How Thomas Friedman and Yuval Noah Harari Think About The Future of Humanity

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  • Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
  • Two of the greatest thought leaders of the 21st century- Yuval Noah Harari and Thomas L. Friedman - discuss the Future of Humanity on March 19, 2018, with moderator Rachel Dry, The New York Times. “How To Understand Our Times” is an event series collaboration between The New York Times and how to: Academy bringing together New York Times journalists and leading figures in diverse fields to examine pressing issues in a changing world, including gender equality, artificial intelligence, and alternatives to fossil fuels, among others. For upcoming events, visit timesevents.nytimes.com.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 721

  • @PseudoProphet
    @PseudoProphet 4 роки тому +4

    No one can stop climate from changing, mainly because it's been changing like this for over a billion years.

    • @paystar3436
      @paystar3436 4 роки тому

      Let us all " Believe .. " ALL SCIENCE agrees that.. " the SUN in our solar system is the controlling factor and cause of ALL WEATHER on the planet EARTH. " Da ???? iDIOTS abound... !

  • @muzehack
    @muzehack 4 роки тому +38

    I watch this and all I can think is Friedman needs to meditate for two hours a day. He seems so anxious and non self aware. Harari definitely has a better grasp of the issues we will deal with in the future.

    • @rascalkr4967
      @rascalkr4967 2 роки тому +4

      Self-appointed pundit versus serious scholar.

    • @edigeyolchannel7177
      @edigeyolchannel7177 2 роки тому

      @@rascalkr4967 what a representative observation of you ❤

    • @manjulashrma59
      @manjulashrma59 2 роки тому

      X

    • @elvinimali706
      @elvinimali706 2 роки тому +1

      Harari is remarkable when it comes to packing wisdom in so few words.

  • @lochinvar5589
    @lochinvar5589 5 років тому +37

    Friedman's optimism is flexible enough to support any war that the Pentagon wants.

  • @PZim-jk7zk
    @PZim-jk7zk 4 роки тому +55

    I find it fascinating how many comments are rooting for Yuval, as if he was their home team, and this was a competition... I think you're missing the point if you think this was a debate or that one person is better than the other. Two different people with two different skill sets and knowledge bases, discussing complex issues and each offering a different perspective than the other. Between those two there is a lot of good information and I am sure both people find the other to be intelligent and helpful in spreading knowledge. Moving beyond the mindset of rooting for the home team, or needing to win over another is critical in moving forward as a species, and I think both speakers would agree.

    • @EnnDeeKay
      @EnnDeeKay 4 роки тому +5

      Well and truly stated :-) I totally agree.

    • @chaitanyagaur7928
      @chaitanyagaur7928 4 роки тому +4

      You are simply genius, sir!
      I was thinking the same thing.
      It's a vey common phenomena though. Whenever there are more than 1 person in a video people always compare.

    • @gympump9766
      @gympump9766 3 роки тому +3

      Couldn't disagree more, all I herd was balanced thought from one side, and name calling and demagoguery from the other. Any persons whome would condem patriots and nationalist as racist have no place.

    • @KeithRowell
      @KeithRowell 2 роки тому

      You Grant the speakers the right to different perspectives but not the audience.? I certainly recognize your point though. The discussion has more depth with the contrasting of the two.

  • @sinag7049
    @sinag7049 5 років тому +100

    The contrast between Harrari and Friedman is very helpful for identifying real scientific analysis vs memorized bag of flashy jargon.

    • @colinmccavitt1
      @colinmccavitt1 5 років тому +5

      So well put.

    • @fcaspergerrainman
      @fcaspergerrainman 4 роки тому +9

      Who is the scientific one??

    • @BeginnerDad
      @BeginnerDad 4 роки тому +9

      I agree. Harari is a good showman and book-seller. However, only Friedman makes me learn new stuff about the world. I love him on ecology, China, Middle East, economy, coal, America, Trump, you name it. As for Harari, he keeps claiming I am ruled by the algorithms. How come I found this conference that I wanted to find. Should not some algorithm work on my head to make sure I cast the right vote in the next election? Last but not least: Harari is a pessimist. I love those rosy pictures from Friedman. He is on the dot!

    • @Paulo-pv8db
      @Paulo-pv8db 4 роки тому +4

      I am thankful for your comment + 26 likes. That gives me hope that i have more chances of getting a job than 27 people. When
      somebody puts together the words historian and "real scientific analysis", i know i am in a good position. Don't get me wrong though. i loved Yuval Noah Harari talk .

    • @joseantoniomontoya3964
      @joseantoniomontoya3964 3 роки тому +2

      @@BeginnerDad so funny

  • @silversurfer512
    @silversurfer512 6 років тому +58

    Everyone, you don't have to insult someone to emphasize the greatness of someone.
    Yuval Harari would never appreciate that.

    • @andthereisntone3454
      @andthereisntone3454 5 років тому +10

      But Friedman just seems so dull, mediocre and uninsightful.

    • @colinmccavitt1
      @colinmccavitt1 5 років тому +4

      @@andthereisntone3454 Agreed. Friendman is a dinosaur.

