Your video Indigenous History of Seattle popped up in my feed after searching for videos on Alaska Native and PNW Native American history. I've never subscribed to a UA-cam channel so fast after discovering yours the other day. I saw your recent channel update video and was eagerly awaiting the next upload. I cried a lot during this one. I guess I didn't fully grasp how horrific and intentional the mistreatment of native people was. Although I'm mostly European, I am also Alaska Native and Blackfoot, which I identify with most. It's like I have this part of me that is Native to the core and long for the way we lived in harmony with the land. I frequently say I feel as though I was born too late. But then again I'm glad I don't have to eat raw fish eyes 😅 This video was captivating, illuminating, as well as heartbreaking at times. I appreciate your candid, no bullshit approach to the narration. I watched it all the way through in one sitting, even re-watched a couple parts, pausing to read some of the additional information. Will definitely watch it again and pause it to read what I missed. Well done! I'm so happy to have such a great rare resource to learn Native American history from!
Siyo! I'm Cherokee & this video was amazing imho. Got recommended from Ancient Americas channel because I'm always so excited to see in depth material about pretty much anything pre-columbian/native centric. I think you did a great job presenting everthing accurately and not glossing over the terrible genocidal acts as many often do. As for future topics, I'm personally biased towards anything to do with mound builder/SECC topics, especially how they morphed into the current tribal cultures we see today. And in a more niche direction; tattoo practices, clothing production/styles, and North/Central California Natives (I'm from Sacramento and the knowledge of Native peoples here is Abysmal sadly). Looking forward to all the channel brings and thanks so much for your hard work ❤
hiii big fan here. in the intro w/terms, you could more explicity make clear that First Nations/ American Indian/Native American is not synonymous with Indigenous. Indigeniety describes a class/social relation, while First Nations describes a racial/ethnic grouping of national groupings. First Nations and Indigenous are describing different layers of social being. Colonial and European arent the same thing, neither are European and Anglo. Awesome video, very cool that it starts with beringia!!
Oh, I’ve not heard this distinction before between First Nations and Indigenous. Could you explain a bit more? You can shoot me an email if you want indigenoushistorynow@gmail.com
@IndigenousHistoryNow Very much appreciate you extending your email. There's lowercase indigenous, commonly used to refer to things that are native but that is somewhat imprecise. In Indigenous scholarship, we capitalize the word Indigenous to distinguish between popular use typically used to mean "from a place originally," and from Indigenous scholarship use meaning "Holds colonial social relation." For example, First Nations people in "Canada" and Black people in "postcolonial" Africa are both Indigenous groups because of their relationship to colonialism. First Nations is an ethnic category basically, while Indigenous is a politically category. Would you like me to send a email with some relevant source when I have time?
Yes that would be lovely, thank you. I was familiar with the use of Indigenous as a political category, but I was not aware that First Nations was used differently. Thank you for educating me.
@IndigenousHistoryNow no worries! First Nations Status as a legal thing is inherited by birth while Indigenous should precisely be understood (imo which is the correct one I'm pre sure) as a mutable political category. Where Indigenous people liberated from colonialiam/the relations of colonialism have ended, Indigenous people cease to be Indigenous but they continue to be whatever ethnic/national/linguists group they are :)
For the most part in Latin America Indian and indigenous are insults but are still used in an official capacity so it varies from person to person. And as an indigenous person myself I have preferred indigenous the entire time but I also know some have been turning away from that term for nuanced political reasons but I still prefer it over Indian
@@IndigenousHistoryNow no collective names no, just clan and tribe names if you're referring to them and there ppl but I still think indigenous is a good collective term to describe our ppl that experienced American colonization
Interesting. I was recently asking my coworkers if they, as Mexicans, identified as indigenous Americans… I didn’t know this aspect . Thanks for sharing
Basically ALL these terms are wrongi including the term, indigenous, ultimately when someone asks what you are just telling them your cultural name is more appropriate than anything else. I tell people my culture name which is Panshi Falaya Chahta from Louisiana and Mississippi and Sixika from Alberta Canada. Things are changing some faster than others but changing nonetheless. Yokoke am akana'.
