Kurdish Dialects | Can they Understand Each Other?
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2022
- Kurdish is primarily categorized into three main groups, each containing several different regional accents and subdialects, and the degree of mutual intelligibility varies among them. In this video, we will take a look at three of them, with Züleyha representing Kurmanji (کورمانجی / Kurmancî) from Mardin, Turkey (ماردین / Mêrdîn), Daphne representing Sorani (سۆرانی) from Sulaymaniyah, Iraq (سلێمانی / Silêmanî), and Roozbeh representing another variety of Sorani from Sanandaj, Iran (سنە / Sine).
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Kurdish is classified as a Western Iranian language within the Indo-Iranian branch of the Indo-European language family. The Kurdish language is mainly divided into three groups and each one has its own subdialects. Northern Kurdish (Kurmanji) is the largest, spoken in Turkey, Syria, northern Iraq, and northwest and northeast Iran. Central Kurdish (Sorani) is primarily spoken in Iraqi Kurdistan and the Iranian Kurdistan Province. Southern Kurdish (Pehlewani) is for the most part spoken in Kermanshah and Ilam provinces of Iran and in the Khanaqin district of eastern Iraq.
Literary Kurdish works have been written extensively in Kurmanji and Sorani, as well Pehlewani, Zaza, and Gorani (Hawrami), with many famous poets, such as Mela Huseynê Bateyî, Malaye Jaziri (Nîşanî), Faqi Tayran (Feqiyê Teyran), Ahmad Khani (Ehmedê Xanî), and Mahmud Bayazidi who wrote in the Kurmancî dialect; Nalî (نالی), Haji Qadir Koyi (Hacî Qadirî Koyî), Sheikh Riza Talabani (شێخ ڕەزای تاڵەبانی), Mahwi (مەحوی) who wrote in the Sorani dialect.
Happy Nowruz!! Nowruz (Newroz) is very important for the Kurds, just as it is for many other groups! So I hope you enjoy this video on this special day if you speak Kurdish.
For those who are interested to know a bit more about Nowruz, we made a very short video about it 4 years ago, be sure to check it out: ua-cam.com/video/CgOccOzR5bY/v-deo.html
For non-Kurdish speakers, depending on the language you speak, there is a chance that you can figure out a lot of what is being said here. As a native Persian speakers, I was able to understand a fair bit of it! It's a very educational video. Hope you all enjoy it!
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Happy Nowruz 💖. Our Bangla 🇧🇩 new year which is on 14th April is known as Nowruz of the East ❤💖
Almost like different languages at times
@@monarchyofjackalliancesind3937 wow really interesting
And happy Nowruz
@Prwsha Ismail شێرە کچ
I am Amazigh Riffian, I love Kurdish people. They have worked for us here in Rif (Northern Morocco) They were from Syria. they have digged the well for my family and they were so happy when they found water. They were more happier than us. Once, they were eating with us and laughing, when I asked what is funny they said: your traditional bread equals 10 of our breads lol. they were so funny and kind people. Salute to all Kurdish people and all people in general..
Thanks bro.❤
As a Kurd, I learned Spanish in just 4 months, every day 50 minutes for us is Spanish easy 💚☀️❤️🤝🇪🇸
How did you do it
You must teach me
I want to learn France 🇫🇷 so badly
I agree, Spanish is close.
i thought it was only easy for me....!!
i also learned spanish in like 6 months! i’m a native sorani kurdish speaker but i also speak kurmanji
Lol it kinda looks easy to me too especially the pronunciation I'm looking forward to learn itt! How did you learn
I used to study Spanish in 2018 it was hard for me
Love to our Kurdish brothers and sisters, from Armenia 🇦🇲. My mom is actually also from Mardin😍
@@tekhayat5995 yok, annem Mardinli Suryani ve babam Sirnak Ermeni
you know? kurds killed 500000 armani.
@@gokalpx1386 Just go away, watch your Turkish stuff and let the people in peace
@@gokalpx1386 you can be sure that those who do this know that there are actually more Turks
@@gokalpx1386 Boş yapma tirko
I am sorry but Züleyha had a few problems at Kurmanji. As a half Kurmanji I saw several obvious sentences which are so similar but she didn't even noticed. Like be dilî xot, xoshi to xoshi mine. Which is almost the same with Kurmanji bi dile xwe, xweshi te xweshi mine. I am only half Dimli-Zaza and not very fluent there but even in Dimli it is something like bi dile xo, weshi to weshi mi o. It was a very basic sentence. She also didn't noticed some obvious things. When Daphne used zor jiwan for beautiful Züleyha should actually know that it also exists in Kurmanji but Ciwan can mean both beautiful and young.
You just said what I wanted to say
Tu rast dibêjî bra
In Zaza language we use the word "pe zer" not "bi dile".
Facts
We have to live more together with all kurds to understand more easyly each other
I am from Afghanistan and I speak both Pashto and Dari and with a bit of explanation from the participants, I had “ah ha” moments and many of the words made sense. Some are essentially the same words we use with phonological variations. I am sure I can learn any of these Kurdish dialects within 6 months.
i have a friend pashto he learned kurdish sorani whitin 3 months
@L Olsson cap
We have languages in same family
Pakhtun here 💪🏻 Kandahar up top !
If you speak dari you speak Kurdish very very close to each other, they almost same
Love from Northern African to all kurdish people
🇩🇯🇩🇿🇪🇷🇪🇭🇬🇮🇮🇨🇰🇲🇲🇦🇱🇾🇲🇷🇲🇹🇲🇺🇸🇨🇸🇩🇸🇸🇸🇴🇹🇩🇹🇳🇾🇹❤☀️
Are you Amazigh?
@@worldly8888 yes
@@ahmeddark7680 Bro I love amazigh people one of my best friends is Amazigh from marocco ❤
@@yourbodyis75waterandimthir44 I am also moroccan
mutual love bro
you are welcome in our land
It’s such a shame that we as Kurds have been so estranged and separated that it’s difficult to understand each other! Hopefully one day we can close the gap ❤️
Our education system is trash so we have to learn it ourselves
Bitch Kurds were never even a collective ethnicity.
