This Test Proves the Flextail Zero Pump Is NOT the Best 😱

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  • Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
  • People are loving the Flextail Zero Pump, but what about the other tiny backpacking air pumps? Exped Widget, Haven PowerPump, Flextail Tiny Pump X, AeroGoGo GIGA Pump 4.0, Flextail Tiny Pump 2X, Hengduan Mini Pump, Therm-a-Rest NeoAir Micro Pump, Evorux, Aksoul Elite, Capnew. I test 11 different air pumps side-by-side to find out which ones perform the best for airing up a sleeping pad.
    In this video, I compare features, size, weight, noise, how long it takes to pump up a sleeping pad, battery capacity, how many inflations you get per charge, how long it takes to charge the battery, and durability for when you drop it on a rock or get it wet. I’ll rank each one so you have more information to help decide which one suits you best.
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  • @outdoorempirecom
    @outdoorempirecom  4 місяці тому +1

    What gear should I test next? Comment below. 👇

    • @cue881-yo7kz
      @cue881-yo7kz 3 місяці тому

      I think people would benefit from a review of the FEMA cots they sell at Sportsman's warehouse. It would save people a lot of money. I think more people would buy them if they realized how good of a deal they are.

    • @theyetti8811
      @theyetti8811 3 місяці тому

      Pee rags

    • @professormarceloricci
      @professormarceloricci 2 місяці тому +1

      Budget lightweight sleeping pads?

    • @rskite
      @rskite 2 місяці тому

      I am curious. If you are car camping and have a wood stove. Would it do a better job of heating the tent if it were on fire bricks rather than on the feet? Would lower to the ground increase the heat in the tent?

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  2 місяці тому

      @@rskite I don't think so, or at least don't think it would be a noticeable difference. But would be interesting to find out for sure.

  • @barbarab202
    @barbarab202 4 дні тому +2

    Super helpful video and immediately subscribed for the humor in the presentation. Now gonna binge watch this channel.

  • @gregjones8073
    @gregjones8073 День тому

    Excellent thorough review. Thanks for posting.

  • @bobwire9214
    @bobwire9214 3 місяці тому +3

    That is a very interesting review, subbed to see more gear comparisons, thank you.

  • @9thHouseSun
    @9thHouseSun 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for this comprehensive assessment! Just what I needed to know!❤

  • @elisebrown5157
    @elisebrown5157 3 місяці тому +8

    Wow! You put a lot of time and work into this review, and I certainly appreciate it. I'd love to see you test portable backpacking solar panels (specifically the kind that attach to a portable battery bank), or chemlights (glow sticks) for luminosity and duration. I'd also really appreciate a small EDC style flashlight comparison that not only compares lumens, but how far the light throws (maybe headlamps as well). That is - if you haven't done any of these already. I'm off to check your other videos right now.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  3 місяці тому +3

      Haven't done those, but I love those ideas. Thanks for taking the time to comment and share. Cheers.

  • @JahBlessd
    @JahBlessd 3 місяці тому +2

    First time viewer and you did a great job. Thanks

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  2 місяці тому

      Awesome! Thank you! Appreciate you stopping by and commenting.

  • @cocoblue012
    @cocoblue012 3 місяці тому +21

    Have been rabbit holing reviews , this is by far the most comprehensive comparison I have seen and entertaining along the way. For the Flex zero imo, more weight should be put on it not fully inflating the mattress, that is its one job, I am not spending 40+ dollars to have to still blow my hot wet breathe into a mattress, it is odd that so many reviewers think a pump not actually fully inflating a pad is ok, it's to bad because its the only one that seems not to have a jarring high pitch sound.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  3 місяці тому +3

      Wow, thank you! Indeed the Zero Pump is great for weight but far from the best at inflating a sleeping pad. You might not notice that if you don't compare it directly to the alternative.

    • @borobdin
      @borobdin Місяць тому +3

      It fully inflates to the level I like my pad to be. I'm a side sleeper, so I like it to be slightly soft so my shoulder can push into the pad a bit. It's definitely inflated enough that I am not touching the ground through the pad. When I use the TinyPumpX, I end up tapping the valve a couple times to let out a bit of air to soften the pad, so the Zero is definitely a bit less powerful. Neither pump can get my pad super super firm. If that's what you want, I can get it very firm using a pump sack while also not needing to fill it with hot wet breath.

    • @DiabloOutdoors
      @DiabloOutdoors 12 годин тому

      Exact! And that's why when he said "The Zero is still a good choice" was wrong, very wrong. Also, the battery capacity of the 2X and X where off by a lot!

  • @twloughlin
    @twloughlin 3 місяці тому +36

    Truthfully, I'm pretty sure that every piece of outdoor gear in existence has been tested by someone somewhere on UA-cam. So my vote is - test whatever interests YOU.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  3 місяці тому +2

      I like what you're saying, my friend. Thank you.

