2k Dev in 15 Yrs From 'Eyalets' ... EU4 Ottomans NOT Ridiculously BROKEN lol
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- EU4 Ottomans is just ridiculously OP....over 2k dev in eyalets with little to no AE in just 20 years...wtf dude
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Ramadan and ramazan are the same thing 😅
Ottoman indeed made Egypt eyalet in 3 years so that isn't broken at all, it was so annoying fighting against them 4-5 times. But Hungary becoming eyalet in a single war that's broken as fuck lol! They should bring an eyalet development system that you can still establish an eyalet with half of the country and capture other half in other wars. It was actually what happened with Hungary, most of it became Ottoman eyalet while some parts joined Austrians
Ludi,
A Core Eyalet will Not Join any overlord wars; neither offensive nor defensive. It can be annexed like a normal vassal tho
You can change a Core Eyalet to an Eyalet by a diplomatic action; ‘Grant Autonomy to Core Eyalet’ in the category of Influence Actions.
An Eyalet can be called to war after Currying Favors enough with it and calling it to war via a diplomatic action in the the category of Influence Actions again. It cannot be annexed until it is changed to A Core Eyalet via a diplomatic action; ‘Reign in Eyalet’ in the the category of Influence Actions.
And lastly, A VASSAL can be turned into An Eyalet via a diplomatic action; ‘Promote to Eyalet’ in the the category of Influence Actions.
Never really cared to do a rome run but after seeing the spain shenanigans im considering it. Can you play as ming or manchu to qing? I feel like no one shows how the mandate of heaven works
Did you try france? You can literally diplo vassal all of Italy in 30 years, +have 1500 dev and puppet Castille
2:30 "Denounce the *sex* practices"
Ludi staying true to all EU4 players I see
virgins are just better bro
@@LudietHistoria lmfao
@@LudietHistoria that's what the Chinese thought with their eunuchs
@@LudietHistoria based
I once had a turkish girlfriend, she also denounced any sex practices, so ludi keeps true to a real ottoman playstyle.😆
Ramazan is literally the turkish pronunciation ramadan.
ramazan bey and the ramazanoğulları dynasty ruled the territory of modern day Adana for quite some time
Bro in Urdu too
I am quite daunted by all the changes. I am playing as france. It is a whole new beast
for real
I wonder if it is going to be worth it for France now to take the estates statutory with all three mana privileges given on the first day; I have not tried it myself but it is EXTREMELY tempting 😂
Right? I didn't know what I was doing before, and now I have even less idea. It's fun though. Digital paint-by-numbers go brrr
Spain forms Roman Empire: wowwww great
Ottoman reaches its historic borders: noo, too op noooo!
I think the game generally suffers from failing to replicate why and how the empires of the time fell in decline, because you can just grow infinitely. I've never seen Spain forming the Roman empire, but in every game, if I don't intervene, the Ottomans control half of Europe by 1550 and by the end of they game they've reached Madagascar.
@@Kapito13 ottoman grows fast and falls fast. There are decadence mechanic and janissary rebels. Just like history. Even ai ottoman cant control lots of lands because i watched some timelapse 1.35 videos. I dont know your opinion that ottoman have reached to madagascar, maybe ottoman ai sometime can be too op :)
18:37 sublime porte actually refers not to the country, but to the palace. got the name because its gate is sublime, also diplomats were received at the gate and edicts were declared there as well, making the gate a symbol of the ottoman government
Ludi said the Jannisaries estate is a double edged sword but the Yatagan is famously single edged, Curious.
Yatagan is more suitable for light cavalry but still almost all eastern swords are single edged :)
The Kilij is Doubled edged 😳
The Sublime Porte was their diplomatic "nickname" (like the Peacock Throne for Iran, the Dragon Throne for China, the Court of St. James for England/UK, the Kremlin/Winter Palace for Russia) because their Foreign Office was based next to one of the gates of the Topkapi Palace, called, you guessed it, the Sublime Porte (gate). Most countries have those, although most modern republics boringly use their capital's names as theirs.
