Native American Tribes Toycat. Ottawa is a common name around all of the great lakes because we are the “rice” seeking people. And by rice, I mean grass, but that’s an entirely different tangent. Either way, Ottawa references to the indigenous peoples of the area, so you’ll see it used in US and Canada.
When I've played Star Trek Online -- while progressing through the single-player campaign, you acquire five progressively-larger ships. I've often named mine Ontario, Erie, Huron, Michigan, Superior. It would actually be kind of neat if Starfleet had a class of ships that traditionally take the names of Earth lakes.
To make it even more confusing, the German word for lake is "der See" Sea is called "Meer" or "die See". "See" is one of the few words where the article changes the meaning.
@@MasonGreenWeed Well IJsselmeer is a lake, its water is fresh and it's cut off from the North Sea by the Afsluitdijk (which is in fact incorrectly named as it's actually a dam and not a dyke, but that's not the point now). Before the Afsluitdijk was built, the area of what is now called IJsselmeer was a part of the Zuiderzee. This was a sea with salt water and a direct connection to the North Sea (which in turn has a direct connection to the Atlantic Ocean). So the wording makes sense in Dutch.
@@PkPvre As Lena explained the meaning of "See" depend on the article. "Der See" means "(the) lake" but "die See" means "(the) sea". Therefore "North Sea" is in German "die Nordsee" (with the female article "die") and not "Nordmeer". Therefore there is no problem with "Seehund" because the animal lives along the "Nordsee" coast.
I live in the Upper part of Michigan and it's basically Canada. It's very beautiful though with a lot of forests and rocky cliffs. It was pretty cool seeing towns and places I've actually been in on a UA-cam channel such as yours.
Yup, we had to label all the Great Lakes as part of the curriculum. Which I didn't mind because hey, it gets kids into geography which is a good thing to better understand our planet. Anyway, the reason we've been labeling Michigan and Huron as separate lakes is because of colonial explorers who incorrectly believed each to be separate because of their great size and it kinda just stuck. When in reality, there's a strait that connects them like you said. The Caspian Sea is salty because it's a remnant of the ancient Paratethys Sea. This was part of the Tethys Ocean that existed 50 to 60 million years ago. During that time, the Tethys WAS connected to the Atlantic and the Pacific. But as the continents shifted, the Tethys lost these connections. As it evaporated, the Caspian Sea was formed 30 million years ago, as well as the Aral and Black Seas and Lake Urmia.
At 10:25 you kept interchangably saying "tallest mountain in England" and "tallest mountain in the UK" which are not the same thing. Tallest mountain in the UK is in Scotland and is called Ben Nevis (Beinn Nibheis"
And don't forget about the United States, with it's Great Salt Lake in Utah. WTF would you even call that if salt water made it a sea, the Great Salt Sea? That's kind of misleading. By the standards of seas, it's wouldn't even qualify as a Pretty Good Salt Sea.
@@richardkenan2891 You can't call the lake in Utah "The Salt Sea" because we already have one in California. Technically it's called the "Salton Sea" and was created in the early 1900's when water breached a canal between the Colorado River and Los Angeles, but you still will have to pick a different name for the one in Utah.
14:26 Loch is the Scottish word for fjord (Pronounced 'fior' actually). It means the same thing: "Long, narrow body of water". Many large freshwater lakes in Norway are called fjords as well, although we are not very consistent with it. Some lakes we call seas, some we call ponds, others we just call water... Can't think of any that we actually call lakes 😂 Edit: On second thought, seems like the Scotts will call anything Loch, so long as it was not land... So who knows 🤷♂
Loch is used for lakes and sea inlets, not simply fjords. Sea inlets are often called sea lochs to differentiate them from fresh water lochs. It etymologically comes from same Proto-Indo European word as lake does.
IT IS NOT THE SALTINESS THAT LEADS TO THE DEBATE AROUND THE CASPIAN SEA, it is how it was formed. It was formed from continental crust moving around the ocean- it has oceanic crust under it. This is generally not true for lakes.
I live on lake superior. It looks like an ocean when you’re on it, we interact with it like an ocean and it can be dangerous like the ocean. it’s quite insane to think about how it’s a lake, but it’s so immense. We also like to forget about the caspian sea and call superior the biggest lake in the world
I was stationed at KI Sawyer, and use to love driving along the shore of Superior. It's an absolutely beautiful body of water, but it can get extremely rough. I never got to go out on it in a boat, but I have been out on lake Michigan many times. I always thought it was way murkier than Superior though. All the great lakes are impressive, but Superior is by far the most beautiful in my opinion.
Michigander here. Love seeing the attention shown to the Great Lakes here. Regarding one of your questions, the Ottawa national forest and the city of Ottowa are both named after the Ottowa Indian tribe. (We also have an Ottowa county on the west side of the state)
Yeah "Ottawa" is an English corruption of the word "Ojibwe" which was one of the names of the Algonquin tribes living in the region. Given that the Algonquin spread across a pretty large area (and went through multiple displacements), it makes sense that the name Ottawa is found across a pretty vast section of the Great Lakes region. Ohio also has an Ottawa county near Lake Erie.