@@hilohahoma4107 thank you for speaking to me I'm Ki'che Maya and Pol Slavic. And while I understand the importance of your point I just think it's still beneficial to have a term for referring to the people's of Turtle Island that suffered under European colonialism. And that share a similar experience of land loss, ghettoisation, forced assimilation, and directly suffer from the existence of European liberal states
I'm not an Indigenous American- I'm not even an American of European descent- I'm a Welsh-speaking Welshman, but I'm incredibly interested in the histories and languages of the Indigenous people of the continent. My interest was sparked by the myth (i.e. Something that isn't true) of Madog ab Owain Gwynedd 'discovering' and settling in what we'd now call the US, via the Saint Laurence river, a tall tale made up by Welsh folks who were trying to gain favour in the English state by using the tale to justify English claims on the American continent. Bards, our most renowned cultural keepers, wrote various poems and songs about this supposed event (I'll put them here and translate them) : Wele’n cychwyn dair ar ddeg, O longau bach ar fore teg; Wele Madog ddewr ei fron, Yn gapten ar y llynges hon. Mynd y mae i roi ei droed, Ar le na welodd dyn erioed: Antur enbyd ydyw hon, Ond Duw a’i dal o don i don. See them sailing, ten-on-three, Those little ships on the dark blue sea, See old Madog, brave his chest, As captain of the ship is dressed, Go he is to plant his foot Where never before a foot was put. This is a venture very brave But God will guide him from wave to wave. In the 19thC, Welsh Americans set out to try to find the tribe that this mythical Madog supposedly came in contact and settled down with. They went around various tribes trying to communicate with them in Welsh and some of these guys said they'd found the tribe and although they didn't speak Welsh, they claimed that the Indigenous people had borrowed Welsh words from the settlers. You'll see these word lists, comparing indigenous words with Welsh ones, floating around the Internet, but 9 times out of ten, the supposedly Indigenous and Welsh words will have been made up by people who speak neither an indigenous American language nor Welsh. Tldr, I'm writing this comment to warn any Welsh or Americans of Welsh descent that the entire story of Madog is completely untrue (something I've been very careful to emphasise throughout the post- couldn't have made made it clearer that 1) this is a myth that was invented in the 17thC. 2) Indigenous Americans didn't just spawn in when the Vikings and Columbus showed up- they (Indigenous Americans) have always been there (and I hope that their languages, cultures, religions and people are in my own language's words Yma o hyd.). 3) Indigenous people do not exist to be exotic literary devices in people's literature. As aforementioned, they have their own languages which they are reinvigorating and reviving, their own cultures, their own wills. The point of this comment was to dispel a myth that exists in my own culture (which is also a minority).
A lot of claims there, so let's get some credibility going: I am a high school English, Social Studies, History and Second Language teacher. I have a BA in social science with an emphasis on indigenous and paleo-psychology. I have a masters degree in Psychology and 4 interstate USA secondary school teaching credentials. I am published with 2 of the universities I attended. I have worked directly with native north Turtle Island for decades. So, your "history" of anecdotes and oral narratives is fraught with difficulties. First, there is no validation for any of your claims about the history and cultural of our mutual ancestral lands, the British Isles and Scandinavia, or, simply Northwestern EUROPE, the continent to which that land mass currently belongs. Millions of years ago the mountains in England were in fact connected to the mountains in New England. 30 thousand years or so ago, and likely before that, the North American continent was invaded by hominid species from both Atlantic and Pacific coasts and the North Pole. European migration from northern France predates the last ice age, with spearheads and tools found in mid-west Canada. Ojibwa-Chippewa land, also an ancestor of mine. There is no archeological evidence of ancient pre-Columbian Welsh in the northeast, but Vikings did spend tome there before Columbus found the Arawaks in the Caribbean. But a nice translation of an old poem. The Irish have a legend of a monk named Bryan (sp.) who sailed east similarly to Lief Erikson from Norway area. There are no lost tribes of Israel of anywhere except in Palestine. The lost tribes of this continent are so because of European and particularly British, cultural genocide.
Scandinavians were not the first eastern migration cultures. They were among a lot of exploring human type animals that came here from Africa and the Middle East. Up to 1.75 million years before the last ice age. All based on up to 2024 evidence available to anyone who can find it.
@@billsadler3 Idk, man, you kind of destroyed any credibility you were trying to convey by bringing up lost tribes of Isreal or whatever. All I said is that the Welsh didn't end up in America before the Norse, that they didn't mingle with the Indigenous peoples and teach Welsh to them. And that the tale of Madog ab Owain Gwynedd isn't true considering the guy didn't exist. Idk why you're bringing the lost tribes of Israel into this
Man, this is one of my favorite videos on the internet. I will definitely come back to this video just to watch and listen to the whole thing again. Great video, dude!
Terms: Primal Peoples of the North American Continent will cover all the names listed. Indigenous Eco-Terran Hominid might also pass. What is most important, as you mentioned, is check with the recipient. Me, I just call people by their first name, friend, and nowadays with the subject matter, Hey Cousin!
Sooooo much valuable information in this video I love it! Well love in a sense of how well you made it, less so for the emotions I felt (mostly red hot rage). My favorite parts were your real examples of land being given back and everything pre-American expansion (at most in school I can remember the mention of indigenous "Hunter gatherer societies" and a few tribe name drops).
These groups supporting Native women who disappear, or are assaulted need to be supported, that is disgusting this is allowed to be so rampant! That's heart breaking honestly...
