Goodbye Aprilia Tuareg - Hello KTM…
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- #Tuareg #KTM #AdventureR
It didn’t work out with my Aprilia Tuareg 660, so I’ve bought a different bike...what am I thinking?
Say hello to my KTM 790 Adventure R - It’s fun, quick and capable but is it reliable?
Here are a few things I like and don't like about the Austrian orange pumpkin...
Big shout out to Newcastle Motorcycles!
Oh, and do Austrians yodel? Cheers for watching :D
#Motoeuro
What happened with the Tuareg?
And so he returns! Helmet and paint roller pointing in the right direction again, but out one Tuareg. I do hope you will tell us (as a fellow ex-Tuareg owner) what happened there.
Anyway, good to see you back.
Cheers :D Just can’t go into any detail just now, hopefully I can expand in the future.
I agree with the plentiful other comments - I'll be waiting to hear what happened with the Tuareg? It is still on my shopping list (and KTM is not), but I detoured into MG V85tt which was sitting used on a dealer's floor looking too pretty to pass when I went to put a deposit on the Aprilia ;-)
WOW never thought you would resort to a ktm , more high to maintain than Italian bikes these days , I studied the Aprilia and felt that there would be issues once starting to scatch below the surface
I wish you well - maybe you should consider to fit a smaller (1 tooth less) front sprocket, that wirked wonders on my 890 Adv R riding at lower revs…
By the way - can strongly recommend the RebelX Kit to get rid of that stupid stock windscreen… It is not for free, in fact it‘s quite expensive, but well worth it…
Did I miss something? What happened to the Aprilia?
Should we have not been told!??
It was probably sold under agreement that there will be no press release on what actually happened…😝😝
Let’s just say I would have waited a bit longer for a T7 to present itself rather than go with the Austrian.
Probably their most reliable machine is the Indian Bajaj 390.
All the rest are still with too many unresolved issues KTM expects their customers to solve for themselves…
Keep on reporting Ol’ Chap 🍻🍻
Come on you have to tell us why you sold the Tuareg
I own both bikes, nothin wrong with the Tuareg at all. Prob better brakes actually. It’s less horsepower but also a little lighter. They put the cat on front of engine which was stupid . It makes a lot of heat.
You’ve missed nothing! The Tuareg went the distance some time ago - Sadly, can’t go into detail just yet…. Thanks for watching!
As a Tuareg owner I do really wish you had gotten a bit into what happened w/ the Aprilia. Did I miss a video???!
Yeah very frustrating he didn't expound on that, hopefully he will but seems to upload every couple of months so who knows.
Yeah, sorry guys I can’t go into detail just now :(
@@Motoeuro Smells like lawsuits. All the best buddy ;)
I haven't actually bought my Tuareg yet so I'll be watching for an update but it sounds a little like catastrophic failure?
Telling us what happened isn’t going into details🤦🏻♂️ It’s a simple as saying it’s been wrecked or it’s a broke/warranty issue
5 months later, ready to reveal why the Aprilia went bye bye?
No more Tuareg oh dear what a shame. I hope it's a decent issue you had, you lot in the UK do like a good moan.
Mine has been super fun to ride esp. after I modified it a bit here and there. I had the normal issue with the "oil leak from the weep hole" (of which I fixed myself - bought a new cover 30min job to change) just after 200kms, not to worry she's Italian after all. All good since then, hitting 10k kms shortly.
Lots of luck on your new, on your new, on your wtf? 😉
Why are you hush hush on why the Aprilia is gone?
Again. What happened with the Tuareg. WTF....
So sorry I cant go into detail just yet. Cheers!
What on earth did not work out with the Tuareg??!! We new owners induced by your information deserve an explanation...
When you’re done changing motorcycles you’ll end up at the Africa Twin 😉😊 greatings from Holland
Ha ha! Don't joke...... It's might happen in the end.....!
Any estimate on when we might hear the fate of the Aprilia?
NO! You don't get off that easy. WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE TUAREG?
Hey, sadly, I can’t go into detail just yet…. but thanks for watching!
May we have the nitty gritty details of the divorce please? Who was unfaithful, who was the drinker, who is the other one, who is keeping the shed and the kids?
Unfaithful drinker? … guilty as charged! So sorry I can’t go into detail just yet. Cheers!
