2024 Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness Extreme Off-Road Trail Test
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2024
- Time to build a more advanced off-road test route through our Peninsula Proving Grounds. We then test it with the 2022 Ford Ranger Tremor and the 2024 Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness!
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Subaru please sponsor this guy. He does more work for your products than any other youtuber.
At this point you should start making excavator reviews, great work as always.
Building your own course is very impressive. Glad to see that the Crosstrek made it through mostly unscathed!
As an avid camper/backpacker/hiker/mountain biker/kayaker who does so with an awd cadillac ats, I can confidently say that the standard crosstrek would be all the offroad capability I would ever need to enjoy my hobbies. As it stands, the ats has never failed to get me to where I need to go, but there have been times where the gravel roads would get very bad and I'd have to pick my line very carefully to make it through. I'd be that guy who gets to the trailhead and turns heads because every other vehicle there is a truck or "off roader" suv, then I roll up in my caddy lol. The reason I don't bother getting something more capable is because even though I get out for an adventure every single month, 95% of my time is still spent on road. Fuel efficieny, comfort, and on road performance still far outweigh my need to sacrifice those things for really nothing more than peace of mind when the road occasionaly gets rough. And for reference, I live in michigan and still go winter camping in the up and to the remote areas of our beautiful state, so dont assume that the only reason my awd sedan can do those things is because i live somewhere like florida lol.
Tldr; the standard crosstrek is all the capability most people would ever need, even if they live an active outdoors lifestyle.
Love the old sand logging trails👍
For a split second, when that excavator started beeping, I thought Ryan was cussing and it was being bleeped.
I just read your post and 20 seconds later I thought the same thing. My brain is fried hahahahaha
Heard the samething 😁
Your videos have had the effect Subaru was hoping for... Soon there will be another one in the PNW.... Last month I ordered the same green CTW and waiting for it to come in next month. So I was excited to see this video when it popped up this morning. Good job on all your videos and getting this nice testing ground set up.
His and other videos along with the safety factor Consumer Reports did, AND crash tests led me to by my first ever Subaru. It's a 2024 Forester Wilderness.
The green looks so good. Ideal color for the CTW.
@@drivingsportsI hated this color. The dealer had green or red, so I chose the red CTW with the gold accents on the roof rack. The car is great, and it looks ridiculous enough to make me smile whenever I see it.
All the CTW colours are awesome !
My dealer gave me a Crosstrek Wilderness while my wife’s Ascent is getting serviced. I was truly surprised how comfortable, quiet, and solid this car is.
Quiet? Surely you jest.
@@mr.bnatural3700 yeah looked at getting one as well as an outback, both felt really cheap and were not quiet at all.
😂😅
My other vehicle is my 1982 toyota pickup, so my crosstrek is VERY quite.
I'd think that Crosstrek would feel awfully cramped after driving your Ascent though?
Ryan, Thanks for pushing the Crosstrek Wilderness through this trail. Since the first time I saw the preproduction car, I wanted to figure out how to reduce the lower lip. You have just proven to me that in needs to be removed for better clearance. It's a little shovel, of course it's there for getting air into the CVT cooler so ... trade offs. Anyway, Thanks for a great video and improving the proving grounds!
Makes sense. I live in colorado, and our merge lanes have a short red light for each car. There is no way you could get up to 83 to merge. The lights space traffic out so you do t need to speed.
Yeah I was thinking it might be good to remove that. But then I started thinking it may be there to direct air to where it needs to go to cool the engine? Or is it just there for show? in which case it could be taken off.
But of course you know what this would end up resulting in... You would just keep pushing the car until you bottomed out the front end and hit something important that you really don't want to be hitting 😮😅
Hey does anyone know of a worse voice to text / autocorrect system than what you find on UA-cam?😲🤬
@@billricheter5678most of the highway around here does not have the lights. Around here that's just an in town thing during rush hour when essentially the traffic is not moving anyway. 😅😞
I just bought one of these. The front bumper 'lip' is too low, Gonna have it removed. Excellent vehicle so far. So glad they made the 2.5 ltr available on the Crosstrek!