    • @sdprz7893
      @sdprz7893 4 роки тому +5

      No we're not insulting him purely out of love for Harari but because he's a charlatan.

    • @enricomuratore70
      @enricomuratore70 3 роки тому

      @@sdprz7893 totally

    • @colorfulflowers574
      @colorfulflowers574 2 роки тому

      @@colinmccavitt1 Lol

  • @Extys
    @Extys 5 років тому +155

    If you only care about Yuval and not the others.
    Yuval on the Global Agenda: 0:53
    Yuval on the Mother Nature: 16:36
    Yuval on the Present Situation: 18:55
    Yuval on the Adaptation to modern fast changes and dangers of personal data analysis and discrimination: 33:00
    Yuval continuing on the dangers of personal data analysis: 43:44
    Yuval on the Complexity of today's cause-effect system: 54:41
    (Yuval being aware of our online cat video spam phenomena: 59:49 just kidding)
    Yuval on Pessimism, Optimism and the duality of whats important in different places at one time on the unfold of history: 1:09:00
    Yuval on his next book (which is out) "21st lessons for the 21 century": 1:14:00
    Yuval last comments on the last election and journalism: 1:22:15

  • @Journey-nb6ur
    @Journey-nb6ur 5 років тому +38

    Listening to Friedman sitting beside Harari, couldn't help but think "artificial" intelligence has another meaning.

    • @LoisSharbel
      @LoisSharbel 3 роки тому +4

      I am dismayed that Yuval didn't get to finish his last statement, as I think he meant close to the opposite of
      the meaning we were left with when the Times 'moderator' broke in. I am a Friedman admirer and this discussion
      damages my faith in him.

    • @peterbarker8249
      @peterbarker8249 3 роки тому +1

      ...and how are the homeless doing where you are.???

    • @mrmuttley1
      @mrmuttley1 2 роки тому

      The perfect comment. Beside a real public intellectual and polymath Friedman is simply not well equipped to discuss reality.
      He is really the self absorbed illiberal elitist.

    • @josephososkie3029
      @josephososkie3029 2 роки тому

      Yes.

    • @jamesm6817
      @jamesm6817 2 роки тому

      "AI" means.... whatever the end result need for their desired outcome. It doesn't have to be intelligent, it doesn't have to be JUST, moral or fair. It's simply the end result that they chose to program and select for to meet their particular agenda

  • @elkiness
    @elkiness 6 років тому +32

    Wow. That was fascinating, from two men I have admired for a long time. Now I'll do something I've never done--rarely with books, never with video: listen to it again. Thank you so much, gentlemen and excellent moderator. (I'm from the US, living for 50 years in Israel.)

  • @briantlougan810
    @briantlougan810 5 років тому +9

    That was amazing! It's now 6:13AM and I found myself stimulated and hanging on almost every word two guys sitting in chairs had to say. Whoever was responsible for putting together this discussion and getting it on you tube, thank you!

    • @phillipephan
      @phillipephan 4 місяці тому

      Listening to this at the gym in Dubai. This nyt series rocks!

  • @yurona5155
    @yurona5155 6 років тому +48

    Major takeaway from Friedman's part:
    The term 'social contract' has been redefined to mean: AT&T employees will have to die from sleep deprivation and stress-related disease before the age of 40.

    • @donkeychan491
      @donkeychan491 6 років тому +14

      What he's advocating is a form of social darwinism, repackaged as "meritocracy" and "diversity". The majority will end up living a precarious hand-to-mouth existence in his liberal utopia, while his ilk reap all the gains of the new, slavery-maximising technologies.

    • @yurona5155
      @yurona5155 6 років тому +9

      I just opted for being a bit less blunt about it. Still, it's stunning to watch someone describing the way to some exploitation-driven dystopia while being completely unaware of it (hint: judging by facial expressions, one participant in the conversation noticed this). It's one of those cases where one seriously wonders if Friedman is just a little slow in general or if this is one of the exceptions where using the term 'brain-washed' is actually justified.

    • @janinenicolefreeman7476
      @janinenicolefreeman7476 4 роки тому

      😥

  • @vjkay6215
    @vjkay6215 5 років тому +89

    Harari will get Noble prize soon.
    He explain everything in a simple way, very real guy

    • @usajimary
      @usajimary 4 роки тому +1

      True

    • @matinmohebi5466
      @matinmohebi5466 3 роки тому +4

      because he is a simpleton

    • @gympump9766
      @gympump9766 3 роки тому +3

      @@matinmohebi5466 albert einstein “If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.”

    • @matinmohebi5466
      @matinmohebi5466 3 роки тому +4

      @@gympump9766 when a grown man admits that his brain gets sucked out by Trump he must not have had brain to begin with.

    • @DarkLightning96
      @DarkLightning96 3 роки тому +3

      @@matinmohebi5466 Yuval didnt say that, Friedman did

  • @pjflynn
    @pjflynn 4 роки тому +7

    A very good conversation between two persons who actually think before they talk. Brilliant minds.