@@jonathanbowers8964 My understanding has always been that the origin of the word "Ottawa" was from the Algonquin word for "trade" (adawe) and a name that the indigenous people used to describe themselves. The "corruption" of Ojibwe you may be thinking of might be "Chippewa"
Actually all of the Great Lakes connect so would you count the Great Lakes as one? What would the name be. Also would they be called sea since they connect to the Gulf of Maine?
The critical factor is that Huron and Michigan are at the same surface elevation above mean sea level, whereas Superior is at a higher surface elevation and Erie and Ontario are each successively lower above msl than Huron-Michigan.
No, lake Michigan and Huron are the same lake. It's just that politically, each side has its own name. Lake Superior is connected to lake Huron via River. To be a lake, the two bodies of water can't flow into each other. There is an elevation difference between Superior and Huron. The same can be said about all of the other Great lakes, besides michigan-huron.
Like how England is called a "country", which it isn't if we go by the definition that a country is a sovereign state. Because honestly, why of all the actual proper countries of the world; why is UK the only one divided up into more counties? Why no other country? How would you even define "country" so it includes sovereign states and the four specific divisions of the UK?
To be a lake with fresh water it must be at a higher altitude than sea level and have a channel that takes the water to the sea. All interior lakes that have no outlet to the sea will become salty because evaporation and rainfall is the only thing that determines to area of the lake and it will become salty. Freshwater lakes are continuously drained and filled by rainfall and /or snowmelt and remain fresh.
Years ago, a shipwreck was discovered at Southampton, Ontario. Actually, 2 ships were found. One was on top of the other. I think they eventually identified one as the Weasel. A ship from Detroit. It was shipwrecked before we settled the area.
I mean we didn't give you a whole word to your language for you to only use that word when referring to geographical features found in our country, what would then be the use of that word. Scotland has fjords, Greenland has fjords, Chile has fjords, New Zealand has fjords. Get it right damned Brits(and I am dedicating this criticism to the wikipedia page of Loch Hourn, not poor toycat who's just trying to keep up).
16:04 What's ironic is that Ottawa national forest is closer to where the actual Odawa (Ottawa) Native-American tribe lived than the city of Ottawa in Canada.
The biggest "lake" in England isn't a lake, it's a mere, which once also meant sea. "Ottawa" is the anglicized version of an Algonquin word for a place to trade, so there can be lots of ottawas. Besides Ottawa National Forest in Michigan, there's an Ottawa County in northern Ohio outside Toledo, which contains Ottawa National Wildlife Refuge in marshes near Lake Erie, then there's a town in western Ohio, another town in Illinois, and another in Kansas. Probably more.
The problem with the “size by volume” argument is that by that criteria, I could dig a hole 10,000 miles deep and 1 foot wide, fill it to the top with water, and call it the largest lake in the world. Surface area is the best way to determine the size of a lake, because the surface area is what you cross when you cross a lake, not the volume. Comparing it to the population of a city is also a bit silly, seeing as cities have some drastic differences from lakes. that’s my take (:
Also, I believe the separation of Lake Michigan and Lake Huron is because they were discovered separately. This is based on absolutely no research whatsoever so take it with a grain of salt
6:18 it's "HERE-on", which as someone who knows what those letters allegedly do, I find pretty annoying. But that's what we all call it here, and I'm from Michigan, The Great Lakes state so you can appeal to my authority.
For the love of God, Ottawa is a Native American word meaning to trade. A lot of things in the US is named Ottawa. They probably traded furs in that forest with Algonquins there.
It is also the name of a people that lived in the general area, and were known as traders. These trade connections were very influential to the European knowledge of the area as a whole.
When he got confused about the Ottawa National Forest, it was bait. He always does that kind of thing with controversial places or names, joking that someone should explain it in the comments, knowing that it will start a fierce argument. It's part of his brand.
Neagh = Knee 11:43 I...wouldn't say that walking in public if I were you. Didn't have that on my 2022 bingo but it's probably the best thing you've ever said. 0:45 Love how you're jumping in Turkmenistan...probably the closest you'll ever get to actually going to Turkmenistan Technically the Caspian IS connected to an ocean by TWO ways. The first is via the Volga-Don Canal. By traveling north on the Volga from the Caspian, and then taking the canal to the Don, you eventually end up at the Black Sea by traveling southwest on the Don towards the Sea of Azov. The second way is if you travel north on the Volga, just northwest of Yaroslavl you end up at the Rybinsk Reservoir. Then from the Rybinsk Reservoir and you go north on the Volga-Baltic Waterway, you end up at Lake Beloye and Lake Onega. Then from Lake Onega, you go west on the Svir River and end up at Lake Ladoga. Finally from Ladoga, you go west on the Neva River...the river that cuts through St. Petersburg
Fun fact, the Mackinac(pronounce mackinaw) Bridge, the bridge that connects the Upper and Lower Peninsulas of Michigan, was not built until the 60s, and before that people had to ride on a barge across the strait.
8:13 It is named after the Native Tribe, Ottowa, which is also where the Ottowa River got its name from, which is where the former Bytown, now the Canadian Capital of Ottowa got its name from
6:57 technically all of the Great Lakes are connected with each other by a bit of water between them, and then they are all connected by the river St. Lawrence, so does that mean that the Great Lakes qualify as a gulf too? 🤔
You know, even if you count Lake Michigan-Huron as one lake, at least Lake Superior will have something that no other lake does, and that's being the coolest looking lake in the world.
