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Anne of Cleves will always be my favorite. She knew how pointless it was to fight against Henry and in doing so managed to survive to become one of the richest women of her time. She managed to carve out a happy life for herself and her household.
I’m sure she got the message… He heartlessly divorced the love of his life after 20 years because she couldn’t produce a male heir, forced her into exile, refused her access to her only child, Called their daughter who had previously been the Pearl of his court, a bastard and humiliated her and her mother while he took up with adulterous Anne. Married pregnant Anne before his trumped up divorce. Then after Anne gave him another daughter, miscarriages and no sons, he was done with her. So he devised her beheading, after the most shocking false accusations of incest against her, she had to watch her brothers execution while their father had to agree with the king’s judgment. After Jane Seymour died giving the king a son, I’m sure Ann of Cleves was more than happy to quietly step aside and allow Henry’s rage to fall on anyone else’s life.
She also knew she was completely out of her depth at the English Court. She was educated, but not in how to navigate the political and social world of a royal court. Her father kept his daughters ignorant of carnal knowledge. I remember watching a documentary that shared that the court was completely unaware that the marriage was not consummated. In fact, Anne was completely unaware that it hadn’t! When 1 of her German ladies in waiting asked her if they had “sealed the deal,” she told her that yes they had. She explained that every night, Henry escorts her to her bed and kisses her on her hand! That was what she thought was sex!
@@JenaEmerald it's believed that Anne was a good and modest person and the charges against her were completely false. The adulterous stuff was just propaganda to make the public dislike her so Henry didn't seem completely insane. In all the love letters they wrote to one another, she constantly refused to be his mistress and would not sleep with anyone she wasn't married to. There is a lot of evidence like this that supports she wasn't.. well.. a whore😂
My inconsequential opinion of Catherine of Aragon is that she was a perfect example of a "wronged woman". She did as she was raised to do, did it extraordinarily well and for decades, and was brushed aside both by her husband and from history for her tenacity, faith and standing firm in the right. She was every inch a Queen. I hope her spirit is resting well and at peace, in the knowledge that she never gave in to a psychopathic spouse who, in the end, prove utterly faithless and cruel.
I add to this that we all must remember that this was the 16th century when women were considered chattel to be bartered, loaned, eschewed, even beaten to death, perfectly legally. These women had no choice in what happened to them once Henry VIII began to seek them out for his bed, either within or outside of marriage. They had to be one thing, and one thing only: obedient.
Unfortunately, Catherine is probably in Hades, because she was a false Christian and guilty of her own misdeeds. She never should have married into the Tudor Family and should have been free to marry an older Spanish man of her own choice. Sadly for her, she was denied.
Catherine was a good Queen and faithful wife to Henry. I always felt sad for her and read that she died of a broken heart. Her parents, Ferdinand and Isabella were my ancestors so I am always interested to find as much information as I can.
Catherine Howard's story always breaks my heart. She was a young, kind, girl who stepped into, or was pushed into, a maelstrom. She was doomed from the moment she caught his eye.
Yeah... She was caught in a Hurricane, not of her own making... But by others who sought power and influence. Now that I consider it. I find I am more and ore disgusted with the actions of these people.
@@heatherinch3802 She was kind. She was good to her relatives and was good to the Pole family, who were persecuted by Henry VIII because Henry feared they had a better claim to the throne than he did. That was courageous of her.
I believe Anne of Cleeves gave him a first-hand glimpse into how women truly saw him. Not as King, but as a man. Her initial recoiling from him most definitely shattered his ego. And he did what any classic narcissist would do, he feigned his own exaggerated repulsion in her. He couldn’t bed her because he knew she was disgusted by him. Poor Catherine Howard was a mere tool to mend his fragile ego, and probably even as a sly dig at Anne. 😄
And, as stated by the narrator, given Henry’s poor state of health, with his smelly leg, likely gangrenous, ultimately played a large part in his declining health and could well have been the reason he had erectile dysfunction. The great King could never be known to be impotent, so he blamed that on poor Anne of Cleves’ looks! She played her hand well, came from a society that valued both sexes more equally and knew enough of Henry’s horridly untrustworthy demeanour, to play the cards she was dealt, to find favour from him. I find it quite sad that she died so young, but am glad that she was laid to rest in Westminster Abbey, with so many others’ whom were honoured greatly, being entombed there.
@Jenthepen also “modern english history” ?? the person was referring to Anne’s German parents who did have quite equal footing, and were both powerful political figures. Anne was taught things english women were not taught at the time. google is free.
I'd like to comment on Anne of Cleeves. I think she had extraordinary courage to take on Henry VIII. She proved herself a faithful friend and loyal to her adopted country. In a sense, she got the best deal of the 6 wives. She became the King's sister with a handsome annuity and lavish surroundings. She was honoured at court for the rest of her life and made every effort to include the Princesses Mary and Elizabeth. No wife could have been more faithful, and I don't mean her innocence in the bed chamber. She did as every 16th century wife was commanded to do and managed to offend no one; that in itself was a triumph considering the odds and the characters involved. Well done Your Grace, very well done indeed.
Unpopular opinion: nobody wants to say Anne Boleyn was their fave but I have to hold her somewhere dear for her troubles and the fact she gave us one of the greatest queens in memory: Elizabeth I.
@@HelenBurns-y8c Well…I’m speaking as a Catholic 😂 That being said, she influenced Henry and brought Protestantism to England very much on purpose as a fan of Martin Luther and possessing his writings.