  • @Paulo-pv8db
    @Paulo-pv8db 4 роки тому +5

    Yuval Noah Harari and Thomas L. Friedman great discussion. I was astonished by so many negative comments about Thomas L. Friedman. They are different characters with different personalities. Yuval it's more of a humble guy. Friedman maybe not so much, but i don't understand lots of hate comments on him. First time Friedman got my attention was a speech at Yale university. That was an eye opening speech. But anyways, what strikes me the most is, on a discussion about "The Future of Humanity" they haven't talked about many topics that i believe are so important, such as:
    1) Violent games industry
    2) The amount of time most of the people spend watching trash/meaningless content such as cats videos, or on social media...Yuval concerns about the future of education of the kids...that thing about artificial inteligence knowing you better than yourself...
    The term that comes to my mind it's "Natural selection" - If you choose to spend most of the time, consuming meaningless content, the algorythm will learn that and keep feeding you with more nonsense content. Also the opposite is truth. I believe in the future, we won't need to go after a job. the companies will go after us, since they will know us better than we do, based on how we use technology and the use we make out of it.

  • @ShalomFreedman
    @ShalomFreedman 5 років тому +14

    Harari is interesting and Friedman is difficult to take. He gives pompousness a bad name.Harari is also simplistic. The idea that the machines will know us better than we know ourselves seems an unproven speculation. However his sense of the deep uncertainty regarding humanity's future seems correct.

    • @SH-hl3ce
      @SH-hl3ce 4 роки тому +1

      These AIs are getting really good. Facebook can work out your psychological profile on the basis of 5 "likes" on their website.
      It's gone much farther than people realise, research it (before it researches you lol)

  • @FrankWilliams--frankwilliamsru
    @FrankWilliams--frankwilliamsru 5 років тому +30

    Friedman is a corporate tool and Mr. Justin Lee Miller's comment on Friedman being a "car salesman persona" is right on.

    • @rohitrohan2009
      @rohitrohan2009 3 роки тому +4

      this comment was spot on.

    • @KeithRowell
      @KeithRowell 2 роки тому +1

      He's a "Fast talker", with triplets like "faster, better, stronger" made me think of a car salesman right away. It's a style that's taught in school. Not serving him well in this situation because the stakes are so high. Humanity is on the line. Chirpy optimism comes off as flippant, insincere.

  • @JuanCarlosChavezFdez
    @JuanCarlosChavezFdez 5 років тому +75

    Thomas L. Friedman... an actor Yuval Noah Harari... a thinker

    • @DavidMorley123
      @DavidMorley123 4 роки тому +2

      Well said

    • @rudolfboukal1538
      @rudolfboukal1538 4 роки тому +11

      Friedman's intellectual dishonesty (or blindness) is embarrassing. Yuval is a self reflective giant .... Hate to be so negative, but the difference between the two is obvious.

    • @lpgoog
      @lpgoog 4 роки тому +4

      Aside from his amazing breadth of knowledge/understanding, Harari seems genuinely concerned/empathetic about humanity's future. He wants us to make the right choices in the aggregate. Friedman might as well be a paid corporate lobbyist. His vibe is flat like his book.

    • @weverleywagstaffe8490
      @weverleywagstaffe8490 3 роки тому +2

      Lol yessss

  • @MrNemonsteri
    @MrNemonsteri 6 років тому +12

    Harari's arguments are profound.

  • @michaelbillington8737
    @michaelbillington8737 6 років тому +16

    A brilliant discussion from such different viewpoints... thank you for posting this.

  • @experiencescotlanddifferen4910
    @experiencescotlanddifferen4910 3 роки тому +3

    for me it is so obvious at Harrari is explaining something useful for all of us around the planet and Friedman is promoting himself and the USA and getting half of it wrong.

  • @israelt.3739
    @israelt.3739 6 років тому +135

    Yuval is genius

    • @israelt.3739
      @israelt.3739 6 років тому +2

      O? Pardon me your majesty! You is- A- great grass fed monarch!

    • @cesarrodriguez8893
      @cesarrodriguez8893 5 років тому

      Yuval is man

    • @morganp7238
      @morganp7238 4 роки тому +3

      Yuval is the first member of the useless class.

  • @sukantasaha5678
    @sukantasaha5678 3 роки тому +4

    The look on Yuval when the host cut him short at the end 😂

    • @dinulipati
      @dinulipati Рік тому

      Well observed! She must have felt his reproaching look, so she could have apologized but didn't.

  • @JohnPartyka
    @JohnPartyka 5 років тому +27

    Harari and Chomsky... bring it on... please!

    • @BeethovenIsGrumpyCat
      @BeethovenIsGrumpyCat 5 років тому +1

      Would be cool if they talked together.

    • @cesarrodriguez8893
      @cesarrodriguez8893 5 років тому +3

      Before chomsky dies....

    • @BeethovenIsGrumpyCat
      @BeethovenIsGrumpyCat 5 років тому +2

      Cesar Rodriguez Chomsky is like Keith Richards. He will love forever.

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 5 років тому +2

      Chomsky needs to just relax and enjoy life before he checks out.

    • @SH-hl3ce
      @SH-hl3ce 4 роки тому

      AND Mark Lynas author of 6 degrees with either of them!!

