How to treat Medial knee Pain (MCL Sprain / Medial Meniscus) with Kinesiology Tape
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John Gibbons is a sports Osteopath and a lecturer for the 'Bodymaster Method ®' and in this video he is demonstrating how to apply Kinesiology Tape for a patient that presents with medial knee pain that can include the medial collateral ligament (MCL) and the medial meniscus. Want to learn how to apply Kinesiology Tape and other Physical Therapy CPD Courses then look on www.johngibbonsbodymaster.co.uk
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I sprained my knee 2 weeks ago (mild bruising in mcl area) and have been struggling to get around the house while I wait for an orthopedic appointment. Just put the tape on and am feeling immediate relief. Now my kneecap isn’t popping while I limp around the house! Thank you!!
Holy cow! This was magical on my knee! I can not believe how well this worked. I am 55 and learning to play hockey. I tend to hockey stop more on my left foot and I believe that what caused this injury. THANK YOU!
Thats such cool comments - thanks, (I am also 55) regards JG
Brilliant thanks, have sprained my knee and the pain has instantly improved.
Glad it helped! Regards JG
This was very informative (including how to peel off the tapes). Thank you!
Thanks for watching! Regards JG
Immediate relief using this method. Thank you every so much!
Great to hear!
As always, pertinent reliable information. Love your work mate.
Thanks for the comments, regards JG
Excellent video
Thank you very much! Regards JG
I've been dealing with awful knee pain a couple of weeks now, and am awaiting a doctor visit. Not sure if I have sprained something or am just falling apart... I stumbled across this video this morning and tried your technique with the kinesiology tape and must say, I am quite pleasantly surprised! The pain has subsided quite a bit in mere seconds after applying the tape properly with the technique you've shared in this video, with regard to my particular type of knee pain. Thank you very much for sharing with us! Cheers!
Glad the taping technique has helped you, regards JG
What kind of tape have you been using?
Thank you John. The video helped relieve my pain and I can walk much better. I'm on the road to recovery thanks to you. Best wishes!
Glad it helped Regards JG
Just wanted to say THANK YOU for this video. I am finally able to walk without pain! NOW i can begin to exercise again to strengthen the musculature surrounding the joint. I had tried other taping protocols without significant success. I used the long tape ("a little fiddly") alone for a couple of days and that helped, but the addition of the 2 smaller pieces then completely eliminated the pain i was experiencing with every step. Super happy camper here! :D
+Taza Guthrie Glad the technique helped.
+Taza Guthrie I just sprained my MCL and got a split along with crutches for it yesterday. It doesn't hurt all that much when resting, and there is very little swelling. I haven't been tole how severe the sprain is yet, but since I have so few symptoms, do you have any idea how long it will take for me to at least be able to walk normally again? Walking with crutches sucks.
***** my condition is now arthritis w medial meniscus tear but it started as MCL sprain/strain. So i sure can't answer your question, but I'd suggest finding a good DC / PT / MT to help you with your recovery. Good luck!
Congratulations meanwhile for the video library, incredibly complete and clear !I wanted to ask you if there was a suitable taping to treat inflammation of the gracilis tendon and seminenosus, thank you very much!
You can try this one if you apply the X shapes over the Pes Anserinus area as will cover those tendons - regards JG
Wow that works so well. Thank you :)
You're welcome! Regards JG
Thank you!
Thanks for watching - regards JG
My future wife sent me here!
Thank you both!
worked beautifully! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for the comments and hoped you liked the video, regards JG
If you're MCL is sore is it always sprained? I played basketball and now I have pain but nothing to crazy. Thank you.
This wil help so much gonna try it I sprained my ACL
MCL
and meniscus
ACL and meniscus healed pretty good but my MCL has been leaving me in crazy amounts of pain for the last almost 3years
Bought this tape to see if it will help
Will help short term to reduce some symptoms, regards JG
Thanks for the video.
I damaged my meniscus playing squash and there there is also some damage to my MCL. I'm going to give this a shot simply because I have some kinesiology tape on hand but my question is will this help with the meniscus issue or just the MCL? The damage to the meniscus is also medial. I am also seeing a physio and will be looking at this as supplementary to her excellent treatment.
is this the same as medial pain, commonly a cyclists knee pain inner thigh same as your video, and does using the tape and say some gels good enough to fix its self and how long does knee pain llast
I have a few videos on treating Knee Pain so try one of them, Good luck. JG
Excellent Video! Forgive me for chiming in, I would love your thoughts. Have you tried - Dinanlinson Rocky Position Approach (Sure I saw it on Google)? It is a smashing exclusive guide for learning how to fix chronic knee pain minus the hard work. Ive heard some decent things about it and my cooworker finally got excellent success with it.
