SAVING A STEINER 430 4X4 TRACTOR (VENTRAC) FROM THE WEEDS OF A JUNKYARD...WILL IT RUN??
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- Опубліковано 21 лют 2023
- IN THIS VIDEO WE SAVE A 1999 STEINER 430 MAX THAT HAS BEEN SITTING FOR MANY YEARS IN A LITERAL JUNKYARD!! THIS MACHINE IS SIMILAR TO WHAT MATT WITH DIESEL CREEK HAS BUT THIS ONE IS IN A LITTLE BIT ROUGHER SHAPE AND OLDER LOL. THIS MACHINE HAS A 3 CYLINDER GAS KUBOTA WG750-E ENGINE THAT WE TRY TO GET RUNNING. IT ALSO HAS A SUNDSTRAND SERIES 15 HYDRAULIC PUMP THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME ISSUES.
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You will Love the Steiner tractor! But please don't take the pump apart. I was a Steiner tractor dealer for many years and still run a 420 model with many many more hours on it than yours! Any rattling noise is likely from the driveshaft or loose mounting bolts on the pump. The other probable cause is air in the hydraulic fluid. Recheck the oil level in the front gearbox several times because the fluid transfers between the gearboxes and takes quite a while to adjust to where it wants to stay. Also, any time you change the fluid or change the filter, you are supposed to run the hydraulic motors in forward for several minutes with both gearboxes in neutral to work all the air out of the system. Then repeat in reverse. All of this with no load and both gearboxes in neutral. Also you need to make sure you used the correct oil. Special synthetic hydrostatic oil is needed, NOT regular hydraulic oil because regular hydraulic oil will cavitate at the extreme pressures inside the pump and motors and cause foaming of the oil and extreme wear inside the pump and motors. By the way, the Kubota 3 cylinder gas was the most dependable engine ever put on a Steiner tractor! Congrats on finding one!
gosh thank you soo much for all the great info!! however I checked everything and the fluid but I’m sure it’s the pump, this machine had really low hydro fluid at first and I think that caused issues and the metal shavings in the oil ☹️
It does my heart good so see someone go about checking out and repairing equipment in a logical manner! So many of these "will it start" videos are endless beating on an obviously dead horse instead of doing the obvious: Clean the carb, check the spark, ensure a clean fuel supply, use a fresh battery. Then, once you've established that it will run, fix it right! Very impressed!
thank you sooo much!! it does my heart good to see wonderful comments like this🙂
Fantastic job on bringing it back to life. You cleaned out all the important stuff but unfortunately nobody can see that. We however know what you have done. Yeah this will be a fantastic machine.
thank you very much!! and yes you are correct there is so much more work that goes into these machines but the video would be days long if I put it all in the video lol thanks for watching!
@@TheHomePros6221 yes I wonder how did you manage to fix the seat?
Find it hard to believe that motor wasn't sized with 2oopsi on all cylinders our junkyards full of sized n blown up rùsted out crap whatever
WOW!
1. The content and delivery of your videos is top notch!
2. You’re an outstanding mechanic!
3. That machine is a BEAST!
Way to go man! Looking forward to the rest of the restoration series of this beautiful and interesting piece of machinery. Love your videos man. Keep it up!
wow thank you so much steve that comment really means a lot to me thanks again my friend!!
@@TheHomePros6221 I agree...dont change a thing...I want more.
this guy is definitely not an outstanding mechanic, he's a hack. go to a trade school and learn to be a mechanic and you will know the difference
This machine could not have been cheap when new - it's definitely worth the effort and time you're putting into it.
They run over 30k new nowadays
I wonder why it was parked in the first place with the gas and the shape it was in it looked like it was sitting over 10 plus years so it was not really that old when they stopped using it.
Man I sure love to find me a garden tractor like that
yea they are hard to come by esp around here, that junkyard had so many cool things, there was a lot more I wanted to get
@@TheHomePros6221 ⅘⁵
I have been putting stabil in everything these days. I can't believe how much gunk was in that. Good job!
You and me both! that ethanol destroys stuff!!
I think the manual fuel pump was a good idea. The Kubota motor in those machines is one of the better ones that they came with. Some of the other gas ones you can't find parts for anymore. Looked at one last year that was in similar shape to yours but didn't have a Kubota so I passed.
