Now THAT is a review. No nonsense. No propaganda/advertising.Thanks you, sir. Just ordered one and looking forward to meeting it, on Friday! Thought I'd check some reviews. Thank you for this. Can't believe some of the previous reviews I have watched on this instrument, on youtube. This is what I was looking for.
Hi Dwayne. Thank you so much for those very kind and supportive comments; I do really appreciate them. Thank you also for subscribing. Stay safe. Best wishes. Nigel
The addition of the degrees on the rotating bezel does make this an improvement over a, say, Cammenga lensatic. Also, the bezel is free moving rather than clicked, and the degree scale is accurate to the degree, rather than to 5 degrees, all of which are pretty big improvements. The clinometer is a tiny bit useless for hiking and orienteering (maybe only useful to measure the height of things). But the one thing that's missing from most compasses is the see through capsule with reference parallel lines, like you can see on all baseplate compasses, which make them ideal for map work.
www.amazon.ca/Proster-Professional-Waterproof-Clinometer-Activities/dp/B07D49VCDQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1542502968&sr=8-1&keywords=army%2Bcompass%2Bclinometer&th=1 Not a bad price in Canada either Nigel
The thing that makes those great compasses is how easy they are to use with the lens eye piece. I had to go into the deep dark mountains around my states that is the one I would take over all the others I have and I have many. They are a good value and low price for a great compass.
Yes it must be a copy but it works as well as the others I have and I have some good ones. Thank you for watching and commenting. Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
Hello Nigel, I keep looking at them myself , I have an old U.S one dated from the sixties I still use . For a tenner a tenner online this new one is worth a try. Atb Nigel have a good week . Cheers , Darren.
Hi Dumitru. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I have just examined my compass once again and yes the black section is not much use as it is very difficult to read. You seem to have obtained a compass which is not as well made as mine. The problems you describe are not present in my compass. Perhaps your compass was made by another manufacturer. May I suggest that if your compass fails when it is new that you get rid of it and buy one that will last in the field. I have also made a number of map reading/navigation videos for beginners that are avaialable on my channel. I hope this is of use. stay safe. best wishes. Nigel
Hi Nigel great review it looks great thanks for sharing, I have a similar collection of various compasses too one is none and all that 😉 Take care mate Roo
Thanks for the review, it's very useful. Do you know the purpose of the "reading lens or prism" located above the aiming line and how you would use it? Thanks
Hi Mike. I am really sorry I can't help you with that one. Until you asked I had not noticed it at all. I have had a play with the compass and can only surmise it is for examining very small detail on a map. I wish I could help more. ATB. Nigel
Hi. Just found your videos. Informative & clear. I have one of these exact compasses, the instruction manual that comes with it is vague to say the least. i am confused as to what the markings are from left to right on the sighting glass & as I mentioned already, the instruction manual is useless. Do you or anyone else have any idea how these markings are used?
Hi Wayne. Thank you for watching and commenting. You are dead right the manual is useless. I am not certain what the markings are for but as this is a copy of a military compass it may be for judging aim off for 'windage' or estimating the size of objects and spaces at a distance. I slang the instructions ages ago so I can't refer to them anymore. I'm sorry I can not be of more help. Stay safe in these troubled times. ATB Nigel
@@pnyarrow Likewise, I used the instruction manual for tinder long ago (It was more use as a firelighter) There is absolutely nothing on the web that explains these markings other than the PF of the manual (Useless) Thank you for your reply Stay safe.
Sir. Just saw ur video. By the way, very well done! I'm interested in how to identify the magnetic variation that I'm told is in all compares? Is there a field test that can be performed?
Hi Sorry for the late reply. The only test I know is to maesre some angle/take bearings on a map with a protractor then take them on the ground with the compass. When you average out all the differences they ought show you the difference between the map angle and the magnetic angle which is called Grid Magentic Angle but is often wrongly called 'magnetic variation' Hope this helps Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
This is a copy of a much more expensive compass. It resembles a Francis Barker (UK) except maybe the inclinometer. For someone who wants to experiment a cheapo makes sense. They all point to magnetic north. It isn't like the cheapest are pointing the wrong way. You can check it against the North Star. The good ones are built better, but some are up to $500£. Your review was interesting, thanks from the US.
