Something comes to mind a quote that I hold dearly to my heart, was someone on one of asmongold's dark souls 3 streams. "The fact that you made it this far and still dont understand what you're doing wrong is exactly why you dont deserve to win." Scalding. Damn.
But that’s the point. Even at like ARR release the most difficult content wasn’t difficult. So like OBVIOUSLY people who have been playing for years knowing how hard the game is are confused lol. And back then, players were more inclined to be friendly and actually explain mechanics if you didn’t understand something. Now, ironically when the game is its most difficult, players are LESS inclined to help explain mechanics. Especially to healers, because if the healer dies 60% of the time you don’t need them anyways. So why reset and at that point why even explain the mechanic to them because the boss is already dead.
@paradigmshift470 You could write 10 more paragraphs and it won't change how obvious the patterns are, and the fact they demo and train you at the beginning of each encounter.
@@paradigmshift470 If someone have been playing since ARR on the most difficult content and wouldn't understand how EASY the fight in Dawntrail are, the should stop everything
@@paradigmshift470 "Even at ARR release the most difficult content wasn't difficult" isn't a line that takes into account what was going on in 2013. The fights themselves weren't mechanically complex but latency was far higher, your stats were far lower and the game overall just wasn't as friendly to you - the player. There's a waterfall's worth of QoL that's been added to the game since 2013 that so many people take for granted or just wouldn't believe wasn't in the game when it relaunched (like something as simple as keeping your food buff when you died or the targeting ring around a mob indicating its facing or positional requirements). Attack range was far lower, magical dps didn't track enemies with spells (if you were facing a mob, and it went left of you, it broke LoS so you lost the cast), focus targeting wasn't in the game, combo actions were much shorter to complete, ranged attacks broke all combo actions - ARR was just a very, very different game overall that I don't even think the majority of the playerbase existing today would even be able to clear past Haukke Manor effectively.
Final Fantasy XIV casual players are the kinds of people who will cross into moving traffic because they didn't see an orange line marker on the floor.
Omg! Imagine fighting a weakened version of a boss prior with a lot of mechanics that were shown to you in other boss fights. OMG WHAT!? IVE NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE
I don’t know how people will say that as if it’s meant to validate their point. It literally just means that they’re so bad that despite playing the game for this long (which I’m sure is a lie) they still don’t know how to deal with the most basic mechanics. Which is so bad that it almost wraps around to being impressive.
i'm a 1.0 player, the problem is we are old and some are very old, you cant teach an old dog new tricks, some are just clickers and refuse to learn anything. also how do you know its a 1.0 player? don't worry they will tell you. we like to think we are special too. I have the tattoo, i saw someone standing near limsa marketboard with it showing the other day when i went to buy something on their server, the next day i saw them again, so just for fun i showed mine and stood next to them, they walked away without saying anything, some do not like others with the tattoo because they love to feel special.
I can understand people being this bad at the game and that's fine. My dad was never a gamer and decided to get into minecraft at a late age since he got bored watching tv shows and movies all the time and the way he moved and did things made me laugh because he was so new to everything but he kept trying and learning and got frustrated at times but never decided to complain about how difficult things were online. But to the casuals who have an issue putting effort into something that REQUIRES effort, just stop. Go be a potato elsewhere
have seen a healer rescue people out of honey b lovely towers. yknow, the towers with the same ground markers we've been seeing since nabriales. yeah...
@@biggrayalien4791 "you have 2.5 seconds to click" isnt the whole issue, you really dont understand the problem it seems. when clicking an ability, your eyes are on the curser and not on the boss which is distracting, when you are clicking, you can't use the mouse to move at the same time. having to click an ability is always a handicap, no matter how you twist it. the problem is the most apparent when you have to also aim the ability with the mouse after clicking it.
Now that I’ve gotten used to the way the game forecasts mechanics, they’ve become a lot more enjoyable. Going back to early content with a party that occasionally has some newer people is when you realize which ones had some weird, silent mechanics they’ve thankfully gotten better at showing. “At this part of the fight, everyone split up or we all instantly die. Nothing indicates this will happen.”
