I notice two things watching this compilation. 1) It's the same train wreck each time. 2) The whistle sound is exactly like the train on Petticoat Junction.
Exactly. I caught the whistle sound effect right away. I figured out several years ago, after having been to a "whistle blow" event (hook up an adapter muffle to a city steam supply and have collectors bring in about 100 different whistles for about six hours), that the archival whistle sound used for both these scenes and for Petticoat Junction was from a Southern Pacific homemade six chime whistle. There is no mistaking it if you hear it in person. It certainly was not from any whistle used by the Sierra Railway (their number #3 served as the Hooterville Cannonball, heavily cosmetically altered). It really is a great whistle sound.
The train whistle sounding like Petticoat Junction isn't surprising. The Addams Family and Petticoat Junction were originally made by the same tv company.
As I understand it, in the original comics by Charles Addams, the character actually did not have a name. When the TV show was being developed, he recommended either Gomez or Repelli for the character’s name, leaving it up to John Astin to make the final decision.
I grew up with the animated show in the 90's and boy was I shock when my parents told me that Gomez was voice by the original Gomez. Man he's wonderful!
I have that Addams family Super "O" layout at my house. No explosives though. It was originally built for a Twilight Zone episode in 1960 by the Lionel display department.
No explosives? Why else would you play with trains haha! Jokes aside that’s awesome! Is that a recreation of the Super O layout? For years I wanted to build it using 027 track
@@richardstrainsandmore Yeah an exact remake. I would send you a picture of it if I had an email you want it sent to. As far as making it out of O27, it would not come out right because Super "O" is 36" diameter on center. Plus you need the 30 degree angles the switches come off at to make it work.
Yeah in 027 it can’t be an exact duplicate piece for piece but I did assemble an 027 test on a 4x8 board once. It did fit and work but needed special track sections to be cut. Your layout wouldn’t happen to be the recreation done here is it? www.tcastation.org/info.asp?t=Trackage&colnum=10&submit=go
You’ve got a sharp eye for every detail, right down to the control panel. That’s an amazing piece of work! How long did it take you to perfectly recreate it?
I don’t know if Lionel sponsored the Super O layout (there’s AMT cars and older Lionel products and it’s from a Twilight Zone episode) but I’m fairly sure they had something to do with the 031 layout because there were newer trains
@Ralph Goober - Slot cars were very popular when you were a kid! The Sears Christmas did not have a train set in 1965, but several slot car sets. Seems most boys I knew had a train set, slot car set, or both. Marx, Lionel, & Tyco did offer combination train & slot car sets.
Isn't it funny how they'll use the SAME EXACT crash clip from the very first episode? Seriously, always keep an eye on the background in the crash/explosion shot, and you'll spot Gomez and the School Staff Character in the background! Pretty funny and a weird recycle use of footage!
Crazy isn’t it? Did they think no one would notice?! It gets worse when they switched to a different layout and the same Crash is still played. I even remember catching that goof when I watched the show as a kid on TV
@@richardstrainsandmore i guess they probably had a discussion on bringing the frame much closer so you wouldn't notice the background...it must cost a lot to even get that single shot! Even though it is a goof we all notice, i cant help but see it as an unintentional running gag haha
True, Gomez finally got his chance to blow up that steamer! I could be wrong but didn’t they use balsa wood models for that scene cause the Lionel engines wouldn’t fly apart like they wanted?
Actually if you look really close at the last shot, the diesels aren't moving at all. The are just parked face to face when the bridge moves, the fire starts and the steam engine comes to a stop. Clever editing makes it look like they just crashed. But they are clearly stopped except for the steam engine.
Yep you're right no cursing and no blood shed I'm sure they made certain those shrunken heads Wednesday and Pugsley had been playing around on the series have been completely drained of blood..
I remember watching the 1st? movie and Morticia and kids were listening to Gomez wrecking the trains. She called out every move every train made until the explotion! 🤯. It reminded me of the TV show. Anyone who watch the show and noticed details, knew it was the same wreck. People who studies explotions knows there is no such thing as identical wrecks/explotions!
I can only presume staging multiple wreck scenes would’ve racked up production costs. Not to mention how many takes to get the the explosion and trains timed just right. They probably assumed no one would notice the recycled shot, even when they switched to a whole different train layout
@@jojomayard7233 I’m almost certain that air horn heard at 2:56 was from a GG1 like in this video below. The rest were likely pulled from a sound effects library. ua-cam.com/video/0-5iT4KPXkw/v-deo.html
Gotta love how he pulls the ZW handles to "switch tracks". Or pulling back to speed up when that would normally slow down. ZW's are the best! Using mine to power tmcc.
That goof always bugged me cause moving the ZW handles like that only slows down one train and speeds up another. It won’t switch tracks! Oh well it’s only a TV show. I’ve got 2 ZWs myself and both are powerhouses with postwar equipment
Some familiar train sound effects here; I recognized the steam locomotive whistle from "Petticoat Junction" in the second clip, and I also heard the GG1 horn from the old Looney Tunes cartoons! (such as at 3:24) And of course that stock explosion sound effect that the old MGM, Warner Bros. and Hanna-Barbera cartoons used.
Good catch! I never realized that’s the same whistle as the Hooterville Cannonball. Sort of bizarre since Addams Family was on ABC networks and Petticoat Junction was CBS
@@richardstrainsandmore Yep, I know the Cannonball's whistle is on the Hanna-Barbera Sound Effects Library from Sound Ideas, along with that explosion sound.