@@a7a416 in south Kurdistan they tech as Arabic but not kurmanchi 🤦🏻♂️ but I can still understand Kurmanchi
@@Shervan96 all we fought was to end arabs and arabic language now they still teach us
@@a7a416 as a kurd, the main problem with the education system in Iraqi kurdistan is, they don't teach us about the certain words that only kurmanjs are using like the word (Gole) of 10:50 or avjenyie. Instead they go right away to teach us about the Messed up kurmanji poems that we don't know what they mean or the grammer. I wish that when we were in like class 3 or 4 the whole kurdish book would have been about the learning of kurdish dialects for example southern kurdish like (lak) , Middle kurdish, kurmanji, and Goran dialects like zaza and Hawrami. I was just talking to a zaza kurd and because they were away from the Hawramis(their other Gorani speaking Dialect) and instead with the kurmanjs he said that they are not kurds but rather brothers of kurds. I don't care if he thinks that we were their brothers or step brothers but I do know that it's a big problem. And not all of the Zaza kurds around Dersim think like that but even if one zaza kurd think like that it's still a Problem. the enemy literally dreams to see us divided and here we are, because of no knowledge of our language which is kurdish and our different Dialects instead of praising this rich beautiful language with this diverse culture and different words of different dialects we differing ourselves from our kurdishness.
Wonderful video!
Greetings to Kurdish brothers and sisters from Afghanistan!
Happy Nowruz to all celebrating! May the new year bring with lots of joy for you and your family!
I heard Taliban is banning Nowruz in Afghanistan
Happy Newruz, hope Afghanistan enjoy peace, this year to be a year of prosperity
Thank you brother, I have never been to Afghanistan but I would very much love to
It was really amazing!good job
from Sulaymaniah❤️
Thank U for this amazing content❤️
hi Bahador! I really love your videos and especially this video was very eduational and interesting for me. I kinda grew up isolated from other kurmanji dialects but my parents way of speaking. So your videos are everything to me.
Like Daphne said in the video, you are doing an amazing job with representing all these languages. I really love your channel and hope that you can contunie with your good work!
I agree with you Berfin gyan. ❤ The videos are indeed educational and fun to watch. I hope that you can find time to learn more about the different Kurmanji dialects. It can be a challange in our busy world to learn everything we desire to.
Love your content Bahador Alast.
I'm from Indonesia ☺️
Thanks bahador u are really great while making those videos really appreciated
Dear Bahador Really great work! Appreciate for it
As a Zaza Kurd, i understood Kurmanji 70-75%
Sorani only 50-55%
Kurmanji and Zazaki are gendered languages, but i didn't saw gendered rules in Sorani
Note: when i see sorani+kurmanji on paper i can easily understand, but when they speak it's a little bit hard for me.
Anyways, Bijî Kurdkî💚❤️💛
Yes you are right sorani isn’t a gendered language
Abla, Hawrami’yi Kurmancı’den daha iyi anlayabiliyor musun? Zazaca ya daha yakın diye duydum, merak ettim
@@mayab.1633 Goraniceyi az çok araştırdım. Kelime haznesi olarak kurmanciye oranla nispeten daha çok zazacay benziyor. Ama gramatiksel olarak kurmanci ve zazaki birbirine daha çok benziyor ve örtüşüyor. Yani şahsen kurmanci daha çok anlaşılır benim için
@@larin22 çok ilginç, cevabın için teşekkürler 😊 keşke ben de bilseydim Zazaca :/
Do you live in turkey?
Happy Nourooz to all 🌱🌷🌞
I have to say that the Iranian Kurdish young man is very impressive 👏 👏
Absolutely prefect. Happy Newruz to all!
Thanks for this great program.
I noticed from the comments that many people have the wrong assumption the difference between Kurdish dialects is soleley because of the countries they live in. But isn't true. Kurdish is divided regionally not by state borders. The Kurdish dialect Züleyha speaks is spoken in all parts of Kurdistan. In West(Syria), South(Iraq), North(Turkey) and East(Iran) Kurdistan. The Kurdish spoken by Daphne and Roozbeh is spoken in South and East Kurdistan. Then there is Pehlewani (Kelhur Leki Feyli ) and Hawrami which are also spoken in South and East Kurdistan over the borders. And in North and pockets of West Kurdistan there is Dimli/Kirmancki(Zazaki) which is in a group with Hawrami. The differences we see between Kurdish dialects or languages is natural and the result of isolation by tribes and kingdoms mostly from early medievil times up until the second half of the 20th century. This is nothing unheard of. To name an example. Some of the Northern Italian dialects are in fact closer to French than to Southern Italian dialects. Or as some others mentioned Yorkshire English subdialects are not mutually intelligible to standardized English. Or Austro-Bavarian or Frisian to standardized German. But in contrast to these people Kurds never had the chance to form a standardized language for obvious reasons.
I think allot of people who are interested in languages actually know this and the persons who actually make a big fuss out of it are the usual suspects who are only here for political agendas.
One of the best, most accurate, and facutal comments I have read. I´m still learning more about our history, and our langauge (and dialects) has been one of the keys to explore that. Very well said🙌❤
@@daphnerasul Thank you very much. You were fantastic in the video.
That's true. For example Northern Kurds mainly Kurmanjis more of a descent of Medes and Hurrians. Meanwhile southern Kurds mainly Feylis are descendants of Parthians and Scythians. This is why they have been classified as "Kurdish languages" but not as dialects.
Also another intresting fact is Hurro-Urartian was an ergative language. This why only Kurdish Languages from all other Aryanic Languages are ergative. Kurdish languages have contrubitons of many languages from different origins and eras.