Great video!
thanks a bunch! yea I like the manual pump much better and it’s a cleaner look, I’m really glad it has the kubota I’d love it if it had a diesel to, but these gas kubotas are supposed to last 3,000+ hrs so we will c I guess.
Awesome work Darrell, that is a fine little machine and your patience to ensure a quality restoration shows through in your video. Amazing job, thanks for taking the time to include us in your projects. That Kubota 3 cylinder gasser is a sweet little engine, glad you were able to save it. I am so looking forward to the next installment of you bringing this machine back from the brink. Be well.../B
gosh thank you so much bob!! I truly appreciate your comment!!😊
So watched the whole thing now. I find it incredibly and sad that someone bought this machine for a LOT of money and then it was so neglected! Good that you got it running again, it deserve a better faith than fading away on that dump! Regarding the Sundstrand 15, I have heard that they are basically bulletproof so I bet it is the steering orbitrol valve that makes the strange sound. Would be cool to see what this machine could do with a small bucket.
that’s awesome thank you nils!! yea it’s crazy how the guy had all those nice cars and machines and just let them sit in the elements and they said he would never sell anything!….. I wish I had money like that
Much respect for your ability to explain stuff in detail without being boring or coming off as rambling lol! I’m taking notes for my channel!
thank you!!
Just found a new must watch. No rubber gloves, easy to listen to, a five star rating. Top bloke, Andy from New Zealand enjoys your site. Good on you cob
Glad you enjoyed🙂 I do we’re gloves in a lot of my vids but mostly so people don’t see my ugly hands and nails lol
Great video! I look forward to seeing all of the projects you take on and how well you do them. I really like how you fabricate stuff to make it work. You also do a great job with the camera so we can see exactly what your doing. Cant wait to see part 2!
wow that comment really ment a lot to me thank you very much my friend!!
Hey Darrell, new subscriber here! I really like the way you brought that machine back to life! You mentioned Diesel Creek in this video, and you remind me of the kind of work that Matt does on that channel. I like to see old machines put back to work, so thanks for what you do! That appears to be an awesome machine! I’m going back to look at the rest of your videos and admire your handy work. Looking forward to much more!
thank you so much Bennie!! 😊 I truly appreciate that very much!! ❤️🙂
Yesterday my neighbor and I, mostly him, drained and changed the hydro oil in my 430 Max era 2004. I followed a video from Steiger 256, on that process which made is easy! Today I wanted to change the engine oil on the Kubota 3 cyl. and could NOT find the drain plug. My son finally stopped by and located it. I knew we had replaced it with a "quick drain" years ago, but I still couldn't find it. LOL. He reached under, pulled on the small metal tab, turned it 90 degrees over the catch pan and the oil drained out. I strongly recommend using a quick drain for this tractor bcause it's very difficult to access a plug with a wrench or socket. Then I remembered it took 3 qts, but that also very hard to find even in the service manual. I wrote the dates on both filters and the hours with a black Sharpie and sprayed them with clear enamel so they won't was or wear off.
thank you for the great comment, mine already has a quick drain but changing the hydro fluid is a job
Very nice job of bringing this back to life. Now you have to refinish it via sanding, priming and painting. It really deserves it... Thumbs Up!
yes sir thank u very much Gary that’s the plan!!
You are very methodical and logical in your troubleshooting. Lot of hard work but it's worth it. Thx for taking us along on your journey.
Thanks 👍 I really appreciate that my friend
Just found your channel today and really enjoyed watching!!! I guess some people are allergic to general maintenance. Some people think because you spend a small fortune on something , you don't have to do anything but gas and go!!! I hope this is now your machine you deserve it!!! Thanks for sharing friend!!
Thank you so much Lottie!!! I truly appreciate it! 😊
I REALLY enjoy your videos. Some folks just don't do repair videos well. They skip around or don't show everything but you do and it's great. I have watched a ton of your videos. Subbed. Please keep more coming!
Wow, thanks! I truly appreciate that!!
I love finding cool stuff in junk yards and restoring them and most of the time keeping and using them. I found a 1985 Yamaha trimoto three wheeler and I have not been able to find a bearing case for it anywhere so I am building an aluminum casting furnace that runs on waste motor oil. I also found a Ransome bobcat 48 inch walk behind or sulky pull mower. My prize was a Miller bobcat Welder sitting in someone's backyard for 20 years. Keep up the great work.
that’s awesome!!
