I’ve always been a Honda guy and reliability is huge to me. I took a chance buying the Tuareg due to raving reviews and I couldn’t be happier. 5k miles with zero issues and it’s the best bike I’ve ever owned. On the forums many have far more miles with zero issues it’s a winner deserving more consideration from those who are brand loyal to others.
Reliability was also a primary concern for me, despite positive reviews. The lack of supporting aprillia dealerships and reported slow parts availability (for many brands poat covid) made me hesitant.
I have to be honest: I think that the reviewers are partly to blame for the "the bike is awesome, but overlooked" phenomenon. Yes, every single UA-cam channel was praising the Tuareg in their first reviews in '22... but then over the next few months they stopped talking about it. What I mean is: when the Transalp and the Vstrom800 came out and were reviewed, did anyone say "compared to the Tuareg, the suspension is worse / the electronic package is missing features / the bike is heavier"? No.. it was just back to the old common comparisons to the T7 and 890KTM while the Tuareg just disappeared from the vocabulary of renowned Journalists. So it never really had a chance to make its way into the minds of the community.
Dude I completely agree. There are so many comparison videos from whatever bike vs. the T7. But if they were to throw in the Tuareg, it would murder both on stats. But yep, no mention of it.
They often do this. The KTM 790 Adventure received the highest praise almost everywhere. Then when middle-weight comparisons started coming out later, the KTM was often excluded and sometimes not even mentioned. Instead the comparisons focused on the T700, Transalp, the Tuareg, and later the DE800. UK and US reviews in particular were bad for this. Odd as in the UK the 790 was cheaper or similar price to most of them.
And think about the failing camshafts FB page of the 790/890 and still nobody talked about the Touareg. I haven't ridden one but the 15.000 km problem free is not such a big bragging point. My KTM 950 did that and they didn't call them Keeps Talking Money in vain. I guess people are reluctant because it's Italian.
15k kms since February, literally zero issues, and something that I realized the hard way: this bike is a tough motherfucker and hard to break. I had some good drops in the dirt, and other than some scratches and a broken mirror, it always starts immediately. Outstanding handling and performance, so couldn't be happier with a bike of it's size. Keep up the amazing work guys.
I've dropped mine countless times, even the mirrors have held up and not broken. Only thing is i've bent the handlebar from the bushings, they get soft when dropped alot. Handlebar risers definitely have an effect on that as well. I'm a lightweight guy, under 70kg-s and I can handle it a-okay. Though there of course are situations when I have to drop it on purpose to drag it over obstacles / get it to a better angle for lifting.
You guys do great reviews, I'm not knocking your video this is just my observations as a guy who really considered a Tuareg 660. The reason for poor sales is the lack of dealerships and poor rating for Aprilia's customer service. There have been reports of failures by owners that actually ride them hard over long miles for long periods of time, year- year and a half. I'm not saying that it is higher than usual failures across manufacturers but there have been reported failures. In the end that was why I went with the T7, plenty of dealerships. My clutch/gearbox weren't 100% and Yamaha is replacing it under warranty right now. KTM and Aprilia would have fought me on it, regarding KTM I can speak from experience. A company can have the best bike on the planet but it comes down to the manufacturer and dealer support that make a true winner.
My nearest Canadian dealer is 1334 km away My nearest dealer is in the USA is 730 km away. Its been 10 yrs since we had a dealer in Winnipeg. As an astounding coincidence, one day before this video was released, a RSV Mille V- twin passed me by. First time seeing one in ages. As a T7 owner, the Tuareg ticks all the boxes of what I would want from a T7 upgrade, namely suspension and cruise control
Your 100 percent correct, I live in Winnipeg as well and I love the tuareg but with no dealer network around us there is not much point in owning one. I'm in bc right now and I ran into a guy with one. They are beautiful bikes in person. I'll stick with my 701 enduro adv build/te 300 combo as it checks all the boxes for me.
Great video production ... having the separate microphones for both guys linked to the left & right stereo output on my laptop sounded like they were on either side of me on the couch!
The Aprilia is a brilliant bike no doubt, a guy I know has one and rides the wheels off it. I’ve also had a test ride and found it to be very good, apart from the engine heat on the tight leg. The biggest problem for me was I just couldn’t trust it, not like a T7 or an AT. There have been so many small ish issues reported with it on line you just don’t know if you will be lucky and get a good one or if you will be one of the unlucky ones who have a bike full problems, most small but I’ve seen a few issues with cams and suspension now. The lack of parts is also an issue many are having, waiting weeks and weeks for simple stuff. It’s a big investment for most people so buying something that is tried and tested as well as trusted makes a difference. Only my option like so don’t hate me 👍😁🏴
I think the key thing really is the dealer network unfortunately or at least I'd like to see them take steps to supplement the lack of dealer. For example, my closest aprillia dealer is 3.5hrs away. I do all my own maintenance so it's not a huge deal. I'd hope they'd maybe give me a copy of the service manual, which they might do but I doubt it. I'll be charitable and assume that I won't have to worry about parts and I can order them. But one thing that bugs me is that only dealers can clear service lights, including the oil change light. It's my understanding that's still the case and I just feel like that's a bit silly. I should be able to do that myself.
This bike has been on my radar...sold my T7 after 2.5 years- great bike but just too top heavy. After watching your review and seeing how the fuel sits lower than the T7 I think it's my next bike. (to sit alongside my 2017 690). We're lucky to have multiple Aprilia dealers here in Denver.
Hey thanks Dave for this updated post. I've had the Tuareg for 8K miles now, can't say a bad word for it - except finding Neutral is an ongoing battle still, lol. Still having loads of fun on it. Yes, dealer/parts availability as EVERYONE has mentioned, and not having control over turning off the Engine Wrench warning light, are concerns, but my bike is running fine so far, and that's really the crap shoot of all bikes anyway right? Thanks so much for the great follow up on the Tuareg. We needed the love......
@@WyomingFamilyAdventures Thanks for your reply and advice. I've adjusted the clutch cable quite a # of times in the beginning. I found a sweet spot, but when I had the Quick Shifter installed, these adjustments didn't make a difference any longer, and can't see that QS has any meaningful adjustment to make a difference (I could be mistaken). The oil has been changed 3 times now, to no effect. I just live w/ it, finding neutral on the roll to a stop, or rocking the bike a little forward w/ clutch in in first gear, things like that. Frankly, if this is the biggest problem I have to deal w/, I'll take it, lol. Happy riding!
The practicalities & usability of adv bikes with low fuel weight like the Tuareg is such an advantage in proper off road conditions I don’t know why more manufacturers don’t do it…I ride a older adv bike with low fuel weight under the seat when off road it’s so planted, so stable, feels so light I don’t think I’ll ever want a bike with a traditional high set tank as long a I’m riding off road. Tuareg has been on top of my wish list for a while now. Always appreciate your reviews gents 👌🏼
5k miles only issue has been a fuel sending unit. Absolutely love this bike. And hey, my 22 KLR had to have a sending unit so don't start that! 7 bikes and the Tuareg is my favorite to pull out for a day of anything goes riding.
i bought one brand new in Dakar Podium Colours in march while it was on offer for £9400 and i like it so much ive already spent another £1600 or $3100 Australian on outbackmotortek crash bars and bash plate in white and full arrow exhaust system which im still waiting for and a Sprint air filter designed for heavy offroad, and im not going to stop there, its nimble, light cheap to run with a big tank, excellent suspension, quick shifter is silky smooth as is the gearbox, and it inspires so much confidence in the rough stuff, i love it, probably the most comprihensive electronics package for the price in its class, most certainly overlooked.
