The Ruger Downgrade & The SR9 Series
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- If you buy a Ruger SR9c for $200 bucks right now you're not getting the same gun they used to sell for over $400 just a few years ago. How do they do it? I have a theory. I also have a theory as to why Larabars are always on clearance.
Since the SR series was introduced, Ruger hasn't upgraded it. They've downgraded it. Instead of making a good gun into a great gun, they just made it cheaper.
I wish Ruger had updated this model instead of making the American pistol.
Same. Why ruin a good thing?
I still rather have sr9c
My SR9C waa a victim in my home fire. Luckily I didn't lose all my firearms or accessories. I'm left with 2 10 round mags and 2 17 round mags. I'm ready to replace it but am mixed as to where to go from here.
Don't they still have the Security 9?
I love my American. Best pistol I've owned.
The rant at the end is why I love hop
I bought my SR9c years ago because 1)..it was a Ruger,my favorite arms manufacturer,2)..it had the best trigger pull on a striker fired pistol at the time,and 3)...it went from a compact 11 round EDC to a 17 round reload in a second. Plus,adjustable rear sight,ambidextrous controls,chamber indicator,and thumb safety. Made the Glock 19 look like my unmarried sister. I would carry this for months,then take it to the range and fire it,as is,with never any issues. Great pistol.
I think the SR series has the best trigger aside from a PPQ
This hit me right in the gut. My SR40c was the first pistol I took the trouble of buying new. I spent a whole deployment waiting to pick it up. It was a thrill to shoot, comfortable to carry, and over at least 1000 rounds, never gave me a single malfunction. I ended up selling it a month ago because I listened to everyone who trashes 40 and I was trying to fund a P320 RX... Even so, I've been overcome with regret.
Yeah, the safety and LCI make no sense. Yeah, there is no threaded barrel and there never will be. But it fit my hand and made me a better shooter than any other pistol I've ever had. After watching this, I vow to get an SR pistol again. I thought I'd loved a gun before, but now I finally know what it really feels like.
Did this happen?
Yeah, did you get another SR?
Update???
Bruh, thought I was alone about the Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Larabars being almost there but not quite. I feel vindicated.
SR9's are absolutely fantastic, and I wish Ruger would have stuck with and improved them, instead of abandoning something good and replacing them with crap.
The Security 9 isn't crap by any means but it's not anywhere NEAR as good as the SR series. The SR series had better finish, fit, ergonomics, sights and trigger. It also had steel rails, not aluminum rails.
@@burmiester1 I also heard good things about the 57 but 5.7 Ammo prices are still screwed IIRC.
I once had a stainless SR9c that I sold along with two other perfectly good guns (Canik TP9 Elite and Tanfoglio SF 9mm) to buy a Hudson H9. I'm still crying over that...
The H9 might be worth something in 20 years though.
RIP.. lol. Never uptrade for hype..
Always take your hype gun and down trade for great deals.
We cry with you..
Damn that was one good gun
I learned a long time ago that it’s better to just keep your guns, even if you don’t use/ shoot them anymore. Especially don’t sell them, you’ll always regret it.
The chocolate chip cookie dough Larabar might not be the best bar they've made, but it had the most potential.
The original stainless SR9s are a thing of beauty, best looking striker fired pistol imo
I've had a SR9c for a few years. It's been a good gun, accurate and reliable.
Love my SR9c! I’ve got thousands upon thousands of rounds through mine and it’s been absolutely reliable!
This is my EDC pistol.
I removed the magazine disconnect, and put a Galloway Precision stainless steel guide rod assembly in it.
Same. Absolutely love mine, and won't ever get rid of it. Thinking about just getting the whole Galloway precision kit
The most underrated pistol ever. I love my SR9c. I modified it with Galloway Precision springs, short pull trigger, trigger bar, taction grip overlays, stainless steel guide rod. With the 17 round mag it fits my hand perfectly, it's a natural pointer, love the ambi controls. Very accurate. Who needs a Glock when you have this Ruger?
Bought allot of stuff from Galloway precision. Plus, Crimson Trace has a red laser for them.
I have an SR9c that I purchased at a local gun show in. SC for under $400 6 years ago. I have NO issues with this pistol. I don't understand what gets peoples panties in a wad about the loaded indicator.I will keep my Ruger. Very nice weapon.