    • @rgrmaddog
      @rgrmaddog 2 місяці тому

      It is a crowded space, but I like your style OE and will keep watching.

  • @alexlawsontas
    @alexlawsontas 16 днів тому

    Great thorough review!

  • @francoispaquin9996
    @francoispaquin9996 12 днів тому +1

    This is a great video to compare. it's very useful. Thanks!

  • @user-ul5yu5hk9k
    @user-ul5yu5hk9k 3 місяці тому +2

    Excellent review

  • @monsierlemaire8282
    @monsierlemaire8282 Місяць тому

    very comprehensive! Thank you for the detailed analysis of these pumps.

  • @cue881-yo7kz
    @cue881-yo7kz 3 місяці тому +8

    I've had a cheap x tail, w/o the light, for a couple of years and it has never failed me. I like the fact they gave me a bag to keep the nozzles contained.

  • @scottcerreta1724
    @scottcerreta1724 2 місяці тому +2

    great review and funny as hell. I actually watched the whole thing because it was so entertaining. Thanks!

  • @shaggyterrell8460
    @shaggyterrell8460 2 місяці тому +3

    Great comparison! I have a few pumps but the Zero is my favorite. I have a bad back and the fact that the zero stays attached to my pad without me having to bend down and hold it there makes it a clear winner for me. It’s also smaller, lighter and no lights unlike like my other pumps, which I never use anyways.

  • @ezequielraymonda
    @ezequielraymonda 22 дні тому +1

    Great review! I have the Exorux and I love it. Great battery and the fact that is solar saved me once. Really useful as a power bank as well!

  • @kevinboyer6249
    @kevinboyer6249 Місяць тому +1

    I've been going round, and round on which pump to buy for my iKamper RTT air mattress. Your video helped me come to a quick decision. I was leaning heavily towards the Fkextail Zero, but not anymore. Flextail Tiny Pump 2 takes the win. Watched the entire video as well. Very informative in a quirky, humorous fashion that I greatly appreciated.

  • @Wild.cat.adventures
    @Wild.cat.adventures 2 місяці тому +1

    Fun and informative review thanks 👍

  • @pimacanyon6208
    @pimacanyon6208 Місяць тому +1

    wow. very thorough testing. many thanks!

  • @dwebberplank
    @dwebberplank 29 днів тому +1

    First time experiencing your reviews. Lot of fun and made it the whole way through. Tha ks for the humor AND thoughtful analytics. Consider backbacking solar panels please.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  27 днів тому

      Thanks for the visit and the comment, much appreciated! Noted on the solar panels, that would be fun.

  • @jasonmcochran
    @jasonmcochran Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for the comprehensive review!

  • @James-ke5sx
    @James-ke5sx 3 місяці тому +4

    Wow, that was a very thorough review. Besides the money you invested it must have taken you quite a while to do this review, you deserve a sub. I bought the Flextail 2x. I was not interested in the newer, smaller model because it does not have the features of the 2X. If you have a hard time screwing the cap on the new flextail maybe you could put some Vaseline on the screw threads or silicone. Or if you have Teflon tape, which you probably do because you seem to be a handyman like me. You could put one wrap of Teflon tape around the threads as a lubricant. Cheers from Canada.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  3 місяці тому +2

      Thanks a million for the sub and the compliment, much appreciated! And great idea to use Teflon tape for the threads, I'll give that a whirl.

  • @CampWithMatt
    @CampWithMatt Місяць тому +1

    Absolutely loved this video, very amusing commentary. And, of course, useful to justify my previously made decision (Ft X2)

  • @robertarnobit5357
    @robertarnobit5357 Місяць тому +2

    Very good video, thank you 👍 loved the comparisons too❤

  • @danbump1616
    @danbump1616 26 днів тому +1

    What an awesome review, thanks! Very well done and comprehensive. I would say at least as good as a 4th grader could do!

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  24 дні тому

      I'm flattered. And I believe my late Fourth grade teacher would be as well.

  • @stargeezer8427
    @stargeezer8427 Місяць тому +1

    I've been looking at these pumps, wanting one to keep in a 27' cruiser, and I'll be getting the Exorux on your recommendation. Thanks!

  • @jameskeith753
    @jameskeith753 3 місяці тому +3

    thanks for the info very good info.. I ordered the flex tail and I am anxious to see if it will inflate my air mattress.