Hello Dr. Gibbons, your taping technique helped me a lot with my frustrating shin splints. Now I'm suffering from.pes anserine tendinitis due to overuse and the pain is located exactly you point in the video. Do you think it would help, if I applied the tape same way you do in this case? Thanks a lot in advance, all the best.
The taping technique I show can help the Pes Anserinus bursa but if it is swollen then a fanning type might be more effective, regards JG
Thank you so much beause I went to the doctor today he said surgery but I want to try some k tape I have pain coming and going almost a year. But I don't know how to use k tape I saw your video.i just put k tape on my knee. Thanks again doctor ❤
Thats great and hope it helps - regards JG
I dont have trouble walking or going up and down stairs. But when I stand after sitting - I get this pain in the same place you indicated - inner knee. It last for a few steps than subsides. I am going for a x ray but I think I probably need a specialist to look at this. The spot is also painful when I press it with my finger. I dont do sports - but I do walk a lot.
I would see a specialist if you can, regards JG
@@JohnGibbons Thanks for your reply. It is improving thankfully.
Dr in regards to a bucket handle tear on a meniscus and speaking of the injury itself , could a PRP injection be a potential alternative to surgery?
Thank you
Not really sure as not my area of expertise, good luck, regards JG
I dislocated my knee 5 weeks ago and now I'm trying this tape to deal with the pain until I've got my MRI and scan results (probably got a torn MCL and meniscus, and maybe other injuries on other ligaments). I didn't know how to stick it! I'll try this, thank you for the tutorial!!!
+Josee Anne Joly Sorry to hear about your knee injury and I hope my taping technique will help, good luck! JG
+John Gibbons I tried it and it works quite well! It reduces the pain a lot :)
Thats brilliant that the taping technique helped!
Josee Anne Joly
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Just tried it out, can't wait to see the results. Thanks!
Brilliant and hope it helps. Regards JG
Hi doctor,
I have transplantation of the two thirds of MCL, the rest is mine. And I have only one half of the plastic ACL.
My doctor told me that I cant do any sports like boxing etc. cause I cant do any vertical movements. Do You think, that I can work out muscle so much that it will be fine? I am excercising also balance on BOSU Home Balance Trainer.
Now I have pain in MCL, can this kind of taping help me?
Thank You for Ur advise
Knee has been hurting for months in the exact spot you identified with the star. How long should the tape be applied for (day/hours) and how long before it heals? Thanks so much.
Tape up for when you’re busy, work, workouts etc, allow the leg to rest with ice when you’re sat about, hope that helps 👍
Can take a few weeks to settle but most issues to the MCL settle down, regards JG
Hi John, i have just been diagnosed with an acute meniscal tear lateral on my right knee, will this be okay to do in my case? if not are you able to do a video on how I could tape my knee.
You can try the taping technique I show as should help your knee
Sir can u provide basic of taping technique i want to learn properly about it
Hi, I have lots of 'intro' videos on kinesiology taping and i offer an 'online' taping course on my website. regards JG
Would it not work to just release the myofascial trigger points above and below the knee?
Tape is only tool in the toolbox you can use and doubt the trigger points would work or do anything for a sprain of the MCL or meniscus, Regards JG
i have a knee sprain and currently wear a knee brace my knee if fine but just not with cutting. will this allow me to return to sportsv
The tape will help, regards jG
What exactly does the taping do for mcl. I have a grade 1 MCL and been in pain for months, will be getting a brace for support. Any advice? TY
Its worth trying and I doubt the MCL will still give you pain after a few months if only a Grade 1 sprain, the medial menisci is probably involved, regards JG
can you to this Ktape technique in and also lay a edma spider tape strip on top of this and still reduce the swelling?
Haven't tried it myself but it could work, worth trying at least
thanks...
will this help after medial meniscus removal surgery???. . 3 mths post op now and no real confidence when training. .hope this technique might help
It is worth a try at least as it will probably help
@@JohnGibbons hi sir knee ke down vali jgh pe kise lagaye
I've seen a method where the first long strip is placed on top of the "X". Does it matter whether it goes on first or last?
Hello John
My MCL supportive bone got cracked little bit and what should I do now and how do I make it alright
If you managed to damage the bone then will take a few weeks to settle down, good luck, regards JG
@@JohnGibbons Tq John
Hi Doctor,
I suffer from pain in my knee because of grade 3 medial meniscus. How should I use tapping for my knee? is there any way to reduce my pain? Since I'm worry to be undergone an operation in this situation (Covid-19) , I'm looking for an effective way to do it.