  • @jefsimpson8129
    @jefsimpson8129 5 років тому +29

    To me this was an astonishingly insightful experience with two men of immense intelligence and different backgrounds offering their views for the benefit of the viewers. I loved it and I thank the New York Times and UA-cam for making it available. More please!

  • @AnnaMishel
    @AnnaMishel 5 років тому +13

    Yuval . . “No stories” . . Friedman . . “Only stories”

  • @lo0360
    @lo0360 5 років тому +19

    Good debate with 2 points of view, from 2 excellent speakers and thinkers. In terms of style, Yuval wins, while Friedman seems too chatty.

  • @kln4863
    @kln4863 Рік тому +1

    If? You want to lose your freedoms to think for yourself and you want to have somebody think for you? This is the guy to listen to

  • @MedicinalRock
    @MedicinalRock 3 роки тому +11

    Friedman: “The glass is half full”. Harari: “The glass is half terrifying”

  • @bryanfyock7414
    @bryanfyock7414 6 років тому +47

    One cannot underestimate the power of Yuval's meditative practices when it comes to his salient cognitive abilities and overall awareness.

    • @mauricekiely6703
      @mauricekiely6703 5 років тому +10

      You're on drugs, right? He is simplistic, agenda driven, too subjective, lacks vision himself and is too vague and all over the place intellectually. No penetration, no disciplined thinking, weak polemics. Sounds good to the uninformed, but is a lightweight. Uninteresting thinker.

    • @LoisSharbel
      @LoisSharbel 3 роки тому +1

      Did you mean 'overestimate'?

  • @Known-unknowns
    @Known-unknowns 6 років тому +125

    Every time Yuval Harari speaks listen. As soon as the other guy speaks just jump to the next time Yuval speaks. Do that and this is a good talk.

    • @ruibasilio526
      @ruibasilio526 5 років тому +3

      EXACTLY!

    • @nukitachan
      @nukitachan 5 років тому +20

      Here it is! xD
      Yuval on the Global Agenda: 0:53
      Yuval on the Mother Nature: 16:36
      Yuval on the Present Situation: 18:55
      Yuval on the Adaptation to modern fast changes and dangers of personal data analysis and discrimination: 33:00
      Yuval continuing on the dangers of personal data analysis: 43:44
      Yuval on the Complexity of today's cause-effect system: 54:41
      (Yuval being aware of our online cat video spam phenomena: 59:49 just kidding)
      Yuval on Pessimism, Optimism and the duality of whats important in different places at one time on the unfold of history: 1:09:00
      Yuval on his next book (which is out) "21st lessons for the 21 century": 1:14:00
      Yuval last comments on the last election and journalism: 1:22:15

    • @mo0dyy
      @mo0dyy 5 років тому +7

      nukitachan youtuber of the year

    • @thepolycultureproject
      @thepolycultureproject 5 років тому +1

      spot on :)

    • @saskiademoor8400
      @saskiademoor8400 5 років тому +3

      Sounds to me u didn't listen deeply. That u have yr preference fine, it is just saying something about you. Just seems u are not aware of that.

  • @bdlaface
    @bdlaface 5 років тому +39

    Yup! Friedman would do himself a favor by not talking . . .

    • @enricomuratore70
      @enricomuratore70 3 роки тому +2

      too much of a difference between the two and Friedman is not intelligent enough, or maybe he is arrogant enough, not to understand it

  • @birottamdutta7825
    @birottamdutta7825 4 роки тому +18

    I didn't think it was possible but Yuval look even more intelligent and profound than he normally sounds. Or maybe its just that Friedman keeps blabbering inane stuff about AT&T and uploading pictures on social media :/

  • @danlewis7641
    @danlewis7641 6 років тому +63

    Friedman brings down the level of this entire discussion. He is an apologist for Neo-Liberalism and a corporatist shill. Going into to this, I was curious to see if Friedman has raised his game and I was disappointed. Harari is the one who really is looking at the big picture.

    • @rachelkent3180
      @rachelkent3180 6 років тому +2

      Wow. That's exactly what I thought watching this discussion.

    • @benjaminvarasarnello
      @benjaminvarasarnello 5 років тому

      yes

    • @mauricekiely6703
      @mauricekiely6703 5 років тому

      @@benjaminvarasarnello I agree that Harari sees the bigger picture, but his vision is still way too narrow. Upon analysis his submission doesn't hold up.

    • @mauricekiely6703
      @mauricekiely6703 5 років тому

      I mean the bigger picture of the two gents here. His vision is despite that too narrow.

    • @sneakeypete45
      @sneakeypete45 5 років тому

      Harari speaks with an economy of expression that has in part something to do with English being a second language; but that deliberating impulse, as fluid a speaker as he is, also showcases the considered weighting of his mind putting forward his premise. Friedman speaks as quickly as he thinks and it is a tour de force with colloquialisms, considered premises but as a hustled package delivered in a self confident rush. Harari wants to communicate with an intent for reciprocity. Friedman performs brightly, confident of his charm. I can't help but be suspicious of the dusinclination to speak simply or at least sparingly. In hunting terms, Friedman opens the choke and aims the shotgun at the tree, confident he'll hit something, somewhere. Harari selects his target with intent. One shot, one intent. There's something elegant occurring when someone brilliant can speak plainly, even when addressing complexity. The Friedman examples come often in multiple, ad infinitum volleys. As if he needs to, in his re iterations, speak over people's depth. I listen differently with each person. But they are not a good match, speaking together.

