2024 Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness Off-Road Mountain Course Review
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- We challenge the 2024 Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness against our Off-Road Mountain Test Course. Can it make it up The Ladder? We put it to the test!
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This channel, more than any other source, directly informed my decision to buy a 2023 outback wilderness. I hope that Subaru keeps treating y'all well, youtube channels like these have authentic credibility that traditional media just lacks
Me too! For me I was between the wilderness and the onyx xt, and this channel was really helpful in breaking down the actual real world differences.
You should know that these are Subaru commercials and not an independent review. Subaru pays Ryan to make these infomercials, in a style that looks like a review. The car will ALWAYS pass every test, and do every well... after all, the idea is to make it look amazing so you buy it, and it worked.
@@uncalm The only difference between the Onyx XT (Sport) and Wilderness is that Subaru put a factory lift kit on the Wilderness, changed some bumpers, installed A/T tires, and added a transmission cooler. Otherwise, they are identical. Same AWD system. Same engine. Same transmission. Same X modes. The Sport, Limited, Wilderness are all the same vehicle just different cosmetic packages. There's nothing stopping you from doing that to a Sport using much better parts, for an overall cheaper price. The point behind the Wilderness is to buy a factory modified Crosstrek Sport that's under warranty and that is attractive to some people. If you do plan to modify... change tires, suspension, etc? Get the Sport. No reason to pay the premium for factory parts you're just going to remove.
@@TexasStormChaser Not saying you're wrong, but do you have any source for this? Creators now legally have to declare paid promotions, so unless he says it somewhere in this video, pretty sure you're accusing him of something illegal.
@@MrWilmaDickfitt Yes this is how these review channels make their income. They’re not real reviews, they’re infomercials. Still entertaining but take what you see with a grain of salt.
Everyone wants more power,different transmission, etc.etc.. Those things would raise the price of the Crosstrek and then it wouldn't be affordable to as many people. It's impressive as it is!
I have a 2016 crosstrek. Absolutely love it. Work in Healthcare with on call requirements and in rural area in a snowy state. Never once has my crosstrek not been able to make it. Sometimes called in the middle of the night with unplowed snow or blizzard conditions; the crosstrek has not failed me or gotten stuck. Loud inside but gets through about anything.
I guess I’m part of the “silent minority” but I don’t actually mind the plastic body cladding! If I have a gripe, it’s the gold accents -I think the “wilderness” badge is more than enough. For Subaru to get me to trade up from my 2019 Crosstrek, they would had to up the engine power (220 hp range) and ditch the CVT for an automatic transmission.
That wont happen.
I'm more concerned about the vulnerable plastic bumpers. The aftermarket still doesn't offer good steel replacements.
It will never be a serious crawler without a tcase that offers 2.0:1 or better gearing reduction. It doesn't matter if the tranny is manual, CVT, or auto. Subaru CVTs are actually somewhat decent now, but not for crawling without a decent tcase. Trying to crawl rocks/ledges/hills without a decent 4Low will result in damage...whether to drivetrain or to body panels.
Most CUVs are also severely limited in tire size, by small wheelwells and/or by available R&P gearing. So far, a unibody vehicle can only be easily modified so much, if it is not manufactured like a Jeep XJ or Suzuki Sidekick, with diffs that are fully divorced from the transmission. Lift is severely limited, wheelwells are difficult to open up, and re-gearing is a PITA.
For sloppy roads though, Subarus can be fantastic commuters. My 1st-gen Crosstrek handles icy/snowy highways like a champ, and I can get WAY better than the EPA hwy rating of 31MPG or so. One tank, I averaged over 46MPG, commuting in a middle lane with the cruise set at 55MPH. I upgraded to a high-flow cotton airfilter, BTW. With a big rooftop box and a hitch box, it can handle 5 and their luggage too, and also tows up to 1500lb quite handily...with this new Wilderness rated for up to an even more impressive max of 3500lb. That's slotted between the Bronco Sport Badlands and the Jeep KL Trailhawk.
@@RKmndoit’s not trying to be a serious crawler? If you want one of those go get a 4Runner or even better, a Jeep.