Their is a US rider that has done “ 16,000 miles “ long term review , he has had a few issues, but predominantly let down by Aprilla dealers - have also heard this from some Australia 660 owners as well . I think a fantastic bike that seems to be let down by dealers and lack of dealers in Australia. BUT I would buy one ☝️ over a CFMOTO 450 , would rather support Europeans than Chinese. Yes twice the money I know . But twice the power , better suspension and travel PLUS cruise control - only mid range ADV with it .
Had a chance to buy one here in the Pacific Northwest of the USA; it truly ticks many of the middleweight adventure boxes but it was the “unknowns” that gave me pause and I passed.
I unloaded a flawed Desert-X and picked up one of these to finish up the season. Other than the engine heat and speed above 150km/hr, there is nothing about the Desert-X that was as good as this Tuareg.
Prices are a strange thing. Here in Switzerland, the Tuareg costs exactly (on the dime) the same as the Transalp, the VStrom and the Tenere (all 11.995 CHF). While in Aussie-Land it seems to be quite a bit more expensive than those.
I think because of our small market size manufacturers experiment with pricing. That said just about all twin adventure bike currently have huge discounts like up to $5000 in some cases
Great bike all around, I just got the Aprilia hard pannier racks system for the back so i can fit the hard panniers from my Guzzi on it. This bike can be an American open roads traveler as well as an adventure do it all. I can put on soft saddle bags on or the hard ones if I want and then unload it so I can go have fun on the trails. That said..I just came back from a 400 miles + ride in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan today and; I took my Honda 300CRF Rally for it. There’s a lot of sand up there and we were not camping so the CRF was the better choice. At this time of the year (in the U P) they get ready for the upcoming winter so the snowmobiling season is the next thing to get ready for on the trails. So, the graders are outhere loosening everything up and getting rid of washboard etc. So, you never know what you will encounter as you ride; hence a light bike is the better choice when you have to duck paddle for a half mile here and there. R
Ive been looking at motorcycles, a Tuareg wasn't even on my radar, as ot doesn't really come up many uk reviews, but it was the only bike that gave me the wow factor when i first saw it. When you look into the bike there is lots to like about, as you say its very underated, ive always loved underated motorcycles. I'm sure there are lots of aftermarket accessories. ( not overpriced factory stuff) Thete os a dealer within 20miles, i have heard parts can be hard to get, something to look into.
Actually, the blame is not on the consumers for overlooking the Aprilia. The issue is their poor dealership representation. Here in South Africa the distributer folded and now all the Tuareg owners are stranded without support and nobody wants to purchase their previously owned bikes.
I am not saying that you are wrong. Such a bad (nonexisting) dealer support is of course a huge problem. The strange thing is: where I live, there a lots and lots of Aprilia dealers... probably more than Honda or Yamaha. And still: over the last 2 years I have seen only 2 Tuaregs on the road (or off the road for that matter).
I actually bought one of those very bikes recently here in Cape Town... 2022 model, 2500kms on the clock, not a single dealer in the country, was quite worried about the potential risk and costs, but watching this video now at this point I feel very pleased with myself. Hou duim vas vir my ;)
We pay too much for the Tuareg in Australia compared to what they cost in other regions. Tuareg is $12k in USA - in Australia it's $US16k - then add on the lack of authorised service and parts available in Australia and it's just not a sensible choice for many. If I lived in the USA I'd take the risk - but not in Australia. We pay far too much for the Yamaha Tenere 700 in Australia as well - but at least service and parts are readily available.
I've had this bike on the radar for some time to buy, one of the factors that has held me back are the on going issues with dealers. You've only pay attention to every second post and it puts the dealers (or lack of) in the gun.
Another great video! I currently ride a 2017 KTM 1090R for easy off-road and fast pavement rides, but currently looking for a fully equipped 2013 KTM 990 Adventure. If a new bike was on the table, the Aprilia Tuareg would be my choice.
I did test ride the Tuareg 2 weeks ago. Great bike in many respects, but the big problem in my opinion is the engine characteristics.. no punch down low and in the middle, which is not what I expect from an ADV bike. Maybe this turns off many potential buyers
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I guess it comes down to personal taste.. for me the Tuareg with the engine of the Suzuki Vstrom 800 DE would be perfect
Doubble standards in a nutshell. Chinese motorcycles - no one knows about reliability, small dealer network. No problem - selling like a hot cupcakes. Aprilia - brand with a history, legacy, great reviews from almost every journalist. Sales are struggling because of reliability and small dealer network 🤦🏻 crazy world.
Price is more important than ever right now. People are being squeezed with inflation and increased mortgage rates. 24k is a lot to risk on a bike with bad dealer support and questionable reliability. $9.5k for a 450mt, thats the deposit on a Tuareg finance. People are realising they don’t need the best and greatest bike for the one ride a month they can get out and do. If you are a gun rider with money to spare then great, get a Tuareg, but that isn’t the reality for most Australians right now
@@slakk5093 Sure, inflation is a pain in the ass everywhere in the World and i totally understand that at the moment people are searching value more then ever. Still, I don’t buy this hype about chinese motorcycles and anti hype towards Tuareg reliability. We don’t need to compare Tuareg vs 450MT because of the price difference, I believe Tuareg is in different category then 450MT, you have other models to compare - Honda 500x, KTM390 adventure, etc. vs 450MT, you can add Royal enfield and Triumph scrambler 400 as well. If people are bragging about dealers network and reliability, they already have bulletproof models/companies to choose from at the same price category. So why to go chinese? And i’m not even talking about political point of view, which in my mind as well is very important. I just don’t get it from a rational point of view. P.s. i’m not Tuareg owner, i’m riding T7.
The specs and reviews have always been great for this bike. Unfortunately, I couldn't get one for a test ride from any of the dealer in Sydney. The dealers rely on preorders from riders that were buying them based on online reviews and specs, not a ride.
That's terrible isn't it. I would never buy a bike without riding one first. I can spend all day telling you how good it is, but you ultimately have to see and feel for yourself. I once bought a bike from the hype, an XR250 Prolink. We never got on and it soon left the garage. The only consolation, you wouldn't have that problem with the Tuareg, it's a cracking bike.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Absolutely. That is one aspect of buying/ownership that is seldom overlooked. I am pretty sure Aprilia is a solid option, in my case BMW was the only manufacturer that treated me as if they wanted my business. Yamaha dealer couldn't provide a World Raid for test ride. I put my deposit down for the BMW as that was the only motorcycle I could test ride.
I know these bikes aren't that old but I read the comments here and I will say do you know how stupid it looks when people write 7k or 10k and no problem.. seriously that's it's first service. Come back at 50 or 100k and tell me.
Exactly. I have ridden more than 500.000 km on Japanese bikes without a single issue. That's a track record. Almost new bikes shouldn't have issues at all.
Yes I'm one of the ppl who put a comment 7k in 8moths, but I owned Honda AT and at this milage I it was burning 500ml oil every 1k miles. Had it from new and I did do engine braking as recomended by Honda. Another example V Strom 650 xt 19 model throtle bodies issues. Let's be honest if bike was made in 1990 - 2000 maybe bit later on I will agree with your statement but all the new bikes a bit of hit and miss. Another thing is that how many ppl keeps bikes until 50k yet 100k ? in Uk if you bike has that many miles regardles of brand is dificult to sell. I keep bikes 3-4 years as I want to ride as many bikes as I can during my life time. All my bikes before were Japanese and I don't regret buying Tuareg even if I have to fit new engine in it. Fun factor out of the box and overall package is - for me at least - almost twice as good as it is on T7.
@@gregs7194 I don't care if your Honda fell apart as the dealer wheeled it out. This has nothing to do with the stupid comments about I have ridden this bike 7k miles and had no issues. You say this like people should be impressed. I find it laughable.