It's kinda like the grip zone mentality. Folks went apeshit over that. "why are they telling me where to grip???" - caveman mentality right there.
I watch Colion Noir's video on the SR9C and when talking about the LCI, he was like, "why would you NOT want an LCI to be noticed, especially by someone unfamiliar with guns?", which makes a lot of sense. He also said, "you can't see it when you're shooting", which is true. Some folks like to hear themselves crying about things not worth crying about, I guess.
When I was first looking for a pistol I was between a SR9 and a S&W Sigma, I was impressed with the features and quality of the Ruger. I went with the Sigma for the price. Wrong choice.
Throw a Trigger Job onto that Sigma and it's going to improve dramatically!
The sigma I came across must have had a 12 lb trigger. It was terrible. I literally thought it was broken, because of how hard the trigger was... (I guess it was sigma--- it was either SD9 or SW9?? I forget)
S&W "Ligma" 🤣🤣 Had my sr9c for 5 years and has been my carry gun the entire time. Thousands of rounds and not a single problem. I did swap out the the guide rod for a stainless one, but that was the same week I bought it. I would try to get my hands on one, because I know a few guys who are trying to get mine from me because they can't find one
When I'm not EDC carrying one of my beloved Glock 19s, my only other reliable carry gun is my SR9c. Over 4k well-documented rounds down its pipe, and dead-reliable. Hell, it went over 3k before I replaced the first recoil spring assy. I love that gun.
Man, that's a lot of pistol, for 200 bones! Thanks for sharing!!
So is the Taurus G3 and TH9
@@sargewilliepete2174 $200 pistols are a myth these days. lol
I've been curious about the SR9s, they seem like a decent pistols. Nice to see you uploading again.
Trashcan Possum Owner of one. Smooth trigger. Always keep mine on safety because when that trigger pulls regardless of the trigger safety, it shoots instantly with the very light trigger pull
Just get the Ruger LC9s, or LC9s Pro-- even better. Much thinner and smaller, yet has more rounds.
@@calhollithe SR9 grip is thinner and more ergonomic than the Glock 17/19/26 grips
Personally I wish they would go back to the P series.
This!
+ 10,000 🖒😎
@HachiZenki They were much better than any of these new pistols Ruger is putting out now.
Yeah if they slimmed them down.
the thickness isnt a problem, learn to adapt. They were built like tanks and thus just as reliable as one.
I bought an SR9C a few years ago and I bought it because of its trigger, which is the best handgun trigger I've ever found. I haven't put a lot of rounds through it, maybe 300 or so, but I've had zero problems with it. It's been accurate and dependable. My SR9C shares EDC duties with my Walther PPK.
I have both an SR9c and 9E. They are fantastic, got 3156 rounds thru Sr9c and 9659 rounds thru the 9E (yes I keep track) They are truly underrated, High value pistols. Very soft shooting. Used 9E in competition a good bit. Only thing I didn't like was the magazine safety (easily removed). The other stuff is no big deal for me. Both have a nice broken in trigger of 4lbs on my trigger scale. Rugers best pistol so far. Will have the new Galloway Lion Heart flat face trigger in on Thursday to try on 9E. If you can find a SR pistol for 200-300 bux buy it.
I sure did bought it.
Epstien didn’t yeet himself
John F. Kennedy didn’t yeet himself
Ngo Dinh Diem didn’t yeet himself
Kobe Bryant didn’t yeet himself
There’s one thing that connects them . . .
@levi blankenship Nope. The helicopter did it...
Nobody cares
@@fighterpilot4059 helecopters?
I am a big fan of Ruger. I pretty much have every gun they ever made minus the P85 and P345. I sure hope they come up with a new model soon. My favorite Ruger is still the P89.
One of my favorites too. I have a P89 DC that is as new,not a scratch. Shoots perfect,and I got it for $285.
I also have a p89 DC. Still runs great. 👍👍👍🙌🙌🙌
If they can even build them now.... I think they should re-release the P89 cut for red dots... and the SR9, cut for red dots... and it would turn their company back around in the pistol world. Otherwise, I don't know who is buying their stuff these days; literally no one ever has nice things to say about their newer pistols. lol
My favorite is the GP100 .357
Good to see you not neglecting the OG channel. Keep up the great content.
