On most all of these channels, exposing the fallacy and the fraud of Calvinism, you always have the arrogant Snark of the Calvinist come on the comment section.
I don’t know. You should contact him and ask he loves to talk to other about his past. In other videos I have heard him talk about leading that church through a split because of his Calvinistic beliefs at the time.
@@godislove3193 I’ve asked him repeatedly. He just bans me from his channel. Me and another person we’re asking him. He simply wouldn’t say. He says he’s a former Calvinist Pastor all the time, but then he never says what church he was a pastor of. Why didn’t you ask him?
What "Calvinism" did Leighton leave? The "Calvinism" that traches God chooses people arbitrarily with no apparent reason??? I would hve left that Calvinism also. But thats not Calvinism.
Arbitrarily: Arbitrariness is the quality of being "determined by chance, whim, or impulse, and not by necessity, reason, or principle". It is also used to refer to a choice made without any specific criterion or restraint. God before the foundation of the world God chose people not based on anything expect Arbitrarily. Tell us than if it’s not so under Calvinism how did God choose. Your blanket statement is not conducive to a productive conversation about this topic.
@@thecalvinistcontradiction6398 Leighton says Calvinism teaches God chose with no apparent reason in Calvinism. The reason is his kind intention of his will for his own Glory. That's the reason. You don't have to agree with that but you can't say Calvinist teach there is no reason like Leighton does. Just say you disagree with it and move on.
So, using Flowers' reasoning that since the Scriptures were written to the Jews and Jesus came only to the Jews, then, the Bible is ONLY for the Jews. The words spoken by Jesus ONLY apply to Jews. That is nonsense. Flowers is simply a false teacher. That's why he is an apostate after leaving the Gospel in favor of a man-centered, man-determined, salvation.
Exactly. I'm currently leaning Calvinist on many points. One may call me a 4 point Calvanist perhaps. However, I think we all need to be careful and not allow our theology to become an idol.
@@ihiohoh2708 theology ..... ology= the study of ...... Theo=GOD ........ how does the study of God become an idol .......... what an ignorant thing to say ...........
Hello there, May God bless you abundantly. I’m not a Calvinist, so I don’t expect you to agree with me - but just because you said this video doesn’t say anything about Calvinism, I wanted to show you that it did: The man with the beard in this video (Dr. Leighton Flowers) brought up the fact that Jesus spoke in parables so that people wouldn’t understand: “As soon as He was alone, His followers, along with the twelve disciples, began asking Him about the parables. And He was saying to them, “To you has been given the mystery of the kingdom of God, but for those who are outside, everything comes in parables, so that while seeing they may see, and not perceive, and while hearing, they may hear, and not understand, otherwise they might return and it would be forgiven them.”” Mark 4:10-12 That means Total Depravity (the T of Calvinist’s TULIP) isn’t true. Why would Jesus need to speak in parables to hide information from people (reprobates) who are totally depraved and incapable of hearing and turning/repenting???
@@SpielbergMichael Hello to you too! Remember in the verses in ( Mark 4:23) and ( Mathew 11: 15-17 ) when Jesus said “ Who ever has Ears, Let THEM hear.” We know that one must Hear the Gospel before one can be Saved as it is “the Power of God” (Romans 1:16 and 1st Corinthians 1:18 ) But since lots of people hear the Gospel and reject it, it has to mean those who have ears to UNDERSTAND it. No one who truly understands their need to Believe and Repent or end up burning in a “Lake of Fire” for Eternity would say no to being Saved from it, wouldn’t you agree? So Understanding is the Key. So here again, Jesus was simply stating a Fact that has Tremendous meaning As does the answer to your Question. According to (Ephesians 2:1-3 ) We are all Naturally Spiritually Dead. This is why (1st Corinthians 2:14) makes sense when it says “ Man CANNOT understand Spiritual Matters of God.” A Dead Spirit cannot make itself alive whether it’s in a Man or out of A Man. According to (Ephesians 2: 4-5) it is God who Makes our Dead Spirit ALIVE in CHRIST! According to (Titus 3:5 ) This happens only when We are “Regenerated” by God! This Regeneration (Being Born again of the Spirit) Happens as God gives us “Ears to Hear and Truly Understand, when we truly Understand we Repent and “turn” to God, which even our Repentance must First be GRANTED by God. (2nd Timothy 2:25.). Notice In that Scripture, it doesn’t say God gives us the Opportunity to repent, it says He “Grants” Repentance, and the choice of whom He grants this to