K&N filter for Royal Enfield Himalayan review and test!
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Correctly identified. I come from motorsport with 30 years of experience. Changing a component does almost nothing. An adapted exhaust that can breathe freely, larger fuel injection and an air filter with a larger flow volume lead to a good result. Don't be fooled into thinking that just because the engine sounds a little different you have more power!
greetings from Germany
Very correct conclusion you have arrived at.
Stock vs K&N
Both work the same way in all respect.
When you pay five times the cost the performance level raises in your mind!
And on the first throttle we feel. Ah...ha so good. So much freely the air is flowing.
Then how we get tempted?
I do not have answer. But i did put this filter in my four wheeler. Much satisfaction i got when friends and the mechanics see the sticker and the Caution: Do Not Replace. Only clean and oil.
And they say Wow.
Thats all.
KN needs periodic maintenance.
Not after any specific mileage of run.
But when you see the filter dirty and getting chocked.
A kit is also available from KN.
Wash with the provided soap solution.
Allow to dry for several hours.
Gently sprinkle/apply the provided red oil to moisten the element.
Wipe clean and fit.
Free flow? How to measure? Difference of air volume passing, between KN and Stock.
Hold both of them on your mouth and breath out. Try to diffrentiate.
Theoritically If difference is there THEN theoratically performance and all is there. That's all. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Please.
I use K & N filters on my 2008 HD Dyna and my 2017 Triumph Bonneville Street Cup. In my case in Southern California with Low Humidity and at times high winds these filters perform well. K & N Filters were developed In California Desert Off Road Racing in the 1960's. When you see the color Red on your filter it is oiled correctly. When you clean it with K & N approved product the cotton fibers will be white again. Then you spray on the K & N oil and it will turn Red again. I clean every 4000 to 5000 miles. Ride safe.
Thank you Bill for comprehensive response!
I have a K&N on my Buell Ulysses.
I recommend using K&N oil on the filter because it’s the oil that captures any dust. If you clean and re-oil the filter regularly and it will last indefinitely. As it flows more air than a standard paper filter it should work well with a free flowing exhaust. A K&N doesn’t usually deliver a significant performance but you should get better kms per litre / miles per gallon.
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Thank you Jim for your opinion!
How well does it filter dirt? And dirt residue in your air box?
@@jakethesnake1503 Nothing seems to get through, the air box inside the filter’s as clean as a whistle. I just cleaned and re-oiled the filter recently as part of the spring service. I don’t live in a particularly dusty part of the world though. 👍
Hi, this is just my opinion but I've used k&n filters for 20+ years on both my road cars and race and never had a problem. Just be sure to buy the k&n oil spray and clean and re-oil when necessary. I've seen that the himalayan can struggle with high altitude, that new filter should help that. Cheers!
Thank you, encouraging comment!
The old carb bs3 suffered with altitude due to the mixing but they are old news now! Bs4-bs6 all fuel injected and don't suffer anymore 👍
the reason i do have the K&N filter in my motorcycle, is to wash it every 3000km, the oil recharge is design to arrest subparticle from the air, in this way the engine always get the best air flow from the filter.I always check with a white cotton sheet if it get dirt after the filter, it has been clean
Awesome video friend. Me and my wife have just bought a Himalayan and driving around Chicago is awesome. The suspension is so nice compared my Indian Motorcycle. We both love it and your video is great to watch. Love the side by side comparison. Awesome. I could see the difference, even though small.
Thank you Adam!
To get more power get a bigger engine lol I'm not changing anything on my himalayan because I knew exactly what she was when I bought her 👍 if I wanted more power I would of kept my kawasaki versys 650. The only reason I would have a k & n filter is so i can just clean it and re-use it, but then even the stock you can rinse, dry and re-use. Good vid though, good to know, keep em coming 👍
based on other bikes I installed K&N filters on....the bikes breathe a lot better......not going to see a shit ton more power....but you will notice a difference.....more so on a carbureted bike.....other than an air filter and spark plug upgrade, I am not going to touch my Himi....I am not looking for performance, I bought my bike for what it is.....I just like my equipment to run up to their potential...and be happy
Good video and thanks for demonstrating that there really isn't much of a performance benefit using K&N over OEM. Given the price difference is 4 to 5 times more for a K&N I will stick with OEM.
