The vision where she sees a man with arrows in him and a direwolf's head, sitting on the Iron Throne always gives me chills and I love the Robb Stark reference
@@ewanwatson5732 no, there is just the wolf's head on a human body. And there are arrows in his back. And if I am not mistaken there was even a room where she saw tables with slaughtered people.
@@ivanrenic4243 He's sitting at the head of a table at a feast holding a leg of lamb like a king has a scepter and his eyes follow her's with mute appeal and it does give most readers goose bumps, especially in retrospect.
I like to think Rhagar could only murmur "Leea," with his last breath, which could have been heard to be the end of Elia's name or the beginning of Lyana's name
@caterinahuguetnowicki3374 It's not always and the visions in the house of the undying aren't truth, because it exhibits details that didn't happen according to Ned and Robert. It most likely was a skewed because of Dany
I like to think it was his wife's name. Lyanna was safe at the tower of joy while Elia and her children were basically hostages of the mad king. The prince of dragonstone planned to slay his rebellious "cousin" and then restore order in the kingdoms. I imagine he wouldnt have bothered punishing Ned Stark or Jon Aryn but at this point Robert had caused such a ruckus he had to be put down. When his breastplate crushed his chest all his goals and plans for an era of peace and prosperity flashed before his eyes. Everything he failed to do including, most importantly, getting his children to safety "...lia"
11:42 There was a conversation between Tyrion and Varys where Varys tells Tyrion that “power resides wherever men believe it resides. No more or less”.. “A shadow on the wall, yet shadows can kill. Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow.” The image of the blue eyed king with a flaming red sword and no shadow is a man with no power.
I saw someone saying that “daughter of death” was probably referencing how aerys apparently was turned on by burning people alive and would usually go to his wife after. Daenerys was probably a product of one of these instances, conceived because of someone’s death, therefore: “daughter of death”
@@coconoisette I just saw an instagram post where some woman congratulated her son with his 15th birthday and described how her peach tear apart during the birth and some other details of concieving this poor guy lol Got the same "wtf" vibes from that post
I'm pretty sure the "white lion running through grass taller than a man" refers to Tyrion. He has white hair (in the books, that is) running from Westeros, and the grass being very tall could be that the lion is very small.
I wasn't sure if it means the grass is taller than a man, or if it means the lion is taller than a man. First language is german so I have no clue at this one. But I do think it could be tyrion as you say it.
FYI it would be the grass that is taller than the man - or, arguably, the man in question (the white lion) could be shorter than the grass. Given that Jon is a white wolf, the white lion could easily be Tyrion and therefore a Lannister - makes sense to me.
@@owlsayssouth From James HIbberd's _Fire Cannot Kill A Dragon_ - "[talking about the 2013 meeting with D&D] It wasn’t easy for me. I didn’t want to give away my books. It’s not easy to talk about the end of my books. Every character has a different end. I told them who would be on the Iron Throne, and I told them some big twists like Hodor and “hold the door,” and Stannis’s decision to burn his daughter."
13:36 I think its Aemon Targaryen. He's on a ship in Bravos when he is told about Daenerys's dragons. Corpse- he is about to die. Eyes bright- he is happy and excited for Daenerys, smiling sadly- because he wants to be with Dany, guide her and teach her but know he won't because he is about to die. Aemon says 'Another Targaryen alone in the world' Also love this video!
I thought that the prophecies where related with the message. When she saw the visions of Viserys, Rhaegar and Rhaego says "Daughter of Dead", what I understand as the deaths of her brothers and son make her the Mother of Dragons. When the Stannis, Aegon and the dragon of stone (I think will be one of Dany's dragons, who will capture by Qyburn and turned into zombie for fake Tommen's parentege) visions happen the undyigns says "Slayer of Lies". After, came the visions of Silver in her first night, the men in the ship and the winter rose at the wall, and they say "Bride of Fire" what I thought would be about tragic relationships she will have. Anyways, what you say makes a lot of sense.
"A corpse stood at the prow of a ship..." could be the Damphair. Aeron Greyjoy was tied up to Euron's prow, died by the sea as he wanted, grey lips from the shade of the evening. Otherwise it might be the wildlings at Hardhome on the ships from Eastwatch. Mellisandre does say the mission is doomed.
Man the writers were literally given entire books and they managed to mess up after season 4. I can appreciate their hard work and all but really there was so much more they could've done and included. Having half the seasons based on the books and half on their own work left the show with so many plot holes.
I mean, they had up until Jon died and Danny is still in Mereen. They did chop up the seasons but to be fair they didn’t have all the material. There are still 2 books that aren’t completed yet from ASOIAF 😢
@@fort809 how so? What 2000 pages were those that they had that weren’t adapted? Are you meaning to tell me that D&D adapted according to what GRRM wrote in Winds and A Dream? They took the series the way they wanted. The book series isn’t finished. Were season 7-8 bad yes, did it end bad yes. But they developed some characters really well.
in light of recent spoilers its kinda crazy seeing how accurate were with your predeictions. I'm even more interested in seeing how this will be in the book.
@@mistermatschbanane7584 GRRM will die and the books won't end This haunts me the most All of this wild theory fest since the last 11 years and we couldn't get the next book A closure..
I never felt like Jorah betrayed Dany. He was working for the Iron Throne before he knew her. He betrayed the Iron Throne for Dany. It was still treachery, and his actions put her in danger, but... yeah.
“So Dany takes the drugs offered by the strange man” cause you know, you’re finding yourself abroad, you’re already a little tipsy and what’s the harm in some good clean pharmaceuticals
The "mount to dread" being Drogon is also interesting as Aegons dragon, Balerion, was known as the Black Dread and there are frequent comparisons between Balerion and Drogon...
The treason for gold could be Viserys' willingness to betray her for a golden crown by trying to steal the dragon eggs and threatening to cut Rhaego out of her belly.
charvisiokuu1 Book to show confirmation of Dany’s prophecy? The fires lit by Danny: Life- Khal Drogo (also the birth of her dragons), Death- Jorah, Love- Kings Landing (she wanted to be loved for conquering Westeros, but all she gets is fear)? The mounts: Bed- Drogo? (Duty of marriage?), Dread- Hizdahr zo Loraq (as she dreaded making the compromise to appease the peace), Love- Jon Snow Treasons: Blood- Drogo’s blood sacrifice to save his life, Gold- Jorah, Love- Jon Snow
I don't think the final part of Daenerys vision in the show is her reconnecting with the past. I think it is quite literally her joining her dead husband and child in death after she goes beyond the wall.
Dany fulfills all of the azor ahai prophecy before we even learn about it. It’s why people have so many wild theories. Normally you find out a prophecy and then it occurs, not having it fulfilled then it’s learned.
Betrayal for gold = Viserys He didn't literally betray her and not for gold but this is how it ended up to be. Being given to Drogo was seen by Dany as her brother's betrayal and a golden crown was all Viserys got in the end. So, I believe, it can be said that he betrayed her for gold.
could you make a video on the real daenerys, just like you did with tyrion? it would be great if more people could know about her canon book character rather than the version that was butchered in the show!
I actually don't think that Daenerys' character ending will be that much different in the books. I think it's just easy to blame something external than be confronted with unwittingly having supported an unstable homicidal maniac. I myself was a huge fan of her, until I realized with season 7 that she was a cautionary tale about strongman characters and saviour figures. It was uncomfortable to have this realization, as I was confronted with how I was actually glorifying her acts of extreme violence, as it was in my interest to see antagonists like the slave masters be defeated and the slaves freed. Considered one of the greatest U.S. presidents for his New Deal policies and wartime leadership, Franklin D. Roosevelt was still responsible for the arbitrary mass internment of people of Japanese ancestry during WW2 and was also known for having an autocratic tendency in his governing style. George R. R. Martin often says that he finds the greatest inspiration in history and loves writing about the greyness within the human heart. So I believe it only makes sense that Daenerys' is the story of how volatile the perception of a hero can become, when lit up from all sides (pun intended).
@@mataya-waldenberg Well that doesn't really make sense in the context of the books. Currently, Daenerys is fighting a war against the slaveowners and nobility of Essos -- these slaveowners are spreading horrible & defaming lies about her (saying she bathes in blood, sleeps with animals, calling her a "monster" whose "true sin" is her anti-slavery perspective). Why would GRRM include these passages if his main goal is to represent Daenerys as a villain? It's specifically the slaveowners who despise her -- compare this with what The Widow of the Waterfront has to say about her. Read that chapter. Not to mention that in GRRM's other novel 'Fevre Dream' (1982), he writes that "[slavery] has got to end even if it has to be with fire and blood" -- clearly, GRRM recognises that ending slavery is difficult and will be a bloody, arduous process. This doesn't mean Daenerys is a villain; in fact, there's no textual evidence that Daenerys is a villain. GRRM takes care to paint Daenerys' actions in a positive light, through purposeful linguistic choices and symbolism. E.g. Daenerys' liberation of Astapor is directly paralleled with her dream about Rhaegar on the Trident, facing enemies that are "armoured in ice" -- this scene is followed directly after Daenerys talking to Barristan about "justice" being the quality of a "true king", hence we are invited to see Daenerys' dream of burning an ice army with dragonfire as justice. And yes, Kraznys (the slaver who Daenerys burns in Astapor), is described to melt just like the ice army in Daenerys' dream. Another thing that proves to me that Daenerys' ending will not be like the TV Show is that GRRM changed the birth order of Alysanne and Jaehaerys' children -- he added a child named Daenerys. Look at how that child died, and compare that to Dany IX in AGOT. Jaehaerys wanted his daughter to have a dragon to heal her; Dany's ancestors urge her to embrace the dragon to flee from the "icy breath" -- Dany survives! Plus, Alysanne was adamant that her daughter would be a "great queen" (Alysanne is rarely wrong... so I believe this great queen will be Daenerys Stormborn). I also want to mention that the TV show made Daenerys much more violent; in the books, Daenerys is the one who controls her advisors' bloodlust and she is a brilliant teenage strategist. She has immense empathy and kindness for the disenfranchised, bathes and feeds sick people, refuses to let dwarfs fight in the fighting pits because they have not consented, insists that food should be given to the poor instead of being thrown away. In the books, Dany never threatened to burn down Qarth and other cities (unlike the TV show). She's also rebuilding Meereen by planting trees, promoting the freedmen to work, improving the city, taking taxes to weaken the noble families and invest in Meereen (etc).
