I hate the way manufacturers are doing this. I dont like big ugly tablet screens in cars. I prefer knobs switches and the like. Most people do not need a touch screen. I dont have one in my current car and I dont miss it. Cars are becoming overly engineered simply to aim at a sad generation who cannot live without tech and gadgets yet a lot of younger drivers don’t want to drive these days as its not eco friendly.
@@jeffnaval4894 the obw isn't the most capable wilderness in all situations. The crosstrek and forester wilderness are much lighter and have shorter wheelbases.
Subaru doesn't bs with their awd systems. No matter which car it is, normal or extra trims...the Subaru awd system can just put the power down. it's not just awd for the spec sheet, like Honda or Toyota.
Just saw this. Honestly one of the best reviews I have seen. Informative, provide actual facts and context, straight to the point, no BS filler or self promotional "antics" or wasted time.
The off-road demonstration here is OUTSTANDING. The overview/mechanical information is thorough. I have a history of buying Subaru vehicles: THIS is MORE Subaru than I need.
My first video review of yours.... Amazing presenter skills, accurate and detailed information and specs, great tests and challenges, hilarious and gorgeous, keep up the great work!! :)
It's why we stuck with our '14 FXT. When they offer the FA24DIT (or whatever the current equivalent of the FA20DIT is called) in the Forester, we'll probably have to cave in and finally get a new one even though our UCV (Urban Combat Vehicle) is still running strong with near literally zero downtime (in fact, I'm trying to remember if it's ever been in for anything outside of an alignment).
I do wonder if part of the reason why it made it up the hill was because of software that controls every aspect of where the power is going to is only possible with an automatic transmission. That said, I wouldn't ever do anything that crazy offroad so I am totally ok with a more "primitive" manual drivetrain. my 18 wrx has driven through some insane blizzards and snow banks and all of it was on oem diffs. having more ground clearance in my city would make a lot of sense. and I just have a soft spot for wagons and hatchbacks
The car on the lift says Subauwu, Suba-UwU. I would love to see Subaru raid their parts bin and offer more options or aftermarket. I would love to see a WRX version of the Impreza or Crostrek chassis. Heck even a WRX version of the BRZ could be a lot of fun.
Still kicking myself for NOT getting the 2004 Forester Turbo to save 15 bucks a month (93 bucks in 2024 dollars). It was the ONLY year they put a "detuned" STi motor in the Turbo's. Later years had an uptuned regular block. No, I had to get a base X model. It was still fun...
Yes! The small auxiliary cooler in front IS for the CVT. That along with the uprated low ratio rear diff, bumps towing capacity up to 3,500 lbs 🤘🤘. Thx4 lifting vehicles during your reviews since most other reviewers don't do that 😇.
@Outformilkandsmokesmeh Toyota beats Subaru when it comes to CVTs their hybrid ones are legendary (but we all know those aren’t really CVTs traditionally). Even the mechanical first gear version they have is better imo than what Subaru is using.
Fuck power liftgates. One of the most irritating new industry features and they are the epitome of unnecessary tech that is infuriating as they only get in the way 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@davidrutledge1482Mine was over 200k when I exchanged it to another Crosstrek. The only problem was the MT clutch did not like to be burning all the time on our mountain tracks. So It is a CVT now.
@@carbonbased5041 mind if I ask about abit more what you mean ? Thinking about getting a manual cross trek. Can clutch burn even if your still trying to be as careful as possible in the back country ?
Hell yes on the WRX engine and manual, AND wheels that match the Bronze/Gold accents. It would be easier to swap in a dual range transmission. Add in some good quality skid plates and full sized spare on an external carrier then go hit Imogene & Black Bear Pass in Colorado and what trails we're still allowed to drive in Moab. Your reviews are the best and most fun to watch.
Your content has so many qualities Sarah! It's technically rich but easy to follow and absolutely entertaining at the same time, as you clearly love what you do and show that love in every step of the way. It's a real pleasure (actually a privilege, really) to follow you here in UA-cam, cheers and greetings from Brazil. 😊🙏
It doesn't have lockers because it uses the brakes to limit the slit on spinning wheels. It's not really meant for hard core trailing but it works well enough for the occasional in over my head moments.
Happy Humpday Sarah!!! WOW!! I was yelling expletives of astonishment at my phone, as you conquered the hill in that thing.😁 Having taken my JKU up and down that same hill, the camera doesn't do it justice on how steep it is, that was certainly impressive. I do get a kick out of all the Crosstreks running around Tucson with the all terrain BFGs on them, they look fun, in a few years they will be infiltrating the Gambler 500 cheater class for sure. Stay excellent!!!😎
I have the 2022 crosstrek limited ,they are almost identical. I paid $35,600 for mine .I'll jump in a wilderness when it comes with a turbo .the 2.5 isn't bad though. I can get up to interstate speed before the onramp ends .I love my Subaru!
Thanks Sarah, it is sad that there is no manual version, but it is surprisingly agile. I really didn't expect it to climb all the way to the top of that hill.
@@GJJC13 it's not a road racer, it's a sport utility vehicle. As long as it gets you wherever you are going it doesn't need a high 0-60. And as far as this video proves, it can even climb over things with normal road tyres.
We have a 2014 Crosstrek, and one thing we've found very frustrating vs. our previous Subaru is that the car wheels do not fit in the trunk. So when we take it in to have the snow tires put on or taken off, they have to put two wheels in the back seat. In our previous Subaru all four wheels fit in the trunk standing up, but the Crosstrek's trunk isn't deep enough for even one wheel to stand up facing front/back.
@@atticstattic It was an older generation Outback, before Subaru made it larger. When we bought the Crosstrek, the dealer said it was the direct replacement for the older Outback, as the new Outback was much larger. I'd say the front and rear seats are similar, but the trunk is about a third of a foot shorter from the back of the rear seat to the rear door, which makes the wheels/tires not fit. Even if you fold the seats down.