@@JRZTT Yes but let's be real, casual content doesn't require you to press buttons. I didn't need to keybind until I tried hard content and man... My lazy brain wasn't happy about that. I can't imagine someone THAT casual to not click
@@joshkary5040It doesn't really matter if you think its bad or not though. If they are able to perform well and clear savages by clicking then who cares.
Me too. I just wish they scaled the difficulty better so players would feel a little more prepared. This is a pretty big step up and YET hardcore mmo people probably still find it too easy.
@@paradigmshift470I mean, solo duties in the campaign have normal, easy, and very easy mode if you fail it once on normal. Trials are not even that hard, first time boss does a telegraphed aoe in battle, you get an indicator for the whole windup, after that you gotta pay attention. Dungeon bosses are the same way, you get one learning / refresher version of the attack, then you gotta put it in practice.
@@ValbrandrLeonhardt Im still not very far in the MsQ as I just haven't been able to play to much recently. But best the first trial last night. It actually caught me off guard seeing the some AOE markers actually disappear. Making you see need to actually a little more attention. Took two wipes. But we still learned it. And I thoroughly enjoyed it.
@@ValbrandrLeonhardt tbh I think being able to play solo stuff on easy is a part of the issue 😂 let’s let players handicap themselves so they’re even LESS prepared for the difficulty spike. The reason why I never play anything on an easier mode, because I know it’ll be even more difficult in the real thing. I just think the game didn’t do the best job preparing players for the difficulty spike. But like all of that said, the msq stuff isn’t really THAT hard. You might just actually have to try a few times or practice.
One of these forum people actually shared a clip and asked what they did wrong. They didnt have ctrl, shift etc shortcuts set up only 1234 etc and used the mouse to click on almost all of their actions and had done so since arr.
@@NatiiixLP As casual, I play very easy when I fail in duty that I have to control other people and not my character. Like Wuk Lamat in certain duty. Preferred playing on normal, but I don't wanna bother playing character I don't normally use. :P
The crazy thing is that the coiled strike attack, and like most of these attacks iirc, are shown ro you in q previous fight with the real person. Yet i can truly believe someone would've still fucked up attacks they've seen before.
I'm a huge casual. I simply can't handle savage and can do at best one EX every few years and it tends to be one of the easiest ones; I tend to die at least a couple times to new trials and raids, and even dungeons when there's novel mechanics, and will keep dying every now and then because I get distracted easily. I also genuinely don't know how you can die to MSQ solo instances. Like I find them super fun, but I haven't once died to them
If you look closely the blades show a fading spinning motion, both in the same circular direction, indicating that this is the way his blades will spin. Here in the video for examples anti-clockwise. I believe he used the same already in the solo duty in the palace before this.
the type of casual this video is making fun of wouldn't even know what you are talking about. this is something that basically would only bug casual ex/savage raiders. like the average player is so bad even knowing this is something to have an opinion on probably puts you in the top 30 percent of players.
That ain't a casual. That's a turbo casual. Casuals may not spend as much time in the game but they can at least understand aoes. 💀 Your Limsa storebought legend player on the other hand...
I'm casual, but I'm not that bad :P maybe if it was 1st time doing it or the room wide aoe that you need to find safe spot. The latter is my worst weakness. Many time I just can't find safe spot in time. XD
@@pyro5159 Git gud scrub just because you are a wage cuck and you made a kid something that takes bare minimum and anyone can do, doesn't excuse you from being bad at this game lmao
it specifies "on the forum", its poking fun at people that go explicitly out of their way to complain on the forums that the game is hard, and those people usually forget to actually play the game (which happens if you take long breaks) but blame it on the game itself instead of their inability to play the game for a little while, or straight up refusing to understand mechanics
@ko8vy it's still funny. People always try to say how nice and welcoming the XIV Community is, when in reality, it probably has the biggest assholes out there, even more then in WoW and other MMOs. One person cries somewhere? Make fun of them! Be assholes to them! Woop Woop. Disgusting 😂
People getting made fun of? Gasp this is unheard of only ffxiv community can be this toxic to make jokes out of its community. Other mmos definitely don't do this , ff community has gone downhill time to quit the game
This isn't a regular casual. This is most likely someone playing on a regular player's account for a day. There's no way he stood in those AOEs without knowing what was going on happen. There's just no way. . . 😦🫢
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Strategically positioning yourself to get hit by all four circle aoes
I remember when I did that to dodge the Ifrit circles back in ARR, because there's a 2-3 pixel gap between them all.
required by p3s and m3s
Keeping your GCD rolling? Casuals on the forums would never.