How you use the spider lines, for measuring angles or distances? I find for, but I don't find any information about these lines. I have the same compass model/issue. The graduation are single, ten lines at right and left of a major cross line with two little triangles for alignment. But what is the value for each step? are they on mils, or degrees?
Hi there. If you mean the bezel (the ring with the degree markings on) mine does turn but it is quite stiff perhaps it needs some lubrication althogh I do not not know how to do this. Sorry I can't be of more help. Thanks for watching. ATB. Nigel
Go Online to e-bay and look up "Pocket Professional Military Army Metal Sighting Compass Clinometer Camping UK" at present it costs somewhere bteween £12 and £19. Hope this helps. ATB. Nigel
Hi, First, I want to let you know that I am learning about land navigation (almost 0 knowledge). But, in my opinion it is a waste of money. At least mine. First, when I open it and I put it on a flat surface, is wobbling. At the back, the informations are written black on black wich make the reading almost impossible. The clinometer is also wobbling. I tighten the screws but the other part can't be because they install it without using screws. The aluminium bezel can be pulled out easily and the fluorescent disk fell off. The metric ruler from the side is 2mm short on the entire marked length. The markings on the disk are accurate on the left side but 2mm short on the right side. I didn't check the clinometer. Overall, heavy aluminium alloy case, maybe aluminium bezel and the rest is plastic
Hi Sorry about the late reply. I think the best thing to be done is either send it back for a refund or throw it in the bin. If you can't trust your compass then it is of no use. stay safe. ATB. Nigel
What is wrong with GPS and Google maps? Anyway, just kidding, silva make good compasses, I still have my one from my uni days. For the general public a compass is pretty worthless I would have thought, in the event of some major crisis what is one going to do with it?
Hi Roasthunter. I still use my 'old' silva and recta compasses but I am not 100% happy with them althoughh they are suitable for most things I do. Even if many people do not know how to use a compass that does not mean we have to leave them in ignorance - please see my early 'Prepper Survival Mapreading' series of 3 videos and my later' Prepper Survival Grid References Made Easy' video. At the very leat a compass may stop you going in the wrong direction in a strange ar stressful area.
These China clones are cheap copies of a great german precision compass, the WilKie Meridian from the 1930ies. Is was one of the first compasses with a thermoelastic capsule to prevent bubbles. It was manufactured with small changes until a few years by Kasper & Richter an now as a cheap copy with an lens system instead the real prismatic system. Price of the original k&f was around 120€. And yes, you're right, even the copy is good.
@@pnyarrow thanks for reply😊 but cammenga live for 12 years, waterproof, high shocks resistance and the most important it is not liquid fill which make it the most accurate. Sometimes we have get trusted gear that will outlast in a danger situation specially when this gear is classified as an essintial gear. Thanks to you for all those videos👍🌹
@@user-nf1hc9ev2x.مرحبا محمد. أنت محق تمامًا يحتاج المرء إلى معدات يمكن الاعتماد عليها وطويلة الأمد. الجودة دائمًا جيدة - الشراء بسعر رخيص يعني الشراء مرتين (أو حتى في كثير من الأحيان)
These are not accurate, I believe I got pretty much the same one. Made in china, basically a ripoff of a Cammenga. If you use this outdoors and you are navigating over long distances more than say 10km the deviation will be huge.
Hi There. Thank you for watching, commenting and that information. I will certainly have a further examination of this compass althogh I beleive it is a copy of the Italian Army Compass (though I am not certain). Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
This is made of cheap weak and brittle zinc instead of aluminum. The compass itself is cheaply made, inaccurate and certainly not dependable. This is also certainly not a Uk military compass. It’s a cheap Chinese knockoff of a camenga.
