The Men Who Call Themselves Non-Offending Pedophiles
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2019
- Non-offending pedophile is a term used to describe an adult who is attracted to children but has never acted on those feelings with a child.
David, a 21-year-old college student in the United States, knows he is attracted to children between the ages of 4 and 11. He’s one of many pedophiles who knows it is wrong, but believes he was born this way, and that with treatment those urges can be controlled.
But to get that help, people like David have to seek it. And in the United States, that comes with huge risk due to mandatory reporting laws that require therapists to report people they deem a risk to children to the police.
Elizabeth Letourneau, director of the Moore Center for the Prevention of Child Sex Abuse, is one of few researchers in the U.S is focusing on preventative measures to help pedophiles.
“Even if you've never offended, if you are sexually interested in children and you reach out to a therapist for help, they may decide that you still represent a threat,” Letourneau said. “And that their concerns meet the threshold for a mandatory report.”
That's not the case at Berlin's "Project Dunkelfeld," one of the only places in the world that offers treatment for pedophiles.
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Elizabeth Letourneau, director of the Moore Center for the Prevention of Child Sex Abuse, is one of few researchers in the U.S is focusing on preventative measures to help pedophiles.
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Like, "news" tho? Really? Like, REALLY really?
Cause this looks less "new" and more like collegehumor apologizing for pedophiles.
How many Pedos are on the Boards at VICE?
They didn't choose
Lets talk abt asshole elite the worse of worse in this eh vice newss or u controlled too by them?
I think if people are inclined to abuse children they should avoid professions where they’re around children.
Yeah. An alcoholic shouldn't be working as a bartender and people with these urges should have no contact around children in their profession.
I think it would depend on the person. The risk is the same as a straight man working in an environment with constant interactions with women. To say it's impossible is false... but to ignore the likelihood that at least one of those children will eventually catch a teaching pedophiles attention is also irresponsible on their part. I don't think a pedophile who is self conscious about their sexuality within the context of the society they live in would actively choose to teach minors though. But that's just my opinion.
@@Soletestament The risk is nowhere the same as straight men working with women. In that situation you have two grown adults able to take care of themselves and handle themselves through maturity and growth. The other involves a child who is not sophisticated or fully developed yet physically or mentally.
Secondly a male working with females has the liberty of releasing his sexual tensions legally outside of work. A pedophile does not.
You mean like Bill Maher? Lol
It's just a push to normalize pedophilia.
If someone recognizes that they shouldn't be having those particular thoughts and urges, why shouldn't they be able to ask for help?
Marvin Martin we stop that cycle by euthanizing them 👍🏽
Fontana Ceiliosa that’s not going to end the cycle though. Because pedophiles will keep existing. I don’t think pedophilia should be excused by any means; anything that involves traumatizing children should absolutely be discouraged. But if a person recognizes that what they’re thinking is morally wrong, and want to change, they shouldn’t even be given the opportunity?
Marvin Martin it won’t. People think that wanting to help non-offending pedophiles means you just support pedophilia. I support people getting the mental health help that they need. If someone was having homicidal thoughts, I’d want them to be able to reach out for help too.
Fontana Ceiliosa nope. That’s not what that bill says. It will actually (hopefully) eliminate discrimination against LGBTQ youth, which is a good thing. It’s not a pro-pedophilia bill. With children younger than 14, mandatory sex offender registration is still in place. Before it was passed, an 18 year old that had oral sex with a 17 year old would be forced to register as a sex offender, whereas a 24 year old that had sex with a 15 year old would not automatically have to, as it would be left to the discretion of the judge. The age of consent in California is still 18, meaning that a sex act with someone under that age is still a criminal act.
ProfessorAlaska you probably also think the film Cuties is a good “coming of age” movie. Gtfoh
Honestly if they can recognize what they're feeling is morally wrong and they seek to better themselves I can respect that.
You can do nothing. The disease has spread (pedophilia), and it has managed to affect 10% of the Earth’s population, and international law will allow it as a sexual orientation. When you leave your home, you will see at least 3 people with this deviation, and you do not know
if only people recognized wars as morally wrong as sex with children...
if someone is this willing to save others from themself then i love them more than myself
long ago same gender sex is morally wrong. now its celebrated. its only a matter of time pedophilia is celebrated and included in the group of abnormal sexual orientation knowns as lgtbqp
Only the action would be morally wrong, not the feeling.
As a victim of child SA, I think it’s disgusting how people treat people with these urges who genuinely want help to avoid offending. They need to feel safe to seek help, then fewer of us would become victims
If I went to the dentist and I said I had a toothache and he had to report me because he felt that my other teeth were going to have two things as well that would make no sense if someone is asking for help if someone is saying I feel this way and I need some help and you're going to go ahead and kick them out of the job maybe kick them out of the place they live because you feel that they may be a threat how can I be a threat if they're coming and saying I feel this way I'm not doing anything but I feel this way and I don't want to feel this way anymore so please I need some help and now they get punished for asking for help this does not make any sense to me
@@brilliantmindsproductionac6428 I really do not understand what you are saying. But to clarify, my point was that people who have these feelings and want help, should be helped without being treated badly
Amen!!!🙏🏻
Most people (especially in the U.S) don’t think like you. Meaning they aren’t really grounded in rationality. Sure, these guys shouldn’t become kindergarten teachers or school bus drivers. But why completely bar someone from the opportunity to grow as a functioning member of society by possibly having a career that doesn’t involve contact with minors? Because it all comes back to the stigma.
Employers wants to look good, and if they employ people like this, they themselves will stigmatized and crucified. It’s just a toxic draconian cycle that for some reason just can’t be shaken, which sucks, because none of the stuff like the horrendous registry has ever done any good at fixing the issue. By the way, it’s sad and unfortunate that you experienced that as a kid.
Exactly!!! It happened to me as well as a child( well I think, the memory is blurry). And let’s just say it took a toll on me. Unfortunately because of the stigma, there is no help for me. Only thing I can do I keep quiet.
If you do not support preventative measures for potential offending pedophiles, you care more about your own anger than you do about children.
Absolutely agree!
Spot on! You should be president
@@njhawksworth1588 Good, I want them to hide
@@skeletonjanitor The fact that they are hiding will not put an end to the abuse, indeed most likely the pedophile who does not receive any supervision will be more predisposed to satisfy his desires, leading to more abuses. It is necessary to put the person attracted to children in a position where they cannot harm them and incentivize others who are the same to voluntarily put themselves in that position. In this way, it is possible to effectively decrease abuse and monitor possible predators.
Of course, this does not mean that there won't be several pedophiles who will continue in their disgusting acts. Obviously, they must be harshly punished.
It's really nice and all, however those preventive measures tend to be useless, even quemichal castration somewhow showed to be unefective on pedos, the best way to deal whit them is just giving them a very painful dead, that might disencourage them, I personally think that using pedos to train police dogs would be a solid idea, seems to me a very efficient way to use them, that way your training the police dog's and the taxpayers don't need to spend money on them
The "sexual orientation" remark is why there is this many dislikes
Yeah, I don't think it's accurate to call paedophilia a "sexual orientation." Also, his method for measuring the success of his programme is questionable. Other than that, I agree with that he said.
@@manmelt4037 I agree that paedophilia is natural and not a choice, but it's not a sexual orientation. Sexual orientation relates to the gender(s) one is attracted to; children isn't a gender.
I do believe the pedos think it is their sexual orientation. Because to be fair, how could orientation only point to genders?
I get that we might think their “attraction” cannot be “called” an orientation because it is absurd. But to them, it’s clear it’s their orientation, right?
@@manmelt4037 5:53
I don't know why it wouldn't be a sexual orientation, but - importantly - it is also a disorder.
What a lot of people don't seem to realise is that there is no legitimate way to criminalise sexual attraction, because that would be like criminalising thought itself. As long as there is no act, there is no crime, and a person remains innocent.
They don’t care, they’re too blinded by their rage towards this subject(it’s valid don’t get me wrong, but there needs to be a limit so innocent people aren’t unjustly punished)
"criminalising thoughts" is not somehow bad? So thinking about murdering a huge crowd of people - planning and scheming it - shouldn't be punished?
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@@Latinarama I might have, it’s been a while, what did the comment say and can you link the video?
@@ALUCARD-us3il Ah never mind, it was someone named Enis P. Your name seems so familiar though, maybe it was a different comment
From the look of the reporter’s face I can tell this is hard to sit through
I agree; difficult topic to cover.