@@auaria HOW DARE YOU
😂
Considering they're almost all cure bots, I'd be surprised to see any damage buttons being pressed at all, even in solo content
@@GrammerPancreas they are all glarebots with cure 1 spam
Something comes to mind a quote that I hold dearly to my heart, was someone on one of asmongold's dark souls 3 streams.
"The fact that you made it this far and still dont understand what you're doing wrong is exactly why you dont deserve to win."
Scalding. Damn.
I've never seen someone play through the souls games so comprehensively and yet understand so little about how to actually play the game
Pretty sure he's doing the exact same thing this video does, just maybe slightly less obvious.
forgot to say that you've been playing the game for 20 years
But that’s the point. Even at like ARR release the most difficult content wasn’t difficult. So like OBVIOUSLY people who have been playing for years knowing how hard the game is are confused lol.
And back then, players were more inclined to be friendly and actually explain mechanics if you didn’t understand something.
Now, ironically when the game is its most difficult, players are LESS inclined to help explain mechanics. Especially to healers, because if the healer dies 60% of the time you don’t need them anyways. So why reset and at that point why even explain the mechanic to them because the boss is already dead.
@paradigmshift470 You could write 10 more paragraphs and it won't change how obvious the patterns are, and the fact they demo and train you at the beginning of each encounter.
@@paradigmshift470 If someone have been playing since ARR on the most difficult content and wouldn't understand how EASY the fight in Dawntrail are, the should stop everything
@@paradigmshift4702nd coil when it was current content is harder then the current raids.
@@paradigmshift470 "Even at ARR release the most difficult content wasn't difficult" isn't a line that takes into account what was going on in 2013. The fights themselves weren't mechanically complex but latency was far higher, your stats were far lower and the game overall just wasn't as friendly to you - the player. There's a waterfall's worth of QoL that's been added to the game since 2013 that so many people take for granted or just wouldn't believe wasn't in the game when it relaunched (like something as simple as keeping your food buff when you died or the targeting ring around a mob indicating its facing or positional requirements).
Attack range was far lower, magical dps didn't track enemies with spells (if you were facing a mob, and it went left of you, it broke LoS so you lost the cast), focus targeting wasn't in the game, combo actions were much shorter to complete, ranged attacks broke all combo actions - ARR was just a very, very different game overall that I don't even think the majority of the playerbase existing today would even be able to clear past Haukke Manor effectively.
Final Fantasy XIV casual players are the kinds of people who will cross into moving traffic because they didn't see an orange line marker on the floor.
Holy shit bro you got me in stitches xD
@@forcebane funniest thing since SNL OMGG img dying
You know developers did not intent for you to fail when you have to get hit by five things back to back before losing.
Omg! Imagine fighting a weakened version of a boss prior with a lot of mechanics that were shown to you in other boss fights. OMG WHAT!? IVE NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE
The worst part is that this is the 5th (6th if you think about it) expansion. TT
I love how you accurately positioned yourself to be hit by 4 circles at once
I love it when people try to defend themseleves by saying that they played the game since 1.0 lol
I don’t know how people will say that as if it’s meant to validate their point. It literally just means that they’re so bad that despite playing the game for this long (which I’m sure is a lie) they still don’t know how to deal with the most basic mechanics. Which is so bad that it almost wraps around to being impressive.
i'm a 1.0 player, the problem is we are old and some are very old, you cant teach an old dog new tricks, some are just clickers and refuse to learn anything.
also how do you know its a 1.0 player? don't worry they will tell you. we like to think we are special too.
I have the tattoo, i saw someone standing near limsa marketboard with it showing the other day when i went to buy something on their server, the next day i saw them again, so just for fun i showed mine and stood next to them, they walked away without saying anything, some do not like others with the tattoo because they love to feel special.
FFXIV casuals the kind of ppl to walk upstairs in horror movies
*forum casuals.
90% of the other casuals do at least know how to do basic mechanics that have been shown to them before.