If you'll note in the episode where Uncle Fester is powering the layout. At the beginning of the skit, you may note that the crossing gate arm is almost at the edge of the board. A considerable distance from the train track. That is a detail that I would correct on my version of the season two layout.
I’m sure the set designers had practically zero knowledge on model railroading but that’s a good catch. It looks to be a plasticville non operating crossing gate
You know all those train collisions are the same scene. I understand this. The television studio must have had a limited budget, and couldn't afford to blow up multiple train sets, so re-use the scene. Anyway, I wish I could have blown-up my train set like that when I was 9. :(
I’m sure a lot of kids wanted to after watching this show. My father always said he tried as a kid with a Lionel 2018 and 221 but all it ever did was make a loud “KLUNK” sound and derail the engines. I’ve always wondered though how many retakes it required to get that explosion scene just right...
Nothing is wrong with the breaker. That built-in breaker was implemented to protect the transformer not the trains. However to get it to respond faster you need to use a heavy #14 copper wire loop under your layout with often #18 gauge drops to the track to cut the resistance out of the formula. The built-in breaker has to be 13 amp to handle the 275 watts. Most of the time a derailment will not draw 13 amps, hence it will not blow or not blow until an enormous amount of time lapses, by then something is melting or smoking. You should be using supplementary Lionel #91 circuit breakers for each leg of the ZW; A, B, C, D. Those work ideal and do not have the thermal delay of the built-in ZW type. They will trip at a blink of a eye flawlessly and are adjustable from 1 to 6 amps. Lionel intended you to use these as a supplement to your ZW. If you chose not to, you are going to get smoke when you get a short circuit or derailment.
It looks like two different train layouts. I have had a few "Poof" moments on my layout, such as a track cleaning car, filled with alcohol, catching fire from sparks from the spinning wheels of the locomotives as the heavy freight train passed by. Good video. ♡ T.E.N.
Good eye they did use 2 different layouts, presumably the first layout was damaged from storage or on stage and a second layout was constructed. And thanks!!
A LITTLE bit? Hahaha. John Astin has explained how that was always his take on the character, as a sendup of Groucho. From mustache to cigar to phrasing to timing. And the of course Raul Julia played HIM.
If Gomez knew sir topham hat Gomez you have caused confusion and delay, Gomez, oh I thought crashing trains was fun No, your gonna go to your shed Gomez. No it isn’t goodbye.
It appears that whern the trains are just going around the track the Sante Fe locomotive is an O27 Alco. However, on the bridge it appears to be an O scale Sante Fe. Looks to be a beat up 2343 because it has side ladders, front grab irons, and real port holes. Also, the back truck is silver. But, tyhe front truck seems to be black?
Yup you are correct those are Auburn or AMT cars. I have no idea why the production team chose those over Lionels. My only guess is they were cheap used and they knew they would be destroyed during filming
@@richardstrainsandmore The movie is a real mishmash too. The passenger train is a Northern Pacific set, but stop the movie at the right place, you can see the tender says New York Central. Lots of Marx or K-Line stuff in the background too. Opening shot of the steam loco shows a Marx looking tower in the background, a shot of the diesel with a turntable and yard in the background shows two Marx or K-Line cars. the boxcar (With the distinctive Pullman "Bow tie" style roof panels) and the covered twin hopper, plus an old cheapie plastic Marx engine in the background. On top of that, a prewar box style Lionel tender behind a 1980s steamer.
You’ve got a good eye they really did throw a lot of mixed stuff on that layout. It sounds as if they went to a train store/convention and bought used or junked items for background scenes, which might explain why a prewar tender is behind a newer plastic 0-4-0. They used two steam engines, mostly an 8609 and 8606 at the end, in various scenes but kept the 8606’s NYC tender even when the 8609 was shown. I can’t figure out why they mishmashed them either! I actually recently bought an 8606 with correct NYC tender and I’m thinking of reenacting some of those scenes, without blowing it up of course!
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John Astin's portrayal of the Gomez Adams character actually looks a whole lot like the famous trumpet player Bunny Berigan, who was himself a doomed character in real life. I wonder if there was any real inference intended by either Mr. Astin, or the studio execs?
So I wasn’t the only one who thought Gomez resembled Bunny Berigan! It could’ve been a strange coincidence although you’re right both had doomed lives. Interesting.
0:13 me running my trains :D also what an epic showdown, gp7 vs f3. And didn't they use tubular and super o layouts, you know like switching between different layouts
Lol! And 2:49 is me when I get angry over a locomotive that won’t run! You’re correct they had two different layouts, a 5x9 super O and then a 4x8 031 tubular. Presumably the super O layout got destroyed which is why the second layout debuted
Oh ok, I was wondering why half way through the show the layout switched I thought maybe Gomez needed a new one because he "wrecked all of his trains".
HAHA!! That would’ve been awesome to see Gomez literally blowing up his entire layout then having to build another. Of course all those postwar pieces would’ve been creamed though...
I believe it is the same whistle just pulled from a stock sound effects library. Being how Petticoat Junction and Addams Family were airing on TV around the same time I wonder if viewers also noticed it was the same whistle
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They miss one favorite episode clip of a train wreck right after Gomez makes his wreck Morticia I think she grabs him and says in a joyous tone "Gomez you're the perfect saboteur" that quote had always stayed in my mind...Anybody guess know why that was omitted? I guess that word had been omitted since 9/11.
