Ten Minute History - World War 2: Free and Vichy France (Short Documentary)

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  • @TheJMBon
    @TheJMBon 3 роки тому +1590

    3:31 It's not running away, it's rapidly advancing in a different direction.

    • @writerconsidered
      @writerconsidered 3 роки тому +65

      This is what I live for reading the comment section. Sounds very monty python ish.

    • @ivannaharmoni
      @ivannaharmoni 3 роки тому +10

      😂😂😂😂

    • @YS-pb5nc
      @YS-pb5nc 3 роки тому +18

      Tactical retreat*

    • @AlexEvanScott
      @AlexEvanScott 3 роки тому +54

      They didn't lose, they merely failed to win!

    • @paulaharrisbaca4851
      @paulaharrisbaca4851 2 роки тому +1

      "A bold retreat..."

  • @mankytoes
    @mankytoes 5 років тому +8922

    "So de Gaulle would achieve his dream of liberating Paris on the 25th of August 1944"- incredible that he had the exact date in his dreams.

    • @TheFiresloth
      @TheFiresloth 5 років тому +1673

      De Gaulle orchestrated the whole war from the start just to be able to do it.

    • @fulcrum2951
      @fulcrum2951 5 років тому +74

      Wait what?

    • @detachsoup6061
      @detachsoup6061 5 років тому +55

      mankytoes actually he didnt, he waited for 4 months to acomplish his dream

    • @DeltaEchoGolf
      @DeltaEchoGolf 4 роки тому +66

      Must have learned that from Stalin. Without the enormous loss of life of course.

    • @whydoweHistory
      @whydoweHistory 4 роки тому +76

      I love to see the french news reels of the libaration parades when the french soldiers come in, can you guess what evey vehicle is hmmmmmm???? Thats right allied vehicles with french markings.

  • @kingusernamelxixthemagnificent
    @kingusernamelxixthemagnificent 5 років тому +10501

    1936. and you have just started your Hoi4 campaign.

    • @josephinestalime3094
      @josephinestalime3094 5 років тому +210

      Lol

    • @HistoryMatters
      @HistoryMatters  5 років тому +4492

      I was asked by someone to make a mod which replaces the portraits in game with the drawings I use here.

    • @AgentWash
      @AgentWash 5 років тому +1025

      @@HistoryMatters Do it!...Please?

    • @BoosterGauche
      @BoosterGauche 5 років тому +617

      @@HistoryMatters I know you say you can't draw, but you are now officially an artist.

    • @A_annoying_rodent
      @A_annoying_rodent 5 років тому +427

      @@Erik-ko6lh that literally goes for all events.
      Taking kiev and you see stalin Holding a "you really suck at this" sign and a russian general holding a sign with "how about you stop killing your generals"
      Or when nanjing is taken, a chinese soldier looking angrily holding a "wtf japan?" Sign while looking at the camera.

  • @jameslawrie3807
    @jameslawrie3807 3 роки тому +377

    A bit of extra context; The Maginot Line (actually a deep defended zone covering France's main industrial area) was *supposed* to be continued along the Belgian frontier but Belgium backed out of the agreement after the French had started the line.
    Secondly, the Dutch and Belgians stopped being neutral and begged the allies for help immediately after a serious amount of large grey vehicles bearing German number plates appeared at their border and the allies pushed up to link up with them, thinning their line and so they decided to thicken this line where good tank country was thus making the Ardennes not such a dumb oversight. It didn't help the Dutch retreating in the other direction while not actually informing the French who were still trying to link with them, making the French push diffused just where the Germans were concentrated. Thus they got hit in two weak areas at once, something that hadn't happened for the entire Great War.

    • @phlm9038
      @phlm9038 3 роки тому +30

      Yep, the biggest mistake was made by Gamelin when he decided to send the excellent XVth Army of General Giraud to the Netherlands. In March 1940 the XVth army was located on the way that Guderian was going to take in May 1940.

    • @goofygrandlouis6296
      @goofygrandlouis6296 Рік тому

      @@phlm9038 Gamelin was an idiot.
      I've heard that today's French cadets are warned to never be a "Gamelin", ie indecisive and out-of-touch.

    • @Al_the_destroyer
      @Al_the_destroyer 4 місяці тому +1

      More than a bit

  • @oorrossie
    @oorrossie 5 років тому +1471

    0:03-0:10 literally choose any moment in French history and this is still a true statement.

    • @lepangolin4080
      @lepangolin4080 4 роки тому +48

      Nice ignorance about french history.

    • @oorrossie
      @oorrossie 4 роки тому +151

      Le Pangolin My comment is meant as more of a joke at france’s propensity towards big protests (e.g. burning tires on roads, pulling up parts of roads, driving farm animals through Paris, firemen setting themselves on fire and fighting police etc..) rather than as an attack on France. I know that France is of course generally a great nation to live haha 😁.

    • @reds.victim1023
      @reds.victim1023 4 роки тому +21

      Not true. The Fifth French Republic (the current one) isn't as unstable as the previous two.

    • @oorrossie
      @oorrossie 4 роки тому +26

      Red S. Victim read my above comment. It’s a joke mon ami 😁🥰

    • @reds.victim1023
      @reds.victim1023 4 роки тому +3

      @@oorrossie Of course.

  • @Erik-ko6lh
    @Erik-ko6lh 5 років тому +3885

    Paris only burns on the weekend now days.

    • @claymore484
      @claymore484 5 років тому +8

      Voltaire of Paris yellow vest of course

    • @ryanxm3237
      @ryanxm3237 5 років тому +12

      Voltaire of Paris ah, bad timing to read this now

    • @petersantos6395
      @petersantos6395 5 років тому +18

      No it also burns on the weekdays

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 5 років тому +43

      Ironically not even Hitler managed to burn Paris.

    • @happyguardsman8510
      @happyguardsman8510 5 років тому

      @@JonatasAdoM
      What

  • @Astatine95
    @Astatine95 5 років тому +3151

    7:02
    -You're not in charge
    -lol Polio

    • @MaxTheCat-eh5ts
      @MaxTheCat-eh5ts 5 років тому +98

      AstatPanSkoczyslaw top 10 anime battles

    • @finnishguy4002
      @finnishguy4002 5 років тому +150

      *Top 10 anime comebacks*

    • @polandball4701
      @polandball4701 5 років тому +2

      XD

    • @lizrathburn8603
      @lizrathburn8603 5 років тому +166

      The most innacurate thing is that roosevelt walked to that argument

    • @Kabutoes
      @Kabutoes 5 років тому +89

      30 years later
      De guaulle: I’m leaving NATO and you will remove your troops from French soil
      LBJ: and the ones buried in the western front too?

  • @captaincanuck4576
    @captaincanuck4576 3 роки тому +313

    "where they bravely ran away"...
    The dry humor,deadpan style delivery,and the accent makes your jokes just perfect.

    • @BFVK
      @BFVK 2 роки тому +2

      Ok, but what did you learn ? In your mind, finally, what was the attitude of brit soldiers ? "ran away"... the joke is the irony on the word "bravely"... but your brain remember "ran away" as the historic statement.
      Brits didn't "ran away", this joke create a fasle view of historic reality

  • @davidthewhale7556
    @davidthewhale7556 5 років тому +2718

    4:12
    That is literally every French person’s worst nightmare

  • @amphoramorph2856
    @amphoramorph2856 5 років тому +5710

    “The British retreated to Dunkirk where they then bravely ran away”

  • @rootentootenbluebucko25
    @rootentootenbluebucko25 5 років тому +3594

    Nice to see a surprisingly overlooked topic within the Second World War being covered by someone. The French theatre doesn’t get the attention it deserved just because France capitulated early.

    • @Some_Guy_In_Ohio
      @Some_Guy_In_Ohio 5 років тому +208

      Agreed. There's a reason for the French collapse in WW2, and the situation in France between WW1 and WW2 was the main reason for that. Additionally, France & Britain's behavior during early WW2 is borderline despicable (especially whats was effectively abandonment of the Czechs, Poles, and Finns).

    • @blankblank7016
      @blankblank7016 5 років тому +10

      deep down would attack Germany forts with so little free manpower

    • @Erreul
      @Erreul 5 років тому +22

      I am 100% they get the attention they deserve.

