My problem with game pass, and it will always be the same with all the other subscriptions services. Game pass is only a good value if you have the attention span of an iPad kid, if you play the same game repeatedly like someone with new Vegas/ GTA online it is cheaper just to buy the individual games.
I actually think it’s really great for people like me who prefer shorter single player games, Indiana jones seems pretty fun but i dont know if i wanna throw 70 bucks at it, the benifit of game pass is that i can try it out and if i like it beat it in a week or so and then go and beat a few more indie games the next without spending anything besides the honestly pretty cheap price for the subscription service. On pc it’s a life saver tbh
@@TheWarlock97 I remember the PS1 era where they gave out demo discs. You get 10 demo games in a disc and you get to play the first level to see if you like the game.
I love it. I've been able to try out games I've never would have a found quite a few gems. Plus all the first party stuff goes in. I do get overwhelmed sometimes though.
I've always been a PlayStation guy. I've owned 1-4. The only other consoles I've owned are an SNES and Xbox 360. The reason I got a 360 was because of Forza. But that era of games was the pinnacle so owning a PS3 and 360 was normal I think. I ended up getting a ton more games for the 360 and loved it. I never considered sticking with Xbox though. The PS4 had the better games and I had the longer history with them. Now all the current games are trash. The PS3 and 360 are still what I will play.
@@MrDepraved If we are going with exclusives, I'd have to say Forza 3 and Metal Gear 4. But I played a ton of the COD: Modern Warfare games on the 360 back in the day. And I played a lot of Skyrim on PS3.
The worst era wa the PS4/ xbox one era. Sure PlayStation was dunking on Exclusives. But thats when everything shifted away from console gaming into subscriptions, and video gaming consoles trying to compete with Cable services. The xbox one was a big regret for that. The PS4 was a good gaming console. But it failed in the continuity of the ps3. I still use my PS3 for its all around system use. The PS5 and Series X era is oretty much 3.0 upgrade of the 2014 era of gaming. Most games on PS5 or Series X are remasters. Thats why They both went wrong. Now the subscription has doubled on PlayStation
@@christianhenry4173 I bought maybe 10 games for my PS4 and then I just went back to my PS3 and PC for gaming. I don't care to play online stuff. All I need is a completed game to play offline and I'm doing just fine.
I has a 360 first but bought a PS3 after two RROD. I also liked Sony's exclusives better. The only thing I found the 360 better in was the online, but I didn't think it was $50 a year better
xbox right now is the best console if you just want to play games, not exclusives, just, games, because it has all the value and features you could ever want, game pass, cheap used games, and of course, streaming anywhere on near any device
Yeah but historically it’s always been games that sell consoles. That hasn’t changed. Nobody likes playing with the Nintendo switch joycons or even likes using the UI. The PS2 was by many means a worse console than the original Xbox and GameCube but it sold so well partly cos it has the games. So it’s always been about the games
I agree wholeheartedly, I'm sure with the different assets (companies) they've been acquiring they'll eventually pump out the exclusives hopefully not rushed and broken. I think cloud gaming and remote play is pretty cool but they do need to focus more on original ips. I know halo studios is pretty much 343 rebranded but I have faith
2:37 The only difference between this prototype controller and the production unit was the center jewel. The original year or so of production consoles came packaged with it. Known later as the "duke". The slimmer controller came later.
You started on a good note, and you did a good job of being objective, but then calling people stupid because they like a game, "You did not like", is not cool, and that is bad. I and my friends did enjoy Halo Infinite, and yes it was not the best, but I liked it, it was cool. As a new channel, try to stay objective, and get personal feelings out of the way, or at least do not insult people, whom are taking the time to watch your videos.
I agree, I was on board and understood his points up until that point. I don't personally like online mp much these days, but infinite has a really nice offering, especially for a free to play mp. I still play the campaign to just chill and roam around the open world, and I especially love grappling around
This was a d**m good video. Totally informative putting so much in perspective. The frustrating part of it all is what was pointed out. Those battle pass, the season pass, the two versions of currency in one game. We got rid of loot boxes for the most part. But the one common thread is the micro transactions. If memory serves it was over saturation of games floating the market with cheap knocks off that created the collapse with the added cost of buying the game being out of reach. Here we are again. Are these companies pushing micro and passes so aggressively as a means to survive, while skimming of millions for their own bonus. A hobby that once seemed so pure, creative and had passion now seems so seedy. Ok I seem so dramatic I should stop typing. It's not all doom and gloom there are rays of creativity still out there ... Let's see with GTA 6 where all that shark card money went.