@@benneycopper2760 Yep! Quite literally the Mother of Dragons! (Side-note: I’ve always wondered why GRRM would make reptiles drink milk… most likely he wanted to show that Dany’s bond with her dragons is special/unique - that they behave almost like human children; she is literally their mother and they are an extension of her. This is further enforced through the constant references in the text to Dany being fire (“the fire is mine”/“the fire within her, and the whisperings of stars”/“the bride of fire”) and dragons are described as “fire made flesh”. Her connections to her dragons are also seen in how she could feel something “twist and stretch” inside the stone eggs when she touched them - she also “could feel the heat” of her stone eggs but Jorah only felt “cold stone” when he touched them.)
The fact she reached for throne but didn't touched it, she did the same thing with Drogo and Rhaego. That means she focused on present and I think that was a test (just like Jojen and Three Eyed Raven said if you stay too long i visipns you lose yourself and present or something similar) to make her stay at HoU and she snaped out of all those visions.
It could also mean she is within touching distance of it as she was after destroying a large part of the Lannister army.. Yet she walked away because their were more important issues beyond the wall.. She went to fight for humanity's cause.. Beyond the wall she meets Drogo, who initially bought her & raped her, then she learnt how to love, & she became the moon in his eyes.. It could mean her true love was beyond the wall who will give her a child!!
She was being manipulated by the warlocks. They wanted to to tempt her, so they showed her visions of what she wanted most in the world (The Iron Throne and her family) to try and get her to accept that as her reality while they enslaved her in real life.
If Stannis' fate (and Shirreen's) ends up being anything like it is in the show, it'll really make that line from Danaerys' vision about seeing a 'king who casts no shadow' seem pretty poetic. Especially since Varys uses a shadow as a metaphor for influencing the world when talking to Tyrion. Stannis and his entire line is wiped out in his pursuit of the crown, so he casts no shadow in the way that Tyrion is a small man who casts a long shadow.
I think it's fairly obvious that Viserys is the treason for gold. Viserys was stealing Daenerys's dragon eggs, intending to sell to the traders of Vaes Dothrak for gold to buy himself a sellsword army and then is killed with a golden crown (which could be a point where Dany "betrays" her brother as well)...I think the reason people are confused on this point is the order. If the betrayal for blood is Mirri Maz Duur, why Viserys be mentioned after that when his betrayal was first...the thing is, all of the prophecies are mentioned in a random order. You'll have Viserys, Rhaegar and Rhaego, which is recent past, far past, and impossible future. The only prophecy that is not shown is the "fire to love, mount to love, treason for love" which all seem to point to Jon Snow.
Viserys stealing the dragon eggs isn't much of a treason. Dany didn't consider them that important at the time, and actually offered to let Viserys have them, but he was already picking a fight with drogo so he died anyway.
at 11:23 I always felt that the 'casts no shadow' line referred to the fact that in terms of being Azor Ahai, Stannis had no substance or true value. He is built on glamours and forced asthetic, but in terms of the prophecy he is not really tangibly present. Also please keep up this amazing work, and I'd love to see you turn your hand to some other works like the Expanse Saga (though I've never seen the actual show)
On the “casts no shadow,” I’ve always related it to how a small man can cast a big shadow. The opposite is how a big man can cast a small, or no, shadow; this would be a mummer’s hero. I’ve recently seen a riddle that identified fire does not cast a shadow (it makes shadows dance, but there is no shadow of a flame). So I wonder if the fire wights cast shadows. Does Barrick Dundarien and Lady Stoneheart cast a shadow. Will the hero with the glowing sword cast a shadow?
To add, if fire wights are of fire, and if fires have no shadows of their own flames, then should we infer that fire wights too would have no shadows of themselves? If this makes sense, then for this “king who cast no shadow”, is this king of fire too, is he a fire wight? But what about the “blue-eyed” part? That is what happens to the wights, that is to say that is what happens to those whom are slain by the Others and their minions, those whom are of the domain of ice. So is this “blue-eyed” king an ice wight? What happens when a fire wight is slain by the Others and is made into an ice wight? A fire wight is resurrected by fire, and an ice wight is resurrected by ice, so is this a Fire and Ice wight? The first of his kind? The first of his name?
Another potential explanation to Stannis casting no shadow is that he leaves no lasting legacy on Westeros. For all the books focus on him, he hasn't really managed to DO anything, outside of ensure the destruction of his house. When Stannis dies, House Baratheon dies with him.
During the A Feast for Crows's Prologue is mentioned that, according to Archmaester Benedict, Renly Bratheon is slain before Balon Greyjoy crowns himself, meaning that there are never five kings at once. So, it might explain Daenerys's vision about Westeros.
Couldn't the fires refer to each one of her dragons and the role they'll have? A fire for life is drogon, a fire for death is viserion (because it Will end up with night King and the army of the dead) and the fire to love is reagal that can be ridden by Jon as a targaryan (and actually has his father's name) As well as the rides can mean her sexual partners. Dario as the one for bed (sexual pleasure), Drogo as the one for dread (because of what happened with the baby and with him) and Jon as the one for love. What do you guys think?
The Night King isn't a character in the books, at least that we know of yet, but more of a mythological figure. If Dany does lose one of her dragons in the books, it will most likely be to Euron Greyjoy.
I think if any of the dragons lives on it will be viserion. SHE will be the only legacy left of the Targaryens. She’s literally a Targaryen in dragon form and showing nesting behavior. I personally believe drogon is female too. I believe rhaegal will betray her because he is mirris sacrifice and much like her.
For Danny's vision in the show: the broken throne room could have snow on it, or ash. And the throne room could mean many things. - snow meaning the dead have arrived into king's landing and destroyed the red keep, and she survived somehow roaming the wasteland with her dragon (the torch could signify her last dragon). Or (Snow/Stark) will take over the throne. - Or it's ashes from Cersei having burned downed King's landing and she's left with nothing (from the season 8 teaser trailer). - Or the fact that when Daenerys' tries to reach for the throne and touch it could signify that she will not get the throne, (likely from dying or Jon getting the throne) After she tries to touch the throne you could hear two faint scream or screech, facing where the gates of the wall appears, signifying that one or two of her dragons may die (one already did) from the dangers beyond the wall. And her entering the tent with Drogo just foreshadows her joining him in death, and that when spring comes maybe the sun does rise and set on the opposite since GRR said there will be a fix to this weird climate in Westoros.
Not really. No new books have come out, nothing has changed. If the show's ending were an indicator of what the books will be like then we must as well not bother.
3 fires must you light means 3 dragon that she will birth (as mother of dragon) 1 for life means for herself and will be her own dragon 1 for death means that 1 dragon will dead (and now we all know) and become The (Dead) Night King's dragon 1 for love means that the las dragon will belong to someone that Dany loves (Right ow after s07 probably belong to Jon Snow)
The visions in the show were all about temptation. The warlocks were trying to tempt her with the things she wanted more than anything to get her to accept a dream reality so she would be enslaved. But she resisted the temptation of the Iron Throne, and rejected Drogo and Rhaego as a dream she could never have, at which point the warlocks had to resort to more direct means.
Watching this now at the end of season 8, some things that we have seen make more sense and others just create more questions. Need a follow up of this...
I have read theories that say that Bran whispered "Burn them all" to the mad king, referring to the white walkers. But maybe Bran wasn't talking about the white walkers. Maybe, if it was Bran that told the mad king to "burn them all", he was trying to prevent everything that came to pass after Robert took the throne. The death of his mother, brothers and father, for instance.
@@Afdog I don't believe so. The Lannisters beat the rebellion to King's Landing after the battle of the trident. Ned and his force was outside of King's Landing to my understanding. Could be wrong.
@@fordliby6543 maybe, but I had a feeling that Aerys plan was to burn everyone including stark-baratheon-lannister forces It’s a big city, I’m sure there was a time when everyone is inside the walls
Someone pointed something out regarding the silver-haired rider under the burning stallion and the burning city behind him: Someone claimed that it was actually Aegon, who at this point, is already in Westeros. Aegon is described as having silver hair, purple eyes and tan skin. But what really sticks out is the fact that he has the Golden Company with him. The Golden company was founded by Aegor Rivers, also known as Bittersteel. He was one of Aegon IV's (the Unworthy) great bastards. His mother was Barba Bracken, Aegon's fifth mistress. When he was legitimised, he mixed both of his parents' banners together; with house Bracken's red horse and house Targaryen's dragon, his banner became a red horse with black wings with fire coming out of its mouth. That is the theory regarding "the silver-haired rider with copper skin"; it is not Rhaego, but it's Aegon riding with the Golden Company in Westeros.
No, people are not saying that the house with the red door and the lemon tree can't be in Bravos, because trees are rare in Bravos, but because Bravos climate is cold and rainy, in the books. Master Aemon basically freezes to death in the books, when they stay in Bravos because he gets sick and they can't afford to buy wood for a fire. A lemon tree can not grow in the climate of Bravos but it is repeatedly mentioned that lemon trees are growing in Dorn. For example when Sansa talks about Lemon Cake.
Which seems to be a nod towards the fact that Jon and Dany were birth born in Dorne. It's a little ironic when you think about it; Dorne resisted Aegon's conquest the longest and only came around on the grounds of political marriage, and even then still upheld several favors that other kingdoms were denied. So the place that never submitted to Targaryens is the one where the two remaining Targaryens come from. (Excluding Aegon here since there's a high possibility he ain't a true Targaryen)
Trees are indeed very rare in Braavos though. Though I think the house was in Braavos, but in the Sealord's palace, where's there's a huge garden. Remember that a deal was sealed between the Targaryens and Martells, and that the Sealord served as a witness. They were staying with him, but were kicked out when he died and a new Sealord was elected.
Thanks to this videos I fell in love with the TV series because all this background stories made plot so much deeper. This impact was so strong that after the show ended I started reading books. Now here I am, just finished "Daenerys and the house of undying" chapter and it was so magical and mysterious that I came back here so video will help me understanding it better. Alt shift x thanks for all of this!
Nicely organized and presented. I think it's consistent with Martin's approach to have various characters interpret the prophesies and dreams differently, and to never actually find some neat and tidy fit. Just as in real life, there will be those who think they have found 'the answer', and some who bring things about because they believe it's been foretold, as well as some who see no real connection between the dreams/prophesies and events. Look at how variously the characters interpret the coming of the red comet. There is no 'correct' interpretation. It simply means different things to different people.