Anne Boleyn was basically put to the sword for failing to produce a male heir for a King who became a mental case after a bad fall from his horse. I don't care if she was Saint or sinner. What was done to Anne for something over which she had no control whatsoever is both dark and tragic. It becomes even more tragic if you consider the state of "medicine" in 1536. It is one of the most fascinating "what if's" in all of English history to consider how much better off so many people might have been if Henry VIII had died at the jousting tournament, as he almost did when the horse fell on a royal jackass!
@@debbierowley8833 Considering what? There are surviving records in which people at Court talk about the personality change that befell Henry VIII after that jousting accent on 24 January 1536. By all accounts, he was blacked out for 3/4 of an hour as a direct result of the incident and no one was sure he would ever wake up again. The fact that he did changed the history of his reign much for the worse. The fact that he suffered a brain injury is almost certain. It altered his personality. As to what happened to Anne Boleyn, she said it herself. After her miscarriage,(29 January 1536) she said "I am misdelivered of my savior." She knew that the death of what would have been a son for the King was her own death sentence. She was not at fault. Henry used it in part to rid himself of Anne in favour of Jane Seymour (who died two weeks after giving birth to Edward the 6th 12 October 1537.) Henry had 3 more wives to go thru before his death in January 1547. The man who was once considered as having the best legs in the Kingdom died an obese beast of a man feared by all around him. On the whole I think the dogs who lapped up his blood got the best part of him. My own judgement of him is that he degenerated into a pig. After all, he helped establish the definition. One has to wonder where England would be if his brother Arthur had lived to take the throne and Henry had become only a footnote as another carousing prince.
@@simsdanceparty9320 The thing is: Who was it that left Anne such a " a small window of time" to have a son? By the time of her miscarriage, Henry was already looking to replace her. Anne might have had the chance to bear more children, but she was never given the chance, was she? Whom and how Henry "loved" is subjective. We do know however that Henry's later wives took lessons from the fate of Anne. The days of anyone getting close to the shark without being afraid of the teeth ended with the murder of Anne B.
Had he died... Yeah, it would have been easier.. but the lack of a male heir might have seen a wars of the roses: tudors edition... or worse?. Who knows how things might have unfolded had he actually died... it might have been easier for her... but we can';t know how things would have happened otherwise.
I completely agree because it would have skipped over all the people Henry killed after that and all the people Bloody Mary killed and all the people Edward killed (not nearly as many). If it would have gone straight from Anne to her daughter Elizabeth so many English people would have survived.
I always found it interesting that died and survived (Jane Seymour and Catherine Parr) both died from Childbirth. It's even speculated that both Catherine of Aragon and Anne of Cleves both died of cancer. If that were to be true than there were really only 3 fates for his wives, Cancer, beheading and dying in the childbed
Anne of Cleves and Catherine of Aragon's resilience and strength shine through history, inspiring admiration. Thank you to the uploader for sharing this captivating four-hour documentary.
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Excellent presentation. Anna of Cleves was a very smart lady. She saw the "handwriting on the wall" and gladly took the exit Henry offered her. Though, by this time, he was definitely no prize to any woman.
It’s a nice story-and one I used to enjoy. However, Anne and her brother attempted to renew her marriage to Henry following Catherine Howard’s execution. When he married Catherine Parr, a contemporary report describes Anne’s disappointment and resentment, particularly since his sixth wife was older than she was. It’s certainly fun to imagine Anne cleverly recognizing her good luck and settling into life as the “King’s sister.” Perhaps at some point she did. However, the people in the past had their own motives.
@edoboleyn They probably knew he wasn't long for the world and wanted the throne. Her being a foreign princess meant her head was safe, so why not try to get more power?
Anne of cleaves ironically fared one of the best as she was treated like a sister & lived incredibly comfortably economically & carefully negotiated out of death from Henry or her brother
Amongst all these wives, it sounds like Anna of Cleves was the luckiest one. Everyone said Catherine Parr was the survivor, but she only outlived Henry by a year (but I do understand that she managed to evade execution, although in the end she ended up in the clutches of Thomas Seymour...and there were rumors about him and his character...). But it seems like Anna was the real survivor here, no disrespect to Catherine Parr or the other queens, they all kind of got a raw deal being married to him. But it seems like Anna of Cleves didn't just survive, she thrived as well. Really all of them deserved better.
@@mayaalieva938 So very true….I would like to hear more details about her relationship with her own family, especially her brother whom she feared would go after Henry for rejecting her. I did see a document., on YT, or PBS, or The History Channel, called Anne of Cleve’s, the Ugly One? It gave descriptions and showed paintings of her in her homeland and she definitely was not ugly!!! I think this was Henry trying to cover for his own E.D. As so many have said in the comments, this King turned into a dictatorial monster, whom made six women’s lives hell, in one way or another! Thank goodness they didn’t have to sing God Save The King until the start of the 19th Century! EGADFRY!
Catherine of Aragon deserves huge props for standing up for herself, her faith, and her heritage. She came from ambitious parents, strong parents, so she had the genes. Back then, if she had been born a man, what a Sovereign she would've been. Its wild to think about the fact that the only reason why England is mostly Protestant today, was that H8 wanted an "upgrade" and a younger woman to possibly have a son with- you never know what happens later, but I wonder if England would've ever adopted the Protestant religion if H8 had a son with C of A? Great videos!
One of my relatives who died in the late 19th Century is affectionately nicknamed "Henry VIII" by my family, due to the fact that he also had six wives (widowed five times, and the last one outlived him). Granted, there's no evidence that he had any of them killed.
@@spiralrose Correct. He lived and died in the 1800s, and while the details of each of his wives are scarce, at least one of them died in childbirth and at least one other died in some epidemic, cholera, I think. Even if one or more of the deaths had been suspicious in some way, he would have been hard to prosecute, as he was actually the local judge of the small farming district he lived in!
