I have a hip condition (fairly minor) but it causes a fair bit of ache now and then, and I have been looking for a chair with Pelvic support for ages! This is definitely now on my radar
I've been waiting on BTOD's coverage of this chair. So, it seems like a chair still largely "in flux"; it's not finalized. I see little incentive to order it for the foreseeable future. Please do cover it once it's in a more finalized and complete state.
Yikes ~$2400 for their all black basic version, because customizing the back panels or changing to white costs a ridiculous ~$160 each, with synthetic leather instead of cloth, so you don't overheat, as recommended in the video. Way more expensive than a Herman Miller Embody or Steelcase Leap. I guess if it really truly is that much better than its competition in terms of comfort it's worth it for those with neck & back issues but Im highly skeptical.
Hard to disagree with your points, especially across a wider group of people. I'm not sure this chair is ready for mainstream or if it ever will be. We will find that out over a longer time period. Anything with a $2,400 price tag will limit the scope of people who can/will even consider it. If you have chronic back issues, I can see this being a really solid option now, since you've likely invested way more than the cost of this chair to solve back pain already. If it doesn't solve the issue, they can always return it. If you constantly bottom out on chairs, with your sit bones pushing through to seat shell/frame, this is also another option, with their domed seat pad/shell design. The back two thirds of the seat are very comfortable for me, but the front third is a work in progress. If you're just looking for a nice ergonomic chair, I'd probably wait for the update we give on the new seat pad and arm changes. This in my opinion will have the potential to push it closer to those top tier chairs for a wider audience. -Greg
@@btodtv No way as a fledgling company will they be able to pull off these prices. Not only are the established players cheaper, they also regularly have discounts in addition to being able to get them used.
I have been eyeing this chair for some time now and waiting for an honest review. Based on this review I will be waiting for the improvements you have suggested. I also shared the same sentiments as another commenter that they are a start-up pricing themselves to compete with established companies with a product that needs to be refined and they have not earned a reputation yet to justify the price. Seems like it will be a great chair once they get the kinks worked out and I look forward to another review once revisions are made. I would also like to see how it works for different heights, and if price point is justifiable compared to other chairs. From all the research I have done, this would compete well in the $800-$900 Range but the $1800-$2500 just seems like there are better and more established companies to choose from.
There's no way this chair should go down to the 800-900$ range. Tooling, molding and just the amount of weight and material. That plus the overall quality would land it at $1,500 at the very LEAST along with Herman Miller and Haworth options as a boutique type of option.
@@EzFightGGI had the chance to sit in one and was disappointed. It’s definitely not as refined as a Herman Miller or Steelcase, and there claims to fit up to 6’8” just isn’t true. I am 6’6” and the seat was too short and I couldn’t get the low back pad to adjust comfortably. I really wanted to like it but just couldn’t… They may also want to look at offering a larger size for people over 5’9”.
@@sixteenlevel that's the average start up behaviour, it should sound huge alarm bells when a start up whose first chair prototype couldn't even swivel claims it's better than well stablished brands and is offering a overpriced product
My comment would be that moving around in the chair isn't important for everyone. I thought it would be cos you guys and Ahnestly make quite a big deal about it, but I've found personally in my embody that i don't really utilise the backrest movement it allows much. Which is handy cus the gaming embody is pretty loud.
I have a hard time trusting Ahnestly after he recommended getting a used chair and lying about being the original owner to get the warranty. Like I get the why but that's not an honest move.
@@Lockke_frankly a lot of chair brands talk a big game about how "sustainable" they are but make user repairs unfeasible, expensive, or outright impossible. Claiming a warranty that isn't yours from a company that, will not notice the difference in order to keep a product out of landfill and someone with less money sitting healthy is a good thing in my opinion. So until brands like steelcase or Herman miller put their money where their mouths are, I wouldn't feel bad about a warranty claim.