So far, biggest mileage I have seen on this bike was 70k km (~43k miles) in two years, issue free. One guy posted info on FB that he is swapping his unit and taking also Tuareg 660, but new, from 2024. That's how much he liked it. On other forums and groups there are people showing their bikes that have 50-60 thousand kms (30 - 40 thousand miles) without any problems. So it looks decent I would say. And still, this bike is available for just two years, people simply hadn't enough time to put bigger mileage on theirs.
I was surprised to see one for each year they've been imported at a dealer in the city. They were at a multi-marque dealer with KTM, Yamaha, Honda and CF Moto. There are a lot of Italians in Montreal, but even the Ducati dealer in the Italian Quarter is not a large volume. I don't see many ADV in urbania. I've seen one of: 650GS, 800GS, 850GS, BigGS, T7, Tuareg, DR650.
It comes down to support. Aprillia/Moto guzzi dealerships are as scarce as hens teeth. The closet dealer to me is 300 miles away. Most people want a place to turn to for repair and service. Great bikes mostly, horrible network.
It is neither underrated nor overlooked, because every fooker and his dog keeps telling you how great it is. And great it may be, but you hear about silly problems all the time and as a result it gets ignored, maybe more than it should.
Couldn't agree more. I have tested it. Great bike. But even my test bike which was brand new already revealed major quality issues. That's the reason why people do not buy it. End of story. It's about consistency. AT and T7 for the win.
7k miles on, more than half done on UK TET in 8 moths and no issues. But there may be out of factory problem with forks compression and rebound (valve upside down/shims crushed) as posts on forums and videos start to emerge. I didn't open forks on mine yet. Seems that even new 2024 have this issue. Dave any chance you could find out if that's is the case with one you've ridden ? and help to address the issue with Aprilia if there's one. I could provide a link to video and the post if that would of any help.
Loved the sound when full noise just happens, but first of anything is a no-go. also I didn't get one the as the dealer net work is good enough in the city, but out in the bush !!! 660 for 23+k bit rich. F900 at 25+k better option... (no I don't have one)
I own one and I will say one reason for people who are paying attention to the service intervals is valve adjustments. Also due to the engine design, specialized tools needed (there are some ways around this), and both cams needing to come out if adjustment is needed this is a VERY expensive service (around $2200 - $2500 US). This service also happens nearly twice as often as some modern motors which do not require valve adjustment until you reach 20K or more miles. It is a fun bike to ride though, particularly for the size. The front suspension needs a bit of sorting out. A lot of owners are reporting fork shims bent or smashed to bits (in my case) for those that have been opened up even with only a few hundred miles of moderate riding on the clock. I was not entirely happy with the front suspension feel in general, but it is similar to what is used on the base DesertX so there is a bit more info on tuning it now as that bike is rather popular. The rear shock is bog standard and easy to tune (I did the K-Tech adventure piston for the Tenere since these are shared parts). I did eventually go to a full Ohlins setup which I am in the process of getting tuned now. On the other side of the pond we are also seeing some fine dust make it past the stock setup so the Uni or the pre that Uni makes (or both) are probably a good idea. A drop on the left side commonly leads to the shifter bolt being snapped off in a way that you will need an easy-out to remove it. I know about half a dozen folks (myself included) that have experienced that issue. I did both the aftermarket steel shifter and a titanium replacement bolt. The right side brake pedal also uses the same bolt, but it does not stick out as far so it seems to be less of a problem. I did the aftermarket steel brake pedal and titanium replacement bolt for the right side as well to hedge my bets.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV maybe people are worried about support? Not many dealers or mechanical repair shops that work on them, not sure, but road bikes had that issue years ago, parts support and finding someone to repair them was an issue, not sure that's an issue nowadays.
Excellent William thanks for this information from a users perspective. As we always say, we ride this bikes during their new honeymoon period. You still like so that's a good sign.
Hi Dave, Clubby, good engine mate, Power delivery good but the air intakes get me, they have the air scoops for the filters from the front of the bike ye I think, prone for scooping water and dust into it ye. 👋🤠👍
Every air filter scoops dust lol. Isn't it it's job? The easy access at the top makes maintenance a breeze. Try that on a Ducati 😅. Honestly mine never sucked water, even under heavy rain
In a world where run out Africa twins sell for $20K, the Tuareg and my favourite , the AJP PR7 are too expensive. The Chinese and Indian models coming in at half the price are selling well.
Very good question. My heart keeps the T700 in the garage. Once you sit on this, and realise what comes standard your head starts to rule. That's why I don't sit on it for too long. :)
Gee that felt like the shopping channel. Was that a paid advertisement? From an owner - yes it's a great bike. Best real adv bike on the market. Parts availability from dealers in useless. Best to have a spare bike if you plan to have too much fun and break it occasionally. Do not buy one if you plan to commute in summer. Even with a cat delete this is one seriously hot bike. Great in winter and the colder months though.
@@volvogt21 all these guys “reviews” are like that, they never really say anything too bad about a bike. Don’t wanna jeopardise those long term test bikes or release junkets I guess.
@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 yes I'd have to agree. It's a bit like the days of advertising in mags. Their products were always great when tested. Plus the junkets and freebies these guys get is unbelievable. Have you seen the free gear they get!!!!! My mate has a channel which I won't name and loves all the gear he gets sent by klim etc even though he re tons their gear is crap. Wears it a couple of times then sells it. Lol.
As to why it's not more popular, from what I have read (in the US) it is largely due to concerns for reliability and parts availability (lack of dealers across the US).
Great Tuareg. We have a motorcycle stereo that can connect to 2 helmets, with a compass and barometer, which would be perfect for you. Looking forward to working with you. How can I contact you?🏍
I considered it. It looks great, but I struggled with the value. It's 90% of the money of a Tiger 900 and compared to that, there's a laundry list of features the Aprilia doesn't have.
I love the bike but the price by the time you add the necessary protection bits and pieces like a proper bash plate, heated grips made it expensive and uncompetitive. Now the F900 is out, I'd say it'll be a harder stretch to go with it
Good points... but to add, last year, the Tuareg won the 13 stage Africa Eco Race (the old Dakar) w/ 0 issues, and beat Tarres/T7 that had 2 issues. Too bad that story has yet to be carried. Your point about marketing - so true. So many great bikes!
The Tuareg could've done so well here in India but they decided to price it the same as the Tiger 900 Rally Pro and Ducati Desert X. No one would pay that for a 660cc when they'll get more bang for the buck from the bigger bikes and better service network. Bringing it via the CBU route was an epic mistake. Can't imagine who at Aprilia India approved this strategy. The 600cc ADV segment is not existent except for the Versys 650 and Tiger 660 Sport, both which are not true ADVs.
The headlight is what does it. So many people cannot get over the ugliness of the headlight to even try riding it to see how good of a bike it really is.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Really? I missed that in the video. I'd just left the Eco Race comment on another comment. The Tuareg had 0 issues in that race and the second place T7 had 2, lol.
You don't need to sell it to us... it's not flying off the showroom floors because it's a 660cc bike @ 24,000 dollars..that's what Stopped me! That is Mad!
No hate for the Aprilia. But Jacopo is the reason that bike won the africa eco race. Hes inhuman. And one of the most insane riders of our time was racing against him on a gross foot 😂. Pol and Botturi put in work on the T7's
If you ride this bike back to back with a T7, there's no doubt the Tuareg feels way more "racey." Not saying one rider is or isn't better than the other. But I think if you put the same person on both bikes, the Tuareg will definitely have faster lap/test times.
No we were super early. We did the first review years ago when it first came out. You really should have listened to what we said we said it was good. Are you on another planet?