  • @davidhawkins847
    @davidhawkins847 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for the review. I hadn't known that there were micro sized air pumps these days until I was seeing the reviews on that new Flextail. Given that I'm usually inflating two peoples pads when camping I thought something like it would be nice. Now having seen the selection available I may have to reconsider the model and features. That X2 and clone seem like a better fit considering they can also be used as a camp light, versus a single use item, for the size and price. Given all the electronics we deal with these days, keeping one of these pumps charged on a long trip wouldn't be difficult.
    I suspect the deflation mode on these may actually be kind of important since the biggest problem I have with my mat is rolling it up to put away while fighting to get the remaining air out so it packs down to its compact size. Something that is a little hard to do inside a 1-man tent.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  2 місяці тому +1

      Good analysis. I should do a deflation test. I had planned on it, but the video was already pretty long so I skipped it. Next time!

  • @matthewsinger
    @matthewsinger 3 місяці тому +3

    I got lucky and ordered my Pump Zero when the promotion price was still $36. So far I find it worth the price. It pumps up my NeoAir Xtherm and my Q-core SLX with more than enough pressure. Can't beat the size and weight.

  • @wobblysauce
    @wobblysauce 2 місяці тому +2

    Airflow is different to also providing pressure, but the time the Zero provides compared to the 'others' is considerable.
    That and it does the bulk of the work and a breath or 2 is not much to add.
    Though I use it for deflation as I pack my tent away, late sleeper getting that little bit extra in.

  • @cyphre
    @cyphre 3 місяці тому +1

    Great comparison. Got some options out there!
    I have seen 'A' Thermarest airpump that seemed to work incredibly well (compared to the other Flextail pumps at the time), but maybe it was a different model.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  3 місяці тому

      Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!

  • @WayneTheSeine
    @WayneTheSeine 12 днів тому +1

    Great comparison.

  • @Ray_Here
    @Ray_Here 2 місяці тому +1

    Good review and enjoyable!

  • @BigDawgCAM
    @BigDawgCAM 2 місяці тому +3

    The Flextailgear MP2 Pro was 100% the way to go for me. Light and pump of course, but serves as a back-up battery bank if I need it since I only go on 2-3 day trips

  • @rskite
    @rskite 2 місяці тому +2

    Bought the Exo. Great review - Works great

  • @taivec
    @taivec 2 місяці тому +1

    I use my zero pump with exped synmat 9 lw and no need for extra breath power. But it is weaker and slower, compared to larger noname pump. Also no problem with the threads on cap. Still, it is very good video and i loved many different steps of testing. Thank You!

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for sharing and I'm glad to hear you haven't had any issues with the threads on the cap.

  • @neonsamurai1348
    @neonsamurai1348 2 місяці тому +8

    I have to say, there was pretty much one reason why I got the Flextail Zero. I can easily replace the battery (I refuse to buy products with built in batteries, as they typically end up in landfill in a few years). Plus it does not have any other built in stuff I don't want (like a lantern/flashlight), and it is really small.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  Місяць тому +1

      All good points and I definitely see the appeal. I like the replaceable idea as well and am just fine without the extra features. I was just a bit disappointed that it lacked pressure.

    • @hoffmannbeck
      @hoffmannbeck Місяць тому +1

      Same for me and we can replace the original battery with a bigger one which will last for more time. And it's pretty small and lightweight. This counts more points to me than fills the air mattress faster. I have more powerfull pumps but zero is my fav to be with me all the time

    • @corchef007
      @corchef007 Місяць тому

      They will come out with another Zero pump with more pressure.
      The Zero pump 2.0. It may be better to get the Tiny pump 2 or wait until the 2.0 comes out...but if it is 5k pressure, I don't know. That's the pressure of the of the Tiny pump 2..

  • @jovanleon7
    @jovanleon7 3 місяці тому +2

    Haven is the clear winner for me. Size is still compact but it's the most powerful and most long lasting. Great review.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  3 місяці тому

      I got lucky when that was the first one I ever bought before I ever thought about doing this video.

    • @jovanleon7
      @jovanleon7 3 місяці тому

      @@outdoorempirecom wow. It's good being lucky. May your luck continues with the channel.

    • @andressa16
      @andressa16 2 місяці тому +1

      That's what I also thought!! Still, ranked 2nd but it wasn't mentioned in the overall final review. So I came to the comments and found this. Why wasn't it highlighted and or recommended?

  • @chemawatersa377
    @chemawatersa377 Місяць тому

    Wow, nice test. Wish more product could be reviewed like this.

  • @winc06
    @winc06 3 місяці тому +3

    Thanks for saving me from the Thermarest which is the only one handled by REI.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  3 місяці тому +1

      They sell the Exped too, but maybe only online.

