I'd like to take a moment to applaud Matt on his views concerning GnR I'd never really thought of it like that, but they really are a hair metal band, just without ALL of the shame. Kudos, my good man. You made an excellent point.
wait, what? you mean the hallowed art of the documentary can be manipulated or could manufacture footage to twist into their own narrative agenda? Nah nah, you say!
My father (R.I.P.) came of age during the folk era of the early 60's. He once made an interesting observation about the rift between the "purists" who felt drums and electric instruments were sacrilege, and the opportunist trend chasers who shit all over the scene by oversaturating it. I'm trying to think of any genre parallels that we might have experienced since then...
As a fan of John Carpenter, I'd like to try recommending one of his more obscure films, Dark Star- a sci-fi comedy he made while in college and he co-wrote with Dan O'Bannon who later drew inspiration from it when he wrote the original script for Alien.
Hey guys, Just wanted to say I love the show. Tune in every time and watch in between edits. You guys flesh out movies really well, and enjoy the commentary. Keep up the good work and can't wait til the next one!
Here's a suggestion for the show. Have you seen the bizarre 1972 film 'The Ruling Class' starring Peter O'Toole? If not, watch it on the show! I apologize if this has already appeared on a 'Seen It' segment.
Matt Sloan>> If they eventually do a 4th installment of the Decline series, the film makers should go back and meet with alot of the folks they interviewed in the three films previous and see how much they've changed... or are no longer with us.
Matt, yes! We Jam Econo! So many great musicians remembering quite possibly the most musically adept punk band of all time. Excellent choice, my good man!
If you want another interesting rock doc Matt, check out Until The Light Takes Us. It's another metal documentary but it focuses on the rise of Black Metal in the late 80's and how that genre became a caricature of itself over the course of a decade.
This video was great. Your intelegent observations on the decline of hair metal were fascinating and took an avenue that I never thought of. Great Video.
There is a real good documentary on Warren Zevon during his cancer battle and the recording of his final album. Really a gripping and truly sad story of an amazing singer/songwriter.
Every once in a while in the hellish wasteland of the UA-cam comments section, you find something that reaffirms your faith in humanity. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I have commented every show since beggining, followed you since the Channel 101 submission days, and will continue to do so til I'm mentioned on Seen it!! Love the show. Been watching since the 1st episode, well, the first trailer for the first episode even. Anyways, please watch or mention Sam Peckinpah's - "Bring me the Head of Alfredo Garcia" or the Doc's I recently watched: Joe Berlinger's "Paradise Lost" trilogy about the West Memphis 3. Very interesting topic. Cheers to you and yours!
Werner Herzog has been mentioned on Welcome to the basement. For giggles can I recommend watching the youtube video "Werner Herzog reads Wheres Waldo". I liked it so much I wanted to share it.
At the beginning of the show Matt says, it would be one year of watching these movies. I really fucking hope, they continue this series in the next year.
I recommend "Heavy Metal Parking Lot". It's a short documentary that takes place in the parking lot at a Judas Priest concert in the mid 80's. Some very funny interviews during the tail gate.
I agree with the guys. I believe Gn'R killed glam metal. The only time they had the teased hair was in the "Welcome to the Jungle" video. They were also much heavier, had more thoughtful lyrics and the sloppy twin guitar attack was AWESOME.
If you guys are fans of the band, I'd love to hear you talk about Shut Up and Play the Hits!, which is about LCD Soundsystem's final concert and the events leading up to it. Very emotional stuff.
I'd recommend the documentaries "Anvil", regarding the very engaging world of the Canadian metal band of the same name and "You're Gonna Miss Me" which details the life of Roky Ericson of the 13th Floor Elevators in all of his schizophrenic glory.
Dio actually was the one that started "trowing the horns". Nothing to do with devil worship, it is actually a very old Italian superstition symbol, that meant protection from evil. It has to do with the old Roman Mithraic Mysteries. He just thought it looked cool.
UnagiTempura You may have been right.....if I wasn't a huge JoJo fanboy that was into the manga a decade ago and now feel smugly superior to the people watching the anime. Ofcourse that doesn't mean I am not watching the anime....