I have a SR-9 and it shoots great, never had a malfunction.
Same
Just picked one up at my local sportsman warehouse for $250. Feels good in the hands can't wait to shoot it.
Hope to see some Hop at SHOT 2021 vids next year. Are you listening James?
My SR9C I bought new quite a few years ago has the brushed stainless / better finish slide but what you show as the newer back plate. Appreciate you pointing out the two as I did not realize what they had done! Thing is an absolute machine and has never let me down and will never leave the collection. One of my favorite, easy shooters to take to the range. Appreciate the video - I feel the exact same way. Just a few more details and the SR9C would be top of the class in its range.
The SR9c was my first handgun, and I got into it not knowing much about pistols. Flash forward a few years later, I now also own a Glock 27 and a MP Shield, and the Ruger is still my favorite
I usually hate two tone pistols, but this looks sweet as.
Interesting points. I always felt this was a very underrated pistol. I was working in a big box retailer that involved waterfowl and mountains when the first ones came out. It was the first ruger handgun to come out when they wanted to instead of waiting for shot show. Lots of display materials and such came out with it. It also lacked the trigger saftey at first, they added it later because the Ruger reps said it could fire when the saftey was off and you dropped it.
1 st half of vid is Hop with no sleep for 48rs, second half of vid is his normal 5+ Monsters voice. Great vid, keep em up!
First half is Hop way too close to the mic, second half is Hop with a condenser mic and a pop filter. :)
@@Hoplopfheil I just ment the speed and enthusiasm of which it was delivered, not so much the clarity or volume
I heartily endorse the proposed changes to an updated SR9. I would only add front slide serrations, maybe.
The SR was my first handgun. Excellent trigger. I replaced the sights with Trij HDs and put a stainless steel guide rod in mine. It's got over 2k rounds through it, with only a few malfunctions (it doesn't like Win white box). Very accurate and reliable gun.
I have since replaced it as my "go to war gun" with a Glock, simply because of the aftermarket support and cheaper magazines for the Glock.
But I'll never sell my SR9, it'll always have a place in my safe!
Greetings from Kentucky....The SR9 and SR9C were the first two non 1911's that I purchased years ago and always enjoyed their trouble free operation. Actually the 9C was the first edc I ever had. My son-in-law has them now and to this day they continue to be spot shooters and rock steady reliable. My one unfulfilled Ruger SR wish was that they never came out with an SR45c . To be certain the SR 45 had its problems but I still would have stood in line for a C model had they ever come out with one.
Honestly, every reason you stated is the reason I don’t buy this gun when I was looking for my first gun. I went with the SD9 VE. Sure trigger was bad. But I put the spring kit in it from Apex, and now it’s fantastic. Super reliable with no of the bs. Put some M&P night sights on it. Ruger, if you at all listen, just do what this man tells you and I promise you will sell more of these in droves.
Here I am in 2024 and still love this pistol. I just put a red dot sight on it for competition shooting. My SR9C runs as good as my 2nd Gen P10C with about the same recoil. And I love the 17 rd. mags, and a little bit of silicone makes the mag sleeve extensions stay put. It even runs better than my ported PC S&W Shield Plus with its' 4" barrel.
What magazine extender fit the regular clip I'm looking on Amazon but I don't see src9 one
Bravo! Please listen Ruger.
I did the same thing for my first semi-auto-- researched the crap outta everything on the market-- including Glock.
Only, that was in 1996, when the P95DC was still a new design-- which I then bought for $200 less than a Glock!
And in 24+ years of ownership, my P95 has only ever had two FTEs (due to cheap, badly-seated ammo) and is still going strong!
I really don't like the direction Ruger went after that, and truly wish they would go back to an updated (maybe) P-series! If they did, I might be tempted to buy their products again... 😒
I do like the P series pistols but both P95s I owned were a disaster. Unlucky twice I think.
@@Hoplopfheil Sorry bout that-- I'd offer to sell you mine, but I just won't give it up... 😉
Lot of Issues with some of these issues Ruger SR pistols regardless of caliber, own the Ruger SR45 made in 2017 and sent it back to Ruger twice and they still didn't fix. Finally I fixed it with aftermarket parts from Galloway Precision and filing and polishing the trigger bar. Biggest reason why Ruger and other manufactures changing things regardless if it's on the firearm or replace a hard case to a cardboard box or accessories, main reason for doing this? Keep production cost down.