The names of a lot of places near the Great Lakes are based on the Native American tribes/groups that existed in the area at the time of naming. These obviously didn’t respect current day borders. A lot of of names like Manhattan Mississippi and even Michigan all have Native American origin.
The Ottawa Nat'l Forest in Michigan is named after the Ottawa Indians, a tribe a.k.a. the Odawa,. They lived in the area surrounding Lake Huron. Ottawa, Canada is a reference to the Ottawa River, the name of which is derived from the Algonquin adawe, meaning "to trade". The city's modern name in Algonquin language is Odàwàg. Michiganders pronounce Huron as 'Hue-ron' with stress on the first syllable.
It is also important to mention that (at least the way I have heard it) this is pronounced in a northern accent which shifts the vowels. the "-ron" part is pronounced in the way that the end of Iran is pronounced minus the stress or similar to the word ran in a British accent.
I grew up in Michigan and can remember two distinct pronunciations of "Huron": HYOO-rahn and HYOO-ruhn (which distressingly rhymes with the American pronunciation of "urine"). The Ottawa (or Odawa) are an indigenous ethnic group who settled in various parts of what is now Michigan and southeastern Canada after the 17th century, and who also had settlements in Ohio. In addition to the Ottawa National Forest in the Upper Peninsula, Michigan has an Ottawa County in the Lower Peninsula. Ohio has an Ottawa River (a tributary of the Auglaize River), an Ottawa County, and a town of Ottawa, which is located in Putnam County. There is also an Ottawa River in Canada. For much of its length, it defines the boundary between the provinces of Ontario (where Canada's capital city of Ottawa is located) and Québec.
@@Liggliluff /ˈhjʊɹɑn/ or /ˈhjɝɑn/ in General American, according to Wiktionary. Or are you asking for IPA notation for the two pronunciations I remember?
I've been in the boundary waters, which are a series of tiny lakes right off of some of the great lakes and also are divided between the US and Canada like the Great lakes are (and each lake on the border is divided down the middle the same as the great lakes) and honestly it works fine. They just ask you nicely to not go on the other country's side of the lake unless you filled out the right paperwork, and if you stay overnight (if they choose to check you out) or go somewhere where people actually exist, they'll check to make sure you have the right documentation to be there
Why is Ottawa national forest in Michigan? I dunno. Why is there a Toronto in Ohio? What the hell is Vancouver Oregon/Washington? Oh wait I know this. It's because those are Native "First Nations" North American peoples' words/names and their lands and territories didn't line up perfectly with where borders fell between colonizers after the ([ahem] 9 year long) "7 Years War" (because the English naming stuff, amirite?), and later "War of 1812".
When I look at a map of Scotland it looks like one could sail from Ford William to Inverness, via Loch Ness. Does that technically make northern Scotland a separate island apart from Great Brittain?
As an American, Here is how I remember the Great Lakes, we have six. Ontario has Niagara Falls Erie Caught on Fire Michigan is inside the US Superior is Big and nobody cares about Huron. And also, The Great Salt Lake is the best lake
Ottawa is derived from the Algonquin word "adawe" meaning to trade, so it was a fairly common name in the region. The Algonquin were one of several Anishinaabe peoples living all around the Great Lakes region who shared similar languages and cultures, so the same or a similar word was likely used all over.
As a Michigander, Lake Michigan and Huron are separate, but they are continually one lake. The other Great Lakes are only connected through rivers or locks, so they are separate.
Fun fact, since you were wondering about American national parks in Canada, although not called Washington, there is the Roosevelt Campobello International Park on Campobello Island in New Brunswick, Canada. An island in which only has direct land access to the state of Maine, despite being part of Canada. The park is jointly administered by Parks Canada and the US National Parks Services, each splitting maintenance and costs 50/50.
Any lake with no outlet will be salty, because the salt builds up and never drains out, that’s why the Great Salt Lake, the Dead Sea and the Caspian Sea are salty.
~HOMES ~ (Huron, Ontario, Michigan, Erie, Superior). Straight from my 7th grade geography class. Also, I believe the Ottawa NF is named after the Native American Tribe that lived in the region.
Technically, at least in America, a "lake" is a body of water with at least one water inlet and at least one water outlet, with inlets & outlets being creeks, rivers, streams, bayous, dam spillways, and such. But clearly, not everyone around the world got that memo. Historic names tend to stick, whether they are accurate or not. Whatever.
As someone who lives by the Great Lakes, I'll let you in on a secret. They are all connected, and Lake Ontario is connected to the St. Lawrence River, which I connected to the ocean, so they technically are a fresh water inland sea
3:22 Yes! It will and yes it one was around 6000 years BC and then the wall between the Mediterranean and the Black Sea broke and salt water has been rushing in every since, killing all the sweets water creatures, the rotting of which has made the sea uninhabitable under 200m depth. The Black Sea is less salty (about 18/1000) then the Mediterranean and the ocean.
the original Lockheed corporation was called loughead after the spelling of the founder’s last name, he legally changed his name to Lockheed to avoid confusion.