  • @hborichie
    @hborichie 6 років тому +51

    Mr. Friedman is out of his depth here. Utterly ordinary viewpoint; no imagination, no vision. Yuval, on the other hand, is genius. Pure. Visionary.

    • @chrisw7347
      @chrisw7347 5 років тому

      I think they're both important perspectives. Humans are far more nuanced. But yes, I agree, Yuval is without a doubt a genius at a level that I would say few people understand.

    • @mauricekiely6703
      @mauricekiely6703 5 років тому +1

      Harari is simplistic. He makes many references to a large variety of subjects but fails to tie these together through a dearth of creative imagination. He fails to see the bigger picture, though he tries. He is an intellectual for the unlearned, his erudition is shallow. The real action in the world which is creating the future is happening in an area he dismisses and fails to understand. Uninteresting thinker.

    • @grazziamarch8029
      @grazziamarch8029 5 років тому

      "Utterly ordinary viewpoint" Great description! I would add, out dated viewpoint

  • @paddynair6446
    @paddynair6446 4 роки тому +3

    Fantastic to have both of them together !

  • @beag4961
    @beag4961 5 років тому +27

    ThisThomas Friedman guy sure does like speaking in metaphors... He spins his stories like a grandfather and not like a journalist;)

  • @takayoutube98
    @takayoutube98 5 років тому +3

    The scariest thing isn't the outside world, it's our mind! Currently we still couldn't understand how our consciousness work and it's the biggest problem we are gonna face together.

  • @rascalkr4967
    @rascalkr4967 2 роки тому +2

    I've never heard Friedman make a prediction based on his assessment of the present and not be wrong.

    • @KeithRowell
      @KeithRowell 2 роки тому

      I'd love to see that list. It be a great counter point to his incessant anecdotes.

  • @ZedofZardoz
    @ZedofZardoz 6 років тому +5

    Most relevant and fresh analysis VS motivational speaker from the world of Office Space

  • @leylautman3169
    @leylautman3169 5 років тому +4

    Is Friedman on sales tour selling his books and companies and their products? For every good idea he gives he advertises something, he lost me. Contrast that with Yuval, such an intelligent wise man full of original ideas

  • @xuc03
    @xuc03 3 роки тому +1

    I am watching it in July, 2020. Two years after this talk, the discussion is more insightful.

  • @YRPPML
    @YRPPML 6 років тому +70

    Poor Friedman, he is so desperate to talk about himself and his country. Short vision. Yuval has a clear big picture of humans and the world.

    • @MKTElM
      @MKTElM 5 років тому +4

      But Friedman is better dressed and has an expensive haircut and is looking after his moustache and wears a Rolex Oyster Datejust on his wrist , while Yuval Noah is wearing an off the peg suit from Primark .

    • @homeplanetimages6521
      @homeplanetimages6521 5 років тому +3

      I disagree. He has a lot of good insights. Listen to this video.

    • @grazziamarch8029
      @grazziamarch8029 5 років тому

      His "short vision" as you say, goes part to part with "long vision" business. His life's so extemely boring, all the time thinking about purchasing and money..

    • @jakewoods6721
      @jakewoods6721 4 роки тому

      Yolanda RP Yeah because somehow putting 'the world' first is better than putting yourself or your country first, which is funny because it's not possible to do. It's like putting the 'community' before the individual, which is retarded because there's no way you can define the community as an objectivr entity without pointing to individuals. People who 'put the world' first are just twats who like to clump and devalue individuals together so they can cherry pick who they benefit and who they punish under the guise of focuing on an imaginary concept like humanity. An american should have no responsiblity to someone in england and vice versa, and only the minimum amount of responsibility to those in the same country sd them as they're operating under the same system and so the same rules. Leftists are stupid anyway so if you can't even get your head round that then maybe you should think about who's the one with the shortest vision here.

  • @cfcreative1
    @cfcreative1 4 роки тому +3

    I am not a big fan of the NYT but Thomas L. Friedman seems like a nice guy. In times of change you need calm people.

  • @TheAvaB
    @TheAvaB 5 років тому +17

    When will we have a debate between Elon Musk and Yuval Harrari

    • @darthsidious1353
      @darthsidious1353 4 роки тому +1

      I don't think Yuval debates with idiots

    • @rdc515
      @rdc515 4 роки тому +1

      @@darthsidious1353 do watch him try to get zuckerberg to understand what his ideas are 😂

    • @stephenotoole6633
      @stephenotoole6633 3 роки тому

      Elon musk is dangerous egomaniac

  • @gillescastel3777
    @gillescastel3777 4 роки тому +1

    I much admire Harari and share with many of his views. I did not know Thomas Friedman until I watched this debate. I find many of the comments about Friedman unfair, undeserved and sometimes almost insulting.

