Why do we always aim so low..? You say you want an icon movie but your first thought is HBO?? "This has alway been a problem for our kind.. even our DREAMS.. are small" - Marco Inarus
Benji Man! Because he didn't end slavery or the civil war and just thought he was helping by lightening slaves work load, assisting with the Underground Railroad, and becoming a lawyer. If you have knowledge, power, and ability, to stop evil and you sit idly by then you're worse than the people committing those crimes.
Its not like he could have just gone and told the entire world to end slavery or force the south to surrender i mean he could have but that wouldn't have solved the problems if anything it could have led him to becoming like Injustice Superman had good intentions from the start turned into a power mad dictator who will kill anyone who crosses him.
+Daemon Blackfyre - Yeah. He's extremely powerful, and shall I say it?... Almost OP! Maybe coach will let him play a little more... Maybe, at least, get a cameo in a live action film or something. Let him come in and ROCK Darkseid with one good hit! 😲 😁
well if he couldn't shack up starbreaker then how could he shack up Darkseid? almost OP? that would mean he is above superman and he is not. I like him though......more than superman to be truthful. I hate the fact that DC acts like their aren't anybody that is more powerful than superman.
Icon is an excellent character that definitely needs more recognition and love. He needed to be involved more in the Young Justice animated series and he also needs to appear on the big screen.
Icon is genuinely a cool character that I'd like to see be introduced into the Snyderverse or have his own show not connected to any pre established universe. Thanks for the video by the way 👍. I now understand Icon more and get his character more in Young Justice
I don't want icon anywhere near the snyderverse tbh.. I'm a BIG fan of Zacks.. but Milestone &its flagship characters need to get away from DC &WB entirely &do their own thing.. they were their own universe for a long time.. with all the upheaval at WB/DC they'll just get second hand citizen treatment & characters with this much potential deserve better
Lets just say in so many words, Superman is a carbon copy of icon, and from my knowledge of the human body black history and the study of the universe, I think Icon was the first Superman before they even came out with the Superman we have now.... amazing! Just from taking time and learning about Icon, he is now my all time favorite black superhero! ... and when he said alien, I knew right off the bat where this leads back to.
Cuz every iconic character has to be black now. Rather then creating a one of its own or giving a already know superhero like icon the spotlight they’d rather just make Superman black which is stupid
After discussing the fact that Superman admitted that no one had never hit him (including Darkseid) as hard as Icon, you only giving him a rating of 8? Come on man' !!!!! Really???
I've heard this sentiment a bit lately! LOL! On power alone he'd be a high 9 or 10. Hands down! He just hasn't had enough of an impact on the overall DC Universe! I admit that this isn't his fault though! I blame writers for keeping a star player "on the bench!" If he gets more playing time, then he'll easily step up on my rating scale!
New Sage he really hasn't affected the status quo, and it's a shame. With so many new readers coming to comics ,the publishers are beginning to bring in some of the badass obscure characters hoping to jumpstart a fandom.
Plus DC doesn't have the full rights to the character they have to pay out Milestone Comics to even use him. We were lucky to even see him and Rocket in Young Justice. I wish DC could just buy out Milestone and use ALL of the Dakotaverse characters or hell even Marvel. Though I would want Marvel to actually get good writers not lazy ones to write the characters. If DC was able to get Milestone to let them have the rights to the characters you would see a lot more of Icon and Static Shock in comics.
If Icon ever gets a televised series I hope it's produced and cast in a way that gets the longevity of shows like smallville, The flash or stranger things which needs another season asap.
I was a huge fan of Milestone Comics back in the early 90’s. Icon is a great character and it’s really awesome that after Milestone ran its course that DC brought Icon into the fold making him a part of the DC Universe proper. I also really liked KoBalt too. He was a really kickass brutal vigilante in the Dakota Universe. I would love for you to do a superhero breakdown on KoBalt. I’m sure not too many people know who he is so I think it would make for a great video. As always I love your content and your detailed videos never disappoint! Great work!💪🏻
WB executives are a bunch of fools. I don't like calling people names but some people deserve it and they clearly are that. Warner Brothers apparently isn't smart enough to realize that what they could've done is just carry on with Henry Cavill as Superman AND bring in black Superman analogues like Val-Zod,Calvin Ellis and Icon and they could have even brought in a rebooted and reintroduced John Henry Irons(Steel). I'm going to be writing my own comic books in the future and I'm going to have characters of all races and backgrounds(including a character who is basically an Asian Superman and including a character who is basically a black Superman and he'll be like a mix of Marvel's Blue Marvel,Icon and Meteor Man),therefore there will be no need for me to race-change characters. WB doing this is just incredibly dumb and as a comic book fan,I think it's embarrassing,actually. A lot of people would have loved for Icon to get his own movie but instead WB is going to go and reboot the Superman franchise with a black Superman. They're making themselves look clueless when they pull stunts like this.
