It makes life so much easier and the performance is so high, if I wasn’t like this for a job, honestly something like this would be so great and a nice set up in the living room
Damn, sounds like a good system if you want something simple. Maybe if I start a new system I will just go with this one. My current Headphone rig is over $30k now. :/
30k?!? I would love to hear what constitutes a 30k system! I have Meze Elites, Clear MG pros and an RME ADI 2 FS and I already feel like I have overdone everything lmao
This is the system that's perfect should you be lucky enough to stumble onto it at the beginning of your audio journey. Realistically though by the point many hifi enthusists find it they've already been through so much gear that something like price-to-performance is so difficult to calculate as to be irrelevant considering how much gear has been bought and/or sold over the years.
I genuinely love this analysis, and it’s a fantastic angle to come at it from, but I will rebuttal in this way I think for actual performance and reducing big black boxes, also depending on how much Real Estate you’ve got on your desk or some people like to consolidate a lot of the equipment into one as well. These are the areas we are truly shines
I know you have not review it , but hifiman he1000 v2 stealth is on discount (1400 usd) + a 4600 amp dac system (im thinking cayin ha6 witch holo spring) probably will fight !
Ordered the Bravura special edition based on your review. They do sound mediocre in my opinion. I did a few blind tests with multiple people and no one could pinpoint the warwick or guess its price, most were not that impressed. Me neither because the clamping force is way too much. I can't wear them for more than half an hour without getting an uncomfortable feeling. Even if that problem gets better over time they are still not a comfortable pair, compared to other flagships, hence I sadly have to return them. Still a great informative review from you, sound is subjective after all, keep it up!
My advice, give them time a couple of hundred hours. second of all I did state in the review, for small shaped heads. It could be a problem if the arms are not extended clamp force could be tight. Thank you I appreciate it, and believe me when I tell you, it’s been put up again, some of the best equipment in the industry during testing. Just look at some of the public posts on this channel that I shared and you’ll see what’s on the desk 🔝
Please don’t besmirch the cranberries. She is lovely the voice of an Angel. Might I suggest you try their album Something Else. The mastering is perfect and zombie is incredible. Also thank you for the review in the bravura sounds like a nearly perfect AIO solution. Besides bass impact estats are notorious for ethereal timbre which some love and others are less enthused with. Does the bravura also have that ethereal effect in the upper mids and treble region?
It's interesting that you found these to be punchier than the Susvara, unless it's because of the chain you used the Sus on. I remember GoldenSound finding the Sus having more authority and given Susvara's reputation for being rather gentle I inferred from that the Bravura would be miles away from the punch of my Focal Utopia.
Remember, only attempting to create a system that cruises around $6000, not SUS performance altogether, on my mono block benchmarks. Nothing has touched it yet over 60 flagships tested
@@ConvinceMeAudio Hahaha! Thank you for the reply and looking forward to the review. The reason I asked was I had a Benchmark AHB2 here driving my Susvara but decided to sell it and replace it with a Bliss (This will also compliment my Spring 3 KTE DAC). I still have another 4 weeks to wait on the Bliss. The Susvara sound lovely on the Benchmark but I had a feeling I would like the Bliss more.
I would consider these if it was possible to use the headphones with the iFi Phantom that is arriving sometime next week. Reverend Thomas, The Vegan Vicar.
Yes In technical performance, but remember elite, you can drive with anything and take it out and about with you, wherever you go, use case is very important To be honest, this system is so simple and straightforward, and if you’re not in the hobby to collect equipment, just grab it and call it a day and leave LOL
@@ConvinceMeAudio Great review, Koji! I must say that it provided exactly the information I was seeking. Although I do not consider myself an audiophile, I am currently in the market for a pair of high-end headphones to complement my home office. After some research, I have narrowed down my options to the Meze Elites, Warwick Bravura, and Hifiman Susvara. I have allocated a budget of $2000-3000 for an amplifier if I decide to go with the Elites or Susvara. As an avid listener of EDM and house music, I value a well-defined bass as well as a good soundstage and imaging. If you were in my position, which option would you recommend? Thank you in advance.
@@calvin3941 honestly, CMA, 15 and SUS is a great option Technically elite, it’s not on the same calibre as these headphones, but it’s easy to drive and it’s beautiful as hell and comfortable It has good bass, excellent imaging and good stage SUS is the best PLANAR in the world, but it requires a very heavy chain the sound its best CMA15 does a good job but stage is intimate Bravura is the best option is the best performing hp You can get at 6K there is no messing around with equipment is incredible.