Hi Miguel. Thank you for watching and commenting. A good quality compass can not be beaten and you do get what you pay for - if you are lucky. So far I have found this compass to be reliable however i do use a more expensive board compass as a check when navigation is important. Thank you for subscribing and stay safe in these troubled times. ATB. Nigel
@@pnyarrow yes sir,i have that one too thats why i know what capability that thing have aside from being heavy the bezel ring has no sounding click like the cammenga...thats why i have difficulty shooting azimuth..
@@miguelsantillan954 Hi Miguel. I see where you are coming from. One really needs a protractor to use this compass properly. I like the U.S. military and U.K. military 'artillery' compasses too. Have a good day.
Now THAT is a review. No nonsense. No propaganda/advertising.Thanks you, sir. Just ordered one and looking forward to meeting it, on Friday! Thought I'd check some reviews. Thank you for this. Can't believe some of the previous reviews I have watched on this instrument, on youtube. This is what I was looking for.
Hi Dwayne. Thank you so much for those very kind and supportive comments; I do really appreciate them. Thank you also for subscribing. Stay safe. Best wishes. Nigel
The addition of the degrees on the rotating bezel does make this an improvement over a, say, Cammenga lensatic. Also, the bezel is free moving rather than clicked, and the degree scale is accurate to the degree, rather than to 5 degrees, all of which are pretty big improvements. The clinometer is a tiny bit useless for hiking and orienteering (maybe only useful to measure the height of things). But the one thing that's missing from most compasses is the see through capsule with reference parallel lines, like you can see on all baseplate compasses, which make them ideal for map work.
Hi Thank you for watching and commenting. Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
By two minutes I was "I have to have this!!!!"
Love the snow! The back baring feature is so great
www.amazon.ca/Proster-Professional-Waterproof-Clinometer-Activities/dp/B07D49VCDQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1542502968&sr=8-1&keywords=army%2Bcompass%2Bclinometer&th=1
Not a bad price in Canada either Nigel
Thansk forwatching and the comment. It is a good compass but rather heavy. Hope you enjoy it when you get one! Best wishes. Nigel.
#LIKE19. Excellent high quality compass unlike the cheap button compass, good to have in kit! Have a wonderful day.
Thank you so much for wataching and commenting. Stay safe ATB. Nigel
I actually just recently ordered this compass off amazon. I love it already, it's so thorough
Hi Duraeus. Thank you for watching and commenting. I'm glad you like it and hope you will have many years use out of it. Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
The thing that makes those great compasses is how easy they are to use with the lens eye piece. I had to go into the deep dark mountains around my states that is the one I would take over all the others I have and I have many. They are a good value and low price for a great compass.
Hi there. Thank you for watching and commenting. Stay safe in theose mountains (and everywhere else) ATB. Nigel
I got that compass it's pretty nice and relatively very inexpensive compared to other models out there.
Hi Jhon. Thank you for watching and commenting. I too have found the compass good value and accurate. Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
It’s heavy because it’s made of cheap zinc, instead of aluminum which is both much lighter yet much stronger, tougher than zinc.
Yes it must be a copy but it works as well as the others I have and I have some good ones. Thank you for watching and commenting. Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
Great vid and info. Thanks for sharing
Thank you so much for wataching and commenting. Stay safe ATB. Nigel
Hello Nigel, I keep looking at them myself , I have an old U.S one dated from the sixties I still use . For a tenner a tenner online this new one is worth a try. Atb Nigel have a good week . Cheers , Darren.
Hi Darren. Thank you for watching and commenting. It is a good compass however I am still looking for my ideal one. Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
Can't go wrong for a tenner, looks great, all the best mate 👍
Skye
Hi Skye. Thanks for watching and commenting. For a tenner it is great value. Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
I got mine a couple of months ago. I absolutely love it. I also have a Silva Ranger and a Garmin GPS.