Kurdish isn't a language, and it doesn't have dialects. To speak of a certain "Kurdish language" is like speaking of a certain "nomad language". It makes no sense at all. Kurd means nomad, nothing more. It is not an ethnicity. It describes a way of living. Kurmanji, Sorani and Pehlewani are different languages that are mutually unintelligible. Yorkshire English dialects are mutually intelligible, contrary to your baseless claim. They are all Northwestern Iranian languages and their speakers have historically been nomads and that's exactly why they were referred to as Kurds. Kurd is as much an ethnicity as Cossack is, which means it's not. Since we cannot speak of a "Cossack language", we also cannot speak of a Kurdish language. Now, as for Zaza-Gorani, it is a separate Northwestern Iranian language family that includes the Zazaki language and the Gorani language family which includes stand-alone languages (not dialects) like Hawrami and Shabaki. Arabs named every non-Persian Iranian people "Ekrad". They even called Daylamites "Kurds of Gilan", which is stupid because Daylamites were not nomads. In the same fashion, they called Zaza-Gorani speakers Kurds too, and because of this categorization of the dominant regional power, Zaza-Gorani speakers, having no sense of ethnic identity, had no problems calling themselves Kurds. Some Zazas and Shabaks today reject the Kurdish identity. Shabaks were threatened with violence by Iraqi Kurdistan representatives because Shabaks didn't want to be included in a Kurdish polity. Zaza language is called Dimili in Zaza language, a clear reference to Daylamites, who had nothing to do with the so-called Kurds, and entered Eastern Anatolia/Western Armenia as elite troops in the Seljuq army, along with Kurd (NW-Iranic nomads) and Turkmen tribes after the Battle of Manzikert. They are all Northwestern Iranian languages and for sure related to each other. However, including you, most Kurds are politically motivated and staunch supporters of pan-Kurdism and Kurdification of Northwestern Iranian speakers. Some Kurds even try to identify Talysh people as Kurds, and I'm sure you would have called the dead Azari language a dialect of Kurdish if it was alive. This is no different than toxic pan-Turkism that considers every Turkic language a dialect of one Turkish language and identifies all Turkic nations as Turk. English and Austrian are Germanic languages, but they are not "dialects of German". Kurmanji, Sorani, Zazaki, Gorani etc can be considered "Kurdic", since their speakers were nomads or semi-nomads, but they are not dialects of some non-existent Kurdish language.
@@denizpamir Kurds satisfying your mamasita
Slav û rêz ji bo we..! Thank you very much for your great working ❤
Love to all my Kurdish Brothers and Sisters.
Persians ❤ Kurds
A beautiful video and a very happy and a Prosperous Nowroz To all my Iranian and my Kurdish brothers 🎉🎉🎉💐💐💐
Thanks Bahador for this video. I wanted to know if you could make it with different dialacts of "Luri"? or a Lurish-Kurdish one would be interesting.
Luri is just persian with an accent.
@@matrixxx3662 Luri is a Kurdish dialect. We aren't Persians
@@slipslip9163 Ok, sorry.
@@matrixxx3662اولا لری ممسنیو نه کرد میفهمه نه لر بختیاری و لر کوچک تازه لری کوچک اگه منظورته که توی لرستان صحبت میشه به فارسی نزدیکه ولی لهجه کردی مانند داره
I am a Kurmanji speaker in Khorasan - Iran , it is so amazing we have different dialects in our language . in kurmanji it means delicate or Pretty
No its different. I' m also from Sena and that word is different from the arabic word of ظریف
Behdini, they just left us behind 😪 😅
You should search about western kurmanci(semsûr, mereş, elaziz) its same as Khorasani language!
@@sadasdadadass8149 fun fact some tribes of kurmanj in khorasan came from Syria they are called shamal
@@sadasdadadass8149 I would love to know more thanks for sharing 😊
Can you pls make a video between Tagalog and Visayan people? We understand somehow but Visayan words sometimes really different from us.... I like your videos bahador Alas especially about Austronesian languages 💙💛❤️
Am astonished we baloch also say kare for work .. and I’ve came across many words which are same in balochi and Kurdish . For this reason I had many Kurdish friends
Kurdistan 🤝 Balochistan
'Kare' is same 'Kar' in hindi which again comes from Sanskrit 'Karya'.
Bro Balochi kurdish and Pashto WE came from the same region northern part of iran
Balochi word for work is kaar not kare...
@@BigMoney398and the Kurdish word for work is also kar which is similar to Baloch
But where she is from Karê means to be able
The editing was awesome! Thank you Bahador for uploading this, as I said in the video it was a pleasure to take part in it. I have enjoyed reading all the beautiful and cheerful comments and some great insights into the origins of certain words we used in the Kurmanji, Sinai (Ardalani) and Sorani dialects. Indeed it was educational, again I have learned so much. Also thank you for the sweet and encouraging comments from kurds and non-kurds. It warms my heart to read them and to see non-kurds pointing out the similarities of our dialects to their respective languages.
However, I want to point out several things. Firstly, I know Züleyha personally and she is fluent in Kurmanji, in fact it is almost perfect. Secondly, I also think that more of our beautiful kurdish dialects should be exposed to Kurds and non-Kurds, so if anybody feels encouraged to take part and make a video about it on Bahadors youtube channel, please do. It would be appreciated to see the different ways we speak in for instance Pahlewani, Gorani, Badini and so on. We should expose these beautiful dialects more and more. Thirdly the entire point about our video was to show that there are in fact some differences in our dialects for different reasons and that is entirely OK. What we should do is not only to point them out, but also to try to find ways to learn them and by that also learning more about our history and who we are. Thank you again and take care of yourselves. Life is too short to hate and pick on others.
I didn't want to be too harsh on Züleyha. She did mostly a good job but honestly that second Sorani sentence was too easy to not be understood. Maybe she didn't hear it properly?
@@serdar3578 I understand what you mean, I think I might have confused her since the sentence I used was more of an expression rather than one which can be translated word for word. It's totally ok that you have your own interpretation of what you saw on the video.
Thank you so much Daphne for being a part of this video and for the lovely comment! Very well said! It was a pleasure having you, Züleyha and Rouzbeh take part in this video. I learned a lot in the process as well. Thank you.
My pleasure Bahador, keep doing the amazing work you do😊👏
@@daphnerasul hello daphne, forst thank you for taking part and representing kurdish languge. We dont want to be disrespectufl to her
But...
Your sentence: "be dilî xot, xoşî to xoşî min e" in sorani
is "bi dilê xwe, xweşîya te xweşîya min e" in kurmancî. This is basically the same sentence and very easy to understand for a kurrmanc, why did she struggle so much ?