@@JR-ju3kj My biggest concern is Superman himself in particular. Warner bros for the longest time has not given the character the respect and representation he deserves, he is always getting pushed aside so batman can get all the spotlight and attention while all superman does is be an absolute jobber who does little to nothing else especially within his mainstream media portrayals. Now they apparantly want to do away with the traditional superman because they don't know how to make him relevant which really is their own fault for undermining for so many years and just have a unoriginal alternate universe version take his place and disrespect the fans of the character. The real tradgety i can predict right now is once this movie bombs at the box office, the executives are going to blame the ip for the faliure and more bad marks are going to be crossed onto supermans name thanks to their incompetence. Alot of people are officially starting to consider Superman as the most disrespected character in all of fiction.
I agree bro warner bros are so stupid! many characters to make great movie, icon, Mr majestic, Orion, big barda, Mr miracle, highfather, raven, deathstroke, val zod, captain atom, plasticman, lobo, (nubia woman woman black twins sister), atom, zatanna, New gods, green lanterns Corp, despero , mongul, phantom strangers, braniac, steel, eradicator, superdog, superpets, bizzarro, hawkman, hawkgirl, powergirl, supergirl, etcc
Icon has to be one of, if not THE most underrated and underutilized DC character. This is why I don’t get WB trying to make a movie where Clark Kent Superman is black, when Icon is RIGHT HERE and practically begging for his own movie. It’s really a shame tbh. The most we’ve seen of him in recent years I believe were his brief cameos in Young Justice
Been coming back to this breakdown so much I'm hoping for a show or film on Icon one of the toughest DC heros in the league and his story and ability is incredible.
+kingmoose - 😅 I'm glad my madness is starting to make sense for you now! But... You know that means you might be going mad too! 😂 Nah... Have a good one!
Wow that is impressive. Superman confessed that no-one has ever punched him that hard including Darkseid? That is astonishing. I never knew that he was so powerful. I agree with your rating of 8 and it's truly nostalgic.
Loved the write up on this largely unknown Superhero. He (and Rocket) are easily two of my favorites. He is quite a character as is Rocket. You did a GREAT job. I found it interesting that as I read their comics he is a registered Republican with rather conservative views. As he interacted with Rocket, though - he changed his views somewhat because of her influence. Rocket - being a liberally-minded 16 year old youth had a profound and positive influence on him and they went back and forth with their views in the Comics. I found their relationship to be more of a Father - Daughter thing than anything else. You should include that he CAN be damaged / hurt. If I recall, the villain / hero also known as Payback slashed him with his claws and nearly killed him in one of the Icon issues. He and Payback would eventually go on to become friends. Payback was one of the "Bang Babies" that was produced along with the Blood Syndicate and a few others from the Dakotaverse. I also recall that he was defeated by the Blood Syndicate at least once while he was engaging them. If I recall it was in the issue where Rocket is standing over him trying to protect him. Icon - during an engagement with Superman - even stated that he was "Physically Superior" to him, if he held back. I am assuming that Icon meant he'd have to fully utilize his Positron Manipulation to enhance his powers to be on par with Superman. The "naysayers" to Icon would state that he is "TOO OP" to include on the Big Screen. Would LOVE for Warner Brothers / DC to make a Movie about him and Rocket. I really don't think that the late (and GREAT) Dwayne McDuffie meant for him to be stronger - better than Superman. Speaking of McDuffie - he would go on to produce / write many episodes of the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited series. He showcased Green Lantern John Stewart in a POSITIVE and POWERFUL light. Iocn is EASILY Superman's equal. As he should be. Again - GREAT write up on him and THANK YOU. If you haven't already - please do a video on Raquel Irving / Rocket.
Icon was always one of my favorite characters I always thought he was really cool I hope in future Justice League stories he gets more of a role as a team leader
found a ICON issue 1 in my local comic store. worth picking it up. first time I knew about Icon I Blind By a superman comic it was the world's collide issue. awesome review
@The Objective Theist he's not a poster boy of superman although they have similar basics of power's don't think you know what cultural appropriation is but I'll educate you on it sometime
@The Objective Theist here I'll give you the short part cultural appropriation is taking a culture using it not paying homage and claiming it as you're own it can't possibly be used in this because icon is or could be a copy of superman but there are plenty of more literal copys of superman seems lile you're calling it cultural appropriation because the character is black which has nothing to do with the term superman does have a fan base but culture is something in you're sould passed down gro. Generation to generation it's in your everyday life i don't see how a character javing similarities can be that
Cook video thanks for sharing. Don't be surprised if he's brought to the silver screen with the success of Marvels Black Panther. DC gotta take their time and do it right. That's plenty in his bio to work with. We live in the world of the "pre prequels! They could give the fans a trilogy!! I enjoyed both versions of Watchmen and I'd never heard of those characters before. I think it's about time they do something new and exciting! Luke Cage comes to mind as I'm writing this. This is a good opportunity for DC to make cinema history.
@@NewSage Not sure mainstream audiences wouldn't be confused by the notion of a Superman level character that not only tolerated slavery, and then the Jim Crow era afterward, but participated in it on the losing end. I know I am. Now, I don't know Icon as a character and I'm sure that the creators have written some kind of workaround to this obvious problem, but you have to admit, that is asking for a lot of suspension of disbelief from the audience.