Quick interpretation of the show version of her visions: 1. Dani reaches Westeros and have perhaps even taken Kings Landing at this point, but because of the threat of the White Walkers and the long night (symbolized through snow in the throne room) she can't sit on the throne to rule just yet. 2. Therefore she makes way to the wall to face the White Walkers and the army of the dead. My interpretation is that she will some way lose her life during this fight. This leads us to the third vision where Dani and Drogo are reunited in the afterlife. Of course I may be totally wrong about this, and I probably am.
HOLY SHIT *[book spoilers]* @Alt Shift X "A corpse stood at the prow of a ship, eyes bright in his dead face, grey lips smiling sadly" DUDE This is Maester Aemon TARGARYEN dying on the ship with Sam and Gilly while they travel to Oldtown in AFFC! I'm sure of it!!
Victorion has the firey zombie hand too which is key, and is en route to mereen by the end of Dance. Dany is also warned by quilate of the krakens arrival.
Kinda sad that the comments are all about the dick. I want to know what people think of this video, and if they agree with the theories/have theories of their own.
Treason for Blood: betraying Viserys (unintentionally?) that boosted her position as the last Targaryen heir Treason for Gold: betraying the slave masters to get the Unsullied and other resources Treason for Love: ???
The original video (that is unlisted in their channel now) has more comments about the theories. Here is the link if you want to check it out: /watch?v=AUIP7kWU8J0
They don't show the sword Stannis has in the show, but he basically has some crazy magic sword called Lightbringer which fits the description perfectly. And obviously, he doesn't have a shadow because Mel used it to kill Renly and later Cortnay Penrose.
The Ice King is from Adventure Time. But yeah I agree, I interpreted that particular vision Dany had as being of the Night's King. I was confused because he's wielding a burning sword...but I don't count anything out until the books are released.
I disagree with your interpretation in regards to Rhago being the Stallion that Mounts the World. It's not Rhago, it's Dani herself. Rhago's birth is what started the chain reaction that set the Khaleesi on her path. She is the stallion, she is the one who united the tribes of the Dothraki.
Nice that this video is still so relevant in the middle of season 8, good job also ;D Wanted to remember all the prophecies, especially the dany in the throneroom dream, so thank you for this video ;D
My interpretation of the warlock visions in the show is that they weren't prophecy. It seemed to me that the warlocks were trying to distract Dany with whatever they could (power, family, etc.) to keep her away from her dragons.
+Vanalovan all of Dany's visions are prophetic and some of her visions have actually happened and then there are some of the visions that have not happened yet but will happen
imagine if in the series when deanarys said shes going home and all those boats and 3 huge dragons flying behind her and she just turns up to the house at the red door with an army of dothraki and a fleet of greyjoy... The ultimate troll
Now that I think about it I think the betrayal for love could be Ilyrio supporting Aegon, that is assuming the theory that Ilyrio is Aegon's father and that he is a blackfyre is correct which I personally believe is. Because she sees Ilyrio as a true ally from the beginning always helping her and keeping her safe but he actually has been trying to get Aegon, a blackfyre, on the iron throne (love of course because it's his son). Thought tbh it very much could go an insane amount of ways but yeah, that's just a thought I had. :)
3:54 - 3:58 is giving me scooby doo vibes “and he would have gotten away with it too if it weren’t for those meddling kids / weren’t for that meddling kid”
The three fires are Drogo's pyre, the Dothraki khalasar, and finally herself. The three mounts are Drogo, Victarion, Jon. The treasons are Mirri Maz Duur, Jorah, and Varys: his love of the realm.
it's only a week left to the final episode and i still can't fully predict what will happen. but you had seen that all coming from 3 years ago. respect.
@@drunkwy4727 re-watch the video he talks about the azor ahai. azor ahai killed his wife to win the war against the white walkers that's not why jon killed dany he killed her because she became the westrosie hitler and it's not a treason for love "a treason for duty" is more accurate way to describe her death actually this prophecy wasn't mentioned in the show and it safe to say dan&david didn't care about fulfilling it.
@@MahaHMA this prophecy did in the vision in house of undying. She had a vision, when she wanted to touch the iron throne, she heard sonething and she went north to the dead drogo and her dead son. Its obvious that she heard Jon, he called her to go north to help him vs walkers. Jon killed her and sent her to the dead Drogo and her son. Its symbolic that she met Drogo at the north of the wall.
You didn't talk about why there is snow falling in the tv version throne room. I think it is to signify that winter will fall upon westeros, and she never quite touches the throne because the battle against the white walkers will become more important than her quest for the throne (which is what we're starting to see now)
Didn't GRRM pretty much verify the house with the red door is not in Braavos during an interview or in an email? He mentioned something about the climate not being right to grow lemons, I think...
There's a third possibility for the name Rhaegar was whispering as he died. Visenya, his prophesized third head of the dragon who would make it all worth it.
If GRRM is unable to finish the final 2 books, this is the man who should do it. He truly is gifted; like a Ph.D. in the world of Westeros. I even heard GRRM say one time that one of the fans of Ice&Fire could probably do it. It is not unheard of. There is a woman writing as Agatha Christie now and after Stieg Larsson's untimely death after writing the first 3 Millennium books, there is a Swedish writer, David Lagercrantz, who has written 3 more follow-ups.
Apologies if somebody has posted this: But I assume the passage about the "King with the flaming sword... casts no shadow" was about the fact that Stannis was not the real Azor Ahai. The reason he cast no shadow was because the Lord of Light was not actually shining on him
Just pointing out that Aerys gave the order after Tywin betrayed him, not after the Battle of the Trident, and he was referring to Tywin, not Robert, as he though Tywin was trying to usurp his throne.
Thank you, I don't know why nobody ever mentions that. The freakin' throne is covered in Snow. Jon Snow owns the throne not Dany, that's why she never gets the chance to touch it.
@@imArEbElAngEl If its the Night King wouldnt it be mist like the ones in the crypts of winterfell teaser for the next season? or maybe even ice? i think snow jus literally means snow
I’ve just realised that the vision Daenerys has of whom we all presume to be Rhaego could also be “FAegon” - copper skin (from his Dornish mother) and silver hair (from Rhaegar). And Daenerys specifically calls the man in the vision a lord, not a khal. And burning cities, indicating FAegon’s invasion.
I’d really love a whole video from you dedicated to how Dany’s story will end in your opinion. I know you mention some opinion of it sometimes but I’d love a whole video
@@NoOne-qy2yf George himself said that prophecy is basically bullshit. Not that they are wrong, they just screw characters over. Cersei especially. It is not a prophecy, it is fear of that prophecy.
@@saranemcova5448 Yeah, the show never touched on any of those betrayal visions, and in the books Xaro Xhoan Daxos is alive and well and still supporting Dany.
After watching the latest episode, it looks like Jon will be atleast two of the last remaining visions of love 1. Light a fire to love: They fell in love or because Dany gave her dragon to Jon; 2. Ride a mount to love: They made love or because they both rode a dragon; 3. A treason for love: Jon killing Dany to become Azor Ahai (?) I have not the slightest idea how they gonna do it, but I am for almost 100% sure that Dany is going to die this last season.
Just before the vision of prince Rhaegar says "There has to be one more" as in three dragon heads, or three children, he looks straight at Daenerys! She can see him looking at her and when he speaks, she's not sure if he was talking to her or the ghost woman in the bed (Elia). It seems here that in the House of the Undying, Daenerys saw things past and present and future. It's possible that when she was seeing her brother from many years ago, he saw a vision of her. He might've seen her and knew that she was a vision but didn't know that she was his baby sister.
Lydi@ yeah I always took the fires to be ones she did with her own hands. Like lighting the funeral pyre and knocking over the oil lanterns. The other ones were just ones she commanded her dragons to light.
Bran sees a dragon flying from the debris of Winterfell, doesn't he? I remember being very confused when I read that and I couldn't find a proper explanation online. It fits that vision of Dany's.
This is why Phropecy is such a dangerous thing to know. You get fixated on it. Cersei and her phropecy, Rhaegar and his phropecy, Daenerys and her phropecy, they all choose choices that's not neccesarilly logical, but they believed that it's the right thing to do, based on Phropecy.
Or white walker john snow. He is already undead in the show (therefor no shadow). Becoming a White(and getting the blue eyes) could be a reason why he would kill Danny and bring about lightbringer. Something about her death could then break the spell over John as a white, leading him to fight and defeat the nightking with the flaming sword. It would also fulfill the prophesy of "a treason for love".
Being undead doesn't mean no shadow... no where in either the books or the show does it say anything like that... they're still physical beings, so they'll cast shadows. Don't the wights cast shadows?
Or it is Stannis. Stannis has blue eyes, like his brothers Renly and Robert. Stannis has a sword called Lightbringer, enchanted by Melisandre to cast light in red, yellow, orange, and white, shifting colors every other second.
This video predicted that Dany will love Jon, have sex with him and get killed by him years ahead of the show. I believe that JRR Martin truly had the show's events in mind for the books ending. However, due to the anger surrounding how the show ended, he need to overhaul everything and change the ending. Probably one of the reasons why he is in no hurry to finish the books.
Still a great video 4 years and one terrible finale season later! You really highlighted how beautifully complex the book’s HOTU scene was compared to the kindergarten version in season 2. Will look forward to seeing how the books will solve these prophecies.
Great content. Really accurate. Although I don't think the dragons will be of service when it comes to killing white walkers in the books. because since GRRM paused to write fire and blood i think the information he gives us there, tells us what can the dragons do. and in fire and blood the good queen alysanne when she visits the wall tries to pass beyond the wall. she fails three times. “Thrice I flew Silverwing high above Castle Black, and thrice I tried to take her north beyond the Wall,” Alysanne wrote to Jaehaerys, “but every time she veered back south again and refused to go. Never before has she refused to take me where I wished to go. I laughed about it when I came down again, so the black brothers would not realize anything was amiss, but it troubled me then and it troubles me still.” (Fire and Blood 263) We do not know why Silverwing didnt obey her. It may be the spells the children of the forest put on the wall or it may be that dragons just dont like cold. Her account in Fire and Blood actually supports this. Therefore, I don't think we will see much of the dragons in the north fighting with the white walkers. I don't actually think that we will ever see a fight in the north between the white walkeers and humans. I think it will be averted with something Bran and the children of the forest does.
How precisely was he wrong about "the prince who was promised"? Jon Snow is literally the song of ice and fire. The vision was never about his son Aegon, it was about Jon Snow. There has been overlap between the Prince who was promised and Azor Ahai, so the prophecy may still very well hold true.