Second:
av-jenîn = to swim
Consists of two words "av-" = water and "-jenîn" = to move. So the guy on the left was actually right, it means something like "water-movement", or "water-sports". In our dialect "jenîn" means to jog, but also means playing around. "Mele kirdin" on the other hand (in soranî) has an arabic root.
HAPPY NOURUZ DEAR BAHADOR. FANTASTIC AS USUAL:)
Nowruz is completely forbidden as Islam prohibits imitating shirk and acts of كافرون
there is a Hadith:
Ibn ’Umar (RAA) narrated that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
“He who imitates any people (in their actions) is considered to be one of them.” Related by Abu Dawud and Ibn Hibban graded it as Sahih.
Based on this it is safe to abstain than act on tradition.
The reason for not celebrating Nowruz is same as not celebrating Christmas, Valentine’s Day, Birthdays etc.
@@abuyazidabdal-malik258 😂😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@abuyazidabdal-malik258 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡
Great video! I wish you included a Kurdish speaker from Rojava as well ☺️ Happy Nowruz to all my Iranian, Kurdish, Afghan homies and everyone who celebrate it😊🎊🔥
Nowruz piruz
Iran
Kurdish
Afqanistan
Tajikistan
Azerbaijan
Turkmenistan
Uzbekistan
Qazaqistan
Qerqizestan
Albani
@@hadisharifzadeh4896 happy noruz
What an interesting video! Actually I love the fact that in Kurmanji they use a word avjeni for swimming. In Middle Persian there was a word āwzan to mean bath. I am sure it comes from that word. Also one interesting thing is that there are also some Turkish words like the word for lake. And I also realize that Sorani is somewhat closer to Persian. The second sentence of Sorani about خوشی I think was understandable by Persian speakers too if they concentrate a bit. At least me as a Greek, who is learning Persian, I was able to get the meaning.
Keep going on! بژی کوردان
as far as i known turkish words dont have too much and its close persian of course
For Avjeni the modern Persian word is Abzani
@@syavash20 exactly my dear
@@ali.k.5441 yeah I meant just some few words...
@@GeoAlekos yeah i know in general in turkish language has to many kurdish and persian words so in turkey some people dont know this and say this language actually doesnt exist but thats not true
Once again fantastic work. Wished you had a Dimli, Hawrami and Laki/Kelhuri speaker too.
Dimli/Zaza is not a kurdish language. When will you learn this kırdo?
@@dailamitezaza9948 keep opening new accounts. My comments have been suddenly quoted under several different videos with no connection at all by "Zaza" who wrote exactly the same. Does the Turkish state pay well 🤣
@@sher7174 What are you talking about? Do they pay me? they are our enemi3s l wish their name will be eliminat3d from Anatolia and lranzamin soon. Probably the owner of this channel will delete this comment too. He can not tolerate any negative comment against his turkic fathers. By calling us as kurd you are serving the en3my and annoying us.
@@dailamitezaza9948 I got suddenly re-comments to 5 of my comments on different videos at the very same time by 3 "different" accounts talking about the very same topic, but sure they are not connected. But sre I believe you. I am a Dimli and I know what I am and I am no ones agent.
@@sher7174 Yes it is not the first time that l'm replying to you. Because whatever video l look l come across your false comments.
We are Zaza, Dailamites of Parthian origin, our pride is enough for us, we do not patch ourselves to any other groups. We have learnt from our ancestors we have come here from Dailam region during Buyid expansion. Historical and linguistic evidences backs this claim. Although it has been 1000 years we still have many similarities with other Caspian languages such as the Talish which we don't have with kurmanji for the same words although we have been living close to each other almost 1000 years. Beside this there is no archeological evidence that we were living in eastern anatolia, the region was populated by Armenians before we came here. Some of names of Zaza villages are still in Armenian. Among Zazas there are some armenian, turk and kurdish villages who speak Zaza language but that doesn't mean that Zazas are kurd, turk or armenian.
Kurdish: dast xosh.kak Bahador gyan, zor supas, aweh zor jwan bou.
That's what I can say learning from my Kurdish friends in Erbil. Kurdish brothers and sisters, pardon the typos :)
Bahador jan, دست شما درد نكنه خيلي عالي بود داداش
I’m a Sorani speaker myself, but I found out that I understand Kurmanji much better than the other two Sorani speakers in this video, not that they did a bad job, but I’m just surprised at myself for understanding so well.
Also, it would have been more interesting if you had brought someone from Kermanshah, instead of Sine, since the Sorani dialect of Sine and Sulaymani is pretty similar and mutually intelligible. But that is just a small inconvenience because Rouzbeh did a great job, and great video as always ❤️
I speak laki and it was the same for me. maybe because we could see the scripts but those two couldn't.
It was interesting tho, we have the same word 'gole' means the formation of a body of water. 'Ava gul basaiu' means water has been accumulated! And Charmi is white!
@@amirmohammadi8272 Slaw bo xelki lakiakan ❤
Chawt mach akam. Slaw bo bakurewe.
@@amirmohammadi8272 I speak Kurmanci but i don't understand her. We speak basically old Turkmenian with persian influences.. the girl from suleymani was also very strange it sounds like Japanese
@@MS-xn8hl are u litterally saying that kurmanji is Old turkmenian with persian?
I'm an iranian persian and i understood 65-70% of sorani except for the "your happiness is my happiness" sentence which i understood all of it , which made me really happy but unfortunately for me i didn't understood much of kurmanji except for a few words , both sounds equally beautiful though.
Lovely language and people .
Exciting!!!
Loved that so much, especially Daphne
I understood almost all of them as a Zazaki speaker ✌️
somehow according to turks and donkeys we came from jupiter
Zazaki is closer to sorani.
@@nabazf8891 yes actually but i understand both kurmanji and sorani but overall sorani is more similar in vocabulary and grammar
I'm Kurmanji speaker but I understood the Sorani example more than the Kurmanji one 😆 I think she chooseed a hard one to start with
All of them picked some difficult sentences. Especially the girl from Mardin. As a kurmançî from Mardin I had difficulties to understand some kurmançî parts. 😂
Great video thanks
Thank you Bahador! You're doing a great job with this channel! I've been watching these videos for years and learned a lot! Great content!
One thing tho... Bro the sound is terrible.. it's not really your fault, but still.. at times it's unbearable..