When you started talking about lakes that aren't lakes anymore I thought you were going to go down the rabbit hole of absolutely giant paleolakes that dwarf anything around now.
The way this man fell into the madness of sea and lake logic as the video progressed is hilarious 🤣
I come here for the manic free association exercises.
"Lake N-word"
Whoopsie! 🤣
Lake Lore
@@Ryaify69 LMAO
That becomes even more fun when you look into multiple languages.
Native American Tribes Toycat. Ottawa is a common name around all of the great lakes because we are the “rice” seeking people. And by rice, I mean grass, but that’s an entirely different tangent. Either way, Ottawa references to the indigenous peoples of the area, so you’ll see it used in US and Canada.
Also, you said Huron correctly exactly once so all other pronunciations before and after that one time are null and void.
@@MemilyLove which pronunciation was the good one?
The second retry at 6:18, pronounced Hueron. You get some confusing pronunciations here in the US
@@marchcross9851 Yeah I can see that, that would have been one of my last options tbf so I am as lost as Soycat
It sounds like "lake you're on" but put more of a stress on you're and put an h sound before it.
"What's up my neeyagus?" -toycat
Lake Superior is huge and definitely seems like the ocean when you look out onto it. It also has a pretty badass name.
And it's taken one to many souls beneath its frigid waters.
Bless those and their families.
Love good ol’ Gichi-Gami. Or if your from Minnesota, you’ll pronounce it Gitchie-Goomie haha.
It looks badass, too!
When I've played Star Trek Online -- while progressing through the single-player campaign, you acquire five progressively-larger ships. I've often named mine Ontario, Erie, Huron, Michigan, Superior. It would actually be kind of neat if Starfleet had a class of ships that traditionally take the names of Earth lakes.
It lives up to its name for sure
According to the wiktionary.
Loch means:
1. lake
2. arm of the sea
3. fjord
To make it even more confusing, the German word for lake is "der See"
Sea is called "Meer" or "die See".
"See" is one of the few words where the article changes the meaning.
Also funny: in Dutch "Meer" means lake and "Zee" = sea , so Germany and Holland basically mixed up the two somehow.
@@Fvandenberg But they still call a zeehond a Seehund, so germans are just clueless.
@@Fvandenberg explain Ijselmeer
@@MasonGreenWeed Well IJsselmeer is a lake, its water is fresh and it's cut off from the North Sea by the Afsluitdijk (which is in fact incorrectly named as it's actually a dam and not a dyke, but that's not the point now). Before the Afsluitdijk was built, the area of what is now called IJsselmeer was a part of the Zuiderzee. This was a sea with salt water and a direct connection to the North Sea (which in turn has a direct connection to the Atlantic Ocean). So the wording makes sense in Dutch.
@@PkPvre As Lena explained the meaning of "See" depend on the article. "Der See" means "(the) lake" but "die See" means "(the) sea". Therefore "North Sea" is in German "die Nordsee" (with the female article "die") and not "Nordmeer". Therefore there is no problem with "Seehund" because the animal lives along the "Nordsee" coast.
I swear I could listen to you speak about any bs for hours, it's so entertaining
^
especially those time to time jokes
I live in the Upper part of Michigan and it's basically Canada. It's very beautiful though with a lot of forests and rocky cliffs. It was pretty cool seeing towns and places I've actually been in on a UA-cam channel such as yours.
ever been to canada.
edit: wasnt saying you arent right, was just asking because i live in canada and its pretty cool here.
@@walterhartwellwhite7324 I've been to both and I'd have to agree. Some parts are very similar, at least superficially
@@walterhartwellwhite7324 Yep. I lived in Ontario for three years.
@@LunarVortex_1 oh nice
@@Aleblood i would love to go back to the usa. i have only been once
Yup, we had to label all the Great Lakes as part of the curriculum. Which I didn't mind because hey, it gets kids into geography which is a good thing to better understand our planet. Anyway, the reason we've been labeling Michigan and Huron as separate lakes is because of colonial explorers who incorrectly believed each to be separate because of their great size and it kinda just stuck. When in reality, there's a strait that connects them like you said.
The Caspian Sea is salty because it's a remnant of the ancient Paratethys Sea. This was part of the Tethys Ocean that existed 50 to 60 million years ago. During that time, the Tethys WAS connected to the Atlantic and the Pacific. But as the continents shifted, the Tethys lost these connections. As it evaporated, the Caspian Sea was formed 30 million years ago, as well as the Aral and Black Seas and Lake Urmia.
when trying to remember the Great Lakes I just use the HOMES trick
Huron
Ontario
Michigan
Erie
Superior
you cant be cuban and american. Pick a side
'Tethys' is one of the best names ever.
Thank you, science side of yt
*Spot on mate.*
Thank you
At 10:25 you kept interchangably saying "tallest mountain in England" and "tallest mountain in the UK" which are not the same thing. Tallest mountain in the UK is in Scotland and is called Ben Nevis (Beinn Nibheis"
Ottowa is named after the Odawa tribe (who actually lived near Toronto) and I suspect that this national forest is named after the same tribe.
if it wasn't already confusing, here in Scandinavia we call the Baltic Sea the "eastern lake"
The same in germany :D
And don't forget about the United States, with it's Great Salt Lake in Utah. WTF would you even call that if salt water made it a sea, the Great Salt Sea? That's kind of misleading. By the standards of seas, it's wouldn't even qualify as a Pretty Good Salt Sea.