Hi Brad. Glad you like it. Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
Hi Dumitru. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I have just examined my compass once again and yes the black section is not much use as it is very difficult to read. You seem to have obtained a compass which is not as well made as mine. The problems you describe are not present in my compass. Perhaps your compass was made by another manufacturer. May I suggest that if your compass fails when it is new that you get rid of it and buy one that will last in the field. I have also made a number of map reading/navigation videos for beginners that are avaialable on my channel. I hope this is of use. stay safe. best wishes. Nigel
Great info Nigel
Thank you so much for the kind words. ATB. Nigel
Hi Nigel great review it looks great thanks for sharing, I have a similar collection of various compasses too one is none and all that 😉
Take care mate
Roo
Hi Roo. Sorry I did not reply sooner I don't know how I missed your comment. It is still working 4 years on. Stay safe ATB. Nigel
@@pnyarrow no problem Nigel hope you're well buddy, all the best
@@PreparedCamping ATB to you too!
Nice my friend
Bushcraft Prepper
Hi Zahra. Thank you for your kind words. Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
A very good review and for ten pounds a very good price too thanks and atb..
Hi there. Thank you for the kind and supportive comments. Always good to hear from you. Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
Thanks for the review, it's very useful. Do you know the purpose of the "reading lens or prism" located above the aiming line and how you would use it? Thanks
Hi Mike. I am really sorry I can't help you with that one. Until you asked I had not noticed it at all. I have had a play with the compass and can only surmise it is for examining very small detail on a map. I wish I could help more. ATB. Nigel
@@pnyarrow Thanks for replying. I guess until the manufacturer supplies better instructions we'll never know for sure!
@@mikecobb537 Roger that.
Hi. Just found your videos. Informative & clear. I have one of these exact compasses, the instruction manual that comes with it is vague to say the least. i am confused as to what the markings are from left to right on the sighting glass & as I mentioned already, the instruction manual is useless. Do you or anyone else have any idea how these markings are used?
Hi Wayne. Thank you for watching and commenting. You are dead right the manual is useless. I am not certain what the markings are for but as this is a copy of a military compass it may be for judging aim off for 'windage' or estimating the size of objects and spaces at a distance. I slang the instructions ages ago so I can't refer to them anymore. I'm sorry I can not be of more help. Stay safe in these troubled times. ATB Nigel
@@pnyarrow Likewise, I used the instruction manual for tinder long ago (It was more use as a firelighter) There is absolutely nothing on the web that explains these markings other than the PF of the manual (Useless)
Thank you for your reply
Stay safe.
Sir. Just saw ur video. By the way, very well done! I'm interested in how to identify the magnetic variation that I'm told is in all compares? Is there a field test that can be performed?
Hi Sorry for the late reply. The only test I know is to maesre some angle/take bearings on a map with a protractor then take them on the ground with the compass. When you average out all the differences they ought show you the difference between the map angle and the magnetic angle which is called Grid Magentic Angle but is often wrongly called 'magnetic variation' Hope this helps Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
This is a copy of a much more expensive compass. It resembles a Francis Barker (UK) except maybe the inclinometer. For someone who wants to experiment a cheapo makes sense. They all point to magnetic north. It isn't like the cheapest are pointing the wrong way. You can check it against the North Star. The good ones are built better, but some are up to $500£.
Your review was interesting, thanks from the US.
Hi Steve. Thank you for watcing and your detailed comments - they are much appreciated. Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
How you use the spider lines, for measuring angles or distances? I find for, but I don't find any information about these lines. I have the same compass model/issue. The graduation are single, ten lines at right and left of a major cross line with two little triangles for alignment. But what is the value for each step? are they on mils, or degrees?
Hi. Sorry Ihave not looked at this aspect. Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
Not the needle compass, but the bearing adjuster does not rotate. Is this a flaw or what am I doing wrong? Thank you.
Hi there. If you mean the bezel (the ring with the degree markings on) mine does turn but it is quite stiff perhaps it needs some lubrication althogh I do not not know how to do this. Sorry I can't be of more help. Thanks for watching. ATB. Nigel
hi thanks for the video, do yoy have any details on the name of tge compass and where i can get it from please?
