Fun Fact: When a group was porting certain games over to android and they started porting Morrowind. Bethesda asked them kindly if they wouldn't port oblivion or Skyrim. No legal action but Bethesda knew it was possible giving the low system requirements and didn't want people to know that you can play AAA titles on a smartphone because if people found out then the console/PC Market would be hit hard since people would demand mobile ports of many games negating the need for a XBOX, Playstation or Dedicated PC
These corpo wars are so corny. Neither corpo loves you. This is like the Playstation vs. Xbox, Marvel vs. DC kids all over again. It's also ironic because iOS actually has PC AAA titles like Resident Evil 8 and other capcom games that run natively on their iPhones.
We need the community to come together and make a spreadsheet of settings,versions, and emulators for PC games. So far i have FNV running at around a choppy 30 on a dif fork of winlator and FTL seems to flawlessly run on any settings iv tried
i recently played fallout nv... If it's nearly unplayable on a stable release version of windows due to glitch and bug. i could't imagine play it on a chinese windows emulator running on linux android phone...
selling pc for s24? i dont have a pc (sold), got myself tab s7, on dex all the time, then get ipad pro (as my main). no pc or mac for quite a while. yes, its quite nice, but too bad, there are alot of limitations, both platforms. so, i still wish i have an ok pc to run some software needed to fully appreciate dex and ipad
Actually VERY crazy that wine works this well on arm's.... i remember when Fallot4 came out and on a R9 380 4gb vram i was struggling to reach 60fps... damn crazy. I see with this a ARM driven market in the close future ...
@@CiaranFordStrongman Yea with a wireless controller, sure, I bet this would work with this but, be warned, you will be using like 80% of your CPU/GPU in your phone, expect your 15 hour battery to last like 45 min to an hour....
@@RZAHMUSIC While just being ARM doesn't make it an instant port, as a lot of work still needs to be done to OS port, I do think yeah, we will start seeing more games being released cross platform due to the similar architecture. This would be pretty cool, considering Nintendo, Apple, Android, and Microsoft now all use similar hardware. In general all of these platforms are in the low to midrange graphic capabilities, with only Apple having discreet GPU level capabilities (3080 equivalent on it's best chips, so not the highest of the high), but those are only their lower selling professional niche machines. Their devices in the hands of masses, the Macbook Airs and iPad Pros have mid range graphics. So games would be built from the ground up to work well on these devices, rather than what happened to the Switch many times, where it got ports of games that were built for much more powerful hardware, and the ports struggled. As of late, gamers have been rejecting the masses of AAA games that all feel similar, and indie games have been exploding. So these two events are timing together nicely. I can see a near future where handhelds that dock, phones and tablets with controllers, laptops, and living room friendly mini PCs are the main platform for games. It would be amazing to have a huge library of quality console style games on iOS and Android. Those purchases and save files would transfer over to your laptop and Apple TV/Android TV. That would be so convenient for consumers, I hope it happens, I only worry about Linux as it is super far off with ARM, especially when it comes to gaming. Their are plenty of Linux distros that run on ARM, but software selection is lite and gaming is non existent. Proton is a nice translation layer for Windows software, but it only handles Windows calls, not architecture calls, so you would still need and emulator on top of that, and the current offerings aren't promising. Basically a you can play a selection of 10 year and older games and almost nothing current. Which is a bummer because SteamOS and its clones are just starting to take off.
Looks like they are already planning for it. Cloud gaming for one, trying to have "stores" on the Apple App store and Google Play, the rumor of having an Xbox version of the Steam Deck to play Xbox games as well as Steam and Epic games, then the grain of salt rumor of them buying Valve (that one I don't believe). I do believe ultimately, they need to have a stripped down version of Windows that is focused on gaming.
As I said in a prior Dex video. We're getting to the point that the Galaxy phones can be a complete and viable alternative for a home PC with their desktop environment. Now we're playing full on PC games direct from them... just wait until they're powerful enough to run microsoft flight sim with actual sim equipment able to be used through a USB hub without being too much for the phone's USB protocol to handle... (not even sure it would be a problem now tbh...)
Would be interesting if someone made phone with a full desktop windows on a external screen and some mobile friendly one on a smartphone screen. Or just android + windows.
@@SirusStarTV windows phone and continuity were a thing; either they ruined it or people (read: tech unsavvy) simply do not have the desire or knowledge of them.
@@tadawakatsu i know, windows mobile had continuum but it's mobile os, its external screen ui have the same usefulness as of samsung dex one. Just imagine not using any windows emulators to play windows games, just straight up booting windows 11. It will reduce any bottlenecks in performance because there would be no emulation.
@@SirusStarTV Actually Continuum when used was full fat Windows 8 not the mobile OS and some manufacturers unlock more features that Microsoft hid. It was kinda how the Surface RT was missing features of windows but a few regedits and settings changes later and now you gpt Full Windows
This is awesome. Recently i got the s24 base model, i want a small phone, and used dex. After testing it i can say that i'm looking to buy a galaxy tab s series to replace my ipad. I think i'll be able to do tons of things with a tablet with dex
Admittedly I've been buying samsung phones for a while now. But, I just got a Galaxy S8 Tablet. For 800 buckaroonees, totally worth it. Samsung products are built to last. Android OS opens up an incredible world of open-source apps and just plain amazing indie projects.