    • @mrcaboosevg6089
      @mrcaboosevg6089 5 років тому +120

      @@Some_Guy_In_Ohio Britain and France lost millions in WW1, the people running both nations remembered that all too well and didn't want a repeat of the same waste of life. Britain and France were just avoiding making the war real, in reality there's very little they could have done to help in Eastern Europe... Also have to remember with Poland the USSR invaded too so anything the British or French did would have been an act of war against the USSR, the USSR wasn't really a threat to either nation but if the Soviets did join the Germans in that event it would have been troublesome for the British fighting alone

    • @mrcaboosevg6089
      @mrcaboosevg6089 5 років тому +18

      @Einytkeksinynimee Yes but no one thought Germany would do what it did, even Germans didn't think they would do what they did. When you're being shat on from a great height humans will eventually just run out of things to lose, like Venezuela now

  • @michaelmilburn911
    @michaelmilburn911 5 років тому +4208

    Interesting how France was a defeated power and the free French fought the Vichy French, a bit like a civil war

    • @quantumtree9276
      @quantumtree9276 5 років тому +216

      Always like that in my HOI4 campaign lol

    • @ithadtobeaname7327
      @ithadtobeaname7327 5 років тому +515

      It was a civil war.
      Same goes for Italy

    • @MaxTheCat-eh5ts
      @MaxTheCat-eh5ts 5 років тому +11

      Michael Milburn who surrenders

    • @Stalysfa
      @Stalysfa 5 років тому +339

      Michael Milburn it actually was a civil war to some extent. There were various fightings between French in Africa. De gaulle’s forces would try to take control of colonies under petain’s control by invading them. Sometimes there would be résistances from Vichy.
      When libération of France started. There was a massive movement of the population to execute in the street anyone who had collaborated with the Germans. You may find very disturbing footages of this on UA-cam.

    • @fuzzydunlop7928
      @fuzzydunlop7928 5 років тому +138

      World War 2 often seemed like an amalgamation of Civil Wars. Italy's Civil War was much the same experience, but in reverse.

  • @angusmcogitaly
    @angusmcogitaly 5 років тому +704

    Finally someone that talks about facts, society and politics and doesn't just shrink history to war and weaponry... good job!

    • @robc4191
      @robc4191 3 роки тому +9

      France had crappy weaponry, so...

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims 3 роки тому +10

      Except those things are frankly more important
      While one can boil something stupid like “the French did not anticipate the Germans going through the (Ardennes)” which isn’t true either, it would be better to explain that these were the first tier German forces fighting reservist ‘fortress’ infantry who barely had training and had equipment older than some of their soldiers

    • @robertrichard6107
      @robertrichard6107 2 роки тому

      The Maginot Line was actually compromised early on before the war but was pointed to by politicians as impenetrable. Germans went through lowlands again just like WWI.

    • @chiracultrainstinct3d629
      @chiracultrainstinct3d629 2 роки тому +13

      @@robc4191 France had the best army in the world before the war… better tanks than Germany, good and modern ships and a decent aviation

    • @wojteks4712
      @wojteks4712 2 роки тому

      It's sad that 'pacifist' movement worked to the advantage of most brutal militarized regime and in the end French army and resources actively helped Hitler's war effort against other nations. Thanks lefty pacifists!
      And France didn't learn mich from their disgraceful WW2 history - pushing to appease another aggressive dictatorship (Russia) in the name of peace...

  • @portknoxx7
    @portknoxx7 5 років тому +64

    Tbh, this is the most accurate representation of history I have ever seen. The facts, the diction, syntax, and word play is ridiculous, and the animation is tremendous. This not only brings the raw facts w/ relevant context, but poses the proper questions which do a public service by stimulating analytical, consequential, cognitive thinking

  • @raymondlouie512
    @raymondlouie512 5 років тому +586

    "They also took the Netherlands because why not?"
    ahhh... historical actions are now sounding funny but back then not so much

    • @1345-v2e
      @1345-v2e 5 років тому +15

      They never annexed the Netherlands or Belgium. Just occupation because of it's strategical importance against the British/French empire(which had declared war against Germany). Get a clue. Same goes for the maker(s) of this video.

    • @ProjectEkerTest33
      @ProjectEkerTest33 4 роки тому +71

      @@1345-v2e You'll excuse us if indefinite occupation and annexation sound fairly similar. Also yeah Britain and France declared war on Germany but they did it defend Poland which Germany had just invaded so since they were joining as allies of the Polish (as they'd both guaranteed their independence) technically they were on the defending side. Also why did Germany need to occupy the Netherlands? The Netherlands were neutral and weren't even necessary to get to France the way Belgium and Luxembourg were.

    • @hephaestus9901
      @hephaestus9901 4 роки тому +37

      @@1345-v2e lol what do we have here a nazi sympathizer.Very intresting,let me guess the holocaust also didnt happen.

    • @wallachia4797
      @wallachia4797 4 роки тому +9

      If the allies wanted to defend Poland then they wouldn''t had traded it for Greece at the end of WW2 and would've kicked the Soviet's asses as we all fought so hard to.

    • @korpiklaaniband2277
      @korpiklaaniband2277 4 роки тому +2

      Huh? I’m not sure what you mean. Anyways, Greece had a civil war between the government and communist rebels. The government was supported by the British and crushed the rebel forces

  • @chloeomg3021
    @chloeomg3021 5 років тому +1503

    This channel is so under rated

    • @galaxyred7
      @galaxyred7 5 років тому +10

      uh wot why are you here then?

    • @mikebather6688
      @mikebather6688 5 років тому +5

      Galaxy Red to check out the channel duh

    • @im.koyami
      @im.koyami 4 роки тому +8

      Galaxy Red do you even know what underrated means

    • @galaxyred7
      @galaxyred7 3 роки тому +4

      Uh wait I have no memory of typing that lol. That probably wasn’t me either since I never say ‘wot’ in my texts, my best friend does. I obviously know what underrated means.

    • @CJM-rg5rt
      @CJM-rg5rt 3 роки тому

      I process and retain things by thinking about them but he's so fast that I abandon things and the cycle goes on. ADD I guess is the nice way of saying it.

  • @hanspetrich6520
    @hanspetrich6520 5 років тому +459

    Finally someone covered this topic. This has been shrugged off wait too often as simply "lol France capitulate" and that's it. Especially the Political instability in France before the war is incredibly unknown to many people. A great video.

    • @robertrichard6107
      @robertrichard6107 4 роки тому +10

      That's about what I think too. Nothing was simplistic. Paris was a major domicile of culture even through WWI. Best concise explanations where you could stop and go deeper with a good reference point. The City of Light was left more or less untouched.

    • @robertrichard6107
      @robertrichard6107 4 роки тому +2

      That's about what I think too. Nothing was simplistic. Paris was a major domicile of culture even through WWI. Best concise explanations where you could stop and go deeper with a good reference point. The City of Light was left more or less untouched.

    • @alexandrebertrand1069
      @alexandrebertrand1069 4 роки тому +25

      To be fair, political instability seem to be the rule in our country. Ironically, it seems that the leaders the french likes the most are always the most authoritative ones (Louis XIV, Napoléon, De Gaulle).

    • @roberttbrockway
      @roberttbrockway 4 роки тому +10

      @@alexandrebertrand1069 fair point. AFAIK the 5th Republic has more authority invested in a single person (the president) and it has been more stable than previous French republics.

    • @mrronron7328
      @mrronron7328 3 роки тому +13

      @@alexandrebertrand1069 French didn't like Louis XIV back in the day, Napoleon is liked because he saved France, who was at the verge of collapsing. Charles de Gaulles wasn't authoritarian at all btw

  • @jamestang1227
    @jamestang1227 5 років тому +552

    Just a correction: A German advance into the Ardennes was taken to account in the general plan and a couple war games. The French expected the Germans could get through the forest in a bout 60 hours (which they did IRL) but thought they would be able to spot said advance with aircraft and other means. Unfortunately they weren't able to spot the German advance until to late and the cream of the German army was facing poorly-equipped second-rate French troops.

    • @nizla7322
      @nizla7322 5 років тому +63

      ​@Nub93 The french did not ignored entirely the spot of german tank into the Ardennes. They just made the assumption that the force in the Ardennes were not the main force of the German Army (which it was). And there downfall was to concentrate their army in the north to try keep the netherlands army into the fight because they needed the low countries manpower. Bot side made a bet, the french loosed. They never expected the Netherlands would surrender that quickly neither that the german would have take such a risk of putting much of their mechanized force through the ardennes without much infantry support.
      And the following counter-attack battle were huge miscommunication between english and french high-command where british officer did not want to commit everything to protect France and French morale was very low.
      To show this communication problems between the 2 high-commands just look at the Battle of Arras. The English officers in charge of the offensive told the French Airforce to support the attack without providing informations about the attack-front, the target or the hour of the attacks. When they tried to contact the RAF Headquarter for information the base was out of service because the RAF were already retreating back into England. French reconnaissance aircraft were shoot down very easily after that. it just one example but the whole battle of France was just a huge failure in communications and cooperation between british and french high-command.
      In the end, when the british decided to retreat back to England. France could not support a counter attack alone to force the german panzer corps to retreat and were force to help the british in their rush to Calais for retreating back.

    • @ericlanglois9194
      @ericlanglois9194 5 років тому +23

      It was widely believed by the French High Command that the Ardennes, which is primarily dense forest with some marches strewn about, could not be crossed by a sufficient force as to be a credible threat. If anything, only a small scouting force would be capable of crossing such harsh and rugged terrain... As history shows us though, they believed incorrectly.

    • @BajanEnglishman51
      @BajanEnglishman51 4 роки тому +1

      James Tang wtf is this Info sounds like you got this from some shitty propaganda source

    • @harshbansal7982
      @harshbansal7982 4 роки тому +3

      @@BajanEnglishman51 bruh what . It’s true . Are you a wehraboo or some shit ?