I was actually very surprised by the body control and cornering on that rally stage! Totally agree they need to make a Crosstrek WRX or STI or XT most likely, whatever they want to call it. My understanding is the main reason they haven't is the naturally aspirated Crossrrek already sells so well they can't produce enough to need to make another model to increase sales to a wider audience.
My aunt and uncle with the 15 Forrester XT in fact it’s the same color you have Sarah they just broke down and sold their 19 navigator and bought a fully loaded outback XT!
love it just paid off my 18 crosstrek this year so time to get a new daily driver with more ground clearnce and better features. I have 165 k mi on my crosstrek now still going strong 💪🏾
@@TheSpoovy There are a number of things which influenced my decision. These are the biggest factors: color display is much larger and easy to use, the 10 speaker updated sound system, the updated seats are more comfortable, the extra ground clearance and protective molding around the front, sides and rear, the larger but still quite efficient engine giving a great boost in horse power, the wireless bluetooth connectivity and charging, updated LED fog lights, adaptive cruise control and extra clearance. It also has decent towing if you will be pulling anything such as a boat or camper. I also love the looks. I have had it a little over four months and absolutely love it. My wife actually went and bought a Crosstrek Limited just a couple weeks ago because of all the safety features and Subaru's dependability/resale value.
@@jamesponicsan6129 Enjoyed my underpowered 2014 Crosstrek, but when they dropped the MT, I dropped Subaru. No love from Subaru for engaging, reliable transmissions, apparently.
The graphic on the rubber base in the cupholders is a mountain peak. The same mountain peak that's on the plastic trim on the rear bumper, the one that has the little Crosstrek on it. My friend just bought one of these. It's pretty badass.
Intersting that you just reviewed this. My girlfriend just bought a lightly used 2023 Crosstrek because is the last of the 6-speed manuals. With the CVT we couldn't possibly consider the Wilderness. :( Subaru could sell boatloads of a turbo STI version with manual transmission or at least one with with dual range transfer case and lockers. But honestly, for the price, you're within striking distance of a Tacoma Offroad with the V-6 and manual. I bet it has to do with EPA regulations and gas mileage requirements which are killing off performance vehicles with manual transmissions.
But turbos suck. And when they go bad whatever vehicle they're on is one slow-moving low compression dying dog. And the extra pressure and heat makes your engine not last long. And when turbos come on and are running they are sucking up the gas! Better to make a better naturally aspirated engine. And when you're trying to off-road that turbos on and if you're not driving like Grandma on the way to church on Sunday the turbos probably coming on and sucking down that gas
@@RRr-yl8zr Personally I'm with you, I prefer NA engines... But the reality is that turbo's only increase fuel usage when they're seriously boosting, an NA engine with equivalent horsepower increases fuel usage all the time... compare EPA estimates for equivalent HP/Torque turbo and NA engines... the turbo wins. The reason you're seeing all these vehicles with smaller engines and turbo's is that they're are getting heavier (safety reg's, tech, etc.) and need to meet tightening fuel economy standards... and manufacturers can't (or it's too expensive) meet these requirements with NA engines. Lastly, If the base engine isn't designed for a turbo, then you're right, they won't last as long... but if the diesel and aviation worlds have taught us anything it's that an engine that's engineered for a turbo (and reliability) can last a very long time (within 10% of a well designed NA)... you just have to take care of them (more frequent fluid changes, etc.).
I'm still not a huge fan of the strange blobby plastic fender covers and the way the body cladding dips down at the front and rear of the doors, but it looks better on the Crosstrek than it does on the Outback. Overall I still like the wilderness series quite a bit. My friend just bought an Outback Onyx XT and he is enjoying it.
I am so glad I got my 2023 Crosstrek Sport with a manual, and the strut tower brace. What a swiss army knife! It eats up deep snow. I drove through a major snowstorm last year and posted the dashcam footage.
You've got to do more reviews, you're channel is awesome, so much detail and knowledge. You're better than most review channels. Keep up the great work.
This Subi is lucky to be reviewed by Sarah. By far the foremost automotive reviewer. I was able to compare and see how the Crosstrek Wilderness is much more of a utility vehicle than my fancy shmancy German ride of the same size.
I had a 2004 Forester 2.5l Turbo, 5spd. So much fun! Off-road beast, towed our camp trailer really well and 90MPH on dirt roads. Could spin all 4 wheels on a launch... keep your little weenie CVT.
@@SarahnTunedEnthusiasts might want and be able to afford new cars, but it seems they're less willing to pay for extras they don't need, such as lane departure assist, rain sensing wipers, infotainment systems overpriced for what they are, etc. Enthusiasts just want a basic, quick, enjoyable car. Car makers don't want to sell these kinds of cars when they can make much more by adding endless bells and whistles. This is the same situation as housing: many want a starter home, but builders are unwilling to build starter homes when they can build granite counter-top mansions on the same lot and make more profit. Things will only change in these industries when consumers stop rewarding bad behavior and take their money elsewhere. Easier said than done, unfortunately...
@@SarahnTuned I'd argue it's more the fault of states with rediculous laws like California that severely limit how you can modify a car. Put an exhaust system on your car and not only do you get a fat ticket your car gets impounded and you can't drive it on the street until you "fix;' it. California is not the only state with rediculous laws.
I bought my 2023 crosstrek in 6sp manual super on the fence at the time if i should wait till the 2024 came out but with the baby on the way in march i went ahead and got the 2023. So glad i did after hearing the cancelled the manual transmission.
Once a upon a time the Crosstrek would have been my pick it its category but not anymore. Just can't get over the plastic cladding and the CVT. Keep up the good work Sarah and thanks for the review.