Damn... this is getting more interesting than a season of Desperate Housewives (not that I watch that show)@@Motoeuro
Austrians only yodel when stopped at a red light on a KTM with a 30" inseam.
Not a fan on the T7, super basic and doesn't do anything better. You'd have gotten another divorce but quicker than the Aprilla
Not enough power for road use (as my only bike). The KTM is soo much fun. Keep the KTM simple; don't go for the extras, with the added bonus in that the bike will cost less.
Biggest piece of tech advise for this bike. Get the Twin Air from air filter and seal around the edges with grease for this bike. These air box on these suck dust BADLY with the stock filter. Even if you don’t plan on ever going off road I’d still do it.
Great tip, thanks for this :D
I was sure you’d see the light and opt for the 690. New year, new video, new bike in 2024? 🤔
Good luck with the 790 - just don’t drop it 🛳️
Ha ha!!! It'll go over soon enough! Cheers :D
after 15,000 miles and plenty of 'throwing it down the hill' I finally broke it , I popped an indicator, scratches and scrapes are just battle scars.
I’m dying to know what happened with the Tuareg !
Very interesting development ! From a CRF to a Tuareg and now a KTM ... quite differen bikes. I went from a Transalp 600 to a NX250 plus a KTM990 Adv ...
Hope you will at some point (be able to) share the story behind the Tuareg.
He’ll be complaining about the KTM in a couple of months
Great to see you back on two wheels, mate!
I also recently moved from my beloved 701 Enduro to KTM 890 Adventure R and, besides the weight, I love it! So I am looking forward to seeing your new adventures with KTM 😊
But the the Tuareg situation seems to be quite mysterious, isn't it?...
These things happen I guess, but sadly I can’t go into any detail just now. Enjoy your 890 ADV, so far the 790 is a load of fun just a little heavy! Cheers for watching!
You want some balls to buy one,I went from a five bedroom house to a one bedroom flat to pay for the service😂
Feel your pain.
I would keep the Aprilia between those 2. I really like KTMs, but there are well documented camshaft wearing issues with 790. I don't mind dealing with minor ssues, as long the bike fits my needs, but something like the camshaft is not a minor issue
Indeed a £3k issue…
I looked at both aprilia and ktm. Landed on a Guzzi V85TT and drove 12 hrs to get it
Beauty! Nice one!
Have a Tuareg 660, and service where I live is top, no problems here.... bikes depend a lot on the service you have available... ktm is top here also..... but brands like honda have cero service... so opinions depends on where you live
Still hope that you Will give us your Tuareg feedback ! Want to buy one, but now its suspended!
Great! Love my 890 - the low C of G from the low petrol tanks makes it so manoeuvrable.
Well you didn't swap Tuareg fpr 790 cause of reliability 😂 so i guess either they didn't want to sponsor or you got better deal with ktm, all legit reasons but don't lwt it in the air as if tuareg ended being a bad bike...
Heavy? How is the 890 heavier than any other middle weight adv? Maybe a few pounds, but nothing significant…. Unless you are just talking feel?
Love the "idea" of a KTM myself but never been brave enough, hope it all works out for you. Can you pick it up on your own?????????? Cheers, Mike.
I bet it is easier to lift than a Touareg. Low center of gravity and it does not drop to the same angle because it is wide at the bottom. Similar to a GS which os one of the easiest bikes adventure to lift from the ground.
I'll find out soon enough! Cheers :D
good luck with this bike, they’re subject to an epidemic of camshaft and journals failure, it’s a shit show, and you just bought into it…
Shortcut.... From all this long and tedious video, it turns out that you have to go back to the divorced woman
I think you probably will yodel after a few months on that. I do not understand, I thought you said in the past something about "picking heavy bikes!" Ah well your sense of humour will compensate for it all. And no doubt we will appreciate the humour in the moment. Haddaway man it'll be alreet. But YAMAHA .
What could go wrong? Err....... Thanks for watching!
Should I sell my Tuareg now and go for KTM? :) It's still on a warranty.
Not
Hi Graham,
Stop butterflying round different manufacturers and get a T7.
You won’t regret it.
You remember me sharing the photos of my 790 camshaft?
😳
Very best wishes from Wharfedale
😁👍🏻
5kg different in weight to the 660 and similar if not lower seat height. So why make it sound as such a negative?
