Great darkFlash DK431 case, bad ARGB fans
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0:00 darkFlash DK431- Warning ahead
0:55 Quick Summary darkFlash DK431
2:31 DK431 Mesh specs, ARGB
4:06 Fans, rad support
5:37 Glass, I/O, PSU & Bottom
6:51 ARGB fan implementation
8:25 Build tips, build, testing
9:50 Thoughts on the DK431
10:56 For improvement...
12:16 darkFlash, you should...
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Can the fans be removed so you can install new ones
Yes they can!
bought new fans for this case. i chose the thermaltake c12c (3 120 front, 2 120 side, and 1 120 exhaust). i wont be using the molex fans anymore because they can raise gpu temps slightly if placed over psu shroud and raise cpu temps if placed on the top vents
Thank you for reviewing and taking note the clearance of the top for AIOs. I almost got this case only to know my Liquid Freezer 2 280 will have clearance issues
Yeah working with wider 280mm rads is rough in many cases. Might wanna look at the Cooler Master HAF 500, we just finished a build in that and the removable top panel supports 280mm and gives lots of room for top motherboard wiring. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
@@Techspin Thank you for the recommendation. I definitely subscribed the moment you mentioned the clearance on top of the case and best wishes for the growth of your channel! :)
Very detailed Review. Keep it up Bro👍
Cheers, thanks, and please subscribe!
Good thing you posted this case. Im thinking to upgrade my case to this fancy case for more airflow. Regarding with the fan, I think its gonna be extra cost since we need a better fan aftermarket.
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, if you're going RTX 40-series, might need to have some form of fan control! Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
@@Techspin im too broke for rtx 40. I am waiting for my friend to give me a gpu or im gonna save next year for aorus rtx 3060
Also can you make another video with after market fans and don't forget to put 3*120mm fans at the top of psu. I will really appreciate it.
Nice video fast and to the point. I just bought this case for my first build, Can I change the pre-install fan to better aftermarket fan?
Thanks for the praise! 😀 Sure, you can just swap them out. The price for buying four new ARGB fans, say like a 3-pack of Cooler Master Sickleflow or Halo is ~$60 USD though, which can be a high percentage of what the case cost (depending on country of purchase). Hope you can find an inexpensive upgrade. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
Great video! Thanks from Brazil!
You're welcome, thanks for the comment! Please subscribe! 😊
Hello, I have the exact same case. Unfortunately one of its built-in fans on the front, the top one in particular has stopped spinning 😔, the others still work though. The troubled top fan still has its light on it just won't spin despite basic troubleshooting, it's kinda alarming because when I touch in the middle of that fan, it's a bit hot to the touch but it doesn't seem to affect much my pc's temps, it ranges from 55-65 degrees celsius when I'm gaming.
Any tip on how I can make it work or spin again?
If not then, is it possible to replace that fan individually or would I have to remove the rest of those front fans that still functioning fans because I think they have this 3 in 1 single connector that is connected to the peripheral socket on my psu.
Is possible to remove those built in front fans and just get from another brand to replace those?
Need to replace the fan, hope it isn't the controller fan. Sorry to hear about this. Please subscribe, thanks for your support! You can replace with another brand, but don't wire the new brand into the darkFlash ones.
Did'nt understand your warning at start regarding the Molex connector , Can you please explain it I'm going to buy this case
Watch the whole episode and it'll make sense. Better yet, maybe consider another case instead which doesn't have this issue 😛Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
I'm actually curious if putting 3 more fans below the gpu w/c is vertically mounted can improve airflow and temps.
Vertically mounted? Not sure you'll have the 25mm fan depth clearance like that. Horizontally mounted thare may be space. If you're going to try this, I'd suggest moving the included 3x 120mm front fans to this location, and buy three proper 120mm fans that actually connect to your motherboard headers that can ramp up when your CPU/GPU is under load. That will have a much greater effect than the top of the PSU cover, but it can look nice. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
Hi there. I am looking to purchase this PC case, but I'm wondering how is one able to mount the 3 x 120mm fans on the PSU Cover as intake from the bottom?
Flip over the fans. There may be screws included to help mount them? If not, you'll need long screws to screw in from the top. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
@@TechspinThank you for your reply. I think I’ll go with the long screws from the top as there’s not enough room to screw in from the bottom and the screwdriver won’t fit in the small space. Cheers👍
Hi, I'm wondering if it's possible to remove the filter inside the front panel for cleaning, and is it possible to mount fans at the top of the case?