@@billricheter5678 yeah we have those here too. But I'm talking not during rush hour. Bose lights are not where you're out on the more open freeway where the speed limit goes up another 10 mph. Although when you're in town it's not exactly fun getting stuck behind the person that thinks ..."well 30 miles an hour will be perfectly fine to pull in front of oncoming freeway." You never want to be around the right lane of the freeway here during rush hour, 😅😖
I just wanted to show my appreciation to you and your outstanding work. You are favorite car review channel. Keep up an outstanding job!
This trail is a great idea to weed out the pretenders vs the contenders.
I just bought a 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness in geyser blue with all options and LOVE IT! Thank you so much for all your detailed and great quality videos, you defiantly made my buying purchase super enjoyable! Keep the wilderness videos coming!
how much mpg are you getting on yours ?
@@eduardorivera7723I’ve only had it for a day, so I have less then 100 miles, but in my busy city commute with tons of stop lights, my average is 25mpg, I on the way home from the dealer freeway was around 28-29ish
It looks like the biggest challenge for it was the loose dirt, which would challenge most non-hardcore vehicles. It would be interesting to see it redo this course in a year when the trail is hard packed. It will still have the angles and dips, but the loose soil should harden up.
It would also be interesting if Ryan had funds to swap the tires out for more offroad type tires and see the difference. Those tires on that car are nothing more than all season tires...they're less aggressive than the plain old M&S tires on my 2WD Ford Ranger LOL.
@@wildbill23c nah, they are decent tires, but certainly not hard core off road tires. they are much better than all season tires though.
@@wildbill23c It's not about the funds. They tests vehicles as they come out of the factory, especially on these CUVs when most owners hardly will push things to the limit and Ryan like to show what the capability is when the limits are pushed.
@@funnybeingmeif I buy an all-wheel drive it is going to be pushed Especially the wilderness version.
Otherwise I'd just buy a sedan or a mini van
I wish the Crosstrek had as much approach angle as it did departure angle.
No dip sherlock
The Subaru Crosstrek, for the price and the features, is still the best bang for the buck on the market.
(Edit…I had to laugh at the Mazda protege guy comment 😂)
Overpriced garbage.
@mattalexander4699 what are you buying that's better & cheaper?
@mattalexander4699 lmao .... you obviously don't know that Toyota owns a 20% stake in Subaru. Yet it's overpriced garbage.
Nice observation from someone who is making payments on a Toyota. 🤣.
Just for the record, I own one also, ordered it back in 1998, a Limited & mine has a TRD Supercharger on it. I also ordered and own a '21 Subaru Crosstrek Limited. And obviously since it's in my pic, a little, slow slug from Chevrolet.
If your gonna make negative comments, I'd make sure I'm not driving something that has the largest share hold in something I'm ragging on.
Doesn't help your knowledge level.
They are getting overpriced for a small car...
I would love to see all the wilderness go up against each other, to see how they compare. Done though various different level obstacles
I’m a big guy, 6-10 and this car fits me. I love it! I want to see a video just on the Bobcat and heavy equipment,😂. Seriously though!
That little crosstrek continues to impress at the price point.
I bet the RAV4 TRD would not have made it.
Bronco Sport Badlands NEEDS to make an appearance on this trail.
As always thanks for the hard work you do Ryan. Love your content.
Oh man, this videos are so helpful, and the fact that you are actually building the trails yourself is an amazing experience for you for sure. 👍🏻
Nice video, would be curious to see a Maverick Tremor on this course if you can get your hands on one.
A Maverick in general on the course would be interesting. I'm leaning towards getting a Subaru Forester Wilderness, but also kind of curious as to how the AWD system in those Mavericks performs in these scenarios.
