24V LITHIUM BATTERY SYSTEM IN OFFROAD CARAVAN || Big Solar System | Aircon Off-Grid

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  • Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
  • 0:00 Intro
    2:11 Batteries
    05:34 Inverter
    07:29 Charging Gear
    14:47 Solar
    20:03 Why 24v (with Jason from Offroad Living)
    Huge thanks to Jason Glossop (Managing Director), Andy Day (Auto Electrician/ Mechanic) and all the Offroad Living crew for knocking this build out of the park. We're running;
    - 240ah 24v Allspark Lithium Batteries
    - 3000w 24v Allspark Inverter
    - 1085w Solar (additional 3x 200w and 1x 135w Allspark panels)
    - 16a 24v Victron AC charger
    - 30A 24v Enerdrive DC charger
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 171

  • @squidling4040
    @squidling4040 Рік тому +5

    Well, what a beautiful install.
    Massive kudos to you and installers, As an Auto Electrician myself i appreciate fine workmanship.
    My only comment, with lithium batteries are that not many people are aware of there limitations in cold environments, I live in Tasmania and in winter we get temps below 0 degrees.
    Charging lithium’s below 0 is not recommended, you can discharge but not charge lithium batteries at very cold temperatures.
    Not that this is an issue in WA.
    My only suggestion would be to add a temp sensor and charge cut out when ambient temps are below 3 degrees or so.
    A minor issue but one I think people should at least be aware of.
    Thanks, awesome video.

  • @aaronalbert6450
    @aaronalbert6450 Рік тому

    The quality of that RV looks very nicely built. I don't say that normally. Very clean setup!

  • @darrensmith4661
    @darrensmith4661 Рік тому +1

    as a tech that works on dc systems this vid did cover a lot in great detail. Good information. I especially like the design and application conversations that you added. Most ppl do not understand this. I am curious to see the data you can bring back from your next trip. If you can document loads (current draws, charge rates, device usage etc, it would be great info for a lot of ppl. As unless you go and do it, you never know what is really needed or used, from a practical sense. Doesn't matter if in the Vic high country in winter or in the open plains of inland Australia. thanks for sharing, I look forward to the following vids.

  • @UFO-35
    @UFO-35 Рік тому +1

    I recently had some work done on my 24v truck to tow my caravan and the majority of auto electricians i called had no idea how to wire up 24v systems, i was very surprised. This is definitely a specialised area and this company is what you're looking for 👍

  • @rayromero6891
    @rayromero6891 Рік тому +4

    I have watched a mountain of solar / camper battery set ups here on youtube and I’ve got to say, the way you explained your setup and the benefits of 12v vs 24v really helped me understand and keep things into perspective. Thanks for putting this info out there and sharing. Cheers

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому

      Cheers Ray, appreciate the feedback mate 👍🏼

  • @ChristianJamesK
    @ChristianJamesK Рік тому

    Very informative. Great job explaining the setup and very well explained from Jason. Love the numbers and details!

  • @malcolmhay6668
    @malcolmhay6668 Рік тому +1

    Cam excellent presentation. Lots of informative info, you put a lot of effort into your presentations. Well done....!!!

  • @deanissit
    @deanissit Рік тому +1

    Nice clean setup for off grid .

  • @campingaustralia6698
    @campingaustralia6698 Рік тому +1

    Well done 👏

  • @aphex0540
    @aphex0540 Рік тому +5

    Kudos Cam on a great video and for
    Going the 24V route, as a sparky I’ve never understood why more people don’t !!
    Looking at your demand numbers against your storage and charge ability my guess is you’ll be doubling down on your batteries.
    Killer setup and perfectly explained 💪
    Awesome content, look forward to seeing it all in full flight

  • @coezi
    @coezi Рік тому +1

    Great video as usual Cam, just want to add (Sparky here working in heavy industry) that the main reason you don't see 48V in mobile machinery is safety. You start getting to shock territory around 50V and additionally needing heavier insulation characteristics on everything from cables to circuit breakers. As is mentioned, this is okay in stationary applications like an off grid home where safety can be planned into the design and things don't move and get wet etc. The one mobile applications we see high DC voltages is locomotives (aka haul trains) which are around 70V DC and it's probably the most dangerous part of the loco. I regularly work on 200+ meter marine vessels and even they still run 24V DC systems in the machinery spaces.