You doing always following heart, cheers and god bless you.
whats with the secret on the tuareg?
So sorry I cant go into detail just yet. Cheers!
Recommend you instal a good skid plate and fenders to protect those saddle tanks, they do break with side impacts. And also, get some good sturdy hand guards and a set of auxiliary lights, colapsible mirrors and bigger foot pegs.
Ive recently bought, a new 2023 KTM 790 adventure, 3k in, and so far (🤞), no issues...............yet!
Would love to know the reason why the Aprilia is no longer with you?! 🤔
Nice!!! So sorry I cant go into detail just yet.
@@Motoeuro no worries, guessed as much.
I bought a new T7 and sold it months later at a big loss. I just bought a cb125 and a vstrom 250. Its all the same wind as they say
Your Tuareg video had me thinking that direction, momentarily. I'm Glad I went with the KTM 890... several thousand miles now with no issues. Hopefully you'll be a liberty to share your Tuareg story someday.
Well...guess you do not intend to ride all the way into the backlands of Russia like a certain someone who did this with a bike he basically trusted his life to (yes, I do speak of Motorcycle Adventures and his already legendary T7). If you stay in civilized Britain, you should be good.
People have ridden all kinds of bikes to Magadan.
To be honest I was seriously considering the Aprilia but then I started to see some less than favourable reviews, shame as it looked to be a fantastic machine. Anyway I pick up my new 300 Rally this Saturday. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Perfect bike! Enjoy it :D Cheers!
Missed your ironic sarcasm - glad to see you back on the ‘Tube’.
You will learn the hard way and finally get a T7, haha. Good luck!
T7 os one of the heaviest bikes to lift from the ground.
@@motolover5697 No bike is perfect.
@@motolover5697 I use my t7 as weight for deadlifts in my legs days xD
try it on a steep hill or in mud! Everyone can lift a bike in his garage.@@rushiiiop
Correct.@@SamiNami
Interesting that you bought the older model. While the newer model is of course more expensive, it's a decent improvement since it's basically a sleeved down 2023 890 adventure. The reliability isn't as bad as it seems, hardly any show stopping issues even without the tech it will still run. Most of the issues are small niggles that can be sorted at home. As for vibrations, I have an 890, there are defiantly vibrations starting at 4,000 rpm onwards. Pretty easy to feel. On the screen, you try the MRA vario touring, or just remove the wind deflectors (it removed the buffeting, but does mean more wind on the chest).
Cheers, got the older one simply down to cost and availability!
You clearly haven’t heard of the camshaft failures that all the internet knows about. Just try to sell one of these and you’ll see. Not even dealers want them back!
@@miro_s I could nearly sell my 890 ADV R too. The first 9 buyers that contacted me all asked me about the cam lobes. Take to take it to one of those 'we buy any bike/car' places in the end, and they didn't care.
@@defylifeadventure yep, I had nearly zero interest in 6+ months, eventually I sold taking a hit on the price 🤷♂️
Should have held out for a T7, but you already know that 😉
Good luck with your cams and followers. Mine only lasted 4000 miles and it’s a 2K repair. Now looking at dumping this.
WOT??? Oh god….. 🤦
😂 yes as a Bavarian I can tell u, some of them do
Good luck with that pos, ive had both the tuareg and the 890 adventure. The 890 ate its engine at 2100 miles along with many other problems. The aprilia was better all around.
Fair play, mine has 11,000 miles on it now - EAK! But going well, pulls like a train!
ill have to keep an eye out for you now blending in on the orange squad!
Wish I had your money to chop and change bikes like that 😅😅 this UA-cam thing must be good 😅😅😉
You don’t want my debt! Lost a fortune on the Tuareg, the KTM is 4 years old and was cheap (ish).
Sold the Aprilia! Did I miss something. Do tell.
So sorry I cant go into detail just yet. Cheers!
Don't let folk tell you KTM are unreliable... I have an 1190adventure... over 29000miles..in and off road no bother!
Just service it properly and I'm sure it'll be a faithful servant.
ATB Alistair 👍
Why did you let Tuareg go????
So sorry I cant go into detail just yet. Cheers!
So what's the problem with the Tuareg?