Blue marvel has anti matter powers, has a blue costume, is leader of the ultimates and I visibly older than icon. So all black people look alike even in comics?
Im not sensitive. Just know whomever i am exactly talking about. Characters having the same physical attributes doesnt make them the same. Thats imbecile way of thinking. Blue marvel is mutate. He is generator and reactor of anti matter. Icon gains abilities from his genetics. You are dumb. Val zod and guardian prime are the same to you, because they both dark skin superheroes with capes. But you are definitely a troll. I posted that comment a year ago. You definitely wanted some attention. Lol. Kids
In minute 4:39, what comic book issue is the 'left side part of the picture' located in?...it has several of the black superheroes characters in one photo...is it a variant? Where can I find that photo?
Great story! He reminds me of Dad when I was his side-kick, "The Kid". I have a few copies of ICON, but not all of them....yet. Dad was one of those Lone Ranger junkies who actually WATCHED the radio. I wonder if he knew the real Lone Ranger was black.....ah, the wild wild west. He was from KCMO, Mom's mother was born in Wichita. And he married her in the mid 50s when he earned his first Master's degree in Poly Sci. We were both systems analysts.
Let me say this first... I subscribed to your UA-cam channel not too long ago... and I am loving your video synopsis. Videos are concise, informative, and fun to watch, and your vocal tone is nice. Now, as an avid comic book geek myself... I pose a question to you as you say this often depending on the character you reference in your video. Is it interesting to you that many of these high-level Heroes and Villains have genius-level intellect yet behave in less than genius-level manner? You think being that smart would mean a “smarter” way to handle the situational experience. Just thinking out loud because DC and Marvel include with many of their beloved characters an intellectual factor of the highest order yet few ask themselves, “Is there a better way to handle this situation without massive destruction and large death toll across the locality they are in?” 😂
Me imaging Jakie Chiles(from Seinfeld) With Superman's powers🤣! Very inspiring thoo😎❤✊🏾! And I thought Earth 23s Superman was a big deal...As a matter of fact; could you do a video on Earth 23 around February? It would be appropriate around that time AND it would be "The Year 20 "23"🤣!
He was part of the under ground rail road .he gets a 10 . not for his physical strength but for his integrity to do the right thing for the right reason when no one's around. Anyone who fights for freedom of self gets a 10 in my book . Becasue of what he stands for they won't make a movie out of him . His back story would cause a uprising. Srry folks no movie for icon smh
All that aside he is physically strong as superman. And as old and smart as the Martian manhunter and able to admit waves from his body also did he defend the Justice League during Young Justice the reach chapter 🤔 and also able to hit harder to then darkseid
No he said that was the hardest he has ever been punched at the time Darkseid is a literal god and A God > random alien when it comes to strength and power. This here is Darkseid effortlessly slapping Superman aside like he was nothing. photobucket.com/gallery/user/aarons24/media/bWVkaWFJZDo0MzU4OTQ1Nw==/?ref=
I read in some sites that Icon has super senses too, like sight, hearing etc. Are his senses similar to Superman's? Like, does he have x-ray vision? I started to read his comic from the 90's but I'm still on the first ten issues. On the "Icon vs hardware" from 2021 he seemed to listen to her signaling device from "across the world", but I'm not sure kkkkk Are there other examples?
So many characters like Icon that DC doesn't use, they could stop making villains for Batman and Superman then just give them to Icon to develop the character instead
Nice vid, I wish DC could, or would use him more I'd like to see him and Martian Manhunter together. Say @2:36 who are those guys him and John Stewart are fightning? I've never see that book before.
Kavahn Wise He cant alter reality or bring people back to life ..so maybe physicality in one story but im sure Sentry full on ..in other stories went one on one with Galactus and World Breaker Hulk..it depends on the writers and what powers they choose to use in a story
How many times has sentry displayed those abilities? I look at those feats the same as I look at superman creating mini clones of himself... And even so, sentry couldn't handle anti man, he can't alter reality without his serum, and he got one hit ko'ed when blue marvel "let loose"
I get what you mean about writers and how they may choose to "nerf or buff " characters based on the in comic situation, but blue marvel demolished King Hyperion while Sentry folded like clean clothes.
Kavahn Wise I can guarantee That Blue Marvel wont take down World Breaker Hulk ..no one from earth can using physical force alone beat World Breaker Hulk..Sentry was the only one who stopped him but couldnt beat him they both passed out ..secondly Sentry doesnt need a serum he took it years ago only 1 time needed...he can alter reality friend ..think about it..change what happens he can win lose he destroy or bring back to life. .just by thinking it..of course he might not be the strongest muscle wise but he has way more powers than just muscle.. hes the most powerful Marvel has next to Galactus and Hulk..way more various powers than Blue Marvels energy and strength...Blue Marvel needed the Whole Ultimates team to to fight Galactus..Sentry fought Galactus alone..it depends on the writers..bud..not the hero and you go by consistency. .Sentry..has won fights and destroyed cities like Asgard by himself and even brought people back to life even himself. .Blue Marvel won that fight because thats what writers wanted ..until Sentry goes and beats everyone down in another story..again
You remember recently when everyone was going crazy cause dc was trying to make Superman black. My first thought was Icon is essentially your black Superman. Just give him a movie instead of trying to black wash Superman.