When you guys talk about GNR, they didn't kill hair metal, but they brought in a major image change. If you look at bands like Poison and Cinderella, by 1989/90 they had totally dropped the hairspray and dressed much less flamboyantly while still selling in the millions. It really was grunge that did the genre in. The funny thing is that the same thing happened to grunge by the mid 90s when the 'rebellious' nature of it became commercialized and homogeneous. Happens to all music scenes really.
ever see the movie "Robot Jox" written and directed by Stuart Gordon? I'd loosely describable it as Rocky4 with giant robots. it flopped in 1989 but not bad enough to stop them from making a worse squeal. As to how good the movie is as a whole I can't say but my young self enjoyed the stop-motion mech fight scenes enough to remember it fondly to this day.
Hey you guys, love the show. I have seen every episode and you guys have made me smile in both good times and bad. I thing that you guys should watch A Christmas Story directed by Bob Clark. Even though you guys have probably seen it already, it is a must see movie every year. I can only hope that you guys will continue the series in 2013, but if you don't...it was a wonderful experiment Thank You!
Seen the Coen Brothers' Barton Fink or Woody Allen's Hannah and Her Sisters? My favourite movies of all time - I know there's quite a contrast between them! Barton Fink for the incredible world the Coens create; Hannah and Her Sisters for the way Woody Allen's fantastic narrative works. Would love to know what you fellow movie lovers think! Thanks, Tom
Oh, the Scorpio King! I haven't seen that in years. I really liked it when I first watched it but I was about 13 years old and he had a bow and arrow... not sure if I would still like it XD The last music documentary I saw was about Jimi Hendrix, I think it was called "Jimi Hendrix, the uncut story". It was amazing. I'm not a particular fan of his but it was so well made and it felt like Jimi Hendrix was involved in making this film happen.
How sad - WTTB has been a welcome update in my youtube feed. I wonder if you've seen Once? Not really a doc but quite a few interesting and real scenes with good music.
Have you guys watched Slient Night, Deadly Night 2? A classic for the "Garbage Day" scene, but the whole thing is dynamite. Just in time for Christmas, toooo...
hey matt and chris i have two suggestions for you to do. first off for a christmas theme i would like to suggest Santa clause the move no not the tim alan flick i mean the movie starring Dudley Moore and John Lithgow. it is in my opinion a classic that deserves recognition. my second suggestion is because you guys like rockumentaries All You Need Is Cash (also known as The Rutles) starring eric idle. it is the british versionn of this is spinal tap.
Repeating an earlier comment, are you going to continue the show beyond the prescribed first year? Because it is probably my favorite BlameSociety series (B&BG right behind).
That finger thing isn't devil horns, Ronnie James Dio popularized it as a metal thing. It's something his grandma (and other superstitious Italian people) used to do called the "malocchio" or evil eye. But from what I have found over the years, the true origin is unclear in 1968 there was a band called Coven that can be seen doing the hand gesture in many pictures, but there's almost no way of knowing who did it first.
you said you love music documentaries, so i'd have to highly recommend It Might get Loud, if you haven't seen it already. easily one of the best music documentaries i've ever seen. made me respect Jack White much more than i did, and left my respect for The Edge completely unchanged (nearly none at all) lol
I'd recommend watching the 1966 British film "It Happened Here". Interesting "Red Dawn"-esque alternate history setting, without the gung-ho "'MURICA, FUCK YEAH!" attitude. Great film for history buffs, or anyone in the mood for a look into British post-war cinema. Interesting side-notes: Stanley Kubrick donated film stock from Dr. Strangelove in order to help finish the film; and the film's cinematographer, Peter Suschitzky, later went on to work on Rocky Horror and Empire Strikes Back.
Whoa! The hammer dulcimer. Second time in a span of just a few hours that I've seen that mentioned in a UA-cam vid, and the first time was in a Greg Benson vid. Did you guys talk about that instrument amongst yourselves, or was that just coincidence?
I would highly recommend the movie "Black Dynamite" for a future episode of Welcome to the Basement, if this comment ends up in seen it I would love to hear your opinion.
I would love to know what you guys thought about primer, a bittersweet life, and some spanish movies you guys like. You have never really talked about any and I would love to hear your two cents about it... love the show keep up the good work
fun show. 24 Hour Party People was interesting. I was hoping you'd confirm my belief that the wrist bands, etc. was so that you couldn't be grabbed so easily-- by the man or in a fight.
As an avid Guns N Roses fan, and a fan of hair metal, Matt is absolutely right when he says GNR killed hair metal. GNR had some hair metal influences (along with punk and early metal), but when they saw what the other bands at the time where doing, they thought it looked awful and ridiculous and decided the best course of action would be to go their own way and the result was turning rock on it's head and in a sense breathing a second life into it.