    • @stephen10.
      @stephen10. 3 роки тому +2

      Bajan Roblox do you learn history from youtube comments or from serious teacher at the university ?

  • @gyanmarcorole
    @gyanmarcorole 4 роки тому +231

    3:39 Neville Chamberlain dying in the background.

    • @PANZERFAUST90
      @PANZERFAUST90 4 роки тому +2

      ROFL

    • @capncake8837
      @capncake8837 4 роки тому +4

      I didn’t catch that.

    • @Boxmediaphile
      @Boxmediaphile 4 роки тому +9

      He died of cancer and even if he didn’t resign he would of died in office

  • @Edmonton-of2ec
    @Edmonton-of2ec 4 роки тому +253

    0:05 French politics can still be described as a dumpster fire. What’s your point?

    • @narangacorp.7937
      @narangacorp.7937 4 роки тому +10

      I'm french and I totally agree x)

    • @samrevlej9331
      @samrevlej9331 4 роки тому +40

      Nah. Compared to the 30s, French politics now is a walk in the park. There were actual assassination attempts then, horrendous antisemitism, and an attempt at a fascist coup in 1934 by far-right leagues. Conservatives love to complain about strikes, but back then they were a lot more intense.

    • @paoloredondo7309
      @paoloredondo7309 4 роки тому +5

      Yeah they were a disaster! And Britain abandoned the French at Ww2

    • @YourLocalMairaaboo
      @YourLocalMairaaboo 4 роки тому +2

      The flames were higher then.

    • @noahkarpinski1824
      @noahkarpinski1824 3 роки тому +5

      @@samrevlej9331 Nowadays you have to come to America for attempted fascist coups

  • @DanielgtaLaw
    @DanielgtaLaw 5 років тому +651

    Napoleon's portrait is replaced by De Gaulle's portrait at 7:56
    Edit: 7:57 lol

    • @Mercure250
      @Mercure250 5 років тому +47

      I mean... fair enough; de Gaulle became the new symbol of the country, and a lot of Gaullist ideals are very close to Bonapartist ideals. I've even heard some say Gaullists are the successors of Bonapartists.

    • @CarvaxIV
      @CarvaxIV 5 років тому +3

      It makes sense. The guy was a massive megalomaniac.

    • @shou9246
      @shou9246 4 роки тому

      Paul Bartel LOL

    • @arro2546
      @arro2546 4 роки тому +6

      3:52 for reference

  • @ravenlord4
    @ravenlord4 5 років тому +575

    Brave Sir Robin ran away
    Bravely ran away away
    When danger reared its ugly head
    He bravely turned his tail and fled
    Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
    And gallantly he chickened out

    • @robbielewis4740
      @robbielewis4740 5 років тому +18

      I litterally just watched Monty Python and the Holy grail in its entirety yesterday. SUCH A GOOD MOVIE.

    • @winstonho0805
      @winstonho0805 5 років тому +10

      3:31 "The British retreated at Dunkirk, where they then bravely ran away."

    • @811brian
      @811brian 5 років тому +10

      I DID NOT!

    • @rooseveltbrentwood9654
      @rooseveltbrentwood9654 5 років тому +4

      BC Nation and they were forced to eat Sir Robin’s minstrels, and there was much rejoicing.

    • @jonathandravis6013
      @jonathandravis6013 5 років тому +9

      Bravely bold Sir Robin, rode north from Camelot
      He was not afraid to die, oh brave Sir Robin!
      He was not at all afraid to be killed in nasty ways, brave brave brave brave Sir Robin.
      He was not in the least bit scared to be mashed into a pulp.
      Or to have his eyes gouged out, and his elbows broken. To have his knee caps split and his body burned away and his limbs all hacked and mangled brave Sir Robin!
      His head smashed in and his heart cut out and his liver removed and bowels unplugged and his nostrils raped and his bottom burnt off and his penis-
      That’s enough music for now lads.

  • @AFrenchman31
    @AFrenchman31 2 роки тому +35

    Fun fact: if you go to French town halls or government buildings, often there will be portraits of the various French leaders of the past. That is, until 1940, when there is big hole until 1945. As if these years did not exist

    • @Freedmoon44
      @Freedmoon44 11 місяців тому +4

      Thats not new
      The Kingdom of France also wished the revolution never existed after 1815

  • @jimmydu14200
    @jimmydu14200 3 роки тому +51

    Just to point out some important detail: Pétain was know as the hero of WW1, he was a great general back then. So when the French put him to rule, they hoped to see the dude who wanted to do a full military parade in Berlin after WW1 and not this shit.

  • @xessenceofinsanityx
    @xessenceofinsanityx 3 роки тому +232

    General Leclerc: Name a tank after me
    France: Names literally everything after him

    • @zefyrisd69
      @zefyrisd69 2 роки тому +11

      And yet it wasn't even his real name ^^"

    • @HyperVegitoDBZ
      @HyperVegitoDBZ 2 роки тому

      Especially a shop

    • @parodyclip36
      @parodyclip36 2 роки тому +10

      @@HyperVegitoDBZ The shop is named Leclerc only because the founder's name was also Leclerc ^^

    • @johncunningham6928
      @johncunningham6928 2 роки тому +1

      He was also incredibly incompetent at disguises...😜

    • @SgtMacska
      @SgtMacska 2 роки тому +23

      They even named an F1 driver after him

  • @warspite1995
    @warspite1995 5 років тому +3420

    bravely ran away hehehe love it.

    • @flemhawker9134
      @flemhawker9134 5 років тому +92

      warspite1995 as opposed to bravely doing nothing.

    • @robosoldier11
      @robosoldier11 5 років тому +86

      @@flemhawker9134 "I'm sorry friend I can't hear you over the fact I am getting farther and farther away the more I run in the opposite direction!" - the French in the fall of France

    • @epsilonjay4123
      @epsilonjay4123 5 років тому +117

      Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin! He bravely ran away away. Brave Sir Robin!

    • @tidusmi2
      @tidusmi2 5 років тому +52

      @@epsilonjay4123 Brave Brave Sir Britain, they bravely ran away.

    • @ourempires6457
      @ourempires6457 5 років тому +46

      @@robosoldier11 awwww anglos are mad

  • @RedditzGG
    @RedditzGG 4 роки тому +699

    "The French covered their retreat with Brutal and Bloody Fighting"
    Christopher Nolan: What is that???

    • @markgrehan3726
      @markgrehan3726 4 роки тому +1

      Siege of Calais

    • @Bercyable
      @Bercyable 4 роки тому +1

      Stupid question!

    • @markgrehan3726
      @markgrehan3726 4 роки тому +1

      @Lightning Kaiser Lol the one in 1940.

    • @038alpha
      @038alpha 3 роки тому +31

      Well the only soldiers you see fighting on the ground in the movie are the french

    • @parodyclip36
      @parodyclip36 3 роки тому +71

      @@038alpha You see them like 30 seconds ? How noble of him to show the French fighting in a France battle in a French city. Christopher Nolan truly is an amazing lad. Nah seriously the movie is great...for a fantasy movie

  • @gandalf_thegrey
    @gandalf_thegrey 3 роки тому +124

    Annexing the Sudetenland was a smart move.
    Afterwards Hitler could claim "Look at that border gore! I'll clean that mess up" and he immediately had international support because nobody wanted to look at a European map anymore.

    • @DrewPicklesTheDark
      @DrewPicklesTheDark Рік тому +13

      To be fair, the map of Europe right before WW2, with the exception of Poland having the Danzig corridor, actually looked pretty nice.

    • @theoneblock7107
      @theoneblock7107 Рік тому

      @@DrewPicklesTheDark Eh, Eastern Poland looked ugly and Albania should’ve been annexed into Yugoslavia

    • @Turkce_Oyun
      @Turkce_Oyun Рік тому +10

      Another batch of maps made obsolete.

    • @SportyMabamba
      @SportyMabamba 10 місяців тому +5

      @@Turkce_OyunBig Cartography promotes Wars to require production of new maps 😉

  • @jeffwoodland6508
    @jeffwoodland6508 2 роки тому +8

    The team at History Matters has a true gift for turning out short funny nuggets of history. Love this channel!

  • @mycar7945
    @mycar7945 3 роки тому +331

    I remember my grandpa telling me that when he found out France was being invaded, he cried and shat his pants. He was 1 year old.

    • @GRANOLA77
      @GRANOLA77 Рік тому +3

      Omg really?!?! Why do you think that was?