Hi
I saw your video, would like to add that the airflow system in K&N is different, if you notice the filter is in the form of triangles and on the folds there are no wholes so the air does not go directly the heavier particles just fall.
2. Put your original fiter back and fit the intake cover the other way i.e facing the front which will save your filter from taking in mud and slush from the rear wheel incase of off roading. Even the air intake will increase.
3. Make holes in the inner cover with drill machine and see the huge difference in power in higher RPM with even the original filter
Thank you for your opinion S G
Mr. SG I just hope someone @ the RE R&D department in Redditch, sees your comment . I bet they will offer you the top position in air-box design . It seems like you are a champion at drilling holes .
@@stankropiunik2539 Don't worry about RE. These methods have been tried successfully and have been tested on the dyno aswell.
@@SG-encrypt I am worried a bit , cos you are posting stuff that has no relevance to power increase . And can you please post one Dyno result on here for us all to see ??? Cos, I have not seen one dyno test in my very long association with RE, that proves that one can increase anything by drilling holes in the air filter filament cover or by reversing the air intake faucet . Yes ! I have increased power in one of my Himalayans by upgrading the cubic capacity to 462cc but not by drilling holes in any part of the motorcycle. Maybe it's the " desi " dyno that shows different results to what are available to us here in the rest of world .
Other people have modified the the existing plate so that the centre section is removed entirely. The idea is to leave just a rim to hold the K&N. That will let more air in. The light you see through the filter is where the oil imbued cotton is. Normal. K&N do know what they are doing.
I'd prefer to leave the central covering on air filter cap, in case of heavy rain etc.
s&g filters fit no compromise, plug and play no clamp Hitchcock's uk for the himalayan !
Dors they improve performances on the himalayan ?
DNA makes a similar air filter, but you can also buy a less restrictive filter mount that lets a lot more air through.
There have been 1 or 2 comparisons of the filtration of dust by oiled element "high performance" air filters such as K&N, DNA, etc., on UA-cam, and the conclusion was that there was a significant trade-off between filtration and low restriction - as any rational person would expect. IOW, performance comes at the expense of faster wear of piston rings and perhaps valve seats. I would rather *reduce weight and moment of inertia* , which would increase acceleration and hill climb speed, and reduce stopping distance. As long as you're OK with an increase in noise and exhaust emissions, an after-market muffler would reduce the weight, and converting to tubeless tires would reduce both the weight AND moment of inertia. There are several UA-cam videos on converting wire spoke wheels to run with tubeless tires by sealing the spoke tensioners inside the rim with caulk and 3M tape. The result of lighter wheels would possibly even be quicker steering.
On a bike that cost 5k and a whole top end for this motor (barrel, piston rings and complete cylinder head with new valves) can be had for US $440 I’m not too concerned with accelerated wear.
@@mikerobinson8734 - The average Himalayan buyer might be concerned, though.
Hi there MD, I plan to get my aftermarket air filter from DNA. I will also buy a replacement air filter retaining plate as it allows MUCH greater airflow.
Just watched this again because I just ordered a K&N for my INT650 in hopes of getting a little better fuel mileage, more distance between gas stations. I had forgotten your comment about maybe the filter letting in more fine dust particles. I don't like not using factory parts but since I installed the Bandidos Pitstop Belt Drive conversion kit they did change the gearing ratio between front and rear sprockets for more power which means a small decrease in miles per gallon.
Roger people in comments say that particles doesn't come through the holes if filter is oiled properly. Hope it will work well for your bike.
Do filters increase mileage ?
