K24a TURBO-WHAT IS THE LIMIT?
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2020
- FULL RESULTS-STOCK JDM K24a WITH BOOST. EASY 525 WHP! CIVIC SWAP. RAN OUT OF FUEL-NEED BIGGER INJECTORS. WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE LIMIT OF THE STOCK K24a? Can the stock internals (SBE) actually make 1,000 hp? should I try for the record? What will it hold in FULL BIG BANG MODE?
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I would like to see Brent from PFI team up with Richard on this and take a stock K24 to the moon!
I second that
Yes!!! Make it happen lol
Yes!!! Brent is such a cool guy too, would be a good collab
Amazing idea. Brent has all the cam timing experience to really make that a good test. I bet it would do over 700
I literally just commented that and then saw yours 3 down grate idea
This man never sleeps. I am also grateful for all of the knowledge. Make that Patreon!
Brent from PFI speed knows how to really set up the vvt and vtec on a Honda k series. He is very good at setting up these things others have some issues with. Give him a call for some added knowledge on getting the Big Bang k series done right. 🤙🏻
Brent is a genius! And so positive!
@Optical Clarity way early, puts you in vtec in normal driving sometimes. Good for the dyno but not so good on the street.
Agree
Brent's the man! He's usually always cleaning up the power band. I'm sure if you asked him, he'd tune for streetabity. He's usually tuning cars that frequent the drag strip.
Yeah so... I know you just want a youtube collaboration, but it is extremely easy to bracket cam angles and find what it likes, that doesnt' make him a wizard.
As for vtec, you set it low, you set it high, you place it where at the point where both torque curves cross...
This is awesome! best channel if you love all engines. He is not biased to any engine it’s a breath of fresh air👌🏼
I love your channel. Stumbled here learning about ford and chevy v8's. Then seeing the honda stuff makes me a fan for life
These might be the most informative modern performance videos on UA-cam
Thanks for taking the time to upload this stuff.. great content. And.. I noticed that you were wearing ear muffs.. good call. I have hearing issues from too many loud air tools, uncorked headers etc. It’s frustrating and embarrassing to not be able to keep in the conversation due to my foolishness over the years when it’s easy to avoid. So thanks, and people, take note and follow Richard’s lead and sensible precautions.
Yes!!! It’ll be awesome to see a Big Bang k-series!!!
Do it! Waiting anxiously in Brazil! There are a lot of 2008 Civic Si K20 around here, they always say over 500hp it need forged internals, would be really nice to see it for real! Thanks for everything!
I'm learning a lot in this channel.
Thanks 👍
These k series motors are awesome, glad there is starting to be some options to put these in a rwd setup
What a little beast. Definitely keentosee a big bang on this platform!
Do it! I have a stock K24 in my garage just waiting for a project. I thought if the motor in my C6 vette goes I would put a K24 turbo in it. It would be a blast!
Those Honda K series are really awesome little engines. I would love to seen a Big Bang K20 or K24. I wouldn't be surprised to see over a 1000 with ported head, cams, race gas and water to air intercooler. I bet it will get close too or over 1100 before it pops. Awesome video. Thanks for all the great content and please keep it coming!!
thnx-always fun
Love the information man. All of your stuff has maret!
GREAT video!!!! I shared it with about 20 ppl lol. Thank you so much for making it. Please make a Big Bang K24 video soon.
thnx for the share
Genuinely excited for the K series stuff
Wish I could give this video more than 1 thumb up. More K-series videos PLEASE!
K series is the LS of the Honda world. Even without a turbo its a great combo with a lightweight Honda. Very interested to see a big bang test!
Awesome! Just the content I asked for and you delivered thank you Rich! From my experience that aermotive 340 pump is your limiting factor you might want to switch to a Walbro 450 and also the injector obviously you know that. But if you are shooting for 1000 horse you have to feed the beast with some 2150cc injector!
@@dj4monie You can make 500 horsepower on 93 octane on these things. It's been done more than once. 500 is right around the limit of what it'll make on pump gas though, most setups end up at 450-500 on pump and then literally whatever you want on e85..