The reason for lack of sales is quite similar to all the lineup. Almost complete lack of sales and customer support from Piaggio group leads to loss of market. This has lead to low potential customer pot and all the keyboard cowboys killing the product even before it hits the road. And then we have the "adv" crowd. Comparing this machine to T7. It is better technically and ergonomically in every aspect. It is also better stylewize for inteded purpose. But would I recommend it to one of our clients - NO. The utter shit ot lacking parts support and service support even in europe kills this bike as an "adventure" bike. Just a weekend warrior for short burst of fun. And i LOVE this bike. If there was room to spare, I would get it for myself too. But as something to be sold in thousands - not the way Piaggio is handling/managing the market. sadly.
I think some forget that to some, certainly me, looks are very important, and being able to make a bike ‘my bike’ is important . Bikes like the Tuareg and the Vstrom might actually be great bikes but I’m not gonna touch them with a barge pole if they are ugly and I can’t bling it up to how I want it. The Tuareg is pig ugly, same for the Vstrom, and no blinging up those bikes is gonna do it for me. Bikes like the T7 have an air about them, there’s something that stirs the soul - the Tuareg…. Nah…
Only my personal opinion, I just think it's overpriced. To me it's a 20k bike. Should also have cornering ABS. But agreed a great bike. Sadly lots comment on the poor dealer network and attitude. Does not so the brand and favours.
And what are most people going to buy? A T7! I see one almost every ride as of late. I saw three together last weekend. Two at my hotel two weeks ago. I've seen two Transalps. Some new KLRs. Zero Tuaregs. People want Japanese.
Most of the dealerships here have dropped Aprilia and Moto guzzler this mob called Royal Enfield seems to be giving the other manufacturers a bit of a headache now with CFMoto is game on.
We've have 2 featured on our channel that we've had for over a year now and no intention to trade them any time soon. So far they've been as reliable as any other bike I've had. I'll definitely post on our channel if there are any issues.
Overpriced in AU and under supported by a lack of dealers. Try getting support for any mechanical issues 100km or 1000km from major cities on the coast in AU. Zero factory support. Love to see someone try wheeling their busted Tureg into the local bike mechanic in Longreach and see how they go. Classic case of a brand staying they aren't supported but do little to support their customers. Classic chicken or egg.
I don’t agree they’re overpriced considering the specs. Dealer availability seems to be an issue but then again not many brands are supported in long reach
I found the engine boring, and forks dived excessively under not much front brake, and the intake noise was obnoxious. Ergos and weight were good, but I went with a Suzuki 800DE instead
T7 is expensive, for what you get. If you add the cheapest suspension upgrade to T7 you are 10% higher than Tuareg and you still do not get a better handling motorcycle.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I agree that the specs are great, cruise control etc. The cost is the limiting factor for me. There are a lot of great reliable bikes out there for the $24K. Thanks for all your videos.
I've never thought one way or the other on it's looks, but I do have one, and I have to tell you I've had people come up to me and take pictures of it because they thought it was so great looking, lol. Go figger!! (I have the tri-color '23 model)
7k miles on, more than half done on UK TET in 8 moths and no issues. But there may be out of factory problem with forks compression and rebound (valve upside down/shims crushed) as post and videos start to emerge. I didn't open forks on mine yet. Seem that even new 2024 have this issue. Dave any chance you could find out if that's is the case with one you've ridden ? and help to address the issue with Aprilia if there's one. I could provide a link to video and the post if that would of any help.
2024 Atreides Black ordered as a crew bike this week, you are so right, very overlooked for such a great bike.
Excellent. After sitting on the bike Clubby had the other day, I thought this could be a T7 replacement.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV spoilt for choices, yet again. What a great time for new and seasoned riders alike.
@@ride360au So true. One day we will look back on this time as the golden years.
I’ve always been a Honda guy and reliability is huge to me. I took a chance buying the Tuareg due to raving reviews and I couldn’t be happier. 5k miles with zero issues and it’s the best bike I’ve ever owned. On the forums many have far more miles with zero issues it’s a winner deserving more consideration from those who are brand loyal to others.
Bro, great experience you have had. 5k on any motorcycle these days is barely broken in! Glad it’s had no problems
Great to hear.
Reliability was also a primary concern for me, despite positive reviews. The lack of supporting aprillia dealerships and reported slow parts availability (for many brands poat covid) made me hesitant.
@@brettw1518ne ho una con 58.000 km e va meglio ora rispetto a quando era nuova.
@@brettw1518 Only 5km, I was thinking same! Unless he was doing dakar, erzberg or Baja 1000.
I have to be honest: I think that the reviewers are partly to blame for the "the bike is awesome, but overlooked" phenomenon. Yes, every single UA-cam channel was praising the Tuareg in their first reviews in '22... but then over the next few months they stopped talking about it. What I mean is: when the Transalp and the Vstrom800 came out and were reviewed, did anyone say "compared to the Tuareg, the suspension is worse / the electronic package is missing features / the bike is heavier"? No.. it was just back to the old common comparisons to the T7 and 890KTM while the Tuareg just disappeared from the vocabulary of renowned Journalists. So it never really had a chance to make its way into the minds of the community.
Dude I completely agree. There are so many comparison videos from whatever bike vs. the T7. But if they were to throw in the Tuareg, it would murder both on stats. But yep, no mention of it.
They often do this. The KTM 790 Adventure received the highest praise almost everywhere. Then when middle-weight comparisons started coming out later, the KTM was often excluded and sometimes not even mentioned. Instead the comparisons focused on the T700, Transalp, the Tuareg, and later the DE800. UK and US reviews in particular were bad for this. Odd as in the UK the 790 was cheaper or similar price to most of them.
Good point
Interesting
And think about the failing camshafts FB page of the 790/890 and still nobody talked about the Touareg. I haven't ridden one but the 15.000 km problem free is not such a big bragging point. My KTM 950 did that and they didn't call them Keeps Talking Money in vain. I guess people are reluctant because it's Italian.
15k kms since February, literally zero issues, and something that I realized the hard way: this bike is a tough motherfucker and hard to break. I had some good drops in the dirt, and other than some scratches and a broken mirror, it always starts immediately. Outstanding handling and performance, so couldn't be happier with a bike of it's size. Keep up the amazing work guys.
Great to hear
I've dropped mine countless times, even the mirrors have held up and not broken. Only thing is i've bent the handlebar from the bushings, they get soft when dropped alot. Handlebar risers definitely have an effect on that as well. I'm a lightweight guy, under 70kg-s and I can handle it a-okay. Though there of course are situations when I have to drop it on purpose to drag it over obstacles / get it to a better angle for lifting.
@@j0rss totally agree mate.. it was meant to be a Tenere killer, so it had to be tough and hard to break, and it seems it really is
You guys do great reviews, I'm not knocking your video this is just my observations as a guy who really considered a Tuareg 660.
The reason for poor sales is the lack of dealerships and poor rating for Aprilia's customer service. There have been reports of failures by owners that actually ride them hard over long miles for long periods of time, year- year and a half. I'm not saying that it is higher than usual failures across manufacturers but there have been reported failures.
In the end that was why I went with the T7, plenty of dealerships. My clutch/gearbox weren't 100% and Yamaha is replacing it under warranty right now. KTM and Aprilia would have fought me on it, regarding KTM I can speak from experience.
A company can have the best bike on the planet but it comes down to the manufacturer and dealer support that make a true winner.
Agree with dealer support comment
These are the most aussie blokes i have ever heard. Brilliant stuff. About to buy the Toureg and these two lads cemented my decision 👍
Great they are a brilliant bike
My nearest Canadian dealer is 1334 km away
My nearest dealer is in the USA is 730 km away.