Nope I think it looks really good on some cars tbh plus those are the easiest parts to replace don’t require paint just clips
same i like the cladding but strongly dislike the accents lol scouring the internet for options of how to cover those up as soon as i get my ctw
Gotta admit that I cheered out loud when the little crosstrek made it up that last hill!
Seen the Fiat Panda 4x4 tackle a steep wall and did it.....I was amazed!
I did too
I knew you were going to make it up that hill when the hero music started playing. I loved the part when you put on your sunglasses and exclaimed, “Time to make this Subaru, Suba-do!” This moment literally gave me chills and it brought a happy tear to my eye when I saw you made it up there. Truly one of the most epic and memorable moments in Subaru off-road hill-testing history.
Great video again, Ryan.
I hope Subaru sells a ton of these so they continue to invest in this platform. Especially given how few vehicles in North America have this combination of size/capability. They represent such a great tradeoff for what most people actually do, day-to-day. I see *tons* of regular Crosstreks here in Minnesota, so I'm expecting to see quite a few of these Wilderness' soon, too.
it's going to be interesting in 3-4 years to see what they do with an electric version of this (3-4 years is when i expect to see one). Because unless they do something boneheaded an electric version should have a lot more horsepower and torque it can apply.
Thanks for adding that video . For some reason I want to keep watching more videos of this crosstrek Wilderness
Billygoat is the perfect way to describe it. Well done to Subaru for staying true to the mission, but also to you for devising a compelling off-road test - that hill is no joke. Looking forward to seeing it in the winter. Wish they would put a turbo in it though!
2025?
Subaru does offer a few Turbo models, I'm glad they still offer non-turbo cars, I for one don't care for the turbo nightmares that people have with them. Been thinking about getting a Forester Wilderness model in the near future, hope they keep the turbo out of them...or at least just an option not the only engine choice.
@@wildbill23c that's really interesting. I grew up in the WRX halo days and also drove Legacy's (non-turbo 3.6) so I didn't realize they had turbo nightmares.Maybe they can drop the old 3.6L in it lol - Ioved that engine.
and it did better than the Honda Pilot Passport on that last segment. The crosstrek has the advantage of being smaller and lighter. The extra ground clearance sure helps too.
I love the off-road test course you’ve built! The trek is killing it!
This channel 100% made me go with the Forester Wilderness! Love this videos and this channel
Love all of these in depth reviews, especially with Subarus. DSTV and Subaru seem to go together like the Crosstrek and dirt trails
Could you rate each of the courses on the test hill according to the scale that OnX uses? We know these don’t look that bad on camera, so that may help viewers get a better understanding of the courses…and of what kind of trails we might hope to tackle in the real world.
how does OnX rate trails? I'm a Gaia user
That music playing in the last leg of climb was so much pushing power in mind that I was watching and shouting on my sofa, come on come on, climb climb you can do this Subaru. 😀. By the way I own a Subaru Crosstrek 2022. Awesome content.
Love the video! It would be awesome if you could test it with different A/T tires like the wildpeak trails, 3Ws or the KO2s
Right, same course with the different tires to compare.
Awesome achievement getting up that last steep climb, Ryan!! Really impressive! Your course is a great test for any off-roader. I'm looking forward to further testing and comparisons with your Crosstrek Wilderness versus other brands.
Just bought this same one two weeks go . Very happy with it . I don't do much off roading ,but still nice to see what it can and can't do .
Never ceases to amaze me at how this crosstrek is able to dominate its terrain!! Just awesome. I’d love to have this but my account says…love from a far lol 😂😂 great video and test as always. Best on UA-cam🏆
Love watching these. Been a year almost 2 with my Forester Wlderness and still loving the ride.
If you don’t like the plastic skirtings, take your vehicle down to your local Rhino Liner and have them spray it with Rhino Lining. Extra protection plus a more rugged and durable look. I’ve seen it done. It looked excellent imo.
That final descent and climb was incredible! Good job Subaru.
Awesome stuff Ryan! What a heroic little car! Now we need a battle of Wildernesses!