  • @flutingaround
    @flutingaround 3 місяці тому +3

    i can't believe you dropped those from the roof 😂

  • @carolynhelm1392
    @carolynhelm1392 Місяць тому +1

    Great details

  • @faithintouch6426
    @faithintouch6426 3 місяці тому +2

    I have not checked to see if you have tested the inflatable tents yet, but I woild love to see how they rate. Thanks for the reviews on camping gear. I find myself checking Ur recommemdations before buying a new item. Plz link the video if you have tested the inflatable tents (canvas ones. l. appreciate how dedicated you are to the cause of camping, family and community.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you very much for the support! I haven't done anything on inflatable tents yet. I'd like to, but it'll take some time to research what's decent and gather up a bunch of tents.

  • @yuriklaver4639
    @yuriklaver4639 4 дні тому

    Thanks!

  • @gerrygadget
    @gerrygadget 2 місяці тому +5

    Surprised the Haven didn't get a shoutout. A few less features than Exorux, but less cost and much smaller/lighter (good features to have!) for as good or better performance. At least according to your spreadsheet, quite good bang for the buck. You didn't say much about it so curious why it wasn't recommended.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  2 місяці тому +2

      Indeed, the Haven deserves a shoutout. It's a good combo of battery capacity and air pressure. A bit bulkier than others for backpacking, but it doubles as a battery bank which is nice. I wouldn't not recommend it, just didn't end up calling out every option in the conclusion for sake of time and redundancy. It's actually the first one I got and I've been using it for a couple years. Great option.

  • @ManivanAdventures
    @ManivanAdventures 8 днів тому +1

    The Zero Pump will inflate some pads fully. I have both the REI Helix and a Nemo Tensor and it doesn’t have any issue with the Tensor, but struggles with the Helix. Regardless, it is still my favorite pump even if I have to add an extra breath at the end. Great comparison! 🤙🏼

  • @user-xz4og4xo3j
    @user-xz4og4xo3j Місяць тому +1

    Cool never knew this form factor existed.

  • @kristymoore7052
    @kristymoore7052 2 місяці тому +1

    I have a thermorest mini, because that’s what was available besides a pump sack. Also have the huge Exped pump for car camping. Thermosrest pimp Didn’t do me too wrong, but I didn’t care for it needing batteries. Now I have 3 versions of the flex tail including the latest. All pumps I have require self inflating at the end.

  • @tdata545
    @tdata545 3 місяці тому +5

    I love flextail products. A little modding of one of their pumps, I'd have to look it up, and it makes for a decent and cheap canned air alternative. Next to say a MINI LEAFBLOWER. It was the Tiny pump x. I think I took a 1/4in ID vinyl tubing cut it to about an inch, then cut off the corner of it so it formed around the curve of the pump, and jammed a 3/8in ID hard tubing about 2-3in jammed it inside the vinyl flex tubing, which grips it at about 1/2in to 3/4in and stays on just fine. YAY FRICTION, and is a decent duster.
    Weirdly the one feature you didn't test, deflation. Since most of those also advertise deflation. Especially the Flextails.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  3 місяці тому +3

      That's a great hack, nice! And yes, I planned on doing deflation, but was concerned about how long the video would get and decided that's a feature most people probably don't use so if I was gonna skip one, it'd be the one to skip. I also assume the deflation performance would correspond pretty closely to inflation. But alas, point taken. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Cheers.

  • @RoadTripK
    @RoadTripK 3 місяці тому +2

    thank you for confirming the flextail zero can't quite fill the pads. I thought it was just me!

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  3 місяці тому +2

      It's a cool little gadget, but my butt would be in contact with the ground if I didn't add a couple more breaths of air into the pad after the Zero Pump is done.

    • @RoadTripK
      @RoadTripK 3 місяці тому +3

      @@outdoorempirecom I like mine firm too. Still, I like the design and the battery more than the others. Might keep it and just deal with topping off the fill.

    • @hmartinlb
      @hmartinlb 2 місяці тому

      There was only one other youtube review that mentioned that. All the rest didn't dare criticise a product they received for review or didn't notice. Says a lot about them either way.

  • @lookoutlinn
    @lookoutlinn 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank you,

  • @yourikurkiewicz9808
    @yourikurkiewicz9808 Місяць тому

    Hi @OutdoorEmpire, thanks for this perfect overview, I do have 1 question though, would you also recommend these pumps (after seeing your review I’m thinking of buying the Flextail Tiny Pump 2x) but I would want to use it for a bigger 2 person inflatable mattress, should I look into the other flextail pumps that are advertised for the mattresses, or the pumps for sleeping pads will do the job? 🙏

    • @pantherpaws1077
      @pantherpaws1077 Місяць тому

      I have the Tiny Pump 2x and it can inflate the thick 2 person mattresses surprisingly well.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  27 днів тому

      I think the Tiny Pump 2X would do the job on a bigger mattress, it would just take longer and wouldn't do it more than a couple times probably. I assume you'd be car camping in that scenario, in which case I'd go with something like that Exorux that has larger battery and capacity.

