Best Moderate Speed/High-Handicap Irons 2023
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2023
- Shot on location at the brilliant Dundonald Links in Scotland, TG Test Pro Neil Wain and Equipment Editor Simon Daddow test and review the Best Moderate Speed/High-Handicap Irons of 2023.
We narrow 11 sets down to our our favourite five models of the year, and show comparison data for all the leading options.
See the test data on our website here bit.ly/3lUK0mW
Timestamps:
0:59 What are High-Handicap Irons and who are they aimed at?
1:44 How and why High Launch irons are trending up, and who are they aimed at?
3:07 How we created our data
4:13 Drop-off, shot area and dispersion data comparison for all 11 models tested
6:54 Ball speed, launch angle, backspin, peak height, descent angle and carry distance data comparison for all 11 models tested.
9:06 How does the High-Handicap Iron category compare in data to the others we tested?
9:47 Our best five performing High-Handicap Irons of 2023
Get more information on our best performing High-Handicap Irons individually below:
TaylorMade Stealth HD - bit.ly/3ZEdhAk
Mizuno JPX923 Hot Metal HL - bit.ly/42WZBmM
Cleveland Launcher XL Halo Hybrid Iron - bit.ly/40wtYig
Eleven Hybrid Iron - bit.ly/3lUK0mW
Wilson Launch Pad - bit.ly/40uQ70t
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Thank you. Too many golf channels don't cater to mid to high handicapper. You guys do. Thank you👍🏾
You are correct
Thanks David, really appreciate you taking the time to feedback. Glad we can help.
I got fitted into JPX923 HM HL, despite having a 7i swing speed of 90 mph on average. The reason for this was the better lofts, with the regular HM irons the distance was ridiculous with a pure strike, and didn't give the ball flight I wanted to see. Consistently my shots with the HL clubs launched better, had more control, and gave me carry distances that were more manageable. I personally think it's remiss to say that they are for slower speeds only.
Hi I've recently bought the eleven golf hybrid irons , they are amazing , great value for money , kbs shafts , I got 7 - PW, second hand off eBay, so impressed, I went to main website and purchased the 5 and 6 , very forgiving and to be honest more golfers should give these a go
Thanks for your input Andy, appreciate you taking the time.
Gents, Can you please provide captions? Much appreciated.!
I recently bought the Sub 70 799 which plays a lot like the Cleveland Halo (I tested the Halo at a retailer). I sold my previous Callaway Rogue X (introduced in 2018) which had 27* loft 7-iron, and don't miss them at all because I was rolling off the greens for lack of stopping power. My 7-iron swing is 75-80 mpg, and now I get an descent angle range of 45-47 degrees so I hold more greens now. My carry is about 150-155 yards. I have a golf simulator in my home so I know the stats. Too bad you could not test the Sub 70 799 because I think it is every bit as good, but beats all these on price. I paid US90 a club ($630 for seven irons) which included head covers, Sub 70 cap, some tees and free delivery (I don't know if this applies outside of the U.S). There is a Sub 70 in Hereford, England that I think ships to Europe. Sub 70 is a direct to consumer brand so it is best to know your specs, and they have many head and shaft options.
Thanks for your input Chester, we have several Sub 70 irons, fairway woods and hybrids on test this year, they've done pretty well, not quite sure why they didn't send the 799 as you mention.
Completely understand where you're coming from, Simon is just switching out of a set Rogue X to something more lofted too.
Would have also liked to hear some feedback from Simon on his experience using these clubs (which felt best, went furthest etc)
Thanks for the feedback Fran, will see what we can do in the future.
For a high handicapper would you go HL or HD? I am down to two
Are you thinking Mizuno JPX923 Hot Metal HL? Or Ping G430 High Launch?
We'd be thinking about it like this. If you're after a looker with long lasting appeal, it would have to be the Mizuno. If you are after ultimate performance for a high-handicapper and looks don't come into, then by all means fill your boots with the HD.
Hope that helps?
Would you recommend the Stealth HD, the Launchpad or the Halo XL. Looking for more consistency especially from a variety of lies.
All are good choices, it would be worth hitting a few shots with each to see how you get on with the different sole widths.
Both the Launch Pad and Halo will be two years old here in the UK, come this winter so they'd be prime candidates for an update next year. If that makes any difference to your decision?
I own both Halo and HD and played with them extensively. As a matter of fact, I’ve played just about every iron over the years, including hickories mashies. By far the best consistent performer is the Cleveland Halo. If you can get over the looks issue, I’d strongly recommend Clevelands. The HD would be my second choice, but don’t like the offset too much.