If you mod the that thing you can access the entire library of 360 games, emulators to run older games, and a bunch of homebrew stuff that’s being made since Microsoft abandoned the thing. I should either figure out how to mod mine, just use the 360 emulator on my computer, or buy a modded one that’s pre loaded with games.
Make Halo great again! I miss the days of bungie made halo games. Bungie and Xbox as companies are in a struggle period and an identity crisis as far as I’m concerned. I miss the 360 days, we lived in the peak gaming time. I wish I could go back and appreciate it more ! RIP my childhood
It’s going to be so entertaining watching Sony have free rein start rap ng the paypigs dry once Microsoft leaves the console space and there’s no competition (Nintendo’s doing their own thing. Also, I’m well aware Microsoft stopped competing towards the end of the 360’s life). Sony already has an effective monopoly and they’re already going full anti consumer with the PS5 Pro (a mixed bag at best with some games being massive improvements, others are pretty much indistinguishable, and some look/run worse on the Pro. It doesn’t even have the disk drive/stand and they’re charging $700😂). The ONLY way I can see Xbox turn things around is if the next model (assuming their talks of staying is even true) actually runs on proper Windows and can play games from other storefronts. I’m sure the Steam Machine 2 will actually be able to compete since Valve is opening up SteamOS to other companies, and we have credible leaks for new hardware/controllers. So glad I jumped ship to PC after the Xbox One. Don’t really have an incentive to buy new consoles (includes Sony) since those games are coming to PC, and I can just emulate the super majority of games that aren’t on PC.
Why in your demented mind do you believe Microsoft is leaving the console space? Stop listening to 300 view videos and maybe understand that the 2 Trillion dollar coming has a better grasp on business than UA-camrs
MS becomes the biggest (or the second biggest) economic entity in the because it sell everything in a subscription base, not just game. Once lucrative box set products, like Office, Publisher, Visio, are all selling by subscription. So the idea that "oh Gamepass hurt MS revenue" point is not true.
It's your own fault if you couldn't wait with starting Infinite until it finally got out of the beta state it was in for over 2 years. Never buy or start a game on release day, that is something everyone should have learned from so many unfinished games that came out in the last 10 years, and most of them took at least half a year until they were in an okay state. And yes, the Xbox360 times were great and the best thing that ever happened to consoles, and it was during the times when gaming wasn't taken over yet by greedy idiots that only got money and how to get more money out of everyone in their heads. But what does it even matter nowadays, PC gaming has always been the best option that kept all its old advantages and is keep getting more advantages.
I play halo for the campaign at this point, the last time I played MP was Reach. I also waited to buy Infinite because it looked like shit from the jump. The writing is terrible, the characters are annoying, and the enemies are boring at this point. It went nowhere, said nothing, and set up something that will never come. Oh and the Anti-Aliasing is dogshit. I run native 3840 x 2160 all settings on ultra and it looks like someone smeared Vaseline all over the screen. None of my personal gripes with it will ever be fixed. - Hawk
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna blame Don Mattrick for the sorry state of Xbox nowadays. Why??, because they had A DECADE to fix everything and guess what?., nothing happens!! Xbox is still in the sorry state as it was in 2013.
Now compare that to Nintendo a decade ago. They were in their lowest of the lowest: The Wii U. But now what?, yeah now they are on top with their Switch. That's hgow their competitor changed in a decade. But Xbox just didn't do anything, at least anything that actually matter to their console and their brand.
Meanwhile Sony keeps secuyring exclusives left and right, adding reason for people to buy their console. What Xbox doing?, yeah, port all their exclusives to PC. Which is good, because more people can play those games, and bad, because it gives people fewer reason to buy an Xbox console. And now they gonna release their new first party games on PS5 . . FUCKING PS5!! Apparently that's what they spend billions of dollars buying studios for: Being a third party publisher.