    • @zimriel
      @zimriel Рік тому +5

      I'm pretty sure most of us were doing that at age 12 months, bro

    • @percy6070
      @percy6070 Рік тому +10

      @zimriel that is the point of the joke

    • @whyyes6429
      @whyyes6429 10 місяців тому

      this is gold lmao the reply section is low fuckin iq

    • @Colon-D...
      @Colon-D... Місяць тому

      A true french patriot

  • @kejserrige
    @kejserrige 5 років тому +743

    3:31 Bravely ran away xD

    • @captinobvious4705
      @captinobvious4705 5 років тому +34

      Brave Sir Robin ran away

    • @Euan_Miller43
      @Euan_Miller43 5 років тому +2

      kejserrige it’s wrong ngl

    • @gtPacheko
      @gtPacheko 5 років тому +10

      The Joestar secret technique

    • @michaelschudlak1432
      @michaelschudlak1432 5 років тому +6

      Didn't you mean " They ran away like little girls".

    • @RichARock
      @RichARock 5 років тому +13

      @@michaelschudlak1432 They ran away because if they didn't the war would of ended and germany would of won

  • @kingusernamelxixthemagnificent
    @kingusernamelxixthemagnificent 5 років тому +416

    9:10
    I am pretty certain that Yugoslavia never joined the Warsaw Pact.

    • @themightyranger6321
      @themightyranger6321 5 років тому +11

      Ikr

    • @Timon-IrishFolk
      @Timon-IrishFolk 5 років тому +210

      I don't think the map is actually representing the two pacts but the general situation of the cold war

    • @Realkeepa-et9vo
      @Realkeepa-et9vo 5 років тому +91

      I think it's about capitalism/socialism, not specific alliances

    • @jakubpraznovsky8999
      @jakubpraznovsky8999 5 років тому +35

      They had an alliance with the Soviets but left it after an unsuccessful coup in Greece where the campaign got somehow heated between the Soviets and Yugoslavia although they were on the same side (I guess they couldn't agree on battle plans of a future for greece? Idk)

    • @kingusernamelxixthemagnificent
      @kingusernamelxixthemagnificent 5 років тому +26

      @@jakubpraznovsky8999 Yes,they were on the same side prior to 1948.
      Historian argue over what the true reason of the split was ,though most agree that Tito didn't want to be Stalin's puppet.
      Tito supported communists in Greece while Stalin objected due to agreement with the Allies.

  • @LadCarmichael
    @LadCarmichael 5 років тому +321

    To answer the questions at the end, it is pretty much agreed that nothing could be done more in 1940, the French were totally beaten and disorganized and had no chance against the highly modern and professional German Army, and resisting more would only have resulted in France being more devastated.
    To answer the second, the myth of "La France Résistante" (basically all the French were Resistant at least in their heart, and you know, totally didn't sell out their neighbors and Jews to the Germans, and like you said, even joined the Germans) was De Gaulles compromise to avoid everybody killing each other after the Liberation. Nowadays it is pretty much a consensus that De Gaulle promoted the best story for a fresh start by dumping all the responsibility on Vichy government and Pétain. Basically a scapegoat. And looking back at the fuckfest that was the 4th Republic, one wonders how it would have been without it. Eighty years later, all academics agree that the Collaboration was really alive and well even in the population despite people thinking that antisemitism magically disappeared with the Dreyfus Affair, but also that really most of the French just did nothing but live their everyday lives the best they could.

    • @nizla7322
      @nizla7322 5 років тому +24

      The French army was more modernised than the german in 1940. But sur it was completely disorganised and left alone against the germans. France had half the population of Germany and for sure it could not have sustained a war against Germany alone.
      And yes, "La France Résistante" was not as important as it was.

    • @RouGeZH
      @RouGeZH 5 років тому +24

      @@nizla7322 The French army was clearly NOT "more modernized".

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 5 років тому +14

      Andrew Roberts, an English popular "historian," claims that more Frenchmen fought alongside the Germans than fought against them during WWII. This would include all the colonial forces which stayed with the Vichy regime.
      More could have been said about the Vichy ideology: e.g. they abolished Liberty, Equality & Fraternity and promoted Family, Work and Nation instead. They still didn't let women vote.

    • @lsq7833
      @lsq7833 5 років тому +24

      @@faithlesshound5621 Your historian is an idiot. Vichy's armistice armed forces was 100 000 (and putting them in that bag is already a stretchl, the volunteers on the eastern front numbered around 7000 at the best period, meanwhile the free french forces that invaded Germany in 44-45 were over 1.5 millions, not even counting the various resistance cells for which accounting is iffy at best.
      Nobody voted under Vichy, and not allowing women to vote pre-war was done by the French left which saw women as under the influence of the Church.

    • @thezeitos469
      @thezeitos469 5 років тому +17

      @@faithlesshound5621 thats funny, because while the French mobilized Millions, the Brittish initially only send a few hundred thousand to France as far as I know.

  • @eastmeetswestpresents6923
    @eastmeetswestpresents6923 2 роки тому +16

    Fun fact: Reynaud was one of the non-military combatants who fought in the Battle of Castle Itter in 1945 - the one battle where German and American US soldiers fought on the same side; the man who helped him out in the Castle becoming a defender was Major Josef Gangl, a disillusioned Wehrmacht officer who helped Austrian resistance - and Gangl died protecting Reynaud

  • @colindaniels945
    @colindaniels945 10 місяців тому +12

    Slight correction:
    Pétain had actually been sentenced to death for collaborating with the Nazis,but De Gaulle would commute his sentence to life in prison on account of Pétain's age and past service to France, also Pétain was stripped of all his military titles/honors other than his title of Marshal Of France.
    After his conviction,Pétain's health went downhill and his sentence was further commuted to confinement to hospital.
    As De Gaulle said of Pétain after his death:
    "His life was successively banal, then glorious, then deplorable, but never mediocre".

    • @Bozothcow
      @Bozothcow 13 годин тому

      I believe de Gaulle said something of Petain along the lines of, "He was a great man who has not realized he has died," in the '30s.

  • @FredericGaillot
    @FredericGaillot 5 років тому +68

    Overall, this is a very good video, and thanks for taking the time to do all the research needed to bring a video of that quality. I would like to mention few things that seem to be wrong, overstated or forgotten:
    1/ attack on Gibraltar was conducted by italians, not french.
    2/ Maginot line was stopped at the Belgium border because Belgium asked for it, in order to protect its neutrality to Germany and France. That was a mistake, but not the intention for French to fight a battle in Belgium rather than Home !
    3/ In Belgium and then in Dunkerk the British were not alone. In Dunkerk for example, the British accounted for half of the troops present. The rest were french, dutch and belgium. French troops fought really hard and managed few successes (battle of Hannut, battle of Flavion/Stonne, battle of Moncornet). Nevertheless France accounted for 60,000 soliders deaths and 123,000 injured in 6 weeks, while UK lost 3,500 soliders in combat.
    4/ attack on Mers-El-Kébir in July 1940 was made by british on unarmed vessels. 1,207 sailors were killed by what was still at that time officially a friend ! In the entire WWII, the German troops never killed more than the number mentioned above. You can imagine this put a lot of scepticism when it came to find an agreement with the british later in the war !
    5/ You're mentioning several times volunteers fighting for Nazi Germany as this was major point in France at that time. This started only in March 1943, since SS considered German blood too pure to give opportunities to other nations to fight with them, and after the fall of the Vichy Regime. 2,500 men joined. In Autumn 1944, out of desperation, the SS opened their rank to more frenchmen. In total, between 8,500 and 9,000 of them served under German command. The first engagement of these troops was in February 1945 when they lost 2,000 men. The french were also involved in the defence of Berlin, but overall this is really a minor aspect of the war.
    6/ You're not mentioning FFL, which were the troops that served under General De Gaulle, as early as June 18th 1940. FFL reached a maximum of 53,000 on August 1st 1943 when they were incorporated in the regular army. They have been involved in El Alamein, in Syria and most important they stopped Romel in the desert at Bir Hakeim in May 1942. During 14 days, 3,723 frenchmen fought successfully against 37,000 German and Italians, killing, injuring or capturing 3,600 ennemies, destroying 51 tanks, 49 plans, and more than 100 vehicules. That's on the ground. On the sea, FNFL or Forces Naval Francaises Libres accounted for 12,500 sailors, 65 warships, 170 trading ships. These men were very active. For example, the corvet Aconit is the first boat in WWII that sunk 2 U Boat in the same day. At the end of the war, the largest vessel was the Richelieu, with nearly 1,500 men, served within the British Eastern Fleet against Japanese as the main vessel. The Richelieu participated to fights in Burma, Malaysia, and was in Singapore for the surrender of the Japanese garnison in Spetember 1945. In the air, 3,500 crewmen served under the RAF command, and thus provided 12 squadrons. From the occupied countries in Europe, only Poland contributed more squadrons. The Free French served not only in UK, but Africa, Middle East and most importantly in USSR. The Normandie-Niemen brigade, with 3 squadrons, supported USSR in the East Front as early as 1942 until the end of the war, involved in 5,240 flying missions, 869 figths, 273 certified victories plus 37 probable. FFL lost about 2,000 men.
    7/ In August 1943, the FFL are incorporated in the regular french army present in North Africa forming the AFL (Armée Française de Liberation) and reached 1,3 million active soldiers in 1945, including 200,000 resistants that joined the regular army during the campaign in France. All of that happened way after the Vichy collapsed in November 1942. These soldiers were involved against German and Italians in Tunisia in 1942, in the liberation of Corsica in 1943, then the invasion of Italy. They've demonstrated how useful they could be in Monte Casino and reaching Rome at the same time as the US forces on June 4th 1944. In August 1944, they represented more than half of the troops landing in south of France, fought hardly on Germans in Toulon and Marseille, and driving up north, meeting with the 1st Tank division which entered and liberated Paris. Later they stood firmed during the attack of the SS on Strasbourg. They managed to get into Germany and smashed the German units in the black forest, occupied Stuggart, and then turned south to reach Austria and the Fuhrer Nest in Berchtesgaden. The losses of the AFL is estimated at 74,300 men. Resistance got around 34,000 fighters deported who died in camps out of 86,000 who suffered deportation, and about 19,000 were simply killed in France by Wehrmacht or died under torture by the Gestapo. In total France lost more than 275,000 men and women fighting. That has to be compared with the 384,000 soldiers UK lost, as well as 417,000 soliders lost by the US on all front.
    As a conclusion, in 1945, Allied forces did not hesitate when it came to get the signature of the first German capitulation in France, in Reims, then getting J. De Lattre de Tassigny, to sign for France in BErlin the next day, then Philippe Leclerc de Hautecloque signing for France on the Missouri in Tokyo. In 1945 France got an occupation zone in Germany, in Austria and in Berlin. I'm sorry, but in France today, considering all these facts, no one can seriously say we have been hesitating side as a country, and the less than 2,000 frenchmen who died serving Nazi Germany cannot compare with more than 140 times that number who fought alongside allied powers.