Try the taping I show as will help reduce some symptoms - if it is a torn meniscus causing locking issues then surgery is way forward, regards JG
Can I use this method for medial meniscus tear injury?
Its worth a try at least, regards JG
what does the kinesio tape do for you? its been a month now i can run and jog and bend my knee. i play football but when i do a side pass i feel that stingy pain but its bearable enough and disappears in seconds. how long would this pain last and does it mean i still dont have the green light to play? im in the strengthening phase now and would really loved to get back on the pitch already
I am feeling the exact same thing
That’s how I’m feeling rn
@@mosesgutierrez8744 it goes away after awhile, its basically just "scars" from the tear. It took me to adjust about 1-2mos before the stinging feeling went away
I have a basketball game today and I just applied the tape, should it be safe to play?
Hopefully the tape helped for the game, regards JG
You have another video posted 2 years prior on taping MCL sprain in which I noticed you placed the last piece of tape at a slightly different angle instead of at the same angle as the first piece(like you did in this video) is there a reason you chose to tape this MCL slightly differently or have you just evolved your methods slightly over time?
As long as you cover the MCL you will be fine - regards JG
What brand of tape are you using. The ones I get seems to be cheap/don’t stick even though I’ve paid more for them too.
Try Rocktape as the best one I use, regards JG
Hii Dr., I can move my knee from 0 to 105 degrees only and also there is little swelling around and under my patella and it jerks under the patella when I try to walk. Also there is some pain to the inside of the knee. I am very afraid wheather I will be able to walk again...Please suggest something🙏
Most knee pain will settle within a week or two, try the usual ice and compression if it is still swollen and see someone like me where you live, regards JG
If you have pain on the medial side you need to rule out the medial meniscus?
I am sure I already knew that as been teaching courses on the Knee for many years, regards JG
Ive hurt my mcl and acl 5 weeks ago, thats what my doc said but i think have meniscus and mcl. I can go up the stairs better but cant walk properly. How long do u think its gona take to heal?
Hard to say in reality - if you have fully torn the ACL then wont heal without surgery, the swelling will eventually go down but the knee will always be unstable. I suggest you have an MRI to confirm or deny the injury and take it from there, regards jG
@@JohnGibbons my doc said i had mcl and lcl not acl. I misstyped it. Will i be ok in the next month? Im a football player. Thank you sir
Hello John
I am to order Kines. Tape but I am really confused how to use it as I have multiple knee problems; patellar osteophytes, partial tear of the front ACL and medial meniscus , my knee pains me alot and I can't walk or stand for a long time ! I see that each one has got a different application ! Could you please help how to use the tape in the regard of the mentioned three cases above ..
Thank U very much
Jasmine Kamar I would try one technique first and see if that reduces your pain and if not then try another one. Good luck, regards JG 😊
John Gibbons
Thank you :)
John do you recommend cutting KT tape to size like you did here, or using the KT Flex tape they now offer for knees. This is for an MCL injury. Thank you.
I think either would work well and try them both and see which one helps. Regards JG
I had a sports injury about 2 months ago, the evening it happened I couldn’t stand on it and for days after I couldn’t extend/hyperextend my knee...
I can finally extend my leg, put all my weight on it but have not attempted to run yet...Would this be an MCL tear/sprain or symptoms of it? I’ve done squats and strengthening my knee this way and it feels a bit better but still “stiff”
Any idea please doc?
Hard to say without looking at you - the bonus is that you can now weight bear on the leg and move it so things are improving for you, if it is the MCL then takes a few weeks to settle down, regards JG
@@JohnGibbons Much appreciated
how about if i have pain above the knee? anything i can do?
I have a medial meniscus tear and have impinged the fat pad in the same place. It's more anterior, almost equally positioned between the anterior and medial centers. If I adjust for positioning, would this help? Or should I try something else considering it decently swollen? (Yes, I've been icing, staying off of it, and am doing what exercises for it I can.) Thanks for any replies.
Thanks for the message and would wait for the swelling to reduce before you try anything as swelling causes pressure and pressure causes pain, regards JG
@@JohnGibbons Thanks for the fast reply. I'm icing a couple of times a day and have taped for swelling so hopefully it will go down quickly.
I cut the 3 lengths of tape a bit long, now when I walk I feel like I'm getting a Brazilian on the go. Is this normal?
😂
How to tape the medial and patella
I have a video for taping the patella - regards JG
Can i tape both sides of the knee to support it? Cause I have a sprain in all the knee ligaments.