Icon deserves a movie. His back story is one of the best. HBO Max make this happen!
Icon deserves a movie and I think Marvel's Blue Marvel(basically a black Marvel version of Superman)deserves a movie,too.
Only thing is I bet they would completely tone down his Conservative leanings
I wish
Why do we always aim so low..? You say you want an icon movie but your first thought is HBO??
"This has alway been a problem for our kind.. even our DREAMS.. are small" - Marco Inarus
@@o-wolf That was a nice quote, but HBO Max / WB whoever should make a big screen movie. A big screen Icon movie is the only way to go.
Love his back story the most , hate he never gets the spotlight
raw blze why do you love it. He's the worst I've ever heard of.
Emerson Herndon Well.... Why is it the worst you've heard of?
Benji Man! Because he didn't end slavery or the civil war and just thought he was helping by lightening slaves work load, assisting with the Underground Railroad, and becoming a lawyer. If you have knowledge, power, and ability, to stop evil and you sit idly by then you're worse than the people committing those crimes.
Its not like he could have just gone and told the entire world to end slavery or force the south to surrender i mean he could have but that wouldn't have solved the problems if anything it could have led him to becoming like Injustice Superman had good intentions from the start turned into a power mad dictator who will kill anyone who crosses him.
+Emerson Herndon Might doesn't make right.That's something that makes a hero.
As a big Superman fan I appreciate you bringing icon to light
Icon needs to be seen more! Along with Rocket, Static, and the other Milestone Media characters!
C"mon, DC Comics! Get it together!
Where the fuck did that acknowledgement stem from? I thought we were discussing ICON.😮
It’s happening next month🥰
They should just return some of these characters back to their original owners. Look at how they have jobbered Shazam.
@@robertmyers2994 they're all milestone characters.
@@elijahblechman8633fr it would be nice to acknowledge the supporting characters of icon it helps build his character
I want more Icon. His powers sound pretty cool.
+Daemon Blackfyre - Yeah. He's extremely powerful, and shall I say it?... Almost OP! Maybe coach will let him play a little more... Maybe, at least, get a cameo in a live action film or something. Let him come in and ROCK Darkseid with one good hit! 😲 😁
well if he couldn't shack up starbreaker then how could he shack up Darkseid? almost OP? that would mean he is above superman and he is not. I like him though......more than superman to be truthful. I hate the fact that DC acts like their aren't anybody that is more powerful than superman.
Daemon Blackfyre Dwyane McDuffie his creator died and more
yeeah he would be rolling in his grave if he knew how his creation were being treated lol
Red October what’s your point supes can’t beat darkseid by himself (canon rebirth comics)
Icon is an excellent character that definitely needs more recognition and love. He needed to be involved more in the Young Justice animated series and he also needs to appear on the big screen.
You call him Icon... I call him The GOAT!!!
Right on
why? lol
@givemespace. He is Superman without the corny dialogue and moral compass. So he is the GOAT
skeze exactly what do you think a moral compass is?
a burden
I have a physical copy of issue #1 icon
I have a lot of old issues of Icon.Icon's one of the best Superman analogues in comics.
Icon is the most patient being of all time. Waiting on humanity's technology to catch up enough to fix his spaceship. What a Chad.
Definitely deserves a 10. I understand his influence isn't strong but his powers are almost second to none.
Icon is genuinely a cool character that I'd like to see be introduced into the Snyderverse or have his own show not connected to any pre established universe.
Thanks for the video by the way 👍. I now understand Icon more and get his character more in Young Justice
I don't want icon anywhere near the snyderverse tbh.. I'm a BIG fan of Zacks.. but Milestone &its flagship characters need to get away from DC &WB entirely &do their own thing.. they were their own universe for a long time.. with all the upheaval at WB/DC they'll just get second hand citizen treatment & characters with this much potential deserve better
ICON is amazing and I hope DC Comics gives him a movie or a series really really soon.
Agreed!
Icon definitely should get his own movie!
Hopefully they will bring this character to life in the coming years. Him and Blue Marvel deserve some shine.
Lets just say in so many words, Superman is a carbon copy of icon, and from my knowledge of the human body black history and the study of the universe, I think Icon was the first Superman before they even came out with the Superman we have now.... amazing! Just from taking time and learning about Icon, he is now my all time favorite black superhero! ... and when he said alien, I knew right off the bat where this leads back to.
He’s mine too
Icon for sure is a 10/10😤 great video by the way👍
How does Warner Bros have a character like this in the tuck and still decides to go with a black Superman🤦🏽♂️
Cuz every iconic character has to be black now. Rather then creating a one of its own or giving a already know superhero like icon the spotlight they’d rather just make Superman black which is stupid
Icon and the entire Milestone Media crew is a 10.