What about operation paperclip
When he said _how you feel about women is how I feel about kids_ - that struck him deep. Thank god he hasn't acted on those feelings and I pray he never does. It's just sick. A child can't give you what a consenting peer can.
I feel the reporter was kind unprofessional. Seems like he got assigned this story and didn't really want to do it. He invlude a bunch of his responses that weren't really necessary like lots of gasp and sarcastic laughs ....its like yeah was determined to show the viewes he thinks those he is interviewing are out there or far fetched.
I think he looked quite calm.
Deep down that interviewer is like Naaaaaahhhh
Deep down he wants to attack these people.
Not deep down-- openly....he was kinds unprofessional
.like why go and interview them? If you gonna be condescending? Also while editing the final cut he felt it necessary to purposely includ his uncomfortableness ...like he isnt confident in himself...I felt like he was trying to prove to the viewer he isnt empathizing with the pedaphile or the ideas of the therapist....he was totally over compensating
..m
Not even deep down bro. It was pretty obvious.
@@guinnster1 I think it was an effort to portray the common perception. As a journalist, it would look weird if he appeared supportive or even neutral of such a controversial topic.
@@brandihillcom He is representing the common view of an oppressive society. His job is to make you think... Not to convince you.
Did it work?
There’s a difference between “normalize” and “de-stigmatize”. They are not trying to normalize pedophilia. It is a mental disorder, it is not normal. But society needs to be more sympathetic towards a human being asking for help with a problem they have.
@Karsten Fohler okay, but it isn't a sexual orientation either.
@Karsten Fohler What?!?!
@@wakousyremu8946 Scientific definitions aren't the same as colloquial usage of a word, I wouldn't expect a professional to use common man lingo during an interview like this. Paraphilia is basically defined as 'abnormal sexual orientations', it's not implying it's safe to act upon.
I disagree , its not "sympathetic"
Society should be more practical and quick toward it , if it is a mental disorder doesn't make it (should be sympathized with) , serial killers have mental disorders , psychopaths have mental disorders , so should we be more sympathetic with them ? ,
The thing is
THEY ARE DANGEROUS
They need to be dealt with efficiently and quickly , they should be put ander watch and heavy treatment and therapy and never be (sympathized with)
no men dont deserve sympathy
We need to make sure these people get the therapy and counseling they so desperately need.
You can do nothing. The disease has spread (pedophilia), and it has managed to affect 10% of the Earth’s population, and international law will allow it as a sexual orientation. When you leave your home, you will see at least 3 people with this deviation, and you do not know
@@MohammedOmar-jo5ut10% will have to be culled, then.
@@johncaze757 The time will come
There is no therapy for peds
@@GigaChadh976 Yes, there is. B4U-ACT and even finding a MHP not with their help. Though that takes time, but is doable. One must also define just what they mean by "therapy". More mindfulness, less prevention BS. I'm also for psychotherapy, aka, talk therapy.
I liked this reporter. He asked questions like he was having a conversation instead of like a prosecutor. This was a tough subject.
Exactly
What is his name?
King Louis XIV your comment is irrelevant. Just like your country of Canada. The annoying, Upstairs neighbor of America.
@Thomas Jefferson NAUTTP NATHDTC ASITH It depends what you mean by morals. Everyone's morals are different. As example, in intercourses, I only disagree with rapes and harms. Let's say a minor somehow gives consent to an adult, is ready to start their sexual life and that adult is already known by the child's relatives and are convinced that adult is not gonna force that kid if it's too harsh for him or doesn't want to as well as in adult relationships, where no party would ever force the other one into an unwanted intercourse or anything else. If you are attracted to kids and have the same control as a straight/gay human who would never have sex without consent or without knowing it's not too rough for your partner, then, I wouldn't care anymore about your private life as long as I am sure no one's put at risk. I only care about safety, I care less about how that relationship's partners look or sth like that. I mean, I may not be used to sth like that, it could sound gross to me if you come up with an idea like that. But good news is I don't need to think about it, I only think about safety. If a minor has sexual attraction towards you and is ready to start their life, you should see if it's not too rough for him an intercourse with an adult after a long time deciding if that adult is trust-worthy. It's hard, because I also have some prejudices in my mind, Idk what's hiding in everyone's mind, that's why I need to check. I would be pretty protective no matter the partner. If I feel that partner could be a risk, I wouldn't agree with that relationship. But if you prove me you're not a risk (sth that's pretty hard, but not impossible), I'm gonna be perfectly fine with your relationship. I would never agree with abuses or rapes, okay? These are crimes. Consensual relationships are not. Maybe, an 8 year-old couldn't give consent because of not having any sexual attraction (as far as Ik, Idk if that's possible. At this point, I don't think so), but a 13 year-old could. If they're attracted to you too, it doesn't matter that I don't like the pattern of your relationship just because it's not the same as mine. Regarding marriage, I only agree getting married ppl ready to build a future with their partner, ready to encounter life and all the challenges on their own skin. These are my morals, okay? I may be a millenial, but I still think I have morals. I don't believe age is important as long as you are able to fall in love. I mean, there are lots of rapes and abuses. These should be prevented, but not all relationships are abuses either between adults or between adults and a minor. There might be very few relationships like these or if not, they're most likely hidden because of prejudices and critics. Look, to me, relationships are totally normal. When there are attractions between ppl who could give consent, actually give it and are ready to get in it and they are cautious about the others feelings and health too, then, Idc how gross it looks to me. Not everyone could have a relationship like mine. To me, it matters more what ppl offer, not how the person who offers looks. That's what influences our relationships of any type. Not how old is that person or stuff like that. It's not about your age here or other stuff like that, but about what you offer. Idk, these are my morals, you could attack me, I'm not the type to tell ppl how the person they have a relationship with should look like based on my preferences or how long they've been on Earth as long as they are able to feel attractions towards each other. Idc, I won't just look at your relationship if I don't like how it looks. You could hold hands and kiss without me watching you. Not more than that, I'd feel very uncomfortable and disgusted by an intercourse. As long as you care about everyone's feelings, safety and health, especially your partner, then, go live your life. Idk what Albertans think, I'm from a mostly conservative place, but my morals are pretry different and I have not against it, it's just my opinion based on what I feel actually matters in general and my experiences. When it's proved there's no danger around, I'm not worried anymore and Idc anymore. It's perfectly normal living your life with someone who you love and loves you back and none of you would force or hurt anyone
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The idea is simple: every person who has ever sexually abused a child was first a person who was THINKING about abusing a child. If you recognize that a person does not become a pedophile upon abusing, but long before, then you can reach out and prevent tragedy. The compassionate thing for all parties - both perpetrators and victims - is to recognize the reality of this condition and reach out to the adults experiencing it for help.
there impulsion outweighs logic ALL the time.
The idea is simple. Every person in prison was once a person who was once not in prison. Therefore every person should be viewed as a criminal. Same logic.
@@zjones9876 lol what? That isn't even the same logic as the person who posted the original comment. Every bank robber was once a person who thought about robbing a bank. Every serial killer was once someone who thought about killing people. You're generalising too much by saying that every person that has gone to prison was once someone who wasn't in prison, which as you can see by my examples, isn't even the same logic.
@@user-uk5hc6ce8e I'm just saying we don't throw people in prison for thinking thoughts.
@@zjones9876 Of course we don't. I think the original commenter was just saying that everyone who has molested a child has thought about molesting one, and therefore we should try and help them before they hurt any children.
How wtf do you deserve any kind of punishment if you haven't committed a crime?
because it's just right
@@LordVader066says who?
Imagine being attracted to people that you didn’t want to be attracted to and wanted to seek help but couldn’t because of persecution. Man, we need to make treatment more accessible for these people
There’s nothing they can do about it, unless you act on your urges.
I agree, that said I would not consider pedophilia as a normal sexual orientation nor do I think orientation is 100% what you are born with (just about everything is nature AND nurture i.e. genetics AND environment). I think the significant association between being abused and becoming an abuser supports this fact.
It's a fine line between creating an environment/system where people can seek help before they commit these acts without normalizing or excusing them. Personally, I think the US should do a better job on giving people an avenue for help without ruining their life, but I wholly reject the acceptance of pedophilia as part of someone's identity. If someone with clinical depression sees themselves as worthless, we do not accept that as an intrinsic part of their identity, we use CBT to change those thought patterns/perceptions and we need to do the same with pedophilia (among other things).