I call it the "ball stick sea".
Because I'm a 12yo boy, even though I'm actually a 34yo woman.
And that "Eastern Lake" got translated into Finnish as "Itämeri" aka. "The East Sea"... despite it being to the west of us.
@@richardkenan2891 You can't call the lake in Utah "The Salt Sea" because we already have one in California. Technically it's called the "Salton Sea" and was created in the early 1900's when water breached a canal between the Colorado River and Los Angeles, but you still will have to pick a different name for the one in Utah.
14:26 Loch is the Scottish word for fjord (Pronounced 'fior' actually). It means the same thing: "Long, narrow body of water". Many large freshwater lakes in Norway are called fjords as well, although we are not very consistent with it. Some lakes we call seas, some we call ponds, others we just call water... Can't think of any that we actually call lakes 😂
Edit: On second thought, seems like the Scotts will call anything Loch, so long as it was not land... So who knows 🤷♂
What if there was a Mount Loch? Haha
Loch is used for lakes and sea inlets, not simply fjords. Sea inlets are often called sea lochs to differentiate them from fresh water lochs. It etymologically comes from same Proto-Indo European word as lake does.
Lomg water
There are two pretty clear types of loch.
In germany we have der See which is a lake and die See which is any open body of water. So for you non germans is the sea and the sea.
That Aegean Sea pronunciation is wild
IT IS NOT THE SALTINESS THAT LEADS TO THE DEBATE AROUND THE CASPIAN SEA, it is how it was formed. It was formed from continental crust moving around the ocean- it has oceanic crust under it. This is generally not true for lakes.
I live on lake superior. It looks like an ocean when you’re on it, we interact with it like an ocean and it can be dangerous like the ocean. it’s quite insane to think about how it’s a lake, but it’s so immense.
We also like to forget about the caspian sea and call superior the biggest lake in the world
oh wow look Lake People!
I was stationed at KI Sawyer, and use to love driving along the shore of Superior. It's an absolutely beautiful body of water, but it can get extremely rough. I never got to go out on it in a boat, but I have been out on lake Michigan many times. I always thought it was way murkier than Superior though. All the great lakes are impressive, but Superior is by far the most beautiful in my opinion.
Same with Lake Michigan here and I imagine the other lakes.
Michigander here. Love seeing the attention shown to the Great Lakes here. Regarding one of your questions, the Ottawa national forest and the city of Ottowa are both named after the Ottowa Indian tribe. (We also have an Ottowa county on the west side of the state)
Yeah "Ottawa" is an English corruption of the word "Ojibwe" which was one of the names of the Algonquin tribes living in the region. Given that the Algonquin spread across a pretty large area (and went through multiple displacements), it makes sense that the name Ottawa is found across a pretty vast section of the Great Lakes region. Ohio also has an Ottawa county near Lake Erie.
@@jonathanbowers8964 My understanding has always been that the origin of the word "Ottawa" was from the Algonquin word for "trade" (adawe) and a name that the indigenous people used to describe themselves. The "corruption" of Ojibwe you may be thinking of might be "Chippewa"
Michigan is the best state
They wouldn't call it Superior if it wasn't the biggest. Solved!
Widen the St. Mary's River and create Lake Superior-Michigan-Huron.
Second guess was right for Huron like hyeron.
I'm Canadian and we learned them as HOMES
We sure did!!! I had a teacher gr 5 & 6 Who even was staunch about the spelling! If it wasn't spelled correctly NO MARKS
"It's even more interesting when you dive into it" got me more than it should
"whats up my neagh's" -ibx2cat
Actually all of the Great Lakes connect so would you count the Great Lakes as one? What would the name be. Also would they be called sea since they connect to the Gulf of Maine?
The critical factor is that Huron and Michigan are at the same surface elevation above mean sea level, whereas Superior is at a higher surface elevation and Erie and Ontario are each successively lower above msl than Huron-Michigan.
No, lake Michigan and Huron are the same lake. It's just that politically, each side has its own name. Lake Superior is connected to lake Huron via River. To be a lake, the two bodies of water can't flow into each other. There is an elevation difference between Superior and Huron. The same can be said about all of the other Great lakes, besides michigan-huron.
Such superior quality is unheard of on UA-cam.
The Caspian "Sea" being a lake is one of the reasons I will never 100% trust the name of a geographical location as being what it actually is
Like how England is called a "country", which it isn't if we go by the definition that a country is a sovereign state.
Because honestly, why of all the actual proper countries of the world; why is UK the only one divided up into more counties? Why no other country? How would you even define "country" so it includes sovereign states and the four specific divisions of the UK?
@@Liggliluff Like any federal country in the world. A lot of them.
@@Liggliluff Some are divided into states, and that used to be a word for independent policies as well.
The national forest and the capital of Canada are both named after the Ottawa Indian tribe who lived in the area before the Europeans arrived.