I bought an SR9c way back when. It's like a Glock 26, except it has adjustable sights, a light rail, a manual safety, a better trigger guard, and it was $50 less. Trigger is adequate. It's reliable, durable, and accurate.
My local shop I usually buy from had about 3 SR9 full size around $259 or $269 .... was seriously considering one ..
Its a shame they did away with this. I have the sr9 i bought in october of 2007. It is still going strong! Replaced spring and exteactor, lots of holster wear, still in use today as my edc. It could have been a really good pistol. I have hiviz sights on it. Do wish i had more aftermarket options. And yes. The sr series was a contender
Continue to be some if the best reviews on UA-cam! Keep them up, brother.
Hearing your opinion on the Security 9, I hope to see a video on it in the future to hear more about it. I just started watching recently and have been enjoying your content so far!
I LOVE my LC9S... and they're doing the SAME THANG!!! They had one of the BEST single stack 9mm and went EC9S !!!! I hate the Striker indicator too!!!
They NOW have the formula for the best Striker fired trigger in the LC9S and EC9S so HOPEFULLY they will make good on these improvements!!!
I'm only 1/2 way thru but GREAT VID so far!!!
I was always so close to buying one of these! These could and should have been a homerun for Ruger. They are still really good guns but Ruger went all saftey Nancy in a world full of tactical poly wonders. I love Ruger and I own a few, I just wish they could get into the ring with the big boys in the semi automatic world.
These pistols are definitely underrated or under appreciated. I’ve had 2 SR40cs and regret selling them. Features for the price is unmatched still.
You took me back Hop! The SR9C is the first handgun I bought for concealed carry over 10 years ago. Fit my hand like a glove. Has a great trigger, And yes, I superglued the sleeve on the 17 round magazines. Later bought the 9E to compliment my Ruger PC carbine.
I'm going to subscribe, I need your depressing and lethargic take on guns. Also, did you know that if you search Hoplopf, you get nothing but German children's channels?
Easy fix for stopping sleeve sliding off. Put a piece of electrical tape on the front or back of the magazine at the bottom no longer than the sleeve, still loose add a piece on the opposite side.
Good info.. Good video. Thank you. I like this pistol and have shot it before. I've had P95 years and I like SR9 better. I wish they used the same mag. Would have made me more inclined to buy an SR9. I still may own one one of these days.. who knows.
Keep up the well informed quality content! I enjoy watching and you really know what's going on!
Can you do a revisit on the SR9c and how it stacks up today? This was my first gun and I'm still feeling like it holds up really well
My first CCW specific gun was a Ruger LC9s Pro. It was a super reliable little gun. Not a fan of their newer pistols but I do have a 16" MPR that has run flawlessly.
Lol u said the 17 rounder without a spacer will pinch? Honestly its more trimmed and easier concealed without that spacer. Never had any problems as my edc
The SR9c was so far ahead of its time.
If you have weaker or arthritic hands Good luck loading a Hellcat from a full magazine! The SR9c is easy to load. If you have a short thumb you can release the magazine with your index finger on the right side of the SR9c!
If you were trained and used the 1911 with a safety, then the SR9c Is familiar and reassuring. And there is no faster pistol to confirm loader chamber, visual or tactile, than the SR9c.
Keep the same type of slim, sleek frame design but have more aggressive slide serrations, a rail for more options of accessories, slide with an optics mount, ambidextrous slide release to match the other ambi controls, and slightly more aggressive grip texture. I prefer the peep hole indicator over the raised flag. Home run! This is just off the top of my head. Will meet with the engineers tomorrow morning. Let's do this! 😅
No other pistol has a faster and more reassuring loaded round indicator than an SR when you are awakened in the middle of the night and it is pitch dark!
I say let form follow function.