One of the most underrated characters in DC.
+The Nuetrix - We rarely see him! 🤔
After discussing the fact that Superman admitted that no one had never hit him (including Darkseid) as hard as Icon, you only giving him a rating of 8? Come on man' !!!!! Really???
I've heard this sentiment a bit lately! LOL! On power alone he'd be a high 9 or 10. Hands down! He just hasn't had enough of an impact on the overall DC Universe! I admit that this isn't his fault though! I blame writers for keeping a star player "on the bench!" If he gets more playing time, then he'll easily step up on my rating scale!
New Sage he really hasn't affected the status quo, and it's a shame. With so many new readers coming to comics ,the publishers are beginning to bring in some of the badass obscure characters hoping to jumpstart a fandom.
Plus DC doesn't have the full rights to the character they have to pay out Milestone Comics to even use him. We were lucky to even see him and Rocket in Young Justice. I wish DC could just buy out Milestone and use ALL of the Dakotaverse characters or hell even Marvel. Though I would want Marvel to actually get good writers not lazy ones to write the characters. If DC was able to get Milestone to let them have the rights to the characters you would see a lot more of Icon and Static Shock in comics.
Chronic Gainz anyone but marvel please not Marvel they'll turn Dakotaverse characters into sjw idiots and try to alter the characters
@Raj So Icon helping Harriet Tubman with the Underground Railroad wasn't "Social Justice"?? Smh.
If Icon ever gets a televised series I hope it's produced and cast in a way that gets the longevity of shows like smallville, The flash or stranger things which needs another season asap.
Just make Dakotaverse series
I was a huge fan of Milestone Comics back in the early 90’s. Icon is a great character and it’s really awesome that after Milestone ran its course that DC brought Icon into the fold making him a part of the DC Universe proper. I also really liked KoBalt too. He was a really kickass brutal vigilante in the Dakota Universe. I would love for you to do a superhero breakdown on KoBalt. I’m sure not too many people know who he is so I think it would make for a great video. As always I love your content and your detailed videos never disappoint! Great work!💪🏻
Still waiting for Icon to be main stream, dude deserves his own movie in the DCEU.
So underrated hero. Give him a movie!
THIS is who Michael B. Jordan should be playing!!!
Who's he playing now?
Look up earth 2 superman or val zod
Deandre Bishop no michael is too young
I say Denzel Washington
No
No he should not
And yet WB want to recreate a black superman when we already have one to use.
WB executives are a bunch of fools. I don't like calling people names but some people deserve it and they clearly are that. Warner Brothers apparently isn't smart enough to realize that what they could've done is just carry on with Henry Cavill as Superman AND bring in black Superman analogues like Val-Zod,Calvin Ellis and Icon and they could have even brought in a rebooted and reintroduced John Henry Irons(Steel).
I'm going to be writing my own comic books in the future and I'm going to have characters of all races and backgrounds(including a character who is basically an Asian Superman and including a character who is basically a black Superman and he'll be like a mix of Marvel's Blue Marvel,Icon and Meteor Man),therefore there will be no need for me to race-change characters. WB doing this is just incredibly dumb and as a comic book fan,I think it's embarrassing,actually. A lot of people would have loved for Icon to get his own movie but instead WB is going to go and reboot the Superman franchise with a black Superman. They're making themselves look clueless when they pull stunts like this.
@@JR-ju3kj My biggest concern is Superman himself in particular. Warner bros for the longest time has not given the character the respect and representation he deserves, he is always getting pushed aside so batman can get all the spotlight and attention while all superman does is be an absolute jobber who does little to nothing else especially within his mainstream media portrayals.
Now they apparantly want to do away with the traditional superman because they don't know how to make him relevant which really is their own fault for undermining for so many years and just have a unoriginal alternate universe version take his place and disrespect the fans of the character.
The real tradgety i can predict right now is once this movie bombs at the box office, the executives are going to blame the ip for the faliure and more bad marks are going to be crossed onto supermans name thanks to their incompetence.
Alot of people are officially starting to consider Superman as the most disrespected character in all of fiction.
I agree bro warner bros are so stupid! many characters to make great movie, icon, Mr majestic, Orion, big barda, Mr miracle, highfather, raven, deathstroke, val zod, captain atom, plasticman, lobo, (nubia woman woman black twins sister), atom, zatanna, New gods, green lanterns Corp, despero , mongul, phantom strangers, braniac, steel, eradicator, superdog, superpets, bizzarro, hawkman, hawkgirl, powergirl, supergirl, etcc
this is my first time hearing about icon yeah WB has all the material right there and they chose to do that? idiots
Yea steels cool
I rewatch this video 10x times already. I will be rewatching them forever
Icon has to be one of, if not THE most underrated and underutilized DC character. This is why I don’t get WB trying to make a movie where Clark Kent Superman is black, when Icon is RIGHT HERE and practically begging for his own movie. It’s really a shame tbh. The most we’ve seen of him in recent years I believe were his brief cameos in Young Justice
Been coming back to this breakdown so much I'm hoping for a show or film on Icon one of the toughest DC heros in the league and his story and ability is incredible.