Anne of Cleves was the one who came out of the liaison with Henry VIII with the best result. Though Anne Boleyn's ghost scored a posthumous triumph over Henry via the magnificent reign of her daughter, Elizabeth 1st.
I suppose it's silly to play favourites but Katherine Howard seems to have been an unusually kind person - how many wives would have been as warm and generous to their husbands ex as Katherine was to Anna of Cleves?During her brief reign she interceded for a number of prisoners, one of whom was so grateful that he very bravely dedicated a book to her after her death. For someone who's prominence was so brief, there's a surprising amount of evidence to show that she was a kind person with a very big heart.
@@sidoniewinterpasternak9938 There's no doubt that she was capable of quite selfless generosity (ie, to Margaret Salisbury whose blankets and clothing she paid for herself, though she didn't even know her) but I see your point. Such behavior also suggests she may have been easily manipulated.
I feel bad for Katherine she was abused so much, and she seemed to have such a warm and loving heart. I think she would have done better if she had been exposed more to Anne of Cleves than Jane Rochford.
~Great! ⭐Thanks for posting. I've watched so many documentaries about the wives of H VIII and this one has much more background than anything else I've seen. As a history nerd (English history in particular) I very much appreciate this. 🇨🇦 Greetings from Canada. Hope everyone is well 😊
Anne and Mary’s time at the French court is interesting. I listened to a historian the other day who,said that the letters calling Mary the ‘French whore ‘ etc we’re not written till after the fact. After reading the letters carefully she said that all the negative things said about Mary were actually meant for Anne! It was written to defame Anne in her battle with Henry and against Catherine. It’s an interesting concept . 👵👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
This is why Anne was born in the earlier year given, that being 1501 rather than 1507. If she had been born in the latter year, that would have been too young to serve at a foreign court. Moreover, much had been said of Anne's time "running short" during the annulment struggle with Catherine of Aragon. She finally married Henry in 1533 when she was a relatively advanced 32 years of age, and was already pregnant with Elizabeth. In her later years as Queen, a foreign ambassador described her as "that thin old woman", an indicator that she was already into her mid-thirties. Her last failed pregnancy, a miscarriage in 1536, when she was going on 35, convinced Henry (who remembered Catherine's last failed pregnancy in her 33rd year) that he had to find a new wife if he wanted a male heir.
I didn’t know Anne of Cleves’s grave site was personally chosen by her step daughter, Queen Mary. That really does show the respect the Queen had for her. When I visited WMA a few years ago, I stumbled upon her grave stone; it felt as if I happened upon an old friend and I started to cry. Such a beautiful soul. ❤
An excellent documentary of Henry's six wives, with a lot I was not aware. Also a fresh look at how male historians have portrayed these women in the past and in many cases a different perspective on the conclusions they came to.
Catherine of Aragon was the daughter of Ferdinand and Isabella, she could not be anything else but badass. Catherine Howard was a naive girl who had been victimized as a pawn by her ambitious relatives, much like Lady Jane Grey would be. And both girls paid with their lives.
I agree. I feel bad for all of them, but for me Catherine Howard is the most tragic of them all because she as JUST A TEENAGER when she married Henry but yet she was expected to put all that aside to be a wife.
This is great, I remember you saying you were going to upload this compilation! So looking forward to listening to it - thanks so much for uploading. I'm just so fascinated with the stories of these six incredible women! These documentaries are so well done, easy to listen to and very easy to understand. This channel is brilliant and I'm so glad I subscribed - all the best.
Catherine was the true queen of England. In her right and her honour. I’d love to meet her, it’d be fascinating. Another I admire is Anna of Cleves . I think she was pretty and, if Henry could have got over his embarrassment, would have made him a good wife. She was of royal birth and knew the ways of a court. Wouldn’t it be interesting to know what would have happened. Thank you for the video. 👍👍👍👵👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
We only have Holbeins painting of Anne of Cleves to go on for what she looked like and he was accused of not painting a true likeness and making her look better than she really did so that Henry would marry her.
The general consensus of opinion was that Holbein would not have dared paint a false picture. That was his livelihood and, the fact that he continued painting for the Tudors ( and others oversees) they see as proof enough that the picture was accurate. He would not have dared! He wouldn’t have gotten other work. Their fame was their fortune 👵👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
All of Henry’s wives were incredible women and some severely manipulated and/or abused by the men in their families. I have sympathy for all of them, but the one I admire most is Katherine of Aragon. Completely devoted to her husband and so much stronger than anyone knew. (Catherine?-I’ve seen the name spelled both ways). I have often wondered how different history would have been if Katherine and Henry’s son had lived. Would Henry have left her? Would the break from Rome have happened? Would Elizabeth I ever been born? It boggles the mind. We will never know. Great channel and this video(s) were quite well done. Loved seeing the portraits and documents. Absolutely fascinating!
I really enjoyed this in-depth study of all the queens. I learned so much about each one of these women. Queen Catherine will always be my Queen, but Anne of Cleves is the one who I think came out best!
I recently learned that Catherine Parr is my 12th great grandmother. I've been searching for information about her since, and this documentary is the most informative source I've found. Thank you!
So rare to have a proper more or less unbiased account of all those extraordinary women's characters, especially one that doesn't prefer one over another or pit all against each other (tbh Henry is a lousy prize) but highlights each one in their own right, positive sides and all, also taking into account the xvi centuries circumstances for women girls nobility etc etc
History is a funny thing. Many figures are judged by writings of others. Those writings could be clouded by the political climate of the day. My opinions of Catherine of Aragon was she was treated horribly by Henry and the English gov’t. Anne Boleyn was treated worse. To be falsely accused and then executed after Henry’s pursuit of her was heartbreaking. How awful for both those women to suffer so many still births and miscarriages. I feel for everyone of his wives.