If you read the description there’s a part 2 with the other 2 episodes that featured the layout. ua-cam.com/video/VZ7ghPp-8Bk/v-deo.html it’s here at 1:48. And it’s “You’re a born sabateur”
@@richardstrainsandmore thank you Richards think just saw your message now I never got the notification that you left me this notice. I'll check it out thanks very much please take care and stay safe during this pandemic hope we will pull through and be over this catastrophe in so many ways it has been bad. Thanks good luck
Well Dark Helmet I’m not sure. There are claims it was invented for the show but there’s also a cartoon Charles Addams drew for the New Yorker depicting Pugsley controlling a Lionel train with people onboard. I’m sure somebody else will now, ask Colonel Sandurz. Alright I’ll cut the jokes.
On the original layout, I can identify the lighted AIREX billboard, the corral, the Lionel girder bridge, the rotating beacon tower (then it was replaced by a water tower in a scene), a trestle, plasticville crossing gates, and a gatemans house on the corner, and some street lamps. Would anyone know what the rest of the layout accessories are on the 1st season (1964-1965) layout are please? Also, was the layout painted green or was Lionel grass used? I'm having quite a dilemma on what layout to attempt to build. I like both layouts in the series and it's difficult to decide on. Also, "IF" THE ADDAMS FAMILY were made TODAY, would Gomez exclusively use Lionel's & MTH "HALLOWEEN" trains for his permanent layout? Therefore, a possible 3rd option. Any help and/or advice will GREATLY be appreciated. But, I do need to know all of the 1st seasons layout accessories. I humbly thank you in advance.
The rest of the accessories are a culvert loader and unloader, operating milk car platform, Lionel dispatch board, banjo signal, newsstand, and operating forklift platform. As a side note the crossing gates are regular Lionel 252s and the water tower is a rotary beacon with a shed placed over it, probably a victim of rough handling by studio crews. As far as either of the 2 layouts I would go for the 1st season’s super O layout for the impressive elevated section and all the operating accessories. The second layout doesn’t have any switches or accessories. You could always swap out the hard to find super O track for 027 or 031 and still use the same track plan on a 5x8 board. I don’t know whether the layout was covered in grass however it appears there’s a felt covering of some sort that almost certainly would’ve been green. Likely the same green used on postwar Lionel dealer displays. There was a reboot of the Addams Family series in the 90s/2000s and Gomez used starter set Lionel 4-4-2 locomotives in a much less exiting crash scene. I have a hunch Gomez would opt for modern stuff that ran fast and could do damage!
My apologies for the late reply but stock recordings were basically libraries of sound effects TV shows or movies could license to use. Usually they were issued on LP albums and likely reel to reels. A common example was Hanna Barbera and also Spongebob where many of their audio effects were grabbed from stock recordings, which is also why you hear the same sound effects repeated so often :)
I remember reading somewhere that in the original script for the 1990 movie, the trains were going to be a bigger part of the movie and there were a lot more crashes planned. The problem they eventually ran into was that the Lionel trains were so tough, they couldn't really damage them. They would derail, but that was about it. In the one crash they actually did shoot for the movie, they ended up making "look alikes" of the engines they were using out of lead and other soft materials and basically catapulting them into one another so they would crush and buckle during the collision, on top of filling them with mini pyrotechnics to make them explode. I guess it ended up being more of a job than they figured on, so they only did one. Now Lionel trains are junk made in China like everything else.
When you have as much money and a spend crazy attitude of Gomez, you’re gonna have a bunch of trains on standby for when he’s in the mood to play with them again.
Why? Thicker, cheaper (?) (There were some things more correct about these I think. Maybe isolated for two rail?) Maybe out of stock. ....actually... Aren't those possibly even older and a set of Auburn's ?
Could be Auburn, I just assumed AMT because they’re the same style as my AMT Pennsylvania cars. My best guess is the production crew used what resources they had on hand even if they weren’t brand new, AMT passenger cars, 6464 Alaska Railroad boxcar, 2343 F3, Lionel cars with bar end trucks, etc.
I want to build an exact replica of the 2nd train layout that was used in the series. Would anyone have any photos of the 2nd layout available to share?
The short clips in this video are all that probably exist of that layout. It appears to be a 4x8 board using 2 loops of 031 track, one is an elongated figure 8 in the middle, the outer uses a 110 trestle set with a 321 trestle bride on top of a 332 arch bridge. In the center is a 494 Rotary Beacon, several 76 Street lamps, 310 billboards (one of which is on top of some sort of cardboard sided factory), and plasticville crossing gates. The layout surface color was likely a light green as was most Lionel layouts of the day
My dad bought me the exact same silver stream liner depicted near the end of this video. It was a Lionel. I never blew it up, but, did crash it through little plastic bricks.
That’s still a problem with DC powered trains but with AC powered O scale (the scale used in the show) the locomotive’s direction is controlled by an E-unit rather than current polarity so technically you can have two trains on the same track going opposite directions, even have them collide head on!
There is no problem running two trains against each other on 3 rails AC layout, even loop to turn train around is not a problem. With 2 rails DC, it will short circuit. With 3 rails, positive is in middle rail, therefore no problem to have loops or run trains in different directions..
They recycled that footage of the bridge exploding in every episode and as a kid I never noticed.
Except for that episode where he doesn't wreck the trains in which pusgley, is not in the mood for doing it so.
if you freeze it at 1:05 at the right frame. you will notice that Morticia turns into Sam Hillard.