Seen the crosstrek in action….this is a great little suv! Easy in the city and off roading. Not going to climb rocks but pretty capable in what you need it to do. Well done Subaru….good test
I definitely think what matters with the Wilderness models is that it's what these "offroad trims" from other brands are supposed to be, not just throwing on more plastic cladding and all-terrains and calling it a day.
What a great review! I'm truly impressed about the high level and quality of the overall production in this, including that course building, camera work and the amazing review itself. So complete and interesting to watch, loved it. Everything is just so well put together, Thank you so much for bringing this!
Thanks for uploading another great video! The best part about the channel is that you use a wide variety of makes and models and you have helped me appreciate new vehicles
I would love to see another run of the Outback Wilderness with the new courses you have built.
After watching your videos on the crosstrek in snow and dirt, I'm beginning to believe if you could get it going fast enough uphill, it could take you to the moon. Incredible little vehicle.
So capable 👌🏼thanks for sharing your content with us!
As always a great video! Thank you. I've found that turning off the eyesight front collision is essential when doing rougher trails. I have a 2024 OBW, and had a 2202 OBW (same issue). You'll find that it cuts power and limits throttle even before it tells you (blinky lights and sounds) or actually stops the car. Drivability goes way up with it off. Would like to see you repeat some of the same more challenging sections with it turned off. You might just find that the Crosstrek moves through those sections much more easily.
That's very interesting
I want to see a cx50 and a passport on this
The Crosstrek did surprisingly well. Thank you for the review!
You continue to make interesting and fun videos! Love it!
Ryan you’re the best ! Thank you for this review.❤
You never disappoint with your content. Keep it up!
Fun to watch video, I hope Subaru gives you some commission as I bought one of these (same color) after watching your videos! I absolutely love it!! Also I learned something new about blackberries!
I don't know about commission but Subaru did loan him the car
Great video as usual, Ryan. Looking forward to seeing more vehicles on the new section. I was curious, have you ever had occasion to test any of the Torq Locker aftermarket auto lockers on any of your courses side-by-side with a stock Subaru with XMode? I think you had the video a while back where that guy had one on his Outback, but that wasn't your own vehicle/course, and if I remember right you had your 4Runner at that time, not a Subaru.
Great demonstration I will not be taking my New wilderness through that type of offloading, but it’s great to know and I am enjoying the heck out of my new SUBARU. This is our sixth one.
Been on the fence of buying this for a while. Love all the videos, definitely going to make the purchase. Would love to see the same course completed with your pick in more capable tires.
Id love to see a video where you compare the older subaru awd systems from the 2000s agained the current xmode system. :)
That would be interesting
I would really this! This is a great idea!
As someone who has both kinds, I am certainly going to make a video on it.
@@TheCreateOutdoors that's awesome! Just subscribed to your channel.
What's more fun? Testing these vehicles on the courses or using a Bobcat to move stuff? Love to see these videos and it is awesome to see you build your own courses. Your videos are the reason I bought my first Subaru Crosstrek. Keep it up!
Bobcats are hella fun.
Bobcat.
You and the throttle house guys probably have the best jobs out there! Thanks for putting so much into your content. It’s truly a passion and it shows.
Another great video Ryan! I'd love to bring my Bronco Sport Badlands with Toyo At3s to that course (I live in Seattle).
Thanks for the excavating and Crosstrek review DS - here in Tasmania I’ve owned 12 Subarus over many years - in fact we have the highest proportion of Subarus per capital than anywhere else in the world - I am pleased to see that Subaru have reintroduced the analogue coolant temperature gauge after removing it in 2008 which I suspect is why so many have overheated and destroyed engines because a simple red warning light like I had in my 2010 XT Forester meant it was too late because the engine was cooked - we also get a lot of CVT failures like Nissan’s XTrail so I’d like to see Subaru/Toyota reintroduce a conventional automatic transmission as Nissan has now done with the new Pathfinder - Crosstrek Wilderness has good ground clearance and looks great with all that reintroduced body cladding to protect fenders etc that all started with my original 1997 Forester LTD which came with 280mm of ground clearance - we have blackberry plagues here because some British idiot decided they wanted something to eat on their bushwalks.