Overall, with the exception of several ommisions and misnomers in regards to the stories attributes and other cultural points I look at this compilation of our peoples horrific experience with foreign intervention as pretty concise. I would imagine that to attempt to cover the whole story of us original Turtle Islanders experiences against euro encroachment is a very daunting task. Thank you for attempting to tell this story. ❤
On the point of the megafaunal extinction, I disagree strongly with the hypothesis that climate change was the complete cause of the End-Quaternary extinctions in the Americas. There were previously in the Pleistocene much more rapid and intense periods of climate change (Eemian interglacial for example) that did not lead to any largescale megafaunal extinctions. Instead what I feel is more likely is that following the warming at the start of the Holocene said megafauna's species ranges (in many, but not all cases) were reduced to refugia, causing them to have a smaller population size, and subsequently allowing humans to hunt them into extinction. The climate change alone wouldn't have been enough to cause the extinctions in my opinion, so I think it was a sort of combo effect
Another factor to consider is the possibility of an impact event. The Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis has also been gaining in popularity amongst archaeologists and geologists recently, and that would be something that made the late Quaternary climate change different from other periods of Pleistocene climatic shifts.
Yeah, the bison hunters used to run such massive quantities of animals off of those cliffs that they would end up just burning the vast majority of the bodies and not even using them. Hunter-gatherers, the world round, had no qualms about over exploitation.
Hunter gatherer societies do have many qualms about overexploitation, they do their best to avoid it whenever possible. This has been thoroughly and repeatedly documented. Sometimes, though, waste is unavoidable. Hunts using bison jumps could produce a lot more dead bison than people needed or could process. This is because once you get a bison herd to stampede, you can’t stop it, and you can’t control how many animals jump off the cliff. This hunting technique, however, was used only occasionally. It was a big operation that took lots of people to pull off properly and safely (not to mention that it can only be done in certain areas and with certain sizes of herd). This was a special occasion technique, not your everyday hunt. Other techniques that are less wasteful (like isolating a few bison from the herd, or stampeding a herd into a corral) were used far more frequently.
Thank you so much for this video! I've loved your videos, especially on the North Western Cultures, but I'm looking forward to seeing anything you're going to cover in the future! ...And wow, I have no words as to how horrifying the whole colonial history of the Americas is just so nightmarishly horrible that I don't even have words.... I'm from Finland myself, so I didn't learn anything about this in school....
@@oogawa13kokomi do you think using Native American / Indigenous American is better then or would it be Indian? Or is it honestly just a matter of preference
@blinkrush6101 are you indigenous to an area that is not the Americas? Honestly it really is a matter of preference but it would still be incorrect to use the term Indian simply because India is it's own identity and many see using that misnomer as continuing the colonial idea of stripping indigenous people of their identities/existence and it'd best to identify with specific tribes/nations. If one doesn't know where their ancestors are from, they're known as "displaced". So many unfortunate events have happened to so many indigenous people, groups and individuals where their identity was forcibly stripped it's no surprise many do not know. Indigenous is indigenous and just because someone is displaced doesn't make them any less native genetically & ancestrally. BUT there is a common thing where people will rumor a "native ancestor" be it a Cherokee princess or whatever and have 0 ties at all to indigenous people. Those are called "pretend-ians." The term Indian is still used but mostly lightheartedly by folks who already know where they come from
I watched part of this with my grandfather and he talked about how similar the boarding schools were with the schools he went to in Hawaii. That side of our family is native Hawaiian Portuguese. Amazing video. I learned a lot.
In The USA Alaska the Amerindians had lots of racial and or ethnic conflicts with Eskimos And Aleutians also known as Aleuts before Western Eurasians came yeah.
@@spicyphilly You could by typing in Bloody Falls Massacre as well as Inuit Cree Reconciliation as well as Between Two Worlds Inuits And Crees etc yeah.
Being Indigenous, specifically Aniyunwiya, and taught our language by my grandparents. I've lost more family than we've replaced over the last 50 years. Though that's just the way it goes. At least, being a guy, I wasn't sterilized like many of my sisters were thanks to IHS. CREEPY F'ING DOCTORS! I may have more to say later.
Sounds like today's schools learned from it... Not any positive lessons though:( This is why I'm a partner in his education. He gets his classwork and I expand on things where needed.
new casinos nearer population centers along freeway corridors are putting older casinos out of business in sonoma and mendocino counties with incumbent hard feelings between tribal polities
Bravo! 🙌 Even though you are not indigenous and you cannot know/feel the pain of real indigenous ancestry history without living it, nonetheless you have a done a real fine job of exposing and enlightening people of the scope of atrocities committed against indigenous turtle islanders! I appreciate you taking a stab at such a complex and diverse tapestry of injustice hatred genocide ethnic cleansing land theft and sorrow left by colonizing forces... It is much like modern day Palestine and also other parts of the world where big business/corporatists/globalists royal and religious hierarchy appropriates lands people and resources to expand and gain more wealth and power. They (indigenous turtle islanders) have survived, Palestinians will survive and humanity will survive whats coming for all mankind if we choose love and forgiveness... These unholy perpetrators will be stopped and their system demolished never to be resurrected. Justice will occur, tears will dry and rejoicing will take place! A'ho and Halleluyah! Someday...