I dont think people realize that many of Ryan's previous vehicles have not been able to get up the ladder recently. Maybe the slightly wet ground helped this, but even a couple of trucks couldnt make it up. I've only recently seen the regular bronco get up the ladder. How is this even possible with not airing down?
Ryan, how did this get up the ladder when the past vehicles, even with lockers couldnt?
I'm not sold on Subaru's AWD system, but in this case, I think weight has a lot to do with it making it up that hill.
@@mr2gud2u You'd be in the minority in that camp. Check out slip tests and you'll see their AWD is legit.
@pacattack81 I've seen it on a slip test. It's adequate. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I think Ford and Honda's AWD system out classes Subaru's AWD system.
Yet TFL doesn't make it up small hill climbs with their Subarus. Odd.
Cannot wait for the snowy portion, Ryan. As that is what everyone is excited for.
Not gonna lie I was rooting for that car up the last hill
This thing is a legit little Billy goat! I think it is truly a testament to how much Ryan loves his day job, which is more-than-likely his day & night & weekend job. If you haven't watched his road trip with this car, I think you might like it. I certainly did! I love this car. When I grow up, I want one! Yep... Christmas is coming.... I'm just sayin'!
You really pushed this vehicle to its limits, and it eventually came through ! These Wilderness Subarus are fantastic value for what they have been designed to do.
Would you test it against the regular Crosstrek
Big 🫡Salute to Team Crosstrek, the last challenge was awesome and thank you for not giving up on the Crosstreks ability like other reviewers have done in past. MY17 Crosstrek little Billy goat, has pulled off some nice achievements.
-Great Demonstration 🤘🏽
I bought a 2024 Crosstrek Sport but I was still really looking forward to this, it’s not exactly the same but it gives me an some idea of my car’s capabilities. I’m guessing my Falken Wildpeak AT’s would perform as well as those Yokohamas. 9.3” of clearance? Almost the same “ground clearance” as the Tacoma TRD Pro, Colorado Trail Boss and the same as the Ranger 4x4. Almost 30mpg on the highway with that amount of clearance and capability and you can get one less loaded for $33k’ish? Bargain.
my only argument to this video is finding a dealership that will actually have this model/package for the price you said [not including taxes and tages], or at the least, having the price anywhere less than 45k....
Another great video! Thanks for all the Subaru love. Your videos definitely helped me before I made the decision to buy my Wilderness in the past. I know you do videos all over the place, if you are ever in Arizona making something, I am out in the Phoenix area and I have a 2023 Forester Wilderness with a 2 inch spacer kit and bigger/better tires than it came with stock. Be happy to bring it out so you have another vehicle to compare and run through some trails. I take it overlanding everywhere
Mine is on order, can't wait to get it dirty! I'm looking forward to any towing tests you can devise for this model as you spend more time with it.
That last climb was insane. Love that I can do that with my CW (if i need to).
Hello i am a subscriber and i like your videos BUT.. at the same difficult last slope you had the bronco sport tested and in 2”attempts” your conclusion was its never gonna do this not built for this… and now crosstrek does it in 5 -6 attempts with momentum so its better offroader than bronco sport?? Com’on!! I think you are not fair…from a jeep renegade diesel th owner🤘
Keep in mind we’ve now run several vehicles up the hill and the conditions have made it more difficult. The expectations change over time. (See ZR2)
I agree. I watch his videos and definitely noticed certain biases. It's a shame, because he seems like a cool dude and having your own course is amazing...
Bronco sport badlands is more capable off-road but its interior is poor and is overpriced
Another great test video. The Subaru Wilderness variants seem to be tested by absolutely everyone in the US. It would be great to see how the standard single X-Mode, or standard variants of the Crosstrek, Forester and Outback perform over the same test. No one is doing that!
I have been waiting for this video since the announced the Crosstrek Wilderness..thank you!
It would be super interesting if somebody would do a video where they disconnected the front and rear sway bars on a vehicle like this.
The Ladder is a great hill to demonstrate the effectiveness of a vehicle's drive system. Your footage perfectly illustrates why Subaru REALLY should be equipping their Wilderness models with a proper pair of Torsen limited-slip differentials front and rear. Those, combined with the X-Mode's brake-based traction control, would make for a nearly unstoppable vehicle with zero compromises other than the small additional cost of the differential hardware.