    • @hizokadarkwolf
      @hizokadarkwolf 3 роки тому +13

      Interesting details, thanks for sharing

    • @DavidB5501
      @DavidB5501 2 роки тому +2

      *attack on Mers-El-Kébir in July 1940 was made by british on unarmed vessels. 1,207 sailors were killed by what was still at that time officially a friend ! In the entire WWII, the German troops never killed more than the number mentioned above. You can imagine this put a lot of scepticism when it came to find an agreement with the british later in the war*
      See my longer comment elsewhere. France was given many alternatives, but refused them all, and ignored the opportunity to get its crews to safety. Also, it is the first time I have seen it claimed that the main French battle fleet was 'unarmed vessels'.

  • @thisisacallforhelp3484
    @thisisacallforhelp3484 3 роки тому +7

    My French 1 teacher showed this video during a project on the revolution and thus, got me addicted to this channel.

  • @lcentaurel1718
    @lcentaurel1718 5 років тому +62

    Well ..... I'm french and it's one of the most successful videos about this theme I ever watched ...... You did a great job in 10min. congratulations ...... +1 Sub. :-)

  • @thibaudduhamel2581
    @thibaudduhamel2581 4 роки тому +19

    The liberation of France wasn’t really the end of the war for the french resistance. In order to prevent violence and potential civil war with competing bands of armed men roaming the countryside, the french resistance was incorporated in the french army. That permitted the french army to swell its ranks to 1.6 million men under arms under General de Lattre de Tassigny.

  • @alehaim
    @alehaim 4 роки тому +23

    From what I have found, it was known that the Germans could go through the Ardennes but the Allies didn't react quick enough. Also the Germans were taking a massive risk going through the Ardennes due to the formation of a massive traffic jam which could have been used to the allied advantage by bombing the tanks from air

  • @renebousfield602
    @renebousfield602 5 років тому +39

    A couple years ago I met a man who was an engineering student in Paris during the occupation. He said the German administration was going to send him to work in a periscope factory but he got a doctor to say that he had serious intestinal problems and could not travel. The Germans sent him home to recover and he promptly fled.

  • @danieloconnor1819
    @danieloconnor1819 5 років тому +8

    Recently discovered this channel, it's quickly risen to being my favourite history channel. Keep up the good work.

  • @omgpix
    @omgpix 5 років тому +24

    Something important at 6:21 that most will gloss over. After the Molotov Ribbentrop pact Communist groups did not actively resist in Hitler until he invaded the USSR and papa Stalin gave the OK. In fact the main Communist parties in the UK, France, Canada, and the US all *opposed* involvement in WW2 right up until Barbarossa.

    • @AYVYN
      @AYVYN Рік тому

      Never underestimate the power of one unemployed man's words

  • @Suijiro99
    @Suijiro99 4 роки тому +22

    I love how Switzerland is eating some popcorn while unbothered above the Alps.

  • @beejay_22
    @beejay_22 5 років тому +43

    7:56 LMAO replaced Napoleon's painting with Charles painting

  • @xaviersaavedra7442
    @xaviersaavedra7442 5 років тому +760

    Lol bravely ran away.

    • @druisteen
      @druisteen 5 років тому +2

      Dunkirk ?

    • @maximerunningandstuff8837
      @maximerunningandstuff8837 5 років тому +35

      He forgot dunkirk xD
      And btw in France we have an expression « filer a l’anglaise » wich means « run away lika an English »

    • @MajorMuffins13
      @MajorMuffins13 5 років тому +8

      druisteen Should we of let our Army get wiped out along with the French? All banter aside, it was necessary for Britain to have its Army. That same Army landed at Normandy four years later, and we also fought with and assisted resistance groups, and fought with Free French forces across the world. Sad state of affairs, but it all worked out in the end.

    • @Euan_Miller43
      @Euan_Miller43 5 років тому +6

      Dewoitine D.520 brits stayed behind and fought, and french troops escaped as well. The French were shit in the war the British army escaping allowed them to come back in June 44

    • @maximerunningandstuff8837
      @maximerunningandstuff8837 5 років тому +10

      Euan Miller Lol only 177 french soldiers landed on Beaches in June and you call that a save lmao
      During Dunkirk French protected English soldiers who were escaping and only few French soldiers were saved from there, all the others were killed by germans
      And btw during this battle French had 1 soldier for 10 germans ones :/
      Sometimes truth is hard English army saved by those weak ass Baguette eater

  • @earthenjadis8199
    @earthenjadis8199 4 роки тому +45

    De Gaulle is seen as haughty and imperious by Americans for claiming a pride and prestige that his reality couldn't match. But you have to understand why he acted the way he did - America dealt him a very rough hand. Instead of bringing him into the fold and treating him as a firm ally, they considered Vichy a viable choice and looked for alternatives to De Gaulle as a leader. In the end De Gaulle won through based mainly on his dogged determination.
    If you loved your country and had great pride in it but didn't have much power or influence and an ally you needed that was giving you the cold shoulder - how would you have acted?

    • @goofygrandlouis6296
      @goofygrandlouis6296 Рік тому +5

      De Gaulle is also one of the best leader, we in France ever had (easy top 3) !!
      The bullet train ? The concord plane ? That's him. Turning a disastor of a war into a semi-success ? him. The seat at the security counsil ? him.
      Endless nuclear energy ? Also him. Not to mention political independance, national fervor, biggest industrial growth, stability, ending colonial Algeria, a baby-boom of youth, great cinema...etc, etc
      And to think that guy almost died as a young officer in WW1. France would be Bangladesh without him.

    • @cv990a4
      @cv990a4 10 місяців тому +2

      De Gaulle, although high profile (because of his books and his advocacy of tank warfare), was, at the dawn of WWII, also fairly low rank. He became a brigadier general in 1940, and he'd only recently been promoted to full colonel prior to that. So it's not crazy the Americans wondered if he was the right guy.
      And in the end, the US and Britain pumped up France to a position that, absent the Soviet threat, it might never have resumed - the West desperately needed another pillar and it couldn't be Germany. Some of that had disastrous consequences - FDR didn't want France to resume post-WWII control of Indochina for instance, but Truman went along with it. The UK and the US basically agreed to treat France like a world power - kind of a "fake it until you make it" approach. De Gaulle was a huge beneficiary of that. There's no doubt he was an extraordinary person, but also (like most other great leaders, to be fair) extraordinarily lucky.
      My "six degrees of separation" moment with De Gaulle: my mother had a friend who was deep into her old age. About 25-30 years ago, I visited my parents for the holidays and my mother asked me to accompany her to see this old lady. OK, tis the season, etc.
      Wherein, somehow the following was discussed: this lady's father had been an American officer or govt functionary in that part of Germany occupied by the French after WWII. She, at the time, was a tall slim thing in early adulthood and therefore much in demand at the military balls.
      Where she danced with one even taller French officer by the name of Charles De Gaulle. Record-scratch moment for me. Wait a minute - you danced with Charles De Gaulle?! Holy crap!
      (This lady's husband had also been a group leader for the Manhattan Project in Los Alamos, so she'd lived quite the life - she'd known all the greats - Oppenheimer, etc).

  • @fragmcdohl8291
    @fragmcdohl8291 3 роки тому +40

    "At Dunkerque, The British bravely ran away!"Lol

    • @chronikhiles
      @chronikhiles 3 роки тому +1

      "Dunkerque"

    • @andym9571
      @andym9571 3 роки тому +3

      40, 000 Brits stayed behind. 123,00 of those evacuated at Dunkirk were French. Most of whom decided to go straight back to France and not fight.