@@todaysgolferplanning on the halo. good tip will wait next year for new version
Great stuff, thanks for your input @@aponoypi
@@gussgoldenworkshop9259 @gussgoldenworkshop9259 I just got the previous gen of Halo XLs. It was my first choice and got a great deal. Haven't gotten my hands on them but they r otw. Can you please kindly give a detailed explanation on why u liked Halo XL over HD? Pros, cons, whatever comes to ur mind. TIA.
Where do I get to test the eleven
If you're in the UK Sub 70 distribute Eleven, they're based in Hereford, and they will fit you in their studio.
Contact details below
Address: Sub70 Golf, Hereford HR4 9SN
Phone: 0333 404 7070
Really need to swing at 75mph if that is the target audience to see expectable distance and stopping power (spin, height, descent angle). The seven clubs are an interesting concept, why are they so much cheaper than a “normal” hybrid and how would the performance compare on e.g. 5 hybrid and 4hybrid (at 75mph)?
Understand where you're coming from Anthony, but each of the models came with a stock stiff shaft (the same spec we use for testing all irons), so swinging at 75mph wouldn't be a fair reflection of how they perform. Also not all irons within this category are aimed at sub 70mph speed players.
We'd argue you're much better hitting all models with one player (like we have), narrowing models significantly to those that could be of interest, then going to try and get fitted for those that interest you most.
Hope that explains.
Perhaps learn how to swing at a slower speed consistently for super game improvement clubs. Otherwise it becomes a mostly meaningless comparison test.
I've got a set of heavenly hybrids very similar to the eleven set. So easy it's like cheating and you can't shank them😊👍
Brilliant stuff Roy, glad you like them.
To echo some of the other comments, it's a bit of a waste if time reviewing high handicapper irons when hitting them at club and ball speeds a high handicapper cannot achieve. You will get very different comparative performance between 75mph and 90mph clubhead speeds. I get that you need consistency you need a decent golfer, but why can't a pro take enough swings to get 5 good swings at c. 75mph? I've seen some reviews making recommendations with a 7 iron swing with a 185yd carry - totally irrelevant for the target golfer most who struggle to carry 140!
plus high handicappers with slow speed will have a regular flex graphite. i agree the 7 iron will be less than 150 yards. at 75 mph isn't a senior flex more appropriate?
Why can’t you leave up the stats longer for viewers to review?!
We'll have a word with our videographer for future videos Syd, you can see the data on our website here
bit.ly/3MjzwrU
Press pause on screen to see stats
I can’t see how a pro’s swing can test a club designed for high handicappers.
The notion that he can’t play a 7 iron that carries 190 is ridiculous. Of course he wouldn’t it’s not designed for him. Titliest make the T100 !!! The T400 carries fine for slower swing speeds but gives an extra 20 yards. It has a good peak height and stops well. It’s spins plenty otherwise it wouldn’t carry 190 yards! The club is head and shoulders better than the other hybrid clubs for feel and quality. The Elevens I am sure work well and the TM and Mizuno are great. Any well renowned club maker who enters this category will make a great club.The question is what you need it to do and that is swing dependant. Try them all but be open to what works for you. The shaft options for each will also be critical because although the club head is good it will only work well if the shaft matches it and your swing.
Thanks for your input Adrain, completely understand where you're coming from, but by testing all the irons on the market with a single player is a great way of seeing how much models vary, and helps understand the differences (ie stronger or weaker lofts) between them.
Probably worth saying the irons in this category were tested with a stock stiff shaft from each brand, like all of the irons we've tested for years, so they weren't set-up for slow speed players.
@@todaysgolfer I totally understand, another channel 2nd swing used a higher handicapper to do the tests with regular/light shafts which these clubs are probably designed for. The results are a better way of determining what us mere mortals might prefer.I think My golf Spy to the same. Might be worth trying next time.
Can you chaps leave the table up longer ffs?
We'll have a word with our videographer, if you need to see the data it is on our website here
bit.ly/3MjzwrU
Press pause to freeze video
@@bristolreiki lol I know. In my mind, if one is talking about data in a table then leave the table on the screen and point to the exact data and discuss. What's the point of briefly flashing the table and then showing Neil hit balls, and then repeating every 10 seconds? I feel like I'm developing ADHD watching these reviews. 😄
@@IamDaGrouch 😂
Why when you test a club made for moderate slow swing speeds use someone with a moderate slow swing speed. totally pointless testing with someone who can hit a 7 180 yards.
It comes down to consistency.
If you're looking at comparing any club, irrespective of speed you need consistency to make an accurate analysis.
Consistency is way more important than speed. It really is that simple. And all of these samples are fitted with stiff shafts.
By all means use a slower speed player, but if they're hitting shots all over the face, you need every iron to be hit all over the face (in the same locations), or else the data you create is utterly meaningless.
Hope that explains.
thankyou@@todaysgolfer