The first time I saw him on Young Justice I jumped up out if my seat! More Milestone!
+Jay Hemp - Oh. They'll be more Milestone to come! Have a good one! 😎
I did too Bro.
He should have a minimum rating of 9 out of 10 in my opinion.
The good ol Milestone days
I understand your rating system now. Good video bro
+kingmoose - 😅 I'm glad my madness is starting to make sense for you now! But... You know that means you might be going mad too! 😂 Nah... Have a good one!
New Sage A 9 would've been better! 😏
I hear you... and 100 other people too! LOL!
Wow that is impressive. Superman confessed that no-one has ever punched him that hard including Darkseid? That is astonishing. I never knew that he was so powerful. I agree with your rating of 8 and it's truly nostalgic.
Loved the write up on this largely unknown Superhero. He (and Rocket) are easily two of my favorites. He is quite a character as is Rocket.
You did a GREAT job.
I found it interesting that as I read their comics he is a registered Republican with rather conservative views. As he interacted with Rocket, though - he changed his views somewhat because of her influence. Rocket - being a liberally-minded 16 year old youth had a profound and positive influence on him and they went back and forth with their views in the Comics. I found their relationship to be more of a Father - Daughter thing than anything else.
You should include that he CAN be damaged / hurt. If I recall, the villain / hero also known as Payback slashed him with his claws and nearly killed him in one of the Icon issues. He and Payback would eventually go on to become friends. Payback was one of the "Bang Babies" that was produced along with the Blood Syndicate and a few others from the Dakotaverse.
I also recall that he was defeated by the Blood Syndicate at least once while he was engaging them. If I recall it was in the issue where Rocket is standing over him trying to protect him.
Icon - during an engagement with Superman - even stated that he was "Physically Superior" to him, if he held back. I am assuming that Icon meant he'd have to fully utilize his Positron Manipulation to enhance his powers to be on par with Superman.
The "naysayers" to Icon would state that he is "TOO OP" to include on the Big Screen. Would LOVE for Warner Brothers / DC to make a Movie about him and Rocket.
I really don't think that the late (and GREAT) Dwayne McDuffie meant for him to be stronger - better than Superman.
Speaking of McDuffie - he would go on to produce / write many episodes of the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited series. He showcased Green Lantern John Stewart in a POSITIVE and POWERFUL light.
Iocn is EASILY Superman's equal. As he should be.
Again - GREAT write up on him and THANK YOU.
If you haven't already - please do a video on Raquel Irving / Rocket.
I'll give him a rating of 10 😁🌟💯💯
Icon was always one of my favorite characters I always thought he was really cool I hope in future Justice League stories he gets more of a role as a team leader
I had no idea who he was until Young Justice and loved him ever since.
found a ICON issue 1 in my local comic store. worth picking it up. first time I knew about Icon I Blind By a superman comic it was the world's collide issue. awesome review
always wanted know more about Icon. killed it with this breakdown
+lavuntecolquitt - Glad that I could fill you in! Have a good one!
i really love this characters guys. He's conservative, a successful black man in real life. I hope one day he will get his own movie.
instead of Black Superman, how about the Icon movie, Icon 2: the Rocket
Slowly introducing static in the second movie
This would be cool
Wow that guy is very powerful
Icon get a an eight. He should have a ten. Not an eight
They should bring him back
Ikr his character is dope
@The Objective Theist he's not a poster boy of superman although they have similar basics of power's don't think you know what cultural appropriation is but I'll educate you on it sometime
@The Objective Theist here I'll give you the short part cultural appropriation is taking a culture using it not paying homage and claiming it as you're own it can't possibly be used in this because icon is or could be a copy of superman but there are plenty of more literal copys of superman seems lile you're calling it cultural appropriation because the character is black which has nothing to do with the term superman does have a fan base but culture is something in you're sould passed down gro. Generation to generation it's in your everyday life i don't see how a character javing similarities can be that
@@jj56067 Techinally, the character isn't black. He took a form a black man.
@@Amazingfilms148 kinda like superman accept he just lolks white
Love Icon's bio/backstory. Wish he would have gotten a longer run.
Wow! I asked for you to do ICON and you did it. Thanks dude!!
+GMONEY1914 Grant - No problem bro! His time had come! 😎
How can you not do a movie on him, crazy
Cook video thanks for sharing. Don't be surprised if he's brought to the silver screen with the success of Marvels Black Panther. DC gotta take their time and do it right. That's plenty in his bio to work with. We live in the world of the "pre prequels! They could give the fans a trilogy!! I enjoyed both versions of Watchmen and I'd never heard of those characters before. I think it's about time they do something new and exciting! Luke Cage comes to mind as I'm writing this. This is a good opportunity for DC to make cinema history.