    • @gengis737
      @gengis737 2 роки тому

      @@andym9571 British Forces lost 68,000 men in Belgium, they bravely fought alongside the French, but at Dunkirk 16,000 French and 1,000 British died defending it.
      British had priority to reembark, out of 338,000 men rescued, 215,000 British reembarked from 28th may to 1st of June (except 4,000 reembarking on 3rd of June), 123,000 French from 1st to 4th of June, including 50,000 on 2nd and 25, 000 on 3rd of June. Evacuation of the last two days, once all British were evacuated, was not planned by Royal Navy and was performed at Churchill's insistence. The 40,000 men captured at Dunkirk were almost all French.
      So no disrespect for British who bravely fought at Dunkirk but it was mostly French battle and a British evacuation. Also half of the small ships who made the evacuation possible were French.
      The French were repatriated to France to keep on fighting the Germans for 3 weeks, despite the loss of most of their tanks and artillery, and were captured after Petain surrendered the army.

  • @jameslawrie3807
    @jameslawrie3807 3 роки тому +29

    A little nerd note: the cartoon weapons you see in this channel's videos are absolutely accurate

    • @ixlnxs
      @ixlnxs 2 роки тому +3

      And the French soldiers include chaps from the colonies fighting for France. As a European of Lebanese and Persian grandparents I appreciate such details, no matter how blond my hair and blue my eyes.

  • @collin8512
    @collin8512 5 років тому +27

    It’s 1936 and French politics is a Dumpster fire. Best way to describe it

  • @ahousecatnamedmr.jenkins1052
    @ahousecatnamedmr.jenkins1052 3 роки тому +130

    "France has always unfortunately been a great example of it can't get no worse and does. I say this as an Englishman with no Disrespect"- Max Hastings

    • @jeywan_off
      @jeywan_off 2 роки тому +27

      Bahaha tell me which countries have won the most battles? France. Tell me today the country where the sun never sets? France(and not Rosbiffs).A day an english officer said: “You French people are fighting for money, while we english are fighting for honor!” the king of the corsairs would have replied: “That is correct, sir. Everyone is fighting for what they don't have. ”- Robert Surcouf

    • @gengis737
      @gengis737 2 роки тому +3

      Max Hastings said that before or after Singapore ?

    • @jacobinfier9407
      @jacobinfier9407 2 роки тому +2

      @@gengis737 lmaoooo

    • @Itachi951000
      @Itachi951000 2 роки тому +5

      @@secretname4190 The UK?

    • @deepaknair4266
      @deepaknair4266 2 роки тому +3

      @@jeywan_off The French won most battles only because you include the battles won by the Franks in the list. The Franks were Germanic and not French. The French can win a war only if they are led by a non French leader like Napoleon[ who was Italian] or have a lot of powerful allies on their side. If they don't have one of these two things they will definitely surrender.

  • @matteopenspace
    @matteopenspace 5 років тому +8

    Excellent. Just excellent. Haven't seen yet any video of comparable length better than yours. Very enjoyable factual recollection, upon which one can build in-depth analyses (social, constitutional, economic, military, etc.). Bravo!

  • @ahmedmuawia2447
    @ahmedmuawia2447 5 років тому +8

    I like how you referenced the fact that the Allies have forbidden Sengali Soldiers from helping anymore in the war.

  • @Alwaysonhots-bu6lu
    @Alwaysonhots-bu6lu 3 роки тому +172

    Damn imagine being a ww1 german general seeing an angry mustache man achieve what you're entire empire could not in 6 months

    • @strasbourgeois1
      @strasbourgeois1 3 роки тому +28

      And he wasn’t even German. He was Austrian.

    • @gravitykat714
      @gravitykat714 3 роки тому +5

      Those were two different France and also they didn’t have blitzkrieg

    • @kllyfify1489
      @kllyfify1489 3 роки тому +17

      I mean germany took france 2 times in less than 70 years, the franco-prussian war and ww2 lol

    • @strasbourgeois1
      @strasbourgeois1 3 роки тому +11

      @@kllyfify1489 And you could say that France jointly took Germany twice in about thirty years. Both World Wars.

    • @kllyfify1489
      @kllyfify1489 3 роки тому +4

      @@strasbourgeois1 well yes but actually no, basically russia entered Berlin first so its not a total win for france

  • @hb.raafay
    @hb.raafay 3 роки тому +4

    I love how he has put everything into perspective of one video so neatly..

  • @Twinson1
    @Twinson1 5 років тому +8

    This video lays out the context of the movie Casablanca. I remember being confused as a kid about France's loyalties.

  • @AncientHistoryGuy
    @AncientHistoryGuy 5 років тому +289

    Sees a new ten min history vid. Clicks watches enjoys. :)

  • @GravitasZero
    @GravitasZero 2 роки тому +45

    You explained quite well why a lot in France DO NOT like the movie Dunkerque.
    I live there right now and can tell you, Britain’s backstabbing habits are quite despised.

    • @martinfiedler4317
      @martinfiedler4317 Рік тому +7

      Yea. The long and glorious tradition of Brexit...

    • @asnekboi7232
      @asnekboi7232 Рік тому +1

      Why were we supposed to do die for an land that could not be saved

    • @nightowl3218
      @nightowl3218 Рік тому +1

      It weren’t our job to sacrifice our lives for another country

    • @asnekboi7232
      @asnekboi7232 Рік тому

      @@nightowl3218 you can say the same thing about Poland or British troops in France in the first place in WW1 as well

    • @ChrisCrossClash
      @ChrisCrossClash Рік тому +2

      You French had the so called "Greatest Army in the World" in 1940 as your generals called yourselves, you had millions of men in the army, you are always blaming everyone else but yourselves, it's your country, you save yourselves.

  • @electrofan1796
    @electrofan1796 3 роки тому +67

    France: WE DECLARE WAR!
    Also France: Don't shoot though, or they'll attack us.

    • @MrSniperfox29
      @MrSniperfox29 3 роки тому +11

      I remember an episode of the World At War where the French were watching some German soliders playing football. An English observer actually asked them why they weren't attacking the enemy, and the reply literally was "because they'll shoot back at us".

  • @lightweightjive
    @lightweightjive Рік тому +3

    Your 2 second description of Dunkirk had me in tears😂

    • @aleksandarvil5718
      @aleksandarvil5718 7 місяців тому

      *“Bravely Run Away”* with _Benny Hill_ theme !!!

  • @marcnassif2822
    @marcnassif2822 5 років тому +131

    Surprised you never mentionned Jean Moulin and the FFL, but I guess a 10 minute format limits this in favor of more important things... Great job though!

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson 5 років тому +8

      I was wondering why he didn't cover the Syrian campaign. It diverted a lot of British and Australian troops away from North Africa to fight the French in the Levant rather than the Germans and Italians in Libya.

  • @Jagzeplin
    @Jagzeplin 3 роки тому +3

    this channel is a gem

  • @rhinoareaction7587
    @rhinoareaction7587 4 роки тому +27

    2:40 finally a big brain, I'm tired of the memes about the Maginot line

    • @Andrei-eb2du
      @Andrei-eb2du 3 роки тому

      Then why didn’t they build the maginot line at the border with Belgium? Where it is way harder to defend in the plains then in the mountains

    • @rhinoareaction7587
      @rhinoareaction7587 3 роки тому +9

      @@Andrei-eb2du the belgians had their own defense line, and the Dyle plan was to defend the Dyle line in Belgium and Netherlands, which was supposed to be fortified but wasn't in 1940. The real poker coup was the Ardennes

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims 3 роки тому +2

      @@Andrei-eb2du because the Franco Belgian alliance was only ended by the Belgian monarch after the maginot line was finished, at the time to build it all the way to the coast would be to sell the Belgians out, and everyone saw the horrors brought to Belgium in the First World War
      Besides the maginot line did cover the Ardennes, it’s another one of the many myths of the Second World War, it wasn’t as potent as the Franco German border because forests are better defensive terrain than flatland, but it was there, however being manned by second and third rate divisions of barely trained conscripts was tiddlywinks to the best of the German army with its elite mechanized/motorized formations and to an enemy who enjoyed significant air superiority

  • @Kookanoodles
    @Kookanoodles 5 років тому +4

    Extremely well written video that tackles pretty much every single major misconception people have about this subject. Well done!

    • @MadManchou
      @MadManchou 3 роки тому

      Although it still missed some pretty important elements :
      -"Allied" bombings of mainland France
      -Power struggles amidst free france
      -the CNR's programme (which led to most social reforms in the aftermath of ww2)
      -the fact Vichy France was never formally at war with any of the Allies.
      -the efforts by Vichy France, at least early on, to prepare their revenge on the Germans (stacking weapons in concealed hangars, developping new war material while making it look like nothing much was going on, etc.)
      - the manpower situation for the Allies as a whole (not just the UK) leading to France getting an occupation zone and a UNSC seat.
      -war in the overseas territories

    • @Kookanoodles
      @Kookanoodles 3 роки тому

      @@MadManchou Well you can't say everything in ten minutes. I thought it was good at covering the major points and especially the myths that are prevalent in the anglosophere.