I habe the galaxy Tab s6 light, and it have samsung Dex, i dont Use it, but ive i had a keyboard with touchpad, im Sure i will be Use Dex all Day long, its a realy cool feature😊
This is the reason why I prefer Android phones over iPhone. Not even the stupid M4 iPad can do this and have calculator out-of-box. (edit: lol no need to tell me the calculator, I watched WWDC live, I have been owning an iPad/iPhone/Mac before that lol, some of you talked like only apple haters can scrutinize apple lol)
looking at the hardware it definitely could run stuff like this, it’s just that apple puts so many restrictions on ios to prevent this from being possible
I had the Motorola Atrix and got the dock for it, for the time I was blown away at connecting a keyboard and mouse to it with and external display. It was slow and very laggy but neat. I was super stoked when Dex came out, even though I didn't get to use it til I got the S9, and man let me tell you I felt like a kid in a candy store. I'm thankful Samsung has greatly improved Dex, and now I have a S21. I think my next phone will be the S24 or S25 reburbished
I love the S21 Series to especially the Ultra 5G though about this Winlator as an emulator, I don't know if it will work for I have the Exynos Version of the Ultra but Dex Sure Both Wireless and with docks it is great.
Well part of the problem is actual games don't get promoted by app stores, a free game gets millions of downloads and thus the store puts it on the front page or top 10 and it gets even more attention, that doesn't really happen when you're trying to sell something of quality for $15 or more, it just gets buried at the bottom of the store.
AAA mobile gaming is up its own ass for a while now, Steam Deck and now this is why I've been able to revisit many 2000-2010 titles because I don't have to be forced to play those "games".
Yes, Apple knows that we are far from gaming on a phone. So they are not stupid and sell phones for their real purpose… Tell me, what percent of people with android phones use them as shown (with desktop monitor)? 0,1% or 0,01%?
The issue in oblivion that you faced is natural as Oblivion's pc port didn't have native controller support without mods(like NorthernUI Away), using a M&KB works
This is what nerds like me have been waiting for for YEARS!! Just seeing Oblivion and fall out working on these phones is next level and feels so futuristic! It won't be long now until this is literally mainstream stuff I give it 5 years time at most before we see 120 hertz 1080 p to 2k with these games on A PHONE! Ridiculous that only 2 decades later would phones be considered gaming consoles! Just wow..
The performance is very close to what I used to play on a Core i3 7100 8GB ddr4 2400, with GTX750. It's really impressive that such a portable device can perform like this. For 20 years I've dreamed of one day having a cell phone that could replace my desktop, I don't usually have super powerful RIGs so from my point of view we're very close. I loved my Atrix + Lapdock, unfortunately it became obsolete quickly. I don't know about other countries, but in my country, the S24 Ultra costs almost as much as a dedicated gaming laptop
@@EscapedVillager yup i have used poco f1 when it came with sd845 for under 200$ used it for 4 years then bought poco f5 which is equally good i can bet poco f6 is also a very good deal indeed. shifted to s24ultra a few months back, this is a powerhouse for sure.
brooo this is simply amazing! I was not expecting smartphone technology to catch up so quickly! I remember when I first got my Galaxy Note 4 it was a game changer, now fast forward to today it's irrelevant BUT Imagine in a few years how powerful a Galaxy S30 Ultra will be LOL
Seeing it run that well is impressive. I doubt it does very well in downtown Boston as even my 7700k, 1080ti, 32gb ram pc struggled to hold a playable framerate in that location at max settings with some mods
@@Ehren1337The 1080ti is a fossil in 2024. The RTX 3060 12gb is better than it in everything. Significantly more power efficient, newer features and an extra GB more of vram. Even that is a 1080p GPU.
@@bakapatato272and the game was optimised for iphone. Not same thing compare the real pc version and a downgrade version made for iphone. But maybe with the settings can compare but not same optimised native vs emulated.
I'm so glad I upgraded from the s23 Ultra, I almost didn't but when they said that I would have 7 years of updates It seemed stupid not to. I'm just continually finding proof of how much of a powerhouse this phone is. Thanks so much for this video, it's going to spawn quite the research rabbit hole for me. Cheers!!
With Microsoft getting behind Windows on ARM chips we might see further progress. I hope! This is the dream - carry a small, lightweight phone all day and simply slot it into a tiny dock at work and home. Gaming, music, movies, photos whatever.. everythong works and gaming is fast
I own an Odin 2 Pro and Winlator is a godsend for the games it's compatible with. There's also the added bonus of way better battery life than x86 handhelds. I'm currently playing through Tomb Raider 2013, Doom 2016, BioShock Infinite and Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade (yes, really). On a full charge I'll get 6 hours+ playing these titles. Taki Udon said it best. Were only a few flagship CPUs away from being able to brute-forced our way into most PC titles.
Interesting. Please try again with the Red Magic Pro 9. The active cooling might make a real difference in frames, and I want to see if the software will run older games without crashes. Original Crysis/ Batman/ Original Bioshock/ AC Black Flag / Civilization 5 / Medieval Total War 2 / Privateer 2 / Dune 2 / Supreme Commander Forged Alliance / State Of Decay 2/ Deus Ex (new and old) would all be great examples to test out.
Not only they can, but they surpass it with ease, at least in regards to processing power. Learn to enjoy your things without trying to put down others'.
There's no need to bash apple fans. I genuinely think Samsung phones are better than Apple phones personally, but fanboyism doesn't get anyone anywhere.
This actually is mindblowing for any power user. Root the device, get access to terminal, get a way to install linux app, then u get a powerfull multiplatform gaming device and video editing utilities, code utilities, office, anything! dang this could be my main device!
Bruh this is awesome. Give it 5 years and people won't even need a PC. Just a phone and if it draws enough power and stays cool enough with some sort of cooler it could do anything.
I have a Galaxy S10+ just laying around, since upgrading to an S23 Ultra, and because the S10+ supports Dex, I use that in my bedroom hooked up to my old 32inch TV with a Ugreen USB Hub with HDMI output, and I love using it for streaming my desktop to or TV and watch some shows or news. Gives me a good excuse to keep using my S10+ rather then put it up with my other old phones that will likely never be used again. And yes this Ugreen USB C Hub has Type C passthrough, so I can still charge the phone while using it, plus has 3 USB A ports, one of which is USB 3.2, and have a wireless keyboard with a trackpack (Logitech K400) plugged into it through 2.4ghz receiver.