Good video, I just disagree with your conclusion that humans weren't what drove the megafauna extinct. I get that it wasnt necessarily anyone's fault, and we can't blame modern people for the actions of their ancestors, but this is a big thing among less scientifically literate people. If someone like an average american who hated science class hears that we didn't kill the mammoths they can easily lump it in with the stuff saying we dont need to worry about how we affect the environment. Also people believing that we certainly didn't do it will start saying it more to people who already say "the indians weren't better since they drove things extinct too" and this just aggrivates the issue to confuse people and start inflammatory arguments. It's unlikely among viewers of this channel, but as people talk about it someone will hear it wrong easily, and then run with it. I admit that we really don't know, that's actually the most important part that people need to get to understand science, but we're pretty sure they made it through a whole bunch of "ice ages". The last deglaciation was a relatively normal one, and the same kind of extinctions happened in totally different landmasses following human introduction. It doesn't need to be immediate to be caused or driven by us. Life is generally more persistent with each exposure to the same pressure assuming a genetically diverse population, so they should have survived. The pressure of climate change was a main factor, but that alone couldn't do it, it had to be a reduction in population by some other means that made sure their numbers weren't maintained. It's most likely that bull mammoths were often alone, and being bigger made them the prime choice for calories when surviving the winter as a human. Mammoths were just big hairy aisan elephants, and all modern elephants live in herds of females that raise the young while males will be expelled or leave as they grow up. They mostly just interact with females to mate. Sometimes the males group together, but a lot of time they're on their own, and in the past they could deal with predators easy because of their size, but humans are different, and the only elephants to survive to modern times were the ones that evolved with denser human populations near the tropics for like 3 million years and werent geographically isolated. This is the first time apes with advanced tools first became common. Seperation in time between human arrival and extinction fits the idea that hunting removes genetic diversity, since the effects of inbreeding stack over time. It generally it takes a harsh pressure on a few fronts to erase a population of anything once established, and below a certain population density there's just not enough diversity to adapt and survive long term without help. Being less likely to find a mate hinders adaptation, and this is big when they already reproduce slowly. The fact that you REALLY need calories in the winter will reault in much more reliance on hunting, that takes out genetic diversity, settlements and farms are direct competition for resources and space, and all that on top of climate change leads to a situation almost exactly like what's driving up extinction rates today. They could survive in less populated areas longer, and humans might stop specifically going after them once they become so uncommon that few people have experience with them, but wrangel island was still cleard by people from mammothless places. Humans are smart enough to take advantage of a situation when we need to survive, and everyone does that. The whole mammoth was so useful that it'd be dumb not to take an easy hunt at any time of year even, and one can feed a small group of people for months. As humans advance in population size they become smarter, and figure out new things faster, and it just snowballs until hitting some limit on population size, at least until we figure a way around it. We got better at hunting roughly continuously, and we would have had the easiest time hunting their healthiest members who serve the role of spreading genetic diversity from herd to herd since they were alone most often, and we weren't too scared about spooking herds into traps. If you do that to any population without stopping then it will collapse. There just wasn't much they could do except slowly shrink in number everywhere that didn't have ample food or space. Mammoths today can communicate verbally in some way, and you don't even need that for them to generally be aggressive to humans, and survivors of human attacks would probably not allow any humans it sees to live, just imagine if rats did that to your friends and family, or imagine being one of the last of your kind and seeing that happen, what would you do to the rats? An eliphant is at least as smart as a 4 to 8 year old human, this isn't overanthropomorphizing, we have very similar instincts and we both rely on others for survival. Humans would definitely be better at getting revenge though. Theres no reason to say the humans at the time didn't respect the sacrifice of the animal's life when hunting to survive, and mammoths did survive in the Americas much longer than other places, but that's probably because the americas took longer to reach the same population densities, although they probably didn't have any idea that they could go extinct. After the initial extinctions from human expansion we cause ecological disturbance that mimics the role of those megafauna we drove extinct, and the extinction rate went down a bit where humans had been a while, until european contact.
Forced sterilization is such an abominable thing to do. Why not integrate people? Now America finds itself lacking in births. Ironic. Same thing was done in Puerto Rico and other territories.
Looking at those timestamps and yelling LETS GOOOOO!!!
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I knew I'd find you here lol
Thanks for doing this daunting compilation of my peoples story. @@IndigenousHistoryNow
Your video Indigenous History of Seattle popped up in my feed after searching for videos on Alaska Native and PNW Native American history. I've never subscribed to a UA-cam channel so fast after discovering yours the other day.
I saw your recent channel update video and was eagerly awaiting the next upload.
I cried a lot during this one. I guess I didn't fully grasp how horrific and intentional the mistreatment of native people was.
Although I'm mostly European, I am also Alaska Native and Blackfoot, which I identify with most. It's like I have this part of me that is Native to the core and long for the way we lived in harmony with the land. I frequently say I feel as though I was born too late. But then again I'm glad I don't have to eat raw fish eyes 😅
This video was captivating, illuminating, as well as heartbreaking at times. I appreciate your candid, no bullshit approach to the narration.
I watched it all the way through in one sitting, even re-watched a couple parts, pausing to read some of the additional information. Will definitely watch it again and pause it to read what I missed.
Well done! I'm so happy to have such a great rare resource to learn Native American history from!