For the darkFlash DK431, the filter is integrated into the front with bent metal tabs, I wouldn't recommend trying to unbend them. Just vacuum and/or use a cloth to clean the filter. 2:35 you can see fans up top, and we tell you what sizes at 4:15 you can fit up there. Hope this helps. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
@@Techspin thanks for the info!
If i have dual fans gpu is it fine to have more negative airflow than positive for example i have 7 fans 4 fans pre included plus 3 top fans exhaust?
I think Gamers Nexus did some benchmarks on this, need to ggogle for it. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
Hy @Techspin . I am Trying To Buy This Pc Case WIth The Ryzen 5800x And 3080 ti .. What Should I Do ? Should I Remove The Fan And Install Other Fan or Aio .. Or It Will Be Fine For The Setup . Also My Room Gets Really Hot In summer . So What should i do please help ?
The key point is for the new hotter RTX 40-series. The 3080Ti certainly does produce heat, though with the included 4 fans you shouldn't hit any thermal throttling. Using a top mounted AIO for your CPU will have two benefits, it'll dump CPU heat directly outside the case, and you'll have two more fans pushing air out that will ramp up when you're gaming or rendering. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
Hy , Is There Any Software Available for The RGB ? How Can I change the colors in this . I can Only Change it Through the Button Contained Above the case .
You can connect the ARGB header to the motherboard, where your motherboard manufacturer will have software to control it. For example, if you have an MSI board, download MSI Center (older boards use Dragon Center) and you can control the ARGB from there, after you connect the ARGB wire from the fans to the motherboard. Hope this helps. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
what do you mean don't connect fans to molex connectors? How else will the fans get power?
The warning was: "Do not connect the fan interface black end to another Molex, as you’ll fry your whole ARGB setup and quite possibly your motherboard." If you're still using the 1983 connectivity system for your PC, that's fine, but don't chain it into this connector, just use another PSU line. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
Hi I got the same argb design on my DK352. I am looking to install 2 120mm exhaust on the top of the case. Is it okay to get a darkflash dr12 argb fans set and connect the stock argb fans on the fan hubs of the dr12 then connect is to my rgb headdr to sync? Please help me my friend I dont want any wiring problems my pc is just new 😢
Either the new ARGB fans will have proper wiring, or garbage like this. Either way, should connect.
Is it got enough space to put 4070 trinity? and
MSi Mag Core Liquid 360mm liquid cooler??
You'll need to look at the specs of each item compared to the case clearances. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
hi how did you remove the drive bay at the bottom of the case?
3:40 has all the answers you need 🙂Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
Your video is like the missing manual for this case. It took me a few hours to figure out the RGB connectors and all this mess with the molex connectors.
it's the first time I'm building a PC.
The problem seems to lie in the fact that they have separate LED/fan power. The LEDs run on 5V whereas the fans are running on 12V. It makes me want to solder the wires to get rid of that nasty chain of connectors🙃
Really glad we could help! Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
Im about to buy this case for my first pc build, i was wondering if i could avoid the whole molex situation/problem With just buying different fans?
This is not the case you're looking for *waves Jedi hand*
Check our HAF 500 review 😉
Got this case today because at Turkey , E-ATX cases are so expensive... Molex is a no problem for me because theese fans are silent at molex (%100 power). If you want you can get a Molex+ 3pin Case fan, connect it to the motherboard, and connect DK431's Molex to the new Case Fan's Molex extention... And only a solution that will cost a few bucks.
Update: The master fan on this case just died, causing the other 3 slave fans to stop spinning. So we have to replace the fans.
The problem with this is that DC/PWM case fans have a range of around 650-2000rpm depending on type/brand. At max rpm, fans are loud but they move a LOT of air. These fans are not loud, spinning slowly, and not moving a lot of air. Since these are capped running slowly at max 12v, there's no way to get them to go faster. So no, there's not a workaround... Except getting actual good fans.
@@Techspin I researched this case, the fans are 1200rpm 34CFM fans. Yes thats bad airflow but its quiet tier fans. 30-40CFM 12cm fans are quiet tier.
If a fan is 12cm , Id expect 60-80CFM for performance in cooling.
I upgraded this case from old cooler master silencio. I have 7600x , AK400 and rtx 3060ti. Cpu temp downed to 65 from 75-78 during gaming. My airflow improved.Also chipset and vrm temps are improved due to better airflow. But I sometimes feel that case fans have low airflow.