The cladding is functional. Plastic doesn’t rust. I’ve been cutting the body rust out of my vehicle all week. And welding. And angle grinding. And Bondo layering. And sanding. Soon painting, but winter happened early here. Would much rather have had plastic cladding in high-rust areas. I’d imagine that’s some of the reasoning behind how prevalent it is these days.
@@perilthecat Functional or not it's ugly and the car will still rust especially driving on salted roads. Then after a couple years all that plastic starts to fade and look really bad.
@@David-mm5vl The bits that are plastic won't rust! And I'd rather have slightly faded plastic than rust. My 2018 crosstrek plastic doesn't look faded at all by the way.
Even in Canada the MSRP is reasonable for what you actually get. I had been leaning hard towards a Forester but at this price point (roughly $40k CAD) and the features it has it is really appealing. Anyway, thank you for another fun review. 😁
Imagine the 2.4 litre turbo, a manual, wrx brakes with gold accented wheels. Now that would be real wild rallying beast! Great review. Thank you Sarah.
The launch delay is the air filter. Swap it for the K&N reusable filter, and no more delay (and some additional power, but lower mileage). This is true on the 2.0, 2.4-turbo, 2.5, and old 2.5 turbo engines. The factory filter is an emissions thing I guess.
Damn.. it did better than the Outback Wilderness climbing that hill! Very impressive. That 4.11 back differential gear ratio surely helps. Great review! 🔥👍 Oh btw, yes it comes with a CVT cooler. That's why it can tow up to 3500 lbs.
SPARCO ALL-TERRAIN TERRA 17x7.5 +45 in Rally Gold finish might look really nice on this car. As well as in white - for this particular car, that's also white.
At this price point the Crosstrek is very decent. Add the turbo and the manual with the shocks and now you're into a niche. A fun niche but still a niche.
Hey Sarah, I wouldn’t have believed it if I didn’t see it with my own eyes, especially after the takeoff, I would’ve never thought that thing would’ve made it up that hill I give credit to the driver have a great one🐧🐧🐧👍
The Crosstrek Wilderness is very cool! I would love one but... alas, had they offered the TY751 manual transmission from the gen2 Crosstrek I would have waited and bought one of these. But I am very happy with with my Gen2 Crosstrek 6MT despite having the FB20. It feels great to be able to row through the gears and not have robots interfere with the HCU (Human Control Unit). AVO does make a turbo for the FB20, so not all is lost for a turbo option. Great review on the Crosstrek Wilderness! Appreciate the thoroughness.
For some reason, I had not realised it was essentially a off-road version of the Impreza - I'd say it looks way better than the Impreza, (which frankly is a bit "meh"-looking) and the fact that the off-road look was not just for show, as is often the case made it all the more likable. And I can't tell you enough how great your reviews are - simply the best of the best. Thank you for what you do and Stay Awesome!
Great review. Your's are the only reviews I watch anymore. I have the Outback Wilderness and besides the touch screen it's a great car. Now my wife wants to trade her Outback limited for the Crosstrek Wilderness after watching this.
The minute Subaru stick a CVT in anything is the exact moment the fun is sucked outta the car MCM did the Levorg right by putting a H6 in the engine bay and 6speed swapping it 😂
I saw somebody that put an aftermarket locking different maybe Forrester wilderness? And it was pretty much keeping up with the Toyota 4runner. 🤔. Actually I think the Subaru might have been doing better in some respects / areas because I think it might have had a lift on it too?
At least the FA/FB series of engines has proven pretty reliable. Not a very powerful engine, but Subaru used to have a reputation of absolutely stellar reliability and if they can rebuild that it will be best for the brand long-term.
@@RYTHMICRIOT The head gasket issues were with the naturally aspirated EJ25. The issue was largely resolved by 2005 with further revision in 2010 I believe though the engine was discontinued after 2012. The FA/FB engines have never had prevalent head gasket issues and they are timing chain engines so less maintenance is required as well. All models except the STI switched to the FA/FB series engines from 2011-2015 excluding models which came with the EZ36 which was discontinued after 2019. The EZ36 was also very reliable and never had head gasket issues.
@802Garage I bought my daughter 2 H6 outback wagons. First was a 2002. Transmission failed around 230k, bought her another 2003, which lasted a couple years before developing overheating problems. Never had head gasket problems with either of them. Overall, they were decent cars.
@@RYTHMICRIOT Wonder why the 2003 had overheating. The very early H6 engines had some external head gasket weeping occasionally IIRC, but it wasn't super common. Most lasted several hundred thousand miles like yours. I have an EZ30 with 240K on it I think. Still ran great. The EZ36 was pretty much dead reliable overall.
The little donuts in the cup holders are for people who drink small drinks and don't like the holders which are designed for 'merican sized drinks. You can size up the hole, so to speak. I had the slightly anemic 14 Crosstrek and it was great. I now have the 24 Outback Wilderness, and it is exceptional. I don't think anyone makes better daily drivers for bad weather and crappy roads.
Yea, I have an Impreza. I dont go off road at all, and a taller Crosstrek would be hard for my wife to step up into. Even without x-mode and on the factory all season radials, it is a beast in the snow. I plan on replacing the stock tires with Michelin Cross Climate 2s soon for better snow traction.
Doesn't come close to the towing capability. My mom is here today visiting me. She bought one. Great car but I hooked up my tool trailer and nope, not going to happen. Everything else you say, I'm lost. I'm just a guy with trucks that pull multiple trailers. First time commenting and I have never been able to because your way more advanced than I will ever be. But I know towing. I'm done.