@@InayaNanban I think it did but but can't quantify that. Also using Silkolene Pro 4 10W-50 XP is supposed to increase mileage a little. I'm doing both.
How much improvement u got in mileage
Congrats. From India hope this works out for you. But Himalayan is Engineered as a workhorse than a Performance machine which expensive bikes like kawasaki can benefit from because those are made very sensitive. Himalayan are like Tractors with Just the OEM Parts you can extract 90% of the performance they engineered to.
Anyways congrats! You can use a combo of PowerCommander 5 + air filter + free flow to achieve a Higher HP & pickup & top speed at the Expense of Not meeting Pollution/Sound Norms.
Thanks! I use Booster Plug instead of Power Commander and it works for me well.
Well said, it’s a workhorse not a performance machine. So many people trying to change it into something it was not designed for. Save your money and enjoy the bike for what it is. I’ve done over 30,000 kms on mine in 14months and see no need to modify it.
Due to multiple porous in K&N filters. So that only the manufacturer mentioned to apply oil befor fitting i think 🤔.
I have been using k & n filters in my cars for years and I live in a very dusty area with no problems.
Trying to ram more air through the same restrictive exhaust is a futile attempt to get more power. You would definitely need to add an aftermarket header and high flow muffler. At this point the bike becomes much louder as well. These things must be considered.
Brian, non of all modifications I made increased the power, only one significant change was made by Booster Plug, engine became more stable and alive, others are just mods to be different.
Orderd mine a few weeks ago, looking forward to see the results. Today I got mail, it's on the way to my place.
You are right……. After a while dust buildup in carburator and hamper performance
We found out in comments that air filter should be oiled properly and it will work just fine.
Hello from Germany,
this was also a great Video with a wonderful Test. Congretulations therefor!!!
But by the way: I've jused K&N -Airfilters often in differently Bikes, so in Ural Gear Up 750 and in Honda Varadero Injektion. Resumee of both usings: Better running and lower Patrol consumption.
And when jusing the Filter, you must oil it.!! Its not sure, that the filter is ready for take off after new unpacked.... there is a spezial oil needed direct from and for K&N, also after cleaning with special cleaner by K&N, that's what i have to tell you, it's my experience. May be, that the oil closes the filter-gaze and picks up the dust... may be.
But also: When I mounted the Filter, I changed anytime the Spark Plugs. I've taken Iridium- Sparks by NGK.
So it is,
best regards,
Peter
Peter.
Ural... is the hell of the bike! We carried sacks of potatoes on the old Ural 650.
K&N filter is pre oiled, that's the information from official K&N Q&A video on their channel.
I've heard that proper spark plug increase performance of the bike, but never test it. If so I'd like to make a video about it.
@@MotorcyclistDiaries Thanks for informations....Ural, yes, in front of the hell, not directly. But when everything is repaired and you change the oil and filters -my gearup was a 2005 - 750 - it works really good and brings you back home in anytime all the year.....
Hi, nice effort, u will need to check one more thing, can u remove the top black cover of the air filter? Problem is that the air filter gets air from a side entry, remove and replace with a clamp that will allow free air flow into the air filter, you will immediately notice the difference
And airfilter would be still protected from elements?
@@MotorcyclistDiaries yes, air filter will not get damaged as the outer area cover is installed to save it from the elements. Infact, if you check stage 2 kit for K&N filter, the side entry air intake is removed and replaced with a clamp such that the triangle opening is fully open only the outside area box is used to protect the filter
Try powerage exhausts with the filter
Thanks for hint!
Is the k&N designed for the air to flow from the centre outward? The paper one is. But now to clean the k&N all the dirt and dust will be inside the filter and hard to clean properly.