@@Tyler-vw9bhyou both have the same pfp lol
@@crwth001lol
If I had those urges I would've sterilized myself a long time ago
Yo, I genuinely like how brutally honest this guy is with his questions. It may come off rude to some people, but I think it hits perfect especially with a topic as hard as this.
MAP tried to lower the age of consent, tries to argue bullfluff and is just overall being very d-gusting. Please do inform yourself, so we might all get it right in the End: Being a pedo is objectively negative, but not a conagous Evilness that you just have to surrender to. Both facts are important to know.
Pedaphilia is allowed in San Antonio
Makes it easier to identify them and punish them. =3
@@viberecord3323 you know what's funny, different countries have different laws about determining what age is under age
@@slevinchannel7589 its natural human instinct to start to become attracted to some girls when they hit puberty, as it is throughout all of nature throughout all history until very recently for humans in many places, kids are often subject to not growing up properly these days so its societal structure that makes it wrong though their are some exceptions to the rule and not all kids are childish and immature, some kids are more mature than most adults who never seem to grow up thanks to that same societal structure, thats the main reason it may be wrong now days
Unpopular opinion but saying things like “pedophiles should all be shot” just makes the problem worse by making them go into hiding, “non offending pedophiles” should be able to seek help without fear of prosecution imo.
Yes.
Completely agree, these people need somewhere to go.
Shaun Sharted yes, these people aren’t just gonna fall off the earth if you ask them to. The only way to get rid of them is to help them.
this is an unpopular oppinon, do people live in the middle ages?
They fucking can. No one is stopping them from getting therapy. Does it mean normalize. just like a psychopath having the urge to kill shouldn't be normalized either. We CANNOT destigmatize it.
I love this reporter. He never danced around the issue, he was almost insultingly blunt but I loved it. Have this guy do more reports.
Insulting isn't the word. He just asked what was on his mind and frankly it just happened to be similar to what we were wondering.
The reporter does look uncomfortable as hell during these interviews.
He gave me serious Walter Kronkite vibes.
He asked great questions I was thinking the same thing. I knew the comment section would be praising him.
Alzo Slade
I really feel for these people. I only have respect for those who have the courage to admit it and seek help before any harm to any kids happen.
Pedaphilia is allowed in San Antonio
>.> It's bs the only benefit of these people admitting their attraction is to make it easier to give them punishment for it.
@@umbrellaunderdog No THIS is bs. Admitting to attractions to a proper therapist that will never tell anyone about it unless they show clear inclination to act on it will help them stop obsessing over kids to the point that it takes over their life. It's absolutely miserable to live in such a way
That’s a law that was put in place in Germany put child sex abuse is still high there.
That isn’t going to work.
Not all Pedophilles that abused children did it because help wasn’t available they did because they wanted to, an so rationalize that a child body is made for sex.
That’s why those who seek treatment and therapy still have high probability to offend and still offend.
In the American medical enclyopedia book Pedophilles brains show little to zero concern for the effect the affect they have on kids.
Forgive me, I meant to say that a law put in place in Germany if pedophiles seek treatment and admit to viewing child sexual abuse material, considering molesting children, or have done it,
Therapists are not legally obligated to tell the police anymore for their protection and so they can continue to seek treatment.
This law that was put in place did nothing to stop child sex abuse because I’m Germany child sex abuse is still high.
Being mad at these people is like making fun of a homeless person filling out a job application.
No it is not. You sound belligerent.
Ding, ding. I think we found a pedo.
@@ahappilydrunkpuppy8961how is that hostile or aggressive
this guy is clearly one of them
@benjaminwaldron1101 Yes defending someone's who's never committed a crime makes he himself a criminal.
I love how people have no problem advocating murder but trying to get help for a mental disorder is abhorrent
Probably they just secretly wants the non offending pedo to continue develop the mental illness instead of seeking help. Joke aside, letting them seeking treatment imo is the better option. It might cure them or at the very least help control that urge. If it fails then I'm sure it's not any worse than literally stopping them from getting the treatment that might've help them no matter how small of a chance. But go ahead and threaten them, I'm sure that will totally magically reduce the amount of pedophile.
@@monsesh1316 If anything it would deter them from getting help even more.
@@monsesh1316 its better than leaving them to their own devices that's for sure. The people going "we should just give them a bullet" don't seem to realize that it won't eliminate the problem, just encourage them to hide it
Exactly
It's subjects like the one in this video that really show how stupid people are. They don't want to try and help these pedophiles who admit they are pedophiles and want help. People are so damn stupid.
I was sexually assaulted throughout my entire childhood by a family member. The same thing was done to him and his family, society, everything around him shamed him into silence. Silence for his own abuse, silence when having urges to continue the cycle. If mental health was accepted and treatment embraced, would I have suffered? Would he have been able to get help and not offended? The fact that I don’t know the answer to that question will always make me stand up for the right basic of mental healthcare. Someday, the stigma change I fight for will help someone else never have that question.
Thank you, Vice, for giving us all a voice.
Well here is the thing, not all who are abused become abusers. They do have a choice and he chose to hurt you. It is sad that he had no one to help him when he needed it. But that does not mean he had so little self control not to hurt you. In fact, because he was abused, that should have completely pushed him in the other direction. He knew what it was like to be vulnerable. He knew what it was like to be powerless. He knew. But he hurt you anyway. We cannot control the people who trespass against us. But we do have control of what kind of person we are. We do have control over our decisions. And you know this because you won't do what he did. That makes you far more stronger than him.
@@scorpiocarnage1055 what are you
@@scorpiocarnage1055 Yes but it may also depend if the abuse made him think it was normal ish
@@ChickenTendere No excuse. That kind of reasoning undermines his actions towards the original commenter. It's terrible that it happened to him. That doesn't mean he gets to do it to someone else.
@@majohny1588 A human.
imagine being born like this, how awful it must be to have this be a part of you. but also, how awful it is to be molested not just at any age, but as an innocent child.
U aren't born that way!!! Most pedophiles do what they do cuz they have no game. Sick fucks
Pedaphilia is allowed in San Antonio
No one born this way who thinks this way thinks it's "awful" it's a scam. And you can't rehabilitate them.
It sucks
Just like being gay it’s not born you get it
There's a huge issue with everyone thinking pedophiles are only men, especially this therapist who is supposed to be helping.
Non-Heterosexual couples, should not be compared to adults grooming innocent children! Adults can have a consensual loving relationship, while adults cannot have that with innocent children.
Thank you!
I mean...
*statistics don’t lie*
No one is suggesting they should be, this video is not about grooming.
Gordo The God where? Show proof? Lmfao “gordo”
@Reggie M fbi statistics mate. Can’t remember the exact one but most male child molestation cases are perpetrated by another male
If you truly want to find a solution, you must listen to the TRUTH regardless of how disgusting you may find it.
Tina W thanks. I know it’s uncomfortable. And to be honest, I would not want my future kids(I don’t have any) around those with pedophilia. But I have no ill will on one who has the disorder and applaud them for getting help.
Jak Stone and your the reason we are so screwed up. Kids are going to be molested, all because ideologists like you care more about punishing people over some illness they have than about preventing the problem to begin with.
Fundemons it’s an illness, you need help.
Tallu Peck I’m no pedophile dude, and we all know pedophilia is a mental illness.
@Jak Stone society doesn't have the balls? Your opinion is dumb. You are thick. Complete offence.
You're a communist. If we lived in your society, you'd be the first one to be shot. Go to North Korea if you have such a hard-on for authoritarian justice.
Pedophilia is a disorder, people with Pedophilia who didn't assault anyone needs help but the ones who assaulted, needs some serious punishment
I appreciate the efforts of people with this paraphilia working hard not to offend. I hope very much that extremely effective treatment comes their way that they can live a normal life. The offending against children is huge, and I want to see it stop.
Pedaphilia is allowed in San Antonio
like sex dolls, perhaps one day sex robots
Vice please give this reporter more projects. He’s one of the best interviewers you’ve had in a while.
Agreed 👍 👍
They need to give him some unbiased training lol
@Zabuza Momochi sorry that he wasn't comfortable enough to pedophiles talking about their sexual feelings towards children 🙄
His voice is so good and his demeanor/ I really enjoy him
@@earthing3696 I understand where you're coming from, but to be a successful journalist, you have to be unbiased. This is his job. Child abuse is serious, and if we can approach the topic seriously with maturity, then perhaps we can prevent more children in the future from being abused. It's best to keep the "ewwww" reactions in high school classrooms.