I didn't think it would make it. Well done.
Fairly impressive. Imagine with slightly bigger and better AT tires (although the stock ones are pretty good choice for this car) Like the Falken AT Trails (non LT version to save weight). I have always maintained that the Crosstrek had the bones, sheer shape, size, and weight, to be one of the most capable offroad platforms Subaru offers if only it had the proper clearance, Gearinng, and Power Plant. Even tho there is not a Turbo, the Power to weight ratio is pretty good here compared to say the Forester Non Turbo. And the Cooler should make a difference. I'd still like to see a Turbo offering in this form factor, but this does really well with the 2.5 and even has the same tow capacity as the Turbo Outback Wilderness. It's quite an acomplishment. My Outback Wilderness with oversized AT tires on it gets abysmal MPG off the freeway, but ON the freeway, it gets as good as advertised or better, since in a sense, the larger tires give me overdrive. Around town stop and go however, it is not as efficient. This little Crosstrek has an MPG range that is very attractive considering it is a capable AWD that can do all the things it can do. It's the Litte Subaru Jeep. I carry a high flow compressor with me, but like was shown here, I have rarely needed to actually use it. The Wilderness are very capable in these situations. I wonder how the Outback would have done on this hill. It is a lot heavier, and I'm not sure the added power is as much of a factor as being light was here. The Crosstrek is a perfect blend of lifted, nimble, weight, powered by an adequate power plant and gearing combination. Databyter
Wow Ryan,
That last hill was very impressive. I am a big follower of you and, I have seen you trying that last hill with many other vehicles unsuccessfully and that little monster did it. Now that’s a real challenge.
I fell like I want to trade my 2021 Crosstrek Sport for that one. Still I am waiting to see if the Baja will come back. Thanks for this video.
That’s super encouraging. I have the big brother Outback; would love to bless my daughter with this “little Billy Goat!”😎🤣👍🏾
Every time I see the crosstrek wilderness, I regret my forester wilderness. It just looks perfect. I actually prefer driving my base crosstrek over my wilderness sometimes. Something about the smaller body (in my opinion) gives it a better, more sturdy, feeling ride. Thanks for another great video! Would love a wilderness edition video comparing all 3
Funny but I prefer the Forrester Wilderness because of the larger interior space and other features like rear vents.
@@vitor2650 there are things I prefer on the forester for sure, but for me, overall ride quality is better in my Crosstrek. Could have a lot to do with the 2.0 over the 2.5. I just feel some vibrations in the forester, actually felt them in a legacy I had as well. Not a shaking, but just some engine feed back that I just don’t get in the Crosstrek. Also not a fan of that big screen, so it’ll be interesting to see if the forester gets it next generation. As of now, both of my Subarus have the smaller screen. I traded my legacy because of how much I hated that screen and interface.
Yikes, 35k for a Crosstrek. Pretty impressive, but for that price they should at least include legit underbody protection and some sort of rear locker.
OMG great video! You had me yelling GO GO! on the steep climb and cheering at the end! lol
Which test vehicles have failed that last climb??
ZR2 Desert Boss. Hey, it just shows that the Subaru CUV with CVT, no dedicated low range is a more worthy off roader than a truck specially built for off-roading with rear AND front lockers, proper 4WD, and terrain management modes. 😅
Impressive little crosstrek!! Could you do one vs forester wilderness since same power plant but different vehicle dimensions, too see what has a better advantage on trail pls. I have a forester wilderness Ironman lift and premitive skid plates and it’s very solid on trails but that comparison make me wonder, who takes the win!! ???
11:01 Don't play this part loud at work on your lunch break, peeps will raise eyebrows. Or, heck, make it your ringtone if you want, its your life! 😅
🤣🤣🤣
I like your testing of the Subaru Crosstrek. I hate people saying "if you had a Toyota 4 runner..." ... totally different vehicles. Most people do not need those full framed rock crawlers. Not what the Subi was designed for anyway as you know. Best part is the 30mpg or better on the highway and the quiet ride compared to the Thirsty Framed vehicle that rides ... well... like a truck! No thanks! Don't need that! I bought my Honda Passport in 2019 because of your awesome review. For me, that is my go anywhere vehicle!