Would I be correct in assuming you guys will be continuing in 2013? Yoy guys have almost been doing it for a year now and at te begining you said a year long trip or something so I'm wondering if you're keeping it going. For the record I hope you do because I supremely enjoy these.
@qceebunneh Is quite overt. One wonders what crazy diatribes were left in editing, or whether they were edited *for* crazy. Seems like the latter. This series was fraught with awesome; hope you stick with it! The world needs more brainy cinematic fellows!
Not to mention the lead singer of Odin didn't just say that he wants Odin to be the biggest band in history and that he didn't want Odin to be just be another band, but he also said that it would happen like he wasn't even aware of his shortcomings. At least Lizzy Borden's eponymous singer acknowledged his band's shortcomings, because when asked if Lizzy Borden being the best and the biggest doesn't happen, he replied "we know that we had a great time trying."
Those old hair metal bands were silly... and awesome. It wasn’t all good for sure, nothing is. But I enjoy that era of music more than the grunge which was my generation’s music. It’s good, fun music - perfect for a road trip or at the gym.
I have friends who are still in that high school heavy/hair metal face of fuck the world while I still have my parents pay for everything. And because of that I can't stop watching this episode and next to the one I got mentioned in, Lost highway, this has to be my favorite one
May i suggest 2 psychological cyberpunk thrillers that i liked very much: 1995's Strange Days with Ralph Fiennes and 2002's Cypher (Brainstorm) with Jeremy Northam.
I love how Matt's impression of the Faster Pussycat singer was basically Baby Cookie if he sang in a rock band
I thought Baby Cookie was a girl? They call her "she," after all.
It's not devil horns. It's a hex sign to ward off the evil eye.
Ronnie James Dio learned it from his grandmother.
10:06 "I love when Megadeth does old Ink Spots numbers" i lost it haha classic.
5:06 (matt and craig singing about the cathouse) (cat shows up) nice.
14:51 Matt & Craig foretelling Baby Metal’s kitsune sign 😄
I'd like to take a moment to applaud Matt on his views concerning GnR I'd never really thought of it like that, but they really are a hair metal band, just without ALL of the shame. Kudos, my good man. You made an excellent point.
This one's going in my favorites. I hope you guys continue the series next year, probably one of the coolest series I've seen on youtube.
I have a huge backlog of movies for Seen It, so I'm sure I'll get to some of yours eventually.
Yay! This series makes me so happy! Thanks, guys!
According to IMDB, the director admitted that the Ozzy Osbourne orange juice pouring scene was faked.
No shit, why would they of had a camera pointed at his glass at that moment?
Its unfortunate that a documentary would be skewed like that. It defeats the purpose of a documentary.
wait, what? you mean the hallowed art of the documentary can be manipulated or could manufacture footage to twist into their own narrative agenda? Nah nah, you say!
#RipLemmy
i had to pause the video because the Odin pun made me laugh so hard
My father (R.I.P.) came of age during the folk era of the early 60's. He once made an interesting observation about the rift between the "purists" who felt drums and electric instruments were sacrilege, and the opportunist trend chasers who shit all over the scene by oversaturating it. I'm trying to think of any genre parallels that we might have experienced since then...
Can't believe it's been almost a whole year of this series. It has been a wild ride! Definitely some excellent and unusual film choices.
I agree, I now want to see Matt and Craig do the entire series...
As a fan of John Carpenter, I'd like to try recommending one of his more obscure films, Dark Star- a sci-fi comedy he made while in college and he co-wrote with Dan O'Bannon who later drew inspiration from it when he wrote the original script for Alien.
Hey guys, Just wanted to say I love the show. Tune in every time and watch in between edits. You guys flesh out movies really well, and enjoy the commentary. Keep up the good work and can't wait til the next one!
Please say there will be a season 2! LOVED this series from the start!
Listening to you guys talk makes me feel smarter.
this is probably the most underrated series on youtube
As long as the next episode doesn't cover the trainwreck "Jingle all the Way" I'll be happy. Great job as always fellas.
Here's a suggestion for the show. Have you seen the bizarre 1972 film 'The Ruling Class' starring Peter O'Toole? If not, watch it on the show! I apologize if this has already appeared on a 'Seen It' segment.