The peacock throne wasnt Iran tho. It was in the Mughal Empire
Sublime porte is not topkapı palace it is grand vizier’s palace
@@steadyzz2371 Nader Shah took it when he sacked Delhi with the koh-i-noor, among other Mughal royal possessions. Not for long though.
@@overpredor3412 oh, so just like Brazil's name, Itamaraty, which was the Foreign Secretary's palace.
@@steadyzz2371 "The Sun Throne (Persian: تخت خورشید, romanized: Takht-e Khurshīd), also known as the Peacock Throne (Persian: تخت طاووس, romanized: Takht-e Tāvūs)"
The original Peacock Throne was Mughal, until the Persian Shah took it as war loot. It became the Sun Throne, but most western sources called it the Peacock Throne.
I love 1.35, I'm playing england angevin tree, and I pu'd france, got austria in a random PU, and transferred norway as my vassalski. I think it's the fun type of Op and it's been fun dealing with AE
Could you do a second part on how to handle decadence/the ottoman power struggle? It looks like one of the harshest and most punishing disasters in the game, and I'd really like to know how not to get hit with a steady downward spiral like irl ottomans.
30:18 - That's pretty much how my Ottoblob game is going right now. In multiple wars, carpet sieging half the map, and still going "Oh look at my manpower, I can almost double my army." It's so absurd but my God is it fun.
8:30 they are basically the same word, ramazan is turkish for ramadan.
damn I knew it xD
You are a beautiful human being
I am new to the game and i suck.
Last game i got destroyed at 1650.
Didn't understand the new ottoman mechanics.
Thanks for this guide!
ottomans are not op, thats what happened in real life
I started a game as Moscow, surrounded Brandenburg in 1510 from every direction had 2k dev in 1480, new DLC is HUUUUUUUUUGE
fr
Ottomans literally die in every single game mid-late game due to new decadence mechanic so they are broken in the early game and collapsing in the late game. It actually made AI Ottomans worse and player Ottomans stronger
Which is a great change. I don't wanna fight Ottomans every single campaign.
I personally love how the Europa Universalis developers finally found a nation to add the Command's Slave State mechanic from base game Anbennar Universalis 4.
Are they the same as Eyalets?
played the ottomans yesterday, somehow when I managed to annex all of Portugal while they still had some south american provinces and few in north Africa they formed Brazil + France and Hanover had same dynasty with me.... I just dont know how to react to this new patch🤣🤣🤣
What in the actual f
I love how ludi becomes blood thirsty as soon as he got the claims it just perfect dude. 😂😂😂😂
I got the achievement to have roman borders by 1500 at 1479 lol. I thought it would had been a challenge. Especially considering it was my first attempt. Otto's are just so OP.
exactly bro its ridiculous xD
I like the Sugla and Selanik forts until the Knights are gone to keep devastation low and let the prosperity grow.
Ludi keep up the amazing job! Your videos always brighten my day as i am as well a masochist that likes to inflict pain upon himself while watching the map change color. But on a serious note i love your humor and all your videos. Love you lubi my #1 romanian.
8:31 In Urdu we actually say ramzan instead of Ramadan so i found that joke quite funny,
Thanks ludi❤
im pretty sure that turks also say ramazan. must be a turkic thing
@@afridge8608 thats true. It’s called ramazan in turkish.
@@afridge8608oh cool there are many turkic words in urdu
5:24
I'm Turkish and the c in Turkish is always pronounced like a soft g in English (for example: age, Egypt, etc.). The way you pronounced it, we would write that as ç.
So it's "Djandar" and "Selanidj"? Interesting I'll try to remember that ^^
@@krankarvolund7771 If you are referring to Thesalloniki, it is more like Selanick.