If you really think Xbox is dead then you dont know shit. They just came out with 2 🔥 games with Stalker 3 and Indiana Jones, next year they have like 5 more games coming out and as far as people that have a PC saying theres no reason to own an Xbox to which i say it's the convenience of a console not everyone can afford a PC. Not everyone wants a PC. P.S putting Xbox everywhere means more people get to play games an Xbox gets to make expensive ones it's a great strategy and is what we're moving forward to in the future....... 🎤 Drop
It also means everybody, such as myself who bought a $500 Xbox was scammed because you don't need one, especially with the lies in the marketing. Most powerful console best place to play all the nonsense and the BS. It's not that people think Xbox is dead. It's that people know Xbox home console is dead. That's the real thing people keep overlooking Xbox. Has a brand is okay but Xbox has a home console is in trouble. Serious trouble
@@ralphy204sthonestly even if you’re a console player, I feel like there is more reason to go to PlayStation now, considering there games are going there anyways. Xbox as a console is basically dead. There is zero point in buying one, and if the no red lines thing means games like Halo and Gears coming to PS day one, then you’re basically losing as a console gamer. Why buy an Xbox when the PlayStation could do everything an Xbox can do…but better?
GamePass is a glorified rental service, and when your system's fanbase stops buying games because they've been trained to expect everything on said rental service, developers stop getting the support they need from their ROI. Everyone, except the astroturfing Xbox and PC fanboys, knew this would happen after MS bought Activision and Bethesda. They have nobody to blame for Xbox going 3rd party except themselves.
My problem with game pass, and it will always be the same with all the other subscriptions services. Game pass is only a good value if you have the attention span of an iPad kid, if you play the same game repeatedly like someone with new Vegas/ GTA online it is cheaper just to buy the individual games.
I actually think it’s really great for people like me who prefer shorter single player games, Indiana jones seems pretty fun but i dont know if i wanna throw 70 bucks at it, the benifit of game pass is that i can try it out and if i like it beat it in a week or so and then go and beat a few more indie games the next without spending anything besides the honestly pretty cheap price for the subscription service. On pc it’s a life saver tbh
@@aaaaa4197 meanwhile me that remembers the days on the 360 where they had demos for a reason.
@@TheWarlock97 I remember the PS1 era where they gave out demo discs. You get 10 demo games in a disc and you get to play the first level to see if you like the game.
I love it. I've been able to try out games I've never would have a found quite a few gems. Plus all the first party stuff goes in. I do get overwhelmed sometimes though.
@@jaredjones1846 meanwhile with demos you could’ve done the same thing
I've always been a PlayStation guy. I've owned 1-4. The only other consoles I've owned are an SNES and Xbox 360. The reason I got a 360 was because of Forza. But that era of games was the pinnacle so owning a PS3 and 360 was normal I think. I ended up getting a ton more games for the 360 and loved it. I never considered sticking with Xbox though. The PS4 had the better games and I had the longer history with them. Now all the current games are trash. The PS3 and 360 are still what I will play.
The 2 OGs, whats your favorite 360 and PS3 game respectively?
@@MrDepraved If we are going with exclusives, I'd have to say Forza 3 and Metal Gear 4. But I played a ton of the COD: Modern Warfare games on the 360 back in the day. And I played a lot of Skyrim on PS3.
The worst era wa the PS4/ xbox one era. Sure PlayStation was dunking on Exclusives. But thats when everything shifted away from console gaming into subscriptions, and video gaming consoles trying to compete with Cable services. The xbox one was a big regret for that.
The PS4 was a good gaming console. But it failed in the continuity of the ps3. I still use my PS3 for its all around system use.
The PS5 and Series X era is oretty much 3.0 upgrade of the 2014 era of gaming. Most games on PS5 or Series X are remasters. Thats why They both went wrong. Now the subscription has doubled on PlayStation
@@christianhenry4173 I bought maybe 10 games for my PS4 and then I just went back to my PS3 and PC for gaming. I don't care to play online stuff. All I need is a completed game to play offline and I'm doing just fine.
I has a 360 first but bought a PS3 after two RROD. I also liked Sony's exclusives better. The only thing I found the 360 better in was the online, but I didn't think it was $50 a year better
xbox right now is the best console if you just want to play games, not exclusives, just, games, because it has all the value and features you could ever want, game pass, cheap used games, and of course, streaming anywhere on near any device
Yeah but historically it’s always been games that sell consoles. That hasn’t changed. Nobody likes playing with the Nintendo switch joycons or even likes using the UI. The PS2 was by many means a worse console than the original Xbox and GameCube but it sold so well partly cos it has the games. So it’s always been about the games
this comment right here💯
I agree wholeheartedly, I'm sure with the different assets (companies) they've been acquiring they'll eventually pump out the exclusives hopefully not rushed and broken. I think cloud gaming and remote play is pretty cool but they do need to focus more on original ips. I know halo studios is pretty much 343 rebranded but I have faith
@@dammyoyesanya4656it wasn't just that it could play games. The ps2 was also DVD player and music player, THATS why it flew off the shelves
2:37 The only difference between this prototype controller and the production unit was the center jewel. The original year or so of production consoles came packaged with it. Known later as the "duke". The slimmer controller came later.