What have I missed?? KTM would not event think of. Wow ! Happy riding and as always great videos. 👍 😊
Cheers :D You’ve missed nothing! The Tuareg went the distance some time ago - Cant go into detail just yet…. Thanks for watching!
@Motoeuro no need to explain at all !!
Love the content of your videos. One of the best channel on UA-cam !
Is this bike really 🇦🇹? I thought it is build in the country with the wall around 🤔 "Subjective" look vs. "no way": enjoy it and I hope you've made the right decision 💙💛🏁🤛🏼
Reliability. Plus, not sure how to tell you this, but Newcastle Motors isn't a KTM dealer. So, fingers crossed if anything goes wrong. It appears that cheeky geordie salesman can sell ice cream to eskimos lol. I'd be asking why the original owner PX'd it...presumably for a Honda.
Welcome home sir. Welcome home.
Love your vids superb humour 👍
Iv had many ktms 1090r 390duke and adventure 690 sm and duke among some currently on a knew 790 adv still have the 390adv and 690 , they get used plenty and honestly Ive only had minor issues never left me stranded (many other makes have ) hopefully yours will be great hope you enjoy it ktms all seem to have the same fun dna 🏍👍
:)) The problem is that you always search for a perfect bike which does not exist. I would love to hear from you more details about It didn' t work out. I had a short test ride on Touareg and logically thought that it' s a good bike but i didn' t buy it at the end of the day. PS So how long do you think will it take you to change finally from KTM to T7? :)) Cheers and pls. send some feedback on your short marriage. I am very curious.
If anything goes wrong with the Aprilia, which is bound to happen, it is Italian, you'll probably have difficulty getting spares quickly. The KTM may go wrong, but at least parts are readily available and delivery is quick (usually with a week).
You had a vague problem with vibration and turned tail at the first hint of poor dealer support... So you got a KTM? Sound rationale 😏
Good luck with the KTM ,my machanic told me to stay away from that machine, He's in the know coming from that Dealers background, I'm having no problems getting anything for my Aprilia 😊
I don't know wich is your problem with Aprilia Tuareg, but I bought one few months ago and i'm not satisfied too. Too hot from enging, oil consumption and gear hard to use.
They certainly Jodel.
Welcome to the dark side, hope you love it as much as i love mine, bloody awesome bike, get a decent bash plate and some barkbusters. set the suspension for your weight etc ...never use the luggage and get down the gym 🏋♀🏋♂😀
Back on two wheels doesn't bode well for the Tuareg... As always, I look forward to your content. Godspeed!
nice. next ride on a 890. is a difference with the 790. torque at the bottom is much better, drives even better. good luck and hope to see nice funny results from you. I love how you do that👌
You now have to carry a bag with you for falling bolts and nuts. ;-)
Hey there! Another awesome video man!
I have a question :)
Now that you have a 790, how does it compare in terms or PERCEIVED weight to the tuareg? I ask this because I am one of those that claims the 790/890/901 feel very lightweight, and I tried a tuareg the other day for 3 minutes and although it felt very good, it didnt strike as being AS good in camouflaging its weight as the 790/890/901... but I was left unsure. Whats your take on this?
Cheers and happy rides!
Great question! Both are heavy, I think the Aprilia carries it slightly better but to be really blunt, there’s not much in it. I like the KTM as when it goes over in the dirt those fuel tanks may prevent from falling flat, a little like the BM GS does with it's ‘pots’, therefore should be a little easier to pick up. The Aprilia will fall flat and damage a lot - faring, bars, plastics etc, the KTM’s tanks may prevent this? Cheers :D
Thank you for the quick answer! Yeah i agree... the 790/890 feels very immune to damages, considering the typical crash on a big adv bike happens at low speeds. Good points :) keep it up!
Interesting regarding the damage there, I’ve seen a few videos where the Aprillia has crashed and it’s took a fair amount of damage!
Best music for ktm bike porn ever😂😅. I have the same bike since 2020 and still love it❤
To be fair it's not that much heavier than the Tuareg ... there's only about 10kg in it .... 790 Adv R approx 214kg wet weight ... Tuareg 660 approx 204kg wet weight (no luggage on either bike). The 790 carries it's weight fairly low too, I thought it would feel top heavy being quite a tall bike but having test ridden one I found that is a no - those low slung side tanks really work well .... the compromise is they look a bit funky though and ruin the front end aesthetics of the bike.