You can indeed and worth trying, regards JG
@@JohnGibbons thank you... I sprained my knee ligaments and there's a clicking sound too, but since we're in a lockdown here and I'm living alone and tested positive for covid It's hard to go to the hospital 😞.... Thank you again for your great videos... Can you make a video about full knee support taping?
Hi John, will this help for a medial meniscus pain/tear? Thanks
It will help offload the pain, however it won't fix the tear, just bear that in mind. Good luck
Hi, should i apply this for all day long? my work is at office only. does this help for my knee (MCL injury) improvement apart of application right before exercise / jogging / play football session taken place?
You can leave the tape on for between 3-5 days and it should help the MCL. Good luck
ok, well noted. thanks for the advice. appreciated it so much..
Kenvy Wong Thats ok, hope my advice helps
Hi John Gibbons , i just went to played futsal with more precaution and tried to do minimal movement, unfortunately i injured my knee / tear ligament, and i suspected it is MCL, again.. i heard the pop when i was about to turn around with the ball. i have been doing the pphysiotherapy about 3 weeks ago and light jog before too. it doesnt help me much. what actually that i got to take more precaution??? i unable to walk where the pain is so much hurting.
where to get tapes? so many on amazon and seem very expensive
Some are expensive but you pay top money for a good brand - I sue Rocktape - regards JG
Hi John
My back - Side of my Knee is hurt. Before it hurt i heard a pop sound on that area, is that a injury?
Yes probably grade 1or2 mcl or acl tear
If it's the side it's mcl
Hi Dr, I am getting medial knee pain (MCL spraining) on both legs after physical activity. I saw you mentioned in one of the comments below that it could be due to my foot positioning -are there any corrective exercises you would recommend? For example squats with the feet "flared" out?
Its probably best to see a Podiatrist or someone that specialises in biomechanics of the foot position as it sound like this might be the issue. Good luck
I fell on ice recently. Mri shows numerous things..DR says no surgery? confused. ACL tear PACL tear. MCL disruption, mild Patellar subluxation laterally. I had bruising from inner thigh to ankle..huge football sized bruis inner knee . I twisted my leg under and back when I fell..I thought I saw my kneecap slide over and back. so confused at what my course shoukd be. This happened Jan 5. 2017
If the MRI shows a Full thickness tear of the ACL then surgery is generally recommended, otherwise the knee would be relatively unstable most of the time and will lead on to early degenerative changes, that would be the normal process where i am based in Oxford but it will be the Doctor / Surgeons choice at the end of the day to what they will do for you. Hope that helps. JG
John Gibbons Ty for getting back to me. Also, tore my vastus medial is. This all happened on Jan 5. I have a large swelling to right inner knee still and my whole thigh is bigger than the left. I cant bend the knee back much but straightening is fine. I feel crepitus with my hand placed on knee cap when I do try to bend. Dr has me doing PT for a month only. Knee is stiff and wondering if I have fluid, a hematoma, and or muscle scaring ..firm hard area right next to the side of r knee
just tried it... seems like a lot less pain.. they told me i need an MRI on mine and repair. I don't have much mobility in it so they think it is a small tear. laser surgery but I really can't afford it right now... another great video! i'd like 100 times if it let me
+Uppercornerhockey thanks for the comments and I hope your knee gets better. Good luck!
I had to eventually get knee surgery
through hockey and insurance covered it.
Can I wear a knee brace over the kinesiology tape or is that not recommended ?
You can if you feel it helps, regards JG
sir i have lateral collateral ligament injury. i have been to doctor but first doctor said its cartilage problem. after one month medication again visited for check up the doctor said it may heal by itself. but the pain remain same for 3/4 months so again i consult another doctor. he said its ligament and he advice me to put knee belt to keep knee straight. and after one month i visted for check up . he said now i can remove the belt and he suggests me one exercise. but still i feel mild pain. so sir i wanna know how long it takes to recover for ligament torn. and what i should do.
regards
I just have the red tape is that ok
The tape is the same - the colour is irrelevant - regards JG
where do I get the tape from? I'm in South Africa. if any one knows, please let me know
Ray Sliziuk EBay is good, otherwise most chemists and sports stores
hello sir,
little bit pain my medial kmee .
tell me what can i do :(
physiotherapy
+ਗਗਨਦੀਪ ਸਿੰਘ Try the taping technique as it might help reduce some of your pain, good luck.
do i have to use kinesiology tape? or can i just use sports tape?