@@Lockke_ You comment makes no sense. The company is trying to get out of honoring the warranty using ownership as a technicality, he's telling you to not tell them you are not the original owner so you can get the warranty that should still be in effect and was paid for because it's built into the cost of the chair. The only person that could possibly be mad at that is someone who works for a chair company. LOL So which one do you work for?
Very cool that you guys directly influenced this chair and its features, like the warranty. Unrelated, and I know I'm not the first to say it, but since you guys take ergonomics so seriously, you might want to look into minimalist/zero-drop shoes.
I bought this chair after watching this video, and it arrived this week. What an amazing chair. The total experience from purchase to setup to now was top-notch. This chair is a true game-changer for someone with the posture of a snail like me. This is the chair to beat in my mind. I currently have 4 others chairs in my office because I could never get rid of my ailments. I can’t wait to see how much better I feel in a few months. Thanks for this great video!
They aren't too far from me, next time I go to Grand Rapids to visit friends maybe I will stop by and see if I can try one out. That's a big problem with a lot of these chairs, really aren't accessible for people to test out. Even the authorized dealers for a lot of these high end chairs don't even have all the models on hand.
Unfortunately, they don't have anywhere easy to visit in Grand Rapids. That is the factory where it is being built, but they don't have a showroom, since they do not own the space. The best bet is checking with local Relax The Back stores or the Authorized Retailer in Waukesha, WI -Greg
It's worth noting that this company seems to be a start-up. For an asking price that high, I would seriously question if Anthros will be around for 12 years to handle your warranty. Not saying they'll just "take the bag and run" of course, but the floor can fall out from beneath these organizations all the time.
Definitely agree, you should always be a cautious with start ups. I hope they are successful long term, because they are trying to make a difference in the category. None of the alternative DTC brands have brought much of significance to the table IMO. -Greg
We purposely don't offer recline because it induces shear and increased pressure into the buttocks while also making it difficult to maintain a proper seated posture.
Anyone else frustrated that it only goes down to 17 inches? I really need something that goes down to 15 inches, I don’t do well in foot rests. I can’t seem to find a chair that fits me.
@@btodtvWhoops, I meant 15.5 inches, that's the best height for me. Do you know of any chairs? I've been really struggling to find something that works and through my research have not found many options, when you say specialty chairs, do you mean a custom chair?
Leap and Aeron size A are the only ones I can think of that aren't specialty chairs. By specialty chairs, I mean chairs designed for petite or little people. -Ryan
Sat in this chair at a store. Seemed cheaply built for 2k. Didn’t seem any more solid than a serta chair…I thought the seat was too small and the material on the seat was not flat on it, leather or cloth which I found odd. You can push it down, there was air between the fabric and padding. No thanks.
Sorry to hear, the chair comes with a 12 year warranty and is tested to the highest industry standards. The cover design to allow the fabric to move independently from the foam is intentional. This prevents unnecessary pressure and shear that often causes discomfort and poor posture. This design comes from data and evidence gathered in an effort to create the lowest pressure cushion on the market.
I tried this chair the other day and I honestly felt this was the least comfortable chair I have ever been in and that is not hyperbole. Even after "dialing it in" it was painfully rigid and uncomfortable. I was really sold by their marketing but I hated this chair. And the build quality was very poor relative to the price.
Where did you get the opportunity to test? Could help others who want to do the same, since it's a big ticket item. I can understand that for sure, especially based on my own experience. The four star base and original upper back felt like it locked you in too much. More similar to an Aeron, then say a Leap or Embody. Now it is a bit of hybrid, with the upper back moving/pivoting some and the seat still keeping you locked in. The next iteration with a waterfall front edge for the seat pan and the arm pad improvement should help even more. As far as build quality, it is equal to any of the top of the line options from Herman Miller and Steelcase IMO. We've seen a ton of chairs and it is at the top of list from a build standpoint. -Greg
@@btodtv The "Relax the Back" stores in Las Vegas and SoCal have them. Slight disclaimer in that my proportions make finding a comfortable chair difficult. I am 5'9" but with a 27" inseam. So I need a chair that is lower to the ground and has a shorter seat depth. But because of my tiny legs, my torso is long so I sit around 6'1 to 6"2 (average inseam for 5'9" is 30") so I have issues then with the back and need a taller back. This could easily explain the difficulty. However, most chairs just "don't fit" where the Anthros was actively painful. For almost all of my life I have just sat at the edge of a chair with feet planted which is ergonomic.