+Qenaan Creed - I'm with you on this! Maybe DC will play their cards right! They'll have a hit, and my rating for him would instantly shoot to a 10! 😎
Qenaan Creed Chances are John Stewart or Cyborg will get a movie.
Even static shock is way more powerful. Icon isn't exactly an A lister you know
@@NewSage Not sure mainstream audiences wouldn't be confused by the notion of a Superman level character that not only tolerated slavery, and then the Jim Crow era afterward, but participated in it on the losing end. I know I am. Now, I don't know Icon as a character and I'm sure that the creators have written some kind of workaround to this obvious problem, but you have to admit, that is asking for a lot of suspension of disbelief from the audience.
@@ricosuave6898 🤔 I feel you on that. Yeah... A, potential, film's writers would need to work around that! 👍
@@ricosuave6898 rewrite as he didn’t develop the powers until later on. Like in the comics he doesn’t really turn into icon until after a home robbery
I first seen Icon in the Young Justice and he seemed really cool so I wanted to know more
I had never heard of Icon until I stumbled upon this video. What a nevel storyline! I am going to learn more about him. thank you
If Wildstorm is slowly coming back I would love and feel that Milestone should return. Dakota verse deserves it
THANKS SAGE ..LIKETHE SHOW !
+Abe DLS - I'm glad you liked it! And THANK YOU for your support! 😁
Makes me think 🤔 about the Blue Marvel.
Deserved a 10 come on! 😟
this needs to be a cw show
Ra'Mon Jones Icons a conservative so I doubt it
How about HBo since DC is doing projects there
I'd rather see Icon in a movie.
One of my fav heroes
Icon, another underrated powerhouse, glad you covered this one.
Speaking of powerful beings since you got Icon now you gotta get on Blue Marvel!
+PlentyXP - I know right! You know he had to get in the lineup! 😎
😂 sounds like catcher Freeman to me
Lmaoooo
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Thanks for giving the spotlight to Icon. One correction though...he went to Fisk university in the comics which is actually a real HBCU in Tennessee.
He's a beast
He's a badass looks pretty rad
So it kinda of sounds like marvel comics blue marvel and icon are more similar than blue marvel being another superman
Base God True, but he was created waaaay before Blue Marvel.
Blue marvel has anti matter powers, has a blue costume, is leader of the ultimates and I visibly older than icon.
So all black people look alike even in comics?
Im not sensitive. Just know whomever i am exactly talking about. Characters having the same physical attributes doesnt make them the same. Thats imbecile way of thinking.
Blue marvel is mutate. He is generator and reactor of anti matter.
Icon gains abilities from his genetics.
You are dumb.
Val zod and guardian prime are the same to you, because they both dark skin superheroes with capes.
But you are definitely a troll. I posted that comment a year ago. You definitely wanted some attention. Lol. Kids
Is it a tumultuous time for you? Are your parents getting a divorce? Do you need a friend? Seems like it.
I need friends but you commenting on a post i made 2 yrs ago. Foh, troll. Pretty dumb troll at that.
Here after Milestone's return, can't wait!
I love the history of "ICON",,,,,,I hope one day he will be a movie icon! No pon intended💯😂
Awesome video
In minute 4:39, what comic book issue is the 'left side part of the picture' located in?...it has several of the black superheroes characters in one photo...is it a variant? Where can I find that photo?
Why 8? He should be at least a 9!
SuperBenson Life a 10 if you ask me. Hands down.
GMONEY1914 Grant damn right!
yeah sense he gave those other characters a 10. he is everybit on their level & then some.
10
Still waiting for this figure to be made
You should give Icon a 10
Great story! He reminds me of Dad when I was his side-kick, "The Kid". I have a few copies of ICON, but not all of them....yet. Dad was one of those Lone Ranger junkies who actually WATCHED the radio. I wonder if he knew the real Lone Ranger was black.....ah, the wild wild west. He was from KCMO, Mom's mother was born in Wichita. And he married her in the mid 50s when he earned his first Master's degree in Poly Sci. We were both systems analysts.
This guy is so dope!!...good vid man
Let me say this first... I subscribed to your UA-cam channel not too long ago... and I am loving your video synopsis. Videos are concise, informative, and fun to watch, and your vocal tone is nice. Now, as an avid comic book geek myself... I pose a question to you as you say this often depending on the character you reference in your video.
Is it interesting to you that many of these high-level Heroes and Villains have genius-level intellect yet behave in less than genius-level manner? You think being that smart would mean a “smarter” way to handle the situational experience.
Just thinking out loud because DC and Marvel include with many of their beloved characters an intellectual factor of the highest order yet few ask themselves, “Is there a better way to handle this situation without massive destruction and large death toll across the locality they are in?” 😂
Never heard of this hero. Happy to now! He awesome.
Me imaging Jakie Chiles(from Seinfeld) With Superman's powers🤣! Very inspiring thoo😎❤✊🏾! And I thought Earth 23s Superman was a big deal...As a matter of fact; could you do a video on Earth 23 around February? It would be appropriate around that time AND it would be "The Year 20 "23"🤣!