  • @larryleker6366
    @larryleker6366 5 років тому +1

    These comments are refreshingly smart and thoughtful. Yes, Friedman is old and has a lot of cute predigested soundbites, but he's well versed and makes some good points. Harari is an academician. He's better read, less cliche in his thinking, and a bit younger. I find it encouraging that the next generation is smarter and better informed than my own.

  • @MrKansaitim
    @MrKansaitim 6 років тому +29

    Friedman loves himself ... but would the NYT algorithm say he is on top of his game???

  • @nancymohass4891
    @nancymohass4891 4 роки тому +1

    To prevent depression , on every day living , I think about what Friedman believes , and to prevent nativity , stupidity in long term ,I need to remember what prof. Harari believes !

  • @anasbayrouni4866
    @anasbayrouni4866 4 роки тому +7

    How Friedman interrupted Harari when he was talking about the problem of lacking a self motivation ... and then jumped to Algorthim talk is really silly thing to do for listner trying to follow the talk and learn from it.

  • @ernestleibovmd7902
    @ernestleibovmd7902 2 роки тому +1

    Freedman is analyzing past, Harrari predicts a future, and does it very scientifically.

  • @lizgichora6472
    @lizgichora6472 4 роки тому +3

    Understanding more and Fearing Less: Thank you both for an interesting talk, hopefully we'll heed to Listen.

  • @AnnaPilgrim
    @AnnaPilgrim 4 роки тому +2

    So enlightening and clear language from both giants about what concerns us all.

  • @aguzmanstein
    @aguzmanstein 4 роки тому +3

    Mr. Friedman, what does "Applied Hope" means. Can you guide me to the info? Thanks.

  • @user-wt6wv7xd2t
    @user-wt6wv7xd2t Місяць тому

    I read Lexus and the Olive tree in university. Unforgetable experience! It talks about everything, not just one subject.

    • @user-wt6wv7xd2t
      @user-wt6wv7xd2t 25 днів тому

      but it was wrong. world did not turn into mcdonalds heaven with capitalisms everywhere.

  • @AnnaMishel
    @AnnaMishel 5 років тому +7

    Yuval is brilliant, and nice.

  • @adagu3
    @adagu3 5 років тому +11

    Yuval is deep thought, bare to the bone

  • @canalicalhan5909
    @canalicalhan5909 6 років тому +13

    We see the difference between a true intellectual and someone, lacks on intellectuality, is not able to understand cause-effect relationship, arrogantly keeps repeating how important and successful he is.

  • @MauroRincon
    @MauroRincon 6 років тому +20

    I love how Harari calls Friedman on the greatness of his eternal learner's utopia. "Yes, we're headed there, but it sounds awfully stressful". Friedman is smart b ut his constant self-promotion is so tiring.

    • @janinenicolefreeman7476
      @janinenicolefreeman7476 4 роки тому

      Friedman will never know how much a gallon of gas is... Or can he afford food... yuppie

  • @amauryalmeida5063
    @amauryalmeida5063 6 років тому +2

    What scares me the most is that nowadays nobody knows what to teach children either at home or in schools...

    • @lancebartlett3892
      @lancebartlett3892 3 роки тому +1

      I think we need to divide up skills into mini units that an employer sets as 'required knowledge' for each job.
      Want to be a designer for Boeing? You will need unit 48,993, 200, 10 and 6., Want to be a graphic designer for XXX company? You will need 48, 993, 200, 12 and 7. Hence, to move from the one career to the other requires learning for unit 12 and 7. You find new careers/ increased pay based on how few units you need to transfer across. When employers need bigger moves (because there's a shortage of ppl in a field, they have to pay more to entice ppl to learn more units (or harder ones)
      Publish the data every month for the supply/demand ratio for each job type (nationally) and let ppl's self motivation and desire to change their lifestyle drive them to learn.
      Put all the units up online for free. Open halls for monitored exams for the final tests for each unit.

  • @cyberlioness
    @cyberlioness 3 роки тому +4

    Yuval comes out much wiser than Friedman here, who’s comes on as a self absorbed salesman peddling himself his ego & his own brand of memography! (I coined a bee word here).

  • @ericalexander2720
    @ericalexander2720 5 років тому +13

    Why do they still invite Friedman to speak??? Especially with someone as clear and as intelligent as Harari. Why would Harari agree to share the stage with a 'cliche'??

  • @MaySim
    @MaySim 3 місяці тому

    Yuval Noah Harari is talking about humanity and AI. Friedman is talking about the talks he's delivered, a world that consists only of the United States, and what his perspective of his own importance is.

  • @orangealk
    @orangealk 4 роки тому +2

    The discussion is truly worthwhile watching. Both of them are Masters in their own spheres. Harari is as usual at his clinical best. I would have agreed more to Mr Friedman if could able to give examples beyond America. Many of his arguments does not fit beyond America. I understand that he was talking on the upside (on accelerated change in technology, etc), but are less implementable or pragmatic in third world countries.
    I think Mr Harari is bang on most of the issues discussed.
    I see this way. If technology has solved most of the problems of humans and presume that it made sapien's life more comfortable, then why most of the Humans are not Happy ??