  • @MiaChen1030
    @MiaChen1030 Місяць тому

    Very useful video

  • @davefrancis7213
    @davefrancis7213 3 місяці тому +1

    Iv got a cheap aksoul one and it’s spot on. Tested it on a yawn air bed and an inflatable double sofa bed. Hardly used any battery

  • @paulm4113
    @paulm4113 2 місяці тому +5

    Apply a little lubricant like silicon grease to the threads of the Fkextail Zero pump battery compartment. Takes care of the rough machining.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  2 місяці тому

      Good idea, thanks!

    • @WayneTheSeine
      @WayneTheSeine 12 днів тому

      NAPA has a great synthetic grease called Sil-Glide...great stuff. I use it on almost everything.

  • @BackcountryPilgrim
    @BackcountryPilgrim 2 місяці тому +1

    Well done!

  • @joemamamia1751
    @joemamamia1751 3 місяці тому +2

    I would love a test on the new Winnerwell Iron camping cooker stove. There's a few options like ThousWind Firedance oil lamp, and one I found on amazon... Personally, I think the winnerwell has a better build as its a cast iron vs a multi-piece base for the fuel, but I imagine they all provide the same result when it comes to burning/heat production... Anyways, would be a cool lil stove for car camping.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  3 місяці тому +1

      Oh yeah! That would be interesting. Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @joemamamia1751
      @joemamamia1751 3 місяці тому

      @@outdoorempirecom Yeah, when I saw them become available, I thought it would be interesting to use the griddle plate and the heat-powered stove fan on top to better warm an area. Granted there will be moisture produced from the fuel and you'll need to ensure proper ventilation... But if this lil ditty can grill a stake I figure worth seeing if it can produce as much heat as a small oil stove?!

  • @tommyg5095
    @tommyg5095 2 місяці тому +2

    One of the most dramatic tests ( at 17:10 ) was the " Amazon Prime BOX DUMP "... This accurately depicts how FedEx delivers my packages, and associated damages...

  • @username-mc7jw
    @username-mc7jw Місяць тому +1

    Finally!!! Someone dares to say it. Anyone interested in the Zero Pump would be interested for one reason - weight! From my perspective, I am concerned about how much weight a pump adds to my backpack as well, so I can instantly eliminate all of the larger pumps from my available choices. That basically leaves me with the Flextail lineup of pumps.
    I'm a backpacker. Weight and final pressure are really all that matter to me. While the Flextail Zero is the smallest and lightest pump available, it does not output enough pressure to adequately inflate a sleeping pad. You'll be left with a squishy, half-full pad, and end up finishing the filling process using your lungs. That adds moisture to your $300 pad, and moisture inside a sleeping pad is bad! I started out with the Tiny Pump X, which worked well, and barely weighed more than the inflation sack that came with my sleeping pad. The thing I didn't like about the X was the way the attachments fit on the offset output port. Attachments just weren't very secure, and often fell off. Along came the 2X, which resolved the attachment issues and gave me even more inflation pressure than the X.

  • @sleddy01
    @sleddy01 2 місяці тому +1

    I don't even know why I watched this but looks like the Haven to me. I like the light headedness of blowing it up the old fashioned way.

  • @BrokenBackMountains
    @BrokenBackMountains 2 місяці тому +1

    I have an early flextail with no light. It only does one thing.
    I went back to a pump sack. It is lighter and also keeps stuff dry. I don't mind actual physical exertion at the end of the day.

  • @ike8236
    @ike8236 3 місяці тому +6

    I'll stick to an inflation bag that doubles as a dry sack just incase anyone wanted to know my thoughts 😄

  • @norwescan
    @norwescan Місяць тому +1

    Great video. How to measure more accurately, Air Velocity measurement does not reflect CFM. I would measure it in a duct with taped seal between pump output to the duct.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  Місяць тому +2

      Good point. I thought a bit about how to get a better measurement, but then I moved on with my life haha. But that is a great idea.

  • @yvan2563
    @yvan2563 2 місяці тому +2

    FIY, since the Flextail Zero uses CR123-sized batteries, you can either bring spares or buy better batteries. He mentions 650mAh but Nitecore has two rechargeable models that are 950mAh, one of them has a built-in USB-C charging port.

  • @ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING
    @ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING 2 місяці тому +1

    Well done! Crow

  • @martinextejt3453
    @martinextejt3453 2 місяці тому +3

    Practical testing beyond the 3rd grade. Thanks!

  • @deliciousfewd
    @deliciousfewd 3 місяці тому +3

    It's like Project Farm but funnier. Nice.

  • @TennesseeSlim
    @TennesseeSlim 3 місяці тому +1

    Max pump pro 2 is my choice ATM from flex tail.