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +2

      Cheers mate! Yeah the fellas mentioned that there were a few safety concerns with 48v+
      24v seems to be the sweet spot with what’s commonly available right now 👍🏼

  • @dan32one44
    @dan32one44 8 місяців тому +1

    Clean set up 👏👏

  • @extremeacc101
    @extremeacc101 Рік тому +1

    Well done guys I’m glad you got a system sorted out and you are happy with it.
    Keep us posted on your travels with the set up.

  • @furtherupthetrack7583
    @furtherupthetrack7583 Рік тому

    Thanks for the video Cam & great run through 👍👍👍

  • @evil17
    @evil17 Рік тому

    Great vid, build, explanation & info of how it is all interfaced & works. I built a 24v system into a 40’ bus I have up north nearly 2 yrs ago, 2.5kw PV, 2 x 200A 24v 5kwh lipo4 batteries & a 3kw inverter (Chinese AIO Cheapie) & it does all work well. The most power I have drawn overnight, I left the 2.5kw inverter split AC going and only used 110ah and the batteries were full before lunchtime.
    24v system is definitely advantageous over 12v for a higher power build, & AC’s can use a lot of power, I have a cheapish 2.5kw reverse cycle split household system because the bus is stationary, and it works great, if I shut the room door at night, it will heat or cool the room within 10 minutes & cycle from a max of 1200W-1800W down to 100W-500W, considering an Aircon that uses a newer propane based gas refrigerant like R32 can also help with efficiency & battery power usage & can also heat a space more efficiently than many other methods. TFS. Cheers

  • @robertgrayson3394
    @robertgrayson3394 Рік тому

    Great vid Cam, and fantastically explained in my opinion. I have had Offroad Living on the radar for awhile and now getting them to quote up the upgrade our OffRoad van as well. I will ask them about the 24v system now.

  • @lukehutchinson6754
    @lukehutchinson6754 Рік тому

    Enjoy the trip up north, on a rainy Perth day I am very jealous. Cheers 🍻

  • @snoordman4831
    @snoordman4831 Рік тому +2

    Wow, that was a lot of info there! Very interesting to hear how they/you made the decision to go 24v. Thanks for taking the time to put these videos together. Looking forward to the shake down video. Cheers Cam!

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      My pleasure mate, thanks for the comment 👍🏼

  • @remoteflyboy
    @remoteflyboy Рік тому

    Hi Cam, that is one of the neatest setups I’ve seen in a van. 👍😀

  • @grjh58
    @grjh58 Рік тому

    Great video, really explained a lot re setting up a caravan with a full system and am very envious of the system you have 👍👍. Now to get out and use it and make some memories with your family 👍

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      Cheers mate, pushing up north as we speak with the fam for a few weeks 😊

  • @dougneville9097
    @dougneville9097 Рік тому

    Great vid Cam,well explained and presented.Thanks mate.🥂👍🏾👴🏾

  • @klarastrangis6308
    @klarastrangis6308 Рік тому +1

    Great video Cam. Love the way you explain everything in layman terms. Lots of useful information for us to consider as we're in the process of having a new van built and my husband is tossing up between 24v or 12v

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      Cheers Klara, hope it helped 😊

  • @danielpountney8259
    @danielpountney8259 Рік тому

    Great system and explanation Cam!

  • @rickyclarke8657
    @rickyclarke8657 Рік тому

    Cam Love your video's honesty and realistic .... also introducing new ways of doing things

  • @craiggroves9770
    @craiggroves9770 9 місяців тому

    Great work mate 👍

  • @Froggy543
    @Froggy543 Рік тому

    awesome setup Cam, also very well explained. 🔋

  • @offcampnandy7727
    @offcampnandy7727 Рік тому

    Hey Cam 👍 ,
    Cheers for sharing and allowing the content to be readable 👍👍👍, 24v makes so much sense and is well worth exploring if that demand is suited. Had I'd known that option was available for our needs it probably would have been an option we would have went with 🤔🤔🤔
    Always watching for further content, keep on sharing 👍👍👍
    Cheers Andy

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      Cheers Andy, appreciate the comment mate 👍🏼

  • @peterreeve3030
    @peterreeve3030 Рік тому +2

    Up to your awesome standard of information. Simple for people to understand. When my new van arrives at the end of the month something to consider. Pitty I am on the east coast otherwise it would be straight to off Rd living. Keep up the great work.