Best way would be a PS3 emulator with the original GTA V version. It's the best GTA V imo, has only about 16 gig in size and the old UI which I prefer. Very playable on PC through RPCS3.
@@vaultboy1419 I doubt a phone can play a ps3 emulator that's being emulated through a windows emu lol. But yeah, typically GTA games depreciate with every update, even 3, vc, and sa have all been updated on steam and ps4 to remove songs. So lame
@@laminnabam2299 yeah I've considered it because I'm only really interested in playing five m. I uninstalled the steam version a while ago because I learned Rockstar does not hide you ip
Dex subredded a lot of people have been complaining about the s24 not working with dex since when one ui 6.1. doesn't seem to be a universal issue but certainly not an outlier either based on the amount of anecdotes
I just got my S23 to run Darksiders 2 Deathinitive Edition from GOG. I'm about 2 hours in with really the only issue being some slow frame pacing/tearing issues. While it is "playable" with very little other issues, the frame rate itself is in the 30's and 20's (its pretty sporadic from low 30s to low 20s) and you can clearly see parts of the old frames from time to time tearing into the current ones (every 5-10 seconds for about a quarter of a second). I've tried changing V-sync on and off to see if that would help but it hasn't. Changing the settings of the Container in Winlator ends up making it so the game just crashes on launch though. So I'm now wondering if I'm going to be exploring getting further into the game and seeing how my phone and Winlator handle the game in its entirety if I should get the original version of the game pre-remaster to see if it runs either better, or without the frame tearing/frame pacing issue. It could totally just be the emulators current state (I'm on 1.7). The only issue with checking if the version of the game will change or fix anything is that storage space is a bit precious with Samsung removing the SD card slot plus how large these games are themselves. I guess as it all progresses some of my experimentation and attempts at playing games like this may become pointless with it all getting better. But for now just putting it out there that Darksiders seems playable on a weaker phone than shown here, and with the right expectations and a little experimentation you can play some pretty impressive games on handhelds now.
I expected to see 15-20 fps, not 45-60. It's a crazy good showcase of real possibilities of ARM-based devices! I wish, more AAA-games were portedon iOS and Android!
you have to run steam in small mode so it doesnt crash winlator but small mode has been bugged after recent steam update so it may not work properly anymore so you might have to find a mod called steam for exagear.
Hey, thank you for your videos. what did you connect your S24 Ultra to the monitor? looks like an HDMI docking station running via USB Type C. Do you have an Amazon link for me?
I suggest having a gaming PC, download Parsec on the PC and phone, plug the phone into a display and use Dex, then stream your PC to your phone and be able to game over the display with Dex. I travel to visit family once in a while and I can't take my Gaming PC with me, but I can take a portable monitor, my Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra, and a Ugreen USB C hub with an HDMI output (which also has a USB C port for charging the device, and boom, a great gaming system while travelling. Yes it is a stream and with poor wifi it can look somewhat poor, but Parsec has really good input latency, like you can't really tell if there is any input lag at all, and most of the time I forget I am streaming my desktop as there is very little artifacting even when the scene gets real busy with explosions and a camera moving around and all that sort of thing.
Really cool experiment indeed, however I am struggling really hard to see the actual practicality of this: as money obviously can't be the limit when you rock an S24 Ultra, why not grab literally any recent gaming laptop like a G14, or hell even an ROG ally? Wayyy better performance, and since you would want to play with a controller or keyboard and mouse anyway, the portability is similar. Plus since you docked your phone anyway the ally+eGPU combo would destroy any phone EVEN more (although the iGPU is way more than enough for that already). Great video, please keep up the great work!
@@darkzs3126 It's good for a first gen product, but the software side could use so much improvement. CPU is impressive vs Intel/AMD, but still behind Apple. Also it's GPU essentially an overclocked 8g2, way behind the competition. The 8g4 could possibly surpass it.
It's impressive and all that, but i think even if the games were run natively, we can see the true performance gap that still exists between ARM architecture in phones compared to X64. Best of the cpu's in ARM could run Fallout 4 natively at medium settings 60 fps 1080p, that's impressive. But in a pc for the same money you would get triple or quadruple performance in ultra LOL. This puts in shame people saying phones are now as powerfull as pc's and should not buy any pc now lol
It's designed to run windows apps, but a lot of focus is put on graphics. I think flstudio would run but most likely a lot of the audio output plugins etc wouldn't be supported so I don't think it'd be a "proper" experience so to speak.
You'll probably get a "a malicious app was damaging your device" popup. I hope this issue will be resolved in some time, because right now Winlator is useless with One Plus 12.
Imagine a portable touchscreen monitor with a slot for your phone that makes it one seamless device, like a Steam Deck but for work and gaming! Paired with Samsung DeX, your phone could instantly turn into a desktop, tablet, or even a gaming setup, all in one. No need for a bunch of different gadgets-just dock your phone and you're good to go!
I have the S24 Plus. got it for $700 after a $300 trade in. Worth every Penny. I've tried Google Pixel. But Samsung always takes the crown, from UI, to beautiful design, to features like Samsung DeX
Thank for your informative video! Do you think winlator could run via dex smoothly on Bluetooth, or would input lag always be an issue? I streamed a Gamecube game on to a monitor without using any cables and there was a lot of input lag.
its insane how far technology has come...i bet you in 10 years, we wont even need pc's anymore, and will just be able to wirelessly use our phones to play full pc games (at high graphics and 120fps) on our home monitors
At 30 FPS it should then run Fallout 4 at 720p mid settings which is quite crazy. Looking forward to see how games run on SD Elite X with W11. Performance seems equal to the M4. So it will be all about the new and improved TLS which is supposedly up to 3x better than on a SQ2.
Do it, Bethesda, you know you want to. Don't resist the urge to release Skyrim again on another platform.