Its been 10 yrs since we had a dealer in Winnipeg.
As an astounding coincidence, one day before this video was released, a RSV Mille V- twin passed me by. First time seeing one in ages.
As a T7 owner, the Tuareg ticks all the boxes of what I would want from a T7 upgrade, namely suspension and cruise control
Good points.
Your 100 percent correct, I live in Winnipeg as well and I love the tuareg but with no dealer network around us there is not much point in owning one. I'm in bc right now and I ran into a guy with one. They are beautiful bikes in person. I'll stick with my 701 enduro adv build/te 300 combo as it checks all the boxes for me.
Mc cruise if you want cruise control
I have a 2022 Tuareg and it’s a fantastic bike.
Great to hear.
I am bringing my '22 Tuareg to the first 'big' service @20k km tomorrow.
Couldn't be happier with the bike and would buy it again without hesitation!
Great to hear
Great video production ... having the separate microphones for both guys linked to the left & right stereo output on my laptop sounded like they were on either side of me on the couch!
Good. My first compliment for sound ever
The Aprilia is a brilliant bike no doubt, a guy I know has one and rides the wheels off it.
I’ve also had a test ride and found it to be very good, apart from the engine heat on the tight leg.
The biggest problem for me was I just couldn’t trust it, not like a T7 or an AT.
There have been so many small ish issues reported with it on line you just don’t know if you will be lucky and get a good one or if you will be one of the unlucky ones who have a bike full problems, most small but I’ve seen a few issues with cams and suspension now. The lack of parts is also an issue many are having, waiting weeks and weeks for simple stuff.
It’s a big investment for most people so buying something that is tried and tested as well as trusted makes a difference. Only my option like so don’t hate me 👍😁🏴
Thanks for your thoughts
I think the key thing really is the dealer network unfortunately or at least I'd like to see them take steps to supplement the lack of dealer. For example, my closest aprillia dealer is 3.5hrs away. I do all my own maintenance so it's not a huge deal. I'd hope they'd maybe give me a copy of the service manual, which they might do but I doubt it. I'll be charitable and assume that I won't have to worry about parts and I can order them. But one thing that bugs me is that only dealers can clear service lights, including the oil change light. It's my understanding that's still the case and I just feel like that's a bit silly. I should be able to do that myself.
Good point
This bike has been on my radar...sold my T7 after 2.5 years- great bike but just too top heavy. After watching your review and seeing how the fuel sits lower than the T7 I think it's my next bike. (to sit alongside my 2017 690). We're lucky to have multiple Aprilia dealers here in Denver.
It feels soo much lighter than a T7. The weight is low
Yes, Yamaha needs to modify the design to have a lower centre of gravity.
Looks fantastic in the black and red.
That subframe looks pretty cool too 👍
It bangs.
Hey thanks Dave for this updated post. I've had the Tuareg for 8K miles now, can't say a bad word for it - except finding Neutral is an ongoing battle still, lol. Still having loads of fun on it. Yes, dealer/parts availability as EVERYONE has mentioned, and not having control over turning off the Engine Wrench warning light, are concerns, but my bike is running fine so far, and that's really the crap shoot of all bikes anyway right? Thanks so much for the great follow up on the Tuareg. We needed the love......
Thanks for telling us of your experience
Oil change and clutch cable adjustment made finding neutral much easier. We've got a few other tips on our channel.
@@WyomingFamilyAdventures Thanks for your reply and advice. I've adjusted the clutch cable quite a # of times in the beginning. I found a sweet spot, but when I had the Quick Shifter installed, these adjustments didn't make a difference any longer, and can't see that QS has any meaningful adjustment to make a difference (I could be mistaken). The oil has been changed 3 times now, to no effect. I just live w/ it, finding neutral on the roll to a stop, or rocking the bike a little forward w/ clutch in in first gear, things like that. Frankly, if this is the biggest problem I have to deal w/, I'll take it, lol. Happy riding!
The practicalities & usability of adv bikes with low fuel weight like the Tuareg is such an advantage in proper off road conditions I don’t know why more manufacturers don’t do it…I ride a older adv bike with low fuel weight under the seat when off road it’s so planted, so stable, feels so light I don’t think I’ll ever want a bike with a traditional high set tank as long a I’m riding off road. Tuareg has been on top of my wish list for a while now. Always appreciate your reviews gents 👌🏼
So true! And thanks for the support
I do agree, what a great bike, Best bike ever, I bought my Tuareg because of your 2022 review. Thank you guys, love your work!
I'm glad you did bought it.
5k miles only issue has been a fuel sending unit. Absolutely love this bike. And hey, my 22 KLR had to have a sending unit so don't start that! 7 bikes and the Tuareg is my favorite to pull out for a day of anything goes riding.
Thanks for sharing
26000 km on my 2022 AT660, one thing broken - clutch switch. Replaced under warranty. Cams after 25k km like new. Great, fun bike.
Thanks for sharing
i bought one brand new in Dakar Podium Colours in march while it was on offer for £9400 and i like it so much ive already spent another £1600 or $3100 Australian on outbackmotortek crash bars and bash plate in white and full arrow exhaust system which im still waiting for and a Sprint air filter designed for heavy offroad, and im not going to stop there, its nimble, light cheap to run with a big tank, excellent suspension, quick shifter is silky smooth as is the gearbox, and it inspires so much confidence in the rough stuff, i love it, probably the most comprihensive electronics package for the price in its class, most certainly overlooked.
Thanks for sharing
Their is a US rider that has done “ 16,000 miles “ long term review , he has had a few issues, but predominantly let down by Aprilla dealers - have also heard this from some Australia 660 owners as well . I think a fantastic bike that seems to be let down by dealers and lack of dealers in Australia. BUT I would buy one ☝️ over a CFMOTO 450 , would rather support Europeans than Chinese. Yes twice the money I know . But twice the power , better suspension and travel PLUS cruise control - only mid range ADV with it .
Interesting points.
Had a chance to buy one here in the Pacific Northwest of the USA; it truly ticks many of the middleweight adventure boxes but it was the “unknowns” that gave me pause and I passed.
That's interesting because it is such a sweet package.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Agree, not as bold as I once was :)
I unloaded a flawed Desert-X and picked up one of these to finish up the season. Other than the engine heat and speed above 150km/hr, there is nothing about the Desert-X that was as good as this Tuareg.
Thank you
i try it before 2 years and .....
i choose the T7 !
cheers from Greece !!
OK
Prices are a strange thing.
Here in Switzerland, the Tuareg costs exactly (on the dime) the same as the Transalp, the VStrom and the Tenere (all 11.995 CHF).
While in Aussie-Land it seems to be quite a bit more expensive than those.
I think because of our small market size manufacturers experiment with pricing. That said just about all twin adventure bike currently have huge discounts like up to $5000 in some cases
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Also, the fact that Italy and Switzerland are neighboring countries and not 15.000km apart may play a part as well. 😅
Great bike all around, I just got the Aprilia hard pannier racks system for the back so i can fit the hard panniers from my Guzzi on it. This bike can be an American open roads traveler as well as an adventure do it all. I can put on soft saddle bags on or the hard ones if I want and then unload it so I can go have fun on the trails.
That said..I just came back from a 400 miles + ride in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan today and; I took my Honda 300CRF Rally for it. There’s a lot of sand up there and we were not camping so the CRF was the better choice.
At this time of the year (in the U P) they get ready for the upcoming winter so the snowmobiling season is the next thing to get ready for on the trails. So, the graders are outhere loosening everything up and getting rid of washboard etc. So, you never know what you will encounter as you ride; hence a light bike is the better choice when you have to duck paddle for a half mile here and there.