I love this car. My wife has one and i have a cx-30 and this car holds up so well.
Love your videos!! I love the fact that you are doing something different than other channels who also review cars! Because of your channel my wife and i purchased an OBW. Keep it up man!! Please take the OBW on this trail!!
Same! I bought my Forester Wilderness because of this channel.
@TheCreateOutdoors My wife had never owned a Subie until we got our OBW. I currently own a 2015 WRX so I already knew what to expect from Subaru. It's been 2 years and we love our OBW I wish we would of waited to get all the upgrades the new ones have but oh well.
@@def336tones personally I like the 2022 over the 2024 but to each their own!
@TheCreateOutdoors The 24 Outback has a Harman Kardon sound system and a heated steering wheel that ours doesn't have that's about it honestly.
@@def336tones I’m pretty sure you can upgrade the 22 to have the sound upgrade (my 22 FW has it) but yeah, nothing you can do about the steering wheel.
Nice course and nice video. The Crosstrek did very well. Curious to see how well a Bronco Sport Badlands would do, which is what I have.
Dude...I love the content. Also take that protégé guy lol
Thinking about a purchase of one of the three Wilderness. Impressed by the Crosstreck but not sold on it. Great Information.
Great video. A bit struggling here and there, but to be fair, I wouldn't mistake what you built for a road 😂 I've been all over Alligator River in our Forester, and nowhere there are the roads anywhere close to what you got. But it's nice to know that if I go nuts entirely - like you, Wilderness will see me through. 🐺👍
Great job once again Ryan 💯 Do you think my Crosstrek Sport would make through? Man you have one of the best jobs!!
Although the wilderness only has a half inch more ground clearance than the sport that light scraping that the wilderness was doing is going to be a harder impact on the sport. Especially if those are rocks you're going over instead of loose fluffy dirt.
And of course the wilderness has " lower gearing for more low end grunt"
Shocked that the Crosstrek Wilderness did well on the tougher off road course. As watching the video, I thought it was completely stuck.
With longer travel suspension and a front lower lip not as far forward this could be an even more awesome car. It would also be cool to see more of these in rally and rallycross races and longer suspension travel could easily win over some potential customers.
Great video. First time I've seen the Wilderness really struggle on your channel. Now I know what to maybe avoid in my 2022 Forester Wilderness ha
Slight bit of click-bait I would say…The crosstrek looked “challeged” -but other than getting it’s nose stuck -made it pretty smoothly.
@@matthewjohnson1211 You own a Wilderness? He was testing the brake vectoring or whatever it's called. Usually, it can get itself out when it's stuck, on his video and others I've seen. The difference here was him having to use more gas and momentum. That's good info.
That was all just soft, fluffy / turned up deep dirt just waiting to be kicked out of the way. All of these brake vectoring all-wheel drive systems wait for the wheels to start spinning before they hopefully transfer power to where it needs to go. Spinning wheels in "loose fluffy deep kitty litter box" dirt are just going to dig in. The trick is maintaining forward momentum and not bashing parts off of your car. 😅 Pick a Good line in advance , drive to it/"Keep Moving through it and hope for the best 😅😁
@@Madaster1917 No, I don’t have the wilderness -but I would trade my 2019 in a sec if the wilderness came in manual transmission! The one negative I can see about the wilderness (besides CVT) is the approach angle. I was just looking at that lower front lip at the dealer last week and here in Video in kinda became an issue.
Approach angle on the FW is better than the CTW but I would probably still do one of those obstacles with caution
Nice work on the course.
Great video as usual! I'd love to see you test a new 2024 Tacoma Prerunner on your course -- 2WD with a locker. That should be interesting!
That’s how I’ve got my ‘23 Ranger configured…2WD with a locker.
I just replaced my Tacoma 2WD w/ locker with a crosstrek wilderness. I can tell you the Tacoma would not have gotten up the first hill with loose dirt. Cause I did exactly the same kind of thing this winter and got stuck.