Don't encourage them
SIXTEEN TIMES THE PLATFROMS!!!
Fun Fact: When a group was porting certain games over to android and they started porting Morrowind. Bethesda asked them kindly if they wouldn't port oblivion or Skyrim.
No legal action but Bethesda knew it was possible giving the low system requirements and didn't want people to know that you can play AAA titles on a smartphone because if people found out then the console/PC Market would be hit hard since people would demand mobile ports of many games negating the need for a XBOX, Playstation or Dedicated PC
I hate how I laughed hard at this comment....BRAVO!
sure thing, lets have some microtransactions too because mobile🤮
2024 android: playing pc games using emulators.
2024 Ios: you can now place icons where you want it on the screen
ummm, did u know about ac mirage?
These corpo wars are so corny. Neither corpo loves you. This is like the Playstation vs. Xbox, Marvel vs. DC kids all over again.
It's also ironic because iOS actually has PC AAA titles like Resident Evil 8 and other capcom games that run natively on their iPhones.
@@loadsheddingzim It's obvious why I'm here. Because I watched the video.
No amount of laughing emojis will hide how sad you are.
@@loadsheddingzim it’s not just one console game 😂
Yo ios can run console games
Can android do that without emulation?😂
Also yes ios too can run emulators
We need the community to come together and make a spreadsheet of settings,versions, and emulators for PC games. So far i have FNV running at around a choppy 30 on a dif fork of winlator and FTL seems to flawlessly run on any settings iv tried
Serg Pavlov already done this
@@kevj.3575 where can i find it ?
It exists, nobody cares
Try Horizon emulator
i recently played fallout nv... If it's nearly unplayable on a stable release version of windows due to glitch and bug. i could't imagine play it on a chinese windows emulator running on linux android phone...
Next up... "I sold my gaming PC for a Galaxy S24."
For some people its all they need.
@@SuperM00b You'd want a device with passthrough charging though
selling pc for s24? i dont have a pc (sold), got myself tab s7, on dex all the time, then get ipad pro (as my main). no pc or mac for quite a while. yes, its quite nice, but too bad, there are alot of limitations, both platforms. so, i still wish i have an ok pc to run some software needed to fully appreciate dex and ipad
Bad move
Gotta love how there are only affiliate links in the description but no link to the actual Winlator 🤡
This is the dream. Everything on a phone.
Everything on one device would be amazing!
Dream, or nightmare ?
@@enricojeremias5425 nightmare
Yes dream come true
microsoft's dream with windows phone (sadly there fail back then lol)
Actually VERY crazy that wine works this well on arm's.... i remember when Fallot4 came out and on a R9 380 4gb vram i was struggling to reach 60fps... damn crazy. I see with this a ARM driven market in the close future ...
It is running at 720p low
@@oo--7714 remember that's it's emulating and not running natively so it's not optimized
Its running faster than my 11th gen i5 laptop which is nuts once you think about it
You got something wrong with your system. R9 380 should be able to run FO4 at 1080p 60fps with no problem maybe except in downtown Boston
@@abhimaanmayadam5713 Yeah ... Intel really dropped the ball ...
This is getting closer and closer to what I consider the end game. No laptop, no desktop, just a phone that you pop in a dock.
@@5555S5 and it's only in your generation.
The next generation devices we can only imagine
720p low 30 fps LOL!
Even dockless would be more end game
@@cesaru3619mfw technology advances as more progress is made over time 😮😮😮😮
@@CiaranFordStrongman Yea with a wireless controller, sure, I bet this would work with this but, be warned, you will be using like 80% of your CPU/GPU in your phone, expect your 15 hour battery to last like 45 min to an hour....
Microsoft has got to be getting scared. Winlator, Proton, Game Porting Toolkit. There are so many ways popping up to escape their awful OS.
Proton especially came a long way and got really good
With the transition to ARM chips, windows games gonna be built for arm. So we're going to get bunch more games for our phones!
@@RZAHMUSIC While just being ARM doesn't make it an instant port, as a lot of work still needs to be done to OS port, I do think yeah, we will start seeing more games being released cross platform due to the similar architecture.
This would be pretty cool, considering Nintendo, Apple, Android, and Microsoft now all use similar hardware. In general all of these platforms are in the low to midrange graphic capabilities, with only Apple having discreet GPU level capabilities (3080 equivalent on it's best chips, so not the highest of the high), but those are only their lower selling professional niche machines. Their devices in the hands of masses, the Macbook Airs and iPad Pros have mid range graphics. So games would be built from the ground up to work well on these devices, rather than what happened to the Switch many times, where it got ports of games that were built for much more powerful hardware, and the ports struggled.
As of late, gamers have been rejecting the masses of AAA games that all feel similar, and indie games have been exploding. So these two events are timing together nicely.
I can see a near future where handhelds that dock, phones and tablets with controllers, laptops, and living room friendly mini PCs are the main platform for games.
It would be amazing to have a huge library of quality console style games on iOS and Android. Those purchases and save files would transfer over to your laptop and Apple TV/Android TV. That would be so convenient for consumers, I hope it happens,
I only worry about Linux as it is super far off with ARM, especially when it comes to gaming. Their are plenty of Linux distros that run on ARM, but software selection is lite and gaming is non existent. Proton is a nice translation layer for Windows software, but it only handles Windows calls, not architecture calls, so you would still need and emulator on top of that, and the current offerings aren't promising. Basically a you can play a selection of 10 year and older games and almost nothing current. Which is a bummer because SteamOS and its clones are just starting to take off.
Even Chromebooks are getting Steam support with Borealis, it's insane
Looks like they are already planning for it. Cloud gaming for one, trying to have "stores" on the Apple App store and Google Play, the rumor of having an Xbox version of the Steam Deck to play Xbox games as well as Steam and Epic games, then the grain of salt rumor of them buying Valve (that one I don't believe). I do believe ultimately, they need to have a stripped down version of Windows that is focused on gaming.