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Thanks
T7 always the benchmark (🤔wonder why) build quality, reliable, affordable, support Australia wide - say no more !
Top heavy and crappy standard front suspension and I own one
Ive been looking at motorcycles, a Tuareg wasn't even on my radar, as ot doesn't really come up many uk reviews, but it was the only bike that gave me the wow factor when i first saw it. When you look into the bike there is lots to like about, as you say its very underated, ive always loved underated motorcycles. I'm sure there are lots of aftermarket accessories. ( not overpriced factory stuff) Thete os a dealer within 20miles, i have heard parts can be hard to get, something to look into.
Thank you
Actually, the blame is not on the consumers for overlooking the Aprilia. The issue is their poor dealership representation. Here in South Africa the distributer folded and now all the Tuareg owners are stranded without support and nobody wants to purchase their previously owned bikes.
That's sad, when you've got such a good bike.
I am not saying that you are wrong. Such a bad (nonexisting) dealer support is of course a huge problem. The strange thing is: where I live, there a lots and lots of Aprilia dealers... probably more than Honda or Yamaha. And still: over the last 2 years I have seen only 2 Tuaregs on the road (or off the road for that matter).
I actually bought one of those very bikes recently here in Cape Town... 2022 model, 2500kms on the clock, not a single dealer in the country, was quite worried about the potential risk and costs, but watching this video now at this point I feel very pleased with myself. Hou duim vas vir my ;)
We pay too much for the Tuareg in Australia compared to what they cost in other regions. Tuareg is $12k in USA - in Australia it's $US16k - then add on the lack of authorised service and parts available in Australia and it's just not a sensible choice for many. If I lived in the USA I'd take the risk - but not in Australia. We pay far too much for the Yamaha Tenere 700 in Australia as well - but at least service and parts are readily available.
Thanks for your thoughts
I've had this bike on the radar for some time to buy, one of the factors that has held me back are the on going issues with dealers. You've only pay attention to every second post and it puts the dealers (or lack of) in the gun.
Thanks
Buy it at a decent dealer then 😅
Can confirm, the bike is awesome.
Great to hear
a year on, 12.000km and zero issues, only smiles.
Great to hear
Another great video! I currently ride a 2017 KTM 1090R for easy off-road and fast pavement rides, but currently looking for a fully equipped 2013 KTM 990 Adventure. If a new bike was on the table, the Aprilia Tuareg would be my choice.
Yep I’m with you on that
I did test ride the Tuareg 2 weeks ago. Great bike in many respects, but the big problem in my opinion is the engine characteristics.. no punch down low and in the middle, which is not what I expect from an ADV bike. Maybe this turns off many potential buyers
I thought power delivery was good. It's not an 890.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I guess it comes down to personal taste.. for me the Tuareg with the engine of the Suzuki Vstrom 800 DE would be perfect
Doubble standards in a nutshell.
Chinese motorcycles - no one knows about reliability, small dealer network. No problem - selling like a hot cupcakes.
Aprilia - brand with a history, legacy, great reviews from almost every journalist. Sales are struggling because of reliability and small dealer network 🤦🏻 crazy world.
Good point
Price is more important than ever right now. People are being squeezed with inflation and increased mortgage rates. 24k is a lot to risk on a bike with bad dealer support and questionable reliability. $9.5k for a 450mt, thats the deposit on a Tuareg finance. People are realising they don’t need the best and greatest bike for the one ride a month they can get out and do. If you are a gun rider with money to spare then great, get a Tuareg, but that isn’t the reality for most Australians right now
@@slakk5093 Sure, inflation is a pain in the ass everywhere in the World and i totally understand that at the moment people are searching value more then ever. Still, I don’t buy this hype about chinese motorcycles and anti hype towards Tuareg reliability.
We don’t need to compare Tuareg vs 450MT because of the price difference, I believe Tuareg is in different category then 450MT, you have other models to compare - Honda 500x, KTM390 adventure, etc. vs 450MT, you can add Royal enfield and Triumph scrambler 400 as well. If people are bragging about dealers network and reliability, they already have bulletproof models/companies to choose from at the same price category. So why to go chinese? And i’m not even talking about political point of view, which in my mind as well is very important. I just don’t get it from a rational point of view.
P.s. i’m not Tuareg owner, i’m riding T7.
The specs and reviews have always been great for this bike. Unfortunately, I couldn't get one for a test ride from any of the dealer in Sydney. The dealers rely on preorders from riders that were buying them based on online reviews and specs, not a ride.
That's terrible isn't it. I would never buy a bike without riding one first. I can spend all day telling you how good it is, but you ultimately have to see and feel for yourself. I once bought a bike from the hype, an XR250 Prolink. We never got on and it soon left the garage. The only consolation, you wouldn't have that problem with the Tuareg, it's a cracking bike.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Absolutely. That is one aspect of buying/ownership that is seldom overlooked. I am pretty sure Aprilia is a solid option, in my case BMW was the only manufacturer that treated me as if they wanted my business. Yamaha dealer couldn't provide a World Raid for test ride. I put my deposit down for the BMW as that was the only motorcycle I could test ride.
I know these bikes aren't that old but I read the comments here and I will say do you know how stupid it looks when people write 7k or 10k and no problem.. seriously that's it's first service. Come back at 50 or 100k and tell me.
Exactly. I have ridden more than 500.000 km on Japanese bikes without a single issue. That's a track record. Almost new bikes shouldn't have issues at all.
The bike has been out a couple of years now. Time for gremlins to emerge. It hearing much.
Yes I'm one of the ppl who put a comment 7k in 8moths, but I owned Honda AT and at this milage I it was burning 500ml oil every 1k miles. Had it from new and I did do engine braking as recomended by Honda. Another example V Strom 650 xt 19 model throtle bodies issues. Let's be honest if bike was made in 1990 - 2000 maybe bit later on I will agree with your statement but all the new bikes a bit of hit and miss. Another thing is that how many ppl keeps bikes until 50k yet 100k ? in Uk if you bike has that many miles regardles of brand is dificult to sell. I keep bikes 3-4 years as I want to ride as many bikes as I can during my life time. All my bikes before were Japanese and I don't regret buying Tuareg even if I have to fit new engine in it. Fun factor out of the box and overall package is - for me at least - almost twice as good as it is on T7.
@@gregs7194 I don't care if your Honda fell apart as the dealer wheeled it out. This has nothing to do with the stupid comments about I have ridden this bike 7k miles and had no issues. You say this like people should be impressed. I find it laughable.
So far, biggest mileage I have seen on this bike was 70k km (~43k miles) in two years, issue free. One guy posted info on FB that he is swapping his unit and taking also Tuareg 660, but new, from 2024. That's how much he liked it.
On other forums and groups there are people showing their bikes that have 50-60 thousand kms (30 - 40 thousand miles) without any problems. So it looks decent I would say.
And still, this bike is available for just two years, people simply hadn't enough time to put bigger mileage on theirs.
I was surprised to see one for each year they've been imported at a dealer in the city. They were at a multi-marque dealer with KTM, Yamaha, Honda and CF Moto. There are a lot of Italians in Montreal, but even the Ducati dealer in the Italian Quarter is not a large volume.
I don't see many ADV in urbania. I've seen one of: 650GS, 800GS, 850GS, BigGS, T7, Tuareg, DR650.
Maybe to urban where you are
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV yes, there's definitely more where they also sell snowmobiles
It comes down to support. Aprillia/Moto guzzi dealerships are as scarce as hens teeth. The closet dealer to me is 300 miles away. Most people want a place to turn to for repair and service. Great bikes mostly, horrible network.
Any Piaggio dealer?