I feel for all of them too. Recently visited Hampton Court, amazing place, being immersed in the history there has made me think about what his wives went through on a deeper level. Sad.
Catherine was my favourite queen and wife of his. She did so much for England. She stopped the Scots from invading England and taking over England while being heavily pregnant. She stopped them on her own as Henry was away in France playing war with them. 🤷♀️
Katherine Parr also ruled the government while Henry was abroad without question from anyone....she was intelligent, educated and capable, just as Catherine of Aragon had been. The two women were very much alike.
Catherine Parr was my favorite among Henry VIII's wives for being the most intellectually curious one. She was not only named after her godmother Catherine of Aragon (my second favorite) but also inherited some of her qualities. A lot say that Henry VIII was looking for a nurse but he was actually looking for an equal, so he went back full circle with his choice in Catherine Parr. Though she maybe the survivor in accordance to the rhyme, it was Anne of Cleeves (my third favorite) who was the ultimate survivor.
I was a little put off at first by Katherine Parr's book being so stridently anti-feminist (not that such a concept existed in 16th century England), advising women "to be silent" and "obedient" to their husband's "in all things". But she WAS married to Henry Viii at the time! What else would you expect her to say? It's very amusing that she didn't practice what she preached and clearly didn't really believe this (thank God!). She must have really had a way with words and been VERY clever - Henry actually signed a warrant for her arrest but KP was able to reach him in time to convince him to revoke it, sitting up all night talking him out of it. I don't think anyone else ever outwitted Henry once his suspicions were aroused! Everyone always describes her as the one who "survived" (ignoring Anna of Cleves) but it was barely by a year which is so tragic. If only childbirth hadn't been so dangerous in those days. It would be wonderful if she'd lived to see her child grow up and died an old lady. Someone so erudite could have written a memoir and filled in so many gaps lost to us 500+ years later.
I'm here after watching the Tudors 😅 but I stayed for such an amazing documentary. Thank you for the amazing work. My favorite is Catherine of Aragon, she was a true queen, well educated and ready to fulfill her duty. At the end of the day, history is written by the winners, and a lot can be misunderstood, but I like to hear stories of historic figures. Sad that women were just tokens.
My favorite is Anne Boleyn. She is fascinating and I do feel for her because she was wrongly accused. She also gave birth to Elizabeth I, who is my favorite monarch. That being said, I do feel for all his doomed wives. They each had tragic lives and it didn’t help being born in a time when women weren’t valued by who they are but how many children, especially sons they could give.
00:02 🏰 Catherine of Aragon's Early Life and Family 00:44 🏛 Catherine's Education and Learning 03:31 🏰 The English Royal Family and the Tudor Claim to the Throne 09:08 📝 Marriage Negotiations and Treaty 10:16 🏰 Proxy Wedding and Catherine's to England 11:10 💔 Arthur's Death and Catherine's Widowhood 12:06 🤝 New Marriage Negotiations and Treaty 14:13 🏰 Spanish Royal Family Dynamics 15:10 🤔 Uncertainty and Renegotiation 18:23 🏰 The Marriage of Henry and Catherine 19:05 💼 Catherine's Influence and Henry's Reign 20:30 🏰 Henry's Foreign Policy and the War of the League of Cambrai 27:26 🏰 Catherine's Marriage to Henry VIII 29:12 📚 Catherine's Personality and Interests 32:02 🏰 Catherine's Isolation and Henry's Affairs 35:11 🏰 The King's Desire for a Male Heir 37:16 🏰 Henry's Search for a Legal Justification for Annulment 39:01 🏛 The Legatine Court and the Hearing 41:01 👑 The Tensions and Power Struggle 43:05 📜 The Rise of Thomas Cromwell and the English Reformation 46:37 🏰 Catherine's Refusal and the Rise of Anne Boleyn 47:05 🏰 The Annulment of Catherine's Marriage 47:47 🏰 Catherine's Isolation and Struggle 50:03 🏰 Public Support for Catherine 50:56 🏰 Catherine's Isolation and Decline 01:16:10 🤖 Henry's Relationship with Anne Boleyn 01:20:00 💼 The Development of Henry and Anne's Relationship 01:23:20 🏰 Henry's Divorce from Catherine of Aragon 01:26:31 🤖 Henry's Search for a Divorce 01:36:55 🤖 Henry's Consolidation of Power 01:40:11 💼 Thomas More's Refusal to Swear the Oath 01:46:09 ⚰ Catherine of Aragon's Demise and Anne's Struggle 01:47:33 🤖 Anne's Isolation and Desperation 01:52:47 💼 The King's Patience Wears Out 01:54:22 🚫 The Commission and Accusations 01:58:02 💔 Anne Boleyn's Trial and Execution 02:00:08 💼 Anne Boleyn's Last Moments 02:05:02 🏰 Jane Seymour's Early Life 02:08:34 🏰 Early Life and Education of Jane Seymour 02:10:12 🏰 Religious Instruction and Personality 02:14:17 🏰 Jane's Time at Court and Her Relationship with Anne Boleyn 02:18:35 💔 The Complex Relationship Between Henry and Jane 02:21:04 🤔 The Real Jane Seymour: A More Human and Ambitious Woman 02:24:11 🎧 The Affair Between Henry and Jane: Orchestrated or Organic? 02:25:47 👑 The Rise of Jane Seymour: A New Favorite at Court 02:28:43 🏰 Henry's Courtship of Jane Seymour 02:30:41 💏 Jane's Marriage to Henry 02:34:26 🏰 Jane's Influence on Henry's Decisions 02:49:30 🎨 Anna's Early Life and Education 02:55:11 🏰 Anna's Family and Court Life 02:56:19 🏰 Anna's Marriage Negotiations and Departure for England 03:09:31 🏰 Anna of Cleves' Divorce and New Arrangements 03:16:37 🏰 Catherine Howard's Early Life and Family 03:19:20 🏠 Catherine Howard's Early Life and Family 03:21:14 🏠 Catherine's Life in the Dowager Duchess's Household 03:24:11 🏠 Catherine's Personality and Upbringing 03:26:14 🏠 Catherine's Education and Training 03:28:03 🏠 Catherine's Relationships and Controversies 03:29:26 💼 Catherine's Relationship with Francis Dereham and the Maiden's Chamber 03:37:26 🏰 Catherine's Rise to Power and Her Relationship with Thomas Culpepper 03:38:20 👑 Henry VIII's Midlife Crisis and His Affair with Catherine Howard 03:39:30 🤖 Catherine's Role as Queen 03:44:11 💼 Catherine's Relationships with Henry's Children 03:46:31 🚫 Catherine's Downfall 03:59:36 💔 Catherine Howard's Execution and Final Speech 04:00:25 🤖 Historical Portrayal of Catherine Howard 04:02:09 🏰 Catherine Howard's Personality and Life 04:05:06 🎵 Catherine Parr's Life and Marriage 04:09:58 🏰 The Life of Catherine Parr, Lady Latimer 04:11:21 💼 Lord Latimer's Involvement in the Pilgrimage of Grace 04:14:29 💕 Catherine's Relationship with Lady Mary and Her Brother William