As I said in a prior Dex video. We're getting to the point that the Galaxy phones can be a complete and viable alternative for a home PC with their desktop environment. Now we're playing full on PC games direct from them... just wait until they're powerful enough to run microsoft flight sim with actual sim equipment able to be used through a USB hub without being too much for the phone's USB protocol to handle... (not even sure it would be a problem now tbh...)
Would be interesting if someone made phone with a full desktop windows on a external screen and some mobile friendly one on a smartphone screen. Or just android + windows.
@@SirusStarTV windows phone and continuity were a thing; either they ruined it or people (read: tech unsavvy) simply do not have the desire or knowledge of them.
@@tadawakatsu i know, windows mobile had continuum but it's mobile os, its external screen ui have the same usefulness as of samsung dex one. Just imagine not using any windows emulators to play windows games, just straight up booting windows 11. It will reduce any bottlenecks in performance because there would be no emulation.
Definitely I think mobile games are better than some pc games nowadays
@@SirusStarTV Actually Continuum when used was full fat Windows 8 not the mobile OS and some manufacturers unlock more features that Microsoft hid.
It was kinda how the Surface RT was missing features of windows but a few regedits and settings changes later and now you gpt Full Windows
This is awesome. Recently i got the s24 base model, i want a small phone, and used dex. After testing it i can say that i'm looking to buy a galaxy tab s series to replace my ipad. I think i'll be able to do tons of things with a tablet with dex
You can do the same thing in iPad
Like Dex but only for iPad
@@EyadAlsayd-is2vj iPad lacks a lot in functionality compared to dex mode. It's just a cut down version of mac
Bro I have a s21Ultra and a tab s9 and I can say that both work so good together
Admittedly I've been buying samsung phones for a while now. But, I just got a Galaxy S8 Tablet. For 800 buckaroonees, totally worth it. Samsung products are built to last. Android OS opens up an incredible world of open-source apps and just plain amazing indie projects.
I habe the galaxy Tab s6 light, and it have samsung Dex, i dont Use it, but ive i had a keyboard with touchpad, im Sure i will be Use Dex all Day long, its a realy cool feature😊
This is the reason why I prefer Android phones over iPhone. Not even the stupid M4 iPad can do this and have calculator out-of-box. (edit: lol no need to tell me the calculator, I watched WWDC live, I have been owning an iPad/iPhone/Mac before that lol, some of you talked like only apple haters can scrutinize apple lol)
Apples makes supercars that have a 60mph speed limiter
@@TVCHLORDApple implements such power which is harmful for the phone to even use 😂
They can but not willing to coz they rather maintain the luxury feels of their brand than actually innovating new things.
It absolutely can
iPhone 15 can play resident evil 4 remake and 8
And M4 already superior
So yes
looking at the hardware it definitely could run stuff like this, it’s just that apple puts so many restrictions on ios to prevent this from being possible
I had the Motorola Atrix and got the dock for it, for the time I was blown away at connecting a keyboard and mouse to it with and external display. It was slow and very laggy but neat. I was super stoked when Dex came out, even though I didn't get to use it til I got the S9, and man let me tell you I felt like a kid in a candy store. I'm thankful Samsung has greatly improved Dex, and now I have a S21. I think my next phone will be the S24 or S25 reburbished
i had an atrix with the dock, it was awesome and yeah very laggy
I love the S21 Series to especially the Ultra 5G though about this Winlator as an emulator, I don't know if it will work for I have the Exynos Version of the Ultra but Dex Sure Both Wireless and with docks it is great.
Samsung Dex is one of my favorite. It's so underrated
Should be default on every android device imo
@@bootchoo96 If it is I wouldn't buy a samsung
@@bootchoo96 This is the online reason I have this phone
I've used it a handful of times, it's really nice.....
having reached this level with mobile chips developers should care more about releasing games for android, there's too little choice
They tried no one buys it.
Yeah for over a decade its been established at mobile games are either free or only a couple bucks.
I really think they need a totally seperate store.
Well part of the problem is actual games don't get promoted by app stores, a free game gets millions of downloads and thus the store puts it on the front page or top 10 and it gets even more attention, that doesn't really happen when you're trying to sell something of quality for $15 or more, it just gets buried at the bottom of the store.
the problem is piracy and no one buys mobile games (but they want to pay thousands for stupid skins in stupid games)
AAA mobile gaming is up its own ass for a while now, Steam Deck and now this is why I've been able to revisit many 2000-2010 titles because I don't have to be forced to play those "games".
We see Android phones moving towards being computers, while Apple remains stuck to the idea that the phone answers calls and text messages.
Apple is moving towards Android 💀
What are you smoking? Apple beat Android to AAA gaming lol
@@re4796 actually it's not iphone chip is only good on CPU snapdragon chip is the best chip released on 2024
@@malindurajapaksha1791 ???
Yes, Apple knows that we are far from gaming on a phone. So they are not stupid and sell phones for their real purpose… Tell me, what percent of people with android phones use them as shown (with desktop monitor)? 0,1% or 0,01%?
we got fallout 4 on a phone before gta VI
The issue in oblivion that you faced is natural as Oblivion's pc port didn't have native controller support without mods(like NorthernUI Away), using a M&KB works
With that new arm cpu news 2 days ago… im excited for the future of AAA games on phones.
@@HablaConOwens wonder why devs wont port AAA open world games to mobile, phones now have massive storage tho
@@tteokl they do. There's a good amount of GTA games and COD ports.
@@VegitoBlackityBlackgood amount of gta games??
@@anti-lgbt0743 Grand theft Auto
@@tteokl aunque ya se podria, solo falta optimizar los juegos y los emuladores
So sick. What a time to be alive
Crazy, u have the best videos ever
This is what nerds like me have been waiting for for YEARS!! Just seeing Oblivion and fall out working on these phones is next level and feels so futuristic! It won't be long now until this is literally mainstream stuff I give it 5 years time at most before we see 120 hertz 1080 p to 2k with these games on A PHONE! Ridiculous that only 2 decades later would phones be considered gaming consoles! Just wow..