Thats the problem with a clip collection like this. You start to notice these things😆
LOL thinkin the same!
It's funny how much Gomez resembles a demented Walt Disney - who was also a train enthusiast.
At least Gomez wasn't a nazi
Gomez: "Why else would a grown man play with trains?"
@Royce Reid That's why you KEEP trains. Not the same thing as playing with them. Clearly, Gomez never cared. :-)
Gomez was prob a shareholder. Had a hundred sets out the back lol
Exactly
You wanna blow the next bridge?
I would
I notice two things watching this compilation. 1) It's the same train wreck each time. 2) The whistle sound is exactly like the train on Petticoat Junction.
Exactly. I caught the whistle sound effect right away. I figured out several years ago, after having been to a "whistle blow" event (hook up an adapter muffle to a city steam supply and have collectors bring in about 100 different whistles for about six hours), that the archival whistle sound used for both these scenes and for Petticoat Junction was from a Southern Pacific homemade six chime whistle. There is no mistaking it if you hear it in person. It certainly was not from any whistle used by the Sierra Railway (their number #3 served as the Hooterville Cannonball, heavily cosmetically altered). It really is a great whistle sound.
Yep, and I also recognized the train horn sound at 3:24 from the old Warner Bros. cartoons (I think it's a recording of a GG1 electric locomotive.)
The train whistle sounding like Petticoat Junction isn't surprising. The Addams Family and Petticoat Junction were originally made by the same tv company.
You're absolutely right I just made a comment about the train footage and I heard the whistle and thought of Petticoat Junction when I heard it
13thBear Yep, plus I noticed they attached the steam locomotive to a freight car without its tender.
Look at that manaical gleam that's always present in Jon Astin's eyes! Was there ever a better Gomez, although Raul Julia came close.
I say both John Astin & Raul Julia did a great job doing their own versions of Gomez
Agreed!
As I understand it, in the original comics by Charles Addams, the character actually did not have a name. When the TV show was being developed, he recommended either Gomez or Repelli for the character’s name, leaving it up to John Astin to make the final decision.
Lol
His expression at 3:31 is priceless
I grew up with the animated show in the 90's and boy was I shock when my parents told me that Gomez was voice by the original Gomez. Man he's wonderful!
I have that Addams family Super "O" layout at my house. No explosives though. It was originally built for a Twilight Zone episode in 1960 by the Lionel display department.
No explosives? Why else would you play with trains haha! Jokes aside that’s awesome! Is that a recreation of the Super O layout? For years I wanted to build it using 027 track
@@richardstrainsandmore Yeah an exact remake. I would send you a picture of it if I had an email you want it sent to. As far as making it out of O27, it would not come out right because Super "O" is 36" diameter on center. Plus you need the 30 degree angles the switches come off at to make it work.
Yeah in 027 it can’t be an exact duplicate piece for piece but I did assemble an 027 test on a 4x8 board once. It did fit and work but needed special track sections to be cut. Your layout wouldn’t happen to be the recreation done here is it?
www.tcastation.org/info.asp?t=Trackage&colnum=10&submit=go
@@richardstrainsandmore That's it all right. I just took some better pictures with a new camera. Looks way more colorful than the one in the link.
You’ve got a sharp eye for every detail, right down to the control panel. That’s an amazing piece of work! How long did it take you to perfectly recreate it?
A few wrecked trains helped Lionel sell a few thousand. In the 60's train manufacturers were hurting for sales.
I don’t know if Lionel sponsored the Super O layout (there’s AMT cars and older Lionel products and it’s from a Twilight Zone episode) but I’m fairly sure they had something to do with the 031 layout because there were newer trains
@Ralph Goober - Slot cars were very popular when you were a kid! The Sears Christmas did not have a train set in 1965, but several slot car sets.
Seems most boys I knew had a train set, slot car set, or both. Marx, Lionel, & Tyco did offer combination train & slot car sets.
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Morticia: We must accept our friends for what they are.
Thing: Dude, get a ring on that finger pronto!
It was sweet seeing them when they first met, or at that first magic moment.
Isn't it funny how they'll use the SAME EXACT crash clip from the very first episode? Seriously, always keep an eye on the background in the crash/explosion shot, and you'll spot Gomez and the School Staff Character in the background! Pretty funny and a weird recycle use of footage!
Crazy isn’t it? Did they think no one would notice?! It gets worse when they switched to a different layout and the same Crash is still played. I even remember catching that goof when I watched the show as a kid on TV
@@richardstrainsandmore i guess they probably had a discussion on bringing the frame much closer so you wouldn't notice the background...it must cost a lot to even get that single shot! Even though it is a goof we all notice, i cant help but see it as an unintentional running gag haha
Hey, even toy train wrecks are expensive.
It was the same film loop everytime.It saved the show money,too.
@@WillScarlet16 A friend showed me his Lionel 1965 catalog. I think a pair of Santa Fe F3 diesel locomotives retailed for $ 65.
The steamer avoids getting wrecked every time! The diesels are the ones getting bashed all the time
Maybe Gomez hates diesels and blows them up instead lol! Although at 1:29 there’s a wrecked Lionel 2037 steamer on its side so who knows
Then came the movie where the other steamer had a head on collision
True, Gomez finally got his chance to blow up that steamer! I could be wrong but didn’t they use balsa wood models for that scene cause the Lionel engines wouldn’t fly apart like they wanted?