I had an old GX470, and it was a fun vehicle. But I am very happy with my new outback. It is just so much better for what I do, which is mostly long road trips driving in a varied conditions from the desert to snowy mountain roads.
I hope you're able to hang onto this new test area. It's just going to get better over time.
We own it, so it will be around a while.
@@drivingsportswould you rent it out to enthusiasts?
@@LongIslandMopars Haven’t thought about it much. Site needs some development before we do that.
@@drivingsports Gotcha. Thanks!
In Xmode 1 (snow/dirt) might turning off vehicle dynamics improve xmode performance (allow more wheel spin)? would be good to know as many Subarus only have single mode X-mode.
love my 24 crosstrek limited! they didn’t have any wilderness available so i saved some $$
Is there a video where this vehicle is loaded with gear for camping and tested? Great video!👍
In our road trip video the trunk is full of gear.
Thank you for showing what's possible and what's not with the Crosstrek! It's quite simple really: serious off roading? Get a jeep or a truck or something. Fun, safe and reliable car for the road and occasional off road diversions on dirt, gravel, easy to moderately difficult sand/mud/snow/ditches/rock crops? Subaru leads the way (Crosstrek Sport or Wilderness or Outback Wilderness and such). I've never been disappointed with the Subaru brand.
You think a 2024 outback wilderness with AT tires like wild peaks could get through this?? I feel like I saw they improved/tweaked the mode in the 24 models to do a bit better. Want to hear your thoughts. Thanks!
Nice course for good and real testing. Could i recommend testing first top sellers like tuscon phev , rav 4 prime, nissan rogue eforce ,subaru forester?
what a beautiful car. I hope to buy one of those in the future
Pretty cool test track for these CUVs. Although my criticism would be the ditch might be a little to deep for CUVS, seeing that the Crosstrek is such a compact vehicle. I imagine every vehicle will scratch their front fenders on this section. Also the terrain is still very fresh, almost like loose sand in some section, which is tough. Needs some rain to pack it down. When you have to use the locker on your Ford Tremor on one section, that means it's too much for crossovers.
I can agree with this, if it's too deep for the CTW, it's probably going to be difficult for all the others. Bronco sport might make it though.
Sooner or later, we'll have to give the wife's lifted 21 Crosstrek Sport to our college kid. Probably gonna have to buy one of these for her. Just for the cool factor.
Imagine how much better this would be with a inline engine, at least 190hp with at least 185lbft and a 8 speed auto
There is a big debate between Subaru owners if thay need X Mode deep mud & snow ,thay clame it will be enough to cancel traction control...
my opinion it will not make the Subaru move on.
X mode deep mud &snow is not perfect but is help a lot .
great video, thanks again.
I wonder if the forester wilderness would have made that ditch smoother with its better approach angle. Also, is the difference between snow/dirt and deep snow/mud just the absence of traction control or is there more to it? How much difference is there going through deep snow and mud between using snow/dirt with traction control off versus just using the deep snow/mud mode?
When are u gonna review the new Santa Fe XRT off road?
scrapes on the bumper are "badges of honor" and help offset the rock chips on the hood.
Conviced me to get a crosstrek wilderness as a daily driver / weekend trail capable camping vehicle. Thanks!!!
How about the Ford Explorer or Chevy Traverse on this test trail. By the way, you answered a big plant question. I have those blackberry weeds scattered around my yard.
Now that Subaru has FINALLY updated EyeSight(TM) to support manually transmission, I'd totally buy a Crosstrek or Forester if they brought back manual transmission for them, but nope. They had to get rid of manual transmission first, and then add EyeSight support.
I want to see which wilderness model does the best on your course!
So when can we expect the video of you running the course in a Mazda Protege?
Founder of Seattle? 🤔. Were people not already there? How’s that measured and where did they bring the blackberries from?