As my mate found out recently, those tanks make it a fatty if you're in deep ruts - his got well wedged in.
Finally a proper bike ...
Glad to see you back! New video, new bike! What more can we ask from you?! Good luck on the new horse!
Excellent choice, I went from the F700GS to the R1200GS then to the T7 and after two crashes at a standstill, to the KTM890 Adventure. And I'm delighted with the bike's handling and low center of gravity. I own a standard model, not R.
I also know that the KTM is less reliable than the Anzani engine used by Blériot in 1909 to cross the English Channel, but no matter, this bike gives me a lot of pleasure and the engine is fantastic.
Enjoy the beast!
Cheers
Cheers! So far, it's fun and a bit bonkers! Thanks for watching!
Got husky 901 expedition in june this year. 10k km later i love it even more.
...it seems that couples are not lasting as long as before...happy riding with the austrian horse 😅
Hi, Would love to hear what happened with Aprilia Tuareg!!! It's interesting what went wrong? And welcome to Team KTM :)
Cheers :D More soon....
Yes they do bonny lad especially after a shit load of sherbets😅
Brilliant to see you on a bike again :) 👌sorry to hear about the Aprilia.
It's interesting my dad an I are looking at doing something similar, I had a 300 rally Brilliant fun no longer trail riding an I'm back on a beemer in the form of a 1150gsa.
2 years ago we had 2x ktm 390 advs which we loved but ended up rejected with issues, wheel/tyre problems (fixed those at our local tyre place) fly by wire issues an problems with both bikes displays filling with condensation) + other problems, got a refund had a gs 1200 for a while then jumped into the fire with a Himalayan an that ended up rejected as well with the dealer agreeing completely that the issues on it shouldn't have happened.
My dad's been diagnosed with a prostate problem so been trying to sus out what bike to get him that's light n managable, to keep his mind off things I'm letting my blade go to fund him something to ride.(in the process of moving to Scotland the plan was to wait till after then before the docs stuff)
Showed him the Hondas nx500 an transalp but he keeps harking back to the 390 n ktms so it looks like we are gonna look at the orange brand again 3rd times the charm hopefully.
I reckon I could fix 80% of the issues we had with our 2x 390s bar the display problems.
Didn't expect to look at them again but but Rally is to trail focused for him n the nx an transalp a bit on the heavy side.
N I thought the 390 had the best balance of weight comfort fun n suspension that works for our needs just a shame at the time the tech n dealer prep let it down.
If the 390 goes well again I'm quite curious to look at the bigger cc stuff Norden an 790s to spanner on myself just a shame they don't have a tool like the gs911 for the ktms :)
Thanks for the vids really interesting an fun!
Cheers for the comment :D it’s the age old issue; trail riding needs a lighter single, road work you’re better off with a twin IMHO, the 390 is actually a good bike and the new one looks ever better. If you’re doing big miles a twin would be better IHMO, but if you’re just getting out on a Sunday for a bit of fun anything will do the job.
My clocks also fog-up, but I’ve asked my dealer to look into this as KTM used to replace them - apparently there is some kind of fix, but it only happens when the temp is low. Summer riding not really an issue.
Best of luck to you both, cheers :D
@@Motoeuro thanks mate :) always interesting to see others takes on things we actually went an looked at the 790/890/901 yesterday really impressed. Coming from my 1150gsa anything would seem super lightweight! Those fuel pods certainly make it an interesting proposition for me at least with a nerve injury much easier to move around spent a while pushing them around the showroom an stuff trying to set it off an I was ok with them :)
Will be really interesting to see how you get on with the condensation :) if there is something that can be done to improve it similar to yourself we might end up looking at older ones budget wise of we buy before our move to D&g / Perthshire bike prices are getting eye watering latley for new stuff.
An yep we are hoping to go to Norway which is leaning me towards the twins once we know whats happening with my dad's prostate after an mri so thatl influence the bike choice a fair bit.
Thanks again for the great videos one of my fav channels 👍
@@adaptableadventurerider Thanks for that :D Yes the fuel pod things are great - empty or full, you don’t even feel any weight difference. Much easier than pushing a top heavy, fully fuelled bike. Go for used, lots of low milage ones around and from a dealer you’ll get at least 6 months cover. All the best!