Whether you believe that pedophilia is a sexual orientation or not, it's very revealing that some pedophiles try to not act on their urges, and there should be more people to help them prevent committing abuse.
Yeah but people don't understand the difference between help and acceptance. The new wave of pedophiles, in America at least, are just trying for acceptance. They are not looking for or express a wanting for rehab. That is why people are so against even helping them. You give with an inch and they want a foot. Pedophiles need to know, even though they haven't offended, they do not deserve acceptance for their urges. They need fixing, not babying.
@@Elizabeth-sd8vg "They need fixing, not babying." Exactly. This people are asking for help to fix themselves. Arresting them, ostracizing them, or beating them up does not fix them
Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation you sicko!
@@KA-lb8cb you want people with a mental disorder to be killed?
@@Vzxee like a bad dog
Suggestion: Those who constantly call for the brutal deaths of non offending pedophiles should institutionalize themselves. They are equally not safe to be around and should be shamed.
@savage dressing No it's not rational if the people they want to die a brutal death has done nothing wrong.
@savage dressing its already legal
@savage dressing having thoughts are legal. you dont see someone going to prison for having violent thoughts, right? pedophilia is legal until you harm a child
@savage dressing Not even talking about that. You should be aware based on my comment. It was pretty explicit.
I cannot imagine the torment they suffer, the cannot help the feelings they get, they choose to not go through with their urges.
I have many MAP friends. I am so sad, so empathetic for them. I wish I could help them more, but I love them all the same.
@@woodlanddove no
boo fucking hoo
@@divine555We hate people like u lol
The interviewer was ready to dip this. I can feel how uncomfortable he felt the whole video. God.
marianela cabaña yeah I felt bad for him
Its understandable tho... I mean the pedo and the doctor literally want pedos to be accepted in society... they want pedos to be around kids... they want having sex with kids acceptable. Any rational person would react how he did, and im actually surprised he wasn't even more freaked out. Imagine if people like Jeff Epstein was accepted by the society as a whole LMAO like really? These freaks will NEVER be accpeted as long as parents have children. Just facts. Treat them but lets not make them the same as us because they are not, and accepting them will just justify their actions. SICK!
I felt very comfortable.
Willy Bandz you seem to have missed the whole point of the video
@@WillzMaster85 , actually the pedo's and the doctors want the complete opposite of what you describe.
The thing that got me most was that guy saying it should be fine for paedophiles to live and work among children like schools etc. No fcking way would i let a paedophile anywhere near my children. A non paedophile is not going to sexually abuse a child, a paedophile may, no matter how small the chances. You dont take even the smallest chance when it comes to potentially ruining a childs entire life, just to satisfy the career goals of an adult. Dont know how the interviewer from vice managed to stay through the interview you can feel his discomfort
You'd be surprised how many non-pedophiles sexually abuse children. Even if you got rid of all pedophiles that still wouldn't get rid of child molestation - not by a long shot.
Exactly if a peado touches one of my kids the bastard will pray for a death that wont come ill keep the demon alive and torcher it
Please. You mean those you know about. Your children could be interacting with someone you know now. Calm down wannabe super parent. Dont forget, start with family members as offenders.
A lot of people think that if you show friendship to a child you must be a pedophile. In Australia a sexual predator was active, He abducted and murdered a young girl (Karmein Chan) The police and media called on the public to nominate a suspect and remain anonymous. 27,000 men were named. (Including myself) 73 of these were charged with an offence (not connected to the abduction and murder) 73 in 27,000 is about 1/4 of 1% so that suggests how easy it is to be falsely accused. Police came to my house to question me. Then one policeman walked straight past me, said "what's in here" then started searching my house" He looked through cupboards and boxes it seems trying to find dirt on me. Then they kept asking where I got things in my house, motorbike parts, cans of food etc. Then they asked about a typewriter. I said I bought it from the school where I worked. The police said they suspected it was stolen and they would contact my work. They contacted my work about the typewriter then asked questions relating to the abduction and murder. Police say an anonymous person wrote to them saying I should be investigated. I was not allowed to know what was said about me so it is hard to defend myself. To even be investigated can turn people against you. It may be just a matter of time before an innocent man gets his life messed up and hits out like Thomas Hamilton did at Dunblane.(He shot 16 children and the teacher dead) If people wished to read my story google innuendo test blog
@@thereats3778 l know this thats why they only stay with me and noone else and yes im superparent
This is heartbreaking. Imagine seeking help for your issue and people rather see you dead than be your best self. Humans are confusing.
Pedaphilia is allowed in San Antonio
@@viberecord3323 except I'm talking about getting help for them, not which states allow it.
Also the fact many people called non offending pedophiles “monsters” yet they believe it’s totally ok to murder them when they haven’t hurt a child. Lot of people are stupid and not smart.
Cannot believe amount of outrages comments in this section saying all pedophiles including non offending pedophiles deserve to die a slow agonizingly painful death, how can you desrve any kind of punishment if you haven't committed a crime or hurt anyone? What is wrong with you people?
Better knowing about it, than acting shocked about it...
THEIR DESIRES ARE DEMONIC !!!! THEY DESIRE TO DEFILE CHILDREN
@Vast People ... is that how you’d feel if your child was raped ?
@@smokymountainangoras Your comments are a prime example of why so many men don't seek help for their problem. They can't change who they're attracted to, but with the proper treatment, they won't harm anyone. You're demonizing them for something they haven't done. You're basically angry with them for a "thought crime".
@@smokymountainangoras No, Knowing what we are dealing with is better than casting stones and exorcizing unknown demons. They haven't acted on it and they are telling us about their problem we should offer all the help we can not be shocked by the known problem.
Vast People... “And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire. And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame than with two feet to be thrown into hell. And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into hell, ‘where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.’”
We seem to have lots of politicians, businessmen, etc that could use some therapy right here in the USA!
Stephen B or the death penalty
Stephen B pizza gate
like Joe Biden.
Stephen B ok and what does that have to do with what this video is talking about?? How did your mind relate pedophiles to business men and politicians...?
..If you want to talk politics then go to a politic based video.... stupid comment 🤦🏽♀️...
In many countries unfortunately
Man this was a tough one. Ultimately, I think my take away is that prevention methods for CSA is better than reactionary methods. Prevention puts the safety of children first, and stigmatization ultimately results in more children hurt.
They should not have kicked that 15 year old out of school. That can obviously cause feelings of isolation and rejection and betrayal of trust in that child who will go on to become a minor attracted adult. That kid wanted help and they slammed a door in his face.
Pedophilia will never be compatible with a safe and functioning society. I just hope for a day in which we know more about these disorders and can actually help these people.
We already can help these people. We just need more resources and less stigma.
From a humble thought. Two things, one is being attracted because u r not used to be around girls (closed society) this will wreck your sexual attraction to even being attracted to guys.. other that if u r in a healthy society i dont really know an explanation
@@3rdalbum
What? For real, I don't understand what you are doing
@@unknownsoul4647 wtf are you babbling about
@@Zero_Punch the only solution is decapitation
No. I don't care if they've never touched a kid. They don't get to work in a preschool!!! I'm an alcoholic, opiate and crack addict and I would never work in a bar!!! Anybody who knows how sick they are, stays away from the temptation. For him to say he should be able to work around kids shows me he has no idea how sick he is. He thinks he's under his own control. He thinks he's ok. That makes him even more dangerous! Every time I've thought I had my addictions under control, thinking nothing can ever take me back out, that's when I've relapsed. At least my addiction only kills me. His sickness ruins kids! Keep him away!!!!!
That's like saying straight men can't work around women tho. Because men can't control their urges?.
@@jamelbruu2482 Pedophilia is a sickness, not a sexual orientation. The comparison you made doesn't work. Try again.
@@AnitaRUFP3 How is that not a valid comparison? The fact that's it's a sickness is irrelevant.
By your logic, straight men shouldn't work around women because there is a risk of them acting on their sexual urges.
@@jamelbruu2482 That's a reach. Pedophiles would be more likely to sexually abuse the children they work around as it's the only way they could get around children without being suspicious + they would have authority over them making the children not think anything of their actions. And the fact that it is a sickness is very relevant. A heterosexual man who is not sick in the head wouldn't sexually assault his colleagues. While a pedo who is sick in the head by default would sexually abuse the children they work around. If a heterosexual man is fantasising about raping women, then he is sick in the head and therefore shouldn't be allowed to work around women.