Actually if you look really close at the last shot, the diesels aren't moving at all. The are just parked face to face when the bridge moves, the fire starts and the steam engine comes to a stop. Clever editing makes it look like they just crashed. But they are clearly stopped except for the steam engine.
Gomez would have made a good Amtrak engineer.
Ditto
Better yet......he would have made an excellent air traffic controller, especially the way he put two trains on the same track. Go, go Gomez!!
He would make a killer brightline driver too.
I was thinking more like Island of Sodor engineer.
No, Gomez belongs on CSX.
I'm 60 years old reminds me of when I was in grade school again loved every episode did you notice there was no Bloodshed no cussing just pure humor
Yep you're right no cursing and no blood shed I'm sure they made certain those shrunken heads Wednesday and Pugsley had been playing around on the series have been completely drained of blood..
I loved watching the Adams Family!
0:59 the old whistle from Sierra Railway 3
Okay. Morticia and Gomez are couple goals.
I remember watching the 1st? movie and Morticia and kids were listening to Gomez wrecking the trains. She called out every move every train made until the explotion! 🤯. It reminded me of the TV show.
Anyone who watch the show and noticed details, knew it was the same wreck. People who studies explotions knows there is no such thing as identical wrecks/explotions!
I can only presume staging multiple wreck scenes would’ve racked up production costs. Not to mention how many takes to get the the explosion and trains timed just right. They probably assumed no one would notice the recycled shot, even when they switched to a whole different train layout
@@richardstrainsandmore SR #3's old whistle 2:34 SP #4449's air horn 2:56 ASTF #3751's 6 chime whistle 3:03
@@jojomayard7233 I’m almost certain that air horn heard at 2:56 was from a GG1 like in this video below. The rest were likely pulled from a sound effects library.
ua-cam.com/video/0-5iT4KPXkw/v-deo.html
Gotta love how he pulls the ZW handles to "switch tracks". Or pulling back to speed up when that would normally slow down.
ZW's are the best! Using mine to power tmcc.
That goof always bugged me cause moving the ZW handles like that only slows down one train and speeds up another. It won’t switch tracks! Oh well it’s only a TV show. I’ve got 2 ZWs myself and both are powerhouses with postwar equipment
NOW I GOTTA HAVE THAT RAILROAD BLULKER! I JUST WRECKED MY LAST LOCOMOTIVE!
I just realized that they use the same footage for every crash, and it fits so seamlessly
I enjoy Gomez's joy in destroying trains.
Lol Gomez wrecking the trains had me dying
Edit: My childhood was a lie. All of the Addamses did not have their iconic names until the TV show.
Some familiar train sound effects here; I recognized the steam locomotive whistle from "Petticoat Junction" in the second clip, and I also heard the GG1 horn from the old Looney Tunes cartoons! (such as at 3:24) And of course that stock explosion sound effect that the old MGM, Warner Bros. and Hanna-Barbera cartoons used.
Good catch! I never realized that’s the same whistle as the Hooterville Cannonball. Sort of bizarre since Addams Family was on ABC networks and Petticoat Junction was CBS
@@richardstrainsandmore Yep, I know the Cannonball's whistle is on the Hanna-Barbera Sound Effects Library from Sound Ideas, along with that explosion sound.
Well now that’s interesting. Was the whistle and explosion sound effects ever used elsewhere?
@@richardstrainsandmore I know some of Hanna-Barbera's cartoons used them.
I just took several of those sound effects and used them in this video!
ua-cam.com/video/jxeJjgkGI_M/v-deo.html
Did some research on the Lionel engine at 0:35. She's a Minneapolis & St Louis EMD GP9 No. 2438 built between 1958-1959.
Every wreck should have the recording "THAT'S A FENDER BENDER!!"
You know, that phase would perfectly fit after each wreck haha!!
Thanks to Lionel Traintown for the enjoyment
Steampunk1993 Productions That’s a really good one!
I know that reference!
If you'll note in the episode where Uncle Fester is powering the layout. At the beginning of the skit, you may note that the crossing gate arm is almost at the edge of the board. A considerable distance from the train track. That is a detail that I would correct on my version of the season two layout.
I’m sure the set designers had practically zero knowledge on model railroading but that’s a good catch. It looks to be a plasticville non operating crossing gate
two different layouts one with o gauge tube track and one with super o track
Always loved the train scenes
3:03 the whistle it reminds me a lot of ATSF #3751's 6 Chime whistle
You know all those train collisions are the same scene. I understand this. The television studio must have had a limited budget, and couldn't afford to blow up multiple train sets, so re-use the scene. Anyway, I wish I could have blown-up my train set like that when I was 9. :(
I’m sure a lot of kids wanted to after watching this show. My father always said he tried as a kid with a Lionel 2018 and 221 but all it ever did was make a loud “KLUNK” sound and derail the engines. I’ve always wondered though how many retakes it required to get that explosion scene just right...
Gomez has something against the Santa Fe (F7 and coaches) and the M&StL (Red and white Geep). Got to love it!
I still have the same 275 watt transformer that was used in the show
You mean the 275 watt ZW? The best transformer Lionel ever made, I just wish they’d put a better circuit breaker in it
RichardsTrainsAndMore yes
RichardsTrainsAndMore yes that is the one. You may be able to get a better aftermarket breaker for it.
You’re right you can add an external circuit breaker to it. Should’ve done that before I fried my Lion Chef engine, oops!