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому

      Cheers Peter. All the best with the new van mate, exciting times!

  • @holgermuller2987
    @holgermuller2987 Рік тому

    Hi Cam,
    Nice vid mate and thanks for answering my question.
    All good with your explanations
    Safe trip and happy days
    Cheers HolgerM

  • @malcolmhay6668
    @malcolmhay6668 Рік тому

    Great video Cam. I wish all youtubers could explain things as well as you do. Well done....!!!!

  • @NoFixedDestinationAu
    @NoFixedDestinationAu Рік тому +1

    Thanks for demystifying the pros and cons of 12v vs 24v systems. Can’t wait to see your ‘real world’ review once you have experience with the new system. Great vid too.

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому

      No probs Malcolm, I’ll definitely be giving updates as I go 👍🏼

  • @placestosea
    @placestosea Рік тому

    thanks for posting, good 24v info. glad you covered extra weight added. something youtube videos often miss, when adding a roof of solar panels and batteries. Also weight distribution, and how it 'might' change the 'center of gravity' of the van.

  • @maxmckenzie2560
    @maxmckenzie2560 Рік тому +1

    This old boy might need another coffee - and watch that again 😉🤯

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому

      😂 haha good onya Max 👍🏼 ☕️

  • @garyboekbinder9169
    @garyboekbinder9169 Рік тому

    Good information there, Cam. Look forward to hearing how it all runs once you get away for a period of time

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому

      Cheers mate, heading off now in it for a few weeks off grid. 👍🏼

    • @garyboekbinder9169
      @garyboekbinder9169 Рік тому

      @@WildTouring I'll be interested in your update on that system, we have just bought a new van and was going to go with a 12v system, but seeing what you have, may have a re-think.

  • @BenMitro
    @BenMitro Рік тому

    Good overview Cam. I've gone with a 48V system for much the same reasons.

  • @rjl110919581
    @rjl110919581 Рік тому

    thank you for your detailed video
    24v truck 4x4 is overland
    from Australia

  • @Adsawtell
    @Adsawtell Рік тому

    I8t is suggested the dometic rtx 2000 air-conditioner uses 15amp and as little as 8.33 on low.
    Possibly perfect for anyone wanting to duplicate this power system and using a 24v rtx

  • @zanmanwoody
    @zanmanwoody Рік тому +3

    Thanks for that comprehensive rundown Cam. Nice to see that things have progressed a lot since I installed my 600ah 12v lithium system. There was almost no off the shelf 12 volt systems back then and certainly no 24v suitable equipment or I would likely have gone that way myself.
    I had to design and build my entire system from parts which were available for other uses, yes, including a fully functional BMS. There was no commercial avenue to get it done.
    Our power uses are similar to yours, with air fryers, induction cookers, toasters, microwaves etc, but we do still run a 3 way fridge which isn't quite such an issue in NZ, Don't run an air con either.
    Will be watching with interest how it all works for you, but should be good and you still have options with your multiple solar controllers, I can't understand why more people don't do that, I certainly did.

  • @jeffreygilchrist1330
    @jeffreygilchrist1330 Рік тому +8

    Excellent informative video which didn’t overload the brain ,a very impressive installation of 24v system enjoyed it thoroughly,I’ve owned a 2000 watt 12 volt inverter from them and it’s never let me down in 4 years very good Western Australian company/family doing well, I must say you’re a natural at this video game so proud of your family wish you all the best in the year’s ahead

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому

      Cheers Jeffrey, appreciate the kind words mate! And agree it’s great gear from really good people 😊

  • @stevenicsadventures
    @stevenicsadventures Рік тому

    Awesome info Cam ..May have to make a visit to Offroad 👍🏻

  • @markpalmer5787
    @markpalmer5787 Рік тому

    I love reading through the comments Cam. Different strokes for different folks. Your always going to get the "baggers". But as long as your happy with it, that's all that matters. Looks smick, shame it's hidden away though. It's like bling 🤣🤣. Anyway a great very informative video...
    Cheers Mark...

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      Cheers Mark. Haha nah no comments wasted one me, I learn lots reading through comments from folks- appreciate them all !