Chandar
There is a diary of a janissary who wrote about the fall of constantinople. The main author is said to be konstantin from ostrowitza, a serbian janissary of the Ottoman army
Ludi: "I might do a second part if we get 5k likes in the 1st week"
gets 5.5k likes in the 1st 8 hrs
I believe they changed the jannisary colour because the new samurai unit is red
i think its important to note that eyalets can be separate peaced by ur ennemies in war which make them way less useful than regular vassals
well that's a huge nerf indeed, the only thing i ever find myself doing with vassals is using their lands and units as a distraction, if theu can seperate peace they no different than allies even less since u can ally stronger nations and let them do the heavy lifting
Janissaries weren't a separate elite army rather they were a part of Ottoman standing army which was called Kapıkulu army. It had Janissary corps (Infantry division), Kapıkulu cavalry division, topçu ocağı (artilery division), cebeci ocağı (supply division), even lağımcılar (drillers) had their own division even if they only supposed to dig tunnels under enemy fortifications. That's why Ottoman standing army was so successful against European armies as it had unmatched organization and discipline in it's time. Ottoman also had timar holder army which was more like European levy system that land owners would cover needs of some soldiers. They would act like local force in peace and would be levied during war. And ofc because Turks were nomadic people vast majority of timar soldiers were light cavalry called Sipahi. For example in 1475 there were 6,000 Janissaries and 40,000 Sipahis in Ottoman army. And because vast majority of Ottoman foot soldiers were from infantry division, Janissaries they played important part in literally all sieges and gained huge political power in time. Still they were greatly outnumbered and couldn't control Ottoman politics much for centuries until their numbers kept increasing and increasing. First their children were allowed to join the corps. Then Muslim children mostly orphans, not long after it completely became voluntary and devshirme system got abolished. In 17-18th century the corps had hundreds of thousands members and the worst part most of them weren't even soldiers rather merchants etc! Ofc Janissaries who joined wars were getting paid way more but still Ottoman was paying all Janissary members and emptying it's treasure. To battle this Ottoman reduced their peace time salary insanely and increased their war time salary and share from the loot, but as a result Janissaries became quite war-like and rebelled several times because there was too long peace period lol..
I really want to see a video about the ottoman disaster after you hit 100 decadence
As long as AI Otto is at it is so far in this patch I love these changes for Ottos
They are very weak at the begining compared to previous DLC, I didn't understand why but it seems the AI rush for mil Idea and are behind in the mil tech, which almost never happened before. Also their estates were all disloyal when I tag switch. I never seen them so weak, I played Venice and manage to beat them so easily, it was a piece of cake. Then I still had enough manpower to get almost all coastal province from the Mamluk, and they were much stronger than the Ottomans. AI is weak for the Ottoman, France and Brandenburg seems strong though, and Muscovy also. The only weak link seems to be the Ottoman as far as I can tell. Ludi didn't get lucky in his Castille video, the Ottomans probably get beaten by Venice, Poland or Mamluk half the time in this patch.
@@lorristurpinAstrologie that is fine by me, because there are like 15-20 achievements that needs to basicaly fight the Ottomans, so this is a win for me :)
AI Ottos actually seem a lot weaker to me in this patch. But from a player perspective, they are insanely OP
your little mentions to the history was quite good ty funny vid
they can debuff ottomans by keeping a historical timelimits of when u can form an eyalat of a particular area like egypt has timelock of 1518 ig
Ludi, you should make a guide video for handling decadence mechanics and how to switch technology to Western.
Wouldn't picking the City of Faiths option for Jerusalem event be better? It gives 3 times more development and 5% idea cost reduction until the end of game. Plus Mehmed II could benefit more from the extra dip pip as opposed to 100 adm points.
Totally. Plus a level of monument is like 1k gold, with Ottomans it's basically nothing XD
@@krankarvolund7771 Exactly lol, they basically print money
Of course, and the monument isn't even that good
When I saw those 4 cannons on day one my jaw dropped!
A Core Eyalet will Not Join any overlord wars; neither offensive nor defensive. It can be annexed like a normal vassal tho
You can change a Core Eyalet to an Eyalet by a diplomatic action; ‘Grant Autonomy to Core Eyalet’ in the category of Influence Actions.
An Eyalet can be called to war after Currying Favors enough with it and calling it to war via a diplomatic action in the the category of Influence Actions again. It cannot be annexed until it is changed to A Core Eyalet via a diplomatic action; ‘Reign in Eyalet’ in the the category of Influence Actions.
And lastly, A VASSAL can be turned into An Eyalet via a diplomatic action; ‘Promote to Eyalet’ in the the category of Influence Actions.