A couple of quick observations. I have owned three of these so far. My first two had the mat stainless steel finish that you are showing here. The one I actually picked up today from the gun store is one with the shiny slide and the different back plates. I was a bit taken back when I saw that. Because I knew the two I had before were nothing like that. And I wondered why this thing was so damn shiny. But after watching your video, you definitely answer that question for me. And I wanted to say thank you for that. That definitely helped clear up some things for me. That and some other research that I did. However, there is a couple of things I would like to disagree with you on. Mainly the manual safety. I personally think it’s a good idea for it to be there. Again, it’s just my opinion. I am a huge fan of 1911 pistols. And as we all know, they have a manual safety as well so I am used to those. I guess that’s why this one doesn’t bother me. Now as for the loaded gun indicator. It could have been a bit less obvious let’s say. When it was loaded you could’ve had just like a little red notch that popped up or something or with my Ruger SR 1911 when it’s loaded, it just has like a little opening where you can glance in and see the round in the chamber. But on the flipside, it is nice that it’s there. Even if it is a little oversized lol but I do actually like having it there. Again, just my opinion, my friend. Overall, I will agree that I think Ruger gave up on this way too soon. These are good firearms. The design is good. I’ve always been happy with the ones I have owned. They’ve all been top-notch weapons. And I guess that’s why that even though Ruger has discontinued them that they have almost a colts falling. These guns people really like. You don’t see them come up for sale that much in the wild. when you do they generally run around $299 and up. Usually it depends on if it has both of the magazines with it or if it comes with the Crimson trace laser. Which the one I picked up today did. Unfortunately it only came with the 17 round mag. I will have to track down one of the 10 round mags. So it looks like the one I picked up today is one of the original versions of this pistol. If it performs as well as the other two did, then, I know I will be extremely satisfied and happy with this firearm.
Hops reviews are always legit . Thanks for the Pros and cons . Keep up the good work Hop 👍
I love the SR9 and the SR9C. I love the thumb safety and would not carry a gun live chambered without it. I also love the pop up loaded chamber indicator, and this is why I choose SR9 over Glock and just about every other similar sized 9mm carry gun. The best part is the smooth short light trigger which the thumb safety affords. Glock triggers travel a mile before shooting, and they have to because there is no thumb safety. Sure, you could modify the trigger and make it travel less on a Glock, but you just make the gun much more dangerous to carry.
The SR40C is actually good (as far as compact 40's go). If they had upgraded the sights and grip texture, left the mag disconnect off, and fixed the camblock pin problem then they would still have a competitive pistol. Jumping ship for the RAP just to throw a backplate and a new chassis system on their flagship was a mistake and they knew there was no way they were getting any contracts with that thing. The Security 9 is a decent budget pistol but I don't like the things. Unfortunately it looks like they're riding the budget train to the end of the line.
And the Lemon Larabars are ok.
I can't deny the SR series including the 9E were actually pretty good guns especially for the money.
You may have saved my firing pin, didn't realize it could break like that, thx
"Backed the right conceptual horse"
Is that a Rick & Morty reference?
Ruger included the safety and other features because it was persuing a government contract. "Growing up" on a Colt 1911, the safety does not bother me. Nor does the loaded chamber indicator. The best feature of the SR9 is the ergonomic feel. I have many shooters pick up the SR9 and remark how "comfortable" it is. They shoot well and are very reliable. Affordable also. I have owned many expensive pistols that were not as good.
As much as i want to go and get a P-Series, or even an SR, most likely thing would be getting a stock G48 or a T.O.R.O. instead. I really wish i had funny money to experience the novelty of the older Ruger autos.
9:35 Real review starts here.
I've had my SR9c over 5 yrs now, I may retire it, but never get rid of it.
A few correctable problems, it still performs in an excellent manner.
With all of your complaining, why did you buy a Ruger
Got mine when they were round $500. Didnt even even know they made a downgraded cheaper version. Love my sr9c. Awesome review and thanks.
In fairness to the gun, (a) the thumb safety is easy to flick off, but much harder to flick on, so there's not much chance of accidentally flicking it on, and (b) the loaded chamber indicator is NOT visible when looking down the sights. As to the magazine disconnect, I've never needed one, but I have known cops who did, when they were fighting over their gun. Conversely, I've never heard of an armed citizen who HAD a magazine disconnect, where it somehow cost him his life in a gunfight. (Competition is a different story, of course.) So for me, the disconnect is a non-issue.