You started on a good note, and you did a good job of being objective, but then calling people stupid because they like a game, "You did not like", is not cool, and that is bad.
I and my friends did enjoy Halo Infinite, and yes it was not the best, but I liked it, it was cool.
As a new channel, try to stay objective, and get personal feelings out of the way, or at least do not insult people, whom are taking the time to watch your videos.
I agree, I was on board and understood his points up until that point. I don't personally like online mp much these days, but infinite has a really nice offering, especially for a free to play mp. I still play the campaign to just chill and roam around the open world, and I especially love grappling around
This is a media opinion channel. If you want only objectivity, watch a documentary.
@@TalkOfBetterWorldsbruh
I still prefer an xbox controller to any other controller on the market
If it wasn't for fable i would have never become the Xbox gamer i am today.
That was me but for left 4 dead and dead rising was using a ps2 before that
@Wahgwaanman i had a GameCube before i got into Xbox
Forza for me
@@dafyddthomas7299 nice i love being able to make a delorean drive as fast as a supercar in the Forza horizon games.
Can’t stand the state of Xbox and it kills me as a huge Halo fan. But I have a PC so there’s literally no reason to own one
Same with PlayStation. Only reason to own either console is if you prefer that more casual couch play experience.
@@bandanna2388exactly
Fable the journey is worth buying a Kinect for.
Hawk tuah
Awesome video, great depth while keeping it intresting
I used to associate xbox as the tech, but now they would rather be a service, on others tech
This shit has been explained a trillion times.
I’ll save you 33min. Xbox is 🪦
This was a d**m good video. Totally informative putting so much in perspective. The frustrating part of it all is what was pointed out. Those battle pass, the season pass, the two versions of currency in one game. We got rid of loot boxes for the most part. But the one common thread is the micro transactions.
If memory serves it was over saturation of games floating the market with cheap knocks off that created the collapse with the added cost of buying the game being out of reach.
Here we are again.
Are these companies pushing micro and passes so aggressively as a means to survive, while skimming of millions for their own bonus.
A hobby that once seemed so pure, creative and had passion now seems so seedy. Ok I seem so dramatic I should stop typing.
It's not all doom and gloom there are rays of creativity still out there ...
Let's see with GTA 6 where all that shark card money went.
Thank you!
Still have my 360 😂
If you mod the that thing you can access the entire library of 360 games, emulators to run older games, and a bunch of homebrew stuff that’s being made since Microsoft abandoned the thing. I should either figure out how to mod mine, just use the 360 emulator on my computer, or buy a modded one that’s pre loaded with games.
sadly my Xbox 360 died a few years ago,
@@shreksnow1918I just rghed a 360 and I’m having so much fun. I also have a hardmodded original xbox. So great to play games I never tried
Make Halo great again! I miss the days of bungie made halo games. Bungie and Xbox as companies are in a struggle period and an identity crisis as far as I’m concerned. I miss the 360 days, we lived in the peak gaming time. I wish I could go back and appreciate it more ! RIP my childhood
It’s going to be so entertaining watching Sony have free rein start rap ng the paypigs dry once Microsoft leaves the console space and there’s no competition (Nintendo’s doing their own thing. Also, I’m well aware Microsoft stopped competing towards the end of the 360’s life). Sony already has an effective monopoly and they’re already going full anti consumer with the PS5 Pro (a mixed bag at best with some games being massive improvements, others are pretty much indistinguishable, and some look/run worse on the Pro. It doesn’t even have the disk drive/stand and they’re charging $700😂).
The ONLY way I can see Xbox turn things around is if the next model (assuming their talks of staying is even true) actually runs on proper Windows and can play games from other storefronts. I’m sure the Steam Machine 2 will actually be able to compete since Valve is opening up SteamOS to other companies, and we have credible leaks for new hardware/controllers.
So glad I jumped ship to PC after the Xbox One. Don’t really have an incentive to buy new consoles (includes Sony) since those games are coming to PC, and I can just emulate the super majority of games that aren’t on PC.