Yes yes, I know, it’s a joke.
im pressing the A button what more do these games want from us??!!
ugh. GUY please stop ripping footage off my stream without giving credit. I am a tier 1 EndWalker Raider (non-ex), This fight was RIDICULOUSLY hard!
the camera movement is what sells it
These forum posters genuinely make LowTierGod look like a 5-time EVO Champion... and he's still ineligible to compete there.
I can understand people being this bad at the game and that's fine. My dad was never a gamer and decided to get into minecraft at a late age since he got bored watching tv shows and movies all the time and the way he moved and did things made me laugh because he was so new to everything but he kept trying and learning and got frustrated at times but never decided to complain about how difficult things were online. But to the casuals who have an issue putting effort into something that REQUIRES effort, just stop. Go be a potato elsewhere
have seen a healer rescue people out of honey b lovely towers. yknow, the towers with the same ground markers we've been seeing since nabriales. yeah...
Are you sure thats not just straight griefing
@@scorpiowarrior7841 she asked about it on the SECOND wipe and stopled doing it after having it explained to her. it was not griefing 💀
@@daBunky oh dear god
@@daBunky Dont tell me she's been doing that since ARR...
@@JohnnyShagbot i hOPE NOT!!! this was a random in a weekly normal clear, so luckily im never playing with them again
Game too hard
Took me 17 hours 34 minutes to beat solo instance
🥺
I can't fathom casuals being this far into the story and still not having a fkn clue, let alone ability to learn, mechs.
Don't underestimate the power of being carried by others (and for solo content there's always the easy difficulty).
If you want to be even more acurate, you must click your abilities instead of using hotkeys.
I use keys and click I don't have any other way unless I get one of those mouses with the numbers on it and yet I still beat the game already lol
@@PrincessofKeys when you say, you "beat the game" what does this mean in FFXIV? You cleared savage week one and all ultimates?
@@arohk4415 There are Ultimate clickers, clicking isn't the issue. You have 2.5 seconds to click the next button, it's not hard to play as a clicker.
@@biggrayalien4791 "you have 2.5 seconds to click" isnt the whole issue, you really dont understand the problem it seems.
when clicking an ability, your eyes are on the curser and not on the boss which is distracting, when you are clicking, you can't use the mouse to move at the same time.
having to click an ability is always a handicap, no matter how you twist it.
the problem is the most apparent when you have to also aim the ability with the mouse after clicking it.
@@arohk4415 I don't have any of those problems and I mix clicking with hotkeys my guy.
It's all fun and games until these dogs go into duty finder and AFK "in protest".
Votekick (afk) is an option in those scenarios.
@@shawnscouten5184 and report to GMs for lethargic play
"mentor btw" moment
HAHAAHAH
*TOO MUCH MECHANICS HOW COULD I POSSIBLY DO THIS I HATE THIS GAME YOSHIP WHY DID YOU MAKE MY GAME BAD*
Now that I’ve gotten used to the way the game forecasts mechanics, they’ve become a lot more enjoyable. Going back to early content with a party that occasionally has some newer people is when you realize which ones had some weird, silent mechanics they’ve thankfully gotten better at showing.
“At this part of the fight, everyone split up or we all instantly die. Nothing indicates this will happen.”
I never knew that after retiring from savage and mythic raiding that people lose all of their ability to spot the most obvious of tells.
These are the casuals that Take pride on painstakingly beating minecraft on peaceful/Creative mode.
I mean beating Minecraft on peaceful is actually pretty impressive considering that's impossible without exploits
Why are you pressing buttons? People on forums are obviously clicking the icons!
in all seriousness, I saw many who was clicker and clear all savage, so clicking icon is not that bad :P
@@JRZTT Yes but let's be real, casual content doesn't require you to press buttons. I didn't need to keybind until I tried hard content and man... My lazy brain wasn't happy about that. I can't imagine someone THAT casual to not click
@@JRZTTjust because you can do something with clicking does not make clicking less bad lol
@@joshkary5040It doesn't really matter if you think its bad or not though. If they are able to perform well and clear savages by clicking then who cares.
