If EVERY Pro Does This, You Should Too.
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- www.armorydiscgolf.com Timing the coil in the disc golf throw is critical to effective power transfer (and big distance). If you want to throw the disc farther, you need to have proper timing. Nick gives a very simple structure to ensure that you time your throw like the professionals so that you can THROW like them, too.
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0:00 Intro
0:19 It's all timing, bro
1:19 Timing ERROS
2:59 4 Part Process
6:26 Pro Form Review
10:12 Your Turn - Спорт
FTR I think putting Anthony in Paul's new glasses is hilarious
I return to this video whenever my form is off and it reminds me how bad my timing is. Over time I revert back to turning early and using my hips.
Great video, easy to remember steps. Your sightly inward facing left leg position, hip rotation with shoulders and opening of hips just after brace step before pull through are key for unlocking power when uncoiling!
Thanks- AND getting that foot in that position is so much easier when you're not rotating back too early 👍
I have watched a lot of form vids. This one is GREAT. Thanks.
Appreciate that, hope it helps 👊
Fantastic lesson that I sorely need! Don't know if this was intentional or not, but McBeth = Barela and Buhr = Schusterick in the graphics.
😉
Yeah I went back and paused and was like, wait just a minute now.
Great video. Not over complicating the matter.
Really good analysis. Thank you.
I think one-steps are a good drill for practicing proper coiling and timing. I've been playing around with stopping on the 2nd step of the X-step (while feet are crossed), and then from there, focus on the last step and coil. When I go full-speed is when I don't coil well, so I think it makes sense to practice the last step first, then add in the first step, and then start to do it faster.
I agree. It looks simple in theory, but when that muscle memory kicks in... 😫
Very nice explanation. I just started playing DG this summer and am getting closer to playing on par on softer courses. My aim on drives is improving and this will definitely come in handy as I start trying to add distance. Thank you.
Very welcome 👊 Aim and distance come hand in hand, which is the great and terrible thing about disc golf form haha
Thanks for this new perspective. I can't wait to try this!
👊 I had to slow down much more than anticipated when incorporating it into my game, fair warning. haha
Awesome video, i mainly throw FH but want to learn BH better this winter and im building from the ground up so this helps alot
Building from the ground up is the way to go 👌
I really connect with how you describe this sequence. I'm guilty of being a heavy hip rotator long before my front foot lands, causing accuracy and distance issues. Timing that front foot properly would be a game changer. Thanks for the video!
It's easier said than done, but at least we've got a framework for how to do it!
Just practicing this in my living room I can feel the difference! Can’t wait to take it to the course! Thank you!! 🙏🏽
Hope it translates well to the course!
Very good video. Helpful to know when to look away. That was a big takeaway for me as I want to be consistent hitting lines.
Thanks 👊 Timing that look away sets off dominos for the rest of the throw, it's a big one to get down 👌
I wish I could like this video more than once ... thanks for the content. I keep coming back and watching it.
I'll take the encouraging comment as a "several likes" button haha. Appreciate it 👊
Great video!
Very well explained! For a long time I wasn’t bringing my left shoulder towards the target! But coil is key 🔑😉
World better watch out when you get the fh/bh combo down 😤
I'm a 54 year old "over coiler" who's been combining private lessons with online instruction, trying to get to 500 feet above being a good disc golfer, because I don't have time to compete consistently. Some days I can only throw 385, straight hyzer flip max: 450, anhyzer distance max: 479, 45 mph wind turned a Teebird into a kite: 520 feet. Lately my golf line in attack mode has been about 380-420.
After watching this video, I visualized a faster shoulder turn over the back foot, but a delayed completion of the reachback with the arm that timed up with the lead foot coming down. I rehearsed this while looking at myself side on a mirror. Wow! Then I went to the course and played 9. The result was a comfortable lower back, a much wider rail and an explosion that feels instaneous from the moment it begins into a finish position that is so far beyond what I thought my potential for uncoiling was that it is mind blowing. I threw a hyzer 460 with help from a mild tailwind. I threw a shot that went 375, 5 feet off the ground and hit deadpan and flared 120 feet.
This is so simple. I have time to drift and prepare for the hit and I still have room to uncoil as my weight transfer completes.
Love hearing the feedback, thanks for checking back in and I'm stoked that it's working well for you! Also, "turned a Teebird into a kite" is hilarious haha
@@ArmoryDiscGolf Yeah, when people ask how far I can throw I don't say over 500 feet because that was a freak storm. I do wish I understood how I threw so high with the nose down on that one though. I only really got a full high rip on one. Maybe a topic for another video about how Simon does it??
Thank you. I think this will help a lot. Filmed myself today and was disappointed because my form still looked awful. I think my biggest issue is turning my hips back along with my shoulders. I then am opened up and spinning myself like a top rather than driving through. I will work on that.