Nothing is wrong with the breaker. That built-in breaker was implemented to protect the transformer not the trains. However to get it to respond faster you need to use a heavy #14 copper wire loop under your layout with often #18 gauge drops to the track to cut the resistance out of the formula. The built-in breaker has to be 13 amp to handle the 275 watts. Most of the time a derailment will not draw 13 amps, hence it will not blow or not blow until an enormous amount of time lapses, by then something is melting or smoking. You should be using supplementary Lionel #91 circuit breakers for each leg of the ZW; A, B, C, D. Those work ideal and do not have the thermal delay of the built-in ZW type. They will trip at a blink of a eye flawlessly and are adjustable from 1 to 6 amps. Lionel intended you to use these as a supplement to your ZW. If you chose not to, you are going to get smoke when you get a short circuit or derailment.
I came for the trains but I just HAVE to say this:
9:03 Morticia looks absolutely adorable in that outfit!!!
2:35, isn't that the whistle from Petticoat Junction?
Father's playing with his trains.
Spirits above me,
give me a sign.
Shall I be joyous, or shall I be damned?
This is something I've always wanted to do but never had the money or space for.
TheDUDERulez1 be as insanely rich as Gomez and you’ll have that opportunity
I like the sound of that contrabass saxophone in the background.
It looks like two different train layouts. I have had a few "Poof" moments on my layout, such as a track cleaning car, filled with alcohol, catching fire from sparks from the spinning wheels of the locomotives as the heavy freight train passed by. Good video. ♡ T.E.N.
Good eye they did use 2 different layouts, presumably the first layout was damaged from storage or on stage and a second layout was constructed. And thanks!!
It's that boyish grin, I still laugh to this day.
My favorite parts of a classic show!
Notice how they obviously filmed the train crash / explosion shot once and used the same footage every time?
They’re portrayed as a family of freaks, but if Gomez ever let me play with his train set, I would _totally_ hang out with him.
I just noticed that there was a little bit of Groucho in Gomez!
A LITTLE bit? Hahaha. John Astin has explained how that was always his take on the character, as a sendup of Groucho. From mustache to cigar to phrasing to timing. And the of course Raul Julia played HIM.
I heard that Cousin Itt's room in the attic is up for rent.Dirt cheap!
Isn't John Astin playing Gomez as Groucho Marx? His manner is sure similar.
If Gomez knew sir topham hat
Gomez you have caused confusion and delay,
Gomez, oh I thought crashing trains was fun
No, your gonna go to your shed Gomez.
No it isn’t goodbye.
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Sign me up!
I'll take 1,000 share of Consolidated Lint!
@@vince065us That's the one I was thinking of!
@@robertthomas5196 They say that Big Swamp stock is hot these days!
Ha ha
Morticia looked hot in pigtails......just saying.
Stuart Aaron It is.
It appears that whern the trains are just going around the track the Sante Fe locomotive is an O27 Alco. However, on the bridge it appears to be an O scale Sante Fe. Looks to be a beat up 2343 because it has side ladders, front grab irons, and real port holes. Also, the back truck is silver. But, tyhe front truck seems to be black?
(4:10), Is that guy in the middle Stanley Adams the Tribble sales man from Star Trek?
funny, the circut breaker the hand pulled is a Lionel 1930s prewar piece meanwhile the rest of the layout is 1959-1960
Best Adam train crashes ever !
♦️🌊🐺♦️😎
"If you wreck one train, you can wreck the world."
Anyone else notice the passenger cars behind the F3 aren't Lionel, but appear to be Auburn cars?
Yup you are correct those are Auburn or AMT cars. I have no idea why the production team chose those over Lionels. My only guess is they were cheap used and they knew they would be destroyed during filming
@@richardstrainsandmore The movie is a real mishmash too. The passenger train is a Northern Pacific set, but stop the movie at the right place, you can see the tender says New York Central. Lots of Marx or K-Line stuff in the background too. Opening shot of the steam loco shows a Marx looking tower in the background, a shot of the diesel with a turntable and yard in the background shows two Marx or K-Line cars. the boxcar (With the distinctive Pullman "Bow tie" style roof panels) and the covered twin hopper, plus an old cheapie plastic Marx engine in the background. On top of that, a prewar box style Lionel tender behind a 1980s steamer.
You’ve got a good eye they really did throw a lot of mixed stuff on that layout. It sounds as if they went to a train store/convention and bought used or junked items for background scenes, which might explain why a prewar tender is behind a newer plastic 0-4-0. They used two steam engines, mostly an 8609 and 8606 at the end, in various scenes but kept the 8606’s NYC tender even when the 8609 was shown. I can’t figure out why they mishmashed them either! I actually recently bought an 8606 with correct NYC tender and I’m thinking of reenacting some of those scenes, without blowing it up of course!
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I enjoyed it... nice set up.....
Thank you!
That's an awful lot of damage ....
Gomez...... Naaa that'll just buff out
Never thought I’d see Uncle Fester run out of juice.
Nice Super ‘O’ trackage.
“BOOM!!!” Never gets old!
John Astin's portrayal of the Gomez Adams character actually looks a whole lot like the famous trumpet player Bunny Berigan, who was himself a doomed character in real life. I wonder if there was any real inference intended by either Mr. Astin, or the studio execs?
So I wasn’t the only one who thought Gomez resembled Bunny Berigan! It could’ve been a strange coincidence although you’re right both had doomed lives. Interesting.
@@richardstrainsandmore how was gomez doomed??
Well more of the fact that Gomez led a reckless lifestyle blowing up things or playing with dynamite, stuff that’d surely kill you
@@richardstrainsandmore ok, I can see that!