A consistent theme on these posts
It is neither underrated nor overlooked, because every fooker and his dog keeps telling you how great it is. And great it may be, but you hear about silly problems all the time and as a result it gets ignored, maybe more than it should.
100% agree
Couldn't agree more. I have tested it. Great bike. But even my test bike which was brand new already revealed major quality issues. That's the reason why people do not buy it. End of story. It's about consistency. AT and T7 for the win.
Thanks
7k miles on, more than half done on UK TET in 8 moths and no issues. But there may be out of factory problem with forks compression and rebound (valve upside down/shims crushed) as posts on forums and videos start to emerge. I didn't open forks on mine yet. Seems that even new 2024 have this issue. Dave any chance you could find out if that's is the case with one you've ridden ? and help to address the issue with Aprilia if there's one. I could provide a link to video and the post if that would of any help.
I’m onto the next story
Great bike, only reason I can see for sales not booming is its not 120hp, 70 of which isn't needed especially off road or if you want to keep licence.
Good point
Perun moto is the tail rack to get for the Tuareg. I have it on mine.
Thank you
Same here!
Loved the sound when full noise just happens, but first of anything is a no-go. also I didn't get one the as the dealer net work is good enough in the city, but out in the bush !!! 660 for 23+k bit rich. F900 at 25+k better option... (no I don't have one)
Thanks for sharing yeah Beemer 900 is a consideration
This will be a great test, they look and sound like an impressive bike. Not sure why more are not on the road.
I can't understand it.
I own one and I will say one reason for people who are paying attention to the service intervals is valve adjustments. Also due to the engine design, specialized tools needed (there are some ways around this), and both cams needing to come out if adjustment is needed this is a VERY expensive service (around $2200 - $2500 US). This service also happens nearly twice as often as some modern motors which do not require valve adjustment until you reach 20K or more miles. It is a fun bike to ride though, particularly for the size.
The front suspension needs a bit of sorting out. A lot of owners are reporting fork shims bent or smashed to bits (in my case) for those that have been opened up even with only a few hundred miles of moderate riding on the clock. I was not entirely happy with the front suspension feel in general, but it is similar to what is used on the base DesertX so there is a bit more info on tuning it now as that bike is rather popular. The rear shock is bog standard and easy to tune (I did the K-Tech adventure piston for the Tenere since these are shared parts). I did eventually go to a full Ohlins setup which I am in the process of getting tuned now.
On the other side of the pond we are also seeing some fine dust make it past the stock setup so the Uni or the pre that Uni makes (or both) are probably a good idea.
A drop on the left side commonly leads to the shifter bolt being snapped off in a way that you will need an easy-out to remove it. I know about half a dozen folks (myself included) that have experienced that issue. I did both the aftermarket steel shifter and a titanium replacement bolt. The right side brake pedal also uses the same bolt, but it does not stick out as far so it seems to be less of a problem. I did the aftermarket steel brake pedal and titanium replacement bolt for the right side as well to hedge my bets.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV maybe people are worried about support? Not many dealers or mechanical repair shops that work on them, not sure, but road bikes had that issue years ago, parts support and finding someone to repair them was an issue, not sure that's an issue nowadays.
Excellent William thanks for this information from a users perspective. As we always say, we ride this bikes during their new honeymoon period. You still like so that's a good sign.
Thanks Scott
Hi Dave, Clubby, good engine mate, Power delivery good but the air intakes get me, they have the air scoops for the filters from the front of the bike ye I think, prone for scooping water and dust into it ye. 👋🤠👍
I haven't heard of that being an issue.
Every air filter scoops dust lol. Isn't it it's job? The easy access at the top makes maintenance a breeze. Try that on a Ducati 😅. Honestly mine never sucked water, even under heavy rain
In a world where run out Africa twins sell for $20K, the Tuareg and my favourite , the AJP PR7 are too expensive. The Chinese and Indian models coming in at half the price are selling well.
Interesting times
Can't say I've ever heard of it till this vid, it's just not a well marketed bike. Would like to give it a go myself.
Great specs and an excellent ride
Dave, would you trade in your tenere for one?
Very good question. My heart keeps the T700 in the garage. Once you sit on this, and realise what comes standard your head starts to rule. That's why I don't sit on it for too long. :)
Gee that felt like the shopping channel. Was that a paid advertisement? From an owner - yes it's a great bike. Best real adv bike on the market. Parts availability from dealers in useless. Best to have a spare bike if you plan to have too much fun and break it occasionally. Do not buy one if you plan to commute in summer. Even with a cat delete this is one seriously hot bike. Great in winter and the colder months though.
@@volvogt21 all these guys “reviews” are like that, they never really say anything too bad about a bike. Don’t wanna jeopardise those long term test bikes or release junkets I guess.
We always loved it. Great to hear the views from an owner
@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 yes I'd have to agree. It's a bit like the days of advertising in mags. Their products were always great when tested. Plus the junkets and freebies these guys get is unbelievable. Have you seen the free gear they get!!!!! My mate has a channel which I won't name and loves all the gear he gets sent by klim etc even though he re tons their gear is crap. Wears it a couple of times then sells it. Lol.
Taking a chance on a bike that's gonna be my lifeline in the wild is not something I'll choose to do. T7 all the way.
Ok
Great bike especially for the money, 8000 miles zero issues. So glad I didn't buy the T7
Good choice!
As to why it's not more popular, from what I have read (in the US) it is largely due to concerns for reliability and parts availability (lack of dealers across the US).
There seems to be a theme there.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV It is unfortunate. I know a guy who has one and he really likes it.
Im amazed there is a lams version too. I wonder why yamaha doesnt do a lams t7? They do a lams mt07, so they have the motor for it.
Yep
24k on road and only one dealer in South Australia (a dealer with a bad rep). Never seen one on the road here
Thanks
Hey Dave hymalain 450 scrambler out soon
Yeah...
Great Tuareg. We have a motorcycle stereo that can connect to 2 helmets, with a compass and barometer, which would be perfect for you. Looking forward to working with you. How can I contact you?🏍
I considered it. It looks great, but I struggled with the value. It's 90% of the money of a Tiger 900 and compared to that, there's a laundry list of features the Aprilia doesn't have.
I felt they were competitive
Like what features? Extra weight and boring the engine?
Looks like a nice ship!! I wonder if the saying that "All Italian machines are assembled after a 2-hour liquid lunch holds true?? lol...
I don’t know
I love the bike but the price by the time you add the necessary protection bits and pieces like a proper bash plate, heated grips made it expensive and uncompetitive. Now the F900 is out, I'd say it'll be a harder stretch to go with it
Thanks for your thoughts
No local dealers would be my guess. My nearest dealer is over 300 km away and in another state.
There’s a theme there
The better marketing sold both the T7 & the 790/890, T7 - Pol Tarres, ARiemann1 and 790/890 - Chris Birch. Need I say more?
Good point. Adam Reiman is supported by Yamaha so you’re showing your age.
Good points... but to add, last year, the Tuareg won the 13 stage Africa Eco Race (the old Dakar) w/ 0 issues, and beat Tarres/T7 that had 2 issues. Too bad that story has yet to be carried. Your point about marketing - so true. So many great bikes!
The Tuareg could've done so well here in India but they decided to price it the same as the Tiger 900 Rally Pro and Ducati Desert X. No one would pay that for a 660cc when they'll get more bang for the buck from the bigger bikes and better service network. Bringing it via the CBU route was an epic mistake. Can't imagine who at Aprilia India approved this strategy. The 600cc ADV segment is not existent except for the Versys 650 and Tiger 660 Sport, both which are not true ADVs.
Thank you for your perspective
Have they fixed the suspension issues? Something with components being installed wrong.