is clearly His Choice, not Ours. This afore mentioned “Understanding” happens not because of understanding by our own volition, but because this Understanding is GIVEN by God (Luke 24:45 ) and this is the WHOLE POINT of this discussion. This all happens when God GIVES US the “Gift of God” which is FAITH by Grace, which is NOT of your own doing so that no one may boast.” So you see, Faith is God’s Gift to Man, not Man’s gift to God. So the Heart or Truth the Matter is that we CANNOT understand the Spiritual Condition we are in ,BEING BORN INTHE FLESH, until God reveals it to is and gives us Understanding of the consequences of it. So since we cannot make the choice to choose God in Christ because it is a Spiritual Matter, something we cannot understand, It is God’s choice to regenerate our Spiritually Dead Selves. Yes we are all Totally Depraved which means we are all Unable To Save Ourselves by our own Knowledge, understanding or efforts and CANNOT CHOOSE TO ACCEPT JESUS BECAUSE IT IS A SPIRITUAL MATTER OF GOD. ( Romans 6: 25-23) We are Saved only because it is THE WILL, CHOICE AND POWER OF GOD to grant repentance through HIS Gift of Giving those who are objects of Mercy, Faith which incorporates repentance. The Truth is that YOU DIDN’T CHOOSE TO ACCEPT JESUS ( GOD) , GOD CHOSE TO ACCEPT YOU. NOT BECAUSE YOU MERITED IT BUT BECAUSE GOD CHOSE TO MAKE YOU AN OBJECT OF HIS MERCY. ( Romans 9: 22-23 ). Why? For His purposes. Let’s praise GOD for His choice to create us to be objects of His Mercy! “Free Will”? What’s free about being a “Slave” to Sin and eternal Death? If God chooses to Save you, you are then a “Slave” to Righteousness according to (Romans 6: 15-23) Understanding of the Truth Will set you free. Free from what? Free from The WAGES of Sin with is Death.” Free from doubt you may have concerning your Salvation. Free from the bondage and fear of a “Works” based Religion. I say be at peace letting God be God and understand that it’s His Kingdom and His choice of whom He lets into it. God’s choice to Save some over others is exampled from Genesis to Revelation. God is Righteous which means all His doings aren’t Righteous, whether we see it now or not. I’m content in that knowledge. I hope you are too. I hope this brief explanation has given you the answer to your question and gives you a clearer understanding of God’s relationship to us, and our what our response should be to God, that of humble gratitude, Praise and a Life of striving to do the Will of God. Not because we’re seeking Salvation out of fear, but because we who Believe HAVE Received it already and do his Will out out of thanksgiving and Love.
@@SpielbergMichaelJesus knew they still wouldnt want to believe in him right? After all the Pharisees did attribute the miracles of Jesus to the powers of satan.
Hi there, May God bless you and your loved ones abundantly. Jesus didn’t just speak to the Pharisees in Parables. In Mark when it describes Jesus talking to the huge “crowds” of people it says: “He did not say anything to them without using a parable. But when he was alone with his own disciples, he explained everything.” Mark 4:34
Under Calvin, God creates children for no other reason, than to make them burn in Hell. You know, for His glory. Under Christ, God sacrificed Himself for the sake of His creations. That’s what real glory looks like. Greater love hath no man that this: that a man lays down his life for his friends.
@@mikegreene9137 "Heaven is HEll. Prove me wrong. I know you cant, but try. For my amusement" So because I claim they are synonymous, therefore they are? How would anyone be able to prove him wrong if you need to start at the fact that they are truly synonyms. "Christianity is Christianity Prove me wrong. I know you cant, but try. For my amusement"- What a joke.
@thecalvinistcontradiction6398 I think listening to uncle Leighton's story time is a joke if you mistake that for biblical exegesis, but I digress. You were the one who made the silly comment and erroneous statement and claimed it as fact so I simply gave you a needed sound rebuking. Have a blessed and wonderful day... and remember they will know we are Christians by our love for one another. 😊
On most all of these channels, exposing the fallacy and the fraud of Calvinism, you always have the arrogant Snark of the Calvinist come on the comment section.
The reason Jesus spoke to them in parables is in fulfillment of prophecy. Isaiah 6:9-10.
Just another proof the Bible is true, and Christ's diety.
What church was he a Calvinist pastor of?
I don’t know. You should contact him and ask he loves to talk to other about his past. In other videos I have heard him talk about leading that church through a split because of his Calvinistic beliefs at the time.
@@godislove3193 I’ve asked him repeatedly. He just bans me from his channel. Me and another person we’re asking him. He simply wouldn’t say.
