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The Brilliant Tri-ang XT 60 Motor, Fitted To 'OO' and 'TT' Models. A Look At The 'Lord Of The Isles'
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
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This time, I have a couple of later Tri-ang Hornby R.354 'Lord Of the Isles' locos to examine. I take a look at the superb XT 60 motor that powers these excellent models and we also have a look through the 1961 Tri-ang Catalogue. To end there is a little running on the Super 4 Railway. Thanks for looking
Very enjoyable video, thank you, I don’t think I have ever seen Lord of Isles in the flesh so it was interesting to see yours.
They are a lovely loco. Take care, best regards to you
Thoroughly enjoyed looking at the catalogue... thank you 🙏🇳🇿
The catalogues are a great way to enjoy these items just by flicking through. All the best to you
Super video, many thanks.
I'm glad you liked it, thanks for looking. All the best to you
They both looks good 👍🏻
Thanks for looking at the video. All the best to you
Thank you for the enjoyable video! I've been collecting the Nellie type over the past few years, having fond memories of running the original Nellie as a child. I've managed to find a few examples of the black versions (R359), the oldest having the gold crest, as in your brochure, later ones having a BR transfer. There were some produced without any printing, or buffer beam red, or whistle - must have saved Triang many pence! They are difficult to find in good condition, most having been enjoyed by children at the time.
Love the Lord of the Isles models 👍🏻
That's interesting about the Black Industrial loco. I'll keep an eye out. Take care, all the best to you
Great episode, interesting detail regarding the motors.
Don’t fall off the roof 😉
safety first
I'm taking care up top, thanks for looking, all the best to you
Very enjoyable. The 'Lord Of The Isles' is so lavishly decorated. The excellent cab detail is just crying out to be finessed. Tri-ang went all out with it and the recent Hornby releases of the same body shell are barely any more interesting if at all (apart from the extra pickups). It's always transporting to look through a catalogue so thank you for that, and nice to see the Ivatt again too. 😊
Thanks for taking the time to watch this. It's appreciated. Best regards to you
My one’s magnet end bearing had got about 2mm of play in it. Sounded like a bag of gravel. The other end bearing was very very loose and I couldn’t fit the original bearing. I tried to fit the ball race bearings but put too much force on the outside and now they run rough. They are the same ones that you used in the X337 bogie where one ran rough. It is because the outer shaft got pushed as well.
I’ll try again one day, but I need to drill out the old ball bearing on the worm end. It’s stuck in and stopping me fitting a new bearing.
Yours run beautifully and as they were built to! Beautiful condition. They have such charm.
Glad to see the Railway in action again. Would hate to see the end of it! But one step backwards 10 forwards when building layouts. Can only learn.
Kindest regards to you
Will
I'm sorry to hear about your issues with the ball bearings. It is easy to damage them, I'm afraid I've caught one or two and ruined them. Thanks for looking, all the best to you
A lovely model indeed Mr. Snooze. I bought mine at the TTS in Leicester in 2019 and must confess that I have only test run it once and have yet to remove the body shell. I can only assume that there is an XT 60 motor in there but I have yet to handle one. So much to do. Take care working on those sky-lights.
Regards, David.
Thanks for looking David, I hope to catch up on your videos soon. Best regards to you
@@MrSnooze There isn't much to catch up on I'm afraid. I have been too busy to make videos. David.
Lord of the Isles model has certainly been well used over the years as you say only a couple of years ago for the last release. I picked up one a few years ago at a train fair, I spotted it sat loose in a plastic bag for just £20 so had to pick it up. It has been modified a bit with chain link couplings and all the plastic wheel replace with finer metal ones as well as a slightly closer tender connection. Still works quite well but I have added more pickups to the tender and put a Kadee coupling on to connect with my rolling stock that’s all been converted. I have also picked out a lot more painted detail so it looks quite smart.
It sounds like you have done a nice job on your item. Maybe extra tender pickups would be a good way to go. Best regards to you
Great video, I have 4 “Lord of the Isles “ locomotives. 3 from the 60’s and a modern version. Whilst the newest one has an excellent paint job, the old ones out perform it with speed and pulling ability. Looking forward to the video on replacing the smoke pipe.