Yes from center to outward. K&N have cleaner for that purpose b.cdnbrm.com/images/info/k_n/kn_airfilter_cleaning_instructions.pdf
Hello. I use my Himalayan for commuting every day in Germany and I live it. Great bike. A question regarding oil consumption. I am facing 100 ml oil consumption in 1000 km. It is ok for me, but I'm a bit surprised, because normally for a new bike it shouldn't consume oil at all..... What is your experience ? Best regards, Stefano
Hi Stefano! I didn't add any amount of oil as far as I remember.
i never used one before. supposed to be the best filters from what i hear.
This filter is washable that's the main reason I would stick with it for some time. It doesn't effect performance of the motorcycle though.
Nice watch 👍seiko skx007?
Nice bike too 🤣👍
The reason you didnt get much more performance is because of the exhaust.
Its too restrictive.
If you put after market exhaust/better flow you would notice a difference 👍
Ahah! You nailed it! skx007))
Did some test with free flowing exhaust too and even made a vid on my channel. Truly saying doesn’t make a huge difference unfortunately.
Useful vlog dude. Keep posting🎉
Thank you Ajay!
Ideally you'd want to put a new piston and then rebore the cylinder :D
really very informative good video
Nice video, genuinely nice video
I watched your video on your new Honda 110 and was curious if you use Italian filter on your new Honda 110 also??
Hi Aaron, I use stock filter on Honda Cub, don't do anything in terms of performance with this bike, finally)) Only luggage and adaptation for longer trips
Have you tried a K & N oil filter? They have one, the 401 I believe, which looks like it might work.
No I didn’t.
Thank you
I am curious, you have replaced your exhaust system so now it is breathing better, and now a K&N filter, some have said that you need to install an aftermarket ignition/ECU * "PowerTronic" is one..
I have a replacement exhaust (GT Moto) and wanted to replace air with K&N myself, but after reading a few forums people were mentioning that I also had to update my ECU(?) to make this work better as now the engine is breathing w/ less restriction..I hope I am making a little sense. Thanks. (also VERY surprised how heavy the stock muffler unit is!!)
Hi! I had Booster Plug installed. I didn't see any difference in performance with swapping exhaust and air filters. The real change in dynamic IMHO would be made by Performance Camshaft, where exhaust and filters could help engine breath freely.
Do you need to do a remap for this high performance filter?
I didn't do any remapping. Just simple 10 minutes idle run.
What are your opinions at the end? Improved performance or not?
Truly saying I didn't find any difference in performance. But I would upgrade to K&N just because of it's quality and "washability" and "reusablitiy"
dude but its no need OEM ones r all gud
Is that affect milage drop
I didn’t notice that.
Just curious how you are feeling about your modifications now that you have had some time to ride with the new set up? I have a K&N filter, Delkevic exhaust and am waiting for my booster plug. The bike came with the modifications and does not run well, so I am hoping the booster plug solves the jerking motion I get at mid-range rpm's or I will convert everything back to stock. Cheers and thanks for your videos!
Hi Chris! Booster plug yet is one of the best investments I’ve made into performance of Himalayan. You’ll like it! There is another performance device teased by TEC bike (camshaft) hope they’ll keep their word and release it to make Himalayan fans more happy)).
@@MotorcyclistDiaries Thanks so much! Just curious if you have left your charcoal cannister set up or if you have removed the hoses and re-routed the vent hose and throttle body hose for better ventilation and air flow to the throttle body?
@@chrisgraham887 I didn't do any of this.
But how well does it filter out dirt?
Owners say that properly oiled filter prevent from any size of dust
You r wrong I think...you better look improvement in fuel economy than performance, cheers.
Every person has its own goals IMHO.
I had a doubt if this voids warranty? Thank you in advance!
I understood that terms of warranty is different from country to country. But you cant put back default filter before inspection as far as it doesn't make any harm on engine.
In India, the service centres really don't mind minor mods. If they give you grief, tell them that K&n filters are better and more expensive than the OEM, and chances are they'll let it be. Worked for me at least :P
@@awenindoe Thank you brother ❤️
First you need to identify your goal, do you want better filtration or do you want better performance, go longer or go faster? Very difficult to get both.