He says he’s a former Calvinist Pastor all the time, but then he never says what church he was a pastor of.
Why didn’t you ask him?
These people make other people curious about Calvanism.
What "Calvinism" did Leighton leave? The "Calvinism" that traches God chooses people arbitrarily with no apparent reason??? I would hve left that Calvinism also. But thats not Calvinism.
i am a Calvinist .... but not by choice ................
Your only fooling yourself my friend.
Arbitrarily: Arbitrariness is the quality of being "determined by chance, whim, or impulse, and not by necessity, reason, or principle". It is also used to refer to a choice made without any specific criterion or restraint.
God before the foundation of the world God chose people not based on anything expect Arbitrarily.
Tell us than if it’s not so under Calvinism how did God choose.
Your blanket statement is not conducive to a productive conversation about this topic.
@@thecalvinistcontradiction6398 Leighton says Calvinism teaches God chose with no apparent reason in Calvinism. The reason is his kind intention of his will for his own Glory. That's the reason. You don't have to agree with that but you can't say Calvinist teach there is no reason like Leighton does. Just say you disagree with it and move on.
@@dougdozier8782Deluded Doug, Calvinism is a lie.
dont you believe in God. let God live with-in you. instead you talking your own.
So, using Flowers' reasoning that since the Scriptures were written to the Jews and Jesus came only to the Jews, then, the Bible is ONLY for the Jews. The words spoken by Jesus ONLY apply to Jews. That is nonsense. Flowers is simply a false teacher. That's why he is an apostate after leaving the Gospel in favor of a man-centered, man-determined, salvation.
Couldn't agree more.....the biggest self determinist you'll ever come across...his choice usurps God"s choice
Calvin was a man. 😅
@@andrewphillips5441
Yes he was a man...good job on that research 🧐
Who cares Calvin didn’t die for me
Exactly. I'm currently leaning Calvinist on many points. One may call me a 4 point Calvanist perhaps. However, I think we all need to be careful and not allow our theology to become an idol.
Neither did Pelagias.
neither did Jacobus Arminius .....
@@ihiohoh2708 theology ..... ology= the study of ...... Theo=GOD ........ how does the study of God become an idol .......... what an ignorant thing to say ...........
This video says nothing about Calvinism.
Hello there,
May God bless you abundantly.
I’m not a Calvinist, so I don’t expect you to agree with me - but just because you said this video doesn’t say anything about Calvinism, I wanted to show you that it did:
The man with the beard in this video (Dr. Leighton Flowers) brought up the fact that Jesus spoke in parables so that people wouldn’t understand:
“As soon as He was alone, His followers, along with the twelve disciples, began asking Him about the parables. And He was saying to them, “To you has been given the mystery of the kingdom of God, but for those who are outside, everything comes in parables, so that while seeing they may see, and not perceive, and while hearing, they may hear, and not understand, otherwise they might return and it would be forgiven them.””
Mark 4:10-12
That means Total Depravity (the T of Calvinist’s TULIP) isn’t true.
Why would Jesus need to speak in parables to hide information from people (reprobates) who are totally depraved and incapable of hearing and turning/repenting???
@@SpielbergMichael Hello to you too! Remember in the verses in ( Mark 4:23) and ( Mathew 11: 15-17 ) when Jesus said “ Who ever has Ears, Let THEM hear.” We know that one must Hear the Gospel before one can be Saved as it is “the Power of God” (Romans 1:16 and 1st Corinthians 1:18 )
But since lots of people hear the Gospel and reject it, it has to mean those who have ears to UNDERSTAND it. No one who truly understands their need to Believe and Repent or end up burning in a “Lake of Fire” for Eternity would say no to being Saved from it, wouldn’t you agree? So Understanding is the Key.
So here again, Jesus was simply stating a Fact that has Tremendous meaning As does the answer to your Question.
According to (Ephesians 2:1-3 ) We are all Naturally Spiritually Dead. This is why (1st Corinthians 2:14) makes sense when it says “ Man CANNOT understand Spiritual Matters of God.”
A Dead Spirit cannot make itself alive whether it’s in a Man or out of A Man. According to (Ephesians 2: 4-5) it is God who Makes our Dead Spirit ALIVE in CHRIST! According to (Titus 3:5 ) This happens only when We are “Regenerated” by God!
This Regeneration (Being Born again of the Spirit) Happens as God gives us “Ears to Hear and Truly Understand, when we truly Understand we Repent and “turn” to God, which even our Repentance must First be GRANTED by God. (2nd Timothy 2:25.). Notice In that Scripture, it doesn’t say God gives us the Opportunity to repent, it says He “Grants” Repentance, and the choice of whom He grants this to is clearly His Choice, not Ours.