Perhaps the newest one has a different modern motor. All the best to you
Great video very enjoyable to watch cheers Patrick Quinn IRL
Thanks for looking Patrick, all the best to you
They really are a great addition to any collection.
Mine is from 1971 I think.
The XT.60 motor is very compact as you say, but getting replacement brushes for them is becoming difficult.
You have to love the old early Tri-ang motors as they generally just keep on going.
Happy Chugging
I can't say I've seen any replacement brushes for this motor. Take care, best regards to you
@@MrSnooze you can use the longer X.04 brush as I found out by trial and error on Caledonian Single.
You'd have to trim the length down before the body would fit though.
Hope this helps. 👍
Great video Mr snooze, cracking little engine and amazing what it can pull with the magnahesion. And hopefully the rain stays off for your roof maintenance all the best, Bob.
Still at work on the roof, actually too hot in the direct sun. Take care, best regards to you
Lovely to see both versions of the Lord of the Isles MrSnooze. Very impressive smooth runner - think the gloss version is the better one but as you say it’s down to personal preference!
Thanks for looking, I think the gloss does look good. Best regards to you
I dug out my copy of the Seventh edition catalogue to see how it was printed and it looks like a variation of lithographic process printing using solid colours or percentage tints of solid colours overlapping each other and printed on top of halftone images of the actual product. I had a price list with the catalogue which was dated 1st January 1961 but it only listed the smoke version of the Lord of the Isles plus the tender listed separately but both had a '*' in the price column.
It sounds like you know about this colouring method. I think it looks good. Thanks for looking, all the best to you
Snooze.
No falling asleep on the roof.
Cannot remember ever seeing a bogie pickup on a classic period Triang/hornby steamer??????? I believe the Budd car was investigated for trailing bogie pickup.
For many of us classical Triang/TH represented an unkept promise, though in my operating environment assessment is more complicated. You have worked wonders. I wonder how your system would go without the plating? Another problem was lack of traction on non-maghes models. On a gradient the loading was not much. A situation I am still looking into is the red and silver diesel/Alco road switcher. Both had the same pressed steel frame mounting the same power truck and trailer, and both skidded under reasonable load. The Blue and Gold R159 VR B class had the same bogies but plastic chassis which doubled as the shell. It easily outpulled the metal one. Adding weight did nothing for the metal framed models; can't remember clearly on the 159, but think it did improve things. Expectation would be that the gain on traction would out-benefit the drag on the trailer which would be mollified by the rolling bearings. It is not as if we were cold turkey dragging the thing. The dock shunter with the same power bogie (to use a Biblical idiom borrowed by Iain Rice in a not dissimilar context) 'is a wolf in sheep's clothing'. HIs context was an 0-4-0 which would outpull ANYTHING on the layout. Maghes was a great innovation.
There was at least one other motor released by Rovex: a 2/3 or thereabouts miniature X-04 lookalike. I knew it as a slot car motor. The X0-4 was also used on many slotcars. I don't know if it is true, but I heard STC mentioned in relation to the astounding quality of components. Interesting. Guy Williams used X0-4 motors for Pendon.
Take a break mate; you've enough problems falling off roofs without keeping up with us. Guess where an awful lot of the Spinal Unit patients in hospitals 'come' from.
Best to you and Mrs. Snooze.
Thanks for watching again Pete, It's good to read your comment. All the best to you
Lovely video, I do love the Loti, got one of the glossy ones, oddly the little R455 I recently got gifted me I'm sure has a Loti dome! Did you catch the video?
Hello Mike, I have indeed enjoyed your recent Tri-ang Hornby action. Take care, all the best to you
@@MrSnooze Fantastic thanks
I think the XT60 motor was also used in the early turntable?
It's certainly in the Super 4 turntable. Best regards to you
If you look at the front of that Hornby catalogue the train is crossing Westminster Bridge which is not a rail crossing! Artistic licence or just bad checking?
Good spot !
That's interesting, I think they were just having fun making a nice picture. Best regards to you
When you come out of Waterloo the railway runs parallel with Westminster on south side of river. The view was not restricted in the sixty's as it is now. It was just as the per the catalogue picture.
@@ronaldgoddard9644 I am well aware of the exit from Waterloo but it is impossible to achieve that picture even if the area was completely flattened.