In the books is not really clear that jon snow is rhaegar's son, in fact along with arya are the only ones what looks exactly like eddard stark, and the mistery behind this "aegon" who proclaim is the youngest son of rhaegar, but how he survive could be related to varys plan or being a fake, in other fact theres a boy in dorne with the dayne family with the name gerold dayne with pretty much the genetics of the targaryens all over him, white hair, purple eyes, and i find curious the amount of hate he has for the house lannister when he tried to kill myrcella, the only weird thing on him is having a streak of midnight black and that just a bunch of all the characters in the books who could bring a surpride in the saga because with martin you never know
@@raulmora442 Is not really clear? This is one theory that exit since the first book, two decades ago, if it was so obvious that people realized in that time (and the show confirm), is impossible for GRRM to don't put it in the books.
Your channel has great content and theories. I especially liked your commentry on Cerci's conflicted issues on power and being a woman and how she views other women. It's very well described and appears accurate for character.
This vision is symbolic of self realisation. It represents what many great thinkers have expressed. We are all capable of horrible acts and we must realise this before we can move past it. This is representing choice, you may see snow and think winter is coming. However the buildings also damaged and broken, Empty and cold. Symbolically representing that if you follow this line of power you can reach out and take it, however it will destroy you, it will be cold, dark and lonely. The opposite is going beyond the wall and realising what is of value, humanity, and forgetting and moving past the throne and the genocide you are prepared to commit to command it. Internal struggle between good and evil, morality. So she reaches for the throne, her dark lust that will destroy her, but is reminded of family. She also leaves them though however realised the importance. This will mean sacrifice, she must overcome we power lust of destruction, and sacrifice what she has been reminded to value. This happens beyond the wall symbolically. The wall is only used here as a divider between humanity and power. Not that she literally sacrifices beyond the wall. What does she hold dear enough to climax a sacrifice? Dragons? Herself? It's been building to make her seem ruthless so sacrificing herself wouldn't be as powerful as realising that what matters is love and light only to lose it. However only the dragons seem to have been built to a meaningful relationship. I think she must forget the throne. Be reminded in a huge way and make a choice to value life again. Then I think Jorah returns cured. They have a close moment after all that's happened. Then she must sacrifice herself and the dragons to return a balance. Fire and ice both destroyed and life flourishes again. John then must go too, only after his encounter with the nights King, and loses, perhaps being similar to cold hands, and must die (ending) As it will transpire the doom was intended to create this balance, but failed. Danny will succeed but must show the transformation first. Tyrion will sit the throne or rather be tasked to rebuild, little finger will die in a plight for power at the hands of Sansa. Bran will be lost in the Owls wood place and remain with the children there. Cersei will die. Jamie however will not killer Cersei as it repeats the kingslayer story, instead will have a chance to save her, but doesn't. He then will either outcast or leave with Brianna (perhaps one the few good endings) Arya will meet the red woman, and will be told about the north, however she will die. The red woman will realise her God is evil and will die fast of old age after breaking connection. The fire and ice connection will show both are evil, and both somehow created by mortals, the children and men. It will all end with a maester closing a book and revealing it was all history.
I do not think that Jon will kill Dany... first he doesn't know about Azor Ahai predictions and he already has a sword that can kill night walkers and very probably the Night King which the first Azor Ahai did not possess...Never mind a dragon that very likely can kill the night king... We no longer can rely on the books for predictions simply because they are not there... and as we are clearly told predictions do not necessarily come to pass... and the TV show might go for a slightly different ending. After so much violence and visibly some more to come we might want a somewhat happier end...
I think it's possible that Jon dies along with her dragons fighting the night king , leaving Danny alone to dance with her ghosts. the song is deffinetly foreshadowing the death of Jon or Daenerys.
The vision where she sees a man with arrows in him and a direwolf's head, sitting on the Iron Throne always gives me chills and I love the Robb Stark reference
@lady galadriel why should it be different?
@lady galadriel It's simple. You imagine the scenario, and naturally react. Like television, but in your head. The ancients called it "imagining."
It's supposed to be Bran because he can warg into his direwolf and eventually (in the show at least) goes to sit on the iron throne
@@ewanwatson5732 no, there is just the wolf's head on a human body. And there are arrows in his back. And if I am not mistaken there was even a room where she saw tables with slaughtered people.
@@ivanrenic4243 He's sitting at the head of a table at a feast holding a leg of lamb like a king has a scepter and his eyes follow her's with mute appeal and it does give most readers goose bumps, especially in retrospect.
"Dany takes the drugs from the strange man and enters [his] House..."
What. A. Sentence.
Ꮤιɴтʀє noċṭυʀnє She so naive
We've all done that at least once amiright?
dany gone psychedelic
Pyrite Pree is definitely Bill Cosby!
Uh... Phrasing
I like to think Rhagar could only murmur "Leea," with his last breath, which could have been heard to be the end of Elia's name or the beginning of Lyana's name
i love that omfg
The asoiaf app, which is canon, already confirmed that Rhaegar's last word was Lyanna
@caterinahuguetnowicki3374 It's not always and the visions in the house of the undying aren't truth, because it exhibits details that didn't happen according to Ned and Robert. It most likely was a skewed because of Dany
this should be canon 👍
I like to think it was his wife's name. Lyanna was safe at the tower of joy while Elia and her children were basically hostages of the mad king. The prince of dragonstone planned to slay his rebellious "cousin" and then restore order in the kingdoms. I imagine he wouldnt have bothered punishing Ned Stark or Jon Aryn but at this point Robert had caused such a ruckus he had to be put down. When his breastplate crushed his chest all his goals and plans for an era of peace and prosperity flashed before his eyes. Everything he failed to do including, most importantly, getting his children to safety "...lia"
11:42 There was a conversation between Tyrion and Varys where Varys tells Tyrion that “power resides wherever men believe it resides. No more or less”.. “A shadow on the wall, yet shadows can kill. Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow.”
The image of the blue eyed king with a flaming red sword and no shadow is a man with no power.
Cool theory bro
now that is very interesting.
Stannis?
@@fionnghallselma7193 Definitely Stannis. He has blue eyes in the books and the flaming red sword hints at the Lightbringer prophecy.
Could also reference his shadow being used to kill Renly?
I saw someone saying that “daughter of death” was probably referencing how aerys apparently was turned on by burning people alive and would usually go to his wife after. Daenerys was probably a product of one of these instances, conceived because of someone’s death, therefore: “daughter of death”
Imagine getting a prophecy about your parents' kinks smh
@@coconoisette I just saw an instagram post where some woman congratulated her son with his 15th birthday and described how her peach tear apart during the birth and some other details of concieving this poor guy lol
Got the same "wtf" vibes from that post
@@AfdogJesus. Just tell your kid you hate them and spare the details
@@Afdog Someone is going into a nursing home when they are older.
@@MacaroniJudas can't blame the guy
I'm pretty sure the "white lion running through grass taller than a man" refers to Tyrion.
He has white hair (in the books, that is) running from Westeros, and the grass being very tall could be that the lion is very small.
I wasn't sure if it means the grass is taller than a man, or if it means the lion is taller than a man.
First language is german so I have no clue at this one.
But I do think it could be tyrion as you say it.
FYI it would be the grass that is taller than the man - or, arguably, the man in question (the white lion) could be shorter than the grass.
Given that Jon is a white wolf, the white lion could easily be Tyrion and therefore a Lannister - makes sense to me.
Makes sense if you take out the word "THAN" as that is implying a non-human or at least not male..
Prophesy is infamous for being vague and easily misunderstood.
Flora Hime your understanding of the language isn’t the problem. The prophecy is very vague and misleading and meant to be interpreted multiple ways
I have a feeling after re-reading the books that the idea of a “stone dragon” is actually an outbreak of greyscale started by princess shireen
Woa you’re probably onto something because that dialogue between John and Val will likely amount to something in class George RR Martin style
Could it be started by Jon Connington/Griff? He’s the one with an active case of greyscale in the books.
@@reaganrambles1951 that makes more sense
Shireen will live. Stanis would rather burn himself so she could take the throne, long before his daughter.
@@owlsayssouth From James HIbberd's _Fire Cannot Kill A Dragon_ -
"[talking about the 2013 meeting with D&D] It wasn’t easy for me. I didn’t want to give away my books. It’s not easy to talk about the end of my books. Every character has a different end. I told them who would be on the Iron Throne, and I told them some big twists like Hodor and “hold the door,” and Stannis’s decision to burn his daughter."
You did such a good job predicting. You should redo this video with the information you have now.
Most of these prophecies have come true
Second this... Could you append to this video with updated events?
Bump
TOTALY!
You realize hes talking about the book not the fan fiction show
13:36 I think its Aemon Targaryen. He's on a ship in Bravos when he is told about Daenerys's dragons. Corpse- he is about to die. Eyes bright- he is happy and excited for Daenerys, smiling sadly- because he wants to be with Dany, guide her and teach her but know he won't because he is about to die. Aemon says 'Another Targaryen alone in the world'
Also love this video!
Good shout
I thought that the prophecies where related with the message. When she saw the visions of Viserys, Rhaegar and Rhaego says "Daughter of Dead", what I understand as the deaths of her brothers and son make her the Mother of Dragons. When the Stannis, Aegon and the dragon of stone (I think will be one of Dany's dragons, who will capture by Qyburn and turned into zombie for fake Tommen's parentege) visions happen the undyigns says "Slayer of Lies". After, came the visions of Silver in her first night, the men in the ship and the winter rose at the wall, and they say "Bride of Fire" what I thought would be about tragic relationships she will have.
Anyways, what you say makes a lot of sense.
Forgot how sad that scene was ;(
"A corpse stood at the prow of a ship..." could be the Damphair. Aeron Greyjoy was tied up to Euron's prow, died by the sea as he wanted, grey lips from the shade of the evening. Otherwise it might be the wildlings at Hardhome on the ships from Eastwatch. Mellisandre does say the mission is doomed.
Man the writers were literally given entire books and they managed to mess up after season 4. I can appreciate their hard work and all but really there was so much more they could've done and included. Having half the seasons based on the books and half on their own work left the show with so many plot holes.