I've always wondered why they don't make an STI Crosstrek. I mean the Japanese car brands are bringing out more performance cars. I think its time for Subaru to really make it happen
This would sell really well if it had the turbo. Adding the manual box would do wonders as well. Still, for what it is, it’s got some serious off road capabilities. 👍🏻 Btw, the little engravings in those cup holders are mountain peaks. Roughly the same style you see on the trim in the back hatch. 😉
I respectfully disagree. The wilderness trims are far and away already becoming their bestsellers for every model, even with no turbo in the forester or crosstrek wilderness trims. This model starts at $35,000- do you think it would actually sell well if it cost $39,000 because of the added turbo? I don’t think so personally. That’s starting to get into a different price range considering the base crosstrek is $24,995!
I really love the speaker flash, so I know to turn up and listen to the engine . I really enjoy your content as I am a huge subaru fan as well. Plus, I get learn much more 😊.
I wish YT commenters would stop saying the never-gonna-happen cliche' of this car needing 400+hp, a manual transmission, Brembo brakes, carbon fiber suspension, etc. All for under $30K, too. If you don't want one, don't buy one.
They lost me when I heard CVT. I do not like CVT on anything... well, maybe a golf cart. Can you imagine what those hairy plastic 'skid plates' will look like after about a year of use? Nast-tee.
The blank spots next to the interior dash dimmer would be the lift gate button and the memory lift gate button. Since the crosstrek wilderness doesn't have the lift gate those buttons are blank.
I don’t know why Subaru doesn’t put the 2.4 turbo in the Crosstrek, at least the wilderness edition, it would definitely fit, I had the 2.4 in my 21’ outback and loved it
I don't foresee the turbo going into the Crosstrek for now, but, I'm expecting the turbo to possibly return to the Forester (they had an XT model years ago) by mid-2025. The demand is strong.
Thanks for the laughs, I've been looking for a second car and now I want to go test drive one of these, again thanks for a great review, you are awesome!
Loved this video, as a Xtreck owner I love my subaru. BTW there is an info panel for axis angle under car info just in case you are going offroad. Great Video I'm subbing!
The greatest thing about your channel is that you don't BS. You just see if the car or truck go up a steep hill. Simple! We love it!
There is BS in URABUS 😂 That URABUS content was funny!
We got a '24 non-Wilderness edition earlier this year. Great car, but I really wish Subaru would stop moving all the controls to the touch screen.
It takes eyes off the road to see the touch screen. Not the safest design.
100% agree! Unfortunately all manufacturers are headed in this direction.
I hate the way manufacturers are doing this. I dont like big ugly tablet screens in cars. I prefer knobs switches and the like. Most people do not need a touch screen. I dont have one in my current car and I dont miss it. Cars are becoming overly engineered simply to aim at a sad generation who cannot live without tech and gadgets yet a lot of younger drivers don’t want to drive these days as its not eco friendly.
That hill test was phenomenal. I don't expect it will pass. And was not even struggling at all. Well done.
I remember the OBW didnt even pass if i remember. Subaru did something with awd to improve it for some reason.
and it was not even in the most aggressive setting.
@@jeffnaval4894 the obw isn't the most capable wilderness in all situations. The crosstrek and forester wilderness are much lighter and have shorter wheelbases.
I'll love to see a cybetruck do that
Subaru doesn't bs with their awd systems. No matter which car it is, normal or extra trims...the Subaru awd system can just put the power down. it's not just awd for the spec sheet, like Honda or Toyota.
Just saw this. Honestly one of the best reviews I have seen. Informative, provide actual facts and context, straight to the point, no BS filler or self promotional "antics" or wasted time.
The off-road demonstration here is OUTSTANDING. The overview/mechanical information is thorough. I have a history of buying Subaru vehicles: THIS is MORE Subaru than I need.
My first video review of yours.... Amazing presenter skills, accurate and detailed information and specs, great tests and challenges, hilarious and gorgeous, keep up the great work!! :)
I’m wonderfully surprised it handled the hill test. Yes, a turbo-STI, version and manual of this would be awesome.
It's why we stuck with our '14 FXT. When they offer the FA24DIT (or whatever the current equivalent of the FA20DIT is called) in the Forester, we'll probably have to cave in and finally get a new one even though our UCV (Urban Combat Vehicle) is still running strong with near literally zero downtime (in fact, I'm trying to remember if it's ever been in for anything outside of an alignment).
YES!! THAT WOULD BE PERFECT❤
Yeah! Why not 500 hp while you're at it. All for under $30K, too!
I do wonder if part of the reason why it made it up the hill was because of software that controls every aspect of where the power is going to is only possible with an automatic transmission. That said, I wouldn't ever do anything that crazy offroad so I am totally ok with a more "primitive" manual drivetrain. my 18 wrx has driven through some insane blizzards and snow banks and all of it was on oem diffs. having more ground clearance in my city would make a lot of sense. and I just have a soft spot for wagons and hatchbacks
would have bought one if it had a manual and wasn't slow AF.
The car on the lift says Subauwu, Suba-UwU. I would love to see Subaru raid their parts bin and offer more options or aftermarket. I would love to see a WRX version of the Impreza or Crostrek chassis. Heck even a WRX version of the BRZ could be a lot of fun.
Home from a busy day at the shop, fighting a cold and need to finish writing a paper. Your video was a ray of sunshine in an otherwise dismal day.
Hot damn! I've watched a bunch of reviews on this car but I've been waiting for yours. You know Subies and are far more thorough than most reviewers.
Agree
Still kicking myself for NOT getting the 2004 Forester Turbo to save 15 bucks a month (93 bucks in 2024 dollars). It was the ONLY year they put a "detuned" STi motor in the Turbo's. Later years had an uptuned regular block. No, I had to get a base X model. It was still fun...
Yes! The small auxiliary cooler in front IS for the CVT. That along with the uprated low ratio rear diff, bumps towing capacity up to 3,500 lbs 🤘🤘. Thx4 lifting vehicles during your reviews since most other reviewers don't do that 😇.
No manual makes me all the sad. At least the Subaru CVT isn't a nightmare.
Exactly. Save the manual transmissions.