Thanks for making the video on this Steiner. It would be interesting to see more videos on this machine. It's a real heavy duty little tractor and is worth making it look nice.
More to come! soon
The fabric softer oil jug is the best idea yet, thanks
Nice job. Its biggest problem was neglect and weather. No serious rebuilding. Love the little Kubota gas burner. It sounded as good as the little 3 cyl diesel, which I have one on a Grasshopper mower. Both great engines.
Great video! I just found you today. A few things. Find the correct procedure to get the air out of the hydraulics. There is one specific to that system. If you don't it will cause you problems going forward.
2. Just a trick I found to help fill those hydrologic systems. Find a long skinny straw from a convenience store, put it in the funnel into the fill port. When you fill it will allow the air to escape. You're bright guy! You will see how that works. There is a tape called self- vulcanizing. Use that or wire loom instead of electrical. You won't have gummy problems in the future.
My opinion cost as much as they are worth. Absolutely nothing! 😂 Great Job! I'm looking forward to watching the rest of your stuff. I have run out of new stuff that I watch. I'm retired now. It's good to see someone like you rescue things in a throwaway society!
thanks man i really appreciate that and the tips!!
My OCD is always yelling wash it!, just wash it!....then he washes it.....and I am like....yeeesss!
hahahah
Nice video. That sound could be air going thru the pump. check fluid level again. Also could be a sticky pressure relief valve.
Thanks for the tips I’m thinking a bearing is going bad there is also a needle bearing that could have went bad already
Love the restoration so far, weeks of work concentrated in 1 hour video, very cool. Thanks for sharing your hard work and dedication. Looking forward for part 2 for sure !!! 👍🏻
Thank you very much! there’s actually a whole lot more work that goes into these projects esp this one but there’s no way I could show it all, my computer wants to explode around the 1 hr mark lol
I’ve had a Steiner 430 for 24 years and it has been great. Koehler engine that I replaced with a 30 hp. You can get parts for that unit from a Steiner dealer. They still support the 430. Originally made by the Steiner brothers but then sold. After non compete clause ran out they started Ventrac. Units are very similar.
thank you George 🙂 what engine did u swap it with?
It that the tractor place where I get ford tractor parts ???
Check the Hyd. Inlet Strainer first. loved the Video 👍
I can’t find we’re it’s at if it has one at all
Awesome job fixing that tractor up Can't wait for part 2 Thank you for the video
Thanks 👍 joe I really appreciate it!!
Another great video and what a find.....looking forward to part 2 and beyond!
thank you soo much my friend!!
Steiner should get you those missing parts. If this isn’t a testament to their product. I duno what is
That would be soo awesome if they did!!
Quick tip; cleaning the float valve seat is simple with a chop stick sharpened in a pencil sharpener, dipped in fine valve grinding paste an a few spins against the seat prior to soak. I've reseated many "impossible to replace" needles and seats or if the wait time for parts immobilizes a machine for days.......bear
This is a great tip!! I’ve actually done the same but I usually use a q tip
Wow, you are very thorough and clean with your work. Great job. That’s how I would do things.
thank u sir!!
What a cool little machine, that would have been fun to semi-restore and make useable.
I plan on doing a restoration on it 🙂
Awesome little machine! Loving the work your doing on it to bring it back!
Glad you enjoy it!🙂🙂
I just bought a 430 with the same engine. Way more hours and a rust bucket but it runs strong and I don't need it to look pretty for my purpose. I have a feeling I"m going to be referencing your video often. Keep the content on this one coming.
that’s awesome be sure to keep a lookout as I will be restoring this after I finish some other projects
Great job as always. You done a great job with it given the condition of the machine
Thank you very much Tod!! 😊😊
Great video. Watched the whole thing. I bought a 430max project last year. They’re great once you get all the picklist repairs done that have been neglected 👍
That is awesome! what engine does yours have?
New subscriber… fantastic video! On the level of a Mustie or DCreek for certain. Very well shot, perfectly edited, informative and entertaining. Kudos!
Thank you so much ryan!! That really made my day!
You do a very excellent job with your videos. This is now one of my favorite channels keep up the good work.
aw man thank you so much!! that means a lot!!
In a few month you'll find a massive tree growing where you threw the sticks and leaves... I like your content and presentation, keep up the great work!