  • @johnmathisen1167
    @johnmathisen1167 Рік тому

    Mate I think that you have done a great job on your power set up just hope tiff is happy

  • @anthonymcneil8778
    @anthonymcneil8778 Рік тому

    lots of numbers. Interesting

  • @kuttabull3735
    @kuttabull3735 Рік тому

    24v did not see that coming... new to me that's for sure. And who doesn't like a good Dim Sim with soy sauce on the road ( you need to prove it now when your really really off grid🍜🍜). thanks for sharing and great detailed info very helpful indeed, looking forward to seeing some of your travels all the best. Oh and some good old terra australis dirt and dust on your tires
    .

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому

      My pleasure mate, cheers for the comment 👍🏼 we’re away in the van now putting it all to use!

  • @asweadventureaus4264
    @asweadventureaus4264 Рік тому

    Not gonna lie, thought my brain would explode with all the technical talk, but Darren loves this shit 🤣
    Loving your new van though, looks awesome.

  • @michaelhermans4753
    @michaelhermans4753 Рік тому

    Great build and well explained, in your position I would do the same

  • @jimmycook872
    @jimmycook872 Рік тому +1

    Good job mate.
    🇭🇲😀👍🍻🍻

  • @ADayInTheLifeOfJames
    @ADayInTheLifeOfJames Рік тому +20

    I can’t believe the amount people pay for these vans they come with an AGM battery.. mind blown 🤯

    • @TheLukaszpg
      @TheLukaszpg Рік тому

      Once you are successful in life you can try that too

    • @Mosesk1988
      @Mosesk1988 Рік тому +8

      Probs coz most people leave them parked up for 11months a year haha

    • @ADayInTheLifeOfJames
      @ADayInTheLifeOfJames Рік тому +6

      @@TheLukaszpg checked your channel; it was like your life… nothing going on in it.

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      Pretty crazy hey!

    • @ADayInTheLifeOfJames
      @ADayInTheLifeOfJames Рік тому

      @@WildTouring it is man

  • @grahamwhittaker8844
    @grahamwhittaker8844 Рік тому +1

    All makes sense to me , great clip,well done. I’ll be hanging out for updates and run times 👏👏👏👁👁🙃🐕‍🦺❤️🇦🇺

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      Cheers Graham, I’ll be giving periodic updates in vids as I figure out it’s strengths and limitations 👍🏼

  • @SUPERTRUCKER166
    @SUPERTRUCKER166 Рік тому +6

    Its also worth considering upgrading the cars alternator as well, going to a 150-200a unit, which will comfortably cover both your canopy charger and the van. Safiery and rapid power make a 250a alternator which is almost a drop in replacement (bolt in other then upgrading the wiring to suit the increased current)

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      Yeah it’s definitely something I’ve considered. Probably just make the 130a MUX one work though.

    • @holgermuller2987
      @holgermuller2987 Рік тому

      Yep thought about that too… but watch out, cabling to the rear.. 50A Anderson plug and dcdc booster charger in the van goes for appr. 40amps max charging if necessary, double this for the canopy battery is max 80Amps plus starter batterie charging as priority charge…
      Just my thoughts…
      Cheers

    • @extremeacc101
      @extremeacc101 Рік тому

      @@WildTouring
      Excellent idea. I’ve done this a few times works a treat.

  • @reddustadventures
    @reddustadventures Рік тому

    This should keep you well and truely out of trouble guys. We have allspark gear in our rig and it is faultless Best crew to deal with down at Offroad Living too. Absolute Legends
    Cheers
    Brad &Fi
    @reddustadventures

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      Cheers guys, away in the van now and it’s working so we’ll!!

  • @darrengray5854
    @darrengray5854 Рік тому

    Thanks for the fantastic rundown of your 24V setup. Any chance you could upload a wiring diagram for the complete set up? Looking forward to your next video to see how it's running offgrid.

  • @ichecksmartgauge6552
    @ichecksmartgauge6552 Рік тому +4

    You lost me at 'Gday Cam from Wild Touring' 🤣

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      😂 haha I knew there would be one !
      Good onya Sam 👍🏼

  • @davidmoore7303
    @davidmoore7303 Рік тому

    Cool

  • @bjp107
    @bjp107 Рік тому

    Great vid. Certainly can see your passion. I think you undersell yourself that you aren’t an expert.