  • @ALavin-en1kr
    @ALavin-en1kr 3 місяці тому

    Old cultures have to fade as they are incapable of change. The new comes in and takes over until it, in its turn, is incapable of change. Thomas Friedman makes perfect sense, smart guy.

  • @gjcohen100
    @gjcohen100 5 років тому +1

    Friedman adds the reality of optimism in how movements begin from his uniquely Midwest Jewish American roots. The two played off each other well.

  • @EricPalladiniJr
    @EricPalladiniJr 5 років тому +1

    The paradox is that labor saving devices “save” labor, not using it, thereby making it useless. Unless we can find new ways to employ ourselves, to be useful.

    • @bateli777
      @bateli777 4 роки тому

      The algorithm will be superior.... Always

  • @DM-il4sw
    @DM-il4sw 2 роки тому +1

    Great comments Thomas, thank you

  • @PseudoProphet
    @PseudoProphet 4 роки тому +1

    I truly believe that human beings have already evolved out of this planet atleast once, while the rest of us were left behind.

  • @doisaycom
    @doisaycom 6 років тому +6

    Relationship goals: the couple holding hands in the back (27:42)

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 6 років тому

      An encouraging sign of how we can *stay human* in a machine civilization.

    • @Rneslaroc23
      @Rneslaroc23 5 років тому

      My heart sunk a little when their hands finally let go.

    • @bonjovirunaway
      @bonjovirunaway 5 років тому

      She is holding tight for sure:)

  • @ALavin-en1kr
    @ALavin-en1kr 3 місяці тому

    People may have information and skills but not understanding and commonsense, making them so more evolved than a computer. Understanding and commonsense are highly under rated.

  • @aqibejaz7253
    @aqibejaz7253 5 років тому +13

    What a contrast. A true intellectual giant of our time (Harari) sitting next to a giant intellectual midget of our time (Friedman).

  • @jasontu5040
    @jasontu5040 6 років тому

    Where is the Airbnb experience thing that Friedman is talking about? Can anyone find it?

  • @soundslight7754
    @soundslight7754 2 роки тому

    Winning formula for success in future -
    Focus on human needs and provide a better easier cheaper faster solution
    + work for yourself
    + get better at human and money skills
    + embrace change
    + learn investment
    + remain agile
    = you'll be fine no matter what world throws at you

  • @panahim
    @panahim 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you. More please.

  • @DavidIntrator
    @DavidIntrator 5 років тому +9

    Friedman is totally outclassed by a legitimate thinker.

  • @ULTD8
    @ULTD8 6 років тому +13

    love you yuval

  • @vincentconti3633
    @vincentconti3633 4 роки тому +4

    Great ideas to think about!

  • @mompyish
    @mompyish 4 роки тому +3

    Friedman seems more like a animated bookseller than a journalist.Yuval is far more available and realistic .

    • @patcampbell2664
      @patcampbell2664 2 роки тому

      Would Yuval understand what Friedman understood long ago?

  • @PseudoProphet
    @PseudoProphet 4 роки тому +1

    Internet will make the world a one big better place.... It just takes time... Whenever new people interact with each other for the first time, there are always frictions.... But understanding comes very soon after that... I predict all the online hate will subside within next 5 years.

  • @miguelvd
    @miguelvd 6 років тому +7

    Genius Yuval with these 2 in the "New York Times"! haha It´s like time travel for him. I liked the light trick they tried to put them all at the same "special" level. He didn´t let them have even that

  • @robertcabalu1556
    @robertcabalu1556 4 роки тому +1

    Freidman good story teller. Yuval talks sensible things

  • @heidigone
    @heidigone 2 роки тому

    He has one of the coolest accents I've ever heard.

  • @abuisaac506
    @abuisaac506 5 років тому +2

    Living humanity vs war horn

  • @ceased2care
    @ceased2care 3 роки тому

    Harari dictates while appearing to be informed, charming & helpful. And because he's informed, charming & helpful, never gets challenged.

  • @sudhirpatel7620
    @sudhirpatel7620 Рік тому +1

    Nature goes on forever for everyone and everything to return as everyone and everything an infinite number of times through evolutionary processes. 🌌

  • @pixel4u
    @pixel4u 6 років тому +80

    Yuval: Factual, Scientific, Interesting....
    Thomas: Irrelevant boring life stories

    • @cristybello
      @cristybello 5 років тому +3

      So true

    • @D.2023
      @D.2023 5 років тому +7

      Friedmans "act" is so "try hard" that it is painful to watch. Is it just me, or he really tries to impersonate Trump with cheesy body language and voice intonation?