Siyo! I'm Cherokee & this video was amazing imho. Got recommended from Ancient Americas channel because I'm always so excited to see in depth material about pretty much anything pre-columbian/native centric.
I think you did a great job presenting everthing accurately and not glossing over the terrible genocidal acts as many often do.
As for future topics, I'm personally biased towards anything to do with mound builder/SECC topics, especially how they morphed into the current tribal cultures we see today. And in a more niche direction; tattoo practices, clothing production/styles, and North/Central California Natives (I'm from Sacramento and the knowledge of Native peoples here is Abysmal sadly).
Looking forward to all the channel brings and thanks so much for your hard work ❤
Your a legend for taking the time to put this together for us. We have so much to learn
We’re learning af today
Your comment is fire!
Yeah, what we learning?
That was a very good and thorough video. I greatly appreciate watching it and learning so much from it.
This presentation is invaluable and I am grateful this video was recommended to me
hiii big fan here. in the intro w/terms, you could more explicity make clear that First Nations/ American Indian/Native American is not synonymous with Indigenous.
Indigeniety describes a class/social relation, while First Nations describes a racial/ethnic grouping of national groupings. First Nations and Indigenous are describing different layers of social being. Colonial and European arent the same thing, neither are European and Anglo.
Awesome video, very cool that it starts with beringia!!
Oh, I’ve not heard this distinction before between First Nations and Indigenous. Could you explain a bit more? You can shoot me an email if you want indigenoushistorynow@gmail.com
@IndigenousHistoryNow Very much appreciate you extending your email.
There's lowercase indigenous, commonly used to refer to things that are native but that is somewhat imprecise.
In Indigenous scholarship, we capitalize the word Indigenous to distinguish between popular use typically used to mean "from a place originally," and from Indigenous scholarship use meaning "Holds colonial social relation."
For example, First Nations people in "Canada" and Black people in "postcolonial" Africa are both Indigenous groups because of their relationship to colonialism. First Nations is an ethnic category basically, while Indigenous is a politically category.
Would you like me to send a email with some relevant source when I have time?
Yes that would be lovely, thank you.
I was familiar with the use of Indigenous as a political category, but I was not aware that First Nations was used differently. Thank you for educating me.
@IndigenousHistoryNow no worries! First Nations Status as a legal thing is inherited by birth while Indigenous should precisely be understood (imo which is the correct one I'm pre sure) as a mutable political category. Where Indigenous people liberated from colonialiam/the relations of colonialism have ended, Indigenous people cease to be Indigenous but they continue to be whatever ethnic/national/linguists group they are :)
ad 20:45 ... the view of "agriculture before cities" has been also considered outdated in "old world" archaeology for well over decade.
For the most part in Latin America Indian and indigenous are insults but are still used in an official capacity so it varies from person to person. And as an indigenous person myself I have preferred indigenous the entire time but I also know some have been turning away from that term for nuanced political reasons but I still prefer it over Indian
Interesting, are there other terms that are preferred over both Indian and Indigenous?
@@IndigenousHistoryNow no collective names no, just clan and tribe names if you're referring to them and there ppl but I still think indigenous is a good collective term to describe our ppl that experienced American colonization
Interesting. I was recently asking my coworkers if they, as Mexicans, identified as indigenous Americans… I didn’t know this aspect . Thanks for sharing
Basically ALL these terms are wrongi including the term, indigenous, ultimately when someone asks what you are just telling them your cultural name is more appropriate than anything else. I tell people my culture name which is Panshi Falaya Chahta from Louisiana and Mississippi and Sixika from Alberta Canada. Things are changing some faster than others but changing nonetheless. Yokoke am akana'.
@@hilohahoma4107 thank you for speaking to me I'm Ki'che Maya and Pol Slavic. And while I understand the importance of your point I just think it's still beneficial to have a term for referring to the people's of Turtle Island that suffered under European colonialism. And that share a similar experience of land loss, ghettoisation, forced assimilation, and directly suffer from the existence of European liberal states
I'm not an Indigenous American- I'm not even an American of European descent- I'm a Welsh-speaking Welshman, but I'm incredibly interested in the histories and languages of the Indigenous people of the continent.
My interest was sparked by the myth (i.e. Something that isn't true) of Madog ab Owain Gwynedd 'discovering' and settling in what we'd now call the US, via the Saint Laurence river, a tall tale made up by Welsh folks who were trying to gain favour in the English state by using the tale to justify English claims on the American continent.
Bards, our most renowned cultural keepers, wrote various poems and songs about this supposed event (I'll put them here and translate them) :
Wele’n cychwyn dair ar ddeg,
O longau bach ar fore teg;
Wele Madog ddewr ei fron,
Yn gapten ar y llynges hon.
Mynd y mae i roi ei droed,
Ar le na welodd dyn erioed:
Antur enbyd ydyw hon,
Ond Duw a’i dal o don i don.
See them sailing, ten-on-three,
Those little ships on the dark blue sea,
See old Madog, brave his chest,
As captain of the ship is dressed,
Go he is to plant his foot
Where never before a foot was put.
This is a venture very brave
But God will guide him from wave to wave.