@@user-uk5hc6ce8e I don't think these people fantasize about "raping" children per say. But yeah you right about the authority part.
As long as they don't act upon their urges, they're fine on my book.
nah, kill them too
I must admit that I do feel sorry for people like this. They have done nothing wrong but are forced to live with these sexual urges towards children, which they have no control over. There are probably a lot of people like this, attracted to children but never committed any actual crimes, but are too scared to get help due to the risk of being reported to the police, being found out and disowned by their friends and family and being made an outcast in society.
I know it's sucks, it's like people think just being a pedophile alone makes you a evil person.
@@robertkenny1201 Yes, and people think every pedophile will molest children.
You're sympathizing with those who can't feel sympathy lol it's like the same for psychopaths don't waste your emotions on them.
@@umbrellaunderdog but you know what's funny, different countries have different laws about what age constitutes to a child
@@Sammie551 I'm aware
Yeah I don’t get the downvotes. Real information, difficult or not, is real information
David Badiola probably cause of the subject. But definitely is informative.
Is informativ but scary just look at the history of gays:first persecuted then considerated mentally ill now "integrated in society"(for gays is ok and pedos i will stop in the middle but its look scary)
@@alexandrub8786
Homosexual intercourse is supposed to be beetwen two consenting adults, Pedophilia is NOT THAT.
@dante odinson
And what the hell do you care about ''nature'' ? Earth is overpopulated, human waste and our polution is disrupting the climate and ruining the environment and we have other hundreds of conflicts in our on societies such as civil war, politics, racism etc.
Homosexuality is NOT a fucking problem unless you're a close minded idiot.
MAGA and Kremlin trolls brigade news sources that dare to criticize Drumpf.
Vice is one of them.
This is not a "sexual orientation" it's a sickness.
@@KingArthur13th Being part of the LGBT+ is not the same as being a pedo. A child does not have the sense of maturity to understand why a grown ass adult is touching them or why they have these types of feeling for them. I understand what you are saying but I'd rather be a bigot then to have someone ever lay a hand on my child for there own sexual satisfaction.
Lol honey it is both. There is intersection, like a Venn diagram. That's literally the point of the doc.
@@MelBazan "call me a bigot but" smh...
@@amad8466 No they don't point that out in this video. In FACT they never make the same comparison to the LGBT+ community. They relate a pedo to a drug addict. Maybe you should rewatch it again.
@@MelBazan Okay, sorry if I misunderstood. Omitting the leading ideas of the video... Would you like to share your ideas around this?
It’s makes you wonder how many people around you in real life are actually like this “not acting on it”
Also makes you wonder how many people accused of this aren't pedophiles or even bad people in the slightest...
i guess it's fair to treat them but there's the issue of child pornography for "non offenders". Would they consider themselves not offending for simply viewing the pornography or do they understand that they can't view it because it harms children in the process? does chemically castrating them take care of that issue?
as someone that sexually assaulted when I was kid it hard for me to watch this but I do feel like they should get the help they need and be treated for there problems out
Yes...but then why do they seek work in child care?
Well I'm glad you feel like that because I think that if they lay a finger on a child they should get a bullet through their head.
@Soumyakanti Panda It's not a matter of right and wrong, Americans or Canadians or the Chinese. It's a matter of survival.
When sex acts are performed on children it damages them and they are less likely to thrive as adults. Addiction, instability and suicide are common among people who have been molested.
This is about the survival of our species. All animals defend their young against predators. It's their right.
are you saying you sexually assaulted or were sexually assaulted?
@Soumyakanti Panda
That's exactly why 9/11 wasn't enough.
that ad could save a child from being abused in the first place,
“ so you could work in a school with kids and not be a risk?” “Yes it’s about mind control “
WRONG….
One of the biggest rules in not offending is to NOT put yourself in high risk situations. It’s called establishment of external controls.
💯exactly.
I would say it’s more likely a paraphilia, not a sexual orientation.
@Saeed B.Just because it's a part of sexual orientation doesn't mean it's a normal one. And seeing pedophiles as monsters is just as ignorant.
@Saeed B. you implied that peadophilia in general is bad.
Andrew M I wasn’t familiar with that particular study before looking it up just now, but from what I’ve read, it seems that that particular study was conducted based on 52 participants who were prior sexual offenders. If this is not the study you are referring to, or if I am mistaken, please refer me to what you are referencing. As someone with a degree in abnormal psychology, and also a victim of child sexual abuse, this is a subject that has always been of particular interest to me. However, I have never come across any literature that has suggested that the rate of attraction to children among males is anywhere near that high.
Andrew M most men aren’t attracted to children because there isn’t an evolutionary benefit to it .
Andrew M Wtf Thats weird because im 20 and abosultely NOT attracted to prebuscent childs.
Wtf
I was sexually abused as a child. The abuse lasted for years. I support mental health care for people who recognise they have a desire to molest but know it's wrong. Saying paedophiles should be killed is stupid, selfish and overly simplistic. It's obviously not going to happen and shouldn't happen to those who want help to prevent themselves causing pain. Most people would rather be angry and self-righteous than actually do anything to help reduce the number of kids who are victims. In order to actually reduce molestations, you have to treat people before they act. Saying you want to kill them only makes them go underground where they cannot get help. You're keeping the cycle of abuse going if you oppose therapy for people with these urges. It's a difficult subject but one everyone needs to be informed about. If people with these urges could get treatment without fear of violence or discrimination, we would see sex crimes against children drop. Obviously no one with those feelings should be around children, and I agree with proposals to ban them from certain types of employment where they would supervise kids.
Why r u defending them😂👌👌 I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree
@@strudutivesimm8435 Did you watch the video? 1% of the population are born with this sexual orientation that they didn’t choose. What if your own child was born this way and told you? Would you kill them?
@@Anonymous-md2qp imagine defending pedos bruh
@@Anonymous-md2qp I would put them in jail
@@strudutivesimm8435 You cannot put your own child in jail who hasn’t committed a crime. Seriously, take a moment to think about this scenario in your head. How would you put a completely innocent person, especially your own child, in jail?
Why aren't people who torture animals like slaughter them alive at the dog and cat festival , shamed as much as people who haven't even committed a crime but have a fucked up sexual attraction and are working to fix it?
It's because we're irrational creatures, people don't want to think about it plus it's a primitive desire to protect children so that's also in play here.
cause their animals? and they're not mentally ill but it's actually their fetish?
@@gary7867 How do you know that?
@@robertkenny1201 they ended up sexting on children in online forums, and probably ended up actually doing the crime.
@@gary7867 How do you know that? Where did you get that information send me a link? In any case some people are born like this, you don't deserve to die just for having these thoughts alone.
Lost me at pedophilia being a sexual orientation. Mark my words this will be normalized next!!
always been normal, only not in today's snowflake society
It won't be normalized but some people will try. It's a mental illness that should be treated, not a sexual orientation that should be treated like any other one
Even if you don't want it "normalized", it may already be an extremely common condition, just commonly closeted due to the massive stigma
They need to get help but pedophilia isn’t a sexual orientation! Children can’t consent!
They’re obviously not saying that it’s okay to sexualize children they’re saying the the idea of being attracted to children is the same as a man being attracted to a woman
Whether the object of interest can consent is not determinant.
Ninjaananas lol what??? First of all, object? It’s a person. A child for that matter. There’s no argument about it, a child cannot consent.
Jose Salinas man it’s crazy to me that there are people like you in the world who sit here and defend it with stupid comments like that. I live in America for a reason. It’s disgusting. No matter how you look at it. A child can’t consent and anyone who thinks otherwise needs a bullet in the head.
@Jamilla Dobson no. Many genuinely don't like being like this. Your brash assumption is very harmful for children everywhere
Yes. Please take my tax money for prevention. I am very much okay with coming up with solutions for those brave enough to try to find solutions with us.
I feel bad for David. You can hear the sadness and worries in his voice. I wanna give him a hug and get him help and support.
Pedaphilia is allowed in San Antonio
@@viberecord3323 pedo troll 😈
It's about time that somebody in this cold, cruel world reached out to the most outcast and darkest members of our society. I can only imagine how horrible it must be to have those kinds of desires with nobody to talk to about them for fear of becoming a pariah.
Fr. I'm a child and hate offending pedos but feel so bad for ones that know it's wrong and don't wanna act on the urge. I have bad urges too (not sexual or related to kids) so it's easier for me to empathize.