    • @DavidMorley123
      @DavidMorley123 4 роки тому +2

      Exactly

  • @JoePalau
    @JoePalau 6 років тому +9

    Nuclear War, Global Warming and the impact of AI/Machine Learning on our way of life are solid topics. How to get to a place where strategic planning works in a Liberal Democracy is a good topic. Pretending that bad things can’t or won’t happen in 20 years give the trend we see today is a bad solution strategy. Yelling profanities is a poor tacit. Calm listening and thoughtful response might help. Public conversation is a necessity. Civil conversation is the only hope for us to test ideas and address public issues. Many ideas will fall by the wayside. Some will help to show us the way. Let’s hang together and see public issues through. Let’s not quit or give up. That won’t work...

    • @MKTElM
      @MKTElM 5 років тому

      Its not a lack of ideas . What is needed is a galvanizing force for the 'collective will' to steer us globally towards the common good .
      Many people now admit that Liberal Democracy has failed and is failing .

  • @xgeronimo005
    @xgeronimo005 4 роки тому +29

    Friedman's ideas are pretty outdated

  • @carmiella940
    @carmiella940 5 років тому

    Yuval Harari, I am a huge fan of yours, but as an Educator I totally disagree that we 'have no idea what to teach the youth' to prepare them for the future. If computers can automize all the jobs that we don't actually LIKE doing, as it has done much of until now, such as cleaning a hotel or a landfill, or plumbing the pipes for us without us having to tear down walls just to rebuild them, etc., we no longer have to lose precious days of our life to menial tasks. We are thus freed to be the MOST human we have ever been! I personally have tens of classes of curricula planned (I'm only 29 and so haven't taught them yet, but I have worked very hard on mapping them out... also because I myself am still a student myself, a Master's Degree Student) that blend visual art creation, art history, movement, dance, physics, philosophy, and mysticism. Other youth are learning to create and manipulate the technology to be even more beautiful and fun and interesting. As a professor and one of my true teachers, though I've only met you through a screen on a video feed and read the beginning of Sapiens, I would think you would be the most optimistic about how much MORE magnificent Education will become in the 21st century. Yes, AI, can evolve without humans, but we do/did create it. In the same way that we evolve to question and challenge God and thus change Her and the world around us, She never loses the position as Creator. Computers have no wisdom without programmers. Youth have an incredibly exciting century to look forward to; challenge and duress give the human spirit meaning and purpose on its journey. And I can tell you from the children that I have already worked with teaching digital photography, environmental sustainability, art, capoeira, gymnastics, and dance-- the human love of learning never dies. Neither does the human spirit in the heart of the brave. So, yes, some people can be coopted by super intelligent computers because they were foolish lemmings *hem, hem Thomas Friedman hem, hem* to begin with OR because they are youth who are vulnerable without proper guides. In the way that we have loved and always will love each other and the thrill of learning and growing, we will just embrace this new life form, AI, as a friend to continue our adventure with.

    • @carmiella940
      @carmiella940 5 років тому

      כדאי לכם לדבר עם דן שרון שיצר את ׳ארץ חוץ׳ ולדור שירה שמלמד בבית ספר ביאליק רוגוזין בתל אביב!

  • @chandrapanchabhikesan7712
    @chandrapanchabhikesan7712 3 роки тому

    (Pancha Chandra): ' Leave The World Behind! is another feather in Yuval Noah Harari's cap!

  • @cherootie
    @cherootie 4 роки тому

    thanks, good to continue this now and later

  • @stefaanvl8385
    @stefaanvl8385 3 роки тому

    A purified heart cannot be manipulated, neither by man nor by Artifical Intelligence. That will be the final recognition of the forces working toward technocracy, that the pure heart in the last analysis eludes them. The heart is not synonymous with emotion.

  • @albanopedro2731
    @albanopedro2731 3 роки тому

    For the presenter I have to say that I love your nose, very well shaped, and congratulation for the moderation of the debate. For the giants of knowlledge in the debate thanks for helping us diving in the future, above all a uncertain future...

  • @jimmyliu4614
    @jimmyliu4614 4 роки тому +1

    I enjoy watching brilliant minds collide.

  • @homeplanetimages6521
    @homeplanetimages6521 5 років тому +9

    There's this amazingly smart human on this planet. His name is Yuval Noah Harari.

    • @threecolorsblue
      @threecolorsblue 5 років тому

      Maybe note consiusnesly great set up of two differen personalities. Harari shows future Friedman past. It is important that we realise that and choose the right road as a single but thinking about all humananity future challenges. For me is clear..

  • @morphixnm
    @morphixnm 6 років тому +7

    Liked very much what Friedman said about adaptive communities!

    • @donkeychan491
      @donkeychan491 6 років тому +4

      Yes, let's impel everyone to constantly adapt to the needs of capital - wonderful!

    • @chewyjello1
      @chewyjello1 5 років тому

      ...and if they don't adapt, let them die (and eat cake)!

  • @buckeye200175
    @buckeye200175 6 місяців тому +1

    Imagine getting paid just to give your opinion …..and never be held accountable for it

  • @moonmunster
    @moonmunster 6 років тому +1

    Good discussion!

  • @theendoftimesministry
    @theendoftimesministry Рік тому +1

    *Romans 1:22*
    “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,”

  • @morphixnm
    @morphixnm 6 років тому +10

    Appreciate Harari's work to bring people into the debate!