Please encourage your guests to use external microphones and headphones. I think it would make the sound a lot better. Even a pair of simple wireless earbuds or even wired headphones would help a lot. As long as they're not using the shitty internal laptop microphones and speakers.
All love bro ❤️ Thanks a lot for these great videos 💯
Awesome work! Thank you for doing it
What few people know is, that we have in Kurmanji accentuated "K"s. The first word "karîn" for "to be able to" has a softer "K" and has the same root as the word for "work" -> "Kar" (which has a harder "K").
As for the test: The first sentences were tricky and hard. They should not have taken proverbs. I understand Soranî like very good, but couldn't decipher a lot of those.
And, btw, the girl in the middle has difficulty speaking Kurmanji. That affects how the other two understand it
Pir xweş e, wiha dyar e ku tu ji zanista ziman fehm dikî, u ji zaravên din dizanî, ez kesekî wek te dixwazim da kar pê re bikim ji bo zimanê kurdî
Bila peywendî bikin li ser torekî civakî.
@@zhiar3052 Dembaş, tu çî kar dikî? Yanî projeyên te yên sosyal medya hene, yan tu bi saziyeke dixebitî?
@@redurmaye2502
Niha tenê sosyal medya ye lê xweda ji me re asan bike dikarin projeya xwe frawan bikin
@@zhiar3052 Ê ka Emaila yan tiştekî parve ke ji bo em bikevin tekiliyê.
Dişînim lê namîne
Due to the lack of an integrated educational system for the Kurdish language, we may observe such cases too much.
A unified writing script will make Kurdish dialects closer to each other. still existing formal writing script for central and northern Kurdish is a great step toward standardizing the Kurdish language in the future.
The Kurdish language uses a vocabulary source created by all of its dialects.
When you start to know, how is another Kurdish dialect, you will realize how these dialects are close to each other.
my opinion: start learning to write with both Arami and Latin scripts. it is easy to learn.
As I am familiar with both Kurdish Sorani and Kurmanji, Sorani (Central Kurdish) is a simplified form of the Kurdish language since it doesn't have complex grammar.
I am not sure about that, I think Artificially standardizing Kurdish is a terrible idea. Local dialects aren't a problem, they all have a lot of history and heritage behind them, its better to just continue that individual local heritage. Even if we don't properly understand each other its fine. Its not that big of a deal in the modern world anyway, almost everything is in English now.
@@user-zj6hn4nb1m I agree with you. I also say we can go on with our local dialects, but existing a unified standard script for communication of all Kurds can be useful.
Nonsense. An unified writing system would help KurManc/Kurdish speakers. The majority of KurManc people do not use Arabic scripture like they do in Iran and Iraq and Syria. The majority of the the over 40 million KurManc/Kurds live since 6-7000 years in Anatolia and as we all know they use Latin alphabet
@rainhawk5264 it was called cuneiform. Not latin... cuneiform is the first written language known to men. It's in the Sumerian tablets.
@@user-zj6hn4nb1ma language is always ' artificially' standardized. The word standardizing implicates that...
Happy Nowruz to all those celebrating!
I see trees of green, red roses too
I see them bloom for me and you
And I think to myself what a wonderful world.
I see skies of blue and clouds of white
The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night
And I think to myself what a wonderful world.
The colors of the rainbow so pretty in the sky
Are also on the faces of people going by
I see friends shaking hands saying how do you do
They're really saying I love you.
I hear babies crying, I watch them grow
They'll learn much more than I'll never know
And I think to myself what a wonderful world
Yes I think to myself what a wonderful world.
Interesting I like it but I wondering how did you find these wonderful people from Kurdish community?
These wonderful people reached out to me:)
Are kurdish people not wonderful at all?
@@aldas9174 are there any nation wonderful at all?
@@vahsibatljohnny6682 every country have their own wonderful things... Do your country doesn't?
@@aldas9174 That's not what he meant. I know it came off that way, but he just meant to compliment them as wonderful people. Not insinuating that other Kurdish people are not wonderful.
I love the Apple clove concept. Very sweet tradition instead of arguing and fighting.
You should try it with your spouse🔥
It shows that us kurds with more cohabitation with each other, we will use to understand between us and quickly.
Guys we have to be United don't criticize each other. ✌️🕊️🇹🇯💚💛❤️
Peace
Thank you guys I am really happy to think and understand more my mother language ❤️❤️❤️
I am kurmanc from mardin/batman too.
It is very difficult. We habe to keep im mind that they are diaspora Kurds, which means that they do not learn Kurdish at school or as an educational language.
Unfortunately, Kurdish is not standardized and dialects can vary from village to village. soranî is maybe (60-70)% understandable for someone without experience. you can tell that the kurmanc woman doesn't have a good knowledge of Kurdish and her English doesn't seem to be that good either.
Her dialect seems to be from nusaybin, in nusaybin they say "tu karê" instead of "tu di-karî", because the "di-" prefix to build the present stem dont exist.
thanks for the video.
I speak Torî kurmanci very similar to the one in Nusaybin, the di prefix exists but we ignore it a lot. For instance if we say he is sleeping we say "ew di raze" or sometimes ew razayiya if we really wanna ignore the "di" haha. I believe that for us who are born and grew up in Europe only learning Kurdish from our parents and grandparents and not being exposed to Kurdish media and TV our dialect have not gone through the same changes as it would have if we had stayed in the motherland.
I speak exactly the same Kurdish as my grandfather spoke 100 years ago, he did not speak a word of Turkish so the Kurmanci is fairly "pure" most of the loanwords are from Arabic, it would definetly have been difficult if he would speak with someone who learned academic Kurmanci in a university.
@@Lost7one are you êzîdî ? I know many êzîdîs from nisêbîn (like my fathers side). And we speak like this
Ez xwazim, ez bînim, ez bêjim (i want, i see, i say). My mothers side is from batman and they speak like you said sometimes they have the magical "di-" and sometimes not 😁
for example
"Ez zanim" but "ez dxwazim" (more like
txwazim). They ignore it mostly when the "di-" is in the middle of the word. So they say "ez vekim" for i open instead of "ez ve-di-kim" "ez vexwim" (i drink) instead of "ez ve-di-xwim".