  • @FluxApex
    @FluxApex 2 місяці тому +5

    The Zero Pump can also use CR123 batteries. Standard in many flashlights and hunting accessories. Makes it easier to plan for trips when my Headlamp, weapon light, flashlight, range finder, and Zero pump all use CR123 batteries.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  2 місяці тому +1

      Great point, I can see that being a nice advantage for a lot of folks.

    • @MastaSquidge
      @MastaSquidge 2 місяці тому +1

      @@outdoorempirecom it is the primary advantage for me.

    • @charlesd3376
      @charlesd3376 2 місяці тому

      Yeah. Was wondering why he said cr123a is rechargeable. He took it straight from Amazon site. RCR123 being 3.7 volt rechargeable and cr123a is 3.0 volt disposable.

  • @KyleD237
    @KyleD237 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video

  • @renk5000
    @renk5000 2 місяці тому +2

    looking for both inflate/deflate. is the flextail zero pump the only one out all of these options?

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  2 місяці тому +4

      Nope, most of them do that. The Zero Pump, Tiny Pump 2X, Aerogogo Giga Pump, Exorux, Exped, Haven PowerPump, and I think even the Capnew will deflate as well.

    • @renk5000
      @renk5000 2 місяці тому

      @@outdoorempirecom sweet. thanks again. bought the Exorux and will test on my Inspired Overland air mattress. Used your link so again much appreciated.

  • @tallen3958
    @tallen3958 2 місяці тому +2

    I would like to know the pressure test. Ho much PSI does it out out before stopping. I want a small pump to use to inflate my pack pack flyfishing float tube. Without taking a K-pump. Anyone have suggestions.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  2 місяці тому

      Indeed that would be interesting. I thought of that but didn't have a way to test it. My gut says your best bet out of these would be the Exorux or maybe the Haven PowerPump.

    • @elirobillard3451
      @elirobillard3451 Місяць тому

      I strongly suspect you will never get the psi or duration you need from these to finish the job. A portable compressor that runs on a 12V auto socket takes ages and these don't have nearly that power. Personally I think the K-Pump is the best tool for the job, and it won't run out of juice when you need it most. Well, unless -you- run out of juice.

  • @BASEguy955
    @BASEguy955 3 місяці тому +3

    A good treat after an exciting day of adventure is a tasty beverage. How about testing liquor flasks used for camping and/or travel. Nothing beats decent bourbon when you're sitting around the campfire! 😎

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  3 місяці тому +1

      Great suggestion, but I'm the wrong guy for that.

    • @a.w.thompson4001
      @a.w.thompson4001 3 місяці тому +1

      I'm interested in flasks because they're often flatter and more reliable than a bottle. Good for carrying water in one's slim bag/briefcase.
      But water containers Evernew, Hydrofoil, etc. would be a great topic for a comparison video, if you haven't already done it.

  • @zw7cj
    @zw7cj 2 місяці тому +1

    can these do a air tent for example...

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  Місяць тому +1

      Maybe that Haven or Exorux would, and some of the smaller ones might. But you risk running out of battery or burning up the motor in these little pumps. They're not really designed for that.

  • @masterdfxLV
    @masterdfxLV 3 місяці тому +3

    @theoutdoorempire there is one unusual use of that pump, just throw in the boot and leave it on for some min and boot will dry out mutch quicker 🙂

  • @kasperpaisa4245
    @kasperpaisa4245 2 місяці тому +2

    Flextail Zero best pump ever. Love it.

  • @KeirMurphy
    @KeirMurphy 3 місяці тому +3

    I get better results with an inflation sack. They're lighter and result in a better inflated mat. Takes a bit longer but the trade-off around weight and not bottoming out during the night seems worth it. Originally I wanted a pump with integrated light but I've also settled on a headlamp instead.

  • @ChrisSgaraglino
    @ChrisSgaraglino 2 місяці тому +1

    I love your videos, and the amount of detail in testing that you do for each product, including the graphs that’s a nice touch. With that said, the graphs are extremely difficult and confusing. For each test, you rearrange the order of the pumps so that the best result is always on the left, making it difficult to see a particular pump or follow a particular pump from test to test. It would be much easier follow the results if the order of the pumps were alphabetical. Then when you post the results, we can easily find where a particular pump is at all times and quickly see how it compares to the ones around it.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  2 місяці тому +3

      Great feedback, thank you. And I appreciate the support. My line of thought was to make it easy to see which products performed the best in each test so I lined them all up left to right like winners to losers for each. But I hear what you're saying. I plan to do a full write up about this on our website where I could post the data and charts making it easier to study for folks. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to share, I appreciate it.