Is that a Lional Train set?
Somewhere Sheldon Cooper senses a disturbance in the Force.
Good Show Old Man!
0:13 me running my trains :D also what an epic showdown, gp7 vs f3. And didn't they use tubular and super o layouts, you know like switching between different layouts
Lol! And 2:49 is me when I get angry over a locomotive that won’t run! You’re correct they had two different layouts, a 5x9 super O and then a 4x8 031 tubular. Presumably the super O layout got destroyed which is why the second layout debuted
Oh ok, I was wondering why half way through the show the layout switched I thought maybe Gomez needed a new one because he "wrecked all of his trains".
HAHA!! That would’ve been awesome to see Gomez literally blowing up his entire layout then having to build another. Of course all those postwar pieces would’ve been creamed though...
Oh my gosh yes! I could imagine morticia just saying ...it's beautiful darling, ill fetch the children to see I'm sure they'll love it!
I noticed the some of the whistles sound a little like the Hooterville Cannonball.
I believe it is the same whistle just pulled from a stock sound effects library. Being how Petticoat Junction and Addams Family were airing on TV around the same time I wonder if viewers also noticed it was the same whistle
We must accept our friends for what they are. Morticia Adams
Now I know what I want for Christmas.
These are great. So is the first movie's scene.
8:00 I think I've found who's running Amtrak
Is that Lionel he’s using?
Yes he is I’ve ID’ed all the locomotives in the description
That old Lionel transformer was a beast.... It probably could run a real train if it was connected right. ha ha
I connected one up to 480 volt 3 phase one time. It made all the street lights on the Munsters set dim, then explode. True story.
@@funone8716 - I believe you.
Fifteen Years Morning Later
[Yawn]
[Sighs]
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Jon Schloder: Oh Me?
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Mo Malto: Of Course.
Roller Skates Are You Ready For Here Tonight Jon Schloder!
RW:wow even when Pugsly is not in the mood ,the dynamite and fuse are not in a exploding mood either.😕
That scene never really made sense to me, why couldn’t Gomez just reset the dynamite and fuse and try again?
RichardsTrainsAndMore because Gomez In the now kind of person to him the moment was prefect Anything after Wouldn’t feel the same
RW:got a point there Trey.;:-)
Jeez, I LOVED these train wreck scenes...Too bad I immediately set out to wreck my trains also...
They miss one favorite episode clip of a train wreck right after Gomez makes his wreck Morticia I think she grabs him and says in a joyous tone "Gomez you're the perfect saboteur" that quote had always stayed in my mind...Anybody guess know why that was omitted? I guess that word had been omitted since 9/11.
If you read the description there’s a part 2 with the other 2 episodes that featured the layout. ua-cam.com/video/VZ7ghPp-8Bk/v-deo.html it’s here at 1:48. And it’s “You’re a born sabateur”
@@richardstrainsandmore thank you Richards think just saw your message now I never got the notification that you left me this notice. I'll check it out thanks very much please take care and stay safe during this pandemic hope we will pull through and be over this catastrophe in so many ways it has been bad. Thanks good luck
What a lucky Steam locomotive! Usually it's the GP7 and F7 that get totaled.
Mysterious and spooky there all together OK the Addams family.
Sorry to be that guy but it's 'ookie' not 'OK.'
@@TheDUDERulez1 Thank you. I couldn't bear to say it.
I Looove trains, and that does make me sad 😔
Same. But hey at least they only staged the wreck scene and destroyed the trains once!
You did notice that "no trains were damaged during the filming of this shot"?
8:35 - He wants to make a real train wreck. The guy he's talking to has a funny reaction.
🤨🤔🤨😑😆 ohhoh conjunction conjunction what's the missfuncion. Train-ing in explosive track,o,tack. 🧨🚂 oh da train da train.
Many trains were harmed in the makings of these films. Thankfully, no Thomas trains though.
I wanted an electric train very badly in early 70s when i was in elementary school. I saw one of these clips around then and nearly lost my mind.
did the show invented this or it came with the original stores?
Well Dark Helmet I’m not sure. There are claims it was invented for the show but there’s also a cartoon Charles Addams drew for the New Yorker depicting Pugsley controlling a Lionel train with people onboard. I’m sure somebody else will now, ask Colonel Sandurz. Alright I’ll cut the jokes.
@@richardstrainsandmore May The Schwartz Be With You.
On the original layout, I can identify the lighted AIREX billboard, the corral, the Lionel girder bridge, the rotating beacon tower (then it was replaced by a water tower in a scene), a trestle, plasticville crossing gates, and a gatemans house on the corner, and some street lamps.
Would anyone know what the rest of the layout accessories are on the 1st season (1964-1965) layout are please? Also, was the layout painted green or was Lionel grass used? I'm having quite a dilemma on what layout to attempt to build. I like both layouts in the series and it's difficult to decide on. Also, "IF" THE ADDAMS FAMILY were made TODAY, would Gomez exclusively use Lionel's & MTH "HALLOWEEN" trains for his permanent layout? Therefore, a possible 3rd option. Any help and/or advice will GREATLY be appreciated. But, I do need to know all of the 1st seasons layout accessories. I humbly thank you in advance.