Matt Sloan>> If they eventually do a 4th installment of the Decline series, the film makers should go back and meet with alot of the folks they interviewed in the three films previous and see how much they've changed... or are no longer with us.
Matt, yes! We Jam Econo! So many great musicians remembering quite possibly the most musically adept punk band of all time. Excellent choice, my good man!
Glad to hear somebody besides me feel that G-n-R killed glam rock...and not Grunge. Well done young man.(I'm your elder) Love your shows!!
If you want another interesting rock doc Matt, check out Until The Light Takes Us. It's another metal documentary but it focuses on the rise of Black Metal in the late 80's and how that genre became a caricature of itself over the course of a decade.
This video was great. Your intelegent observations on the decline of hair metal were fascinating and took an avenue that I never thought of. Great Video.
Great episode, enjoyed it very much. I hope this thing goes on for another season! So much to explore left...
I would love to see more of your vinyl collection.
There is a real good documentary on Warren Zevon during his cancer battle and the recording of his final album. Really a gripping and truly sad story of an amazing singer/songwriter.
Every once in a while in the hellish wasteland of the UA-cam comments section, you find something that reaffirms your faith in humanity. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I have commented every show since beggining, followed you since the Channel 101 submission days, and will continue to do so til I'm mentioned on Seen it!!
Love the show. Been watching since the 1st episode, well, the first trailer for the first episode even. Anyways, please watch or mention
Sam Peckinpah's - "Bring me the Head of Alfredo Garcia"
or the Doc's I recently watched:
Joe Berlinger's "Paradise Lost" trilogy about the West Memphis 3.
Very interesting topic.
Cheers to you and yours!
Werner Herzog has been mentioned on Welcome to the basement. For giggles can I recommend watching the youtube video "Werner Herzog reads Wheres Waldo". I liked it so much I wanted to share it.
The first Decline was the best. Fear DESTROYED!! X was awesome.
As always, great show! One of the few out there I will devote 20 minutes to.
All 3 movies are incredible!
At the beginning of the show Matt says, it would be one year of watching these movies.
I really fucking hope, they continue this series in the next year.
I recommend "Heavy Metal Parking Lot". It's a short documentary that takes place in the parking lot at a Judas Priest concert in the mid 80's. Some very funny interviews during the tail gate.
Astute point about Metal and Folk. This is Spinal Tap and A Mighty Wind would agree!
Aw man, at first I thought you were reviewing the first Decline of Western Civilization. That movie was so good!
I love the Babymetal references they didn't realize they were doing
I agree with the guys. I believe Gn'R killed glam metal. The only time they had the teased hair was in the "Welcome to the Jungle" video. They were also much heavier, had more thoughtful lyrics and the sloppy twin guitar attack was AWESOME.
If you guys are fans of the band, I'd love to hear you talk about Shut Up and Play the Hits!, which is about LCD Soundsystem's final concert and the events leading up to it. Very emotional stuff.
I'd recommend the documentaries "Anvil", regarding the very engaging world of the Canadian metal band of the same name and "You're Gonna Miss Me" which details the life of Roky Ericson of the 13th Floor Elevators in all of his schizophrenic glory.
I was literally talking about the ink spots right before Matt talked about them! 😂
Dio actually was the one that started "trowing the horns".
Nothing to do with devil worship, it is actually a very old Italian superstition symbol, that meant protection from evil. It has to do with the old Roman Mithraic Mysteries.
He just thought it looked cool.
CUNNY BATHER i feel like the jojo reference might have been lost on that person 😂
UnagiTempura
You may have been right.....if I wasn't a huge JoJo fanboy that was into the manga a decade ago and now feel smugly superior to the people watching the anime. Ofcourse that doesn't mean I am not watching the anime....
Trifon Trifonov JoJo is the only subject matter ill allow people to be smug about :p
Dio stole it from Jinx Dawson. Look it up.
I feel like a young punk listening to these 2 'old' guys talking about their memories.
Recommendation: -The Court Jester
When you guys talk about GNR, they didn't kill hair metal, but they brought in a major image change. If you look at bands like Poison and Cinderella, by 1989/90 they had totally dropped the hairspray and dressed much less flamboyantly while still selling in the millions. It really was grunge that did the genre in. The funny thing is that the same thing happened to grunge by the mid 90s when the 'rebellious' nature of it became commercialized and homogeneous. Happens to all music scenes really.