  • @Funkteon
    @Funkteon 2 місяці тому +2

    Fun fact: 65db of the Capnew is 6x louder than 39db of the Therm-a-Rest. Which makes sense, given the fact the Therm-a-Rest does absolutely fk-all...

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  2 місяці тому

      That fact is indeed very fun. Thank you.

    • @Funkteon
      @Funkteon 2 місяці тому

      @@outdoorempirecom Another fun fact is that the 'Haven PowerPump' is just a very slightly modified 'Flextail Max Pump 2020 EPS' (Emergency Power Supply). In other words, these companies, as usual, are just getting Chinese factories to private label things they didn't even design, and then pass it off as their own... The Haven PowerPump even comes in EXACTLY the same packaging as the 'Flextail Max Pump 2020 EPS'.

  • @darylfortney8081
    @darylfortney8081 3 місяці тому +1

    Best for car camping is a KiCA Jetfan 2

  • @OnizukaGTO
    @OnizukaGTO 2 місяці тому +1

    the roof drop was unexpected. While you said you don't know what real world scenario this might simulate, let me help. How about slipping on a trail and falling on your backpack down a steep slope only to be saved by a couple of trees? Thanks to a couple of stuff breaking to cushion me, most of the stuff hanging on the outside got ripped off or got smashed. I'm pretty sure if they could survive a fall from your roof, most of them wuold be fine falling off the side of a small mounrtain. lol

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  2 місяці тому

      I knew it wasn't all for naught! What a story. Stay safe next time. lol

  • @wolfelau5602
    @wolfelau5602 18 днів тому

    I don’t think you were using the Thermarest properly. Namely because you didn’t use it on a Thermarest pad like it was designed. I use mine on every hike and have zero issues using it. It’s fast enough, quiet, and batteries last for longer than expected. And that’s using it to deflate as well.

  • @f.d.5952
    @f.d.5952 3 місяці тому +1

    Sub ❤ well done!

  • @DrJohn493
    @DrJohn493 Місяць тому +1

    I've tried two FT Zero pumps and both were junk. Both failed testing them at home. Returned them the same day they arrived. The body and cap are aluminum and the threads are rough, making it difficulty to screw the cap on and off. Also on both units, it was very difficult to find the sweet spot between the cap and body for the pump to turn on and off consistently and reliably. Not sure if it's bad contacts in the battery housing or a faulty switch but both Zero pumps had the same problem.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  27 днів тому

      Bummer dude. It's a neat little gadget but I'm not convinced it's the cat's meow.

  • @calvintraviserickson
    @calvintraviserickson 2 місяці тому +1

    Is that a subaru?

  • @TheInfidel_SlavaUA
    @TheInfidel_SlavaUA 3 місяці тому +1

    or use the integrated pillow pump of a reasonably price $30 mat thats not a overpriced piece of hypeware and will do the job unless you wanna go on himalaya expedition or hike in the arctic... noone doing FLIR tests on these kinda says it all.

  • @rondaashby2558
    @rondaashby2558 3 місяці тому +1

    How about testing some pumps that we use for car camping. These do not work at all for even a small single 3 inch and a half pad.

    • @rondaashby2558
      @rondaashby2558 3 місяці тому

      Most of us are shopping at Walmart

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  3 місяці тому +3

      I use these on a single 4 inch pad while car camping and they work great. I pump up 5 or more pads with them when camping with my family. Two thick 4 inch ones for my wife and me, then several thinner ones for the kids. Any of those pumps will do the trick. If you got one of those big queen sized 8 inch thick only air mattresses, that might be another story.

  • @VIOLAWilliams-cz7gc
    @VIOLAWilliams-cz7gc Місяць тому

    I found your video very interesting, I bought a tiny pump 2' x , we are going camping and my Granddaughter picked a camping suit with no hydro, she saw this tiny pump and told me it would blow up our sleep mattresses, double size , it last for 5 hours , but you tested how long it lasted , I don't think from what you showed it doesn't last 5 hours . I can't even figure out how to put the attachments go on . I think I need to tell my Granddaughter to call and see if we can get a spot with hydro, what do you think ?

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  Місяць тому +1

      Hmm, not sure I totally understand what the issue is. The light could likely go 5 hours, but the pump wouldn't run for 5 hours on its own. Flextail makes other bigger models that might though.

  • @mattlovelace91
    @mattlovelace91 21 день тому +1

    I am the heungduan

  • @jacobpetersen5662
    @jacobpetersen5662 2 місяці тому +3

    FlexTail is the BEST in companions to size and weight... and just use a damn 123 battery.... it'll run 3-4 times longer.

  • @andersnrregren9087
    @andersnrregren9087 2 місяці тому +1

    Try robens gear i love em but never see them in videos

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  2 місяці тому

      Interesting, hadn't heard of them. I'll look it up. Thanks.