@p6202 That is unfortunate that you didn't have a great experience being "fit" for the chair. Although we don't pretend to be the chair for every person, in every instance, I would guess that the chair was not properly set up for you. If the chair was painful, that is a major red flag that it was setup in a manner than was too aggressive. We offer free posture consultations with licensed therapists that will gladly meet with you (or any other customer) who might have needed some tweaking. As much as we attempt to train our retail partners, sometimes the decades of seating expertise doesn't flow through the the local sales rep. We appreciate you giving it a try and hope we get another chance and have one of our therapists give you a look. thanks!
Don't know what kool-aid these companies drink but I would not buy a chair that does not have a headrest. Thank goodness there are a few manufacturers that make headrests for popular HermanMiller chairs like Aeron and Embody. I would be willing to pay $200-300 more if HermanMiller made their own headrest. They are losing money by not doing this.
Full retail definitely. Guy on Marketplace not far from me has a Steelcase chair that he bought last chair for $1700, had it on Marketplace for $800 and hasn't sold yet. That's a hell of a pill to swallow losing that much. In contrast I bought my used Embody for $600 and can sell it probably for $600 in a few hours.
@@btodtvThe Embody is going nowhere mainly because it looks cool, it will just end up in another part of the house. It would sell fast, I sold my Fern the same day I listed it, the guy even made his wife drive an hour to come get it. lol. In a side note, today is a good Embody day, been liking it today so far. 😂
The UA-cam Algorithm knows I like office chairs...I guess they got me good. Right after that video I learned how to get our first 100 subs on UA-cam 😂 -Greg
looks comfy but the overall aesthetic of the chair is kind of ass... especially for that price point. but to be fair, all these expensive ass ergonomic chairs all look ugly as fuck.
I thought this chair company was small and was kinda cheap. Saw the 2k+ price tag and i fainted. Nope I'll buy a hermin miller aeron. I like the options about this chair tho.
I have a hip condition (fairly minor) but it causes a fair bit of ache now and then, and I have been looking for a chair with Pelvic support for ages! This is definitely now on my radar
I've been waiting on BTOD's coverage of this chair.
So, it seems like a chair still largely "in flux"; it's not finalized.
I see little incentive to order it for the foreseeable future.
Please do cover it once it's in a more finalized and complete state.
I've had my Anthros chair for a couple of days now and it is great. I have lower back and tailbone pain and this chair definitely reduces my pain.
Yikes ~$2400 for their all black basic version, because customizing the back panels or changing to white costs a ridiculous ~$160 each, with synthetic leather instead of cloth, so you don't overheat, as recommended in the video. Way more expensive than a Herman Miller Embody or Steelcase Leap.
I guess if it really truly is that much better than its competition in terms of comfort it's worth it for those with neck & back issues but Im highly skeptical.
Hard to disagree with your points, especially across a wider group of people. I'm not sure this chair is ready for mainstream or if it ever will be. We will find that out over a longer time period. Anything with a $2,400 price tag will limit the scope of people who can/will even consider it.
If you have chronic back issues, I can see this being a really solid option now, since you've likely invested way more than the cost of this chair to solve back pain already. If it doesn't solve the issue, they can always return it.
If you constantly bottom out on chairs, with your sit bones pushing through to seat shell/frame, this is also another option, with their domed seat pad/shell design. The back two thirds of the seat are very comfortable for me, but the front third is a work in progress.