To be a lake with fresh water it must be at a higher altitude than sea level and have a channel that takes the water to the sea. All interior lakes that have no outlet to the sea will become salty because evaporation and rainfall is the only thing that determines to area of the lake and it will become salty. Freshwater lakes are continuously drained and filled by rainfall and /or snowmelt and remain fresh.
You should do a video on shipwrecks in the Great Lakes. 250 meter boats have sunk due to storms on the lakes which is crazy to think about.
I would love to see this.
The most famous being the Edmund Fitzgerald. Thanks Gordon Lightfoot.
Years ago, a shipwreck was discovered at Southampton, Ontario. Actually, 2 ships were found. One was on top of the other.
I think they eventually identified one as the Weasel. A ship from Detroit. It was shipwrecked before we settled the area.
tbh the entire comment section was more interesting than the video lmao love you toycat
Norwegian here. Loch Hourn is a fjord. Not a sea, not a bay, not a sound, not a lake, not a loch. It's a fjord. You're welcome.
I mean we didn't give you a whole word to your language for you to only use that word when referring to geographical features found in our country, what would then be the use of that word. Scotland has fjords, Greenland has fjords, Chile has fjords, New Zealand has fjords. Get it right damned Brits(and I am dedicating this criticism to the wikipedia page of Loch Hourn, not poor toycat who's just trying to keep up).
16:04 What's ironic is that Ottawa national forest is closer to where the actual Odawa (Ottawa) Native-American tribe lived than the city of Ottawa in Canada.
The biggest "lake" in England isn't a lake, it's a mere, which once also meant sea. "Ottawa" is the anglicized version of an Algonquin word for a place to trade, so there can be lots of ottawas. Besides Ottawa National Forest in Michigan, there's an Ottawa County in northern Ohio outside Toledo, which contains Ottawa National Wildlife Refuge in marshes near Lake Erie, then there's a town in western Ohio, another town in Illinois, and another in Kansas. Probably more.
if only lake megachad still existed
This is the best video on this channel in a hot while. Almost good enough to be third channel content.
The problem with the “size by volume” argument is that by that criteria, I could dig a hole 10,000 miles deep and 1 foot wide, fill it to the top with water, and call it the largest lake in the world. Surface area is the best way to determine the size of a lake, because the surface area is what you cross when you cross a lake, not the volume. Comparing it to the population of a city is also a bit silly, seeing as cities have some drastic differences from lakes.
that’s my take (:
Also, I believe the separation of Lake Michigan and Lake Huron is because they were discovered separately. This is based on absolutely no research whatsoever so take it with a grain of salt
The volume was obviously a response to defining a lake by the saltiness of it's water.
@@HappyBeezerStudios ermm, volume is clearly referring to how loud the lake is
@@bronzite_ okay, now I have to see if someone made a list of the loudest lakes
6:18 it's "HERE-on", which as someone who knows what those letters allegedly do, I find pretty annoying. But that's what we all call it here, and I'm from Michigan, The Great Lakes state so you can appeal to my authority.
For the love of God, Ottawa is a Native American word meaning to trade. A lot of things in the US is named Ottawa. They probably traded furs in that forest with Algonquins there.
It is also the name of a people that lived in the general area, and were known as traders. These trade connections were very influential to the European knowledge of the area as a whole.
@@rianfelis3156 yep, the Ojibwa people
When he got confused about the Ottawa National Forest, it was bait. He always does that kind of thing with controversial places or names, joking that someone should explain it in the comments, knowing that it will start a fierce argument. It's part of his brand.
@@yoironfistbro8128 i hope youre wrong cause that would be a degenerate way of thinking, his Neagh joke was already on the line as well
why didnt you kill the word when you killed the natives? its hella ugly
Fun fact: Lake Superior actually connects to the Mexican gulf down in Louisiana via the river systems in the US
So it's a sea.
@@dirremoire no, that is also the case with the Black Sea, which has a canal.
Only by uding using Lake Michigan ehich connects to the iIllinos River via a canal and eventually the Illinois River flows into the Mississi
Neagh = Knee
11:43 I...wouldn't say that walking in public if I were you. Didn't have that on my 2022 bingo but it's probably the best thing you've ever said.
0:45 Love how you're jumping in Turkmenistan...probably the closest you'll ever get to actually going to Turkmenistan
Technically the Caspian IS connected to an ocean by TWO ways. The first is via the Volga-Don Canal. By traveling north on the Volga from the Caspian, and then taking the canal to the Don, you eventually end up at the Black Sea by traveling southwest on the Don towards the Sea of Azov. The second way is if you travel north on the Volga, just northwest of Yaroslavl you end up at the Rybinsk Reservoir. Then from the Rybinsk Reservoir and you go north on the Volga-Baltic Waterway, you end up at Lake Beloye and Lake Onega. Then from Lake Onega, you go west on the Svir River and end up at Lake Ladoga. Finally from Ladoga, you go west on the Neva River...the river that cuts through St. Petersburg
Thanks, Kim Jong-Un
But is is "Lake" superior via the great lakes network and down Saint Lawrence
Same as Baikal which is connected to the Arctic Ocean
whats up my neagh o.o
Fun fact, the Mackinac(pronounce mackinaw) Bridge, the bridge that connects the Upper and Lower Peninsulas of Michigan, was not built until the 60s, and before that people had to ride on a barge across the strait.