So when are we going to see the new Mitsubishi Outlander phev on this trail 😁. Or maybe even the regular Mitsubishi . Although it is a bit too slow?
The x mode / all-wheel-drive did not seem to want to be doing breaking on that spinning wheel in reverse.🤔
bring the momentum always bring the momentum ..
🤔 I'm not sure I would buy a used car from you 😅😉
Your content is always top of the line. You clearly are passionate about the cars and the content you make with them. I love that subaru is really embracing the heavier off road market. Sure, the car still has its limitations but it's coming along in the right direction.
Now give us a full video on the excavator! We want more excavator!
Curious as to how much air in the tires ? They looked pretty solid
I dont think he airs down on purpose
Ryan!!Wow!! Amazing site!! Could you please test the 2024 passport with the ivtm4 at this same location!! THANKS! :)))
I am waiting for 2024 Acadia AT4 tests.
Cool video … dude… Go Subaru go…
In Europe that have a Toyota Yaris Cross with an AWD system and traction control system done so poorly that 2WD vehicles surpass it. Too bad I couldn't see one try to tackle this course. 😅
The Yaris cross AWD is a hybrid and an embarrassment to AWD. It gets a 5hp motor at the back. It costs 30k and even with snow and trail mode. The fwd petrol version will perform better in rough conditions.... I garantee it wouldn't even make the entrance to this course...
Toyotas are terrible off-road except 4 runner which is ok
Thanks for this video !! Can you do this test at the same place with the honda passport please 🙏
I think he's waiting for the new updated passport to come out. From what I keep hearing the current one isn't so great. Kind of out of date with the all-wheel drive system. It ain't no to Rodeo ...
@@RRr-yl8zr Let's hope
Yet again, I want to see you doing this with your foot on the brake to see if it will transfer easier
Same. Everytime I see these wheels spinning, I wonder if just a bit of manual braking would get things moving.
What about trying the Old Telegrapf Road Australia ?
Probably high centered as soon as it hit the ditch in Palm Creek
How would the undercarriage hold up as a beach bum? Many days up and down South Padre Island? Gulf coast of Texas.
I don't understand one thing, why when it has awd4 so it spins the wheels only crosswise, when the car is stuck and continue with X mode, the car should move all 4 wheels and not just connect ? 🤷♂️
Now I really want to see that Mazda Protege to run this course...
I'm surprised how well the AWD systems in these Subarus perform. Wish my finances were in order to be able to get into a Forester Wilderness.
Mazda Protoge?
BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
The achilles heel with these vehicles isn't necessarily their 4wd system (although likely the system could still be more aggressive (say like Atrac for Toyota, which is one of the best); but it's more to do with the torque management in place to protect the CVT transmission. The fact that it has a CVT means the system has to be far more of a protective system in order to keep temps down due to the nature of cvts... If this had a manual option, or better yet, a conventional auto, the system could get way more aggressive with its torque transfer system.
Tires will fix alot of that. Good video.
I would watch a video of Ryan showing us how to do home renovation.
I would love to see how it would do with a different tire like a BFG KO2, even with the same size I bet it would be a big help,
We just received a set of Falken Wildpeak AT4Ws for it.
Keep doing what you already started, wenn won't stop supporting this channel
on a mazda? sorry. need to clean my monitor because i spat up lafing. is that mazda just a body on top of a 4runner i guess.
When you build a course, what is your base test vehicle? I would think something less capable than your ranger as most vehicles are no where near it.
I use the Ranger knowing how it will roughly translate to other vehicles - I’ve been doing this long enough.
The Subaru did great!
Since the drive system is computerized, could it be set to lock all four wheels?
It does not have actual physical lockers on it to lock. Most of these all-wheel drive cars just transfer power by using the brakes to stop the wheel that is spinning so that the wheel that hopefully has traction "hopefully gets all the power." That's why you see the Wheels start and stop start and stop with the spinning. These systems also chew the heck out of dirt roads doing this all the time. But the more momentum you can maintain hopefully the less of the spinning occurs.