  • @VetinaVan
    @VetinaVan Рік тому

    Hey mate, great vid, did you talk to offroad living about networking the mppt chargers? We found multiple charging strings means the chargers fight eachother to establish the correct state of charge. Not a big issue but some efficiency lost from the solar with multiple mppt on same bank. Victron solve this with their 'smart' range i think. Safe travels! 🍻👍

  • @mothergoose3064
    @mothergoose3064 Рік тому

    Great explanation Cam. Did you see the Insta post the other day from Safiery showing how the Victron 48V inverter/Charger was less than half the price of the 12V version, $3080 versus $6577. I've got a 2000w inverter and needed to go to 0 guage cables after the cable supplied with it melted. If I was building it again I'd go 24v.

  • @biglap.australia
    @biglap.australia Рік тому +1

    Nice setup. I’m sure that’s going to sustain you for days on end if you don’t run the AC. One of the lessons I learnt while going around Australia full time is there are a lot of factors influencing your power. Usage, weather and where you’re camped. We had a great spot at 80 mile beach but due to the trees we only got full sun from 11 to 4 and it was hot. The fridge was working. I had to break out the 200w solar blanket to get back up to 100% by 4pm.

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +3

      Yeah you’re not wrong. It all works well until conditions are not favourable! That’s why I’m not so keen on induction cooking, space heating or water heating off batteries.
      AC is just a luxury when conditions permit!

    • @reddyman6915
      @reddyman6915 Рік тому

      @@WildTouring Hi mate .... is your hot system run by gas ? thanks .

    • @biglap.australia
      @biglap.australia Рік тому

      @@WildTouring that’s why I always bring the “American Express”….the generator! “Don’t leave home without!” After getting caught in the wilderness in Tasmania in the pouring rain with two flat AGMs…..never again. @biglap.aus

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      @@reddyman6915 gas and electric

  • @oztravelandfood
    @oztravelandfood Рік тому

    You mentioned the main change over switch would be changing. What would this be to and why

  • @1989cranston
    @1989cranston Рік тому +2

    Hey Cam, you and I were messaging in your last video regarding my battery/solar setup.
    You said you think you would get around 4hr of AC running in good clear conditions. You will get more than that as your Air con once it gets down to temp will start to power cycle and being an inverter Air con it can run at say 50% of max load.
    As I stated in my last comment, with 1.1Kw of solar you should be comfortably getting 7-8hrs run time through the day leaving you still with up to 80% capacity..
    This is all depending on what temps you set the Air con. If it's 35°C outside and you set inside to 16°C, it will never power cycle as it will never get to 16°C inside the van. Where as if you set it to a comfortable 26°C inside, it will get down to that temp and then start to cycle where you will actually recharge your battery.
    Cheers

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому

      Hey Nick, yeah good point mate. I’m heading north in it now for a few weeks. I’ll be off grid the whole time and temps are forecasted to be warm enough to give it all a good run! So I’ll be able to say for sure soon!

    • @1989cranston
      @1989cranston Рік тому

      @@WildTouring Have a good trip mate. love the content!

  • @barrystapleton7172
    @barrystapleton7172 Рік тому

    Hello Cam, was it you that had a webber that the lid folded back underneath when not in use/stored and went into the van hatch easily.
    Cheers, Baz

  • @Jason-zi3wh
    @Jason-zi3wh Рік тому

    I’m curious how the inverter handles the start up load of the aircon (looks to be the same a/c I have and it’s not an inverter unit, so start up current draw around 7kw - only very briefly though).

  • @robertarmbruster5650
    @robertarmbruster5650 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for another great video, I loved it. The 24VDC system seems a good idea to me and you did an excellent job of explaining everything. Can you share the approximate cost of the 24VDC build?

  • @richard4136
    @richard4136 Рік тому

    Hey cam plenty of info from your vid. I’m curious to know how much your compressor fridge actually draws. I ran one of a single 100amp AGM for years with no issues. It was a dometic and it drew max of 6 amps with a constant run of around 2amps. Also what was the ball park figure of your installation? Cheers mate keep the vids coming and safe travels.

  • @lbjezzaberveling3397
    @lbjezzaberveling3397 Рік тому

    Try looking at topargee for the water.
    They go inline I have one in my camper. Might be a solution

  • @marcmiller2939
    @marcmiller2939 Рік тому +1

    Great video Cam!!!! You made it very easy to understand. Can you give us an approximate cost??