In the 19thC, Welsh Americans set out to try to find the tribe that this mythical Madog supposedly came in contact and settled down with. They went around various tribes trying to communicate with them in Welsh and some of these guys said they'd found the tribe and although they didn't speak Welsh, they claimed that the Indigenous people had borrowed Welsh words from the settlers. You'll see these word lists, comparing indigenous words with Welsh ones, floating around the Internet, but 9 times out of ten, the supposedly Indigenous and Welsh words will have been made up by people who speak neither an indigenous American language nor Welsh.
Tldr, I'm writing this comment to warn any Welsh or Americans of Welsh descent that the entire story of Madog is completely untrue (something I've been very careful to emphasise throughout the post- couldn't have made made it clearer that 1) this is a myth that was invented in the 17thC. 2) Indigenous Americans didn't just spawn in when the Vikings and Columbus showed up- they (Indigenous Americans) have always been there (and I hope that their languages, cultures, religions and people are in my own language's words Yma o hyd.). 3) Indigenous people do not exist to be exotic literary devices in people's literature. As aforementioned, they have their own languages which they are reinvigorating and reviving, their own cultures, their own wills.
The point of this comment was to dispel a myth that exists in my own culture (which is also a minority).
Interesting..I am a quarter Welsh and quarter Miccosukee
Then quarter Italian and quarter Scotch Irish
A lot of claims there, so let's get some credibility going: I am a high school English, Social Studies, History and Second Language teacher. I have a BA in social science with an emphasis on indigenous and paleo-psychology. I have a masters degree in Psychology and 4 interstate USA secondary school teaching credentials. I am published with 2 of the universities I attended. I have worked directly with native north Turtle Island for decades.
So, your "history" of anecdotes and oral narratives is fraught with difficulties. First, there is no validation for any of your claims about the history and cultural of our mutual ancestral lands, the British Isles and Scandinavia, or, simply Northwestern EUROPE, the continent to which that land mass currently belongs. Millions of years ago the mountains in England were in fact connected to the mountains in New England. 30 thousand years or so ago, and likely before that, the North American continent was invaded by hominid species from both Atlantic and Pacific coasts and the North Pole. European migration from northern France predates the last ice age, with spearheads and tools found in mid-west Canada. Ojibwa-Chippewa land, also an ancestor of mine.
There is no archeological evidence of ancient pre-Columbian Welsh in the northeast, but Vikings did spend tome there before Columbus found the Arawaks in the Caribbean. But a nice translation of an old poem. The Irish have a legend of a monk named Bryan (sp.) who sailed east similarly to Lief Erikson from Norway area. There are no lost tribes of Israel of anywhere except in Palestine. The lost tribes of this continent are so because of European and particularly British, cultural genocide.
Scandinavians were not the first eastern migration cultures. They were among a lot of exploring human type animals that came here from Africa and the Middle East. Up to 1.75 million years before the last ice age. All based on up to 2024 evidence available to anyone who can find it.
@@billsadler3 Idk, man, you kind of destroyed any credibility you were trying to convey by bringing up lost tribes of Isreal or whatever. All I said is that the Welsh didn't end up in America before the Norse, that they didn't mingle with the Indigenous peoples and teach Welsh to them. And that the tale of Madog ab Owain Gwynedd isn't true considering the guy didn't exist. Idk why you're bringing the lost tribes of Israel into this
What a fantastic video. You have a great talent for this.
Man, this is one of my favorite videos on the internet. I will definitely come back to this video just to watch and listen to the whole thing again. Great video, dude!
Incredible, Every video there’s more quality to your work! I’m looking forwards to this series and can’t wait to see what becomes of it!
The "Red Power" section of the video was a nice moment to breathe after the like 30-40 minutes of nonstop depression.
Terms: Primal Peoples of the North American Continent will cover all the names listed. Indigenous Eco-Terran Hominid might also pass. What is most important, as you mentioned, is check with the recipient. Me, I just call people by their first name, friend, and nowadays with the subject matter, Hey Cousin!
This is a great comprehensive video.
This deserves more views
Sooooo much valuable information in this video I love it! Well love in a sense of how well you made it, less so for the emotions I felt (mostly red hot rage). My favorite parts were your real examples of land being given back and everything pre-American expansion (at most in school I can remember the mention of indigenous "Hunter gatherer societies" and a few tribe name drops).
Absolutely incredible video!!
These groups supporting Native women who disappear, or are assaulted need to be supported, that is disgusting this is allowed to be so rampant! That's heart breaking honestly...
