I still remember a time when Italy had the worst focus tree.....by the way, using hordes of communists to fight your battles for you, was very thematic!
6:00 The Manchurian Project focuses reduce Manchuria's autonomy and give a bunch of stuff so if you're going to eat them anyway, you might as well build them up a little so they're worth something to you.
ISP here setting up a West Germany like he's a German with a specific hatred for Germany being called East Francia on old maps because of the Frankish Empire.
Pretty sure if you just capitulate the other Japan without rushing Tokyo you get to keep most of the fleet and all the islands, much easier than annexing Manchuria.
fun fact, if you actually wait to take tokyo until you’ve conquered almost the rest of japan in the civil war, then the moment you take tokyo the other side will capitulate before the event fires to transfer stuff over to manchuria. makes the civil war much less devastating
HOI4 meme challenge: World Conquest but only your puppets can fight land battles. You can only use air, navy, or lend lease to support them. If you don't start with puppets, you have to release some. 😂
15:58 That wouldn't even be the first time that's happened! The Franks came from Germany, then moved west and settled in what used to be Gaul. You've just made them do it AGAIN! :D Welcome to West Francia 2.0.
As a German Veteran and now Historian for the IFZ in Munich, my first Reaction seeing your Title in the Notifications was "You can't do anything unthinkable in WW2, that was the whole Meta" Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
The "Unthinkable Option" would be more funnier, if you put the monarchists or fascists focus tree selection option in campaign setting for SU and somehow made the Provisional Government of Russia choose focus for asking help from Japan, help them win Stalin and annex Russia as well as Manchuria and only then starting a civil war!
If you take tokio as the last city then you KEEP YOUR FLEET. Thats why "Taking tokio earlie will end the war fast" is written IN RED. RED innparadox keans BAD DON'T DO IT.
14:33 *BREAKING NEWS: The Socialist Japan met no resistance at all at the beaches of France!* This is why I love Hearts of Iron IV, because of the RP-ing.
If you're both guaranteed by the same nations, they don't get involved because they can't side with both. It makes sense logically and is easy to remember.
The Japanese foucs tree is among my favorites, lol. Really only the historical path - but not actually playing historical. I dont mind this tree though. The civil war sucks. But tbh, with the navy Japan starts with the game isnt challenging. So blowing half of it up and loosing the best admirals adds a nice challge.
FYI if someone guarantees you and another country, they don't get called if you declare war on the other country. It's why countries in South America don't fight the US if they declare war on their neighbours.
The Japanese civil war has a unique mechanic where the quicker you end it (By virtue of capturing Tokyo), the worse off you become because the military and the Imperialists will decide to flee to Manchuria instead of fight in this lost cause of a civil war
when you take tokyo quickly it gives your puppet half your navy the islands and korea, if you do it slowly they dont get half your navy the islands or korea so its actually better to do ti slower
@@damienirwin9102 idk but it's marked red in the notes for the focus I think if you dont take Tokyo quickly and wait for like a month or two then you will keep korea and the navy/army
the unthinkable option is just going outside
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True 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The unthinkable is bringing back the rat 🐀
I never thought about that
Lol
Operation Unthinkable: Touch Grass
I don’t have grass!!!!!
*me who lives in a desert*
yeah, about that...
@-P3NGU1N No I just do your mom.
Noooooo
BLUE COMMENT OMG
The germans thought going around the maginot line was ambitious. Here we have ISP going around the whole country to attack it from behind.
Oh dear lord, going from Italy to Japan must be whiplash in terms of the focus
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Back in my day Italy had fewer focuses than filler nations
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Making the AI go the unthinkable option and playing as Manchukuo is actually surprisingly enjoyable
Only today did I notice that on the starting map, Japan's name appears on Korea, but not on Japan itself
It appears on Japan too, its just really stretched out since they own the Kurils so it's hard to see
and now i cant stop thinking about it, thank you
japan gametag Reafirming the colonial rule +8% division recovery by companion ladies over there lmao
I can't believe East and West Francia are back.
you actually don't want to take Tokyo quickly because Manchuria gets more if you win quicker
How? puppet countries can take lands now?
I can't believe ISP shot Hirohito in his chins behind a barn
He hired me to do it and it was hella fun
I was there but it bounced off the fat and hit my eye
'First the shins, then the chins'
I still remember a time when Italy had the worst focus tree.....by the way, using hordes of communists to fight your battles for you, was very thematic!