Thank you for the video! I dont think the ottomans can get anymore the caliphate bonuses since their tier 1 reform but waiting to see your part 2. 😁
This is such a great update! The new updates to all of these countries seem to had been created for maximum amounts of fun. I have played a France campaign, and it was so much harder but so much better. I am definitely doing an ottoman campaign.
Is France weaker now? I remember 99% of my games they were always the 2 strongest country in Europe ( Ottomans 1 and Commonwealth 3)
@@viniciusyugulis7278 No, they are still just as strong the only thing that has changed is that they have more challenges from their new mission tree and stuff like that.
Honestly Decadence is totally useless as long as you're in the Age of Discovery thanks to the Rise of Ottomans modifier of -1 per month ^^
It's after that it starts to become risky, which is accurate of course XD
Great video as always!!
Actually Ramazan and Ramadan is the same thing. When it is called Ramadan in Arabic, there is a light letter z. That's why we write it as Ramazan in Turkish.
I think its so cool to see the Battle of Varna event, after you just made a video about it a few weeks ago.
2:28 Ludi's trying to stay halal because now is ramadan Mubarak😂😂
16:40 he conquered otranto
Ludi can you make a video about how to survive Ottoman Decadence? Disaster destroyed me I couldn't even finished one of them.
Seriously enjoyed it Lubi ! After a while they actually made something thats is quite enjoyable to play !
Love this dlc hope middle east with Mamluks and Georgia is next
23:30 "muscovy is defending wallachia because theyre the defender"
as muscovy is allied to wallachia
2:26 Double laughing resistance stackwipe. You could've scornifully insulted a rival in the start of the game to gain big pp to get +1 mana
thank god! I couldnt understand half of what Zwellikk was saying in his 1.35 ottoman video.
I can DEFINITELY understand you a bit more than half of the time so were good-to-goskies
I feel like it's just every major country got a huge mission tree that makes it much easier for a player to get the snowball going super early
Ludi probably knows most janissaries were castrated so basically he's saying subscribe or.. uh.. ouch
well yes but ok Kappa
Janissaries were not castrated . They would retire after the age of 40 and be allowed to marry and have children
As Naples w/Austria and Hungary fighting Ottomans they had 20k stack with no cannons against our 40k with some cannons they just stomped our larger army. Both Ottomans and French have been so annoying to deal with in this update.
I like how they just sell you overpowered DLC to make the game easier at exorbitant prices. Classic Paradox.
7:49 - I was rather confused. I paused the screen to see what were the benefits of assigning a Pasha and I could not really figure out why you were doing that. Unpausing made it all clear very soon 😅
Still haven’t left my house! Are those janissary rebels extremely powerful like they are in that one mod? They would absolutely destroy my armies if I wasn’t reinforcing them.
20:38 Ataturk Is Here! :)
Hey man, i know it's small, but albania, i think, got a new gov reform. It would be nice if you took a look at it 👍
Bro I am Turkish. I literally can't be a janissary.
8:30 ludi ramazan is how you say ramadan in turkey they are the same words
Thank u for this Ramadan gift Ludi
Ur a true browski :)
Core eyalets cannot be called into wars, so it makes sense to only reign them in when planning to annex. Regular eyalets count only their own military strength for liberty desire as well.
Those free early cannons spawning before anyone is even close to getting the tech for it makes the early push so ridiculous
08:30 actually in turkish ramadan means ramazan
Can you do a guide on how to deal with the internal struggle missions/disaster? It's a beast
Ramazan actually means ramadan in Turkish, so it wasn't just a ryhme
Janissary joke is top-notch👌
eu4 is finally fun, not just frustrating good move from paradox
8:25 Ramazan actually means Ramadan in Turkish so... it doesn't only rhyme I guess.