LOL You can't rehabilitate them they're like psychopaths. Giving them sympathy to those who can't give it back is a waste of time.
@@umbrellaunderdog ??? you say that like every pedophile wants to act on their urges. there are plenty that know its wrong and dont let themselves around children because they dont want to hurt them. youre obviously the one who cant give sympathy back.
I am a non offending one and yes it sucks I can't get help
@@Fabian-kv9tw please try. I'd hate for you to hurt someone. There are therapists that will understand
this was really uncomfortable but informative
why exactly was it uncomfortable?
@@Vzxee it's blunt facts.
pedophiles are people and deserve help, but it's kind of an unsettling subject
@@rorynator7567 true
@@rorynator7567 the help: shot in the head
It shouldn’t... I’m a 15 yo teen and I totally understand their position and you should feel sad for them seriously because the people who are uncomfortable with them is the persons who push them to isolation and to commit abuses
if we prevent a pedophile before the fact, a child can be saved. if we punish a pedophile after the fact, a child has to be hurt first. preventative measures is what makes sense to help the most children.
but pedophiles should not work around children at all.
💯 very well said
I agree that pedos should not work with children. just as we ban offenders from doing so, it probably makes sense to preemptively ban nonoffenders - the problem would be determining the thresholds for that. Because i'm not sure it makes sense to discourage these nonoffending people from speaking up for fear of losing their jobs or no longer being able to go to the park or something. they'll just keep it to themselves then when they really should be erring on the side of seeking treatment. and how are they being diagnosed? does a single random thought qualify? aren't we relying on them to self-report? jumping to automatic bans can be just as problematic as jumping to "kill them all"
@@braesidebikes4344 I definitely agree. Our society has a way of demonizing groups of people unfamiliar to them. The sentiment shared among people in my country (the U.S.) is generally that pedophiles should be immediately murdered. For this reason, of course no pedophiles would want to reach out for treatment because they would surely be ostracized or maimed. The same could be said for drug addicts. The stigma is so strong, people I personally know continue their addictions in silence because they would rather that than be branded an addict. Of course, anyone who would seriously harm a child is clearly unfit for our society and lacks the proper judgement that we expect for one another. That said, a person with a kind heart my have a shot at a normal life if we invested more time and energy toward tackling this problem before it hurt a child. Basically, I agree with you. Sorry for the wall of text lol
I live in the us too and I doNt think people generally agree that pedos should be murder. Murder is still illegal here
it's really hard to offer help when many pedophiles are secretly offending. I read a study on no contact offenders saying they've never touched a child, but after building trust with a therapist for months, they've admitted to traumatizing many kids. I felt sympathy for pedos before due to how taboo it is to properly discuss their issues but, I haven't been the same since finding out about this. It's truly sad.
I can understand what u mean, but there are definetly ones who didnt abuse anyone, and ones who may woudlnt have abuse children, if they got help (earlier).
Crime rates are directly tied to society, crimestatistics are like a fingerprint, and the whole society, has a form of Responsibility for their own crime profil.
Offering more help instead hate will decrease the amount of child abuse, that is what we know so far, so going that way even if it might be hard at first, is the way we all should go
This, I would never wish on my worst enemy. I’m unfortunately cursed with this sickness it started in my late teens and has gotten worse. I’ve attempted suicide numerous times and I’m close to going through with it as getting help is not easy. I live in the states and as the documentary states it’s hard due to laws and the stigma behind it. And no I’ve never acted out on my urges but I’m afraid one day I will. I’ve been searching and searching all I’ve rate internet for answers but… it seems hopeless at this point.
@Karsten Fohler on my own I’ve been to therapies and gotten medicine but for depression and adhd and bipolar only. I never mention this because I’m afraid of what will happen.
@Karsten Fohler wow thank you so much, I’m sure this will help. I will check both out, thank you so much for this info!!
U deserve all the support, help, love and respect u can get. I’m here for u. U realize this is a problem and u want help, that shows that u are a good person. Don’t allow this evil inside ur head or any judgemental assholes make u feel any less than other ppl.
Tough issue... One thing's for sure. Pushing someone away who is asking for help will not be of use to anybody.
ATTENTION! There is a New Group; a new Faction, called MAP:
While i have respect for those that realize they are deeply sick and need to be trated, for their own good and the good of Children, and have not much to say in this comment about actual s-offenders, not enough know that a new (negative) Thing starts to show up: Those that accept they are Pedo's BUT do not find it bad.
MAP tried to lower the age of consent, tries to argue bullfluff and is just overall being very d-gusting. Please do inform yourself, so we might all get it right in the End: Being a pedo is objectively negative, but not a conagous Evilness that you just have to surrender to. Both facts are important to know.
@@marystapleton4858 because how do we know who they are?
@@slevinchannel7589 funny how people used to think the Same about the lgbt community
It’s a sick sad situation all around. I was watching a segment where a teenager said told his parents that he was attracted to little children and wanted to seek help because he knew it was not “normal” The medical system as it is now is not set up to handle this. Many psychs refused to help.
Very common story unfortunately. I know of one 18-year-old who asked his parents to find a counsellor for him, without saying why. After he told the counsellor that he was a non-offending pedophile, she immediately left the room and broke doctor-patient confidentiality to tell his parents.
Some counsellors and psychologists have phoned the police, under the mistaken impression that they were required to by law.
It's no wonder these individuals are scared and reluctant to get help and support. Fortunately things are starting to improve, with organisations who can refer pedophiles to therapists who specialise in this, and some counsellors running online sessions.
But if you are a professional, there are dangers for you too. You could be attacked by vigilantes. One counsellor I used to know was targetted by online trolls who called CPS on her. It's a terrible situation and I thank Vice for dealing with this topic sensibly.
@@3rdalbum welp, I mean thats how the world works right? Once you do this thing or that, people will think suspicious things or talk bad things abt you. I just hope one day people will have a better understanding not just towards pedophiles, but to other people with mental health struggles
Was that on Dr. Phil?
If they refuse to unite families they'll refuse help altogether
That's so sad and it really needs to change asap
Its not a sexual orientation..its from some kind of trauma…there is no way nothing happened in their childhood that made them like this
I agree, I think it is trauma related, perhaps from the death of parents
I was sexually abused throughout my entire childhood. It started at an extremely young age from a immediate family member. If society offered some sort of help or diversion for these types of people from the very start of them self admitting or showing signs and symptoms of pedophilia i wholeheartedly believe that i wouldnt have had my entire childhood stolen from me. I wouldnt have to spend the entire rest of my life picking up the tiny pieces of myself and trying to put them back together again so i am able to somehow attempt to live my life as an adult now in what little bit of normalcy i am able to come up with by studying and emulating adult women that havent been violently and inhumanly torn apart at the seams by their father. Sexual abuse has taken every damn thing away from me in regards to having a lasting and functioning relationship with a man. Trusting people. God there isnt a single thing in my life the abuse hasnt ruined for me. Society needs to make changes regarding how to deal with these people immediately so it stops destroying people.
Dang, sorry to hear that happened to you
You should have wore appropriate clothes
@@IndianCurrycelshame on you!
@@MadlyParrot5345Nope it’s true. God commands women to dress modestly
@@IndianCurrycelGod also doesn’t like it when you use his words to insult women. But of course you call yourself the king of virgins so who am I to judge.
People who are homicidal, and those who have pedophilia that work their hardest to suppress their desires and seek help have my upmost respect. I can’t imagine living life everyday with those distressing those urges
exactly. not to conflate that with sympathy for those who do though- as soon as that line is crossed i cease to have any respect for the person. but having to battle such disgusting urges full well knowing how awful they are, on top of the shame truly must be really hard to do. i hope there is some sort of “cure” or effective treatment in the future.
And that's why you're cool, Lauren.
@@wolfbones666 Thank you, I appreciate that
@@finnegan728 Yeah I agree except that I’ll admit I actually do struggle with too much sympathy for people I shouldn’t though. As soon as I hear someone’s sob story I just feel so bad even if they’ve done things that should make me despise them, and that makes me easily manipulated. I wish there was a cure as well, along with all mental health problems but for now I hope we as a society start recognizing that people’s desires aren’t their actions.
Appreciate your comment. 😃
It’s sad because none of them chose this type of attraction. It would be the worst ever secret.
@@misterminutes4504 doesnt really matter who you claim they are part of yall since they aint straight
@@misterminutes4504 straight is not being attracted to little girls its for grown women. So since they dont fit into that thyre lgbtq since everything except straights are part of that.