6:00 The Manchurian Project focuses reduce Manchuria's autonomy and give a bunch of stuff so if you're going to eat them anyway, you might as well build them up a little so they're worth something to you.
"Bonjour, and welcome to Japanese Germany"
Domo schoen beaucoup, senpai.
"What is this country?"
"Oh, this? West Germany."
*Cursing in French*
ISP here setting up a West Germany like he's a German with a specific hatred for Germany being called East Francia on old maps because of the Frankish Empire.
I think monarchy path is the worst, it forces you to fight through 0 supply in siberia and thats fate worse then your empire collapsing
Build supply🤔
@@KokenyRichard I ain't spending 6-9 months building a supply hub and railway network in siberia to push every 3-5 giant provinces
@@beniciounfiltered7861 there is a way to do it, ive done it all before.
The unthinkable option for ISP is bringing back the rat, just give it!
He thinks we have forgotten. Maybe some of us had. But certainly not all.
The best path for Manchuria in the game... and it involves you *NOT* starting as Manchuria lol.
Ah yes, the Return of West Francia and East Francia
"I like it, and i think i deserve it"
Pretty sure if you just capitulate the other Japan without rushing Tokyo you get to keep most of the fleet and all the islands, much easier than annexing Manchuria.
Germany being puppetted in France had me laughing for a bit
15:51 Japan engages in scramble for Africa levels of geographic disinterest
Love to go visit the famous German city of Paris
15:59 France is basically Taiwan in this world
fun fact, if you actually wait to take tokyo until you’ve conquered almost the rest of japan in the civil war, then the moment you take tokyo the other side will capitulate before the event fires to transfer stuff over to manchuria. makes the civil war much less devastating
11:00 I have an idea. It's crazy. So crazy it just might work!
-Masters of Disguise
We can also say that we went back after Charlemagne, where we had west francia and east Francia. Only this time is west Germany and East Germany
I'm looking forward to obedient Manchuria. Don't think I've ever seen a player take that focus
Playing as Manchuria after the Japanese civil war sounds pretty cool now that I think about it
The unthinkable option is bringing the rat back, artillery only again, quiting hoi4 again and going outside
I can't believe we had to make a mod to give Hirohito the historically accurate amount of chins.
i remember Waking the Tiger and Man the Guns coming out and boy the focus tree powercreep sure is real
FYI: "Reeducation Campaign" only gets you to at least 50% stability
WHERE.IS.THE.RAT!? #bringbacktherat #armsagainstIsorrow
WE WANT THE RAT
Where is Palden Norbu tho?
Yall need to chill
Hilarious and original
HOI4 meme challenge:
World Conquest but only your puppets can fight land battles. You can only use air, navy, or lend lease to support them. If you don't start with puppets, you have to release some. 😂
As Spain
PERFECT TIMING FOR MY FOOD
What eat?
15:58 That wouldn't even be the first time that's happened! The Franks came from Germany, then moved west and settled in what used to be Gaul. You've just made them do it AGAIN! :D Welcome to West Francia 2.0.
As a German Veteran and now Historian for the IFZ in Munich, my first Reaction seeing your Title in the Notifications was "You can't do anything unthinkable in WW2, that was the whole Meta"
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
West Germany in France, we in the business call this the "Reverse Charlemagne Manoeuvre"
That is one weird way to reform the Allies. But it not only worked, it even did Allies-things.
As a Timmy who has been here forever, I can confirm, once you start playing/watching Hoi4 you’re here forever.
*resists urge to click national focus*
The "Unthinkable Option" would be more funnier, if you put the monarchists or fascists focus tree selection option in campaign setting for SU and somehow made the Provisional Government of Russia choose focus for asking help from Japan, help them win Stalin and annex Russia as well as Manchuria and only then starting a civil war!
After “the dog ate my homework” comes “the cat walked on my keyboard” :) As Florry would say ”oh look! A bird”
Well that was a complete and utter shitshow. I love it
If you take tokio as the last city then you KEEP YOUR FLEET. Thats why "Taking tokio earlie will end the war fast" is written IN RED. RED innparadox keans BAD DON'T DO IT.
14:33 *BREAKING NEWS: The Socialist Japan met no resistance at all at the beaches of France!*
This is why I love Hearts of Iron IV, because of the RP-ing.