This afore mentioned “Understanding” happens not because of understanding by our own volition, but because this Understanding is GIVEN by God (Luke 24:45 ) and this is the WHOLE POINT of this discussion.
This all happens when God GIVES US the “Gift of God” which is FAITH by Grace, which is NOT of your own doing so that no one may boast.” So you see, Faith is God’s Gift to Man, not Man’s gift to God.
So the Heart or Truth the Matter is that we CANNOT understand the Spiritual Condition we are in ,BEING BORN INTHE FLESH, until God reveals it to is and gives us Understanding of the consequences of it.
So since we cannot make the choice to choose God in Christ because it is a Spiritual Matter, something we cannot understand, It is God’s choice to regenerate our Spiritually Dead Selves. Yes we are all Totally Depraved which means we are all Unable To Save Ourselves by our own Knowledge, understanding or efforts and CANNOT CHOOSE TO ACCEPT JESUS BECAUSE IT IS A SPIRITUAL MATTER OF GOD. ( Romans 6: 25-23)
We are Saved only because it is THE WILL, CHOICE AND POWER OF GOD to grant repentance through HIS Gift of Giving those who are objects of Mercy, Faith which incorporates repentance.
The Truth is that YOU DIDN’T CHOOSE TO ACCEPT JESUS ( GOD) , GOD CHOSE TO ACCEPT YOU. NOT BECAUSE YOU MERITED IT BUT BECAUSE GOD CHOSE TO MAKE YOU AN OBJECT OF HIS MERCY. ( Romans 9: 22-23 ). Why? For His purposes. Let’s praise GOD for His choice to create us to be objects of His Mercy!
“Free Will”? What’s free about being a “Slave” to Sin and eternal Death? If God chooses to Save you, you are then a “Slave” to Righteousness according to
(Romans 6: 15-23)
Understanding of the Truth Will set you free. Free from what? Free from The WAGES of Sin with is Death.” Free from doubt you may have concerning your Salvation. Free from the bondage and fear of a “Works” based Religion.
I say be at peace letting God be God and understand that it’s His Kingdom and His choice of whom He lets into it. God’s choice to Save some over others is exampled from Genesis to Revelation. God is Righteous which means all His doings aren’t Righteous, whether we see it now or not. I’m content in that knowledge. I hope you are too.
I hope this brief explanation has given you the answer to your question and gives you a clearer understanding of God’s relationship to us, and our what our response should be to God, that of humble gratitude, Praise and a Life of striving to do the Will of God. Not because we’re seeking Salvation out of fear, but because we who Believe HAVE Received it already and do his Will out out of thanksgiving and Love.
@@SpielbergMichaelJesus knew they still wouldnt want to believe in him right? After all the Pharisees did attribute the miracles of Jesus to the powers of satan.
Hi there,
May God bless you and your loved ones abundantly.
Jesus didn’t just speak to the Pharisees in Parables.
In Mark when it describes Jesus talking to the huge “crowds” of people it says:
“He did not say anything to them without using a parable. But when he was alone with his own disciples, he explained everything.”
Mark 4:34
@@SpielbergMichael I know, the reason he spoke in parables was so people who wont believe wouldnt harden their hearts even more.
this video makes no point at all
Hm
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Calvinism is Biblical Christianity. Prove me wrong. I know you cant, but try. For my amusement
The fact that Calvinism and Biblical Christianity aren't synonymous, proves your wrong my friend.
Under Calvin, God creates children for no other reason, than to make them burn in Hell. You know, for His glory. Under Christ, God sacrificed Himself for the sake of His creations. That’s what real glory looks like. Greater love hath no man that this: that a man lays down his life for his friends.
@@thecalvinistcontradiction6398but it actually was synonymous in his statement so I think you are contradicting only yourself.
@@mikegreene9137 "Heaven is HEll. Prove me wrong. I know you cant, but try. For my amusement"
So because I claim they are synonymous, therefore they are?
How would anyone be able to prove him wrong if you need to start at the fact that they are truly synonyms.
"Christianity is Christianity Prove me wrong. I know you cant, but try. For my amusement"- What a joke.
@thecalvinistcontradiction6398 I think listening to uncle Leighton's story time is a joke if you mistake that for biblical exegesis, but I digress. You were the one who made the silly comment and erroneous statement and claimed it as fact so I simply gave you a needed sound rebuking. Have a blessed and wonderful day... and remember they will know we are Christians by our love for one another. 😊