Saw ottomans thrust into Austria in the 1500 in my first play through in this patch god
24:45 Mehmed II had a son named Cem, so Cemery would be a great name 😂
mamluk mission is actually a fact. ottos annex them in 1 year with 1 war. I wouldn't say it's broken but maybe there could be some time or year limit to start it.
actually, strongest son of mehmet the second was Cem (or jem), janissary didn't want someone like his father and opted and supported the bayezıd who had a more peaceful policy. And Cem escaped to west and died as a captive
Instructions unclear. 140k strong coalition was formed against me
Now make a video about how to handle Decadence and finish "New Dawn" mission as an Ottoman
The new achievement for ottoman is 1500,own or eyelet province needed to form roman empire. Litterly harder than true hier of timurid
Before this patch i used to choose offensive+espionage+innovative. By 1500 i could have over 90% siege ability. 3lvl forts could fall within days
This DLC is shit it destroys all the game balance with overpowered mission trees what is the point of playing the nations that got an update when playing them feels like playing recruit difficulty holy shit paradox pls keep in mind the game balance when making new mechanics and mission trees not for me
Agreed paradox has totally overlooked the game balance with this dlc
+1
I don't think any nation is more powerful than like Sweden was the last update
You can contunie playing in 1.34 I had a campaign left in there so I am contuniung from 1.34 for now.
Fun fact, Qara koyunlu means "black sheep"
Ak koyunlu means "white sheep" in Turkish language
Hi ! Just wanna say you're the best :D never regrets watching your vids
08:31 Ramadan and Ramazan rhymes yeah, cuz they are the same words. Turks use the Z letter instead of the D letter for some Arabic words. Awesome video by the way.
Safe guard in my run was bad; it popped up more than 20 time
26:18 LINUS SUCCESSION LET'S GO!
Lately I was witness of Ottoplosion - rebels literally rip apart great nation (off course with help of neighbors) but boy, it was so dope - one mistake and literally almost game over.
the fact that Ramazan is turkish ramadan is makes that more funny 8.00
I haven't finished the video yet, but have you seen the event that can make Mehmed Catholic? Catholic Ottomans actually sounds like a fun playthrough.
13:38 Meanwhile, AI Ottoman would have sieged Haleb in 3 days, and carpet sieged the entirety of Mamluks in under a month... The AI cheats, man!
Apparently Australian scientists recently came up with a theory that makes time travel possible. (According to a click bait article I only read the title of.
Ludi is going to use this revolutionary new discovery to go back and call some now presumably very confused Mamluks 'sniveling pussies' and then immediately come back without explanation or attempt to use a language they would understand.
NOTICE: When you declare war on the Mamluks you HAVE to use the conquest war goal. Any other war goal will not allow you to trigger the event. I notice in the video you selected it for seemingly no reason but that is very important to trigger these events you must be using that war goal. I tried it with a reconquest wargoal and wasted years on my game.
Ludi actually your joke was right ramazan ramadan same thing in turkish it is ramazan and ramazan is can be used as a name soo the ramazan beylik comes from someone named or surnamed ramazan as well as dulkadir but difference is dulkadir is actually widow kadir and it can be called dulkadiroğulları meanind widow kadirs sons
I think the byzantines should get the urban event first, and If they reject, the Ottomans got it, id the byzantines accept the ottomans don't get it
Since thats what historically happened
I noticed Tlemcen is green now and Portugal is blue.
8:33 ramazan is turkish for ramadan so your joke made more sense than you thought lol
Well Ramazan rhymes with Ramadan because it is how you say Ramadan in Turkish, so those two words are exactly the same thing. Ramazan and Dulkadir are named after their founding fathers. Ramazanoğulları (Sons of Ramazan) and Dulkadiroğulları (Sons of Dulkadir). In addition although your pronounciation of Candar is way better than other content creators it's still lacking a bit. "C" in the beginning is not pronounced like "CH" but rather "J". Like when you say James. So you can read it as "Jandar". It would be the correct way of saying it.
F i didnt go Devshirme system cause i had 99% janissary influence, wish i watched your vid before xd
The Janissaries may have been coloured green because green was the colour of the Rumelia Eyelet which was in Europe and contained the Christian communities who sons would become the Janissaries.
Sublime Porte means in Turkish (actually it's Arabic, whatever) Bab-ı Ali. Bcs the building itself hosted the government. When the Ottomans called Bab-ı Ali they meant the central government
Paradox trying to not make overpowerd nations.
Challenge impossible
Ramadan and ramazan is actually the same thing. We read the arabic letter ض in turkish as z. So ramazan and ramadan does not only simply rhyme😂