I liked when the cat came into the shot after cathouse.
"Funny Games" (the American version) would be perfect for this show. It's fun, disturbing, and will leave you with plenty to talk about.
ever see the movie "Robot Jox" written and directed by Stuart Gordon? I'd loosely describable it as Rocky4 with giant robots. it flopped in 1989 but not bad enough to stop them from making a worse squeal. As to how good the movie is as a whole I can't say but my young self enjoyed the stop-motion mech fight scenes enough to remember it fondly to this day.
This film has always made me
Hey you guys, love the show. I have seen every episode and you guys have made me smile in both good times and bad. I thing that you guys should watch A Christmas Story directed by Bob Clark. Even though you guys have probably seen it already, it is a must see movie every year. I can only hope that you guys will continue the series in 2013, but if you don't...it was a wonderful experiment
Thank You!
Other rock docs worth mentioning "Pantera Home Videos" (like jackass but with a metal band) and the woodstock documentary.
dio explains where that came from, cause he is the man who introduced it
Yep, it was an Italian hex to get RID of demons.
Next episode will be on my birthday, cool.
Seen the Coen Brothers' Barton Fink or Woody Allen's Hannah and Her Sisters? My favourite movies of all time - I know there's quite a contrast between them! Barton Fink for the incredible world the Coens create; Hannah and Her Sisters for the way Woody Allen's fantastic narrative works. Would love to know what you fellow movie lovers think! Thanks, Tom
Aww.. Damn. I have to WAIT for the next Welcome to the Basements. :(
I say Matt and Craig do a mini episode where they show their top 10 favorite records.
Looks like Craig is down with the wolfpack... keep up the great work guys!
When is Craig going to be on Beer and Board Games!? Love both shows!
Oh, the Scorpio King! I haven't seen that in years. I really liked it when I first watched it but I was about 13 years old and he had a bow and arrow... not sure if I would still like it XD
The last music documentary I saw was about Jimi Hendrix, I think it was called "Jimi Hendrix, the uncut story". It was amazing. I'm not a particular fan of his but it was so well made and it felt like Jimi Hendrix was involved in making this film happen.
How sad - WTTB has been a welcome update in my youtube feed. I wonder if you've seen Once? Not really a doc but quite a few interesting and real scenes with good music.
I think you guys should do a scene it based completely on book adaptations. That would be pretty interesting.
Have you guys watched Slient Night, Deadly Night 2? A classic for the "Garbage Day" scene, but the whole thing is dynamite. Just in time for Christmas, toooo...
it needed Rod Torfulson's Armada featuring Herman Menderchuck to truly encompass the metal years.
hey matt and chris i have two suggestions for you to do. first off for a christmas theme i would like to suggest Santa clause the move no not the tim alan flick i mean the movie starring Dudley Moore and John Lithgow. it is in my opinion a classic that deserves recognition. my second suggestion is because you guys like rockumentaries All You Need Is Cash (also known as The Rutles) starring eric idle. it is the british versionn of this is spinal tap.
Old metal is best metal.
Hey guys great job on this series! Ever watched Tucker and Dale vs Evil by Eli Craig?
5:22-5:30, the real baby cookie
Repeating an earlier comment, are you going to continue the show beyond the prescribed first year? Because it is probably my favorite BlameSociety series (B&BG right behind).
I wish there was a love button just for that DFW reference.
That finger thing isn't devil horns, Ronnie James Dio popularized it as a metal thing. It's something his grandma (and other superstitious Italian people) used to do called the "malocchio" or evil eye. But from what I have found over the years, the true origin is unclear in 1968 there was a band called Coven that can be seen doing the hand gesture in many pictures, but there's almost no way of knowing who did it first.
you said you love music documentaries, so i'd have to highly recommend It Might get Loud, if you haven't seen it already. easily one of the best music documentaries i've ever seen. made me respect Jack White much more than i did, and left my respect for The Edge completely unchanged (nearly none at all) lol
I have 2 suggestions for you guys to watch, both of these pretty much my favorites: Lords of Dogtown (2005) and Oh Brother Where Art Thou? (2000)
I'd recommend watching the 1966 British film "It Happened Here". Interesting "Red Dawn"-esque alternate history setting, without the gung-ho "'MURICA, FUCK YEAH!" attitude. Great film for history buffs, or anyone in the mood for a look into British post-war cinema.