If you're just looking for a nice ergonomic chair, I'd probably wait for the update we give on the new seat pad and arm changes. This in my opinion will have the potential to push it closer to those top tier chairs for a wider audience.
-Greg
@@btodtv I'll be keeping an eye out for the update as my aging mother might need something like this sadly.
@@btodtv No way as a fledgling company will they be able to pull off these prices. Not only are the established players cheaper, they also regularly have discounts in addition to being able to get them used.
It is certainly expensive. But, you know what’s more expensive? A bad back.
I have been eyeing this chair for some time now and waiting for an honest review. Based on this review I will be waiting for the improvements you have suggested. I also shared the same sentiments as another commenter that they are a start-up pricing themselves to compete with established companies with a product that needs to be refined and they have not earned a reputation yet to justify the price. Seems like it will be a great chair once they get the kinks worked out and I look forward to another review once revisions are made. I would also like to see how it works for different heights, and if price point is justifiable compared to other chairs. From all the research I have done, this would compete well in the $800-$900 Range but the $1800-$2500 just seems like there are better and more established companies to choose from.
There's no way this chair should go down to the 800-900$ range. Tooling, molding and just the amount of weight and material. That plus the overall quality would land it at $1,500 at the very LEAST along with Herman Miller and Haworth options as a boutique type of option.
@@EzFightGGI had the chance to sit in one and was disappointed. It’s definitely not as refined as a Herman Miller or Steelcase, and there claims to fit up to 6’8” just isn’t true. I am 6’6” and the seat was too short and I couldn’t get the low back pad to adjust comfortably. I really wanted to like it but just couldn’t… They may also want to look at offering a larger size for people over 5’9”.
@@sixteenlevel that's the average start up behaviour, it should sound huge alarm bells when a start up whose first chair prototype couldn't even swivel claims it's better than well stablished brands and is offering a overpriced product
I was wondering when would they cover this one
My comment would be that moving around in the chair isn't important for everyone. I thought it would be cos you guys and Ahnestly make quite a big deal about it, but I've found personally in my embody that i don't really utilise the backrest movement it allows much. Which is handy cus the gaming embody is pretty loud.
I have a hard time trusting Ahnestly after he recommended getting a used chair and lying about being the original owner to get the warranty. Like I get the why but that's not an honest move.
@@Lockke_frankly a lot of chair brands talk a big game about how "sustainable" they are but make user repairs unfeasible, expensive, or outright impossible. Claiming a warranty that isn't yours from a company that, will not notice the difference in order to keep a product out of landfill and someone with less money sitting healthy is a good thing in my opinion. So until brands like steelcase or Herman miller put their money where their mouths are, I wouldn't feel bad about a warranty claim.
How old is your Gaming Embody? They don't make that noise any more on newer ones. Mine is dead silent.
@@Lockke_ You comment makes no sense. The company is trying to get out of honoring the warranty using ownership as a technicality, he's telling you to not tell them you are not the original owner so you can get the warranty that should still be in effect and was paid for because it's built into the cost of the chair. The only person that could possibly be mad at that is someone who works for a chair company. LOL So which one do you work for?
@@Krackerjaxthey most certainly do. You got lucky. Its production date is under a year ago.
Very cool that you guys directly influenced this chair and its features, like the warranty.
Unrelated, and I know I'm not the first to say it, but since you guys take ergonomics so seriously, you might want to look into minimalist/zero-drop shoes.
I bought this chair after watching this video, and it arrived this week. What an amazing chair. The total experience from purchase to setup to now was top-notch. This chair is a true game-changer for someone with the posture of a snail like me. This is the chair to beat in my mind. I currently have 4 others chairs in my office because I could never get rid of my ailments. I can’t wait to see how much better I feel in a few months. Thanks for this great video!
update?
update? x2
It’s still so good. I love everything about it and it’s helped my posture a ton. It’s pricey, but so worth it.
@@thomasbarr7037 did you happen to get the 4 or 5 castor wheel design?