Bros HOI4 hours played is like 6 million. (respect)
ISP straight up recreating Lotharingia a millenium later
Okay, Japanese Germany is just fucking hilarious.
3:19 "NOT THE NAVY"
15:29 West Francia returns
I think you can get everything at the end of the civil war. Just make sure to only take Tokyo when that makes them 100% towards cap.
He didn't so much kill the allies as he did infect them like a parasite and puppet the corpse.
Japanese Germany in France…Super West Germany 😂
If you're both guaranteed by the same nations, they don't get involved because they can't side with both. It makes sense logically and is easy to remember.
I like to think Tokuda just didn’t know where germany was and just said this is close enough
The Japanese foucs tree is among my favorites, lol. Really only the historical path - but not actually playing historical.
I dont mind this tree though. The civil war sucks. But tbh, with the navy Japan starts with the game isnt challenging. So blowing half of it up and loosing the best admirals adds a nice challge.
FYI if someone guarantees you and another country, they don't get called if you declare war on the other country. It's why countries in South America don't fight the US if they declare war on their neighbours.
This is the equivalent of revoking the privelegia in EU4
What are the chances that the same day this video was released, I was playing a non historical china game in which Japan went communist
NGL that was the funniest Japanese path that I've ever seen.
The Japanese civil war has a unique mechanic where the quicker you end it (By virtue of capturing Tokyo), the worse off you become because the military and the Imperialists will decide to flee to Manchuria instead of fight in this lost cause of a civil war
Petition for ISP to play Syndicalist Italy/Roman Empire in Kaiserredux Day 69
NOICE!
lol funny number the only problem is now you have to stop asking
I could… but I’m good.
@@TheRavenLord1 That's against the rules everyone knows you have to stop at funny number.
Screw the rules, I got money
when you take tokyo quickly it gives your puppet half your navy the islands and korea, if you do it slowly they dont get half your navy the islands or korea so its actually better to do ti slower
I actually forgot that path exists truly the unthinkable option of all time
That map actually looks really nice
I watch these videos more because I enjoy ISP's personality
Although i do enjoy the Hoi4 too, it's about 70/30 (maybe 60/40)
I’m glad you’re here ISP
With the lend lease, you have to send them the convoys first and then the rest of the lend lease
The unthinkable option is nOT SHOWING US THE RAT!!! DO ITTTTTTTTTTT
I don’t know what’s worse, being split in half or being sent to France
Japanese Germany... In France.
Sure, why not.
the ideal map of the world
What makes Italy's faction cursed is that it isn't Italy's, it's Turkey's
Japan is just the new Old Italian focus tree
doing the civil war without capturing Tokyo and capping the japanese that way doesn't give Manchuria the rest of the empire
Italy stands alone against the tide of communism
ISorroproduction I was wondering if you can do a Wisconsin hoi4 conquer I hope you see this👏
Dude. You need to try the eight years of resistance mod. The japan tree there is much more interesting. Although the unthinkable is still unthinkable.
Dude, you practically created the setting of 1984.
all i get from this video is to never ever go communist japan.
Not Super West Germany,
“West-West Germany” 😂
just put my fries in my bag bro
the japanese germany had me laughign so hard
Supremely cursed - 10/10
Yes, I do like hearts of iron four how did you know ISP?
Aww, I thought when the mad-map-man said forever I just gained immortality and could play Hoi4 forever. Dang it.
Do you need help, blink twice if you need breaking out of Paradox's basement
Can't wait to see him nathionalizing zabiitsu or Zanzibar or chintze or or uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh well yeah!
Dear diary: Today the funny map man made it to the end of the dictionary and found the word "unhinged"
The unthinkable option is playing democratic Mengkukuo
Super West Germany has a certain ring to it 😂
Btw
Capturing Tokyo to end the war quickly is marked red cz that's the bad outcome
How so?
@@damienirwin9102 idk but it's marked red in the notes for the focus
I think if you dont take Tokyo quickly and wait for like a month or two then you will keep korea and the navy/army
I’ve never seen unthinkable option Japan go well if you want a “normal game” it seems to mess with all the AI
Forever isn't forever, it's just as long as it is.
I am suffering from rat abstinence
???
“We should take Germany and push it somewhere else”
TIMOTHY, WAKE UP! ISP POSTED!
Alf Landon demands the rat!!!
And here I thought you finally found sanity and uninstalled
5:40 how the f did they get zhang guotao be back in charge, he should be in Canada now