It's tragic!!!!!
It’s a nightmare
@@Saytheodd It's not. Overall very reliable and I prefer the way they tune their CVT to many other companies.
@Outformilkandsmokesmeh Toyota beats Subaru when it comes to CVTs their hybrid ones are legendary (but we all know those aren’t really CVTs traditionally). Even the mechanical first gear version they have is better imo than what Subaru is using.
"There isn't a power lift gate because they expect the owners of these to be in shape" 😂
Darn, it's a deal breaker but I am trying to get back in shape;)
@@bshaw71 Damn right! 🤣
Fuck power liftgates. One of the most irritating new industry features and they are the epitome of unnecessary tech that is infuriating as they only get in the way 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Crosstrek is a Swiss Army knife of crossovers. An absolute winner in my opinion
until it hits about 85-100k miles
@@davidrutledge1482Mine was over 200k when I exchanged it to another Crosstrek. The only problem was the MT clutch did not like to be burning all the time on our mountain tracks. So It is a CVT now.
@@carbonbased5041 mind if I ask about abit more what you mean ? Thinking about getting a manual cross trek. Can clutch burn even if your still trying to be as careful as possible in the back country ?
Thank you for being a caring and not a Karen. You truly care about giving useful information in your reviews.
Because i'm not a real journalist lol
People complain about the CVT but my Wilderness feels just right, if you drive your car normally it’s perfect this is not a sport car people
I second this. The CVT feels fine, but the FB25 is just adequate. A 2.0L turbo would be the icing on the cake!
Mod😊😊
Can we just add a turbo?
@@AngelSuazo-c4qthey should have added turbos to all of these not just the Outback!
“A place to teleport pennies to another dimension “ 😂 Perfect
Sarah: I very much appreciate the high attention to vehicle details and specifications mentioned in your videos. Thank you!
Loved the shout out to the gold wheels. Just got a set for my 23 WRX with a PROPER transmission.
Sarah im a car enthusiast and I don't need everything to be turboed or DCT equip
this car is just perfect.🤩Peace Sarah I love your videos!!!
Hell yes on the WRX engine and manual, AND wheels that match the Bronze/Gold accents.
It would be easier to swap in a dual range transmission. Add in some good quality skid plates and full sized spare on an external carrier then go hit Imogene & Black Bear Pass in Colorado and what trails we're still allowed to drive in Moab.
Your reviews are the best and most fun to watch.
no need for dual range subarus already do imogene and Black bear with cvt's
Thanks for another wonderful review Sarah!!
Also agree, Subaru step your game up with aftermarket support, and save the manuals!
Your content has so many qualities Sarah! It's technically rich but easy to follow and absolutely entertaining at the same time, as you clearly love what you do and show that love in every step of the way. It's a real pleasure (actually a privilege, really) to follow you here in UA-cam, cheers and greetings from Brazil. 😊🙏
Saving up to buy one of these! So i watch literally any video with Crosstrek thumbnails i love this video so much
Sarah, thank you for making learning about cars fun and interesting.
Great review. The Crosstrek does have a telemetry screen that shows what the AWD system is doing as well as angle of climb or decent and tilt angle.
Your reviews are the best and the most fun to watch! Thanks Sarah! Love your channel ❤
It doesn't have lockers because it uses the brakes to limit the slit on spinning wheels. It's not really meant for hard core trailing but it works well enough for the occasional in over my head moments.
Happy Humpday Sarah!!!
WOW!! I was yelling expletives of astonishment at my phone, as you conquered the hill in that thing.😁 Having taken my JKU up and down that same hill, the camera doesn't do it justice on how steep it is, that was certainly impressive.
I do get a kick out of all the Crosstreks running around Tucson with the all terrain BFGs on them, they look fun, in a few years they will be infiltrating the Gambler 500 cheater class for sure.
Stay excellent!!!😎
Finally someone, who knows what a CVT can do and what it can not do.
Wow finned rear diff body and cover. That's an upgrade I hadn't seen before.
I have the 2022 crosstrek limited ,they are almost identical. I paid $35,600 for mine .I'll jump in a wilderness when it comes with a turbo .the 2.5 isn't bad though. I can get up to interstate speed before the onramp ends .I love my Subaru!
Thanks Sarah, it is sad that there is no manual version, but it is surprisingly agile. I really didn't expect it to climb all the way to the top of that hill.
Me either! lol
You could’ve crawled under the center, when it was nearing the top.
Isn't it a bit slow from 0-60?
@@GJJC13 it's not a road racer, it's a sport utility vehicle. As long as it gets you wherever you are going it doesn't need a high 0-60. And as far as this video proves, it can even climb over things with normal road tyres.
The manual was a turd with 150hp
The head lights wiggle during start up
Kool!!
I think the Wilderness models do have a dedicated CVT cooler. That's part of reason they can bump towing from 1500 to 3500 pounds.
yes
I think it also has a bigger radiator
wow u the first car reviewer to review starting at the bottom! MAJOR KUDOS!
We have a 2014 Crosstrek, and one thing we've found very frustrating vs. our previous Subaru is that the car wheels do not fit in the trunk. So when we take it in to have the snow tires put on or taken off, they have to put two wheels in the back seat. In our previous Subaru all four wheels fit in the trunk standing up, but the Crosstrek's trunk isn't deep enough for even one wheel to stand up facing front/back.
What was the previous car?
@@atticstattic It was an older generation Outback, before Subaru made it larger. When we bought the Crosstrek, the dealer said it was the direct replacement for the older Outback, as the new Outback was much larger. I'd say the front and rear seats are similar, but the trunk is about a third of a foot shorter from the back of the rear seat to the rear door, which makes the wheels/tires not fit. Even if you fold the seats down.
@@Trifler500
There's no way a lifted Impreza would replace a station wagon thing like an outback, dealer was bs'ing.