The performance is very close to what I used to play on a Core i3 7100 8GB ddr4 2400, with GTX750. It's really impressive that such a portable device can perform like this.
For 20 years I've dreamed of one day having a cell phone that could replace my desktop, I don't usually have super powerful RIGs so from my point of view we're very close. I loved my Atrix + Lapdock, unfortunately it became obsolete quickly.
I don't know about other countries, but in my country, the S24 Ultra costs almost as much as a dedicated gaming laptop
here in Brazil it costs more than a 3060 gaming laptop, but having the option to play with the phone is always good
720p low 30fps LOL!
@@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao theres a phone called poco f6 has
512/12 and snapdragon 8s gen 3 and its 300-400$ so its a good deal for its price !!
@@EscapedVillager yup i have used poco f1 when it came with sd845 for under 200$ used it for 4 years then bought poco f5 which is equally good i can bet poco f6 is also a very good deal indeed. shifted to s24ultra a few months back, this is a powerhouse for sure.
Fun fact: 8 gen 3 is equal to i5-10400 in cpu performance and 1050ti laptop in gpu💀
Nice. More winlator vids plz
brooo this is simply amazing! I was not expecting smartphone technology to catch up so quickly!
I remember when I first got my Galaxy Note 4 it was a game changer, now fast forward to today it's irrelevant BUT Imagine in a few years how powerful a Galaxy S30 Ultra will be LOL
Thank you for making this, I keep looking for news about winlator
Seeing it run that well is impressive. I doubt it does very well in downtown Boston as even my 7700k, 1080ti, 32gb ram pc struggled to hold a playable framerate in that location at max settings with some mods
true
Yeah but 1080ti is perfect for 1080 and 1440p. 4K is useless and resource hog. This runs on 720p low settings.
lmao 1080TI + 7700K would absolutely destroy this performance
@@Ehren1337The 1080ti is a fossil in 2024. The RTX 3060 12gb is better than it in everything. Significantly more power efficient, newer features and an extra GB more of vram. Even that is a 1080p GPU.
were iiving in the future dude... hopefully we can enjoy all that before WW3 :D
You should try Resident Evil 4 and Death Stranding to see how it compares to the new iPhones that run those. Super interesting vid ngl
In tests I saw android phones with a new flagship chipset runs better in residenti evil 4 than iphone
@@gn1l262 Lmao Iphone currently plays RE4 at 720p mid settings and it completely demolishes the s24 ultra. It is providing a constant 45-60 fps
@@bakapatato272 it does not. The iPhone gets to a max of 30fps in those settings you mentioned.
@@LaidBackDeveloper ever tried using metal fx?
@@bakapatato272and the game was optimised for iphone. Not same thing compare the real pc version and a downgrade version made for iphone. But maybe with the settings can compare but not same optimised native vs emulated.
Holy! Can't wait to try this on my S24 Ultra
So how did it go? Please update us!
Or redmagic 9pro
I'm so glad I upgraded from the s23 Ultra, I almost didn't but when they said that I would have 7 years of updates It seemed stupid not to. I'm just continually finding proof of how much of a powerhouse this phone is. Thanks so much for this video, it's going to spawn quite the research rabbit hole for me. Cheers!!
With Microsoft getting behind Windows on ARM chips we might see further progress. I hope!
This is the dream - carry a small, lightweight phone all day and simply slot it into a tiny dock at work and home. Gaming, music, movies, photos whatever.. everythong works and gaming is fast
I own an Odin 2 Pro and Winlator is a godsend for the games it's compatible with. There's also the added bonus of way better battery life than x86 handhelds.
I'm currently playing through Tomb Raider 2013, Doom 2016, BioShock Infinite and Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade (yes, really). On a full charge I'll get 6 hours+ playing these titles.
Taki Udon said it best. Were only a few flagship CPUs away from being able to brute-forced our way into most PC titles.
Interesting. Please try again with the Red Magic Pro 9. The active cooling might make a real difference in frames, and I want to see if the software will run older games without crashes. Original Crysis/ Batman/ Original Bioshock/ AC Black Flag / Civilization 5 / Medieval Total War 2 / Privateer 2 / Dune 2 / Supreme Commander Forged Alliance / State Of Decay 2/ Deus Ex (new and old) would all be great examples to test out.
For medieval 2 there alreadt feral interactive who as ported natively the game.
Crazy to see ARM at ps4 level almost nearly there 😮
even some native android games like wreckfest looks almost like ps4 game if you max out the graphic settings
Fallout 4 barely maintains 30 fps on PS4!
Snapdragon is already surpassing PS4 at least at CPU power!
@parazels83 exactly, there's absolutely no reason sony cannot make a ps4 portable Rn.
Phones have long had more power than a PS4, but companies are not so interested in it.

720p low 30fps LOL! more like PS3
You should try running Crysis!
Its amazing what you can do with an S24 ultra. It never ceases to surprise me
Now what can the apple fans say? Not even their ipad pros can compare
Not only they can, but they surpass it with ease, at least in regards to processing power.
Learn to enjoy your things without trying to put down others'.
Can we do that with the Samsung tablet s series ???
🍿🍿🍿
iPad pro can run resident evil village with ray tracing. That's more demanding game than almost 10 years old fallout 4 running at low 720p 😂
There's no need to bash apple fans. I genuinely think Samsung phones are better than Apple phones personally, but fanboyism doesn't get anyone anywhere.
This actually is mindblowing for any power user. Root the device, get access to terminal, get a way to install linux app, then u get a powerfull multiplatform gaming device and video editing utilities, code utilities, office, anything! dang this could be my main device!