I have both, the SR9c shoots a lot better. Glock is overrated
I like the Security 9 a lot. I have shot the piss out of the one I have. There are better guns, but I find it charming for whatever reason.
I held my Hellcat over my SR9C without the magazines and I lined up the triggers, the rear of the slides, and the bottom of the grips perfectly only the front of the slide was longer on the SR9C at just under 3/4 of an inch due in part to a longer barrel.
Folks, that's amazing.
And after all the hoopla, research and development that went into making the microguns like the Hellcat and p365 they each now have multiple larger iterations That put them at the same or larger size than the SR9c!
I've had an SR9 since they were new. More than 2000 rounds through it. No issues or malfunctions. An excellent pistol. Only problem was lack of aftermarket support. Good luck finding a quality holster beyond a serpa. (The magazine "safety" is easily user removed)
Thanks for putting out more videos man! Do you have a patreon?
Nope
@@Hoplopfheil a PayPal address for tips, homey.
Have a SR 40 and adjusted the rear sight to my eyes but was easy as pie to do! I agree they RUGER stopped production to soon on the SR series!
Love all your videos Hop! When I found out that you had your own channel I rushed to watch them all. Besides your witty commentary I find the main reason I watch is because of your set locations. I live in the Willamette Valley in Oregon, and I feel like I could accidentally run into you on a back road. One weird question I have for you. How do you think the Remington R51 looks? (Just aesthetic wise, we all know they run like shit). I personally love direct blowbacks with the recoil spring over the barrel.
I think it looks great! It's a shame it was such a disaster because I think it kind of soured the market on any more "smooth" retro style pistols. My R51 is semi-reliable but shooting it is an awful experience.
I wish Ruger would of updated the SR9 instead of creating the American 9 or even the security 9.
The Larabar commentary is hilarious!
Keep em comming hop i love em
"i wanted to buy a ruger"
big oof there chief
I was young. Well, younger.
@@Hoplopfheil shoulda got a CEEZEE 😎👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
@@mabs9503 go drink your soy latte, Mabsy
@@Hoplopfheil ok
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The 1911 they did isn't half bad for the price.
Kinda missleading saying the sr9 was downgraded. All they have changed on this gun over the years is they UPGRADED something on the trigger and they RENOVATED the striker plate for a cleaner look. Literally the opposite of what you are saying. As affordable as this gun is, they aren't going to customize it for you like a loaded baked potato, that's part of the joy of being a gun owner. You gotta do all that yourself. Maybe the socialists are invading the gun enthusiasts now idk but yes in a real world we work for things. Nobody is sitting around waiting for us to tell them our dreams so they can wave a wand and make them come true, we gotta get up and go make em happen, it's the joy of being American :) And if you want a gun without safety features go buy a Glock or a Sig lol. You admit that not having a slightly polished slide is BETTER than having it, a person might call that an upgrade :) You stoned bro? The ONLY thing a person could say they "cheaped out" on is some newer ones (like yours) coming out with black extractors which you totally failed to mention, which is supposedly a factory mistake which their warranty department will fix for free. That's because Ruger is a high quality manufacturer, they don't make junk like you are trying to say. The only reason the price has gotten cheaper is because everything gets cheaper after years of production, that doesn't mean they have reduced the quality of the gun. If anyone wants an honest review of this gun go check out Hickock 45 channel!
I can agree with you. I love ruger
I bought two of the SR9C's years ago and have shot the hell out of them, carried them and shot IDPA matches with them,never had a problem of any kind with them. Best value I ever found in a handgun. Since I don't have a fullsize SR9 I did take and put a drop of the clear Gorilla super glue under the sleeves on the 17 round magazines, worked perfectly.
I have an early production SR9c. It had to go home twice for the failure to reset issue and the updated extractor. She's been running fine since. I'm kinda surprised the SR series has been discontinued.
What I think Ruger should do:
Revamp the EC9s as their main budget carry
Revamp the SR9 series as their main carry/compact line
Bring back and revamp their P series pistols as their full-size/premium pistols
Love the mini review at the end. I think the "best" Larabar is the Apple Pie. No chocolate chips in that thing.