For now I supported my airflow with 2x 76cfm 1800 rpm 3pin fans from left side and bottom. Will replace the default fans when they wear off (My pc is on +12hours a day, dust will wear off them fast...)
Our master fan lasted 16 months before dying causing the other 3 linked fans to stop spinning. Warranty is 12 months 🚩 Hope your master lasts longer than ours did 😅
@@Techspin Yep , will get 4x deepcool argb or tuf gaming kit when it dies...
How to connect the doul connector that come connected to the three pins you mentioned in ARGB implementation ? 8:13
Need to have a motherboard that has an ARGB header to connect it. 5v ARGB is a 2-space-1 pin design, 12v RGB is 4 pin design. Usually they won't fit on the wrong connector, but be careful.
the front panel is hard to remove lol any tips
When we get/buy cases for review, we always triple check how the front is attached, standard way is with 4-6 grippy pegs, but some have had clips or screws, and in the early years I've broken a few! I think I covered removal in the video. Generally, some to quite a bit of ummph is required pulling outwards at the front panel's bottom. Good luck! 🤞🍀 Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
Is the side fans for intake or exhaust?
Intake is at the front (and bottom) and exhaust is top and rear. Since the side fans are near the front they will be intakes. Hope this helps. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
Like the look of the case, but way too expensive in Canada for what it offers. For about the same price you could get a Corsair 4000D or a DeepCool CG560
Yeah the cost really varies per country, unfortunately in Canada it's fairly high. Hope you find something more reasonably priced. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
@@Techspin It's not just more expensive, it's also all over the place lol. For example the NZXT H7 Elite on some sites is almost $800 while the H7 Flow is almost $200
Hi i bought dk431 recently and should i change the fans? Because you said it was dangerous? Im not familiar with the molex you’re talking about is that also replaceable to make sure my pc is safe?
If you don't have an RTX 40-series and follow the fan wiring instructions exactly, you'll be fine. Though the fans won't ramp up with higher heat loads. If it's your first time, always a good idea to have a tech friend help. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
@@Techspin okay thanks my gpu is rx580 dual fan
Thank you for warning guys. But I bought already their other case with same fans setup. I learned something about different ARGB designs with controllers... And with DF case I broke my mind yesterday totally lost with wires. I really dont understand where to plug 3pin "standard" ARGB connector or small 2pin conmector...
The ARGB connector from a controller would plug into the ARGB header on the motherboard, sometimes top right but usually along the very bottom headers. If your motherboard is older (more than 3 years?) it may not have any ARGB headers.
The small 2 pin connector on a ARGB controller would be where to plug in the case reset switch so you can change the light from the reset button without opening the case. I'd ask a tech friend to help you out with the wiring if possible, good luck! Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
@@Techspin I know how it must be connected by default with my extra ARGB controller/hub that comes with Darkflash Infinity8 fan kit. The problem is with default case installed fans. They are weird. As you stated. My motherboard is old without any light connectors, this is not a question. So I want to interconnect case fans with extra mentioned fans that I want to install additionally to case and to CPU cooler. I wrote to Darkflash last week, no answer.
@@andreyansimov5442 You can try plugging the case fan ARGB 3-pin into the controller (if it's also ARGB) and that may work. NOTE: Some cheaper companies may use 4-pin connectors for +5v ARGB, which would allow users to incorrectly connect to +12 RGB headers. Ensure the unit is actually ARGB! Good luck!
@@Techspin Its not a question, I know it for sure, its darkflash Infinity8 ARGB fan kit.
I buy it for just USD $50, the top and back clearance really good
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Can you do push-pull setup for 360mm AIO mounted top?
Why are you trying to do a crazy top end solution like that with the cheapest tiny case? No it won't work. Let me ask you, how thick is a push pull? Do you think most case manufacturers allow for the massive clearance needed for that up top? Push pull will be front only. Also, I've run push pull and for the few degrees difference it's totally not worth it, most cases you'll need custom bolts, fan mounting and wiring is a headache, and if you need to remove the AIO it takes 3x the time for removal and reassembly. Did I mention it's heavy and easy to damage mobo components? Don't do push pull 😂
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@@Techspin it's the only case that fits on my desk in a tight apartment. And the only case I found a way to fit 3xHDDs. Can't get rid of my 4TB hard drives yet until SATA SSDs become cheaper.