Don’t know
Looks the goods but there is only one dealer in West Oz and it's over a 2 hour drive to get there for me .
10,000 km service interval, so a ride every now and again.
Unifilter is standard from the dealer now.
Great to hear
The headlight is what does it. So many people cannot get over the ugliness of the headlight to even try riding it to see how good of a bike it really is.
Not sure about that.
FYI, Aprila Tuareg won the Africa Eco Race
It was on the video
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Really? I missed that in the video. I'd just left the Eco Race comment on another comment. The Tuareg had 0 issues in that race and the second place T7 had 2, lol.
You don't need to sell it to us... it's not flying off the showroom floors because it's a 660cc bike @ 24,000 dollars..that's what Stopped me! That is Mad!
@@glenncarpenter7422 yep, what’s crazier is that it’s cheaper than the world raid. I’d love a world raid but 25k is ridiculous.
MADTV love it
No hate for the Aprilia. But Jacopo is the reason that bike won the africa eco race. Hes inhuman. And one of the most insane riders of our time was racing against him on a gross foot 😂. Pol and Botturi put in work on the T7's
If you ride this bike back to back with a T7, there's no doubt the Tuareg feels way more "racey." Not saying one rider is or isn't better than the other. But I think if you put the same person on both bikes, the Tuareg will definitely have faster lap/test times.
Maybe but the bike shits all over a Tenere in terms of standard features
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV yeah that too! The Tuareg is more aggressive and better spec'd
Fun fact: During Eco race: Tuareg had 0 mechanicals, T7 had 2. 13 days of racing, desert/sand/camels, lol.
0:56 ---> simple ---> reliability ...
Nope don't agree.
You guys are super late on this....and wrong. It got top reviews and is selling well.....
No we were super early. We did the first review years ago when it first came out. You really should have listened to what we said we said it was good. Are you on another planet?
The reason for lack of sales is quite similar to all the lineup.
Almost complete lack of sales and customer support from Piaggio group leads to loss of market. This has lead to low potential customer pot and all the keyboard cowboys killing the product even before it hits the road. And then we have the "adv" crowd. Comparing this machine to T7.
It is better technically and ergonomically in every aspect. It is also better stylewize for inteded purpose. But would I recommend it to one of our clients - NO. The utter shit ot lacking parts support and service support even in europe kills this bike as an "adventure" bike. Just a weekend warrior for short burst of fun.
And i LOVE this bike. If there was room to spare, I would get it for myself too. But as something to be sold in thousands - not the way Piaggio is handling/managing the market. sadly.
Great hearing from a seller of bikes
This is why I'm considering the Suzuki 800DE
No dealers equals no deals.
A theme is running here
I think some forget that to some, certainly me, looks are very important, and being able to make a bike ‘my bike’ is important . Bikes like the Tuareg and the Vstrom might actually be great bikes but I’m not gonna touch them with a barge pole if they are ugly and I can’t bling it up to how I want it. The Tuareg is pig ugly, same for the Vstrom, and no blinging up those bikes is gonna do it for me. Bikes like the T7 have an air about them, there’s something that stirs the soul - the Tuareg…. Nah…
I get that.
It’s really simple….. PRICE and dealer network (or lack thereof)
I’m hearing you
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV dealer closest to me has a “ride away price” of $25,200 😳😳😳. That’s more expensive than a 900 Triumph 🧐🧐🧐
Only my personal opinion, I just think it's overpriced. To me it's a 20k bike. Should also have cornering ABS. But agreed a great bike. Sadly lots comment on the poor dealer network and attitude. Does not so the brand and favours.
Thanks for your thoughts
And what are most people going to buy? A T7! I see one almost every ride as of late. I saw three together last weekend. Two at my hotel two weeks ago. I've seen two Transalps. Some new KLRs. Zero Tuaregs. People want Japanese.
Good observation
Don't speak for all of us, I bought Italian and no regrets!
Not overlooked, the reliability is not there.
Still way more reliable than KTM and so far there are no big issues in the field.
Don’t agree. There are bikes out there at present that are loved and they don’t deserve it
@@Almechoseems to be an "urban legend" at this point, people are afraid of Italian bikes, because Ducati in the 80's 😊
Would never buy a k t m cam shafts Are grinding to a pulp.
Most of the dealerships here have dropped Aprilia and Moto guzzler this mob called Royal Enfield seems to be giving the other manufacturers a bit of a headache now with CFMoto is game on.
Sure is
what about reliability? can she write 100 000 kms stress free on the ground?
We need to hear from riders on that issue
That's why you buy a boring KLR 😅
@@SuperCheesyMan kawa doesnt sell klr in europe for years.
the last bike youd own once warranty finishes
The people that own them aren’t saying that
We've have 2 featured on our channel that we've had for over a year now and no intention to trade them any time soon. So far they've been as reliable as any other bike I've had. I'll definitely post on our channel if there are any issues.
I like CFmoto 450 MT more.
Ok
Overpriced in AU and under supported by a lack of dealers. Try getting support for any mechanical issues 100km or 1000km from major cities on the coast in AU. Zero factory support. Love to see someone try wheeling their busted Tureg into the local bike mechanic in Longreach and see how they go. Classic case of a brand staying they aren't supported but do little to support their customers. Classic chicken or egg.
I don’t agree they’re overpriced considering the specs. Dealer availability seems to be an issue but then again not many brands are supported in long reach
I found the engine boring, and forks dived excessively under not much front brake, and the intake noise was obnoxious. Ergos and weight were good, but I went with a Suzuki 800DE instead
The 800 is an excellent bike.
I think they are expensive for a 660
You need to look at the specs. I think it is a pretty good deal.
T7 is expensive, for what you get. If you add the cheapest suspension upgrade to T7 you are 10% higher than Tuareg and you still do not get a better handling motorcycle.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I agree that the specs are great, cruise control etc. The cost is the limiting factor for me. There are a lot of great reliable bikes out there for the $24K. Thanks for all your videos.
Its poor distributorship...
Is no solution and its not cheap for this option.
That’s definitely a factor
Sounds like a paid promotion video to me
Are you paying Matt? Sounds like you haven’t been on MADTV before.
Great bike crap dealership back up and parts, That's why they don't sell, Yes I own a V4 Tuono and love the brand.
Thanks for sharing
Easy, Piaggio, who are very poor.
Athletic, great personality but for my taste it's ugly. When you spend that much money it's got to appeal to all the senses.
A couple have said that
I think the Aprilia looks great.
I've never thought one way or the other on it's looks, but I do have one, and I have to tell you I've had people come up to me and take pictures of it because they thought it was so great looking, lol. Go figger!! (I have the tri-color '23 model)
It's pig ugly, I reckon that'd hurt the sales numbers.
I like it
Not underrated. Unreliable….
mine just celebrated it's 2 years anniversary and has been problem free ....
mine has been super reliable....and awesome to ride
Great to hear.
Excellent
7k miles on, more than half done on UK TET in 8 moths and no issues. But there may be out of factory problem with forks compression and rebound (valve upside down/shims crushed) as post and videos start to emerge. I didn't open forks on mine yet. Seem that even new 2024 have this issue. Dave any chance you could find out if that's is the case with one you've ridden ? and help to address the issue with Aprilia if there's one. I could provide a link to video and the post if that would of any help.
That's because it's unreliable and overpriced. You are better off with Tiger.
Unreliable? Not seeing evidence of that
Ah yes, the most reliable motorbike maker - Triumph. Not sure where are you based but here in UK but Tiger is more expensive by 3-4k GB
Overlooked & Underrated? Seems to be top rated by most reviews I have seen... Under-supported? Maybe, but only because of limited dealers
By riders, not testers.
Love the look, but for me, the T7 still wins my money
Fair enough