With upcoming right shoulder surgery, this will be my left hand concealed carry pistol, with ambi safety and mag release. I might be slower, but I'll still be armed. Semper Fi
You have good points. I have a first issue, came with a conventional trigger that was recalled for installation of the glock type replacement. Upgraded to oversized fixed night sights and a cerakote finish on the slide. Magazine disconnect is poorly rendered mechanically. Under rated player. They should have focused on SR instead of the American and Security series. SR full sized is more like a Glock 45 than a 19, full sized grip with compact slide.
You know, I've been foisting this opinion for a long time on people, or at least a variant of it. Constantly, I will burden friends and influences and mods on your Discord server with my tedious complaint that Ruger should nix the Security 9 and the American pistol both and create two new lines of handguns. I think an updated SR series with these features you just mentioned and the lock-up and take-down of the American pistol would absolutely slay the polymer-frame market, especially if they went back to the sleek, non-ugly look the SR series had. I also think they should make another line of DA/SA Sig knock-offs and try again with the alloy-frame P-series though admittedly with some very purposeful design changes to again reduce takedown time and get rid of mag disconnects; maybe a frame-mounted safety/decocker just for good measure. Not pushing down the ejector on the American or having to push a pin through the frame is a wonderful advancement compared to the original design in terms of function and the lock-up on those pistols is really cool but all the bits and bobs on the outside are sheer garbage, and nobody wants a square sitting on the web of their thumb and forefinger.
Pushing the ejector down was a novel way to avoid pulling the trigger during takedown, way back on the P series. It definitely shouldn't stick around now.
I always wanted the SR9C. I haven’t seen one in ages, though
I believe the SR9 series also had drop safety issues and they subsequently added the trigger blade. Back when I was getting interested in firearms way before I was capable of buying one, I remember reading about this issue. However, I remember liking how modern they looked.
You nailed it on what the SR9 could of been... I called the SR40 shortly after the SR9... I had bought the SR9 before the trigger recall... After I called the SR40 soon after they released the SR45 and I was praying for an SR10 Lol... I was happy though when Ruger finally put out the the SR 1911 in 10mm... #SemperFidelis 🇺🇲
My SR 40 is easy to upgrade I added my 3.5 LBS Ghost Rocket reset bar, talon and rubber grips to fit my hand! added a 22 LBS recoil spring and a heavy striker bar spring and a stainless steel indictor bar! With stainless steel pins that locks trigger assembly to the frame! and adjusted sights to my eyes and target so super accurate gun! Only 300 plus dollars do not remember the total price! And its a AMERICAN GUN! I also feel they cut the SR series and the P94 series guns short!
When I saw the Ruger American I cringed. When I got my first gun it was right around then time the SR9 released and I actually was going to buy it. But for $125 less they had the P95 on clearance with 3 mags new in box. I decided to go with the P95 as I wasnt sold on all the safeties and I thought that the loaded chamber indicator ruined an otherwise gorgeous looking pistol. I always thought they were going to come around and correct it with getting rid of all those terrible safeties. Instead they released the much clunkier and altogether ugly Ruger American. Guess I have to wait another generation to hope Ruger makes something better. I always liked that their style was so distinctly different from Glock. But the Ruger American really, really, upset me. Idk why but it kind of broke my heart.
What's the problem with the manual safety? The trigger blade isn't a proper safety. It doesn't prevent you from inserting your finger in the guard and pulling the trigger. It's only good for preventing the trigger from pulling ITSELF if you drop the gun.
The trigger creep on this gun is terrible. I hate a gritty trigger. It's not noticeable when firing live rounds, but it's indicative of cheap junk. It's basically a dressed up Glock.
The first 9 millimeter I ever bought was a P89 . I still don't know why I traded it ? Oh yeah , LOVE the candy bar review ! That thing does suck !
Hey you weren't by chance up here in Washington state hunting Roosevelt elk while in Shelton were ya? If so I listened to your whole story. Thought man this guy sounds familiar
I want an sr9c to this day
I do agree with you, the SR9 definitely had a potential.
However i do not agree with downgrading the tactile loaded chamber indicator to a peephole to save money.
The extractor on a Glock doubles as a tactile LCI. A much better design than adding extra parts.
@@Hoplopfheil I see nothing wrong with either designs from a user's perspective, just fine tuning where necessary.
Glock's LCI video from a YT.. ber
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