😊
Cool seeing your wife helping you
Mine washed parts for 20 years but I also washed dishes
haha thank u very much 🙂
That thing is a beast. I especially like that you could hook up a hydraulic log splitter. Cool machine.
Another great video. I love your approach to these projects. So many people would have replaced broken parts with new ones but you see it as just another challenge and fix them. Looking forward to the next episode.
thank you so much!! no one is gonna beleive the amount of money I have in this machine or lack there of 😊
great job on saving this tractor
thank u very much
Loved you video content. I remember seeing one of these Steiner's just sitting there unused, and thinking how cool and different it was.
it’s a awesome machine!
Very cool find. Great job on the fix.
Thanks 👍😊
Awesome find. Great job getting it back running
Glad you enjoyed it😊😊
DUDEZILLA!!! I am deeming you 'Diesel Creek MINI ME'!!!!! You ROCK like Van Halen did in Buffalo, NY on 6/19/1988! And trust me, THEY ROCKED!!!! FYI- This tractor is set to show all the crappy bushes and stuff around casa de HOME PRO who is boss!! YOU and the Steiner!!!!!
Hahahahah
Very impressed with your range of skill.
New here...Loved that resurrection! So skilled and patient...nothing like the whole process without getting my hands dirty...new sub.
I truly appreciate that my friend I really do!!😊😊
I’m here too great job getting this beaut fixed up they are really useful bit of Kit
Yes they are! thank you 🙂
Great tractor and look forward to restoring!!!👍
That noise is definitely hydraulic pump and the source of the metal filings in the drain plugs...
Probably a shim has come loose or broken causing gear chatter.....😎
Thanks 👍 I was thinking the same thing or it’s a bearing or needle bearing from what I saw in the schematic
Looks like you done a very nice job thanks for sharing 👍
thank you very much, Tony
You did it again! Great job.
thank you micheal!!
Steiner is a very high quality brand and VERY exSPENDive when new. Well worth getting it going again!
thanks brother!
Good presentation, good camera work, you love dogs, and your Wlfe helps; I'm in! Thanks!
aw man what a great comment thank u so much my friend!!!
Cant beilive you found it at a junk yard nice restoration.
I know, right?
CEE, MUSTIE1, DIESEL CREEK, AND now you are with doubt, my top watch. Andy from New Zealand.
dude!!!!! thank you sooo much!!!!!! don’t forget Andrew camarata and Marty t lol thanks again brother!!
Great Viewing Sir! You have resurrected a Workable lawnmower-Tractor now!
thank u very much mark
Brilliant content , keep em coming 👍🏻🙋🏼♂️
thank you Andrew!!
Thank you for sharing, great project, I learn a lot 👍👍👍👍
Thank you I’m glad to hear that!!
Very cool mower Darrell, I bet they sold more attachments for it. really enjoyed the video.
hey bill yes they actually have tons of different things for it and all the ventrac stuff fits as well
Excellent job, almost a full restoration. Love to see part 2 and 3?
thank you very much it’s taking a lot of work but hopefully I can get it fully restored
Me to and a real paint job
@@philliphall5198 that’s the plan
im here
haha thanks buddy I prob should have waited till the weekend to post but oh well
Always easier to cobble up a cap and pressure test any tank before putting into use. Same with any boiler installation. Easy to repair when dry not so much when fumes and moisture are in them.
I know I got lazy
Great job, it’s going to be amazing when you finish it, hope you can source all the bits you need. As it’s going to be wicked work horse when it’s done. Good luck, great video. 🚜👍👍👍🚜
Fingers crossed! thank you very much malcom
Excelant repair thanks for sharing, see yoy in your next repair video.
thank you so much 🙂
New subscriber, Have watched a few of your videos and I'm impressed, Don't know what you do for a living in the regular world but I'll bet your just as meticulous on that job also.Gord Ontario Canada
Thank you so much!! I own a construction buisness called the home pros lol 😊
hi, nice work and a lot of money I guess and it turns out great, now maybe a nice painting and it would become a wonder, nice work bravo
Thanks 👍 my friend I plan on doing a full resto in the future
good luck and have fun, bravo, bravo
Great video bro!! Just found your channel and got my sub!. You seem down to earth, keep them coming! 😀
that’s awesome thank you so much man!!
Nice find
thanks James!!
What a cracking good watch. Good on you cob. Andy from New Zealand.