  • @15halerobert
    @15halerobert 2 місяці тому +1

    Oh no my pump got kick off a cliff. How’d that happen. 😅

  • @stanbyme7874
    @stanbyme7874 3 місяці тому +2

    I have exped mattress. I just use the baffle pump that came with it. I looked at the pumps but $50? After I paid $300? Nope. Show me what ya got.

    • @OnizukaGTO
      @OnizukaGTO 2 місяці тому +1

      its for a certain use case, when you been hiking all day and you get to camp when it's dark. the last thing you want to do is spend time pumping/blowing your matress. it saves time and energy.

  • @zachansen8293
    @zachansen8293 3 місяці тому +1

    Why would you change from watt hours to amp hours when amp hours is the LESS useful term? All batteries should be measured in watt hours.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  2 місяці тому

      Watt hours for president!
      I just wanted to compare apples to apples.

  • @andersnrregren9087
    @andersnrregren9087 2 місяці тому +1

    My pump needs to be a light and powerbank, solar would be a plus.
    Hint hint robens conival 3i1.
    Edit nevermind the exorux is same as robens air pump

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  2 місяці тому

      Wow, just checked it out and it appears to be exactly like the Exorux in this video. I also saw the same one at Decathlon in France. I'm guessing all those brands just source that pump from the same manufacturer in China and make it different colors. Interesting.

    • @andersnrregren9087
      @andersnrregren9087 2 місяці тому

      @@outdoorempirecom but 20$ for exorux vs 60$ for my robens, so i should have look at your video befor buying, not after.

  • @RH-nc8uu
    @RH-nc8uu 3 місяці тому +2

    Based on your scoring inflation time and number per charge - looks like haven power pump is the only real option.
    Unlike some social network influences or influenced - a few ounces is like nothing to me especially for more handy core tools.
    I realize there has been light movement for around 70or so years but most people hiking the country did it with a minimum of about 45lbs back in the day now it's Ohh no I can't carry more than 15lbs or I'll die

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  3 місяці тому

      Indeed the Haven PowerPump is a great option..it's actually the first one I bought and used regularly. Heavier than the little guys, but not bad and does its job well.

    • @a.w.thompson4001
      @a.w.thompson4001 3 місяці тому +1

      And then there are those of us with crummy knee conformation which means ultralight is the only way we can continue to hike... sigh.
      Down to 1 original knee, but the 2nd is just waiting to fail somewhere inconvenient. It did once, but trekking poles are worth their weight in silver in that situation--got me back to the car on one leg.

  • @richpak1398
    @richpak1398 3 місяці тому +1

    the battery test doesn't really make sense. the only battery capacity measure that matters is the number of times the pump can fill a mattress per charge.

    • @outdoorempirecom
      @outdoorempirecom  3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, I did all that mainly to know how many inflations you can expect on a single charge and how they compare one to another. The rest is just for the most curious folks.

    • @richpak1398
      @richpak1398 3 місяці тому +1

      @@outdoorempirecom still appreciate the review!

  • @zoladkow
    @zoladkow 2 місяці тому +3

    eh, more portable gadgets making irritating noise where there should be none 😑 yup, i'm that guy.

  • @DiabloOutdoors
    @DiabloOutdoors 12 годин тому

    *"it's also supposed to blow air at a slightly higher pressure than it's little brother"*
    False. Both the X and X2 blows at 4KPa.
    You talk about Exorux and Capnew, but what about the Max pumps (2plus, 2pro, 3) and the Evo and Evo2 pumps? they are in the same category.
    *The Tiny 2X's battery is not 1300mAh. It's 1600mAh. And the Tiny X is 800mAh, not 1300mAh.* Listen, the 2X is heavier than the X. This for the exact same size. So what else than the battery can cause that? So they can't be of the same capacity.
    As for the runtime. You did it without a sleeping pad, so your results are not good. This because there was no air resistance you'd get by inflating a sleeping bag. The air resistance will have the blower to work harder and all electronic circuits are not the same. Also, if the X and X2 had the same battery capacity. Then how do you explain the X2 lasted longer than the X? ..... And your inflation count showed 35 for the X2 and 22 for the X. So what else than the battery capacity can cause that? They're not both 1300mAh...
    Talking about the lack of capacity from the Zero pump to fully inflate a sleeping pad is great. Well done for that part. But you forgot one important thing. The Zero pump is 2KPa so saying the pumps were at 4KPa is wrong. The Zero pump is at 2.5KPa (0.36psi) and the sleeping pad needs at least 0.50psi. That's why the zero pump is all about marketing BS. And, NO, the zero pump is not "still a good option". If you bring a pump, it's to avoid to inflate your sleeping pad manually, and you still will have to do that with the Zero pump. The best, overall is the 2X.