@@GandaBaer I got the 5 caster model. It swivels exactly like any other office chair.
They aren't too far from me, next time I go to Grand Rapids to visit friends maybe I will stop by and see if I can try one out. That's a big problem with a lot of these chairs, really aren't accessible for people to test out. Even the authorized dealers for a lot of these high end chairs don't even have all the models on hand.
Unfortunately, they don't have anywhere easy to visit in Grand Rapids. That is the factory where it is being built, but they don't have a showroom, since they do not own the space. The best bet is checking with local Relax The Back stores or the Authorized Retailer in Waukesha, WI -Greg
It's worth noting that this company seems to be a start-up. For an asking price that high, I would seriously question if Anthros will be around for 12 years to handle your warranty. Not saying they'll just "take the bag and run" of course, but the floor can fall out from beneath these organizations all the time.
Definitely agree, you should always be a cautious with start ups. I hope they are successful long term, because they are trying to make a difference in the category. None of the alternative DTC brands have brought much of significance to the table IMO.
-Greg
Y'all gonna do the newtral magic H Pro?
so for if u had unlimited budget which chair would be the best for at lest 10h in everyday ?
This will be great if the recline can be done without the seat tilting. You can lock the seat and the backrest only moves.
We purposely don't offer recline because it induces shear and increased pressure into the buttocks while also making it difficult to maintain a proper seated posture.
I like pelvic support, it's better than lumbar for me. Very cool to see another really good chair being made! Thumbs up.
It is really nice, but takes some time to adjust -Greg
Is a base with three legs too prone to tipping or why is it not used?
Tipping and being able to support all of the weight -Greg
Video suggestion: How about doing a video showing the best chairs with swing-up arms?
You should do a video on the Colamy Executive Big and Tall 500 lbs capacity office chair..
You seem, on the fence with this chair. Seat pad looks plush though!
Great review, guys!
Thanks so much! -Greg
Great video guys! Could you please tell me where I can get one of those brown desk mats featured in this video?
They are on Amazon. There are so many and they are almost all identical ua-cam.com/video/Bhi9L2ktRKA/v-deo.html -Greg
Thanks!@@btodtv
Sticking with my proven Herman Miller Embody.
Wish it had headrest
Anyone else frustrated that it only goes down to 17 inches? I really need something that goes down to 15 inches, I don’t do well in foot rests. I can’t seem to find a chair that fits me.
15” is a tough ask. You are going to need to look into specialty chairs for something that low. -Ryan
@@btodtvWhoops, I meant 15.5 inches, that's the best height for me. Do you know of any chairs? I've been really struggling to find something that works and through my research have not found many options, when you say specialty chairs, do you mean a custom chair?
Leap and Aeron size A are the only ones I can think of that aren't specialty chairs. By specialty chairs, I mean chairs designed for petite or little people. -Ryan
A CHAIR WITH A BRAIN
@$2157 minimum + tax and fees... It's real expensive to the point of ridiculous...
Sat in this chair at a store. Seemed cheaply built for 2k. Didn’t seem any more solid than a serta chair…I thought the seat was too small and the material on the seat was not flat on it, leather or cloth which I found odd. You can push it down, there was air between the fabric and padding. No thanks.
Sorry to hear, the chair comes with a 12 year warranty and is tested to the highest industry standards. The cover design to allow the fabric to move independently from the foam is intentional. This prevents unnecessary pressure and shear that often causes discomfort and poor posture. This design comes from data and evidence gathered in an effort to create the lowest pressure cushion on the market.
I'm not sure it's comfort is in which tier, but I"m 100% sure the price is S-tier, maybe god-tier
I refuse to buy any chair that doesn't have a head rest option.
why
I tried this chair the other day and I honestly felt this was the least comfortable chair I have ever been in and that is not hyperbole. Even after "dialing it in" it was painfully rigid and uncomfortable. I was really sold by their marketing but I hated this chair. And the build quality was very poor relative to the price.