@@ConvinceMeAudio Thank you for your response! It appears that the Bravura system would outperform the Susvara even with a $2000-3000 amplifier. Based on your suggestion, I have decided not to consider the Susvara any further. I am curious to know how the bass, stage, and imaging compare between the Bravura and Elites, and which one would you recommend between the two. I intend to demo both the Bravura and Elites in person, and I may consider the ZMF Caldera, which I have heard many positive reviews about.
Hmmm… intriguing. I actually returned my LCD-5’s because, although I loved how resolving they were, they just too “shouty” in the upper mids for my taste and I was not content with eq options. Right now I’m running Susvara on Bliss, not sure if this would be an upgrade or simply lateral move? I love everything about Susvara+bliss but wouldn’t mind a smidge more bass.
@@aceofspades6667 that’s what I thought too and bought them… but ultimately returned them because they couldn’t match the resolution and soundstage of the Susvaras, even though I did enjoy their warm midrange and mid bass kick.
@@ConvinceMeAudio thanks. Coincidentally I’m actually a/b testing a may against a Dave both feeding into the bliss. Honestly I can’t tell the difference. Maybe on regular 44khz content the Dave extracts a bit more detail?
SUS on top of the line chains is unbelievable But you will never be able to make SUS sound this good, including the headphones with $6000 In fact you can’t buy the SUS It’s 6K by itself, even if you get a good price at the dealer for 4.5 you’re still limited by the rest of your money for the chain 😃
Quite honestly incredibly strong and that good for that price point I don’t give that kind of praise out that easily, because I have access to everything here pretty much LOL
You didn't mention the distortions/crackling sounds at base heavy tracks 🤔🤔🤔 That's the only reason why the bravura is a faulty headphone system and that's because I did send it back . It's unusable unfortunately when you listen to it after 12 o clock on the volume dial . I wrote Martin Roberts and even him confirmed it and said it's because of the amplifier not the headphone . The Aperio doesn't have that major issue but its hidden behind a paywall forever in the shadow realm I asked about this issue golden sound in discord and he also confirmed it but didn't mention it in his review video . Sad that nobody mentions it in sponsored videos 😥
I followed up this situation extensively The problem was it was not consistent. I did not find that experience that you had with heavy bass tracks for every track. And it was so irregular and infrequent, it was very difficult to isolate, the track, the headphones or the amplifier When playing a track by Infected Mushroom from the vast collection delving into the subbase I never had an issue, , and yet occasionally, I came across a track, very rarely though where the treble region would crackle And when testing against CRBN. The situation was far worse, more regular and plus electrostatic farts This unit did not have that issue, in fact, it was very consistent across-the-board, hence why
@@ConvinceMeAudio hmm perhaps I should order it again . Faulty unit perhaps that I had 🤔 but then again Martin Roberts confirmed me oO Hmm don't know what to because I really loved how it sounds 😭
@@x32i77 I specifically came to the decision not to talk about that problem, which was so infrequent. I think I’ve got it to be honest with you, probably eight times in total for the month duration, which is just not really regular enough for it to be an actual specific problem, also electrostatics in their nature can’t be listened to loudly They have a ceiling, it’s just the nature of the driver If a car drives its maximum speed at 130 miles an hour and you push it to 150, that’s the problem I’ll be honest with you, I have missed it it’s been a wonderful experience and I can’t wait for Aperio next week
@@x32i77 in that situation, I recommend waiting, I’m getting that exact set up very shortly and will discuss it even more like for like when it arrives
I honestly don’t know why you would want to, but to answer your question you cannot EQ internally, but maybe using a software on your OS, you might be able to? Possibly Roon will definitely allow you to, if you have a mind
@@ConvinceMeAudioSusvara tuning is perfect suited for me thats why I am asking about EQing. The worst part is everything in my country is priced high , May L2 and Dave priced the same, May KTE is even pricier than Dave, all Holo audio products priced 1.5x-2x of the original price,So they are out of my league. Even if I wanted to import Bravura I'll have to pay 45% customs & taxes, that will make Bravura 8500$- 9000$ system, and it looses the value proposition.🤒😢
@@ConvinceMeAudio i asked my local retailer/seller, they said they can get it for the same price as susvara ($6600) for the SILVER ONE -$6400 and BLACK ONE -$7000 . Or used SUSVARA+ SOLOIST GT+ GUSTARD R26= $8300 which is going to be best system?
@@NKF1C SUS will have a higher ceiling so that you can grow with it as you change equipment, But this is 2300 less, and you will not ever be able to get SUS to sound that good at this price point, I’m not familiar with that amplifier or DAC the nearest I can tell you is CMA 15 Which brings the total to $8500 and in that scenario, timbre and stage is better, but impact and subbase is better on the RAV To get that with SUS you need to spend 15 to 25K on the Chain aloan Or bliss May stack with SUS it will come to 16.5 KLOL
I’m convinced.