Interesting side-notes: Stanley Kubrick donated film stock from Dr. Strangelove in order to help finish the film; and the film's cinematographer, Peter Suschitzky, later went on to work on Rocky Horror and Empire Strikes Back.
It's also popular with Hindus and Buddhists as a mudra, or a yogic hand posture, called Apana Mudra.
Whoa! The hammer dulcimer. Second time in a span of just a few hours that I've seen that mentioned in a UA-cam vid, and the first time was in a Greg Benson vid. Did you guys talk about that instrument amongst yourselves, or was that just coincidence?
I would highly recommend the movie "Black Dynamite" for a future episode of Welcome to the Basement, if this comment ends up in seen it I would love to hear your opinion.
Been watching a lot of wrestling docs lately.
Two I would suggest would be Bret Hart: Wrestling with shadows, and Beyond the Matt.
I would love to know what you guys thought about primer, a bittersweet life, and some spanish movies you guys like. You have never really talked about any and I would love to hear your two cents about it... love the show keep up the good work
fun show. 24 Hour Party People was interesting. I was hoping you'd confirm my belief that the wrist bands, etc. was so that you couldn't be grabbed so easily-- by the man or in a fight.
That Ozzy picture scared the shit out of me
As an avid Guns N Roses fan, and a fan of hair metal, Matt is absolutely right when he says GNR killed hair metal. GNR had some hair metal influences (along with punk and early metal), but when they saw what the other bands at the time where doing, they thought it looked awful and ridiculous and decided the best course of action would be to go their own way and the result was turning rock on it's head and in a sense breathing a second life into it.
Would I be correct in assuming you guys will be continuing in 2013? Yoy guys have almost been doing it for a year now and at te begining you said a year long trip or something so I'm wondering if you're keeping it going. For the record I hope you do because I supremely enjoy these.
@qceebunneh Is quite overt. One wonders what crazy diatribes were left in editing, or whether they were edited *for* crazy. Seems like the latter. This series was fraught with awesome; hope you stick with it! The world needs more brainy cinematic fellows!
Odin and Faster Pussycat are, and never will be, on anyone's favorite band list. Ever.
yaaa Faster Pussycat yaaaa!!! \m/
shockingly, faster pussycat had a top 40 hit with a song called "house of pain"
wrong. Faster Pussycat was my favorite band. I still love them.
Not to mention the lead singer of Odin didn't just say that he wants Odin to be the biggest band in history and that he didn't want Odin to be just be another band, but he also said that it would happen like he wasn't even aware of his shortcomings. At least Lizzy Borden's eponymous singer acknowledged his band's shortcomings, because when asked if Lizzy Borden being the best and the biggest doesn't happen, he replied "we know that we had a great time trying."
"House of Pain" and "Nonstop to Nowhere" are the ONLY songs by them I enjoy.
Those old hair metal bands were silly... and awesome. It wasn’t all good for sure, nothing is. But I enjoy that era of music more than the grunge which was my generation’s music. It’s good, fun music - perfect for a road trip or at the gym.
wow this movie added with the best band....i'll give it that
ever seen the 1967 Milos Forman movie: The Fireman's Ball? It is a Czech comedy about an annual fireman's ball .
Watch Strange Days with Ralph Fiennes and Angela Bassett. Great sci-fi, and a great new year's movie.
Could you guys please give some advice on what comedies to watch?
i've always wondered. the movies seen in the intro that are all stacked up are they all movies you've never seen Matt?
Matt, if you haven't already, you should check out A Band Called Death.
I politely admit I don't find baby cookie funny. But when i heard baby cookie singing Faster Pussycat, I nearly died from laughing. Too good.
I have friends who are still in that high school heavy/hair metal face of fuck the world while I still have my parents pay for everything. And because of that I can't stop watching this episode and next to the one I got mentioned in, Lost highway, this has to be my favorite one
May i suggest 2 psychological cyberpunk thrillers that i liked very much:
1995's Strange Days with Ralph Fiennes and
2002's Cypher (Brainstorm) with Jeremy Northam.
What bothers me most is the old promoter chanting "Odin! Odin! Odin" instead of the more phonetically friendly "O-Din! O-Din! O-Din!"
Have you seen Zardoz? That weird ass Sean Connery movie? BTW I love this show, it is great that you guys are doing this.
And (for Barton Fink) what do you think about the symbolism and role/purpose of Charlie Meadows (John Goodman) in the film?