At this point I want to see a big bang of almost every motor!
Just here for the “Brent from PFI” comments 🤣😂
@@alexpatterson5973 nothing against him but much better tuners out there besides him
Exactly. He's just known to these guys because they all watch cleetus and jeremy and therefore see brent tune a honda and immediately think he's a wizard.
Nothing against him at all, but the things he's doing are just what you do when you tune k series...
@@stephenpourciau8155 I think it's more because he is a likeable guy. He always has a smile on his face and has a great attitude and work ethic.
@@barrettbuilt who is the best tuner out there?
@@jsmoncrief when I was A kid I dreamed of race cars and engine noise,my dad used to wake me up and take me to the restaurant where he worked 😴🥔🍞I wish Brent was my dad.🏎️🚦🏁
My
Took notes on the whole ring gap thing 😎👌 thanks
Absolutely! Please to a K-series Big Bang!
Thanks for this one!
YES! Big Bang stock with ring gap and all the boost!
Clearly everyone else would love to see Brent @pfispeed in on a k series big bang. Count me in on that list.
Run with it. I love the k series. Plumb its depths.
Just picked up a k24 accord coupe soon it will see boost this made me motivated
Yes. Big bang K24. Especially for more than one run. I would love to see how many dyno pulls it can take at 600 crank horse.
watch boostedboiz :D
There's been 100+ stock k20/k24 600whp setups over the years that last indefinitely, get daily driven, tracked .. etc. He'd wear out the dyno before that thing blew up
Just got to make sure to take care of pump
How to:
Make a Honda get 5mpg
@@fastinradfordable more like v8 lol
I watch tons of these and don't comment, but I must put in my vote for the big bang K24.
Man, I love this channel. I have a BBC, a SBF, and a Civic. All are well represented here, thanks for variety!
Glad you like them!
@@richardholdener1727 definitely throwing a turbski on the BBC because of your tests!
Looking forward to see big bang k24. Should get Bret with PFI speed involved. That would make it even better.
For what? I love them guys but for what....
Why do people always want youtubers to associate with other youtubers? If you want to watch that Bret dude, go watch him. In what way would he have benefited this? Just because he's a Honda Fanboy?
It would be cool just to see exactly how much these K series motors can handle stock......but to be honest with u ..... 500hp on a stock engine is perfect for me..... I always thought it would throw a rod but this is a very interesting series ....i love watching these videos great job on a great video
Awesome! Love the import stuff!
Yesssse, big bang k24. And maybe do a 1jz vs 2jz big bang. I've always heard the one Jay has stronger rods cuz they're shorter so it can make more power in theory but it has half a litre left displacement the 2J can you mythbusters this?
Love channel watch new vids everyday on my break
I still like the vg30s they never got much love but right now there is a guy that has ran an 8.97 in a 300zx with one out of a maxima. He claims stock long block and gaskets, and that's crazy fast if it the case.
Yes def do one . The issue with k series is the last digit prefix matters . I have a k24a1 on pump fuel and 20psi lasted 3 months at 11.5deg/11.0afr and broke the piston at the gudgeon .
K24a2 however has been known to take 600plus and big rpm.
I would love for you test the k24a1 bottom end (crv) .
Do it ASAP!!! I beg you, please do pump fuel and e85.
Keep up the great videos! I’d be interested to see a H22 (2.0) test. A TWR Jaguar V-12 would be awesome too!
Engine Analyser works out critical engine loads and red circles that based on rods gudgeon pin, sectional area and piston and crank composition. Honda cranks ( the crankshafts not the people, lol) are frequently tuftrided so the conrods can operate with reduced pin and rod journal sizes. Length of rod to stroke is on the lower end too. Soooooo....its wrist pin quality and rod cross sectional area. The avoidance of lean fuel and heavy detonation will normally look after pistons. And the adjusted RH Pist Rin Gap. Great info. Hondas engine plants, from Japan to Maryland, normally have the same metal specification and safety factors. When the Dust Up Bust Up happens, its often rods.