Or just run a 3 peak rated all terrain tire year round.
EDIT - Unless of course you live in an area where you REALLY need dedicated winter/snow tires.
Was your previous Subaru crosstrek? Or was it a Forester or a outback...?
Only Sarah can give a review thats as informative as it is entertaining, in Sarah's kinda way.😊
I was actually very surprised by the body control and cornering on that rally stage! Totally agree they need to make a Crosstrek WRX or STI or XT most likely, whatever they want to call it. My understanding is the main reason they haven't is the naturally aspirated Crossrrek already sells so well they can't produce enough to need to make another model to increase sales to a wider audience.
The torque vectoring helps, and it felt like they dialed back the VDC some from the last one I reviewed a couple years back.
My aunt and uncle with the 15 Forrester XT in fact it’s the same color you have Sarah they just broke down and sold their 19 navigator and bought a fully loaded outback XT!
love it just paid off my 18 crosstrek this year so time to get a new daily driver with more ground clearnce and better features. I have 165 k mi on my crosstrek now still going strong 💪🏾
I traded my 2018 Crosstrek Limited in for the 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness about two months ago and I absolutely love it!
@@jamesponicsan6129 Looking at trading in my 2018 crosstrek at the moment. What do you think is most different about your new model from the old one?
@@TheSpoovy There are a number of things which influenced my decision. These are the biggest factors: color display is much larger and easy to use, the 10 speaker updated sound system, the updated seats are more comfortable, the extra ground clearance and protective molding around the front, sides and rear, the larger but still quite efficient engine giving a great boost in horse power, the wireless bluetooth connectivity and charging, updated LED fog lights, adaptive cruise control and extra clearance. It also has decent towing if you will be pulling anything such as a boat or camper. I also love the looks. I have had it a little over four months and absolutely love it. My wife actually went and bought a Crosstrek Limited just a couple weeks ago because of all the safety features and Subaru's dependability/resale value.
@@jamesponicsan6129 Enjoyed my underpowered 2014 Crosstrek, but when they dropped the MT, I dropped Subaru. No love from Subaru for engaging, reliable transmissions, apparently.
I really like your review style. No BS mixed with some sarcasm. Thanks for the review!
That extra intercooler on the front is in fact for the transmission! Its part of the reason it can now tow 3,500lbs!
That's awesome, the CVT cooler used to be integrated as a separate chamber into the radiator on past models.
The graphic on the rubber base in the cupholders is a mountain peak. The same mountain peak that's on the plastic trim on the rear bumper, the one that has the little Crosstrek on it. My friend just bought one of these. It's pretty badass.
This should be another epic review from her Sarah-ness 😊❤️
Yo,
I lover your car reviews. Your nuggets of knowledge are awesome
Because of this review, i just bought a new 2024 crosstrek wilderness. Just got it today. It's awesome. Thank you.
Congrats. Have you had to take it into the dealership at all? I see it has 2 recalls: instrument panel short circuit and broken driveshaft.
@u2josh no. No issues at all.
the additional heat exchanger is for the cvt. its what allows it to tow more than the non wilderness to keep the cvt fluid from overheating
It’ll probably also increase the longevity of the transmission under normal use as well.
I have been waiting for a review on this, and Sarah’s reviews give the best information.
Great, in Europe we can watch your video without waiting until tomorrow morning despite the time difference. That Subaru looks good.
Intersting that you just reviewed this. My girlfriend just bought a lightly used 2023 Crosstrek because is the last of the 6-speed manuals. With the CVT we couldn't possibly consider the Wilderness. :( Subaru could sell boatloads of a turbo STI version with manual transmission or at least one with with dual range transfer case and lockers. But honestly, for the price, you're within striking distance of a Tacoma Offroad with the V-6 and manual. I bet it has to do with EPA regulations and gas mileage requirements which are killing off performance vehicles with manual transmissions.
What ?? Price range of Crosstrek is in range of Tacoma??
Nice review! I just picked up the big brother Outback Wilderness. So far so good!
It needs a turbo and a electronic locking diff, and it'd be amazing.
Turbos destroy reliability
Not if you take care of them... If you treat them like most Americans treat their cars, then you're right. @@billricheter5678
But turbos suck. And when they go bad whatever vehicle they're on is one slow-moving low compression dying dog. And the extra pressure and heat makes your engine not last long. And when turbos come on and are running they are sucking up the gas! Better to make a better naturally aspirated engine. And when you're trying to off-road that turbos on and if you're not driving like Grandma on the way to church on Sunday the turbos probably coming on and sucking down that gas
@@RRr-yl8zr Personally I'm with you, I prefer NA engines... But the reality is that turbo's only increase fuel usage when they're seriously boosting, an NA engine with equivalent horsepower increases fuel usage all the time... compare EPA estimates for equivalent HP/Torque turbo and NA engines... the turbo wins. The reason you're seeing all these vehicles with smaller engines and turbo's is that they're are getting heavier (safety reg's, tech, etc.) and need to meet tightening fuel economy standards... and manufacturers can't (or it's too expensive) meet these requirements with NA engines. Lastly, If the base engine isn't designed for a turbo, then you're right, they won't last as long... but if the diesel and aviation worlds have taught us anything it's that an engine that's engineered for a turbo (and reliability) can last a very long time (within 10% of a well designed NA)... you just have to take care of them (more frequent fluid changes, etc.).
I’ve seen a lot of car reviews. And this is the best(detail wise). Top gear was the best track wise.
I'm still not a huge fan of the strange blobby plastic fender covers and the way the body cladding dips down at the front and rear of the doors, but it looks better on the Crosstrek than it does on the Outback. Overall I still like the wilderness series quite a bit. My friend just bought an Outback Onyx XT and he is enjoying it.
This was one of the best car reviews i watched. just as it supposed to be.