This is my second time listening to this and I love it. Thank you for your hard work. This is amazing. I’m a bit biased on my favorite queen being Anne B because I was introduced to the Tudor world when I was 12 after reading Doomed Queen Anne by Carolyn Meyer. Since then I’ve been obsessed with historical fictional books related to the Plantagenets and Tudors.
I have always wondered if anyone was brave enough to point out to Henry that in the Bible at Dueteronomy chapter 25 verses 5 and 6 that in the case where a man died without a child, the brother of the man could marry the widow of his brother and thus conceive a child who would be considered the child of the deceased man. That would mean that the child would be the future king or queen of England and Henry would have to step down as king.
Yes, that was one of the many arguments against "the great matter". Henry himself studied the bible extensively, but I think that in the end his need for a son and desire for Anne one out over any religious morality he might have had.
I strongly believe that the fall from his horse and blow to his head did some damage. Before that he was hot tempered but not as psychotic as he became. Catherine was amazing in standing up to him but its also important to remember this was in the beginning. At this point he hadn't killed any wives or his best friends. She couldn't know how much of a monster he would become. Catherine Parr on the other hand knew exactly what he was and managed to survive him. She was also able to contribute to Elizabeth's education and help chose Edwards tutors making sure they were led into the protestant religion. People may point to Anne as the one who shaped England but in reality, if Jane had lived and had been the one raising Elizabeth and Edward no doubt their tutors would have nudged them back into the Catholic religion.
@@juliannaciano1273To be honest we remember her because she lived longer and reigned longer than them. They all had very forward-revolutionary thinking (they did have a very good education, even for females) and if they had lived longer things would have been different. People who study the Tudors have said this.
The portraits of these women seem slightly haunting. What a horrible fate they met to have ever crossed paths with a psychopathic king. Thankfully most of the world is devoid of royalty although modern dictators act even worse.
Actually, the monarchy is often considered the best form of the government since it is usually financially secure, politically stable, and it has a vested, longtime interest in maintaining the people's support
I am related to Anne of Cleves on my mothers side. Without her resilience my family wouldn’t be here today, I wouldn’t be here today. I have always found her story so amazing. She was truly so intelligent and strong.
How is Anne's resilience connected to your family being here ? Anne had no children so the part of her family you are related to, is either her sister or her brothers, and their offspring. Anne is the most remarkable to me, but how you stated that above isn't factual .
@@patriciashelton6644 my family are the Funderburks/Funderbergs . Originally known as Von Der Berg family. That name stayed up until my grandmother married. It has been carried for centuries but now our namesake part of the kine is ending unfortunately. There’s a book tracing our lineage called Funderburk Castles and Conquests. It’s how I was able to trace us back to Anne and her family. Pretty amazing.
I often wonder how long Jane Seymour would have survived had she not produced the male heir. Henry wished to be interred beside her, but I just wonder if she didn't survive long enough to be tossed aside.
I get so irritated with the use of the Levitical verse Henry used which was/is taken out of context. If you look at the verse in context, you see that it referred to adultery with the wife of a living brother. Looking at Deuteronomy 25:5-10, we find the "levirate marriage." This actually required a man to marry his dead brother's widow in order to provide a heir for the dead brother. Henry VIII liked to cherry-pick his Bible verses to suit his desires and lusts.
I think Henry was more tolerant of Catherine because she was a foreign princess and because she was popular in England. If he had executed her it definitely would have resulted in war and possibly a civil war in England as well. Ann of Cleves gave Henry his annulment willingly and was treated well. The rest of his wives were his subjects.
He was "tolerant" by torturing the woman he was married to for over 20 years? He knew Spain would decimate England if he harmed her. He was nothing more than a bully, a tyrant and coward.
@@pattierotondo1108 It's all relative. He was pretty good to her until it was clear she would fail to bear him a son. She was never subjected to actual torture. He didn't have her beheaded. He probably would have liked to and he was happy when she died. Anne Boleyn failed in the same way plus she was a nag and no-one was going to war over her, (the one most responsible for Henry's ill treatment of Catherine.) Jane gave him a son but died in the process. Cleaves was content to go with the flow and lived a life of luxury at the English court. Howard was very young and very careless. Ironically, if her infidelities had resulted in her giving birth to another son for Henry, they probably would have been overlooked. Parr stayed out of trouble and survived, just barely.