    • @MadManchou
      @MadManchou 3 роки тому

      Obviously

    • @gengis737
      @gengis737 2 роки тому

      @@MadManchou Vichy concealed army was the line of defense of collaborators after the war. It proved a false pretense when German invaded Southern France with limited force, no opposition was organized and the planes and ships were not even authorized to escape to North Africa.

  • @writerconsidered
    @writerconsidered 3 роки тому +2

    The hard sarcasm just makes this stuff so damn fun to watch.

  • @raeking8151
    @raeking8151 5 років тому +43

    Error: Petain was sentenced to death, but De Gaulle changed it to life in prison

    • @roberteaston6413
      @roberteaston6413 5 років тому +3

      Too bad about Laval.

    • @Kamfrenchie
      @Kamfrenchie Рік тому +4

      @@roberteaston6413 nah laval had it coming

    • @roberteaston6413
      @roberteaston6413 Рік тому +1

      @@Kamfrenchie After the British conquest of Canada in 1759 France lost her empire in North America. At the Treaty of Paris in 1763 France was allowed to keep two small islands in the Gulf of Saint Lawrence as whaling stations. These islands were Saint Pierre and Miquelon. They were near Newfoundland. On Christmas Day, 1941 Charles De Gualle had his tiny Free French navy invade these two islands and take it away from Vichy France. There was no evidence that these two islands were used as a sanctuary for German U-boats. Both the Canadian and British governments knew that the American government took the Monroe Doctrine seriously. They would never conduct a military operation in North America without talking to the Americans first. De Gualle did not care. He said that if the Americans came to these two islands he would tell his men to fire on them. President Franklin Roosevelt despised him for his arrogance. As far as De Gualle was concerned Britain was America's poodle and Canada was a make believe country. During WW2 most of the people in Quebec supported Vichy France.

    • @HeronPoint2021
      @HeronPoint2021 Рік тому

      @@roberteaston6413 and men in Quebec would not fight in the war, either.

    • @roberteaston6413
      @roberteaston6413 Рік тому

      @@HeronPoint2021 There were some French Canadians such as Pierre Sevigny and Jacque Dextrae that served with distinction. Pierre Trudeau sat out the war. If you were to talk to a French Canadian or an Irish Canadian Catholic and ask him why he was an isolationist he would say that Mother England is playing you Tories for a sucker. In times of peace and prosperity England makes money out of sugar producing islands in the Caribbean, she makes money out of diamond mines in South Africa, and exploits the wealth of India. She ignores her dominions such as Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. Yet when England goes to war she expects her dominions to contribute her finest men to fight England's wars. When the war is over England goes back to exploiting her Empire and ignoring her dominions. That argument was not valid when it came to defeating Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany was pure evil and a threat to Western civilisation. I would not give my life so England could keep Singapore as a naval base but I would give my life to prevent Nazi Germany from destroying the United Kingdom and Western civilisation.

  • @TheFiresloth
    @TheFiresloth 5 років тому +41

    Some interesting factoids :
    -Capital for the Free French renewed efforts was a black french guyanese, Felix Eboue, governor of French Equatorial Africa. He was the first high ranking official of the Empire to recognize De Gaulle, and he organized the regroupment of forces and fighting in the Desert War. He was buried in the Pantheon in 1949, the first black french to be.
    -The battle of Bir-Hakeim was very important in making France looks like a legitimate power once more, as it was the first engagement to live up to the hype of French military reputation. It was also important in delaying Rommel during his march to El-Alamein.
    -De Gaulle and Churchill actually had a friendship of sort, even if filled with political arguing and general bickering. De Gaulle respected Churchill for his experience and energy, and Churchill had kind of a mancrush on De Gaulle during the Fall of France, calling him "the Man of Destiny" due to his conviction that he would play a determinant role for France. This would be useful to maintain De Gaulle's rank among the Allies despite Roosevelt's animosity and Truman's disdain. He had a warm relationship with Eisenhower, however.

    • @tonyhawk94
      @tonyhawk94 5 років тому +6

      The Churchill - De Gaulle alliance is the embodiment of the French-English relationship : Mutual respect and rivalries ! For instance, Churchill was a perfect French speaker but refused to speak French to De Gaulle, on the contrary, even on his weak position De Gaulle refused to be treated as a second-hand ally. I love these two.

    • @tonyhawk94
      @tonyhawk94 5 років тому +12

      @mikechrishill You're sadly talking shit.
      First thing : Yes most troops at the begining were colonial troops (for France except in artillery regiments) at the begining but they were replaced by FFI (Resistance of the interior) at the debarkment in Provence.
      Resistance cells were absolutely not mostly foreigners, the first cells were French royalists and nationalists from two groups : La cagoule (nationalists) and Action Française (Royalits), then, Communists groups joined in after the operation Barbarossa. The Spanish that entered Paris were Republicans welcomed in southern France in the 30's after the Spanish civil war and were related with the French that fought in the Spanish civil war among the volunteers (for instance André Malraux that would become ministry of culture fought in Spain).
      And no resistance was not a Myth, my Grand-father himself joined the resistance like many French, not by ideology but because the resistance provided food easily and because he was sentenced to death or deportation by the Germans.

    • @ArkadiBolschek
      @ArkadiBolschek 5 років тому +9

      @mikechrishill The Moroccans and Algerians in the Leclerc division only numbered about 3.600 out of 14.500. Leclerc used the Spaniards as a vanguard because they were the most experienced and battle-hardened men in the division, not because there was a shortage of white guys in his forces.

    • @dknowles60
      @dknowles60 4 роки тому

      De Gaulle did not get along with LBJ. De gaulle to the Us to leave france in the 1960's LBJ spanked De Gaulle and said to him does that inculde the 40k dead US solders in france. it was said De Gaulle had nothing to say about that

    • @TheFiresloth
      @TheFiresloth 4 роки тому

      @@dknowles60 The story is apocryphal. I mean, you really think world leaders have nothing else to do but to send each others one-liners ?

  • @polandballhistorian8537
    @polandballhistorian8537 5 років тому +209

    Raise your hand if you learned all of this playing HOi4!
    wait i dont have hands

  • @serbian8323
    @serbian8323 2 роки тому +6

    "The British bravely ran away."
    I love this channel

  • @DIRUU
    @DIRUU 5 років тому +20

    4:57 look at beautiful rectangular ship

    • @portchokelaide8559
      @portchokelaide8559 4 роки тому

      No it is a pier or a ship that flipped over

    • @zacharytracy3797
      @zacharytracy3797 3 роки тому +1

      Bottoms of ships were red during that period of time. He just wanted an easy ship.

  • @LoserBroProductions
    @LoserBroProductions 5 років тому +8

    This. Was. Awesome. Thank you for making a video about such an interesting yet underreported topic.

    • @Cjnw
      @Cjnw 5 років тому

      Normie.

  • @gamescomgamer
    @gamescomgamer 5 років тому +62

    the map at 9:12 is not correct, austria was not part of the western block. one condition of it gaining independance was the promise that it remained neutral forever.

    • @dudesweet1535
      @dudesweet1535 5 років тому +4

      If only it had kept that promise.

    • @ville307
      @ville307 5 років тому +15

      Map also has Yugoslavia in red.
      I think it's just a general idea of what was considered west and east during cold war.

    • @Realkeepa-et9vo
      @Realkeepa-et9vo 5 років тому +4

      Austria was a free market, capitalist country, Yugoslavia a planned economy/socialists one

    • @jakubpraznovsky8999
      @jakubpraznovsky8999 5 років тому +1

      @@dudesweet1535 it did, it never joined any military alliance after WW2. EU is an economic alliance and lot of other organisations regarding science, economy and healthcare etc... But it didn't join any military alliance

    • @gavinoaw
      @gavinoaw 5 років тому +1

      @@Realkeepa-et9vo If that was the criteria for colouring the map, then West Germany should have been blue too. Having West Germany neutral but Austria blue makes no sense, no matter what the colours represent. Unless there is something I'm not aware of...

  • @RDR12344
    @RDR12344 5 років тому +30

    no one talks about the Free french awesome video !!!!!

  • @DecisiveZoom
    @DecisiveZoom 4 роки тому +17

    I demand my extra second of ten minute history

  • @065Tim
    @065Tim 5 років тому +1

    I just love how many simple solutions are applied to complex problems. Just heating up the dumpster fire.

  • @eliegbert8121
    @eliegbert8121 5 років тому +6

    Nice detail, making the bay in the netherlands bigger because at that time they did not have as much land that had been reclaimed!

    • @bingola45
      @bingola45 4 роки тому

      That waz becoz of the Zoider, Zee.

  • @joaolimao9381
    @joaolimao9381 5 років тому +5

    I love these character drawings!