I’m me
And that makes me audio 😉☕️🤣
Thank you for an excellent review. I love my Bravura system. It is superb. Jazz never sounded better.
Great review! It makes me want to rethink my headphone chain and just go full blown minimalist with Bravura. Thank you for this awesome review!
It makes life so much easier and the performance is so high, if I wasn’t like this for a job, honestly something like this would be so great and a nice set up in the living room
A great video, thank you, Koji!
Now, after your whispered announcement, which no one heard 🤔, there is only one system missing: Sennheiser HE 1.
Fantastic review man, really enjoyed watching it! Though was a bit upset not seeing the tiger score :)
I think like one of the video LOL, I must’ve forgotten
But you can be damn sure, it’s five Tigers for this
That’s one sexy review.
Damn, sounds like a good system if you want something simple. Maybe if I start a new system I will just go with this one. My current Headphone rig is over $30k now. :/
30k?!? I would love to hear what constitutes a 30k system! I have Meze Elites, Clear MG pros and an RME ADI 2 FS and I already feel like I have overdone everything lmao
@@lamgmtgroup258 *This is my setup.
Headphones/IEMs: Hifiman Susvara, Sennheiser HD600, Final A8000
Chain: Puritan PSM1512, Matrix X-SPDIF 2, Chord Dave + Farad 3 w/ Furutech Inlets & SR Purple fuses, Feliks Envy w/ SR Purple fuses
Cables: Puritan Ultimate XX, NRG Custom Cable ‘The 5’ (x1), NRG Custom Cable ‘The .1’ (x3), Lifatech Glass Optical Cable, Lavricables Grand HP Cable, Arctic Magnus HP Cable
Tubes: Elrog ER300B-Mo, Elrog ER300B, WE 300B, Melz 1578 (3x), Brimar CV1988, RCA VT231 Smoked Glass, TS 6F8G VT99 Round Plates, Sylvania 6F8G VT99, Brimar 6J5G L63 (quad), TS 6J5GT (quad), Raytheon 6J5GT (quad)
Sold: Headphones (T + A Solitaire P, Abyss 1266 Phi TC, Audeze LCD-5, DCA Expanse, Meze Elite, Meze Empyrean, Hifiman Arya V2, Sony IER-Z1R) || DAC/AMP (Benchmark AHB2, Chord TT2, RME ADI 2 DAC FS, iFi Micro iDSD Black Label, Chord Mojo, Chord M-Scaler, Ferrum Oor + HYPSOS)
I didn't know Partiboi69 also does headphone reviews, awesome 😎
Partiboy69? Apologies, I’m not familiar LOL
This is the system that's perfect should you be lucky enough to stumble onto it at the beginning of your audio journey. Realistically though by the point many hifi enthusists find it they've already been through so much gear that something like price-to-performance is so difficult to calculate as to be irrelevant considering how much gear has been bought and/or sold over the years.
I genuinely love this analysis, and it’s a fantastic angle to come at it from, but I will rebuttal in this way
I think for actual performance and reducing big black boxes, also depending on how much Real Estate you’ve got on your desk or some people like to consolidate a lot of the equipment into one as well. These are the areas we are truly shines
I know you have not review it , but hifiman he1000 v2 stealth is on discount (1400 usd) + a 4600 amp dac system (im thinking cayin ha6 witch holo spring) probably will fight !
Love the Panda Daytona😉
❤️🐅
Ordered the Bravura special edition based on your review. They do sound mediocre in my opinion. I did a few blind tests with multiple people and no one could pinpoint the warwick or guess its price, most were not that impressed. Me neither because the clamping force is way too much. I can't wear them for more than half an hour without getting an uncomfortable feeling. Even if that problem gets better over time they are still not a comfortable pair, compared to other flagships, hence I sadly have to return them. Still a great informative review from you, sound is subjective after all, keep it up!
My advice, give them time a couple of hundred hours. second of all I did state in the review, for small shaped heads. It could be a problem if the arms are not extended clamp force could be tight. Thank you I appreciate it, and believe me when I tell you, it’s been put up again, some of the best equipment in the industry during testing.
Just look at some of the public posts on this channel that I shared and you’ll see what’s on the desk 🔝
Please don’t besmirch the cranberries. She is lovely the voice of an Angel. Might I suggest you try their album Something Else. The mastering is perfect and zombie is incredible. Also thank you for the review in the bravura sounds like a nearly perfect AIO solution. Besides bass impact estats are notorious for ethereal timbre which some love and others are less enthused with. Does the bravura also have that ethereal effect in the upper mids and treble region?