Why in your demented mind do you believe Microsoft is leaving the console space?
Stop listening to 300 view videos and maybe understand that the 2 Trillion dollar coming has a better grasp on business than UA-camrs
MS becomes the biggest (or the second biggest) economic entity in the because it sell everything in a subscription base, not just game. Once lucrative box set products, like Office, Publisher, Visio, are all selling by subscription. So the idea that "oh Gamepass hurt MS revenue" point is not true.
Gamepass subscribers have stalled and yes, it does hurt revenue. Sales for games a la carte will always be better than a subscription
Corporates had no choice but to subscribe to their office suites because their businesses depend on it. It's entirely different for gamers.
It's your own fault if you couldn't wait with starting Infinite until it finally got out of the beta state it was in for over 2 years. Never buy or start a game on release day, that is something everyone should have learned from so many unfinished games that came out in the last 10 years, and most of them took at least half a year until they were in an okay state.
And yes, the Xbox360 times were great and the best thing that ever happened to consoles, and it was during the times when gaming wasn't taken over yet by greedy idiots that only got money and how to get more money out of everyone in their heads. But what does it even matter nowadays, PC gaming has always been the best option that kept all its old advantages and is keep getting more advantages.
I play halo for the campaign at this point, the last time I played MP was Reach. I also waited to buy Infinite because it looked like shit from the jump. The writing is terrible, the characters are annoying, and the enemies are boring at this point. It went nowhere, said nothing, and set up something that will never come. Oh and the Anti-Aliasing is dogshit. I run native 3840 x 2160 all settings on ultra and it looks like someone smeared Vaseline all over the screen. None of my personal gripes with it will ever be fixed. - Hawk
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna blame Don Mattrick for the sorry state of Xbox nowadays. Why??, because they had A DECADE to fix everything and guess what?., nothing happens!! Xbox is still in the sorry state as it was in 2013.
Now compare that to Nintendo a decade ago. They were in their lowest of the lowest: The Wii U. But now what?, yeah now they are on top with their Switch. That's hgow their competitor changed in a decade. But Xbox just didn't do anything, at least anything that actually matter to their console and their brand.
Meanwhile Sony keeps secuyring exclusives left and right, adding reason for people to buy their console. What Xbox doing?, yeah, port all their exclusives to PC. Which is good, because more people can play those games, and bad, because it gives people fewer reason to buy an Xbox console. And now they gonna release their new first party games on PS5 . . FUCKING PS5!! Apparently that's what they spend billions of dollars buying studios for: Being a third party publisher.
Very good video
If you really think Xbox is dead then you dont know shit. They just came out with 2 🔥 games with Stalker 3 and Indiana Jones, next year they have like 5 more games coming out and as far as people that have a PC saying theres no reason to own an Xbox to which i say it's the convenience of a console not everyone can afford a PC. Not everyone wants a PC. P.S putting Xbox everywhere means more people get to play games an Xbox gets to make expensive ones it's a great strategy and is what we're moving forward to in the future....... 🎤 Drop
It also means everybody, such as myself who bought a $500 Xbox was scammed because you don't need one, especially with the lies in the marketing. Most powerful console best place to play all the nonsense and the BS. It's not that people think Xbox is dead. It's that people know Xbox home console is dead. That's the real thing people keep overlooking Xbox. Has a brand is okay but Xbox has a home console is in trouble. Serious trouble
couldn't have said it better myself @str8poisintv131
A console player is going to play on a console point blank.
And as far as most powerful console I don't know if you watch digital foundries video on how the Xbox is outperforming the PlayStation 5 pro🤷♂️🤔
@@ralphy204sthonestly even if you’re a console player, I feel like there is more reason to go to PlayStation now, considering there games are going there anyways. Xbox as a console is basically dead. There is zero point in buying one, and if the no red lines thing means games like Halo and Gears coming to PS day one, then you’re basically losing as a console gamer. Why buy an Xbox when the PlayStation could do everything an Xbox can do…but better?
GamePass is a glorified rental service, and when your system's fanbase stops buying games because they've been trained to expect everything on said rental service, developers stop getting the support they need from their ROI.
Everyone, except the astroturfing Xbox and PC fanboys, knew this would happen after MS bought Activision and Bethesda. They have nobody to blame for Xbox going 3rd party except themselves.
Kid they did use that controller at launch, the duke controller was made for a whole year and rthe type S was made late 2002
Totally an underating video
Halo was shit