@@KBBelite47 I am Suryani but my family only speaks Kurmanci and no Syriac. Yes we speak like that also, ez txwazim, ez "t"vexwim. The funniest is my father's mother who instead of "Ew di hatin" say "Ew Tehtin" or instead of "Ew di hat" "Ew teht".
@@Lost7one that’s a funny story I never thought a suriyani would only speak kurmanci instead of Syriac
how can it be your family is not speaking Syriac and only speaks kurmanci wouldn’t they have used Turkish instead of kurmanci or how does it work over there
@@teknul89 In the village my parents come from all the adult christians were killed by Kurdish clans in 1915 and only the children were left alive, they were used by Kurdish families as workers and grew up only speaking Kurdish.
After the Turkish Republic was formed they were given the option to become Christian again and almost all chose to become Christian again except the girls who had been married of to Muslims because that was not possible.
The Christians were in Majority at this time and their leader Abdulkerim (name given to him by the muslim family he lived with) became the village mayor.
My father was born in this village and grew up speaking only Kurdish but he learned Turkish also because he went to school.
My paternal great grandfather was actually an ethnic Armenian from another village but that is another story.
If you speak Kurdish this is a video I found about my father's village, he mentions the geography of the village and then the story of the massacres
ua-cam.com/video/glDvJ0E7YvQ/v-deo.html
This was very well done. Amazing work all 3 of you and Bahador for organizing. And a note for the aggressive comments. Please bare in mind this video is about sharing language and this channel is about all languages and cultures. It's not easy to please everyone but I think Bahador does a very good job overall connecting positively with all nations and groups and religions.
I agree with you Mo, I like your analysis about the situation here. I hope that you enjoyed the video😊
@@daphnerasul Thank you. Loved it and you were fantastic 👏🏼👏🏼❤
The Shaddadids were a Kurdish dynasty who ruled parts of Armenia and Arran from the 10th to the end of the 12th century.
True. Before conquests of Mongolian turks
In zaza language there is masculine feminine like french and italian letter a is feminine in zaza language it is literal masculine and almost everything of objects has a gender and sentences are formed accordingly
@@homapilo6178 Same as Kurmanji
@@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani Turks and Mongols are different ethnicities.
@@Dr-Ekmek yes but kipchak turks are related with Mongols
Kurdish is one of the oldest languages in history but does not have a unified script and worth mentioning that Kurdish does not have a generally agreed on standard dialect. Kurmanji and Sorani have developed separate standard forms.
Kurds have a unified script but it depends on where in Kurdistan you are from
Those from Northern Part of Greater Kurdistan use Latin alphabet script and those from Central and Southern part use an Arabic script with modification and using Kurdish letters in it
Back then it used to be only in Arabic letters for those who lives in the northern part of Kurdistan
one of the oldest languages? that doesnt even make sense
@@_Turk_Otagi_ It was so obvious that a Turkish nationalist would call Kurds "out" for nationalism lol. He isn't incorrect though. Kurdish language has it's roots at least to 2500 BC. from a proto Indo-Iranic language. While Proto Turkish is assumed to have turned up around something like 500 AD
@@serdar3578 I dont care about ataturk and his slaves, but to be precise academically the turkish language began with the xiongnu(300 bce? Might be older) and proof of kurdish ethnicity is from a name of people called Qardushi(401 bce) mentioned in persian chronicles, some claim even the medians can be considered kurds but that is a hot topic among persian and Kurdish nationalists
@@rockinflemingo3075 That is incorrect. There is absolutely no indication that the Xiongnu spoke a Turkic language. But even if we pretend 300 bce is the time it came out. That is still 2200 years younger than the origin of Kurdish. The Carduchoi where just a branch off from the Medes as by Heredotus and Xenephone. But this is not the "origin" of Kurdish. The origin starts with the Indo-Iranian, if not even the Indo European branching off. Median is just a subbranch like Oqhusic is in Turkic. It's a later state. If we start from Median as source for Kurdish, we have to start from Oqhusic for Turkish. Which turns up roughly around 500 AD.
I was able to guess some words. Love from India 🇮🇳
Tü ji kurmance hindistaneyi 😁🖐️ bıra
Happy Nowruz to all Kurdish, Iranians and Persian community worldwide 😊😊
Thanks 🙏 i'm Kurdish
@@intj7853 you're welcome. It's a pleasure 😊😊
❤❤
Love to all people whose languages cross national boundaries, and whose languages have often faced discrimination, suppression and have been looked down upon 😍😍😍 and still survived till today
This is so amazing! I'm not even half way through it and love it so much already. Really amazed at how much I was able to understand even though at first it sounds a bit hard
@Prwsha Ismail کم کص بگو
@Prwsha Ismail شتر در خواب بیند پنبه دانه برو در کونتو بذار
@Prwsha Ismail من خودم کردم و ایرانی برخلاف تو بزغاله
@Prwsha Ismail البرز و زاگرس تو کص خوارت
@Prwsha Ismail من هفت جد آبادم نگهبان ایران بزرگ بودن من پدربزرگم تو لشکر ٨١ زرهی و ۶۴ پیاده بود پدرش هم تو قوای قزاق بود
That would be amazing if you could also make one between the 3 dialects of Lurish !
It would be so cool to have a Zazaki speaker next time :)
Pakistan 🇵🇰. In my home town Esakhel we also say se,ou(apple) exactly 100% like kurdish. Rest of Pakistan says (سیب)ِِ Also understood sentence . I with heart. Happy with your happiness. Also understood many others words.
Because Urdu is influenced by Persian and Kurdish is Iranian language 👍🏼
@@mehran5329 yes that influence is more in formal urdu language . In our regional languages of Pakistan people living west side of Indus river understand more Iranian words compared to east side of Indus river. E.g Milk is sheer kheer after crossing indus its doodh. Generally speaking shift line is Indus river between Indo Iranian language family with many expectations.
@@TauseefKhan-ei8mz you Pakistanis have got the same funny accent as Indian people hahah
@@mccardrixx5289 yes brother. We also make fun each others accent within Pakistan 🇵🇰.