  • @bryancavanagh9522
    @bryancavanagh9522 Рік тому

    Hi Cam looking for the stretch that you have for the double stretcher to fit the big stage thanks

  • @kevinreynolds7418
    @kevinreynolds7418 Рік тому

    Pretty sure the smaller solar panel will reduce the wattage of the larger one in series with it. In series you want the panels to put out the same current, in parallel you want the same voltage. But at least with the bigger panel you're making the most of your roof area and reducing the chances of panels being shaded out of action. Going two strings was a good idea but generally parallel connection would be the way to go. Very well spoken and very informative, well done.

    • @paulb2093
      @paulb2093 Рік тому

      Kevin, do you know if the overall charging performance might be affected if just one of the solar panels is substantially shaded when they are wired in series rather than in parallel?

    • @paulb2093
      @paulb2093 Рік тому

      All good, I later heard this question being addressed in the video.

  • @daydog64
    @daydog64 Рік тому

    Thank you for sharing.
    Very good explanation of the 24v system.
    Nice clean looking installation.
    I'm wondering, is there a Smoke ? CO2 ? or Heat detector under the bed?
    That's a lot of amps to be "sleeping" 😉 on top of.

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому

      Cheers mate. No but there is all the right circuit protection - BMS, circuit breakers and fuses!

  • @ZillaYT
    @ZillaYT 2 місяці тому

    I plan to install an incinerator toilet so it’s 24V for me.

  • @joannelaird6627
    @joannelaird6627 Рік тому

    Love the video. Just wondering how much the whole system cost as we are thinking of upgrading also. Keep up the good work.

  • @Jm-bp5zw
    @Jm-bp5zw Рік тому +2

    Great setup😊 but how hard was it to access factory wiring and installation of new wiring, did you have to remove panels or walls

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому

      Cheers mate. Not too bad on the willow actually. All the wiring runs through cabinetry and voids internally! It’s pretty clever!

  • @unproadventures4142
    @unproadventures4142 Рік тому

    Awesome set up 👍
    Thanks for sharing the in’s & outs of the system
    Also best advice was “to your needs” as it’s not a pissing contest like most think
    Cheers 👍

  • @jorobson1
    @jorobson1 7 місяців тому

    After living with your 24v system for a while now is there anything you would change? Is battery capacity sufficient? We are about to upgrade our power system and toying with the 12v v 24 options. The Wangara guys have been very helpful so far.

  • @mudgutsthomas3934
    @mudgutsthomas3934 Рік тому

    Nice one Cam, great set up. I wonder how you would go on a hot day running the aircon in the van while driving?? Nice cool van when you pull up to camp on a hot day? lol

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      😂 hadn’t even thought of that, no reason why I couldn’t!

  • @jakecotter8886
    @jakecotter8886 Рік тому

    Great video as I’ll looking to do the same thing with my caravan and not a lot off people know how to do it so it’s shows me how it can be done just one thing missing just how much is that setup going to cost see a lot off different videos on how to do things but no ever tells you how much it will cost you to do it

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      Cheers Jake. Can’t speak for others, but I know I’m hesitant to talk about cost because I don’t want to give people unrealistic expectations. Every system should be tailored for each persons unique needs/budget- pricing will vary largely for that reason.
      Offroad Living list all their prices for the components used on their website. But to give you a very rough idea my total build was 15k.

  • @aussiejeff7380
    @aussiejeff7380 Рік тому

    Hi Cam, I might have missed it but how are you charging this setup through the car? Same set up from the previous campers/caravans?
    Is it 7 or 12 pin and are you still running an Anderson plug?

  • @markg7555
    @markg7555 Рік тому

    Great Vid mate. My only question is why the batteries are not installed under the seats over the axles? Not sure of your setup as there may have been other limitations that prevented this. Cheers and thx again for you guys posting great information for the everyone trying to get out there and live a great life on the road.

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому

      For weight distribution purposes that would be great. For cable routing purposes it was a lot easier under the bed- which means less labour costs, less copper (cost and weight savings) and less voltage drop (more efficient).

  • @jamieh4x4
    @jamieh4x4 Рік тому

    What ampage 24 to 12v stepdown converter did you go with? Looks like Victron Orion? 24 volt looks like a great solution! I look forward to seeing how much you'll use the Air Conditioner and if you run it at night at all.