Thanks for doing the k! Such a great stock motor with boost. Should get with PFI Speec and the boostedboiz for a built k24.
They are the king of bangs.
Love this channel
Would love to see what some of these popular import motors can take in a big bang series. K24 would be a perfect starting point
Sounds like fun! I do have a question: when you've got serious power numbers and a stock bottom end, what kind of longevity might such a motor have?
Yeah do a big bang k24!
Amazing video 👍
I love how You (like myself) are just a true car guy and love all kinds of motors!! I was a SBC guy until I was 14 when I drove a Toyota Mr2 turbo and finally understood imports are badass too. The K series is awesome though I used to have a built B18c1 in my GSR (also owned a 383 Trans Am ws6)..both fun car at different ends of the spectrum but THANK YOU FOR THESE FREE VIDEOS BROTHER!!
Nick Barnes
Well said 👍🏻👍🏻
all motors are good
Very good videos what you make. Thank you very much. There is a lot of k20/k24 stock engines that can do 600-650HP for example from Humble Performance. So after ring gap, porting, camshaft, 50VTC, K20 oil pump it will be interesting if you can do 800whp from stock bottom K24. As I see boost, you are going slowly with boost, so maybe soft wg spring? But it doesnt matter, torque down kills rods. For next video can you show ignition timing map and exhaust backpressure with dyno runs? Thanks
Yesssss id love to see a Big Bang k24.
I’m in for anything Big Bang!
This seems like a powerful little engine...wouldn’t surprise me a bit if it made 900 or 1000 before the excitement happens!
Boosted boiz running 1000hp k24's all day, BIG BANG THE WORLD!
Not stock at all. Look at the MR2, Hondaru and the Rowdyssey, all fully built K's.
@@MafiaboysWorld And they are always breaking stuff.
would love to see it
110% keen for a big bang K24 Richard.
How you American guys manage to make so much horsepower on such small injectors is perplexing.
General rule that works pretty accurately here in Australia is 100hp per 1000cc on e85.
at a .5 BSFC-it take .5 pounds of fuel to make 1 hp, so every pound of fuel is 2 hp. 100-pound injector can make 200 hp (many good NA motors can do better than .5 BSFC) Boosted is less
Impressive power, I love the Honda 4 bangers
Love the Doors reference Richard!
A “Big Bang” would be epic! I’m all for delving into what any engine can do. Those were some great numbers out of a stock K24. Let’s see where it can go.
Please big bang one of these. Get the Boosted Boiz/PFI Speed involved! Great guys, and have lots of Honda experience!
Love the stuff they do
i love your big bang, i still wait for the coyote one
I wanted a 10th gen si so bad, glad i held off though. I live in Canada -45 right now & with oil dilution problems still popping up in the l15 i decided to get a car with a k24 engine (not sure what base yet, i really want a tsx) still searching but as i find my car I'm researching like a mofo. Ty for this video
Nice engine :) I'll be waiting for big bang with K24 :)
Yes yes yes!!!! Big bang k24 for sure
K24 Big Bang test would be awesome. Also to compare up the ladder with all the other Big Bang test. Maybe post results of all the other Big Bang tests as well at the end of the video?
Very much yes! Big Bang a bunch of common 4 cylinders!
The gm 2.2 ecotec and ford/Mazda mzr. They are piling up in scrap yards and you can buy cars that drive with them for next to nothing. The regular gm engines have sand cast heads that start to erode once the boost gets to high and the stock rods will buckle at about 350ft lbs according to GMs testing... A 2.0l turbo out of a Saab or cobalt ss on the other hand
Humble performance for the win
Yes yes yes big bang k series do a big bang on any Honda engine 👍 d-series b serious h series k series and j series.
Yes!!! You answer big!
I would love to see some Big Bang Important stuff!!
Bring on the Big Bang!!!
Love to see the k24 tested to its limits
Do it !!!!!! Great videos
I think we defiantly have to do a big bang on a k24! They are great motor's and i sure would like to see there bottom end limit.