Very trivial question here. I have always wondered why Prince Arthur and Catherine of Aragon were not taught Spanish and English as children. I believe they corresponded before their marriage in Latin, but discovered upon her arrival in England that they had been taught different pronunciations, so they struggled to communicate. Each received extensive education; the lack of each other's primary languages has always puzzled me.
I can only surmise that at the time of Catherine's birth and childhood her parents Ferdinand and Isabella did not consider an English Royal match for their daughter. The same with Henry VII. The Tudor dynasty was new, Henry had won the throne on the battlefield. At the time of Arthur's birth and through his childhood there was probably some uncertainty whether the dynasty could even survive. Other Royal Houses were perhaps wary of this very real possibility. It also seems that Henry only started to seriously consider a Royal match for his son when he reached his teens, so he didn't see to it that his son be taught to speak Spanish.
Katherine Howard was blackmailed into marrying Henry by her uncle who used her for his own advancement. He risked her life on a whim and search for wealth and gain. Henry was irresponsible for asking for her hand in marriage she was too young for him. His reputation as an experienced man could hardly call out a. girl who was inexperienced in this respect., yet she was accused of treason against him. An unfair investigation ensued regarding her honour against that of the KING's reputation. Henry as a responsible adult should have divorced her instead of allowing a death sentence to be placed upon her.
All of his wives should be pitied. None of them had control of their own lives. Imagine being forced by your own family to submit yourself to a man and you have no choice but to do as you are told or your family will suffer in disgrace. None of them really had a choice, not even Anne Boleyn. Henry was a sociopath.
Thanks for adding to my historical knowledge. I did not receive this information during my college history classes and it was not included in the history books I taught from at the high school level.
What happened to Catherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn, and Catherine Howard was tragic. Anne of Cleves was smart enough to get out when she did. People like to portray Anne Boleyn as a villain because she usurped Catherine of Aragon however as the video pointed out, Jane Seymour was no better. Jane is my least favourite of the six.
I like to think Anne of Cleves was the only one smart enough to avoid Henry's smell, his crabby personality, and didn't want him anymore than he wanted her.
Oh, boy, yet another beautifully narrated, well researched and eloquently delivered nearly 5 hour long documentary on the Royals of England!! What a joy! Thank you Peoples Profiles! I've already saved it to my History Playlist and am listening now! And will, as with all of your other really long docs, be sleeping to this, as the calm and soothing narration helps me to relax when I otherwise find it near impossible. Thank you so very much! Edit To Add : My personal favorite of all of the wives is Anne Of Cleves. As she seemingly was the luckiest and, in my opinion, the prettiest, in spite of what is widely claimed about her. In fact, she was beautiful. And I believe Henry thought so too, he just had so many issues and I think the marriage wasn't consummated because of Henrys inability to, err, rise to the occasion. 😅🤣 And, in addition, I feel that she was repulsed by him. So, she found it near impossible to become intimate herself. I may as well list my particular order, lol. So, Anne Of Cleves first Then, it would have to be Katherine of Aragon. Although, I always thought it odd that she would marry Henry after Arthur. And, in spite of popular belief, I kindly think she and Arthur may have consummated the marriage. I know her piety was admirable, though, and most use that as the reason for thinking she would never tell that lie, and I understand that sentiment. However, being a 16 year old widow in a foreign country, and having put all that time and effort in to becoming the Queen of England, I believe it possible that she indeed did lie. Third is Katherine Howard, as I have always felt so sorry for her. Though, I do find her rather flippant in her role as Queen, she was just a teenager who, I believe, was never taught correctly and never had guidance to behave any better. Then, it's Anne Boleyn fourth. I'd place her above this, if it were not for her conniving nature, and her way of handling The true Queen, Katherine of Aragon, along with the Princess Mary. She seemed rather cold in her treatment of them, as well as others once she became Queen. Next, Fifth place, is Katherine Parr, as I believe her heart wss in the right place. And I believe she was what the mean old smelly king needed at the point in which they were married. And finally, in Sixth place, last, is Jane Seymour. I place her last in spite of her giving Henry his long awaited male heir, and in spite of her being the only one given a Queens funeral and her being buried beside her King, because I think that she truly betrayed her Lady, The Queen, Anne, and went behind her back having an affair with Henry while Anne was pregnant. And I feel she was quite cold to Anne in the last moments of her life and afterward. Enjoy everyone. I know I will! 👸🤴👸🤴👸🤴👸🤴👸🤴👸🤴👸🤴👸🤴👸🤴👸🤴👸🤴
@@celinahatton2653 I did judge Anne, see my section on Anne. I just find Jane less, idk, less appealing than Anne, but again, this is just my opinion. I believe that's to be assumed, if I didn't state it. 😉
@@celinahatton2653 Jane's conduct is usually seen as borrowed from Anne Boleyn's playback. For me, this isn't a blame issue though. What was either lady to do when the monstrous Henry started pursuing them? Same for all his English wives.
They were all just trying to survive a capricious tyrant. They all had admirable qualities. I like Anne B slightly less than the others because she was cruel to her step daughter Mary.
A small objection - the events after the death of Edward IV are very convoluted, and there is room for questions and doubts about the accepted version of how and why Richard III came to the throne, and what may have or have not happened to Edward V and his brother Richard. I do wish there had been a broader summary of the events leading to the victory of Henry Tudor.
Anne of Cleves definitely made out the best of the wives. Catherine Parr outlived Henry as well, but died only a year and a half later giving birth to her cheating husband Thomas Seymour's child. And the child, a daughter, died not long afterward.