Overall, with the exception of several ommisions and misnomers in regards to the stories attributes and other cultural points I look at this compilation of our peoples horrific experience with foreign intervention as pretty concise. I would imagine that to attempt to cover the whole story of us original Turtle Islanders experiences against euro encroachment is a very daunting task. Thank you for attempting to tell this story. ❤
Excellent
On the point of the megafaunal extinction, I disagree strongly with the hypothesis that climate change was the complete cause of the End-Quaternary extinctions in the Americas. There were previously in the Pleistocene much more rapid and intense periods of climate change (Eemian interglacial for example) that did not lead to any largescale megafaunal extinctions. Instead what I feel is more likely is that following the warming at the start of the Holocene said megafauna's species ranges (in many, but not all cases) were reduced to refugia, causing them to have a smaller population size, and subsequently allowing humans to hunt them into extinction. The climate change alone wouldn't have been enough to cause the extinctions in my opinion, so I think it was a sort of combo effect
Another factor to consider is the possibility of an impact event. The Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis has also been gaining in popularity amongst archaeologists and geologists recently, and that would be something that made the late Quaternary climate change different from other periods of Pleistocene climatic shifts.
Yeah, the bison hunters used to run such massive quantities of animals off of those cliffs that they would end up just burning the vast majority of the bodies and not even using them. Hunter-gatherers, the world round, had no qualms about over exploitation.
Hunter gatherer societies do have many qualms about overexploitation, they do their best to avoid it whenever possible. This has been thoroughly and repeatedly documented. Sometimes, though, waste is unavoidable. Hunts using bison jumps could produce a lot more dead bison than people needed or could process. This is because once you get a bison herd to stampede, you can’t stop it, and you can’t control how many animals jump off the cliff. This hunting technique, however, was used only occasionally. It was a big operation that took lots of people to pull off properly and safely (not to mention that it can only be done in certain areas and with certain sizes of herd). This was a special occasion technique, not your everyday hunt. Other techniques that are less wasteful (like isolating a few bison from the herd, or stampeding a herd into a corral) were used far more frequently.
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They call me Mad Dog...that is all.
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Thank you so much for this video! I've loved your videos, especially on the North Western Cultures, but I'm looking forward to seeing anything you're going to cover in the future!
...And wow, I have no words as to how horrifying the whole colonial history of the Americas is just so nightmarishly horrible that I don't even have words.... I'm from Finland myself, so I didn't learn anything about this in school....
Indigena is someone that is indigenous in South America well in ecuador. Indio or India is used in a derogatory form to describe an indigenous person.
I can’t just use ‘indigenous’ though because I’m from a part of the world with its own indigenous groups, I’d need to add the specifier
And that's okay! No harm in being more specific :)
@@oogawa13kokomi do you think using Native American / Indigenous American is better then or would it be Indian? Or is it honestly just a matter of preference
@blinkrush6101 are you indigenous to an area that is not the Americas? Honestly it really is a matter of preference but it would still be incorrect to use the term Indian simply because India is it's own identity and many see using that misnomer as continuing the colonial idea of stripping indigenous people of their identities/existence and it'd best to identify with specific tribes/nations. If one doesn't know where their ancestors are from, they're known as "displaced". So many unfortunate events have happened to so many indigenous people, groups and individuals where their identity was forcibly stripped it's no surprise many do not know. Indigenous is indigenous and just because someone is displaced doesn't make them any less native genetically & ancestrally. BUT there is a common thing where people will rumor a "native ancestor" be it a Cherokee princess or whatever and have 0 ties at all to indigenous people. Those are called "pretend-ians." The term Indian is still used but mostly lightheartedly by folks who already know where they come from
@@oogawa13kokomi alright, I’ve mostly been using Native American and more regional terms like Pacific Northwest unless discussing specific tribes
I watched part of this with my grandfather and he talked about how similar the boarding schools were with the schools he went to in Hawaii. That side of our family is native Hawaiian Portuguese.
Amazing video. I learned a lot.
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Hey 👋 I can tell you about the ancient people.
In The USA Alaska the Amerindians had lots of racial and or ethnic conflicts with Eskimos And Aleutians also known as Aleuts before Western Eurasians came yeah.
Where can I learn more about American Indian conflicts with Eskimos?
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@@spicyphilly You could by typing in Bloody Falls Massacre as well as Inuit Cree Reconciliation as well as Between Two Worlds Inuits And Crees etc yeah.
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Being Indigenous, specifically Aniyunwiya, and taught our language by my grandparents.
I've lost more family than we've replaced over the last 50 years. Though that's just the way it goes. At least, being a guy, I wasn't sterilized like many of my sisters were thanks to IHS. CREEPY F'ING DOCTORS!
I may have more to say later.
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Sounds like today's schools learned from it... Not any positive lessons though:( This is why I'm a partner in his education. He gets his classwork and I expand on things where needed.
new casinos nearer population centers along freeway corridors are putting older casinos out of business in sonoma and mendocino counties with incumbent hard feelings between tribal polities
Bravo! 🙌 Even though you are not indigenous and you cannot know/feel the pain of real indigenous ancestry history without living it, nonetheless you have a done a real fine job of exposing and enlightening people of the scope of atrocities committed against indigenous turtle islanders!
I appreciate you taking a stab at such a complex and diverse tapestry of injustice hatred genocide ethnic cleansing land theft and sorrow left by colonizing forces...
It is much like modern day Palestine and also other parts of the world where big business/corporatists/globalists royal and religious hierarchy appropriates lands people and resources to expand and gain more wealth and power.