I am really like your Samsung dex videos😊
Bruh this is awesome. Give it 5 years and people won't even need a PC. Just a phone and if it draws enough power and stays cool enough with some sort of cooler it could do anything.
Hello ETA. Do you have a link for that cool phone docking station?
I have a Galaxy S10+ just laying around, since upgrading to an S23 Ultra, and because the S10+ supports Dex, I use that in my bedroom hooked up to my old 32inch TV with a Ugreen USB Hub with HDMI output, and I love using it for streaming my desktop to or TV and watch some shows or news. Gives me a good excuse to keep using my S10+ rather then put it up with my other old phones that will likely never be used again. And yes this Ugreen USB C Hub has Type C passthrough, so I can still charge the phone while using it, plus has 3 USB A ports, one of which is USB 3.2, and have a wireless keyboard with a trackpack (Logitech K400) plugged into it through 2.4ghz receiver.
in regards to GTA V, wouldnt you also need the Rockstar launcher to work? Wouldnt it just be easier to look for a repack of it?
Yeah but he isn't going to talk about that in a UA-cam video. Solid way to have Rockstar just take the video down and cause a headache
Best way would be a PS3 emulator with the original GTA V version. It's the best GTA V imo, has only about 16 gig in size and the old UI which I prefer. Very playable on PC through RPCS3.
yep, GTAV cracked repacks work. Speaking from experience.😌
@@vaultboy1419 I doubt a phone can play a ps3 emulator that's being emulated through a windows emu lol. But yeah, typically GTA games depreciate with every update, even 3, vc, and sa have all been updated on steam and ps4 to remove songs. So lame
@@laminnabam2299 yeah I've considered it because I'm only really interested in playing five m. I uninstalled the steam version a while ago because I learned Rockstar does not hide you ip
that's pretty cool, I can see this being a viable future in like a decade
Dex subredded a lot of people have been complaining about the s24 not working with dex since when one ui 6.1. doesn't seem to be a universal issue but certainly not an outlier either based on the amount of anecdotes
Holy Sh** Real Mobile gaming, great video.
Please do an installation guide for the S24 Ultra. It's cool seeing you play and all, but I haven't been able to find a working version anywhere.
I just got my S23 to run Darksiders 2 Deathinitive Edition from GOG. I'm about 2 hours in with really the only issue being some slow frame pacing/tearing issues. While it is "playable" with very little other issues, the frame rate itself is in the 30's and 20's (its pretty sporadic from low 30s to low 20s) and you can clearly see parts of the old frames from time to time tearing into the current ones (every 5-10 seconds for about a quarter of a second). I've tried changing V-sync on and off to see if that would help but it hasn't. Changing the settings of the Container in Winlator ends up making it so the game just crashes on launch though. So I'm now wondering if I'm going to be exploring getting further into the game and seeing how my phone and Winlator handle the game in its entirety if I should get the original version of the game pre-remaster to see if it runs either better, or without the frame tearing/frame pacing issue. It could totally just be the emulators current state (I'm on 1.7). The only issue with checking if the version of the game will change or fix anything is that storage space is a bit precious with Samsung removing the SD card slot plus how large these games are themselves. I guess as it all progresses some of my experimentation and attempts at playing games like this may become pointless with it all getting better. But for now just putting it out there that Darksiders seems playable on a weaker phone than shown here, and with the right expectations and a little experimentation you can play some pretty impressive games on handhelds now.
what brand of monitor is that? It looks so clean with that background? I have just been sold
This is the power of modifying, sharing and studying free software :) 🤩
No matter which settings I try, the Container crashes instantly on Startup on my S24 Ultra :(
Can you help?
Thanks for this! Had no idea this was out and available
5:33 wow the SD 8 gen 3 is performing better than my i5 6200u and the phone is running 720p compared to my 640x480 WTF
yes the i5 6200u is very outdated
@@yourname7254 you're using an underpowered version of a mid range cpu from a decade ago ofc that's gonna happen
Hey bro super sick video.
Quick lil tip you can lock your focus by setting it to manual to avoid focus breathing. 💯
Skyrim non special edition and special edition test would be awesome
I expected to see 15-20 fps, not 45-60.
It's a crazy good showcase of real possibilities of ARM-based devices!
I wish, more AAA-games were portedon iOS and Android!
you have to run steam in small mode so it doesnt crash winlator but small mode has been bugged after recent steam update so it may not work properly anymore so you might have to find a mod called steam for exagear.
Hey, thank you for your videos. what did you connect your S24 Ultra to the monitor? looks like an HDMI docking station running via USB Type C. Do you have an Amazon link for me?
Would love to see an eGPU being run on this one day!
Hopefully they'll put thunderbolt 4 on their phone soon
At that point get a PC.
@@ZackSNetwork PC is just better
I suggest having a gaming PC, download Parsec on the PC and phone, plug the phone into a display and use Dex, then stream your PC to your phone and be able to game over the display with Dex. I travel to visit family once in a while and I can't take my Gaming PC with me, but I can take a portable monitor, my Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra, and a Ugreen USB C hub with an HDMI output (which also has a USB C port for charging the device, and boom, a great gaming system while travelling. Yes it is a stream and with poor wifi it can look somewhat poor, but Parsec has really good input latency, like you can't really tell if there is any input lag at all, and most of the time I forget I am streaming my desktop as there is very little artifacting even when the scene gets real busy with explosions and a camera moving around and all that sort of thing.
There is no reason for developers not to bring these games natively to Android with Arm support.
Really cool experiment indeed, however I am struggling really hard to see the actual practicality of this: as money obviously can't be the limit when you rock an S24 Ultra, why not grab literally any recent gaming laptop like a G14, or hell even an ROG ally? Wayyy better performance, and since you would want to play with a controller or keyboard and mouse anyway, the portability is similar. Plus since you docked your phone anyway the ally+eGPU combo would destroy any phone EVEN more (although the iGPU is way more than enough for that already). Great video, please keep up the great work!