Where did you get the opportunity to test? Could help others who want to do the same, since it's a big ticket item.
I can understand that for sure, especially based on my own experience. The four star base and original upper back felt like it locked you in too much. More similar to an Aeron, then say a Leap or Embody.
Now it is a bit of hybrid, with the upper back moving/pivoting some and the seat still keeping you locked in. The next iteration with a waterfall front edge for the seat pan and the arm pad improvement should help even more.
As far as build quality, it is equal to any of the top of the line options from Herman Miller and Steelcase IMO. We've seen a ton of chairs and it is at the top of list from a build standpoint.
-Greg
@@btodtv The "Relax the Back" stores in Las Vegas and SoCal have them. Slight disclaimer in that my proportions make finding a comfortable chair difficult. I am 5'9" but with a 27" inseam. So I need a chair that is lower to the ground and has a shorter seat depth. But because of my tiny legs, my torso is long so I sit around 6'1 to 6"2 (average inseam for 5'9" is 30") so I have issues then with the back and need a taller back. This could easily explain the difficulty. However, most chairs just "don't fit" where the Anthros was actively painful. For almost all of my life I have just sat at the edge of a chair with feet planted which is ergonomic.
@p6202 That is unfortunate that you didn't have a great experience being "fit" for the chair. Although we don't pretend to be the chair for every person, in every instance, I would guess that the chair was not properly set up for you. If the chair was painful, that is a major red flag that it was setup in a manner than was too aggressive. We offer free posture consultations with licensed therapists that will gladly meet with you (or any other customer) who might have needed some tweaking. As much as we attempt to train our retail partners, sometimes the decades of seating expertise doesn't flow through the the local sales rep. We appreciate you giving it a try and hope we get another chance and have one of our therapists give you a look. thanks!
ur bugging that chair costs 2157..... without the premium features
the price is unreal
Yes, it is not cheap -Greg
With all that Anthros affiliate money coming in you'd think Greg could at least get a hair cut now. Christ....
Don't know what kool-aid these companies drink but I would not buy a chair that does not have a headrest. Thank goodness there are a few manufacturers that make headrests for popular HermanMiller chairs like Aeron and Embody. I would be willing to pay $200-300 more if HermanMiller made their own headrest. They are losing money by not doing this.
Chair is too expensive for what it is
Full retail definitely. Guy on Marketplace not far from me has a Steelcase chair that he bought last chair for $1700, had it on Marketplace for $800 and hasn't sold yet. That's a hell of a pill to swallow losing that much. In contrast I bought my used Embody for $600 and can sell it probably for $600 in a few hours.
I want to test that theory :) Mostly because you aren't sure if you love it yet! -Greg
@@btodtvThe Embody is going nowhere mainly because it looks cool, it will just end up in another part of the house. It would sell fast, I sold my Fern the same day I listed it, the guy even made his wife drive an hour to come get it. lol. In a side note, today is a good Embody day, been liking it today so far. 😂
1:52 *champing ;)
It can be said both ways....according to the internet lol -Greg
2,157 dollars 🤯
What kind of person watches anything Gary Vee in 2023/2024...? That's embarrassing...
The UA-cam Algorithm knows I like office chairs...I guess they got me good. Right after that video I learned how to get our first 100 subs on UA-cam 😂 -Greg
Is their website a bitcoin miner or what's going on 🤣
Promo sm
The lumbar needs to be adjustable up/down. This is a dumb design.
Watch the review, that’s not a lumbar support
It’s not lumbar man lol
looks comfy but the overall aesthetic of the chair is kind of ass... especially for that price point. but to be fair, all these expensive ass ergonomic chairs all look ugly as fuck.
are you buying a chair as a decoration, or for comfort? lol
@@shamrock7599 both would be nice... why cant we have both?
please Get the accurate map of India
I thought this chair company was small and was kinda cheap. Saw the 2k+ price tag and i fainted. Nope I'll buy a hermin miller aeron. I like the options about this chair tho.