Exactly
Wait till the last season
I mean, they had up until Jon died and Danny is still in Mereen. They did chop up the seasons but to be fair they didn’t have all the material. There are still 2 books that aren’t completed yet from ASOIAF 😢
@@cat_alyst6306this isn’t really an argument considering the writers had at least 2000 pages that they never adapted for the show
@@fort809 how so? What 2000 pages were those that they had that weren’t adapted? Are you meaning to tell me that D&D adapted according to what GRRM wrote in Winds and A Dream? They took the series the way they wanted. The book series isn’t finished. Were season 7-8 bad yes, did it end bad yes. But they developed some characters really well.
in light of recent spoilers its kinda crazy seeing how accurate were with your predeictions. I'm even more interested in seeing how this will be in the book.
This books will end diffrent AMD I believe way better
@@mistermatschbanane7584 the books won’t end.
@@dabestest1387 @@mistermatschbanane7584
The books might never end
GRRM is old and might die even before he could finish the winds of winter
@@mistermatschbanane7584 GRRM will die and the books won't end
This haunts me the most
All of this wild theory fest since the last 11 years and we couldn't get the next book
A closure..
I never felt like Jorah betrayed Dany. He was working for the Iron Throne before he knew her. He betrayed the Iron Throne for Dany. It was still treachery, and his actions put her in danger, but... yeah.
“So Dany takes the drugs offered by the strange man” cause you know, you’re finding yourself abroad, you’re already a little tipsy and what’s the harm in some good clean pharmaceuticals
Lmao
It's like the plot of Midsommar.
It's like a bad HOUSE party
😂😂😂😂
Good? Sure, sounds like good shit. Clean? Idk about that. I'll stick with milk of the poppy if I'm doing olden times drugs.
The "mount to dread" being Drogon is also interesting as Aegons dragon, Balerion, was known as the Black Dread and there are frequent comparisons between Balerion and Drogon...
My head cannon is drogon is balerions daughter. The timing makes it possible.
Tyrion, Daenerys, and Jon all killed there mother during childbirth, which points them to being the three heads of Azor Ahai.
Woah, 3 heads of the dragon suddenly turned into three heads of Azor Ahai.
hahaha An Azor Ahai with 3 heads, why not haha?
Jon and Dany could have same father with Dany being a bastard.
G14able I'm sure you've learned now, they do not share a parent
As if those three were the only ones to ever kill their mother in childbirth in those times.
The treason for gold could be Viserys' willingness to betray her for a golden crown by trying to steal the dragon eggs and threatening to cut Rhaego out of her belly.
Thank you! I thought I was the only one...
Well with season seven now ended, could the treason for gold be Cersei betraying their truce to go and hire the golden company behind her back.
Pretty sure it's when one of her maidens betrays her in Qarth, the maiden who taught her to deal with Drogo. She did it for gold :)
@Dex4Sure they never had a chance as we've now seen 🤣😅
charvisiokuu1
Book to show confirmation of Dany’s prophecy?
The fires lit by Danny: Life- Khal Drogo (also the birth of her dragons), Death- Jorah, Love- Kings Landing (she wanted to be loved for conquering Westeros, but all she gets is fear)?
The mounts: Bed- Drogo? (Duty of marriage?), Dread- Hizdahr zo Loraq (as she dreaded making the compromise to appease the peace), Love- Jon Snow
Treasons: Blood- Drogo’s blood sacrifice to save his life, Gold- Jorah, Love- Jon Snow
I don't think the final part of Daenerys vision in the show is her reconnecting with the past.
I think it is quite literally her joining her dead husband and child in death after she goes beyond the wall.
she didnt die tho
@@OctaviaBlake-xg1kjshe did though in the show
@@Aprlrain9987 And these are the books that the show didn't follow
uhh maybe dany will ride Ghost. 9:03
i laughed way too hard at that
Me to.
@@cadenvanvalkenburg6718 Humour is dead. But i l'll see what i can do.
@@fast.food.ninjalarry954 Lol Bran San fan I see.
This foreshadowing so early in the series is one of the reasons Martin is such a superb writer
Dany fulfills all of the azor ahai prophecy before we even learn about it. It’s why people have so many wild theories. Normally you find out a prophecy and then it occurs, not having it fulfilled then it’s learned.
“Dany takes the drugs from the strange man”
Me as a teenager
Dude.... Phrasing
Me too.
Betrayal for gold = Viserys
He didn't literally betray her and not for gold but this is how it ended up to be. Being given to Drogo was seen by Dany as her brother's betrayal and a golden crown was all Viserys got in the end. So, I believe, it can be said that he betrayed her for gold.
I think the "treason for love" may simply be referring to the fact that Jorah stopped spying on Dany because he loved her.
could you make a video on the real daenerys, just like you did with tyrion? it would be great if more people could know about her canon book character rather than the version that was butchered in the show!
I actually don't think that Daenerys' character ending will be that much different in the books. I think it's just easy to blame something external than be confronted with unwittingly having supported an unstable homicidal maniac. I myself was a huge fan of her, until I realized with season 7 that she was a cautionary tale about strongman characters and saviour figures. It was uncomfortable to have this realization, as I was confronted with how I was actually glorifying her acts of extreme violence, as it was in my interest to see antagonists like the slave masters be defeated and the slaves freed. Considered one of the greatest U.S. presidents for his New Deal policies and wartime leadership, Franklin D. Roosevelt was still responsible for the arbitrary mass internment of people of Japanese ancestry during WW2 and was also known for having an autocratic tendency in his governing style. George R. R. Martin often says that he finds the greatest inspiration in history and loves writing about the greyness within the human heart. So I believe it only makes sense that Daenerys' is the story of how volatile the perception of a hero can become, when lit up from all sides (pun intended).
@@mataya-waldenberg Well that doesn't really make sense in the context of the books. Currently, Daenerys is fighting a war against the slaveowners and nobility of Essos -- these slaveowners are spreading horrible & defaming lies about her (saying she bathes in blood, sleeps with animals, calling her a "monster" whose "true sin" is her anti-slavery perspective). Why would GRRM include these passages if his main goal is to represent Daenerys as a villain?
It's specifically the slaveowners who despise her -- compare this with what The Widow of the Waterfront has to say about her. Read that chapter.
Not to mention that in GRRM's other novel 'Fevre Dream' (1982), he writes that
"[slavery] has got to end even if it has to be with fire and blood" -- clearly, GRRM recognises that ending slavery is difficult and will be a bloody, arduous process. This doesn't mean Daenerys is a villain; in fact, there's no textual evidence that Daenerys is a villain.
GRRM takes care to paint Daenerys' actions in a positive light, through purposeful linguistic choices and symbolism. E.g. Daenerys' liberation of Astapor is directly paralleled with her dream about Rhaegar on the Trident, facing enemies that are "armoured in ice" -- this scene is followed directly after Daenerys talking to Barristan about "justice" being the quality of a "true king", hence we are invited to see Daenerys' dream of burning an ice army with dragonfire as justice.
And yes, Kraznys (the slaver who Daenerys burns in Astapor), is described to melt just like the ice army in Daenerys' dream.
Another thing that proves to me that Daenerys' ending will not be like the TV Show is that GRRM changed the birth order of Alysanne and Jaehaerys' children -- he added a child named Daenerys. Look at how that child died, and compare that to Dany IX in AGOT. Jaehaerys wanted his daughter to have a dragon to heal her; Dany's ancestors urge her to embrace the dragon to flee from the "icy breath" -- Dany survives! Plus, Alysanne was adamant that her daughter would be a "great queen" (Alysanne is rarely wrong... so I believe this great queen will be Daenerys Stormborn).
I also want to mention that the TV show made Daenerys much more violent; in the books, Daenerys is the one who controls her advisors' bloodlust and she is a brilliant teenage strategist. She has immense empathy and kindness for the disenfranchised, bathes and feeds sick people, refuses to let dwarfs fight in the fighting pits because they have not consented, insists that food should be given to the poor instead of being thrown away.
In the books, Dany never threatened to burn down Qarth and other cities (unlike the TV show). She's also rebuilding Meereen by planting trees, promoting the freedmen to work, improving the city, taking taxes to weaken the noble families and invest in Meereen (etc).
Her dragons breastfeed off her in the books I mean there’s that
@@benneycopper2760 Yep! Quite literally the Mother of Dragons!
(Side-note: I’ve always wondered why GRRM would make reptiles drink milk… most likely he wanted to show that Dany’s bond with her dragons is special/unique - that they behave almost like human children; she is literally their mother and they are an extension of her. This is further enforced through the constant references in the text to Dany being fire (“the fire is mine”/“the fire within her, and the whisperings of stars”/“the bride of fire”) and dragons are described as “fire made flesh”. Her connections to her dragons are also seen in how she could feel something “twist and stretch” inside the stone eggs when she touched them - she also “could feel the heat” of her stone eggs but Jorah only felt “cold stone” when he touched them.)
@@ez52 who?
betrayal for gold is Dany's brother Viserys
Agnieszka Trusz well Viserys exchange Dany for an army not for gold really
a golden crown for a king.
He didn't betray her though
Dutch Messiah yeah she betrayed him
Sparkle Hunter she betrayed him, not the other way around, like I said.
The fact she reached for throne but didn't touched it, she did the same thing with Drogo and Rhaego. That means she focused on present and I think that was a test (just like Jojen and Three Eyed Raven said if you stay too long i visipns you lose yourself and present or something similar) to make her stay at HoU and she snaped out of all those visions.
It could also mean she is within touching distance of it as she was after destroying a large part of the Lannister army.. Yet she walked away because their were more important issues beyond the wall.. She went to fight for humanity's cause.. Beyond the wall she meets Drogo, who initially bought her & raped her, then she learnt how to love, & she became the moon in his eyes.. It could mean her true love was beyond the wall who will give her a child!!
"If I look back I am lost"
OZ King you nailed it!
She was being manipulated by the warlocks. They wanted to to tempt her, so they showed her visions of what she wanted most in the world (The Iron Throne and her family) to try and get her to accept that as her reality while they enslaved her in real life.
If Stannis' fate (and Shirreen's) ends up being anything like it is in the show, it'll really make that line from Danaerys' vision about seeing a 'king who casts no shadow' seem pretty poetic. Especially since Varys uses a shadow as a metaphor for influencing the world when talking to Tyrion. Stannis and his entire line is wiped out in his pursuit of the crown, so he casts no shadow in the way that Tyrion is a small man who casts a long shadow.
You're making me wanna read the books again! I've been holding off until I know he's gonna release the next book but this is making it hard to wait
They could have dedicated an entire episode to these visions
King Robert Baratheon if only they had a bigger CGI budget
@@jay-t1030 is CGI crazy expensive?