@@ew264 I want you to define what a sexuality is cause what you said surely isn’t. It’s like how Jeffrey Damher only liked boys and didn’t attack any girls except it’s straight, There are a lot of sexualities but liking children isn’t a sexuality s o therefore they aren’t apart of the LGBTQ+ community
@@dmoncxild3440 there is currently a sexuality in the lgbtq community which is about being attracted to old people so being attracted to young people isnt any different. Just accept theyre part of yall its not like anyone in that community is a saint anyway.
@@ew264 Lol are you talking about “Maps” they’re just pedophiles, they aren’t even in the community neither are they accepted in the community
Prevention is always better than cure. If only we could for once listen and stop trying to hang them the moment they try asking for help
3:50 nobody chooses this. But we can control our urges.
Yes. If straight people or gay people can choose to be celibate, why can’t they, right?
@@UnknownGodOfCelestia you are a slave to your desires
@@UnknownGodOfCelestia Except pedophilia involves minors, who should be protected at all costs. It’s disgusting when people try to compare pedophiles to homosexuality. They are not the same.
@@MadlyParrot5345 I think you have no fking clue what he was saying. Stop trying.
@@mikem7046make me
As someone who was molested as a kid, i just wish that these people are kept as far away from kids as possible. I've got so many phobias now that affect my everyday life. It really fucks you up for life.
@dennny sen wdym
I am so sorry to what happened to you as a kid, is also disgusting how ppl say is ok for phedos to say is ok if they think about children if they dont do the act like wtf?
@@mg9551 We aren't saying that though... We're saying that they should be able to get therapy so that we can prevent abuse from happening.
I just ended a relationship with a woman with similar background. What phobias do you have?
maybe if the one that abused you, had the option of going to therapy long before the fact, you would have never had such a terrible experience. I understand your anger and im very sorry for what happened, but we need to think about how to do something for real instead of fueling anger. Im not sympathizing with pedophiles but im saying that everyone, that didn't commit a crime can be reformed. I don't sympathize with neo-nazis, but i see that some of them (not everyone of course), with help, showing them that the world is not all hate and violence, can be reformed into normal and functioning human beings.
Honestly I feel sorry for these people. Clearly they want help to get better and instead of ostracizing them we as a society should help them get the treatment they need just like any other mental illness before they become actual offenders.
If they were saying “I need help with homocidal thoughts” no one would bat an eye.
Yeah I agree. On the other hand though, I think it's pretty understandable why people would rather stay away from them. If I had children, even if this person had said they wouldn't touch them, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near them. And that's the hardest part about it.
@@WariorKitty Well that's understandable. But what does that have to do with not providing them with any treatment?
baverfjant What is the treatment? There is nothing that will actually stop them from having their urges. It’s like anything else. They can’t help it.
Nituraa castration?
I was thinking about if there were pedophiles who were ashamed of there attractions about a year a go, thanks for answering my question and for informing people of this
We shouldn't hate them if they didn't offend and want therapy. Most of the time they have been developmentally screwed up, including having been sexually abused themselves, to end up like this. We need to have care for those of them who take responsibility.
Wrong, even if they don't offend, if they create content depicting it, consume content that depicts it or just have thoughts of attraction towards it, they should be put down/locked up.
this is a pretty balanced and calm report from vice. nice
No one asked you
@@no.8466 the founder of vice? I think the thing with pedophiles is you cant tell by looking at someone. Doctors, actors, teachers of all levels, swim coaches, electricians, literally anyone could be a pedophile and no one will know unless they commit the crime
Jesus saw that no one has to.
thats because they want to normalize this..... following the deep state agenda.
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These people have the right to receive mental help, but bra, there isn't a chance in hell it should be okay for you to work around children. That's like a person with a history of drug abuse asking to be in control of the Methodone in a drug treatment program. Yeah, no. It's just not reasonable. I saw that slight hesitation in that guy, I'm sure he knows that's not something that will work either.
Oh, I completely agree with you, especially for people whose primary sexual attraction is to children. I just hope that you also support profiling in other extremely high-stakes contexts.
For the last guy they interviewed I understand where he’s coming from because just like men and women are attracted to each other they still work in the same work together but when it comes to children they don’t understand how adults think yet. they don’t know how to defend themselves like an adult would if someone were to touch them. Hell no you shouldn’t work around children
Children *are not* a gender, we shouldn't be justifying them and saying it's a sexual orientation.
@zxcvbnm I'm asexual.
@zxcvbnm wtf
@Mike M Stay away from children
Yeah. I agree. That doest make sense. Orientation is towards gender. With that arguement i could that being atracted to asains is my orientation.... or. My orientation is oriental..... ill see myself out
@@alexhutchins5545 How d(u)mb are you? I could also come back with "Adult is not a gender." Gender means male and female, boys and girls (and trans). Is that not what it mean?
The interviewer is literally me lmao, trying to understand but deep down I'm like nah I'm good fam
I feel the same. Like he was all about treating as a mental illness but retracted when the doctor called it a orientation
@@matthewarnold4557 I think he called it an orientation to convey that it can't be changed. Mental illness you can treat, but this isn't that.
@Climate Fails That's a good point, I overlooked that. Even so, I'm not sure it would qualify as a disorder - the problem with it is that children can't consent, there's not anything innate about being attracted to children that means your brain can't function or that causes you suffering.
i feel the same way towards trans ppl yet ppl wanna say thats bigoted
Good for you ig?
It boils down to this: Are we going to keep letting our disgust and moral outrage against pedophiles get in the way of actually preventing the abuse of children?
My disgust and moral outrage against pedophiles WILL protect my children. Tf.
@@richrosegold610 no. No it won’t. Socially barring pedophiles from ever emerging to seek help before they offend makes the world ever more hostile for your children. No amount of anger and outrage will put out a growing fire. Stomping your foot is just childish.
It boils down to this: normal people advocating for desth sentence, and too tolerant people trying to force human rights onto a flea.
@@bbgun9076 I bet you have 3 hard drives full
@@RMED24 ? Full of what? I have one full of shooters and space sims, yes. And I don't even have the third drive.
people don't realize that this is a bad Spirit or a demon. That enters them from watching an excessive amount of porn.. after a while they get desensitize and regular porn isn't interesting so they have to pick it up a notch. Anything you overdo will destroy you. A drink isn't bad for Taste but there's some people who are alcoholics and ruin their lives and everyone around them. The same goes for gambling addiction. I have no sympathy for these people. People have emptiness in their life and don't know how to fill it. When people find Jesus Christ these demons are gone.
Least brainwashed American christian
I have sympathy because they are lost and need Jesus, lest the world repents likewise perish. Abuse can spread and create a demonic infuence, this is a spiritual warfare and it saddens me to see the mental sickness it creates, some of these people are survivors of grooming and abuse themselves.
@@EvilCannotDefeatJesus yes I guess you're right we should feel bad for the people who are struggling with this and never will actually go through with it. Because it is a bad spirit brought on by abuse and other things. but for the people who actually hurt little children are the worst and the most disgusting offenders. Even in prison they have to have their own area so the other inmates won't attack them. The ones who go true with it and satisfy their demons, I have no sympathy for them. I do not want them to go to hell,, or anyone. I just mean they deserve what they get on this Earth.
Yeah a rare W for vice, yes they’re weirdos but they recognized it and taught help before they acted. That’s very brave
I mean this in the most serious way possible, despite the comedic origin. Comedian Bill Burr once said something along the lines of “Everyone should chase their dreams, except for pedophiles that want to work in a daycare.” It’s just true, if you recognize you have feelings you shouldn’t have, avoid the trigger. I can’t relate, but like an allergy, avoid the source that leads to an undesirable outcome.
Agreed! Absolutely seek help, but stay away from your toxic temptations ...
@@XMarx-it1yj That's the point... they are trying to stay away from their temptations
Men work with children all the time- in gymnastics, with scouts, in schools. Th solution is to only employ women where children are concerned.
@@fozzybear8878 women can be pedos too. there are some creepy nuns out there.
@@fozzybear8878 You do realize there's a lot of under-reporting when it comes to female predatory behaviour? Girls and boys, boys especially, are afraid to say they were abused by women because they'd get made fun of and no one would believe them because they believe women can't be pedos/predators. This is a video showing this: ua-cam.com/video/jxqp0Jah_VI/v-deo.html
I have a problem with this. People are asking for help and instead of giving them help, they are shunned and arrested. This is putting kids in more danger. Society talk about mental illness when it is convenient but don't want to do anything about it.