@@HowlingDoom because if they didn’t click they’d perform better. That’s why anyone would care lmao
Surviving 4 circle aoes at once after eating 2 other mechanics on a healer is wild. But the game is too hard now.
come now the geniuses on the forums couldn't possibly figure out how to apply eukrasian dosis
I'm glad to see stuff get a bit harder tbh
Me too. I just wish they scaled the difficulty better so players would feel a little more prepared. This is a pretty big step up and YET hardcore mmo people probably still find it too easy.
@@paradigmshift470I mean, solo duties in the campaign have normal, easy, and very easy mode if you fail it once on normal. Trials are not even that hard, first time boss does a telegraphed aoe in battle, you get an indicator for the whole windup, after that you gotta pay attention.
Dungeon bosses are the same way, you get one learning / refresher version of the attack, then you gotta put it in practice.
@@ValbrandrLeonhardt
Im still not very far in the MsQ as I just haven't been able to play to much recently.
But best the first trial last night. It actually caught me off guard seeing the some AOE markers actually disappear. Making you see need to actually a little more attention.
Took two wipes. But we still learned it. And I thoroughly enjoyed it.
@@ValbrandrLeonhardt tbh I think being able to play solo stuff on easy is a part of the issue 😂 let’s let players handicap themselves so they’re even LESS prepared for the difficulty spike.
The reason why I never play anything on an easier mode, because I know it’ll be even more difficult in the real thing.
I just think the game didn’t do the best job preparing players for the difficulty spike. But like all of that said, the msq stuff isn’t really THAT hard.
You might just actually have to try a few times or practice.
If you've cleared a single on-content EX in your life, MSQ is still dozens of times easier. It's a 40 hour snooze fest to unlock 6 good fights
thats a lot of dosis going off
omgogmogmog da gaem 2 hard i swaer, I take one step and then again it was so hard to do the mario
How do people play through all of ARR to DT and not learn how to play the game. I dont understand these turbo casuals
One of these forum people actually shared a clip and asked what they did wrong.
They didnt have ctrl, shift etc shortcuts set up only 1234 etc and used the mouse to click on almost all of their actions and had done so since arr.
"Easy Mode is now selectable."
Not just easy, but also "Very Easy"
@@NatiiixLP As casual, I play very easy when I fail in duty that I have to control other people and not my character. Like Wuk Lamat in certain duty. Preferred playing on normal, but I don't wanna bother playing character I don't normally use. :P
@@JRZTT Uh... It's 4 buttons and a limit break?
@@RunePlaysGamesso 3 buttons more then the average healer dps?
@@RunePlaysGames Yeah but I don't wanna play them :P I preferred range/caster/healer but most of the time you were force to melee :P
The crazy thing is that the coiled strike attack, and like most of these attacks iirc, are shown ro you in q previous fight with the real person. Yet i can truly believe someone would've still fucked up attacks they've seen before.
You forgot to spam jumping and spam heal till MP die out. Yes yes
A a casual player I hate all this! These mega whining casuals are giving us normal casuals a bad name.
I can understand the blade thing, because Eden: Furor has this mechanic, and you resolved it correctly in that instance.
I'm a huge casual. I simply can't handle savage and can do at best one EX every few years and it tends to be one of the easiest ones; I tend to die at least a couple times to new trials and raids, and even dungeons when there's novel mechanics, and will keep dying every now and then because I get distracted easily.
I also genuinely don't know how you can die to MSQ solo instances. Like I find them super fun, but I haven't once died to them
Wuk Lamat be like:
Oh, did i find the wrong person?
Watched this after work and just got really dizzy with the camera movements lmao
XDDDDDDDD
I LOVE THE "WHAT'S HAPPENING HUH" WHEN YOU DELIBERATELY STAND IN 4 STACKED AOE
That panic at mousing over your own buffs killed me
pressing your DPS button as a healer??????
nah man
that's not what a casual in the forums does
The fact you survived 4 AOE hits is abysmal in itself lmao.
In my defense I still don’t know what those blade indicators meant
If you look closely the blades show a fading spinning motion, both in the same circular direction, indicating that this is the way his blades will spin. Here in the video for examples anti-clockwise. I believe he used the same already in the solo duty in the palace before this.
@@Raziel_Zero You just stand behind the dull edge of the blade lmao, the sharp part is dangerous
Essentially a swipe animation. You can see the ghosting of the motion it's going to do. Kinda like a slow mo telegraph of a swipe attack.