Also every year their is a parade across the beige led by the governor of Michigan
@@TheAmericanCatholic I didn’t know that and I live 10 miles from it💀
11:44 here before toycat gets cancelled
Best 15 seconds video I've ever seen.. Feels much longer
8:13 It is named after the Native Tribe, Ottowa, which is also where the Ottowa River got its name from, which is where the former Bytown, now the Canadian Capital of Ottowa got its name from
So all the lakes connected to the Mississippi river are part of the ocean? Cause then I have one in my backyard in southern Illinois.
it has to be connected to the ocean by another sea or a strait
River flows one way sadly
Technically no because the river flows towards the ocean not from and the Mississippi River is Freshwater.
@@ibx2cat til it doesn’t. That’s when things get bad. Look up reel foot lake Tennessee. You’ll like that. Love your vids dude
@@shaundiltz5821 I looked it up and that is insane! As a non American K am always interested in American history.
6:57 technically all of the Great Lakes are connected with each other by a bit of water between them, and then they are all connected by the river St. Lawrence, so does that mean that the Great Lakes qualify as a gulf too? 🤔
Niagara falls and Lake Saint Clair ,the small lake between Huron and Erie , break the connections.
Lisa likes licking lettuce lightly.. thanks Toycat, I’ll never forget the Great Lakes again.
You know, even if you count Lake Michigan-Huron as one lake, at least Lake Superior will have something that no other lake does, and that's being the coolest looking lake in the world.
Lake Superior is already the coolest because it looks like a wolf's head. (Isle Royale is the eye and the Keweenaw peninsula is the mouth)
Love your stuff. Could you do a video about the geography of Texas? Dont know what about but youll figure something out
It big
i live in Texas
@@ibx2cat but Alaska is bigger. And California is bigger in population.
@@ibx2cat and warm
@@ibx2cat agreed
"Tallest mountain in the UK."
Hello any passing Scottish people!
Ottowa National Forest is named such because the native tribe in the region was called the “Ottowa,” which inhabited parts of the Michigan Peninsula.
The names of a lot of places near the Great Lakes are based on the Native American tribes/groups that existed in the area at the time of naming. These obviously didn’t respect current day borders. A lot of of names like Manhattan Mississippi and even Michigan all have Native American origin.
Lol @ Aygen sea. I think you mean Aegean (i.e. Ay-gee-an). 3 syllables.
Come for the geography...stay for the pronunciation.
pretty sure he knows , pretty sure that was on purpose xP
This video is very similar to an essay I did in third grade.
The Ottawa Nat'l Forest in Michigan is named after the Ottawa Indians, a tribe a.k.a. the Odawa,. They lived in the area surrounding Lake Huron. Ottawa, Canada is a reference to the Ottawa River, the name of which is derived from the Algonquin adawe, meaning "to trade". The city's modern name in Algonquin language is Odàwàg. Michiganders pronounce Huron as 'Hue-ron' with stress on the first syllable.
It is also important to mention that (at least the way I have heard it) this is pronounced in a northern accent which shifts the vowels. the "-ron" part is pronounced in the way that the end of Iran is pronounced minus the stress or similar to the word ran in a British accent.
1:13 the Caspian sea does have a connection to the ocean through the river Volga then the volga-don canal then through the river don
The dead sea, even though it is incredibly small, called a sea.
I grew up in Michigan and can remember two distinct pronunciations of "Huron": HYOO-rahn and HYOO-ruhn (which distressingly rhymes with the American pronunciation of "urine").
The Ottawa (or Odawa) are an indigenous ethnic group who settled in various parts of what is now Michigan and southeastern Canada after the 17th century, and who also had settlements in Ohio.
In addition to the Ottawa National Forest in the Upper Peninsula, Michigan has an Ottawa County in the Lower Peninsula.
Ohio has an Ottawa River (a tributary of the Auglaize River), an Ottawa County, and a town of Ottawa, which is located in Putnam County.
There is also an Ottawa River in Canada. For much of its length, it defines the boundary between the provinces of Ontario (where Canada's capital city of Ottawa is located) and Québec.
So what's that pronunciation in IPA?
@@Liggliluff /ˈhjʊɹɑn/ or /ˈhjɝɑn/ in General American, according to Wiktionary. Or are you asking for IPA notation for the two pronunciations I remember?
I was always taught that lake Victoria was the biggest and deepest in the world. That's the British school system for ya 🙄
2:41 Monke
That was scary
I've been in the boundary waters, which are a series of tiny lakes right off of some of the great lakes and also are divided between the US and Canada like the Great lakes are (and each lake on the border is divided down the middle the same as the great lakes) and honestly it works fine. They just ask you nicely to not go on the other country's side of the lake unless you filled out the right paperwork, and if you stay overnight (if they choose to check you out) or go somewhere where people actually exist, they'll check to make sure you have the right documentation to be there
Why is Ottawa national forest in Michigan? I dunno. Why is there a Toronto in Ohio? What the hell is Vancouver Oregon/Washington?
Oh wait I know this. It's because those are Native "First Nations" North American peoples' words/names and their lands and territories didn't line up perfectly with where borders fell between colonizers after the ([ahem] 9 year long) "7 Years War" (because the English naming stuff, amirite?), and later "War of 1812".