@@cgr8826 yes. this is why we didnt see much of ghost
I think it's fairly obvious that Viserys is the treason for gold. Viserys was stealing Daenerys's dragon eggs, intending to sell to the traders of Vaes Dothrak for gold to buy himself a sellsword army and then is killed with a golden crown (which could be a point where Dany "betrays" her brother as well)...I think the reason people are confused on this point is the order. If the betrayal for blood is Mirri Maz Duur, why Viserys be mentioned after that when his betrayal was first...the thing is, all of the prophecies are mentioned in a random order. You'll have Viserys, Rhaegar and Rhaego, which is recent past, far past, and impossible future. The only prophecy that is not shown is the "fire to love, mount to love, treason for love" which all seem to point to Jon Snow.
Adam G I hope Jon is the one
Viserys stealing the dragon eggs isn't much of a treason. Dany didn't consider them that important at the time, and actually offered to let Viserys have them, but he was already picking a fight with drogo so he died anyway.
Adam G How did Dany betray Vyseris? Dude signed himself a death penalty, what else could she have done?
I still think the 3 betrayals will happen in order and Mirri was the first and the other 2 are probably still gonna happen
at 11:23 I always felt that the 'casts no shadow' line referred to the fact that in terms of being Azor Ahai, Stannis had no substance or true value. He is built on glamours and forced asthetic, but in terms of the prophecy he is not really tangibly present. Also please keep up this amazing work, and I'd love to see you turn your hand to some other works like the Expanse Saga (though I've never seen the actual show)
*Stannis isn't out of the race yet in the books, the crofters village trap is going to be crazy when that goes down.*
Remember when lots of people are rooting for Robb's success? Then for Oberyn's? Good times... good times...
On the “casts no shadow,” I’ve always related it to how a small man can cast a big shadow. The opposite is how a big man can cast a small, or no, shadow; this would be a mummer’s hero.
I’ve recently seen a riddle that identified fire does not cast a shadow (it makes shadows dance, but there is no shadow of a flame). So I wonder if the fire wights cast shadows. Does Barrick Dundarien and Lady Stoneheart cast a shadow. Will the hero with the glowing sword cast a shadow?
To add, if fire wights are of fire, and if fires have no shadows of their own flames, then should we infer that fire wights too would have no shadows of themselves? If this makes sense, then for this “king who cast no shadow”, is this king of fire too, is he a fire wight?
But what about the “blue-eyed” part? That is what happens to the wights, that is to say that is what happens to those whom are slain by the Others and their minions, those whom are of the domain of ice. So is this “blue-eyed” king an ice wight?
What happens when a fire wight is slain by the Others and is made into an ice wight? A fire wight is resurrected by fire, and an ice wight is resurrected by ice, so is this a Fire and Ice wight? The first of his kind? The first of his name?
Another potential explanation to Stannis casting no shadow is that he leaves no lasting legacy on Westeros. For all the books focus on him, he hasn't really managed to DO anything, outside of ensure the destruction of his house. When Stannis dies, House Baratheon dies with him.
During the A Feast for Crows's Prologue is mentioned that, according to Archmaester Benedict, Renly Bratheon is slain before Balon Greyjoy crowns himself, meaning that there are never five kings at once. So, it might explain Daenerys's vision about Westeros.
Couldn't the fires refer to each one of her dragons and the role they'll have?
A fire for life is drogon, a fire for death is viserion (because it Will end up with night King and the army of the dead) and the fire to love is reagal that can be ridden by Jon as a targaryan (and actually has his father's name)
As well as the rides can mean her sexual partners. Dario as the one for bed (sexual pleasure), Drogo as the one for dread (because of what happened with the baby and with him) and Jon as the one for love. What do you guys think?
Vânia Gago no because she loves drgo
agreed nothing will happen to Drogon and I highly doubt that Drogon will betray his mother for anyone
I think you're right about the dragons. And I think the "mounts" are her lovers, yes.
The Night King isn't a character in the books, at least that we know of yet, but more of a mythological figure. If Dany does lose one of her dragons in the books, it will most likely be to Euron Greyjoy.
I think if any of the dragons lives on it will be viserion. SHE will be the only legacy left of the Targaryens. She’s literally a Targaryen in dragon form and showing nesting behavior. I personally believe drogon is female too. I believe rhaegal will betray her because he is mirris sacrifice and much like her.
Dany taking psychedelics at 14 from random strangers and nearly dying from it is so relatable
I need an updated version of this
For Danny's vision in the show:
the broken throne room could have snow on it, or ash. And the throne room could mean many things.
- snow meaning the dead have arrived into king's landing and destroyed the red keep, and she survived somehow roaming the wasteland with her dragon (the torch could signify her last dragon). Or (Snow/Stark) will take over the throne.
- Or it's ashes from Cersei having burned downed King's landing and she's left with nothing (from the season 8 teaser trailer).
- Or the fact that when Daenerys' tries to reach for the throne and touch it could signify that she will not get the throne, (likely from dying or Jon getting the throne)
After she tries to touch the throne you could hear two faint scream or screech, facing where the gates of the wall appears, signifying that one or two of her dragons may die (one already did) from the dangers beyond the wall.
And her entering the tent with Drogo just foreshadows her joining him in death, and that when spring comes maybe the sun does rise and set on the opposite since GRR said there will be a fix to this weird climate in Westoros.
Yes, please make an update of this video after the series finale!
Not really. No new books have come out, nothing has changed. If the show's ending were an indicator of what the books will be like then we must as well not bother.
@@Josh-ll6cf didnt you the series
@@alphagamer9505 He wrote that comment when the abomination of S8 wasnt yet released
PLEASE REDO THIS VIDEO NOW THAT WE'VE SEEN S08E05. I've been thinking about this video a lot after what happened...!!
he knows about s5 from her vision smart man
None of this mattes to the show. Most of this references the book.
@@ZerogunRivale last season was a total joke. nothing to be cared of.
This video is about the actual lore from the books. The show has nothing to do with developing the story.
_"3 mounts you must ride;_
_one to bed, one to dread and one to love"_
....Fuck, Kill, Marry?
Hahah!!
So fuck Daario, dread Euron and marry.... Jon? Young Griff? Tyrion? Hard to say tbh but the two first I'm pretty sure about
3 fires must you light means 3 dragon that she will birth (as mother of dragon)
1 for life means for herself and will be her own dragon
1 for death means that 1 dragon will dead (and now we all know) and become The (Dead) Night King's dragon
1 for love means that the las dragon will belong to someone that Dany loves (Right ow after s07 probably belong to Jon Snow)
it would be cool if Rhaegal will be mounted by Jon Snow, as Rhaegal was named after Rhaegar, Jon's father... :D
I think you've got it.
Completely think this is a possibility
And guys he fucking got it
I think you've got it.
The visions in the show were all about temptation. The warlocks were trying to tempt her with the things she wanted more than anything to get her to accept a dream reality so she would be enslaved. But she resisted the temptation of the Iron Throne, and rejected Drogo and Rhaego as a dream she could never have, at which point the warlocks had to resort to more direct means.
Best explanation thank you for this
Watching this now at the end of season 8, some things that we have seen make more sense and others just create more questions. Need a follow up of this...
I have read theories that say that Bran whispered "Burn them all" to the mad king, referring to the white walkers. But maybe Bran wasn't talking about the white walkers. Maybe, if it was Bran that told the mad king to "burn them all", he was trying to prevent everything that came to pass after Robert took the throne. The death of his mother, brothers and father, for instance.
But his father would've also been among "all" probably, no?
@@Afdog I don't believe so. The Lannisters beat the rebellion to King's Landing after the battle of the trident. Ned and his force was outside of King's Landing to my understanding. Could be wrong.
@@fordliby6543 maybe, but I had a feeling that Aerys plan was to burn everyone including stark-baratheon-lannister forces
It’s a big city, I’m sure there was a time when everyone is inside the walls
Someone pointed something out regarding the silver-haired rider under the burning stallion and the burning city behind him:
Someone claimed that it was actually Aegon, who at this point, is already in Westeros. Aegon is described as having silver hair, purple eyes and tan skin. But what really sticks out is the fact that he has the Golden Company with him.
The Golden company was founded by Aegor Rivers, also known as Bittersteel. He was one of Aegon IV's (the Unworthy) great bastards. His mother was Barba Bracken, Aegon's fifth mistress.
When he was legitimised, he mixed both of his parents' banners together; with house Bracken's red horse and house Targaryen's dragon, his banner became a red horse with black wings with fire coming out of its mouth.
That is the theory regarding "the silver-haired rider with copper skin"; it is not Rhaego, but it's Aegon riding with the Golden Company in Westeros.
@@harshals482 Aegon dyed his hair to disquise his Targaryen features.
No, people are not saying that the house with the red door and the lemon tree can't be in Bravos, because trees are rare in Bravos, but because Bravos climate is cold and rainy, in the books. Master Aemon basically freezes to death in the books, when they stay in Bravos because he gets sick and they can't afford to buy wood for a fire. A lemon tree can not grow in the climate of Bravos but it is repeatedly mentioned that lemon trees are growing in Dorn. For example when Sansa talks about Lemon Cake.
Alex König yesssss, omg the more I think about them,the more I love the books
Which seems to be a nod towards the fact that Jon and Dany were birth born in Dorne. It's a little ironic when you think about it; Dorne resisted Aegon's conquest the longest and only came around on the grounds of political marriage, and even then still upheld several favors that other kingdoms were denied. So the place that never submitted to Targaryens is the one where the two remaining Targaryens come from. (Excluding Aegon here since there's a high possibility he ain't a true Targaryen)
Trees are indeed very rare in Braavos though. Though I think the house was in Braavos, but in the Sealord's palace, where's there's a huge garden. Remember that a deal was sealed between the Targaryens and Martells, and that the Sealord served as a witness. They were staying with him, but were kicked out when he died and a new Sealord was elected.
@@zizijun9723 Daenerys was born in Dragonstone though.
Anyone else watching this after the finale??
yup
Yup
Yesssss
Yes, I am watching this 2 weeks after the finale. Alt Shift X is like a scholar of the World of Ice and Fire.
The finale can go jam a whole cucumber up its ass
Thanks to this videos I fell in love with the TV series because all this background stories made plot so much deeper.
This impact was so strong that after the show ended I started reading books. Now here I am, just finished "Daenerys and the house of undying" chapter and it was so magical and mysterious that I came back here so video will help me understanding it better.