  • @grahamhastie896
    @grahamhastie896 Рік тому

    Another great video Cam, very impressive system and impressive installation...Am contemplating upgrade of current 200aH lith system in my van, hadnt considered the 24v option till I seen this vid...Can I ask for a ballpark dollar figure of your system and installation, having already done all the costings several times on a 400aH 12v upgrade?

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Graham. Shoot Offroad Living an email mate with what you’re after. They’ll work out a quote based on your needs 👍🏼

  • @jackturtle131
    @jackturtle131 Рік тому

    Awesome setup Cam. Indeed to much info in a short time for me. May I ask how many ah your fridge is using in 24 Hr. Cheers

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      Cheers Jack! I’ll let ya know in a couple of weeks mate. I’m away in it at the moment, and illl need to test it on the driveway over 24hrs with the solar isolated to know for sure!

  • @polvincompoundsadmin5402
    @polvincompoundsadmin5402 8 місяців тому

    The main thing most dont understand is with 24v the losses ( which can approach 20%) are 1/4 on 24 volt systems, not half as you would think. Resistance losses in the battery, bms, fuses, shunt, cables, and inverter mosfets and inductor are calculated I2R ie losses are proportional to the square of the current, so half the current= 1/4 the losses. No-one knows this.

  • @slowboat6021
    @slowboat6021 Рік тому

    thanks for the run down Cam, did I miss the cost of that system?

  • @j.b.struckinadventures4993
    @j.b.struckinadventures4993 Рік тому

    Gday Cam. What do you expect the life of the batteries to be ? Do you think they will see out the life of the caravan before you want to change it over ? Just curious to know your thoughts. Thanks for another great video 👍🏻

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      They’re tested to 2500-5000+ cycles. I should get the latter end because I’ll rarely discharge them deeply.
      I’d realistically expect 10-15years.
      I have no idea how long I’ll keep the van for, maybe 10 years?
      First set of Allspark batteries I bought are still going strong after 6 years, but that’s absolutely to be expected.

  • @davidklaffer4477
    @davidklaffer4477 Рік тому

    Looks amazing but can you explain why would you sleep above this entire charging system. There is more evidence that the frequency waves are harming you. There must be more places to install it. I have had a look at a number caravans at this years caravan camping show in Brisbane and the number of manufacturers that are moving the inverter system away from under the bed.

  • @davidmccardle4031
    @davidmccardle4031 5 місяців тому

    24v for an inverter makes a lot of sense.
    I might have missed it but how do you wire in and run your 12v appliances on a 24v system, (cig plugs, usb plugs, lights, etc..)?

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  5 місяців тому

      It does!
      Victron 24-12v converter between battery bank and factory fitted 12v fuse box/distribution panel. So all existing 12v gear functions as normal 👍🏼

  • @markb7769
    @markb7769 Рік тому +2

    I just don't understand the need to spend upwards of 10 plus grand to run an aircon for 4 to 6 hrs. I think I will stick with a generator to run my aircon for 6 to 8 hrs and not worry about depleting my battery source. I take 40 litres and that will last me a few weeks in the bush if I need to use my aircon. Will never use 10 plus grand of fuel in 2 of my lifetimes for a generator. I know generator use is not allowed in national parks but majority of campsites are shaded so therefore panels unable to charge the required amount needed to keep batteries at a healthy level if you choose to use your aircon or any other power hungry device.
    Great vid though and very informative and can also vouch for allspark batteries and invertors, great products.

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      Different strokes for different folks Mark!
      Thanks for the comment anyway.

  • @gottabetrippin-wa1283
    @gottabetrippin-wa1283 Рік тому

    Cam when you select inverter power from your change over switch, does your AC charger get isolated from the system, and if so how is that managed?

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому

      Yes, the GPO the AC charger is plugged into is not powered by the inverter. I couldn’t tell you how they do that though mate! No idea!