Does it even really matter? Follow the NPCs lol.
You probably saw that mechanic before when you fight Guluul Ja Ja in the solo instance duel.
They make other casuals look bad that actually know how to play the gams. It's not even hard to do if you learn the mechanics right.
You did everything right but still died? Must be lag
When I saw this I thought you'd find a way to somehow die at the heal check you literally don't participate in 😂
I'm a casual and I never jerk my screen around like that LOL
And then they complain about buff alignment, se makes every buff 2 min and 20s long, and they still can't do it
the type of casual this video is making fun of wouldn't even know what you are talking about. this is something that basically would only bug casual ex/savage raiders. like the average player is so bad even knowing this is something to have an opinion on probably puts you in the top 30 percent of players.
I cant believe the game didnt just win itself for you. Absolute garbage 0/10 experience.
Using your mouse for turning and your keyboard for using abilities is backwards.
Did he even managed to avoid one thing? XD
That ain't a casual. That's a turbo casual. Casuals may not spend as much time in the game but they can at least understand aoes. 💀
Your Limsa storebought legend player on the other hand...
Storebought legend player had me laughing haha
Yeah these turbo casuals are making us normal casuals look bad.
I was half expecting you to icarus to someone to get hit by the 3rd aoe.
This is unironically how most players play.
I can't stop laughing at this
Bro... Bro thats not a casual thats a damn leaf player
no joke i almost never see a sprout fumble every 2 seconds.
its the flowers that im afraid of
You missed the part where they don't know how to tilt the camera up and constantly look at their feet.
(it's Ctrl+↑/Ctrl+↓)
that's wowbrain. wow teaches them to constantly look at their feet, and not at anything going on anywhere else in the arena
too unrealistic a healer actually dpsing
If you died like 2 or 3 times it enables easy mode for solo instances. Problem already solved. :)
This is so accurate
a sensible chuckle
God your camera movement was giving me motion sickness lmao
I’m glad casuals aren’t actually like this
So accurate 😂😂
You had to actively make an effort to beef it, even, deliberately maximizing all the damage you took...
Too much button pressing to be casual.
Game became too hard, please get back to cutscenes and boring texts, thanks, I don't want to actually play my game
gotta click all ur gcds
I'm casual, but I'm not that bad :P maybe if it was 1st time doing it or the room wide aoe that you need to find safe spot. The latter is my worst weakness. Many time I just can't find safe spot in time. XD
No self kardia, dislike.. hihihi
True
😂
Wuk lmfao
By casual you mean someone with a full time job and possibly a kid right? Nobody plays like this except people who want to over exaggerate
Git gud scrub
@Pancombine18 this isn't Elden Ring
@@pyro5159 Git gud scrub just because you are a wage cuck and you made a kid something that takes bare minimum and anyone can do, doesn't excuse you from being bad at this game lmao
it specifies "on the forum", its poking fun at people that go explicitly out of their way to complain on the forums that the game is hard, and those people usually forget to actually play the game (which happens if you take long breaks) but blame it on the game itself instead of their inability to play the game for a little while, or straight up refusing to understand mechanics
@@DinoGoesRaawrr Just tell him git gud lmao guy thinks because he is a wage cuck he is entitled to do bare minimum.
XIV Community is so nice and welcoming!
Also XIV Community:
@ko8vy No, You don't pay my sub!
@ko8vy it's still funny. People always try to say how nice and welcoming the XIV Community is, when in reality, it probably has the biggest assholes out there, even more then in WoW and other MMOs. One person cries somewhere? Make fun of them! Be assholes to them! Woop Woop. Disgusting 😂
@@Electric_Doodie Not in reality it sounds like a personal issue especially taken offense to a video like this can we really take your word for it?
People getting made fun of? Gasp this is unheard of only ffxiv community can be this toxic to make jokes out of its community.
Other mmos definitely don't do this , ff community has gone downhill time to quit the game
@@Ducksquare do you like your own comments?
Ready for more dumbification of the game
This isn't a regular casual. This is most likely someone playing on a regular player's account for a day. There's no way he stood in those AOEs without knowing what was going on happen. There's just no way. . . 😦🫢
The video is a joke ~ the guy is just mocking the forums casual on this game