One of the reasons the Caspian is called a sea is because it's rivers flowing in but nothing flowing out except evaporation.
This here's what UA-cam is supposed to be. Totally my new favorite channel 😁
yes, this mans brain is alive
Man just said the biggest mountain in the UK is in the lake District.
When I look at a map of Scotland it looks like one could sail from Ford William to Inverness, via Loch Ness. Does that technically make northern Scotland a separate island apart from Great Brittain?
Not yet
@@maddog5284 _yet?_
As an American, Here is how I remember the Great Lakes, we have six.
Ontario has Niagara Falls
Erie Caught on Fire
Michigan is inside the US
Superior is Big
and nobody cares about Huron.
And also, The Great Salt Lake is the best lake
Ottawa is derived from the Algonquin word "adawe" meaning to trade, so it was a fairly common name in the region. The Algonquin were one of several Anishinaabe peoples living all around the Great Lakes region who shared similar languages and cultures, so the same or a similar word was likely used all over.
As a Michigander, Lake Michigan and Huron are separate, but they are continually one lake. The other Great Lakes are only connected through rivers or locks, so they are separate.
Actually, Lake Baikal is about twice as deep as the height of the tallest building in the world.
Fun fact, since you were wondering about American national parks in Canada, although not called Washington, there is the Roosevelt Campobello International Park on Campobello Island in New Brunswick, Canada. An island in which only has direct land access to the state of Maine, despite being part of Canada. The park is jointly administered by Parks Canada and the US National Parks Services, each splitting maintenance and costs 50/50.
Superior has more water than all the Great Lakes combined so? This is a never ending paradox of what’s what.
The Salton sea isint a sea but a like in California. But it's salty because of agricultural runoff.
Any lake with no outlet will be salty, because the salt builds up and never drains out, that’s why the Great Salt Lake, the Dead Sea and the Caspian Sea are salty.
This guy just gets funnier and funnier. The comment about Neagh really cracked me up.
As a person who lives at the bottom of the lake have you even known about our civilization down there?
The upper peninsula of Michigan is a great place to explore 10/10 would recommend
This is how hyperactive adhd would speak if it were a person
You could make the argument that Lake Superior isn’t even a lake because it has a natural connection to the ocean.
it's a river, not an open waterway like the Straight of Gibraltar etc.
more you analyze the globe the more weird it gets last 15 videos
this is the most funniest educational video i have watched in a while wow
That barrels of oil joke got me
As far as I am aware, a sea, fjord, bay, etc is a body of water that is salty, at elevation 0 and directly connected to another sea or ocean
The "Hur" at the start of Huron is pronounced like the "heur" in heuristics
5:13 *my brother in christ that is not Lake Baikal*
Videos like me make me wish that I did videos about history and geography and not about naruto lol
Why not do both? The geography and see history of Naruto?
~HOMES ~ (Huron, Ontario, Michigan, Erie, Superior). Straight from my 7th grade geography class. Also, I believe the Ottawa NF is named after the Native American Tribe that lived in the region.
An example of something being completely mislabelled is the peacock mantis shrimp. It's not a shrimp, nor a mantis and it's also not a peacock.
Technically, at least in America, a "lake" is a body of water with at least one water inlet and at least one water outlet, with inlets & outlets being creeks, rivers, streams, bayous, dam spillways, and such. But clearly, not everyone around the world got that memo.
Historic names tend to stick, whether they are accurate or not. Whatever.
As someone who lives by the Great Lakes, I'll let you in on a secret. They are all connected, and Lake Ontario is connected to the St. Lawrence River, which I connected to the ocean, so they technically are a fresh water inland sea
Several times deeper than the tallest building? Two. Two times.
Fun fact: some people consider the Caspian Sea an ocean because the seafloor is ocean crust instead of land crust.
In North America, we have things that might be rivers and might be fjords, like the Hudson and the Saguenay.
These are the topics that radicalize people.
"British man having a 20 minute long unscripted rant about some nieche subject" has got to be my favourite genre of videos on youtube
I find him incredibly irritating, and I’m a Brit. He pronounces The Aegean Sea completely non-standardly which just adds to it all
3:22 Yes! It will and yes it one was around 6000 years BC and then the wall between the Mediterranean and the Black Sea broke and salt water has been rushing in every since, killing all the sweets water creatures, the rotting of which has made the sea uninhabitable under 200m depth.
The Black Sea is less salty (about 18/1000) then the Mediterranean and the ocean.
everybody gangsta until you realize that lake superior is also connected to lake huron
11:58 could call Loch Ness the Lake Baikal of the UK, most volume and the deepest.
EDIT, my mistake, Loch Morar's the deepest but Ness is deeper on average, Loch Lomond's the largest (for Great Britain, Lough Neagh for UK)
the original Lockheed corporation was called loughead after the spelling of the founder’s last name, he legally changed his name to Lockheed to avoid confusion.
When you started talking about lakes that aren't lakes anymore I thought you were going to go down the rabbit hole of absolutely giant paleolakes that dwarf anything around now.
toycat do tgis I beg please!! I know he wont just cuz ive asked him 😮💨
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I literally LOL'd at "Lisa likes licking lettuce lightly."