My goal is to get both.
@@MotorcyclistDiaries if you want both then fit the OEM air filter and a powertronic ECM.
Hi sir, what is the milage drop upon installation of K&N filter??
Hi Vishnu! I'll make review, my thoughts about REH motorcycle, I'll include fuel efficiency before and after installation of Booster Plug and Airfilter
This K&N filter will do nothing and neither will adding a stupid noisy free flow exhaust. All this non-nonsensical talk on UA-cam is just for those who have more money than brains . The Himalayan is set up from the factory to run super lean ( hence all the engine heating problems ) and adding this free flow air- intake will only screw up the air pressure in the air box, as the air box is designed for a specific purpose on EFI motorcycles, in accordance with the cubic capacity . Installing a free flow exhaust as recommended by many will decrease the pressure inside the outlet manifold and make the bike loose low end power, where it is needed most in an adventure bike like the Himalayan. The original filter has been designed to filter a specific amount of air into the engine @ atmospheric pressure . The paper filter restricts the this flow and creates a pressure inside the air box, so when you suddenly open the throttle, the fuel injection system consumes the air already existing the air box . The Boosterplug you have added will infarct work better in tandem with the OEM air filter. So, dump this piece of cotton gauze and put the OEM filter back . If you want you can take your bike to the dealership, ask them to hook it up to the Himalayan diagnostic software and increase the fuel injected into the engine. it will give you a better performance @ cruising speeds, run the engine much cooler at high rpm's but increase fuel consumption . These high flow filters were invented to be installed on either turbo charged or supercharged cars where the air is force fed into the engine and not at atmospheric pressure and huge amounts amounts of air are required . Yes ! If your Himalayan had a carburetor engine this filter would have worked wonders as there would be no ECM to monitor the constant change in air pressure, in the air box or air temperature, hence this problem of the engine hunting at low rpm's and misfiring @-deceleration would not exist . I am sure you have read the book by the inventor of Boosterplug , so that should explain it all. I own both the carb and EFI model of the Himalayan and I have experimented extensively . Now for the answer to your question about dust getting into the intake manifold ? The answer is absolutely no ! I have a K&N filter installed on my BS3 ( carb engine ) Himalayan and that bike is in India . I have ridden it on every road and every no road up into the mountains of Ladakh, many many times, where roads are just carpets of dust for hundreds of kilometres and not a spec of dust ever got into the air box . So, you are super safe in Korea .
Thank you Stan for your comprehensive opinion!
Not in my field but, what if I use powertronic ecu with redrooster exhaust and stock filters? I’ve bs 4 Indian standard. Will this increase in power will anyhow affect the durability of the engine?
@@thunglamohumtsoe5710 Powertronic piggy back ECU ( 18000 ) plus Red Rooster exhaust ( 8000 ) = 26000 Indian Rupees for an increase of 1.3 horsepower ( Dyno tested ) ??? For that much, I will re-bore the original cylinder head to 480cc, install a new forged piston, connecting rod, wrist pin and piston rings. And hammer out an extra 16 horsepower!!! As for your question about durability, the free - flow exhaust, will only make noise, the Powrtronic ECM will throw extra fuel into the engine since the air pressure in the exhaust will decrease, so the end result will be a noisy bike with increased fuel consumption and absolutely no benefit. The engine will incur damage but only to the piston rings.
Stan Kropiunik alright, thankyou for your expertise 👍🏻
@@stankropiunik2539 did you get my email re: 477 from last friday?
Thought you might like this video ua-cam.com/video/sJ3L-E-ufYo/v-deo.html It shows the K&N filter's poor performance at filtering particles. It's a car filter not a motorcycle filter but I expect that the results would be similar for K&N's motorcycle filter.
Thanks for comment. Good link. Since I live if Korea, I hardly could find dusty roads I didn't really care about filtering particles. If conditions were exact opposite I would think to more offroad type sponge filter.
Overkill.