  • @MDA3
    @MDA3 4 роки тому +30

    “The british bravely ran away” XD

  • @langdog89
    @langdog89 2 роки тому +2

    7:47, Love it! I don't think a lot of people picked it up. But I am glad you put that in.

    • @sijordbason
      @sijordbason Рік тому +1

      I don't get it, what's that supposed to mean?

    • @langdog89
      @langdog89 Рік тому +3

      Most or at least half of the free french forces at that time were black or arab. But after Paris was freed. They where all sent out of the city so they could not be in the parade that followed.@@sijordbason

    • @edmerc92
      @edmerc92 7 місяців тому

      @@langdog89 The African soldiers weren't sent to Paris. They were in southern France. This video makes it sound like it was de Gaulle's idea but it was actually done at the request of the Americans, since their own army was segregated.

  • @VictorQuesada-bl1xk
    @VictorQuesada-bl1xk 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for this context. Pétain was a hero for WWI, but the villain for WWII. It's also fascinating to see how off kilter the whole world was in the 1930s, and that helps make the run up to WWII make more sense.

  • @Jotgiex
    @Jotgiex 5 років тому +4

    You are great bro, interesting documentary that isn't stretched to 10 minute mark (9:59)

  • @korakys
    @korakys 5 років тому +4

    I thought I already knew everything I'd want to know about WW2, I was wrong. I'm not sure how I didn't realise I was missing such a big part of the picture of WW2 before watching this video.

  • @SStealth14
    @SStealth14 5 років тому +2

    the cartoons and representation of historical moments are fun to watch. don't change their style.

  • @DoublUpper
    @DoublUpper 2 роки тому

    I wish i had found ur channel when i was in school, not only are the lessons much more interessting, it would also help me with presentations. Instead of the white background with some boring words on powerpoint i would use more like these pictures to present my subject.

  • @pltkaiser9258
    @pltkaiser9258 5 років тому +8

    “Bravely retreated.” -Ten Minute History, 2019

  • @leeewen100
    @leeewen100 5 років тому +5

    Genuinely one of the best videos you've made. Should be proud keep it up

  • @schlymfrainkestxchieftains2623
    @schlymfrainkestxchieftains2623 5 років тому +7

    4:34 you forgot about the Italian occupied Zone in Southeastern France. the Italians invaded France on the 10th of June 1940 in what is known as the first battle of the Alps

  • @Rudero3
    @Rudero3 2 роки тому +1

    "Bravely ran away"
    I have to remember that and work that into something.

  • @laurentboitouzet9793
    @laurentboitouzet9793 3 роки тому +1

    Great job, very thorough and complete for so short a video.

  • @johnaucamp7106
    @johnaucamp7106 5 років тому +42

    I know you had to condense a lot, but you should have mentioned how Brazzaville in the French Congo became the base of operations for the Free France from 1940 - 1942.

    • @williamshortfilm5818
      @williamshortfilm5818 5 років тому +7

      Thank you for remembering. Brazzaville was the capital of Free France, and later Algiers.

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 5 років тому

      Everyone who has seen Casablanca knows that. But I wonder how effectively you could fight Hitler there.

    • @kennethkellogg6556
      @kennethkellogg6556 2 роки тому

      There was also the matter of Madagascar.

  • @seneca983
    @seneca983 5 років тому +46

    This time "bravely ran away" is actually an accurate description.

    • @Euan_Miller43
      @Euan_Miller43 5 років тому +5

      seneca983 it’s not

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 5 років тому +9

      @@Euan_Miller43: How come? Evacuating was the only sensible option at that point and not a decision born out of fear. I'm also not aware of any lack of bravery while holding out until the evacuation was complete.

    • @Euan_Miller43
      @Euan_Miller43 5 років тому +3

      seneca983 bravely ran away is a pisstake this video doesn’t do Dunkirk justice

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 5 років тому +10

      @@Euan_Miller43: By "accurate" I meant that it was actually brave.
      In the video it's obviously just a joke.

    • @joshuapenney4952
      @joshuapenney4952 5 років тому +2

      @@seneca983 compared to the the French soldiers who stayed fighting, it was not brave

  • @Pfisiar22
    @Pfisiar22 5 років тому +8

    "You don't get many opportunities to destroy the french fleet." -- David Mitchell

  • @ScotisticDad
    @ScotisticDad 5 років тому +2

    Great video! Disovered you at the weekend.
    Definitely going to have your back on Patreon.

  • @thomasaquinas2600
    @thomasaquinas2600 3 роки тому +8

    What struck me is that the hated Versailles Treaty, the entire 1st World War, it was all focused on France. Yet, during WW2, the occupation of France was unpleasant but far (far) from the worst treated country held by Germany. This was mostly because it was beyond Germany's capacity to fully occupy(for most of WW2) France and the myriad other nations...

    • @anubis5397
      @anubis5397 2 роки тому +8

      I do think that if France was treated "well" by the germans was because german soldiers, generals, and Hitler itself have some respect for France. after all, most of them have fought in the western front in WW1.

    • @parodyclip36
      @parodyclip36 2 роки тому +3

      The Germans considered the French to be the second purest race after the Germans. They were also told (occupation soldiers) to somewhat respect the citizens to avoid being hated. It worked sometimes because the Anglophobia was really strong. But the French still got treated harshly, especially in the north east and west

  • @Orcus921
    @Orcus921 5 років тому +9

    Respect for the vid being 9:59 sec long and not ten

    • @Cjnw
      @Cjnw 5 років тому +1

      ree

  • @polandball4701
    @polandball4701 5 років тому +17

    0:06 This is your fault

  • @jessicamarshall1975
    @jessicamarshall1975 5 років тому +4

    Where was something like this last year when I was working on my dissertation?
    Part of the reason De Gaulle had a bad relationship with FDR was because the French who ended up in America were sympathetic to the Vichy regime (because Petain was a First World War Hero) and so unsympathetic to the Free French and Churchill was famously pro-American. He literally told De Gaulle that if it came down to it he would chose FDR over him; which was a real win for Franco-British relations.
    Of the recommended materials I recommend Julian Jackson’s book, it’s an easy read (by academic history book standards) and he was my dissertation supervisor so I can confirm he knows what he is talking about.

    • @bingola45
      @bingola45 4 роки тому +2

      When De Gaulle was woken to be informed that the Americans had landed in France, he expressed his hope that the 'brave French soldiers' would drive them out.
      With friends like that...

    • @bingola45
      @bingola45 3 роки тому +1

      @Nogent Morocco ISN'T France?

  • @coolwhip455
    @coolwhip455 5 років тому +74

    France: Builds nearly impenetrable fortifications that are highly advanced for the time and are guaranteed to inflict extreme casualties on anyone who attacks them.
    Germany: Goes around them.

    • @thezeitos469
      @thezeitos469 5 років тому

      "Not again.. Obi Wan is going to kill me."

    • @trollinape2697
      @trollinape2697 5 років тому +9

      @@migkillerphantom yeah you said it, its a joke, so dont try to act like a super smart person

    • @BajanEnglishman51
      @BajanEnglishman51 4 роки тому +2

      migkillerphantom lol idiot that’s why jokes exists

    • @migkillerphantom
      @migkillerphantom 4 роки тому +3

      @@trollinape2697 the joke only works if you are an idiot who believes the premise.

    • @morganrobinson8042
      @morganrobinson8042 4 роки тому +4

      Their mistake was relying upon Belgium for anything.

  • @bbenjoe
    @bbenjoe 3 роки тому +12

    Actually Marshall Petain was sentenced to death, but De Gaulle communited it to a life sentence.

    • @ey6713
      @ey6713 3 роки тому +3

      Because he was too old

    • @davemillerthesoldier2426
      @davemillerthesoldier2426 2 роки тому +4

      ​@@ey6713 no it's because he was the hero of ww1

    • @joseangelvillaverdealcalde2317
      @joseangelvillaverdealcalde2317 2 роки тому +1

      Well, he was send to the Swiss border by the germans, so he can flee but he returned to France to surrender himself; even despising him, De Gaulle was amazed by this gesture, so he conmuted the sentence

  • @arthurfisher1857
    @arthurfisher1857 4 роки тому +5

    I know this video is old and you probably won't see this, but what you said at 4:50 is a really gross misrepresentation of what happened.
    The British gave the French 4 options.
    - hand the ships over to the Royal Navy.
    - sail to the UK with French crews and French officers and continue fighting under the French flag.
    - Scuttle them.
    - or sail them to a neutral port to see out the war, like in the U.S.A.
    Literally every option except "let the Germans have them."
    The French government in Paris was only informed of the scuttle or surrender options though. For some reason, the French negotiator didn't see fit to pass on the other options to his superiors.
    The British gave them multiple deadlines to give an answer and repeatedly held off taking any action.
    It was only when it was made very clear that the French would not agree to any of the above stated terms that the Royal Navy, VERY reluctantly, opened fire.
    Even the famously English-hating Charles DeGaulle is on record of saying he felt the attack was justified. That he would have done the same thing if he was in that position.