    • @That_is_for_me_to_know
      @That_is_for_me_to_know Рік тому

      I had the same switch installed by ORL on a 12v system so that it excludes the battery charger and the HWS. The latter needs to run on gas

  • @johnsharman6735
    @johnsharman6735 Рік тому

    So you went in to Off-road Living and asked for a unit that would give you Dim Sims In aircon off grid?? Perfect World!!! 😂😜

  • @compaq1234567891000
    @compaq1234567891000 10 місяців тому

    With a Dcdc charger in the vehicle and in the van plus running all the other gear did you have to upgrade the alternator to take the extra load
    Cheers

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  10 місяців тому

      Would have been nice to, Dmax alternator is only 90a so it’s small in comparison to many tow vehicles. That’s a big part of why I chose enerdrive dcdc chargers, can set the charge current to whatever I want. I found it works for me if I set both at 30a. Can adjust if one battery bank is in need of a faster charge.

    • @compaq1234567891000
      @compaq1234567891000 10 місяців тому

      @@WildTouring yeah that would be handy cheers mate

  • @billramsey800
    @billramsey800 Рік тому

    Hi Cam I do believe that 12volt panels are actually 18v panels is this correct as I'm a bit confused can you clarify this. Great system cheers.

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому

      Depends on the panel Bill. But generally somewhere around 17-20v I think!

    • @holgermuller2987
      @holgermuller2987 Рік тому

      @@WildTouring not really, hv panels go 50V all depends on the panels. Would not use a panel below 28V for 12V system

  • @ianbailey4114
    @ianbailey4114 Рік тому +1

    Price?

  • @bigmatty50
    @bigmatty50 Рік тому +1

    Cam - can we ask how much your system in total cost you?

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      All the pricing for the gear I’ve used is on their website, shoot them an email for a quote to install whatever you need, they’re really helpful! Every build will be different. www.offroadliving.com.au

  • @zip-tv_
    @zip-tv_ Рік тому

    Shade… you can get cheap 12-24v converters at 99% efficiency

  • @johnmathisen1167
    @johnmathisen1167 Рік тому

    Obviously there is something wrong with me because my wet cell storage battery is still going after 5 years, maybe I shouldn’t keep such a close eye on it.

  • @henrydipaolo4517
    @henrydipaolo4517 Рік тому

    Yesss 24v porn! And air fried dim sims to boot! Serious question though Cam, having individual batteries each with their own BMS are you limited in your max current draw to what one BMS is rated at eg 175a or does it double to 350a? I know most battery banks with individual BMS eg. Enerdrive B-Tec, are limited to what one BMS is rated at. Perhaps a question for ORL.

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому

      Gday Henry, effectively it doubles. Because I’ll get the max from each battery. Giving me 350a at 24v, 8400w!

    • @henrydipaolo4517
      @henrydipaolo4517 Рік тому

      @@WildTouring Sweet. Dim sims for everyone 🤣

  • @tim.sorensen5862
    @tim.sorensen5862 Рік тому +1

    What was the system worth??

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому +1

      Shoot them an email or give them a call for a quote to suit your needs/budget.

    • @tim.sorensen5862
      @tim.sorensen5862 Рік тому

      @@WildTouring all good I’m in qld so need to find someone out this way that will do decent work on our van

    • @johnalthuizen3551
      @johnalthuizen3551 Рік тому +1

      Great video Cam. I’ve followed your family travels since the start of your lap series. I think Jason nailed it on the head with starting point being type of fridge and then what appliances you are actually going to use. We have travelled across the GCR 5 times to FNQ and top end NT but have the luxury of choosing the time of year which means we rarely use the AC when camping but do use it in van parks because we spend more time inside. Also we have a 3 way fridge, don’t use the microwave much and don’t have a bunch of camera gear to charge. 18” van with 160W of solar and 200AHr of lead acid, batteries are 7 years old. 350W inverter for laptop charging. We park in the shade and run out a 200W solar blanket on a lead. My genset has 16 hours on it in 7 years. We only take it down south if we are travelling in winter, don’t bother taking it outback or up north. Never had to worry about power. For some, no upgrade is required.

  • @donkee120
    @donkee120 Рік тому

    Would've been better if you put the batteries 300+ back from where they are, in the front of the battery have your mppt/inverter section in a recessed facade. Leaving everthying from the back of the batteries free storage space. :/

    • @WildTouring
      @WildTouring  Рік тому

      Doesn’t worry us mate, we have so many empty cupboards and drawers around the van we’re not short on space 🙂

  • @roteldorel
    @roteldorel Рік тому

    to much trlalalla alooo big like kaw and trlalaala to much:))