Great job!
I am so glad I got my 2023 Crosstrek Sport with a manual, and the strut tower brace. What a swiss army knife! It eats up deep snow. I drove through a major snowstorm last year and posted the dashcam footage.
You've got to do more reviews, you're channel is awesome, so much detail and knowledge. You're better than most review channels. Keep up the great work.
This Subi is lucky to be reviewed by Sarah. By far the foremost automotive reviewer. I was able to compare and see how the Crosstrek Wilderness is much more of a utility vehicle than my fancy shmancy German ride of the same size.
I had a 2004 Forester 2.5l Turbo, 5spd. So much fun! Off-road beast, towed our camp trailer really well and 90MPH on dirt roads.
Could spin all 4 wheels on a launch... keep your little weenie CVT.
Subaru has clearly made the decision to no longer target enthusiasts. I blame the bean counters.
Its because enthusiast that can afford new cars are becoming a smaller and smaller group, the whole system is full of issues.
Giving it the bean... counters
@@SarahnTunedEnthusiasts might want and be able to afford new cars, but it seems they're less willing to pay for extras they don't need, such as lane departure assist, rain sensing wipers, infotainment systems overpriced for what they are, etc. Enthusiasts just want a basic, quick, enjoyable car. Car makers don't want to sell these kinds of cars when they can make much more by adding endless bells and whistles.
This is the same situation as housing: many want a starter home, but builders are unwilling to build starter homes when they can build granite counter-top mansions on the same lot and make more profit.
Things will only change in these industries when consumers stop rewarding bad behavior and take their money elsewhere. Easier said than done, unfortunately...
@@SarahnTuned I'd argue it's more the fault of states with rediculous laws like California that severely limit how you can modify a car. Put an exhaust system on your car and not only do you get a fat ticket your car gets impounded and you can't drive it on the street until you "fix;' it. California is not the only state with rediculous laws.
get brz
I bought my 2023 crosstrek in 6sp manual super on the fence at the time if i should wait till the 2024 came out but with the baby on the way in march i went ahead and got the 2023. So glad i did after hearing the cancelled the manual transmission.
Once a upon a time the Crosstrek would have been my pick it its category but not anymore. Just can't get over the plastic cladding and the CVT. Keep up the good work Sarah and thanks for the review.
The cladding is functional. Plastic doesn’t rust. I’ve been cutting the body rust out of my vehicle all week. And welding. And angle grinding. And Bondo layering. And sanding. Soon painting, but winter happened early here.
Would much rather have had plastic cladding in high-rust areas. I’d imagine that’s some of the reasoning behind how prevalent it is these days.
@@perilthecat Functional or not it's ugly and the car will still rust especially driving on salted roads. Then after a couple years all that plastic starts to fade and look really bad.
@@David-mm5vl The bits that are plastic won't rust! And I'd rather have slightly faded plastic than rust. My 2018 crosstrek plastic doesn't look faded at all by the way.
This review is a work of art. Bravo.
Even in Canada the MSRP is reasonable for what you actually get. I had been leaning hard towards a Forester but at this price point (roughly $40k CAD) and the features it has it is really appealing. Anyway, thank you for another fun review. 😁
The Harmon/Kardon is totally worth, was doing some hard jammin to "You ain't seen nothing yet" whilst chasing down an Altima 2 days ago.
Imagine the 2.4 litre turbo, a manual, wrx brakes with gold accented wheels. Now that would be real wild rallying beast! Great review. Thank you Sarah.
All for under $30K, too? Probably worth trading in your Camry for that, eh?
Just lift a WRX
The launch delay is the air filter. Swap it for the K&N reusable filter, and no more delay (and some additional power, but lower mileage). This is true on the 2.0, 2.4-turbo, 2.5, and old 2.5 turbo engines. The factory filter is an emissions thing I guess.
Damn.. it did better than the Outback Wilderness climbing that hill! Very impressive. That 4.11 back differential gear ratio surely helps. Great review! 🔥👍 Oh btw, yes it comes with a CVT cooler. That's why it can tow up to 3500 lbs.
SPARCO ALL-TERRAIN TERRA 17x7.5 +45 in Rally Gold finish might look really nice on this car. As well as in white - for this particular car, that's also white.
Nah, BBS or Prodrives
At this price point the Crosstrek is very decent. Add the turbo and the manual with the shocks and now you're into a niche. A fun niche but still a niche.
Maybe, 500 hp and under $30K? May even be worth trading in your Camry, right?
No one would buy it it would cost like 45k
The hiiills are alliiivee with the sounds of "ARE YOU SERIOUS?!"
Hey Sarah, I wouldn’t have believed it if I didn’t see it with my own eyes, especially after the takeoff, I would’ve never thought that thing would’ve made it up that hill I give credit to the driver have a great one🐧🐧🐧👍
The Crosstrek Wilderness is very cool! I would love one but... alas, had they offered the TY751 manual transmission from the gen2 Crosstrek I would have waited and bought one of these. But I am very happy with with my Gen2 Crosstrek 6MT despite having the FB20. It feels great to be able to row through the gears and not have robots interfere with the HCU (Human Control Unit). AVO does make a turbo for the FB20, so not all is lost for a turbo option.
Great review on the Crosstrek Wilderness! Appreciate the thoroughness.
For some reason, I had not realised it was essentially a off-road version of the Impreza - I'd say it looks way better than the Impreza, (which frankly is a bit "meh"-looking) and the fact that the off-road look was not just for show, as is often the case made it all the more likable. And I can't tell you enough how great your reviews are - simply the best of the best. Thank you for what you do and Stay Awesome!
Great review. Your's are the only reviews I watch anymore. I have the Outback Wilderness and besides the touch screen it's a great car. Now my wife wants to trade her Outback limited for the Crosstrek Wilderness after watching this.