It actually doesn’t
it’s a dense sounding headPhone 😅
I spy Bliss
I hope you enjoy it
Nice Daytona m8
Good catch, another watch enthusiast?
@@ConvinceMeAudio yea of course
(30:45) Mannnn I'm glad you didn't decide to sell a kidney my friends are already talking about selling their souls. I won't post prices lol. 😉
I am considering this system, how would you compare ZMF Caldera paired with Questyle CMA 15 to this unit?
Na this will be that outright
Though the CAL is a little euphonic in the mid range, which is a ZMF trait
It's interesting that you found these to be punchier than the Susvara, unless it's because of the chain you used the Sus on. I remember GoldenSound finding the Sus having more authority and given Susvara's reputation for being rather gentle I inferred from that the Bravura would be miles away from the punch of my Focal Utopia.
Did he mention more punchy off the Queststyle? I am sure off his reference setup Susvara is better.
Remember, only attempting to create a system that cruises around $6000,
not SUS performance altogether,
on my mono block benchmarks. Nothing has touched it yet over 60 flagships tested
@@ConvinceMeAudio Does the Bliss hold its own against the Benchmark monos when driving the Susvara?
@@mr.dynamite2543 against one beats it against to review will be released this evening 🥰 but it replaces one Benchmark
@@ConvinceMeAudio Hahaha!
Thank you for the reply and looking forward to the review.
The reason I asked was I had a Benchmark AHB2 here driving my Susvara but decided to sell it and replace it with a Bliss (This will also compliment my Spring 3 KTE DAC).
I still have another 4 weeks to wait on the Bliss. The Susvara sound lovely on the Benchmark but I had a feeling I would like the Bliss more.
I would consider these if it was possible to use the headphones with the iFi Phantom that is arriving sometime next week.
Reverend Thomas,
The Vegan Vicar.
No 1800 V bias you can’t use it with anything else
I trust your ear :)
How does it compare to the Aprio?
I am going to come back to this question in about 10 days it’s coming in for review
My time with it was too short stage was much bigger definitely
Bravura vs Caldera / Atrium on Holo May + Bliss stack?
A bit pricey. But the overall package is so freaking convincing. I don't even wanna ask but this system poops all over the Meze Elite right Koji?
Yes
In technical performance, but remember elite, you can drive with anything and take it out and about with you, wherever you go, use case is very important
To be honest, this system is so simple and straightforward, and if you’re not in the hobby to collect equipment, just grab it and call it a day and leave LOL
@@ConvinceMeAudio I want to run in a store and grab this system and leave hahaha.
@@ConvinceMeAudio Great review, Koji! I must say that it provided exactly the information I was seeking. Although I do not consider myself an audiophile, I am currently in the market for a pair of high-end headphones to complement my home office. After some research, I have narrowed down my options to the Meze Elites, Warwick Bravura, and Hifiman Susvara. I have allocated a budget of $2000-3000 for an amplifier if I decide to go with the Elites or Susvara. As an avid listener of EDM and house music, I value a well-defined bass as well as a good soundstage and imaging. If you were in my position, which option would you recommend? Thank you in advance.
@@calvin3941 honestly, CMA, 15 and SUS is a great option
Technically elite, it’s not on the same calibre as these headphones, but it’s easy to drive and it’s beautiful as hell and comfortable
It has good bass, excellent imaging and good stage
SUS is the best PLANAR in the world, but it requires a very heavy chain the sound its best
CMA15 does a good job but stage is intimate
Bravura is the best option is the best performing hp You can get at 6K there is no messing around with equipment is incredible.
@@ConvinceMeAudio Thank you for your response! It appears that the Bravura system would outperform the Susvara even with a $2000-3000 amplifier. Based on your suggestion, I have decided not to consider the Susvara any further. I am curious to know how the bass, stage, and imaging compare between the Bravura and Elites, and which one would you recommend between the two.
I intend to demo both the Bravura and Elites in person, and I may consider the ZMF Caldera, which I have heard many positive reviews about.
Hmmm… intriguing. I actually returned my LCD-5’s because, although I loved how resolving they were, they just too “shouty” in the upper mids for my taste and I was not content with eq options. Right now I’m running Susvara on Bliss, not sure if this would be an upgrade or simply lateral move? I love everything about Susvara+bliss but wouldn’t mind a smidge more bass.
ZMF caldera might be an option then.