Alt shift x thanks for all of this!
Nicely organized and presented. I think it's consistent with Martin's approach to have various characters interpret the prophesies and dreams differently, and to never actually find some neat and tidy fit. Just as in real life, there will be those who think they have found 'the answer', and some who bring things about because they believe it's been foretold, as well as some who see no real connection between the dreams/prophesies and events. Look at how variously the characters interpret the coming of the red comet. There is no 'correct' interpretation. It simply means different things to different people.
Quick interpretation of the show version of her visions:
1. Dani reaches Westeros and have perhaps even taken Kings Landing at this point, but because of the threat of the White Walkers and the long night (symbolized through snow in the throne room) she can't sit on the throne to rule just yet.
2. Therefore she makes way to the wall to face the White Walkers and the army of the dead. My interpretation is that she will some way lose her life during this fight. This leads us to the third vision where Dani and Drogo are reunited in the afterlife.
Of course I may be totally wrong about this, and I probably am.
oh boy, i think you were almost right. dany will definitely die this last season
HOLY SHIT
*[book spoilers]*
@Alt Shift X
"A corpse stood at the prow of a ship, eyes bright in his dead face, grey lips smiling sadly"
DUDE
This is Maester Aemon TARGARYEN dying on the ship with Sam and Gilly while they travel to Oldtown in AFFC! I'm sure of it!!
◊ BLACK PHILANTHROPY ◊ Nah. It seems to indicate the forsaken sample chapter from winds of winter. At least to me.
"Bride of fire" though? It's most likely Victarion Greyjoy (Yara Grejoy in the show).
it's not Aemon, it's one of the Greyjoys "grey lips smiling sadly" = Grey*JOY* on a ship. It's either Victarion or Euron
Victorion has the firey zombie hand too which is key, and is en route to mereen by the end of Dance. Dany is also warned by quilate of the krakens arrival.
Apparently it means a ninja with one year's worth of training will assassins creed the NK. It was so obvious
Honestly that shot of the throne room abbandon and run down during winter is so powerful i love it
Kinda sad that the comments are all about the dick. I want to know what people think of this video, and if they agree with the theories/have theories of their own.
Treason for Blood: betraying Viserys (unintentionally?) that boosted her position as the last Targaryen heir
Treason for Gold: betraying the slave masters to get the Unsullied and other resources
Treason for Love: ???
The original video (that is unlisted in their channel now) has more comments about the theories. Here is the link if you want to check it out: /watch?v=AUIP7kWU8J0
May I ask then, she did burn, kill and ride Drogo and she did love him. Isn't that the last column from her past?
I have theories. Not specifically about this though.
Isn't the blue-eyed king who casts no shadow the Ice King? Would make more sense in my opinion to have a vision of that than a vision of Stannis.
Not yet at least.
There is at least the tale of the Night King.
They don't show the sword Stannis has in the show, but he basically has some crazy magic sword called Lightbringer which fits the description perfectly. And obviously, he doesn't have a shadow because Mel used it to kill Renly and later Cortnay Penrose.
The Ice King is from Adventure Time. But yeah I agree, I interpreted that particular vision Dany had as being of the Night's King. I was confused because he's wielding a burning sword...but I don't count anything out until the books are released.
"Nothing burns like the cold" - A Game of Thrones, Chapter 1
I disagree with your interpretation in regards to Rhago being the Stallion that Mounts the World. It's not Rhago, it's Dani herself. Rhago's birth is what started the chain reaction that set the Khaleesi on her path. She is the stallion, she is the one who united the tribes of the Dothraki.
Maggie Valera I've always thought this too!
But Targaryens are mentioned to have very pale skin whereas the Dothraki have the natural tan...
He was supposed to be the stallion that mounts the world IF HE LIVED. But since he died, Dany was the one who became the stallion.
so true
Stallions are male.
Nice that this video is still so relevant in the middle of season 8, good job also ;D
Wanted to remember all the prophecies, especially the dany in the throneroom dream, so thank you for this video ;D
"So Dany takes the drugs offered by the strange man" lmao great script ahaha
My interpretation of the warlock visions in the show is that they weren't prophecy. It seemed to me that the warlocks were trying to distract Dany with whatever they could (power, family, etc.) to keep her away from her dragons.
Her visions are definitely prophetic, it foreshadows the red wedding, for example.
+Vanalovan all of Dany's visions are prophetic and some of her visions have actually happened and then there are some of the visions that have not happened yet but will happen
imagine if in the series when deanarys said shes going home and all those boats and 3 huge dragons flying behind her and she just turns up to the house at the red door with an army of dothraki and a fleet of greyjoy... The ultimate troll
Now that I think about it I think the betrayal for love could be Ilyrio supporting Aegon, that is assuming the theory that Ilyrio is Aegon's father and that he is a blackfyre is correct which I personally believe is. Because she sees Ilyrio as a true ally from the beginning always helping her and keeping her safe but he actually has been trying to get Aegon, a blackfyre, on the iron throne (love of course because it's his son). Thought tbh it very much could go an insane amount of ways but yeah, that's just a thought I had. :)
3:54 - 3:58 is giving me scooby doo vibes “and he would have gotten away with it too if it weren’t for those meddling kids / weren’t for that meddling kid”
The three fires are Drogo's pyre, the Dothraki khalasar, and finally herself.
The three mounts are Drogo, Victarion, Jon.
The treasons are Mirri Maz Duur, Jorah, and Varys: his love of the realm.
Anyone here after S8E04 ?
Felix Conde yeah which changes sooooo many of these predictions
Yes. And I'm even more confused than before..
Her ending was in front of us all along.
here after she burns the place to the ground. vision fulfilled.
@@Nosycassafrass I'm not. I have been saying she's cray cray since season 1. Genes and genetics are real folks.
You nailed some of these predictions man, well done
Schwift is the BOSS
it's only a week left to the final episode and i still can't fully predict what will happen. but you had seen that all coming from 3 years ago. respect.
8:40 This man predicted the ending of the show 3 years earlier.
it's completely different
in the show jon killed her because she became mad not for defeating the dead
young dagger dick only that’s not how ended
@@MahaHMA no, he mentions that dany must fulfill 3 prophecies, which she does. The last prophecy to fulfill completes her destiny, and she dies
@@drunkwy4727 re-watch the video
he talks about the azor ahai.
azor ahai killed his wife to win the war against the white walkers
that's not why jon killed dany
he killed her because she became the westrosie hitler
and it's not a treason for love
"a treason for duty" is more accurate way to describe her death
actually this prophecy wasn't mentioned in the show
and it safe to say dan&david didn't care about fulfilling it.
@@MahaHMA this prophecy did in the vision in house of undying. She had a vision, when she wanted to touch the iron throne, she heard sonething and she went north to the dead drogo and her dead son. Its obvious that she heard Jon, he called her to go north to help him vs walkers. Jon killed her and sent her to the dead Drogo and her son. Its symbolic that she met Drogo at the north of the wall.
You didn't talk about why there is snow falling in the tv version throne room. I think it is to signify that winter will fall upon westeros, and she never quite touches the throne because the battle against the white walkers will become more important than her quest for the throne (which is what we're starting to see now)
At first I was like "John and Dany would be such a cute couple" and then I remembered that Dany is Johns aunt.
"Jon"
And then it happened!
@@liswatching3241 Only in the show, for now.
@@ereisenheim9896 well, the books are written by Martin and we all know he doesn’t chicken out of incest foreshadowing
@@liswatching3241 Of course, I was just pointing out that we don't know if that will happen in the books too.
It's probable but not certain.
Didn't GRRM pretty much verify the house with the red door is not in Braavos during an interview or in an email? He mentioned something about the climate not being right to grow lemons, I think...
Rezn0r R+L=D!
There are trees in Braavos, but only in the Sealord's palace.
This aged well
There's a third possibility for the name Rhaegar was whispering as he died. Visenya, his prophesized third head of the dragon who would make it all worth it.
If GRRM is unable to finish the final 2 books, this is the man who should do it. He truly is gifted; like a Ph.D. in the world of Westeros. I even heard GRRM say one time that one of the fans of Ice&Fire could probably do it. It is not unheard of. There is a woman writing as Agatha Christie now and after Stieg Larsson's untimely death after writing the first 3 Millennium books, there is a Swedish writer, David Lagercrantz, who has written 3 more follow-ups.
Apologies if somebody has posted this: But I assume the passage about the "King with the flaming sword... casts no shadow" was about the fact that Stannis was not the real Azor Ahai. The reason he cast no shadow was because the Lord of Light was not actually shining on him
Or because Melisandre used his shadow to kill Renly and Cortney Pentrose. Ina sense it got stolen from him.
I like this!
Just pointing out that Aerys gave the order after Tywin betrayed him, not after the Battle of the Trident, and he was referring to Tywin, not Robert, as he though Tywin was trying to usurp his throne.
Whatttt how? He literally opened the gates for Tywin because he thought Tywin came to help because Aerys has been calling for his banner.
17:14
"Snow was falling down to the iron throne."
"Snow was falling down to"
"Snow was falling "
"Snow."
John Kevin Rembulat was it snow or ash?
Thank you, I don't know why nobody ever mentions that. The freakin' throne is covered in Snow. Jon Snow owns the throne not Dany, that's why she never gets the chance to touch it.
@@mcrettable Ash is darker. That was snow.
OR the Night King? It could mean he will arrive at Kings Landing/Red Keep? Maybe after Cersei destroys it with wildfire?
@@imArEbElAngEl If its the Night King wouldnt it be mist like the ones in the crypts of winterfell teaser for the next season? or maybe even ice? i think snow jus literally means snow
I never noticed it before but the description of the warlocks sounds like White Walkers.
I’ve just realised that the vision Daenerys has of whom we all presume to be Rhaego could also be “FAegon” - copper skin (from his Dornish mother) and silver hair (from Rhaegar). And Daenerys specifically calls the man in the vision a lord, not a khal. And burning cities, indicating FAegon’s invasion.
Fiery stallion - Bittersteel?
I’d really love a whole video from you dedicated to how Dany’s story will end in your opinion. I know you mention some opinion of it sometimes but I’d love a whole video
Couldn't "A treason for gold" be Xaro Xhoan Daxos betraying her?
I don't think that happened in the books and the vision is from the books. These prophecies are all bunch of bullshit anyway. Anything can fit.