The minute Subaru stick a CVT in anything is the exact moment the fun is sucked outta the car MCM did the Levorg right by putting a H6 in the engine bay and 6speed swapping it 😂
I saw somebody that put an aftermarket locking different maybe Forrester wilderness? And it was pretty much keeping up with the Toyota 4runner. 🤔. Actually I think the Subaru might have been doing better in some respects / areas because I think it might have had a lift on it too?
I just bought mine with the same color "Pearl white" love it! Love this review!
At least the FA/FB series of engines has proven pretty reliable. Not a very powerful engine, but Subaru used to have a reputation of absolutely stellar reliability and if they can rebuild that it will be best for the brand long-term.
What generation did they fix the head gasket issues?
@@RYTHMICRIOT The head gasket issues were with the naturally aspirated EJ25. The issue was largely resolved by 2005 with further revision in 2010 I believe though the engine was discontinued after 2012. The FA/FB engines have never had prevalent head gasket issues and they are timing chain engines so less maintenance is required as well. All models except the STI switched to the FA/FB series engines from 2011-2015 excluding models which came with the EZ36 which was discontinued after 2019. The EZ36 was also very reliable and never had head gasket issues.
@802Garage I bought my daughter 2 H6 outback wagons. First was a 2002. Transmission failed around 230k, bought her another 2003, which lasted a couple years before developing overheating problems. Never had head gasket problems with either of them. Overall, they were decent cars.
@@RYTHMICRIOT Wonder why the 2003 had overheating. The very early H6 engines had some external head gasket weeping occasionally IIRC, but it wasn't super common. Most lasted several hundred thousand miles like yours. I have an EZ30 with 240K on it I think. Still ran great. The EZ36 was pretty much dead reliable overall.
The little donuts in the cup holders are for people who drink small drinks and don't like the holders which are designed for 'merican sized drinks. You can size up the hole, so to speak.
I had the slightly anemic 14 Crosstrek and it was great. I now have the 24 Outback Wilderness, and it is exceptional. I don't think anyone makes better daily drivers for bad weather and crappy roads.
Yea, I have an Impreza. I dont go off road at all, and a taller Crosstrek would be hard for my wife to step up into. Even without x-mode and on the factory all season radials, it is a beast in the snow. I plan on replacing the stock tires with Michelin Cross Climate 2s soon for better snow traction.
Doesn't come close to the towing capability. My mom is here today visiting me. She bought one. Great car but I hooked up my tool trailer and nope, not going to happen.
Everything else you say, I'm lost. I'm just a guy with trucks that pull multiple trailers.
First time commenting and I have never been able to because your way more advanced than I will ever be.
But I know towing.
I'm done.
Thanks for the wealth of technical info presented in the classic 'brilliant but brief' manner we all love you for!
I've always wondered why they don't make an STI Crosstrek. I mean the Japanese car brands are bringing out more performance cars. I think its time for Subaru to really make it happen
Agreed! Maybe, 500 hp?
9:01 Yep, it's the cooler for the CVT. This cooler plus the 4.11 final drive ratiosis what gives it the 3500lb tow rating.
This would sell really well if it had the turbo. Adding the manual box would do wonders as well.
Still, for what it is, it’s got some serious off road capabilities. 👍🏻
Btw, the little engravings in those cup holders are mountain peaks. Roughly the same style you see on the trim in the back hatch. 😉
I respectfully disagree. The wilderness trims are far and away already becoming their bestsellers for every model, even with no turbo in the forester or crosstrek wilderness trims. This model starts at $35,000- do you think it would actually sell well if it cost $39,000 because of the added turbo? I don’t think so personally. That’s starting to get into a different price range considering the base crosstrek is $24,995!
The CVT would most likely not handle the added torque spike of a turbo and the car would need a 'real' transmission in addition to the turbo.
Not knowing your background, I was really impressed with you climbing the hill and knowing those bumps are called whoops! Great review, thank you.
I hate those fake shifting CVTs.
They still fake shift in Subaru unless you do a brake stand.
@@mitchellhuth Or "Give it the BEANS"
I really love the speaker flash, so I know to turn up and listen to the engine . I really enjoy your content as I am a huge subaru fan as well. Plus, I get learn much more 😊.
I wish YT commenters would stop saying the never-gonna-happen cliche' of this car needing 400+hp, a manual transmission, Brembo brakes, carbon fiber suspension, etc. All for under $30K, too. If you don't want one, don't buy one.
6:30 the paddles are strictly for downhill down"shifts" to engine brake...!
They lost me when I heard CVT. I do not like CVT on anything... well, maybe a golf cart. Can you imagine what those hairy plastic 'skid plates' will look like after about a year of use? Nast-tee.
Sarah thanks to your review among others 😄I purchased a Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness!
The CVT is a major deal breaker.
The blank spots next to the interior dash dimmer would be the lift gate button and the memory lift gate button. Since the crosstrek wilderness doesn't have the lift gate those buttons are blank.
I don’t know why Subaru doesn’t put the 2.4 turbo in the Crosstrek, at least the wilderness edition, it would definitely fit, I had the 2.4 in my 21’ outback and loved it
I don't foresee the turbo going into the Crosstrek for now, but, I'm expecting the turbo to possibly return to the Forester (they had an XT model years ago) by mid-2025. The demand is strong.
Thanks for the laughs, I've been looking for a second car and now I want to go test drive one of these, again thanks for a great review, you are awesome!
9:05 Wilderness models have a dedicated CVT cooler, hence why they have higher towing capacity and better off-road reliability
One of my co workers have Crosstrek & i drove it few times, what an awesome & amazing car, Subaru are kicking it
Loved this video, as a Xtreck owner I love my subaru. BTW there is an info panel for axis angle under car info just in case you are going offroad. Great Video I'm subbing!
Great review as always, and thanks for the metric conversions!