Give them death or your children
I do agree...but you cant blame people who dont want anything to do with these people. Their entire sexual attraction revolves around abuse.
Son Gohan Yeah that’s why we have to get fucking pissed and do something about it.
@Smashing Random Things yours first since you running protection weirdo!
Nituraa
No one is blaming people who are uncomfortable to have their kids around pedos. What OP is saying is that it's counterproductive to lock these people up when they seek help because then potential offenders are gonna see getting help as a one way ticket to an early death or being locked up. We need these people to open up about their illness and seek help so their desires won't win them over. Antagonization of what's unfamiliar to us will only lead us down an even darker part of the rabbit hole.
The crime is child molestation which should be illegal. Pedophilia is a mental health condition where an adult is attracted to prepubescent children which is not a crime. The action is illegal not attraction.
Its not a condition, its a fetish.
@GigaChadh976 How do you know that are you an expert on this?
@@GigaChadh976Nope pedophilia is a mental health condition like ptsd and antisocial personality disorder
@@IndianCurrycelThat is such a sick thing to say. Putting people who have been through trauma in their lives and comparing it to pedos is absolutely disgusting. Shame on you!
@@robertkenny1201Are you an expert?
This is a very delicate topic concerning pedophiles and child molesters.
I believe there should be "Medical Centers" where pedophiles (who are sexually attracted to children)
can get treatment without having to go to jail.
Child molesters should be in jail and once time served under a 24 hour observance for life.
Pedophiles are sexually attracted to children and watch child porn, but that doesn't make them a child molester.
Child molesters actually commited a sexual crime on an innocent child.
Saying that pedophiles are child molesters is like saying a person who likes to watch killings on videos and films
are killers.
I would prefer that a pedophile only sticks to toonophilic, artistic or written ways of expressing these attractions, I've studied japanese culture and noticed how since 2014 the numbers of caught cases of child molestation has vastly decreased.
In the year 2014 they've officially made child pornography federally criminalized, there's misconceptions about this topic either because of xenophobia or because of what the topic is i.e. about pedophiles.
As I seen allowing people to express these desires through total fiction is another method to help reduce victimization of children in my opinion. I also believe it should be done through a case by case bases on what methods should be achieved, if erotic stimulus doesn't help the individual in question then instead should they opt for sex drive reductions and other such procedural measures.
Chemical castration
Many pedophiles don't watch child porn
This was such an uncomfortable watch Every bone in my body is screaming NOOOOOOOOOOO
But then my brain just like I mean it technically makes sense you should listen to others experiences
I believe treating it a mental illness is a step in the right direction.
Congrats you've used your head more than an alarmingly large portion of the commenters on this video.
But yeah, it's easy to think with emotions and just get mad/uncomfortable because the subject matter is about pedophilia, it's much harder to be pragmatic about it.
The next step is pushing for these services to be provided in our home countries.
@@matthewarnold4557 its not a mental illness pedophiles have chemical imbalances in their brain, hence why it even happens in the first place.
@@tylermcmahon8157 I thought most mental illnesses were due to chemical imbalances in the brain?
Tyler McMahon “it’s not a mental illness they have chemical imbalances in their brain”
So... like a mental illness? 😂
why are people disliking this informative video? We need to like these videos so Vice understands that we do not want biased political news but what the old Vice gave ( unbiased and informative news)
Its probably the people who say we should kill them all.
some poeple like or dislike videos based on the content itself. so videos like these get alot of dislike since alot of people dislike this practice.
Naganachiketh Chinnamuttevi WE DO NOT WANT POLITICALLY CORRECT PEDOPHILE CULTURE THAT NORMALIZES THE THOUGHT OF RAPING AND DEFILING CHILDREN !!!!!
Becose this normalizes pedofilia and even makes them victims (and they are in a way) but we can not allow ourselfs to threat them like anny other sexual group becose a child can never consent.
@@smokymountainangoras The thought is not normalized. They state that this needs to be caught before they act without being judged. Your comment is basically saying all who fantasize about killing should be killed instead of helped. I agree, they should NEVER be allowed to act on these urges (and if they do, they need to be punished), but they should not be killed or eradicated because that would be to kill an innocent human. I would not say that it would ever be OK to have them work around children but you cannot ignore that they are seeking help instead of acting on these urges. I will say, relying on the patients for their statistics is insanity according to me.
I'm very surprised the comments still exist on this video. All I gotta say is, as a father, I would end someone's life that had intentions like that towards her. Children have so much taken away from them on a daily basis, no one has any right to take their innocence away. It's the most heinous sin in my eyes, the loss of innocence is unacceptable and irredeemable.
I believe there is a line between prevention and punishment. All people with these tendencies should be prevented, with measures such as isolation, surgery, etc…Punishment should be reserved for those who have already acted upon it. We shouldn’t let our anger get in the way of the solution to this problem.
So isolation isn’t punishment?
@@nostaIgiaholic I was meaning for the people who say they should be prosecuted and put into prison or executed. Prison these days are just as much for punishment as they are for containment of inmates from society. I am only saying that is not necessary.
@@wandering2320 being put in prison is a punishment.
Were u in quarantine? Havr u seen what a few days to weeks locked in your own house can do to you?
Know imagine being locked into a small cell. Of course its a punishment, your freedom and autonomy gets taken away. And as long as someone hasnt done anything wrong, they shouldnt be punished like that.
You need intervention, but if they’re caught the punishment needs to be severe.
"if they’re caught". if they’re caught doing what?
They should not be allowed to "get caught", they should be given NO opportunity to abuse a child in any way. This needs to be prevented at all cost by treating whatever is wrong with their brains and by always keeping an eye on them, always tracking their moves somehow to know for sure what they have and have not done. How many child rapists do you think will admit to what they did? I think not many.
its sad because a lot of pedos were abused by other pedos as a kid.
Without them knowing the pedos did as a kid?
Eh that’s not really true actually
@@luciuspaullus1948 According to you it may not be, but I differ with that.
@@luciuspaullus1948 Some phedos did not do anything inappropriate because either their startled or aren't that sickening, but just implied affection or hugged kids.
@Mike M is that copy pasta
I’m only mad at someone who has instigated and acted upon their urges. I’m not mad at those that have sought help for their illness. It’s a fine line but as long as you haven’t harmed a child I’m happy for you to seek help willingly.
Some people have this kind of attraction and choose to suppress it because they know it's wrong. In America there is no help or support for these people, they just have to hide it until they either hurt someone or commit suicide. In Europe there are support organizations for these people to help them deal with their problem in a healthy way and the stats show that they're less likely to hurt someone if they are able to get the support they need.
Isn't pedophilia the attraction not the act? Like I've never heard someone being charged with pedophilia but with child molestation or possession of child pornography. I just think most crime is just reactionary rather than preventive.
Most crime IS just reactionary rather than preventative. You're absolutely right lol.
Why all the dislikes? This is pretty good information.
david eakin Most probably Indians offended by recent pro-Pakistan videos posted here.
People who randomly dislike vice videos
Maybe because of stupid reporter.
THIS IS NORMALIZATION OF DEMONIC PERVERSIONS !!!!
Must admit that title is a bit of a click bait.
I appreciate that this man is trying to get help. If he truly hasn’t done anything than I think he should be allowed to want a better life.
People literally dont understand,
so i wanna spread awareness:
S-Offender and Ped0s are not the same thing. They are correlated, but not identical.
Related, but not the same.
Exactly. I am saying that for years now. Most pedophiles never abuse chidlren, and most child abusers arent pedophiles
@@sophiebell4758 Yep
@@sophiebell4758 Tell that to some people in Illuminaughtii's comment-sections please. They need to hear;
even if it's kinda random to be told by a stranger online.
@@sophiebell4758 exactly, my grandpa [mother's side] is a convicted child molester who also happens to be a pedophile which makes cases like mine rare. My mother, aunt and uncle where abused by this man.
Growing up I wasn't ever allowed to be alone with him, never once, the way he acted around me always made me uncomfortable; I seen images of my younger self, with how I looked any pedophile would find that physically attractive. I just want people to understand there's a significant difference between non pedophilic from pedophilic child molesters.
I know it's difficult to deal with trauma but you'll never heal unless you take the time to understand why something had happened no matter how wrong or right that action was. To solve a problem you have to understand it, not skim through it all.