@@saranemcova5448 in George' s books almost nothing is just there without Making sense or having a role to play
@@NoOne-qy2yf George himself said that prophecy is basically bullshit. Not that they are wrong, they just screw characters over. Cersei especially. It is not a prophecy, it is fear of that prophecy.
@@saranemcova5448 Yeah, the show never touched on any of those betrayal visions, and in the books Xaro Xhoan Daxos is alive and well and still supporting Dany.
Watching this after season 7 is....interesting 😏😏
I need it updated lol
@@katelynoreilly6144 politicl news
Watching this after season 8 is depressing.
@@BubblegumCrash332 same. I’m still depressed loo
betrayed for gold is her brother....his head was covered in it remember
and he was stealing the egg to sell it for gold.
she betrayed him though
Viserys didnt betray her
@@engrRGV He planned to cut out her baby and kidnap her.
After watching the latest episode, it looks like Jon will be atleast two of the last remaining visions of love
1. Light a fire to love: They fell in love or because Dany gave her dragon to Jon;
2. Ride a mount to love: They made love or because they both rode a dragon;
3. A treason for love: Jon killing Dany to become Azor Ahai (?)
I have not the slightest idea how they gonna do it, but I am for almost 100% sure that Dany is going to die this last season.
David Time to redo these
Same :(
This is one of the best asoiaf/got videos out there in my opinion. Her visions in the Dothraki Sea are interesting as well.
Just before the vision of prince Rhaegar says "There has to be one more" as in three dragon heads, or three children, he looks straight at Daenerys! She can see him looking at her and when he speaks, she's not sure if he was talking to her or the ghost woman in the bed (Elia). It seems here that in the House of the Undying, Daenerys saw things past and present and future. It's possible that when she was seeing her brother from many years ago, he saw a vision of her. He might've seen her and knew that she was a vision but didn't know that she was his baby sister.
how did you not mention the snow on the throne
was it snow or ash? (responded to wrong comment)
Alex Harris Winter will come to Kings Landing, Jon snow becomes the Ice King and kills Dhaeneries to bring peace to Westeros.
Jed Diaz holy shit spelling mate
Jed Diaz
Predictable ending, lets hope it doesnt happen.
but at least, he showed Jon Snow
The fire for death might be her burning all the khals as well...
Lydi@ yeah I always took the fires to be ones she did with her own hands. Like lighting the funeral pyre and knocking over the oil lanterns. The other ones were just ones she commanded her dragons to light.
Bran sees a dragon flying from the debris of Winterfell, doesn't he? I remember being very confused when I read that and I couldn't find a proper explanation online. It fits that vision of Dany's.
This is why Phropecy is such a dangerous thing to know. You get fixated on it. Cersei and her phropecy, Rhaegar and his phropecy, Daenerys and her phropecy, they all choose choices that's not neccesarilly logical, but they believed that it's the right thing to do, based on Phropecy.
this is some good theorizing and interpreting of the books
makes it all the more baffling they did fuckall with it in the show :/
Maybe the blue-eyed king who wields a red sword and casts no shadow is the Nights King? He is the undead so he would cast no shadow.
Or white walker john snow. He is already undead in the show (therefor no shadow). Becoming a White(and getting the blue eyes) could be a reason why he would kill Danny and bring about lightbringer. Something about her death could then break the spell over John as a white, leading him to fight and defeat the nightking with the flaming sword. It would also fulfill the prophesy of "a treason for love".
Being undead doesn't mean no shadow... no where in either the books or the show does it say anything like that... they're still physical beings, so they'll cast shadows. Don't the wights cast shadows?
Or because he brings darkness/winter he casts no shadow (no sun).
Or it is Stannis. Stannis has blue eyes, like his brothers Renly and Robert. Stannis has a sword called Lightbringer, enchanted by Melisandre to cast light in red, yellow, orange, and white, shifting colors every other second.
I was wondering the same thing
This video predicted that Dany will love Jon, have sex with him and get killed by him years ahead of the show. I believe that JRR Martin truly had the show's events in mind for the books ending. However, due to the anger surrounding how the show ended, he need to overhaul everything and change the ending. Probably one of the reasons why he is in no hurry to finish the books.
Still a great video 4 years and one terrible finale season later! You really highlighted how beautifully complex the book’s HOTU scene was compared to the kindergarten version in season 2. Will look forward to seeing how the books will solve these prophecies.
Great content. Really accurate. Although I don't think the dragons will be of service when it comes to killing white walkers in the books. because since GRRM paused to write fire and blood i think the information he gives us there, tells us what can the dragons do. and in fire and blood the good queen alysanne when she visits the wall tries to pass beyond the wall. she fails three times. “Thrice I flew Silverwing high above Castle Black, and thrice I tried to take her north beyond the Wall,” Alysanne wrote to Jaehaerys, “but every time she veered back south again and refused to go. Never before has she refused to take me where I wished to go. I laughed about it when I came down again, so the black brothers would not realize anything was amiss, but it troubled me then and it troubles me still.” (Fire and Blood 263) We do not know why Silverwing didnt obey her. It may be the spells the children of the forest put on the wall or it may be that dragons just dont like cold. Her account in Fire and Blood actually supports this. Therefore, I don't think we will see much of the dragons in the north fighting with the white walkers. I don't actually think that we will ever see a fight in the north between the white walkeers and humans. I think it will be averted with something Bran and the children of the forest does.
How precisely was he wrong about "the prince who was promised"?
Jon Snow is literally the song of ice and fire. The vision was never about his son Aegon, it was about Jon Snow. There has been overlap between the Prince who was promised and Azor Ahai, so the prophecy may still very well hold true.
It was about Aegon all the time, we gave him the name Jon..
@OZ KING Are you sure that the same case is in books? Didn't TV show add two characters (Jon and Aegon) together because of plot holes ?
TheiLame they just never introduced the idea that baby Aegon survived
In the books is not really clear that jon snow is rhaegar's son, in fact along with arya are the only ones what looks exactly like eddard stark, and the mistery behind this "aegon" who proclaim is the youngest son of rhaegar, but how he survive could be related to varys plan or being a fake, in other fact theres a boy in dorne with the dayne family with the name gerold dayne with pretty much the genetics of the targaryens all over him, white hair, purple eyes, and i find curious the amount of hate he has for the house lannister when he tried to kill myrcella, the only weird thing on him is having a streak of midnight black and that just a bunch of all the characters in the books who could bring a surpride in the saga because with martin you never know
@@raulmora442 Is not really clear? This is one theory that exit since the first book, two decades ago, if it was so obvious that people realized in that time (and the show confirm), is impossible for GRRM to don't put it in the books.
I loved the scene where Qyburn tartly asks Jaime how many lives he'd saved and he came back with "half a million."
Just read this chapter in the book. Blew my mind! George is a genius!
Your channel has great content and theories. I especially liked your commentry on Cerci's conflicted issues on power and being a woman and how she views other women. It's very well described and appears accurate for character.
9:25 "Slayer of lies" maybe that's a prophecy about Dany killing Varys at the next episode because of betrayal, or maybe about Tyrion or Jaime.
Well , guess you have your answer now
This vision is symbolic of self realisation. It represents what many great thinkers have expressed. We are all capable of horrible acts and we must realise this before we can move past it.
This is representing choice, you may see snow and think winter is coming. However the buildings also damaged and broken, Empty and cold.
Symbolically representing that if you follow this line of power you can reach out and take it, however it will destroy you, it will be cold, dark and lonely.
The opposite is going beyond the wall and realising what is of value, humanity, and forgetting and moving past the throne and the genocide you are prepared to commit to command it.
Internal struggle between good and evil, morality.
So she reaches for the throne, her dark lust that will destroy her, but is reminded of family. She also leaves them though however realised the importance. This will mean sacrifice, she must overcome we power lust of destruction, and sacrifice what she has been reminded to value. This happens beyond the wall symbolically. The wall is only used here as a divider between humanity and power. Not that she literally sacrifices beyond the wall.
What does she hold dear enough to climax a sacrifice?
Dragons?
Herself?
It's been building to make her seem ruthless so sacrificing herself wouldn't be as powerful as realising that what matters is love and light only to lose it.
However only the dragons seem to have been built to a meaningful relationship.
I think she must forget the throne. Be reminded in a huge way and make a choice to value life again. Then I think Jorah returns cured. They have a close moment after all that's happened. Then she must sacrifice herself and the dragons to return a balance. Fire and ice both destroyed and life flourishes again.
John then must go too, only after his encounter with the nights King, and loses, perhaps being similar to cold hands, and must die (ending)
As it will transpire the doom was intended to create this balance, but failed.
Danny will succeed but must show the transformation first.
Tyrion will sit the throne or rather be tasked to rebuild, little finger will die in a plight for power at the hands of Sansa. Bran will be lost in the Owls wood place and remain with the children there. Cersei will die. Jamie however will not killer Cersei as it repeats the kingslayer story, instead will have a chance to save her, but doesn't. He then will either outcast or leave with Brianna (perhaps one the few good endings)
Arya will meet the red woman, and will be told about the north, however she will die.
The red woman will realise her God is evil and will die fast of old age after breaking connection.
The fire and ice connection will show both are evil, and both somehow created by mortals, the children and men.
It will all end with a maester closing a book and revealing it was all history.
Here after episode 5 of season 8. Damn. We knew all the way back then that this was going to happen.
treason for love, she begged john not to tell his se
sisters and he did and that started a chain of events
yeah thats exactly what I put together
But i wasnt bc he told her they can live together . he did not promise on honor so it wasnt treason. What dany did was an ultimatum
@@artemisstone2929 but they cant live happily ever after with his sisters knowing, you big dummy.
Azor ahai burying his sword in Nissa nissa’s heart: light a fire to love
Damn
After watching s8 ep2 I think Jon will kill Danny... It completes at least three visions and prophesies..
I do not think that Jon will kill Dany... first he doesn't know about Azor Ahai predictions and he already has a sword that can kill night walkers and very probably the Night King which the first Azor Ahai did not possess...Never mind a dragon that very likely can kill the night king... We no longer can rely on the books for predictions simply because they are not there... and as we are clearly told predictions do not necessarily come to pass... and the TV show might go for a slightly different ending. After so much violence and visibly some more to come we might want a somewhat happier end...
I think it's possible that Jon dies along with her dragons fighting the night king , leaving Danny alone to dance with her ghosts. the song is deffinetly foreshadowing the death of Jon or Daenerys.
More likely now.
You were right!