Besides the fact that a 4Runner is easily $20k more than this. This is a great little crossover. I have a Wrangler that will probably need replacing in 2 years. Going to seriously look at this when that time comes. I want something a little more comfy with the ability to go to OBX 2x a year. This can certainly do that.
Cant wait to see how well this thing tows. Especially if you could tell us engine oil, transmission and coolant temps
The test scenarios you went through, I was like ehh nothing amazing over other vehicles that can likely handle them also. But at the end when you attempted that dirt hill I was like ok then. Even if it didn't make it to the top it was still pretty impressive for making it at least about half way at least.
Subaru is an absolute outsider here in Austria, but in the mountains every second resident drives one.
That Crosstrek did pretty dang good considering its just a crosover with no transfer case, no lockers or limited slip. I bet a better set of all terrain tires would make a pretty good difference too.
Subaru is doing great with this Wilderness line. Still think I may get a Forester Wilderness in the near future....got some debt to get paid off first though. I have an HD truck now for towing duties, and I'm seriously considering selling my 2008 Ford Explorer 4.6L V8 4x4 Eddie Bauer edition when I do get ready to get the Forester. I don't really need the Explorer if I get the Subaru....and I don't really need another tow vehicle LOL....I can use the Subaru as a daily driver, and leave my 87 Ranger at home again LOL....right now the Ranger is my fuel economy vehicle HAHA!!
For the price of this vehicle with the add-ons included, the performance it puts out is incredible. It is a daily driver that has everything you need with some frankly impressive off-road capabilities should you live in an area where that is a necessity or are an adventure seeker. This vehicle isn't for the people who like off-roading, but rather for people who simply encounter off-road situations somewhat frequently. What a great little vehicle. I hope Subaru continues to develop this platform and adds more options for functionality.
Exactly. Not for people looking to seriously test their vehicles off-road, but it's for people who often encounter off-road tests on their way to trailheads or campsites.
Get you something dangley from the rear-view to help convey the steepness!
Great review of the off road capability of the CT Wilderness. Another video that solidifies my decision to buy one. Coming soon to my garage.
great video i was the first to see the video after 15 sec . very intersting to see the oil gearbox temperature via OBD after your 3th climb does it have a cooler oil gear? or heat exchager?
Offroading isn't just a hobby; it's a community, a brotherhood, where we celebrate our shared love for adventure.
I love how you show the true capabilities of all of your test vehicles. I’m especially fond of your SUBARU tests.
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previously he had tested it casually, but this time he really pushed and what's more, it was less steep and less dry than before.
Excellent off-road review! Moral is never give up!
Would love to see a side by side of an Outback Wilderness, a Forester Wilderness and a Crosstrek Wilderness on your course. Maybe SoA can oblige.
We’re working on it.
Yeah, but those are all for different markets. I sure would like to see a comparo between this one and a Sport.
I love this thing, would be a perfect daily for someone with pets, or just an active lifestyle. I used to not care for the crosstreks but I like them now
The ultimate trim would be the Wilderness Extreme. 2.5T with a real 6sp, Center lock, adjustable suspension, full 360 cameras and bash plates. Yes it would cost $45K and above. I would buy one.
My wife called our two previous Crosstreks billy goats. Looks like this one earned it even more so.
Always wanted one until I test drove it and noticed the lack of power and the CVT
Troll. Why would you test drive it when you knew it had a cvt from the get go. What a bs fake post.
@@pacattack81 Yep. Subie-hating trolls pop up on every Subaru-related video. Most of them can't afford a car anyway.
@@eskieman3948 ...or they'll gladly trade in their inherited Camry for one ONLY if it had 400 hp, a manual transmission, etc....all for under $25K.
I'm a jeep tech & bought a 2021 sport, love the ride & performance geat vehicle & average mpg to work 28!