Stay where you are grab a may or Dave, if you don’t have it
Next class up where you are
@@aceofspades6667 that’s what I thought too and bought them… but ultimately returned them because they couldn’t match the resolution and soundstage of the Susvaras, even though I did enjoy their warm midrange and mid bass kick.
@@ConvinceMeAudio thanks. Coincidentally I’m actually a/b testing a may against a Dave both feeding into the bliss. Honestly I can’t tell the difference. Maybe on regular 44khz content the Dave extracts a bit more detail?
SUS on top of the line chains is unbelievable
But you will never be able to make SUS sound this good, including the headphones with $6000
In fact you can’t buy the SUS It’s 6K by itself, even if you get a good price at the dealer for 4.5 you’re still limited by the rest of your money for the chain 😃
good god you're praising it too much..how good can it really be man? conclusion is very good
Quite honestly incredibly strong and that good for that price point
I don’t give that kind of praise out that easily, because I have access to everything here pretty much LOL
You didn't mention the distortions/crackling sounds at base heavy tracks 🤔🤔🤔
That's the only reason why the bravura is a faulty headphone system and that's because I did send it back . It's unusable unfortunately when you listen to it after 12 o clock on the volume dial .
I wrote Martin Roberts and even him confirmed it and said it's because of the amplifier not the headphone .
The Aperio doesn't have that major issue but its hidden behind a paywall forever in the shadow realm
I asked about this issue golden sound in discord and he also confirmed it but didn't mention it in his review video .
Sad that nobody mentions it in sponsored videos 😥
I followed up this situation extensively The problem was it was not consistent. I did not find that experience that you had with heavy bass tracks for every track.
And it was so irregular and infrequent, it was very difficult to isolate, the track, the headphones or the amplifier
When playing a track by Infected Mushroom from the vast collection delving into the subbase I never had an issue, , and yet occasionally, I came across a track, very rarely though where the treble region would crackle
And when testing against CRBN.
The situation was far worse, more regular and plus electrostatic farts
This unit did not have that issue, in fact, it was very consistent across-the-board, hence why
@@ConvinceMeAudio hmm perhaps I should order it again . Faulty unit perhaps that I had 🤔 but then again Martin Roberts confirmed me oO
Hmm don't know what to because I really loved how it sounds 😭
@@x32i77 I specifically came to the decision not to talk about that problem, which was so infrequent. I think I’ve got it to be honest with you, probably eight times in total for the month duration, which is just not really regular enough for it to be an actual specific problem, also electrostatics in their nature can’t be listened to loudly
They have a ceiling, it’s just the nature of the driver
If a car drives its maximum speed at 130 miles an hour and you push it to 150, that’s the problem
I’ll be honest with you, I have missed it it’s been a wonderful experience and I can’t wait for Aperio next week
@@ConvinceMeAudio the thing is the x9000 on the z10e doesn't have that issue
@@x32i77 in that situation, I recommend waiting, I’m getting that exact set up very shortly and will discuss it even more like for like when it arrives
Any ideas on how to EQ these headphones?
MiniDSP Flex with digital outs
Is EQing possible with Warwick acoustics barvura?
I honestly don’t know why you would want to, but to answer your question you cannot EQ internally, but maybe using a software on your OS, you might be able to? Possibly
Roon will definitely allow you to, if you have a mind
@@ConvinceMeAudioSusvara tuning is perfect suited for me thats why I am asking about EQing. The worst part is everything in my country is priced high , May L2 and Dave priced the same, May KTE is even pricier than Dave, all Holo audio products priced 1.5x-2x of the original price,So they are out of my league. Even if I wanted to import Bravura I'll have to pay 45% customs & taxes, that will make Bravura 8500$- 9000$ system, and it looses the value proposition.🤒😢
@@NKF1C oh ouch, definitely, then it loses its value proposition, yes I recommend rune for EQ
That might be the simplest option
@@ConvinceMeAudio i asked my local retailer/seller, they said they can get it for the same price as susvara ($6600) for the SILVER ONE -$6400 and BLACK ONE -$7000 . Or used SUSVARA+ SOLOIST GT+ GUSTARD R26= $8300 which is going to be best system?
@@NKF1C SUS will have a higher ceiling so that you can grow with it as you change equipment,
But this is 2300 less, and you will not ever be able to get SUS to sound that good at this price point, I’m not familiar with that amplifier or DAC the nearest I can tell you is CMA 15
Which brings the total to $8500 and in that scenario, timbre and stage is better, but impact and subbase is better on the RAV
To get that with SUS you need to spend 15 to 25K on the Chain aloan
Or bliss May stack with SUS it will come to 16.5 KLOL