They (indigenous turtle islanders) have survived, Palestinians will survive and humanity will survive whats coming for all mankind if we choose love and forgiveness...
These unholy perpetrators will be stopped and their system demolished never to be resurrected.
Justice will occur, tears will dry and rejoicing will take place! A'ho and Halleluyah!
Someday...
It has been proven that horses were already here. Then they came from across the ocean later.
No it hasn’t. There are no physical remains of horses in the Americas between the end of the Pleistocene and the 15th century.
Horse been in north America for 30-40 millions years and camel 🐫
@IndigenousHistoryNow Not exactly sure if I can copy the link here or not. A lot of people were shocked when remains were found.
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2 million year old modern human skeleton was found in California.
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Good video, I just disagree with your conclusion that humans weren't what drove the megafauna extinct. I get that it wasnt necessarily anyone's fault, and we can't blame modern people for the actions of their ancestors, but this is a big thing among less scientifically literate people. If someone like an average american who hated science class hears that we didn't kill the mammoths they can easily lump it in with the stuff saying we dont need to worry about how we affect the environment. Also people believing that we certainly didn't do it will start saying it more to people who already say "the indians weren't better since they drove things extinct too" and this just aggrivates the issue to confuse people and start inflammatory arguments. It's unlikely among viewers of this channel, but as people talk about it someone will hear it wrong easily, and then run with it.
I admit that we really don't know, that's actually the most important part that people need to get to understand science, but we're pretty sure they made it through a whole bunch of "ice ages". The last deglaciation was a relatively normal one, and the same kind of extinctions happened in totally different landmasses following human introduction. It doesn't need to be immediate to be caused or driven by us. Life is generally more persistent with each exposure to the same pressure assuming a genetically diverse population, so they should have survived. The pressure of climate change was a main factor, but that alone couldn't do it, it had to be a reduction in population by some other means that made sure their numbers weren't maintained.
It's most likely that bull mammoths were often alone, and being bigger made them the prime choice for calories when surviving the winter as a human. Mammoths were just big hairy aisan elephants, and all modern elephants live in herds of females that raise the young while males will be expelled or leave as they grow up. They mostly just interact with females to mate. Sometimes the males group together, but a lot of time they're on their own, and in the past they could deal with predators easy because of their size, but humans are different, and the only elephants to survive to modern times were the ones that evolved with denser human populations near the tropics for like 3 million years and werent geographically isolated. This is the first time apes with advanced tools first became common. Seperation in time between human arrival and extinction fits the idea that hunting removes genetic diversity, since the effects of inbreeding stack over time. It generally it takes a harsh pressure on a few fronts to erase a population of anything once established, and below a certain population density there's just not enough diversity to adapt and survive long term without help. Being less likely to find a mate hinders adaptation, and this is big when they already reproduce slowly. The fact that you REALLY need calories in the winter will reault in much more reliance on hunting, that takes out genetic diversity, settlements and farms are direct competition for resources and space, and all that on top of climate change leads to a situation almost exactly like what's driving up extinction rates today. They could survive in less populated areas longer, and humans might stop specifically going after them once they become so uncommon that few people have experience with them, but wrangel island was still cleard by people from mammothless places. Humans are smart enough to take advantage of a situation when we need to survive, and everyone does that. The whole mammoth was so useful that it'd be dumb not to take an easy hunt at any time of year even, and one can feed a small group of people for months. As humans advance in population size they become smarter, and figure out new things faster, and it just snowballs until hitting some limit on population size, at least until we figure a way around it.
We got better at hunting roughly continuously, and we would have had the easiest time hunting their healthiest members who serve the role of spreading genetic diversity from herd to herd since they were alone most often, and we weren't too scared about spooking herds into traps. If you do that to any population without stopping then it will collapse. There just wasn't much they could do except slowly shrink in number everywhere that didn't have ample food or space.
Mammoths today can communicate verbally in some way, and you don't even need that for them to generally be aggressive to humans, and survivors of human attacks would probably not allow any humans it sees to live, just imagine if rats did that to your friends and family, or imagine being one of the last of your kind and seeing that happen, what would you do to the rats? An eliphant is at least as smart as a 4 to 8 year old human, this isn't overanthropomorphizing, we have very similar instincts and we both rely on others for survival. Humans would definitely be better at getting revenge though.
Theres no reason to say the humans at the time didn't respect the sacrifice of the animal's life when hunting to survive, and mammoths did survive in the Americas much longer than other places, but that's probably because the americas took longer to reach the same population densities, although they probably didn't have any idea that they could go extinct.
After the initial extinctions from human expansion we cause ecological disturbance that mimics the role of those megafauna we drove extinct, and the extinction rate went down a bit where humans had been a while, until european contact.
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pretty sure it was chemical warfare
It is Sick wat they are doing to the Native Populous,.....and I mean today as well as yesterday,.......Sad,
Forced sterilization is such an abominable thing to do. Why not integrate people? Now America finds itself lacking in births. Ironic. Same thing was done in Puerto Rico and other territories.
Keyword: racism. They see others as less than human who don't deserve basic human rights, which is insane