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Agreed! She is my ancestor and there is no mention of any scandal in France until Anne 's downfall. Mary may have actually gone home with Mary Tudor when married to Charles Brandon. Then Mary Boleyn served Katherine of Aragon and was wed to William Carey. If there was scandal in France she would not have been wed to such an up and coming courtier a friend to the King. She would have been considered unsuitable to serve the Queen.
Plus her affair with Henry is very shadowy. When and how long it lasted is a mystery. It is possible possible only her daughter Catherine was Henry's. I am Catherine Carey's descendant.
It is curious that Richard III should be accused of usurping the throne when he was legally requested by the Council and legally crowned , after the scandal of Edward's previous weddings came to light, disinheriting the 2 young Princes. Henry VII was a true usurper , and he never forgot it. The Tudors did their best to rewrite history.
Anne did not have an extra finger, that was a lie and proven as such when her bones were recovered. Do you honestly think Henry would have been the least bit interested in her had that been true considering she already did not fit the beauty standard of their times? The mole on her neck was also another lie.
@@PeopleProfiles Oh no I’m not saying you said it, I’m saying this based off of those rumors that were circulated then about her by her enemies. I’m sorry if it implied I was saying it as if you were saying this about her. Sorry 🙂
If she had a sixth finger, it would have been cut out when she was a baby, so it wouldnt be shown... And there is not certainty that any bone recovered was actually hers. A sixth finger is also "atrofiated" and barely leaves marks on the other bones of the hand. Also, Anne and her family would have conceiled such a secret from the outside world as much as they could as it was a disgrace. But is highly likely that she might have been born with one. The mole of her neck is real, even more so that the finger as many accounts suggest it and effectively, she could not properly hide such a thing.
@@Alejojojo6 polydaktily (extra digits) are one of the most common mutations. Moles on the neck are not uncommon either. I don't think these "flaws" would of put Henry off Anne.
Haven't finished watching this yet but seems like a case of 'he said, she said'. And Henry, being the King; well... I guess ultimately it was his 'he said' that prevailed. People of the time knew which side of the bread was buttered and there wasn't much that could have been done about it (without facing serious consequences for themselves and their families). Katherine didn't stand much of chance one the tide started turning. Not even with the Church once Henry broke away. No one was willing to go to war for her.
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Yes... Catherine of Aragon was right to resist the divorce because Henry didn't want a divorce until he met someone else. She married him in good faith and didn't need all the drama from beginning to end. Henry was a jerk.
No one was willing to go to war for her & obviously she couldn't do it alone. The cards were stacked against her since almost the beginning but really not much she could do although she fought valiantly for herself and for Mary.
There is no doubt that Henry VIII fell deeply in love with Anne Boleyn, and no doubt her high intellect was part of the attraction. However, if Catherine had provided the male heir Henry wanted it is extremely doubtful that Henry would have broken with Rome to marry Anne. Anne simply saw an opportunity and took it. By all accounts she was an extremely arrogant and spiteful woman. She wasn't satisfied with replacing Catherine - she gloated in the fact that Mary had been made illegitimate by Henry and went out of her way to humiliate her. Mary was forced to wait on the infant Elizabeth. Anne also told people in Elizabeth's house hold that if Mary were to say she was a princess, that they should 'slap her face for the accursed bastard that she is'. Anne had no sympathy for Catherine either, and said she would 'rather see her hang' than acknowledge her as queen. Anne created the machinery in order for Henry to rid himself of Catherine - how ironic it was that this machinery was to turn on her when she found herself in exactly the same position as Catherine had been. Anne was not a pleasant character and women did not warm to her, so it would not be surprising if Jane Seymour disliked her and had no sympathy for her during her downfall and no guilt about stepping into her shoes. Anne, after all, had had no sympathy for Catherine or her daughter Mary. While imprisoned in the tower Anne began to reflect on how she had treated Catherine and Mary and expressed regret for this. No doubt she was thinking of her own daughter Elizabeth who was now in the same situation Mary had been. Anne of Cleves seems like a kind woman. The issue of her looks is somewhat perplexing - her mother, sister and brother looked attractive, so it is difficult to understand how Anne was so repulsive to Henry. Unless it was simply a lack of sexual chemistry. Anne was sensible in accepting the divorce and not making an issue about religion, which was quite unusual for the time.
She wasn’t liked at all, I find it strange that no one comprehends that. That’s why people had no issues with trying to get rid of her. I don’t believe she was guilty of her charges but I believe in the rumors of her “previous marriage”. Anne was not a kind woman as people are trying to portray her as nowadays.
@@bre1408 people did like her, but her behavior was considered good for a mistress and court goer, not a queen. She started to wear a little thin but the end of everything too based off of a lot of accounts but we have to also take stuff with a grain of salt since there isn’t much objective truth in surviving documents. It’s like having to pick out what seems most consistently mentioned and b viable for the time given critical thought to the set up and contextual history. She seemed to become a bit more paranoid (rightfully so) by the end of her life but she overall was pretty level for the most part and seemed to be painted as a vile evil temptress to justify the false crimes she was arrested for
@@susangavaghan I mentioned it in my other comment here but “historical facts” for stuff like character of court and royalty at this time is a bit dodgy, especially when it’s a disgraced queen in a patriarchal society There’s a lot more wishy washy shit and room for error Unfortunate because I would love to have better objective accounts of all sorts of different people from this kind of time but alas, for Henry’s wives it’s a bit more eh unless they had a large legacy or background
I admire Catherine of Aragon’s courage; Anne is a perfect example of being careful what one wishes for; Jane Seymour was lucky to have given Henry the son he ruined so many to gain, and then died before she could displease him. I think Anne of Cleves was one smart cookie. I pity Katherine Howard greatly, for she was so young and had not been raised with any principals; she was entirely out of her league. Katherine Parr (three Katherine’s!) was fortunate too, in surviving Henry, but was not fortunate enough to survive Thomas Seymour. All in all, I am not an admirer of Henry VIII.