I would use RockTape as a choice and it is a type of Kinesiology tape - google search it. Thanks for the message JG
i injured my knee a week ago.the doctor whom i consulted with diagnosed me with medial meniscal tear on both knees.does it need surgery? or will just heal by its own? i can walk now slowly but i can't bend both of my knees properly.and its still a bit painful.what shoud i do?
Hey did you heal
My son runs and after, not during he gets sensitivity at the mcl . When he bends his knee. Will this tapping help?
It will off load the area of pain but it won't fix the problem, which is probably coming from either his foot position, the shoes or terrain he is running on or possibly weak gluteal muscles or all the above...
Thanks for the reply. Gluts, right IT, foot position. Ya I'm sure any or all. I will be taking him to a running coach for proper pose technique. He is already running in bare foot running shoes and that corrected the shin splints. Thanks for your input.
Thats ok
I hurt my knee like 3 months ago and I still can't shoot the ball. I went to a doctor and he said that I sprained my mcl. I'm playing but using my left foot to shoot and I'm righty. I can control and move the ball with my right one without problems but just can't shoot. Do u think this will help me a lot? At least to be able to pass the ball, other thing is that I can kick the ball and pass it with the outside of my foot without problems. I don't feel any pain.
I would try and see someone like me if you get the chance, regards JG
I have the same exactly issue, is there anything that helped?
@@kevinflores9246 Is a ur thigh muscle got not strong anymore after the MCL?
@yosafatgary7423 well, I have trouble flexing my leg straight. I can, but while I'm straightening my leg my knee does a little pop and then I'm able to straighten it. However, sometimes I find my knee hurt to straighten my leg. I'm still able to do single-leg workouts but I do feel like I need to work on my quads.
I can play soccer, but I'm scared to shoot and go into a tackle as I have kept hurting my knee every time my knee gets caught in the opponent's legs. I have had my knee move out of place when that happens and I have to stop as I can't straighten my leg. So I have to rest like 2 weeks and I can play again, but really I'm not suppose to
@@kevinflores9246 ur leg can perfectly staight or have a gap under the knee? I think u not supposed to be forced ur foot just rest and go work out. The torn ligaments cant back to normal right? So u need to do a workout for your muscle foot to get a stability first. Do lower exercise and do gradually. If u forcing ur foot to play with high intensity game, ur injuries will get worse. Just be patient to get a good result, it cant be instant.
Is this going to heal it or reduce pain?
Probably a bit of both even though an MCL sprain can take many months to heal. Hope the video helps, regards JG
Hi.this technique practiced only by one side or on both sides?
+tsofli lemonokoupa This technique is applied to the area of pain only. Good luck!
thank you
Hi John
Two questions: I have been watching different videos and some put the blue piece on last. Does it matter?
And second: If I tape my knee, do I still have to wear my knee brace. I'm pretty sure I my muscle is inflamed. It used to just hurt whiles doing physical activities but recently has been hurt even just went sitting down.
krr866 I don't think it matters which order you apply the tape as there must be so many variations on youtube, i would try a method and see if works with you and that goes for the brace as well - try with and try without, good luck
@@JohnGibbons what tape is use doc
Hi doctor Gibbons, I would have your advice about my situation: 2 month ago I had a micro lesion on medial collateral ligament ( I think first degree or a simply elongation of the MCL) during a football match. I have done 3 tecar, my osteopath have treated my knee and I applied the taping. Before the treatment I felt pain during the flexion on MLC but now I feel no pain and I would resume to play football. My answer to you is: during the football match what type of taping I have to apply? I have to apply the taping for the MCL sprain or another type of taping?
Thank you for your availability and sorry for my bad english but I'm italian :)
Taping for the MCL will be fine before each game
Can I play cricket by applying this taping
Worth a try as might help, regards JG
My pain feels lower, i would say lower medial like the top of my inner shin bone
+Steve Smith It could still be the Medial ligament, however it might be other soft tissues - try and see someone like me to get a better opinion, good luck!
+John Gibbons Evening Doc. Do you privately treat patients who have suffered a recent (MCL) injury? Sir i read somewhere that you are located in Oxford.
Regards.
I think that's what I have it hurts like Hell to me there ?
i can barely bend my knee like this.
Probably best to see an osteopath where you live as sure they can help, regards JG
That tape doesn't work.
Wtf is tape gonna do ?
Tyler haroldson clearly, you are not using your brain. Or do you not have one...
It’s a joke. I’ve been playing sports my whole life and been taped up many times yet refuse to buy any myself as it really doesn’t do much .
Please...In Arabic....
My Arabic is not the best so will struggle....sorry! Regards JG