@@frankweathersbee2553 Agreed! I bought my Sport for commuting and sold it 3 years later. I want another, now.
Feels like that trans cooler made a big difference. I feel I've watched other videos of similar attempts on hills like the last one and after 2-3 tries the CVT would be cooked.
The tranny cooler is a difference maker!
that's usually their biggest constraint is the transmission trying not to die lol
I like the green color
You’d think they could design those plastic wheel arch protectors so you could replace them for a larger diameter tyre and make the wheel wells larger so a lift and bigger tyres are easier to fit. It wouldn’t be that hard.
the effort for this video.. respect. thanks for this!
Hey Ryan. It would be interesting to see how some SxS/UTVs like a POLARIS RZR or Honda Talon do on the Off-Road Test Course. You know For Science! Or just plain fun.
We have a Polaris General on loan right now and plan to bring it out. For science!
That’s damn impressive given how steep that hill is and the terrain. I can’t wait for our snow to fall to see how it performs.
With a little jam I can get a Camry up that hill
Very nicely done. With your skills and that SUV, the ladder had no chance.
I'd love to see how the new Outlander performs in this circuit.
Thanks for the great video!
It’s cool but disappointing that Subaru stopped Manual transmissions for the crosstrek
Man I can’t wait to get one in the Sun Blaze Pearl color!
Ha- I appreciate Sarah-n-tune sense of humor-- she said " Did you ever notice- Subaru spelled backwards is U R A bus?" ha. Never notieed that- but as i said- I LOVE these little things-- seems like they'd be FUN.. but I don't care for that huge screen sticking up there--and the CVT.... and yes- a FRONT facing camera for " off-pavement" would be GREAT.
The URABUS joke goes back to the Forum days. Good times!
The previous vehicle was less fortunate, this condition is more convincing, both the humidity of the climb and the enthusiasm and aggressiveness of the driver.
picked mine up last week in magnetite grey. pretty impressive love it so far. trade my 2018 forester XT for it. major drop in ponies, definitely not a rocket ship like my forester XT but i'll get used to it... I hope... lol
I'm sorry, but I think competition has caught up to Subaru's traction control. Look at the latest Honda Pilot, way WAY less wheel spin before TC engages and sends power around. The wheels on the x-trek go for a wild ride before they get clamped down, which then violently lurches the car forward. That's not bad, but it's not great either.
Just bought one today after your previous video!
I’m looking at this Subaru hard
Only problem I have is Horsepower and torque I think they could improve it
It going to be hard going from v6 to a four-cylinder engine
But I like everything else
So the Crosstrek did it better than the 2023 Chevy Colorado Desert Boss going up the ladder. Amazing!!
What a great video, Ryan! Very well done, mate!
Ah the crosstrek. love the plastic black outlines
another fabulous video and demo for this vehicle!!
I now know what my next car will be. Great vid! Thank you.
Really impressive. But normally one does not start a hill climb like that without taking momentum into it first. You started practically on the hill.
Time to add a semi-real rock crawl portion to the test course 😊
This thing did so much better than the compass
DEEP SNOW TEST!!! and also should do a side by side with your CT sport
Exactly!
very nice video! I wonder how my 21 6MT Crosstrek would fare at your off-road test course, would the manual transmission and different rear differential make a difference? I have beaten regular CVT Crosstreks while light offroading in the past, wonder about this Wilderness version. Cheers!
smoked?
@@JeffSpehar-ov1cn my bad, corrected!
The shame with the Crosstrek platform is that it's the Impreza but lifted with no downtravel- that info paired with a sub-200hp engine makes a Crosstrek seem kind of redundant versus the Outback wilderness. Interesting look though!
This Trek is a beast!
Love the looks of the ‘24 models more than my ‘22. Pulled the trigger too early I guess. Oops. I saw a comment somewhere that the CTW looks like a G-Shock on wheels. I agree and I love it to death. Lol!!
Can’t wait for a snow review!
That hill test was very impressive. Subaru C T rocks. 👍🤘
Man, I have never seen you giving any vehicle that many chances climbing up the "ladder"....😅
What's the mobile home for? Field office?
Yup. Field office.