Where did you find the special version of winlator?
Its on github
The 8 Gen 4 later this year & X Elite Gen 2 next year are gonna be really impressive
What's about the X elite gen 1?
@@darkzs3126 It's good for a first gen product, but the software side could use so much improvement. CPU is impressive vs Intel/AMD, but still behind Apple. Also it's GPU essentially an overclocked 8g2, way behind the competition. The 8g4 could possibly surpass it.
@@vincelongman3264 the 8gen4 is just making over hype
Qualcomm will disappoint us again
What modded version of Winlator are you using though? Where do we get it?
Awesome video dude, new sub from me lol will be keeping an eye on this. 🤜🤛
what is the dock your using?
It's impressive and all that, but i think even if the games were run natively, we can see the true performance gap that still exists between ARM architecture in phones compared to X64. Best of the cpu's in ARM could run Fallout 4 natively at medium settings 60 fps 1080p, that's impressive. But in a pc for the same money you would get triple or quadruple performance in ultra LOL.
This puts in shame people saying phones are now as powerfull as pc's and should not buy any pc now lol
How did you manage to run Winlator on S24 Ultra? Mine just won't run, no matter what.
Who would have thought..... Respect ETA
Is it just games or could you run windows apps? It would be cool to run the full version of flstudio or ableton live on my s24 ultra
It's designed to run windows apps, but a lot of focus is put on graphics. I think flstudio would run but most likely a lot of the audio output plugins etc wouldn't be supported so I don't think it'd be a "proper" experience so to speak.
how are you liking the keychron keyboard 6 months later? have you swapped any switches or keycaps? love the channel. thx again.
Can you try Mobox next? I have seen people run GTA 5 with that emulator 😂
Nice I'll try this with my oneplus 12, same specs as the s24 ultra. Never even heard of winulator but gotta try it
Remember though samsung uses an overclocked version of the 8 gen 3
You'll probably get a "a malicious app was damaging your device" popup. I hope this issue will be resolved in some time, because right now Winlator is useless with One Plus 12.
@@kemisenpai9701not really, the new redmagic 9pro s uses the real overclocked version of the snapdragon 8gen3 and its more powerful than the s24
@@TobyMcguarro Yeah but that dosent change the fact its overclocked even though slightly
Where can you find the modified Winlator version?
did you ever figure this out?
@frank7131989 Winlator Afei mod works ok on S24 Ultra. Got Fallout 3, Yakuza 0 and Way of the Samurai 3 running at decent speeds.
@@frank7131989 Winlator Afei mod version worked for me.
Hey, ETA, cool videos you got here.
Can you test by any chance the Death Stranding on your s24 ultra setup see if runs?
I think waiting for cassia will just be better, but this is allready really cool
Would be cool to emulate steam
Cassia project was officially discontinued a while ago.
@@SuperZabojca we know bro
@@SuperZabojca yes i know i was in the discord now im depressed i have exynos too
this is just insane! i thought we would see something like this 10+ years from now 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
How long until we can use a full Steam client on Android with an emulation layer, start games on pc and continue them on phone via with cloud save
most impressive about fallout 4 on a phone is how good those frametimes are. looks buttery smooth
It's funny people even try to compare iphones with samsungs
Imagine a portable touchscreen monitor with a slot for your phone that makes it one seamless device, like a Steam Deck but for work and gaming! Paired with Samsung DeX, your phone could instantly turn into a desktop, tablet, or even a gaming setup, all in one. No need for a bunch of different gadgets-just dock your phone and you're good to go!
I have the S24 Plus. got it for $700 after a $300 trade in. Worth every Penny. I've tried Google Pixel. But Samsung always takes the crown, from UI, to beautiful design, to features like Samsung DeX
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I'm subscribed. You're a legend! Does this mean these PC games could run native on the phone?
Where are apple fanboys
@@pplo7 They will be here saying iphone does it better 20 years later. Just you wait.
I installed winlator 6.1 on my galaxy s24 ultra, but the container won't open
you use the android emulator on the PC and then use the PC emulator inside the android emulator 😂
That's just a monitor with a keyboard, mouse, and HDMI support.
What an aweome wallpaper! mind sharing? Thanks for the video!
It's part of Winlator
The auto-focus in this video is extremely jarring.
He didn't record this with the Galaxy s24 Ultra.
Everyday we are getting closer and closer to having a literal super computer in our pockets
Next up: 4090 vs S24 Ultra
Or next up I connected a 4090 to my samsung phone.
Don't just joke. We're not very behind.
Hi. Great video. Question. Can you run racing simulators like assetto corsa on this setup? If not, any suggestions?
Gotta love how there are only affiliate links in the description but no link to the actual Winlator 🤡
Ohh an old game still good for now? Undertale has such satisfying ost and relaxing at the same time
Still bad news for exynos 2400 user
hey, so it's impossible to use winlator or basically any emulator on my s24 with exynos 2400 right?
@@KungFuPadla1 yeagh
Thank for your informative video! Do you think winlator could run via dex smoothly on Bluetooth, or would input lag always be an issue? I streamed a Gamecube game on to a monitor without using any cables and there was a lot of input lag.
its insane how far technology has come...i bet you in 10 years, we wont even need pc's anymore, and will just be able to wirelessly use our phones to play full pc games (at high graphics and 120fps) on our home monitors
Even with the minor limitations he has mentioned this is still revolutionary im in shock that phone can run the games at all 🤘
At 30 FPS it should then run Fallout 4 at 720p mid settings which is quite crazy. Looking forward to see how games run on SD Elite X with W11. Performance seems equal to the M4. So it will be all about the new and improved TLS which is supposedly up to 3x better than on a SQ2.
I dream of a day where i can connect my phone to an EGPU and just game, the all in one machine dream