Filming yourself is such a good practice though. I've had so many of those experiences of thinking I was going to fix my form and then I look back at it and it looks like nothing's changed haha
One thing you really missed is that the bracing leg is what drives the hips which need to lead the upper body. Just like in golf flexing the knee joint tips the pelvis and when you push back it straigthens it out again. Using your quads to accelerate the core is quite powerful.
Lots of pieces still to discuss, for sure 👍 You're right that the brace is hugely important
Greawt point. Q .What do you mean by this " flexing the knee joint tips the pelvis" I got the plant drives the hip, do you mean straighten the leg?
Just found you and this video.
Thx for the breakdown
You got it! Hope it helps
love how you say Gannon buhr and than show a picture of Will 🤣3:31
I actually felt the tension in the coil this time! I've been studying form for months and didn't realize I was missing this. I can't wait to get out and practice.
good luck combatting ol' muscle memory! Haha implementing new form is often a slow and arduous process
Your color coordination is on point!
look good feel good play good haha
I think I fall into the 3rd category. These are good tips, Nick.
'preicate ya 👊
Wow, didnt understand that you should rotate your both shoulders and noone has ever told me so. Excited to try this. Gonna also record me throwing. Thank you! 🙏
Hope it helps! There's always more to be working on
@@ArmoryDiscGolf 😂, so much longer shots. Of course new things takes time to get used to.
Thank you!
Yessir 👊
@@ArmoryDiscGolf now i know what to work on. This is the best explanation I’ve seen in my two year journey to get better.
Thank you. It's easy in theory haha
Worked on it some today while playing. Today I just tried to focus on feeling the coil between shoulders and hips, successfull a few times 😂. It’s a different feeling than Im used too. On 18 tee I threw one of my longest drives ever. Field work tomorrow!
I'm trying to get it into my own game, too. It's weird because it seems simple but then the muscle memory kicks in... I have to really slow down and focus on keeping my weight back longer, personally
That's exciting to hear it's producing results already, though!
good explanation, comment for the algorithm
Always appreciate a good ol' algorithm comment, thanks 👊
In ball golf, the shaft of the club is pre-loaded on the back swing (similar to a fly rod) like the spring that it is. Then when the wrists pronate, that "spring" is unloaded.
Is this what you are referring to?
I'm not referring to ball golf, I'm referring to the tension that is created between coiling your upper and lower body against one another. Your body wants to "spring" back to a neutral position but we use that forward momentum to accelerate through the rest of the throw
Yes. Well, that's the "pre-loading" effect.
In ball golf, the "spring" is mostly the shaft while in disc golf, it's the body.
I am thinking that like in ball golf, time is required to achieve that preload. Meaning that a fast backswing does not allow that to happen. At least this is what I have experienced. @@ArmoryDiscGolf
Yes, I think that a slow "backswing" (coil) is much more effective. We want to explode from the moment we start rotating, but you're right that there is much to gain by slowing down the first half of the throw
As someone who likes buying discs, having each individual disc having a picture is a must. I do not like buying discs that I haven't even seen how it looks. You got to feel good about the disc that you are throwing imo.
100% 👌 I'm picky about my colors haha
Great video. Now I just have to wait 6 months until the winter is over so I can try all of this.
Come on. You can't let winter stop you! You'll forget how to throw.
HATE the sound of that... give me 100° over freezing ANY day
This is so fucking good, it solved a bunch of my aim issues instantly!
love to hear it 👊
Solid video, cant wait to break 300ft!
thanks 👊 let me know how it goes!
I think that 2nd pic was AB 😅 thanks for the tips though man!
AB in photoshopped Red Shades = PM. lol
Eyes, foot, shoulders, foot. got it. I am going to try it.
Fair warning- I had to slow down much more than anticipated when trying to incorporate this haha
@@ArmoryDiscGolf It makes sense. I need to slow everything down when I practice music to songs as I am learning it.
On a sad note, we have snow in ontario now :( ug
@@sc3639 the concept of not being able to play bc of snow is so foreign to me haha. I've seen pictures of courses that are unplayable for weeks or months at a time because of that, which suuuucks
3:30 - thats not Paul Mcbeth
or Buhr
Well, it was about time. Just kidding, great explanation. It's like finally being handed the keys after so many failed attempts at picking the lock..
That's about how I felt when I finally saw the pattern haha
Your color scheme is my ideal color scheme, and no, I'm not a Fins fan.
We're just men of culture 👊😎 haha
LMAO! PAUL MCBETH!
😂
I’m #2 🤦🏻♂️
Same... old school "pull the lawnmower" advice turned out to be not so great 😫
This should just be pinned on r/Discgolfform. Most people on there reachback / rotate too early.
haha thanks. I also struggle with that (and then going forward too early as a result) but this has been helpful
mcbeth was barella
and Buhr was Schusterick