@@TauseefKhan-ei8mz really? haha cool, Greetings from Germany, Bavaria btw o.O
Love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩 everyone
Same 💖
Sir I must say I love Indo-Iranian languages. We are connected with a lot of history. In fact even I am learning Persian and Kurdish languages and I want to say the Kurdish word for university is zanîngeh, which is interesting because zanîngeh has the same ending as the Persian "dâneshgâh". The geh and gâh basically meaning place. Similarly, if we compare the first part of it, you can see zanîn in Kurdish is knowing, and in Persian “dânesh” means knowledge.
Also We say Zanko for University And Ko Means Place too!!
It seems that modern Indo-Iranian languages are derived from the Iranic mother language not so far in history, I know both Kurdish and Persian, and do feel sometimes, on spoken level, that they are two dilects of the same language.
Infact these two languages still share vocablaries with other Indo-Europian groups such as Indian, Slavic, Germanic, so you may notice common words in Urdu, Russian, and even English.
yup you are right. And Persian belongs there too.
Zan in Kurdish is from pahlavi root
Wow. That's pretty cool.
I send all my love towards my Kurdish friends out there!
Romanian Aromanian here
I love "Rojda - Disa Dilan" and "Aram Serhad - Potpori"(I wish someone translated them in English)
I think you may like also "Mansour & Jamshid - Naz Maka". They usually sing in Persian, but this song is in Kurdish and very nice. I heard it at a wedding once and simply loved it.
@@alexeiabrikosov360 it’s a good song, one my own favorites. And it’s in the Sorani dialect if you were wondering. Potpori and Disa Dilan are in the Kurmanji dialect, both of them good songs as well
Wished you also brought a southern Kurdish speaker from Kermanshah/Elam
Happy Nowruz to all who are celebrating it. It includes people in India
I believe Parsis in India also celebrate but due to a different calendar they use a different day
@@arexta153 that’s correct. It is celebrated in August. And a state Holiday in my home state of Maharashtra.
Nevroza te ki bimbarek buve 😀🖐️
I’m Kurdish love Kurdistan I understand all this dialogue they speaking great programs
i’ve been waiting for a video like this in like forever,thank you so much for doing this and if only there was a kurd from rojava aswell😭,to all my kurdish people happy newroz❤️,may we celebrate the next newrozs all together under our beautiful flag❤️☀️💚 and in an independent Kurdistan✨
Where would you like an independent Kurdistan to be? Surely it's not possible at this stage to take out territories from 4 different independent UN recognized countries. Iraqi Kurdistan is already officially recognized as an autonomous region, so the question is do you want Iraqi Kurdistan to become an official country completely separate from Iraq, or do you want other pieces of land to become a part of it?
@@Rider-ed2mr i
meant the whole land that belongs to us kurds!
@@barbietime8136 But if you create a Kurdistan that takes territory from Turkey, Iran, and Syria, that would result in being enemies with all your neighbors and for a landlocked country that would be a disaster.
In your dreams, keep dreaming, have a good night sleep...zzz..zzz...
I think Faily kurdish is closer to Surani as I understood it much more that badinani. Thanks for making this video. Truly appreciate it.
Finally 😍
I'm from Western Balochistan(IR), and I gussesd the translation of Sorani part correctly. There was some differences for example : we don't have X/Kh or F sound in most of Balochi dialects.
How many dialects does Balochi have?
@@kurdx7778 I think 4. Makrani(Southern/Central Balochistan), Rudbari(Northwestern), Rakhshani(Northern), and Sulaimani(North Eastern).
@@hamedtaheri607 Thanks for the information. What about alphabet, do you a unified alphabet?
@@kurdx7778 Yes, our alphabet and official language is based on Makrani dialect(oldest and less mixed dialect) and it has a writing system. First Baloch textbook was from 18 century I think, but new alphabet and grammar is from 20 century.
That sounds your language is very similar to zazaki/kirmancki/dimilki/hewrami/sorani kurdish language because they also don't have x or kh sounds like for example in nort kurdish you say to well xweş and in zazaki you say weş or like eating xwarin and wardin
Love you 😍 Kurdish brother ❤️ from Kuwait
kak bahador thank you so much,I understood
sorani%100
roĵhalati %85
kurmanji %35 or 40😢❤
Her bijinn👏🏼
Destê we xweş/دەستتان خۆش/ very good initiative
Zor supast kaka Renas, hiwadarm tua niwman bet ka zmani kurdi ba shewayaki bash pshan bdyan.😊
Hi every one . My name is Sora from central Kurdistan. I am a linguist .just want to point out something which is important to your video etc. To speak your language ( Kurdish in this case) is one thing , but to have a wider knowledge in that language is another thing. Kurdish language consist of 5 main dialects and all up 45 sub dialects. So the explanations from our guests are limited, grammatically , everything is there and it's straight forward.
It's somehow like English language different dialect uses different synonym etc..
Eg: work = کار،ئیش
Can : توانین، شیان
So I hope this can help you guys a bit.
Thanks loved your video
as a kurd, the main problem with the education system in Iraqi kurdistan is, they don't teach us about the certain words that only kurmanjs are using like the word (Gole) of 10:50 or avjenyie. Instead they go right away to teach us about the Messed up kurmanji poems that we don't know what they mean or the grammer. I wish that when we were in like class 3 or 4 the whole kurdish book would have been about the learning of kurdish dialects for example southern kurdish like (lak) , Middle kurdish, kurmanji, and Goran dialects like zaza and Hawrami. I was just talking to a zaza kurd and because they were away from the Hawramis(their other Gorani speaking Dialect) and instead with the kurmanjs he said that they are not kurds but rather brothers of kurds. I don't care if he thinks that we were their brothers or step brothers but I do know that it's a big problem. And not all of the Zaza kurds around Dersim think like that but even if one zaza kurd think like that it's still a Problem. the enemy literally dreams to see us divided and here we are, because of no knowledge of our language which is kurdish and our different Dialects instead of praising this rich beautiful language with this diverse culture and different words of different dialects we differing ourselves from our kurdishness.