@@Motoeuro thanks mate yep I think thatl be the plan :)
Just to update on this ended up with a T7 2020 used my dad got diagnosed with prostate cancer stage 3+ so I sold my fireblade of 13 years ownership to suprise him ^_^ which went down ace. Really rating it so far.
What happened to the aprilia, that would be helpful to tell xx
Just to much money don’t worry about reliability you will only have it for 6 months haha enjoy
I wish I had too much money - Lost a fortune on the Aprilia, the KTM is 4 years old!
Look forward to see you at the ABR 2024
Ah. the classic case of Rebound Bike......we'll see how long this lasts. :^D
Ha ha!!! Yeah, rebound alright! Was simply the right price, right location, right time. But probably the wrong decision! oh dear......😂
KTM : Keep Taking Money.
Enjoy your video s. Keep it up
My guess is that this was a business move. The views and clicks on the Taureg 660 were not at the necessary level to keep the checks rolling in. Switching to a KTM will immediately generate thousands (maybe even tens of thousands) of views and clicks and there will be more follow up videos that will also generate more views and clicks. That will result in more revenue.
Ha ha!! Cynical but smart - I never thought of that! No, that’s not the reason, TBH the amount of money I lost on the Aprilia I would need millions of views to claw that back!
Why?
@@Motoeuro Not cynical, more of an analytical business guess. At what point are you going to divulge the reason? Or will you drag that out for more clicks? 🤔
Trust me, it’s addictive…
I do like this channel.....I have had my 790r for a year and a half and it has kept me upright when I have had no right to to remain so. The electronics on a bike with this sort of grunt is a game changer for me. The CoG is amazing and feels lighter than my old Honda 250Rally and it is easier to pick up with that tank design than the Honda (yes I have put it down several times, I have a 29" in seam and well - you know gravity works at a stop and one foot is still no where near the ground). Wind buffering from the screen is horrendous, but a $15.00 diffuser makes a world of difference and road work is 100% better. I would ditch the panniers bulky and ugly. The look of the bike is subjective - And I like the look.
Looking forward to more content - Cheers from Queensland .
Cheers buddy! Thanks for that :D
I am going from a crf300 rally, and honestly I think it is heavier to pick up than my old nc700! I am seriously considering the Taureg over the rally, but awaiting news on what happened to this one? I have seen some spotty reports of troubles, but it's the internet and the KTM's are no better. I'm going with my heart for once!
@@cjohn8440 Hey, cheers for the comment. The Aprilia did not work out, so frustrating as it was epic. The KTM was cheap and as Ive never had one, thought it would be worth a gamble. Pah! What the hell! All the best! Oh, yeah, my 250 Rally was a PAIN to pick up, no idea why it is much lighter than most ADV bikes!
@@Motoeuro well hopefully you can share someday what happened. agreed on the gamble as the 790 is my alternate pick, they look to great bikes if you can get one where most of the niggles have been worked out. I think the rally just carries its weight so… oddly? It all feels up top. That is the very reason the Aprilia and the KTM are at the top of my list. Most say they carry their weight low. Suppose I won’t know until I swing a leg over one. Be safe!
Good to see you back buddy!
ups second mistake
J'adore ;)
Reposessed?
Ha ha! Not quite :D
Good luck with this one.
Fingers crossed!
Cheers! thank you for being part of the fun :D
@@Motoeuro i enjoy a lot your videos. Keep them coming. Cheers!
Is not the KTM much more expensive than the T7?
The 890 is, not the 790.
The KTM is 4 years old! Used bike, cheaper than a used T7 :D
@@Motoeuro would love to hear how you fair on the KTM. I was interested in the standard 2024 model. It too, now, has fully adjustable suspension, and Rally mode, all the goodies of the high seated Rally version. The Rally version just has superior, hard core, suspension. The standard suits us, non pretentious, shortie adventurers, just fine. It is the reliability niggles that puts one off. And, the Tuareg! Please give us some feedback on how you faired with that bike. You left us in the cold, on that one. I am hoping for the Tenere T9 Adventure to come out, more road, than off, with 19 inch front wheel. Should be a blast for us shorties, and strappers, alike. Good downsized for a GS boxer, sportier, lighter, better off road
@@davidmallia628 Cheers David, will try! T9 you say? Hmmmmmmm......