Thanks Andy cheers👍
Great video. You video skills are on par with you mechanical skills. Well done. Subscribed.
thank you so much my friend I really appreciate it!! 🙂
New subscriber. Nice tractor. I wish I could find one! Looking forward to more videos!
thank you jw!! I really appreciate it!!
DIRT DAUBING WELDING IS FINE!! YOU DONE GOOD, BO!!AND IT IS A MOWER, NOT AN ATV!!
lol 🙂
I'd put a plow on the rear and a snowblower in front with a cab ( 2x2 pipe for a frame and tin ) making a great winter machine ! You might have to make a front lower grill for it !
Cool idea dave but I live in Alabama we don’t get snow here 🙂🙂
Good for you great job loved watching.thanks for sharing 😊
Thank you so much 🤗
Darrell, not criticism, but the white zip ties are made for indoor use, and the black ones are made with UV protection, so are better for outdoors.
yes you are correct, I ran out of my black ones cause I used them all up, I just bought some more though
I didn't realize Kubota made gas engines! It's a beauty!
me either I guess we learn somthing new all the time lol
Great fixes, love those dogs😊
😊🐶❤️
So many vehicles and equipment abandoned through neglect in the rich countries. Is it laziness, a tax benefit to purchase new or just a general throw away society attitude.?. Better care and maintenance would have kept this machine working for several more years. I enjoy seeing the efforts of the few on u tube who have the incentive and skill to restore such things to a useful working order again.
Thank you so much!! The guy actually got sick and passed away, he also had two more junk yards even better than this one!!
Love the video how come I never find cool stuff like this tractor in my junk yards
haha I just lucked up on this one
Great video Darrell. That engine is really sweet. I've never seen a gas Kabota. It's funny in that it sounds a bit like the diesel kabotas in places.
thanks Dave!! this is the first time I’ve ever seen one also, and it’s crazy cause they sound pretty close to a kubota diesel when they are revved up. as always I appreciate you and your comments!!!
Ventrac 4500z runs 32 hrs Kubota gas,a beast!
@@tommix2181 sweet!
That's a crusty find bro, you will make it look like a brand new though. I'm sure. Love the little kubota
thanks for checking out the vid brother!! it’s def gonna take a lot of work to get it fixed up but the old girl seems to be worth it, it’s a really cool machine!!
Ants Pants watching your content. He is the Andrew Camarata of the East in Estonia.
u got that rite!
Mate we are only human we have to make mistakes then we learn from them great job mate
Thanks
Great resto job mate. Was I the only one whispering please change the instrument binnacle plexi glass 😁Best wishes from Shropshire.
lol I’ll look into that, how do u do it?
Nice tractor, surely better than the modern vantrack, and nice work bro!😉
Thanks 👍
Best part, no sissy rubber gloves. 👍👍👍👍👍👍
well kinda… I do wear them somtimes to cover up my ugly hands
Nice job bringing it back to life
thank you Todd!!
Wow that turned out pretty nice👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
I can never understand why people don't pay out a few pennies just to service their equipment, it saves pounds in the long run and will keep the machine working. Definitely better with the new led headlights, you could go mowing in the dark with those.
I don’t understand it either but with this case the owner got sick and passed ☹️
I saw that tractor and I was like, where have I seen one of those before, then you mentioned Diesel Creek then I was like oh yeah, that thing is awesome.
Right on man they are sweet!!
You did a h*** of a job on that Tractor It seems to work very well That was a good find Keep the good work up catch you on the next one🎉
Thank u frank!!
19:11 I wonder if it was a tank liner. Thanks for the video. 👍
no it was just old varnished gas that was sitting for many many years
I have worked on the ventrac machines and the hydro fluid is synthetic fluid. Don't know if Steiner uses the same. Just an FYI. You totally brought that machine back from the depths of hell!
thank u very much Richard so do u think the fluid I used is ok?
@@TheHomePros6221 you should use a hydraulic fluid 10w/30 in the system. In the winter if you use the machine it should be a synthetic hydraulic 10w/30. Hope this helps. Not sure of the specs of the fluid you used. Might be too thin of an oil.
Great job! 🙌
Thank you!! 😊
In here before 100k subs, ready for this ship to take off
I wish man lol thank you though!
That noise is your hydraulic pump my dude. Give it a paint job, it justifies it, good job 👏
That’s what I thought to, I am going to paint and restore it in a future vid