I understand all kurdish Dialects. Because kurdish Dialects belongs to one Family , the Kurdish Language.
everyone please be kind to each other and enjoy the video which is about language, not political stuff
I learned quite a bit of Dari Persian and I could get some of what the speakers from Iraq and Iran said, the one from Turkey close to zero. The fact they had similar struggles is remarkable. Seems like comparing Dutch, or even Frisian, to Swiss German.
I request you to make a video on the fact that there is a difference in language even among the Baloch
Zazakî versus Kurmanji would be interesting:) Some people claim that Zazaki is too different than Kurmanji or it is not Kurdish but Sorani which is grouped under Kurdish languages is more difficult to understand than Zazakî for me a Kurmanji native speaker.
fr its not sorani its kurmanji zhuru speaks by south and east and kurmanji saru speak by north and west, they changed from kurmanji xwaru to sorani bcz of soran pasha who leading south kurdistan
@@idkwhattosay0 Yes, true Pasha changed the language of kurdish to Sorani when he took over. Sorani only 420 years old language. And the City were Sorani became a standard language is only 239 years old.
Love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩💖
I would like to visit Dhaka
That's good, they almost understand each other; But there is a point; in real life and in face to face meetings, unlike distanced meetings, common senses, affections, passions etc are all involved so a better understanding should be predicted.
I'm Kurdish Sorani too but from Arbil and I did understand all what I heard from three of them
Interesting that everybody was living in Sweden (Swede myself) and yes, Sweden has a big Kurdish population.
Det stämmer Nicky, kul att du kollade på videon. Något intressant som jag märkte är att jag ibland i videon råkar säga något på svenska istället för på engelska. Det är intressant att analysera hur språkväxling sker och hur hjärnan aktivt jobbar för hålla koll på vilket som skall användas vid rätt tillfällen.
Thank you, I am also Kurdish and I live in Germany and I love Sweden. Greetings
Sweden is basically kurdistan at this point
The lady from Sulaymaniyah has such a beautiful smile
She is very pretty as well
Slemani girls are famous for their beauty
@@omaryrasha7650 And for their complicated and bad character.
@@serdar3578 maybe you encountered the bad ones but it's not like that my friend
they don't have a bad character but i have to admit they're very arrogant
sulaymaniah people are arrogant and prideful in general , it's in their nature
@@omaryrasha7650 Maybe I am generalizing a bit too much you are correct. But the point of prideful I don't agree. It is generally the lack of it.
Happy Kurdish new year Nauroz 2722
And respect to all my Kurdish sisters and brothers ❤💛💚
And thank you so much for making this amazing vedios about our rich language 🥰
As Kurds we love Bahador Alast 💜
kuffr
Astaghfirullah. You should do better
Where in the Quran does it say this?
@@abuyazidabdal-malik258 shut arab
@Prwsha Ismail تو که معلوم نیست داری برا ترکیه کار میکنی یا عربستان طورک کوهستانی
You should bring a dialect from the Badin Nasheed region, which is between these two dialects, so that both of them can be understood well.
Barzani had a mosque built in Kerkük ( English
Barzani li Kerkükê mizgeft da avakirin( Kurmanci)
SORANİ=?
I had a hair cut( English)
Min porê xwe da qur kirin (Kurmanci)
SORANİ=?
Osman had the car repaired(English)
Osman otomobila xwe da Temir kirin (Kurmanci)
SORANİ=?
How are causativ sentences in sorani Kurdish?
amazing. please keep your language alive.
It will be alive because in Iraqi Kurdistan it is an official language and Iraqi Kurdistan is already officially recognized as an autonomous region. They no longer require to teach Arabic there.
Greetings from Northern Kurdistan! ♥️♥️
Greetings from south Kurdistan 💚
@@thekurd3837 Slav bra ♥️ zor spas.
@@arifyanar8348 💐💐💐
@@arifyanar8348 slaw la to bra gyan 🌹
Neresiymiş orası vatansız seni ?
You should do one of these w/ Italian dialects. Sicilianu/Nalupitanu/Lombardi ect..
اطلاعات روزبه بیشتر از آنچه در سنندج معمول است ، هست . سپاس از فیلم خوب شما.
ALLAH BLESS THE KURDS
Love from Turkey to all kurdish people
I hope you enjoyed it😊
@@daphnerasul soranimisin
Kurds understand each other’s from the heart
There is some different dialect in kurdish languge like ,sorani ,kurmanji ,horami ,lori,laki,kalhori,zazaki, , so, some time its a little bit hard to understanding each other but i can understan and talk to all dialects because all dealects nearly same.
Zazaki is not Kurdish
i tried to pick some words as a turkish but surprisingly i couldnt even tho we live in same country. amazing how language families are accurate in this term
The Kurdish language and the Turkish language isn’t from the same family ;) Turkish is Turkic and Kurdish is an Indo Iranian/European language. And if you still don’t understand, Kurds and Turks are different ethnicities and our language is different!
@@SM-yj6ti thats what i tried to point out. i cannot understand anything because of different family
Nothing warms my heart more than seeing Turks and Kurds being kind to each other and respecting one another's language and culture.
@@worldly8888 i am a turk who grown in a kurdish majority town in turkey. i have a different perspective than most turks. i think most of the hatred is pointless and prevents people to explore the beauties of this country
@@koseku3 absolutely agree with you on that
This is so interesting! The word cermig - white, in Armenian is jermag white like snow. For all other white in Armenian is Spidag and I herd him say Spi I think too. So interesting. Thanks for the video.
Interesting indeed as the Armenian word Spidag was borrowed from Middle Persian which was spedag, but then in modern Persian the word changed to sefid. While Armenian preserved the Middle Persian pronunciation.
@@alexeiabrikosov360 cool, thanks for the info!
@@talinhajinian7459 You're very welcome!
@@talinhajinian7459 we have Spi or sipi in Kurdish means white too
Chermig, chermu descend from the word for leather which is cherm, dont know the reason for that. Spi is more standard.
Amazing
Well, so lovely film, remain safe you Kurds, love you from Iran
I am Persian and I understood most of it.
so which one is easier to understand? gilaki/mazandri/balochi or kurdish?
@@7mad211 I understood most of what the Iranian guy was saying. Perhaps Gilaki! Of course, when I went to Kurdestan I didn't understand anything. Here I read and listened a few times, then I figured out.