As for push-pull, I'm aware that it has minimal impact on temps. Why am I considering to do it? Because I can... And actually I just have ARGB+PWM lying around so why not give myself a headache to keep me busy lol. But thank you anyway.
@villarey.angelo Yeah the total thickness is usually 55mm for a normal rad + fan, and you'll add another 25mm with another fan set, so you'll run into lots of issues like blocking motherboard headers, ram releases and crucially, ram clearance. You really should only plan a push pull at the front, never up top, and good luck to you if you try! 🫡
@@Techspin well, will this case support front push-pull? Additionally, would AIO tube placement matter for front-mounted rad (top vs bottom)?
i found this one for 50$ , im from paraguay and i love this case
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can you send me the link
@@Beytullahingunlugu sure, but in my country we didnt have methods to send to another's country, it will be more expensive
Justo estoy viendo para comprar fachero está todo lo que necesito bueno bonito y barato
@@CapitanKali92 si sos de Paraguay podés comprar de CDE a 50 dólares se vende
I got scared on that RGB Molex fan frying something.
as long you dont put on the other side right, ?
just put all the fans molex in one plug like the one in the vid, and dont connect other stuff on it.
Can please clarify me >.< ty
Yeah this is actually pretty dangerous as we outlined in the video. It's true if you just use the one side, you'll be fine though. Better cases have been released like the CM HAF 500 which is a league above this one: ua-cam.com/video/31sLA5hfM50/v-deo.html Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
@@jlyaranon2954 Watch the video?
Guys, can somebody help? I bought this case recently and my fans are working but rgb on them don’t. I’ve connected all the molexes and tries connecting argb but none of this works, what should I do?
From the way you're describing the problem, I'm guessing you may have plugged the PSU molex into the wrong connector end of the chain. Best thing I can suggest try to get it covered under warranty. Swap to a better case if you're able. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
@@Techspin it was just a broken molex connector (orange one) in the case, just accidentally swapped one of the pins (that weren’t fixed in their positions) and now it works somehow 🤷♂️
I honestly believed that asus rgb software were blocking the whole thing 🥴
But thanks anyway!
@@Techspin it was just a broken molex connector (orange one) in the case, just accidentally swapped one of the pins (that weren’t fixed in their positions) and now it works somehow 🤷♂️
I honestly believed that asus rgb software were blocking the whole thing 🥴
But thanks anyway!
The molex connector pins can sometimes have issues as they can become dislodged. Another reason why this is a poor solution for RGB...
@@Techspin That was the problem in my case…
just bought something like this, now i want to add more fans above as exhaust, but dont know or cant find compatible fans. will have to buy new set of fan :(
Well if you're good with solid color for the darkFlash case fans, then just pick up regular Coolermaster Sickleflow ARGB and hook those up to your motherboard and match the color in software. Just make sure your motherboard has a ARGB header! Wish you luck. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
@@Techspin it has one argb and the dk351 fans is actually connected to it, but i just bought 2 3-in-1 pccooler halo, lol
There are ARGB splitters available, need to search for them
i like this pc case
8 fan, mesh case, dust filter
it is possible to install EATX motherboard 👍
Check the specs in the video or on manufacturers website. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
Can i control fan colors from motherboard ?
6:50 we cover this in the episode. But if you haven't bought this case, there are many better options with less dangerous wiring, so I'd choose one of those instead. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
Thanks for your kind information...
How to remove the front panel?
Watch the video! We show you! Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
I don’t understand the fan part, why is it dangerous and how to avoid?
Plug the Molex power only into the orange side connector. Unfortunately darkFlash is not using standard fan PWM/DC connectors or ARGB daisy chaining, and they don't block the other black end of the Molex chain which is dangerous for consumers. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
You can just change the fans and avoid this fiasco tho right?
With the money spent on new fans, you're better off just buying a better case! We'd recommend the Cooler Master HAF 500 as it's got great airflow, is feature rich and super easy to build in. Also this case metal is too thin and deforms easily, something we haven't experienced on any other cases. Please subscribe, thanks for your support!
@@Techspinhey i just wanted to give an update after I’ve purchased this case, I guess they must have listened to you because I bought the black version with no fans and it didn’t come with the Molex connector but I’m thoroughly pleased with this case, and how cheap it costed
@erronblack6763 Oh? Did it come with a 3 pin or 4 pin connector? Thanks for telling me!