Would love to see him get a movie
But instead we are getting a black superman movie🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
I always hoped this cat would blow up more, his powerset is impressive and his backstory is very cool-nice reach back😉🙌🏾
Icon need his own movie! They're wasting their time with this idea of a black Superman movie. Icon is an infinitely more interesting character.
He was part of the under ground rail road .he gets a 10 . not for his physical strength but for his integrity to do the right thing for the right reason when no one's around. Anyone who fights for freedom of self gets a 10 in my book .
Becasue of what he stands for they won't make a movie out of him . His back story would cause a uprising. Srry folks no movie for icon smh
All that aside he is physically strong as superman. And as old and smart as the Martian manhunter and able to admit waves from his body also did he defend the Justice League during Young Justice the reach chapter 🤔 and also able to hit harder to then darkseid
No Icon can not hit harder than Darkseid.
+KON-EL Superman already said that he did. I trust him over you.
No he said that was the hardest he has ever been punched at the time Darkseid is a literal god and A God > random alien when it comes to strength and power. This here is Darkseid effortlessly slapping Superman aside like he was nothing. photobucket.com/gallery/user/aarons24/media/bWVkaWFJZDo0MzU4OTQ1Nw==/?ref=
KON- EL if supes said it supes said it
Alright fine you want to believe an alien can hit harder than a god be my guest.
He was Blue Marvel before Blue Marvel. He is a alien tho.
I read in some sites that Icon has super senses too, like sight, hearing etc. Are his senses similar to Superman's?
Like, does he have x-ray vision?
I started to read his comic from the 90's but I'm still on the first ten issues.
On the "Icon vs hardware" from 2021 he seemed to listen to her signaling device from "across the world", but I'm not sure kkkkk Are there other examples?
4:38 is that Marvels Black Panther and Storm and Falcon next to D.C.'s ICON and Green Lantern?
Need to have a video on Mr
Terrific.....
We need him in DCEU
So many characters like Icon that DC doesn't use, they could stop making villains for Batman and Superman then just give them to Icon to develop the character instead
Hey new sage can you tell me whom Leonard Willams is please Im getting mixed stories?
I can see Michael Jai White playing Icon. I remember seeing him in *Young Justice.*
Give them animated series.
Nice vid, I wish DC could, or would use him more I'd like to see him and Martian Manhunter together. Say @2:36 who are those guys him and John Stewart are fightning? I've never see that book before.
Never knew of thiz guy...great job. Thank you!
+Vash The Rashid - Glad to shine some light on another obscure character! I appreciate you, bro! 👍
Dear new sage could you do more Mk characters like Quan chi your videos are awesome could please
Wait, what was that about Green Lanterns? That shouldn't be a throwaway line! Now I've got to look this up!
Do Blue Marvel, he curb stomps just about any powerhouse you can list... Including The Sentry
Kavahn Wise He cant alter reality or bring people back to life ..so maybe physicality in one story but im sure Sentry full on ..in other stories went one on one with Galactus and World Breaker Hulk..it depends on the writers and what powers they choose to use in a story
almost broke sentrys jaw
How many times has sentry displayed those abilities? I look at those feats the same as I look at superman creating mini clones of himself... And even so, sentry couldn't handle anti man, he can't alter reality without his serum, and he got one hit ko'ed when blue marvel "let loose"
I get what you mean about writers and how they may choose to "nerf or buff " characters based on the in comic situation, but blue marvel demolished King Hyperion while Sentry folded like clean clothes.
Kavahn Wise I can guarantee That Blue Marvel wont take down World Breaker Hulk ..no one from earth can using physical force alone beat World Breaker Hulk..Sentry was the only one who stopped him but couldnt beat him they both passed out ..secondly Sentry doesnt need a serum he took it years ago only 1 time needed...he can alter reality friend ..think about it..change what happens he can win lose he destroy or bring back to life. .just by thinking it..of course he might not be the strongest muscle wise but he has way more powers than just muscle.. hes the most powerful Marvel has next to Galactus and Hulk..way more various powers than Blue Marvels energy and strength...Blue Marvel needed the Whole Ultimates team to to fight Galactus..Sentry fought Galactus alone..it depends on the writers..bud..not the hero and you go by consistency. .Sentry..has won fights and destroyed cities like Asgard by himself and even brought people back to life even himself. .Blue Marvel won that fight because thats what writers wanted ..until Sentry goes and beats everyone down in another story..again
Finally another melaninated superhero.
You remember recently when everyone was going crazy cause dc was trying to make Superman black. My first thought was Icon is essentially your black Superman. Just give him a movie instead of trying to black wash Superman.
great vdeo
Hey can you do the rippaverse their new and unknown thx
4:32 That's a dope ass Icon costume.
Icon needs way more exposure! So does Static!
Maybe DC will start using their whole roster. There's too many "Jordans" on the bench! LOL!
@@NewSage its because milestone isn't fully dc yet.
Who do you think would win in a battle between Icon and Blue Marvel?
Blue Marvel
Icon