The rest of the accessories are a culvert loader and unloader, operating milk car platform, Lionel dispatch board, banjo signal, newsstand, and operating forklift platform. As a side note the crossing gates are regular Lionel 252s and the water tower is a rotary beacon with a shed placed over it, probably a victim of rough handling by studio crews. As far as either of the 2 layouts I would go for the 1st season’s super O layout for the impressive elevated section and all the operating accessories. The second layout doesn’t have any switches or accessories. You could always swap out the hard to find super O track for 027 or 031 and still use the same track plan on a 5x8 board. I don’t know whether the layout was covered in grass however it appears there’s a felt covering of some sort that almost certainly would’ve been green. Likely the same green used on postwar Lionel dealer displays. There was a reboot of the Addams Family series in the 90s/2000s and Gomez used starter set Lionel 4-4-2 locomotives in a much less exiting crash scene. I have a hunch Gomez would opt for modern stuff that ran fast and could do damage!
Thank you sir! I'm hoping to build this as studio accuracy as possible!
Your very welcome! I hope you’re able to build it!
Always loved those are so cool
5:28, Is that a Wabco E2 I hear?
Certainly sounds like an E2 most of the train sound effects were stock recordings for various TV shows
Just curious what's a stock record? Is it like a vinyl record that you play on record player?
My apologies for the late reply but stock recordings were basically libraries of sound effects TV shows or movies could license to use. Usually they were issued on LP albums and likely reel to reels. A common example was Hanna Barbera and also Spongebob where many of their audio effects were grabbed from stock recordings, which is also why you hear the same sound effects repeated so often :)
Who rebuilds the wreck?
Maybe Thing? He’s quite handy
That HO Locomotive is about 10k right now
What HO locomotive? These were all O scale
Surprised those trains even still work after being blown up so many times!
After all they were Lionels and those darn things could withstand a war and still work
I remember reading somewhere that in the original script for the 1990 movie, the trains were going to be a bigger part of the movie and there were a lot more crashes planned. The problem they eventually ran into was that the Lionel trains were so tough, they couldn't really damage them. They would derail, but that was about it. In the one crash they actually did shoot for the movie, they ended up making "look alikes" of the engines they were using out of lead and other soft materials and basically catapulting them into one another so they would crush and buckle during the collision, on top of filling them with mini pyrotechnics to make them explode. I guess it ended up being more of a job than they figured on, so they only did one. Now Lionel trains are junk made in China like everything else.
When you have as much money and a spend crazy attitude of Gomez, you’re gonna have a bunch of trains on standby for when he’s in the mood to play with them again.
Anyone else notice the AMT aluminum passenger cars in some of the clips?
Good eye! It’s puzzling why they chose AMT cars (who was out of business) when Lionel’s were readily available at the time.
Why? Thicker, cheaper (?) (There were some things more correct about these I think. Maybe isolated for two rail?) Maybe out of stock.
....actually... Aren't those possibly even older and a set of Auburn's ?
Could be Auburn, I just assumed AMT because they’re the same style as my AMT Pennsylvania cars. My best guess is the production crew used what resources they had on hand even if they weren’t brand new, AMT passenger cars, 6464 Alaska Railroad boxcar, 2343 F3, Lionel cars with bar end trucks, etc.
is that mr. bean’s father?
I want to build an exact replica of the 2nd train layout that was used in the series. Would anyone have any photos of the 2nd layout available to share?
The short clips in this video are all that probably exist of that layout. It appears to be a 4x8 board using 2 loops of 031 track, one is an elongated figure 8 in the middle, the outer uses a 110 trestle set with a 321 trestle bride on top of a 332 arch bridge. In the center is a 494 Rotary Beacon, several 76 Street lamps, 310 billboards (one of which is on top of some sort of cardboard sided factory), and plasticville crossing gates. The layout surface color was likely a light green as was most Lionel layouts of the day
Thank you sir!
Also, can a MARX BLOCKER SIGNAL work with Lionel & MTH trains?
Depends on what model of Marx block signal but it should work just like any Lionel signal if it has 3 wires
My dad bought me the exact same silver stream liner depicted near the end of this video. It was a Lionel. I never blew it up, but, did crash it through little plastic bricks.
Is anyone gonna ask the whistle allmost looked like james in 0:58
0:39 3:28 No fair ! They used the same scene the 1st just being zoomed.
What railroad is that GP9 from in the B&W cartoon?
Or I'll give you an allowance, then cut it off.
That was a Lionel 2348 Minneapolis & St. Louis gp9, quite a colorful engine that sadly shows up dull grey in black and white
Ok, thanks.
Its rare that those old lionel trains flew off thanks to their magne-traction
Back then, there was no way you could collide trains on same track. Current only went one way. Nowadays you have DCC.
That’s still a problem with DC powered trains but with AC powered O scale (the scale used in the show) the locomotive’s direction is controlled by an E-unit rather than current polarity so technically you can have two trains on the same track going opposite directions, even have them collide head on!
@@richardstrainsandmore Really? Didn't know that.
Oh yeah, can be a problem if you forgot one engine Sitting in the yard when starting a train.... sigh.
There is no problem running two trains against each other on 3 rails AC layout, even loop to turn train around is not a problem. With 2 rails DC, it will short circuit. With 3 rails, positive is in middle rail, therefore no problem to have loops or run trains in different directions..
Petr Beranek So you can do that with the old Lionel trains?
All of those beautiful O gauge trains all to waste :(
What a shame...
Ayy, at least it's recycled crash footage every time.
just the one train set. lots of camera angles and takes
Clearly, Gomez doesn't agree with your sentiments.
Ikr? it even sickens me when something like this happens to my n scale layout! 😩