Go Online to e-bay and look up "Pocket Professional Military Army Metal Sighting Compass Clinometer Camping UK" at present it costs somewhere bteween £12 and £19. Hope this helps. ATB. Nigel
Hi,
First, I want to let you know that I am learning about land navigation (almost 0 knowledge). But, in my opinion it is a waste of money. At least mine. First, when I open it and I put it on a flat surface, is wobbling. At the back, the informations are written black on black wich make the reading almost impossible. The clinometer is also wobbling. I tighten the screws but the other part can't be because they install it without using screws. The aluminium bezel can be pulled out easily and the fluorescent disk fell off. The metric ruler from the side is 2mm short on the entire marked length. The markings on the disk are accurate on the left side but 2mm short on the right side. I didn't check the clinometer. Overall, heavy aluminium alloy case, maybe aluminium bezel and the rest is plastic
Hi Sorry about the late reply. I think the best thing to be done is either send it back for a refund or throw it in the bin. If you can't trust your compass then it is of no use. stay safe. ATB. Nigel
What is wrong with GPS and Google maps? Anyway, just kidding, silva make good compasses, I still have my one from my uni days. For the general public a compass is pretty worthless I would have thought, in the event of some major crisis what is one going to do with it?
Hi Roasthunter. I still use my 'old' silva and recta compasses but I am not 100% happy with them althoughh they are suitable for most things I do. Even if many people do not know how to use a compass that does not mean we have to leave them in ignorance - please see my early 'Prepper Survival Mapreading' series of 3 videos and my later' Prepper Survival Grid References Made Easy' video. At the very leat a compass may stop you going in the wrong direction in a strange ar stressful area.
nice compass but the accuracy doesn't come close to the Suunto MC2 .... Try it you won't be dissapointed
Hi 'Pithon' Thank you for that. Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
Is the compass accurate? 🤔
I have found it to be so far. Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
@@pnyarrow 👍🖖
Quite accurate for a $19.00 compass.
These China clones are cheap copies of a great german precision compass, the WilKie Meridian from the 1930ies. Is was one of the first compasses with a thermoelastic capsule to prevent bubbles. It was manufactured with small changes until a few years by Kasper & Richter an now as a cheap copy with an lens system instead the real prismatic system. Price of the original k&f was around 120€. And yes, you're right, even the copy is good.
Thank you for watching and commenting. Thank you also for all the information. Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
Oi Bom dia
Grazi
Cammenga is the best compass
Thank you for watching and commenting but very expensive by comparison. Stay safe in these troubled times.
@@pnyarrow thanks for reply😊 but cammenga live for 12 years, waterproof, high shocks resistance and the most important it is not liquid fill which make it the most accurate.
Sometimes we have get trusted gear that will outlast in a danger situation specially when this gear is classified as an essintial gear.
Thanks to you for all those videos👍🌹
@@user-nf1hc9ev2x.مرحبا محمد. أنت محق تمامًا يحتاج المرء إلى معدات يمكن الاعتماد عليها وطويلة الأمد. الجودة دائمًا جيدة - الشراء بسعر رخيص يعني الشراء مرتين (أو حتى في كثير من الأحيان)
These are not accurate, I believe I got pretty much the same one. Made in china, basically a ripoff of a Cammenga. If you use this outdoors and you are navigating over long distances more than say 10km the deviation will be huge.
Hi There. Thank you for watching, commenting and that information. I will certainly have a further examination of this compass althogh I beleive it is a copy of the Italian Army Compass (though I am not certain). Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
This is made of cheap weak and brittle zinc instead of aluminum. The compass itself is cheaply made, inaccurate and certainly not dependable. This is also certainly not a Uk military compass. It’s a cheap Chinese knockoff of a camenga.
I'd rather stay with suunto..this china made compass is unrealiable
Hi Miguel. Thank you for watching and commenting. A good quality compass can not be beaten and you do get what you pay for - if you are lucky. So far I have found this compass to be reliable however i do use a more expensive board compass as a check when navigation is important. Thank you for subscribing and stay safe in these troubled times. ATB. Nigel
@@pnyarrow yes sir,i have that one too thats why i know what capability that thing have aside from being heavy the bezel ring has no sounding click like the cammenga...thats why i have difficulty shooting azimuth..
@@miguelsantillan954 Hi Miguel. I see where you are coming from. One really needs a protractor to use this compass properly. I like the U.S. military and U.K. military 'artillery' compasses too. Have a good day.