It would be pretty awesome to see a big bang of a k24a.
if you get one as well a 1arfe or 2arfe would be cool as well. they build em a little and make big numbers(they have an offset crank too which is crazy)
still waiting on the 4.6/5.4 2v big bang as well.
Do it Richard. I’ve been wanting to put one of these in my xr4ti. They are lighter and make more power easily than the old 2.3 Lima lump.
yes it would-love me some XR4Ti
Definitely want to see the big bang k series
One big pull is great to see.
But also at what level will a combination have big numbers & still have some longevity?
I cannot wait for my k24 to be on the dyno now !
Aloha Richard , I am in need of getting my S2000 tuned . I’ll be calling u tomorrow to see what scheduling is like .
A Honda big bang would be great, just to see how much this amazing engine can take!
Definitely should do a K24 big bang test!
That power band is beautiful
Hell yeah, make a big bang one. Can't wait to see it. Im going to say 800whp
ive heard E85 is hard on motors long term? also air to air vs air to water intercooler. Great show
Lol Civic boosted wisper mode ! Maybe you could market that exhaust setup? Priceless
Wow k24s make some jam. I had an SR20 2L turbo with a 66mm turbo running 22psi of boost and that only made 300hp at the wheels and I ended up snapping the crank at the drags.
K24S are beast do a big bang for sure
I was actually impressed at what power it had at lower rpms then really inpressed when i saw they where feedin the boost in gently was this to keep the rods in the block ?
Very impressive
Personally I would pair the K24 block with a K20 head from a RSX Type S that way you would get both intake and exhaust VTech also I had an idea or a very long time ago about putting an intercooler inside a actual cooler that you would use for sodas and basically running refrigerant coils around the inside of the cooler to chill the water may be modifying a mini fridge or something like that to always have the water ice cold or even a solid block of ice
i appreciate this vid im planning on slapping a turbo in my honda element make a lil sleeper lol
Would you be able to do a Big Bang for an EJ25 motor? The internet says the ring lands fail on the stock setup, but maybe the rings just gapped tight from the factory.
It would be fun to see Volvo redblock testing, like B23 vs B230.
Looking forward to this 👍
BTW, who has to clear up the mess after an engine goes bang? 😅
me
Thats all part of the fun.
It’s a Honda not a domestic 🤣😉 .
@@joeyriveira6697 yeah way less to clean up but way more likely to explode. Good point you had cleaning up after a honda spills its guts isnt such a big deal. Not alot of mess it can make with so few things to it.
Richard, just do some research as to which k24 has the biggest rods.
I believe the 06-08 K24a2 from the Tsx has the beefiest rods. Not 100% though. Good luck and thanks for all the videos 👍
What cha waiting on... DO IT!!!! 🤘😎
That would be sick ive seen them break around the 600ish atw but alot of the time its from 2 step or miss shift would be cool to see what one could make on a engine dyno
Would be really cool to see how much one could make before it let's go. I'm sure you would get a lot of interest from the Honda guys out there
I approve this video
Aftermarket intake with double fuel rail will help a lot. Before the big bang you should run a few tests with hondata and the vtec tuning. Vtec makes a huge difference with the power curve.
we did tuning on the cams
@@richardholdener1727 I'm sure you did. I was saying a video showing before and after vtec optimization showing the gains you can achieve from doing so. I've seen some crazy gains on other Dyno videos showing low speed torque gains and high speed up gains and the blending of the cams to get a desired output.
Dont need 2 ramps. 2000cc inyector is good for a 1000hp or more
Hey Richard, years back when I was at Westech with some friends, tuning an engine on the engine dyno , there was a guy working there that had a turbo 4.3 S10 blazer. We went out to lunch in it and it was crazy fun. Just can’t remember who that was.
That was Big E-Ernie
I'm sure Alex Pagan could tell you exactly what a stock k24 can handle 👌
The first run, pump fuel at 15 degrees.. any sign of det? Wondering why the next run, on E85, was at 13 degrees advance. Also wondering if you're running the OEM vvt calibration.