ANNE was very hands on getting herself on the throne of England. Yes her father and Uncle Howard played their parts in helping her but it was Anne's will and ability to use her intelligence and feminine guile as well as taking a page out of Elizabeth Woodville "I wont be your mistress" (no boda bing without a ring)! playbook and added her own spin to it. Jane's brothers and father were the ones that pulled the strings and played off Jane's natural soft quite nature to appeal to the King which after Annes fiery temper, Henry ate up Jane submissive personality with a spoon. Jane also on her own checked out Elizabeth Woodville's playbook with Annes notes in the margins.
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Anne of Cleves will always be my favorite. She knew how pointless it was to fight against Henry and in doing so managed to survive to become one of the richest women of her time. She managed to carve out a happy life for herself and her household.
I’m sure she got the message…
He heartlessly divorced the love of his life after 20 years because she couldn’t produce a male heir, forced her into exile, refused her access to her only child, Called their daughter who had previously been the Pearl of his court, a bastard and humiliated her and her mother while he took up with adulterous Anne. Married pregnant Anne before his trumped up divorce. Then after Anne gave him another daughter, miscarriages and no sons, he was done with her. So he devised her beheading, after the most shocking false accusations of incest against her, she had to watch her brothers execution while their father had to agree with the king’s judgment. After Jane Seymour died giving the king a son, I’m sure Ann of Cleves was more than happy to quietly step aside and allow Henry’s rage to fall on anyone else’s life.
She also knew she was completely out of her depth at the English Court. She was educated, but not in how to navigate the political and social world of a royal court. Her father kept his daughters ignorant of carnal knowledge. I remember watching a documentary that shared that the court was completely unaware that the marriage was not consummated. In fact, Anne was completely unaware that it hadn’t! When 1 of her German ladies in waiting asked her if they had “sealed the deal,” she told her that yes they had. She explained that every night, Henry escorts her to her bed and kisses her on her hand! That was what she thought was sex!
I think she dodged a huge bullet
@@escapistfromhell1543 a public beheading at least!
@@JenaEmerald it's believed that Anne was a good and modest person and the charges against her were completely false. The adulterous stuff was just propaganda to make the public dislike her so Henry didn't seem completely insane. In all the love letters they wrote to one another, she constantly refused to be his mistress and would not sleep with anyone she wasn't married to. There is a lot of evidence like this that supports she wasn't.. well.. a whore😂
My inconsequential opinion of Catherine of Aragon is that she was a perfect example of a "wronged woman". She did as she was raised to do, did it extraordinarily well and for decades, and was brushed aside both by her husband and from history for her tenacity, faith and standing firm in the right. She was every inch a Queen. I hope her spirit is resting well and at peace, in the knowledge that she never gave in to a psychopathic spouse who, in the end, prove utterly faithless and cruel.
I add to this that we all must remember that this was the 16th century when women were considered chattel to be bartered, loaned, eschewed, even beaten to death, perfectly legally. These women had no choice in what happened to them once Henry VIII began to seek them out for his bed, either within or outside of marriage. They had to be one thing, and one thing only: obedient.
I do love the true queen Catherine
Unfortunately, Catherine is probably in Hades, because she was a false Christian and guilty of her own misdeeds. She never should have married into the Tudor Family and should have been free to marry an older Spanish man of her own choice. Sadly for her, she was denied.
I agree, she couldn't give up her position. None of it was her fault.
Catherine was a good Queen and faithful wife to Henry. I always felt sad for her and read that she died of a broken heart. Her parents, Ferdinand and Isabella were my ancestors so I am always interested to find as much information as I can.
Catherine Howard's story always breaks my heart. She was a young, kind, girl who stepped into, or was pushed into, a maelstrom. She was doomed from the moment she caught his eye.
Yeah... She was caught in a Hurricane, not of her own making... But by others who sought power and influence. Now that I consider it. I find I am more and ore disgusted with the actions of these people.
I find it funny you thought she was kind.
@@heatherinch3802 She was kind. She was good to her relatives and was good to the Pole family, who were persecuted by Henry VIII because Henry feared they had a better claim to the throne than he did. That was courageous of her.
She was a little bit of a tart, wasn't she?
@@pattierotondo1108 She cheated on the King knowing exactly what would happen to her if she got caught. Stupid.
I believe Anne of Cleeves gave him a first-hand glimpse into how women truly saw him. Not as King, but as a man. Her initial recoiling from him most definitely shattered his ego. And he did what any classic narcissist would do, he feigned his own exaggerated repulsion in her. He couldn’t bed her because he knew she was disgusted by him. Poor Catherine Howard was a mere tool to mend his fragile ego, and probably even as a sly dig at Anne. 😄
And, as stated by the narrator, given Henry’s poor state of health, with his smelly leg, likely gangrenous, ultimately played a large part in his declining health and could well have been the reason he had erectile dysfunction. The great King could never be known to be impotent, so he blamed that on poor Anne of Cleves’
looks! She played her hand well, came from a society that valued both sexes more equally and knew enough of Henry’s horridly untrustworthy demeanour, to play the cards she was dealt, to find favour from him. I find it quite sad that she died so young, but am glad that she was laid to rest in Westminster Abbey, with so many others’ whom were honoured greatly, being entombed there.
A historic version of todays men complimenting a woman, the woman rejecting him, and then the man verbally assaults the woman calling her ugly etc. 🙄
@Jenthepen lol just because personality disorders didn’t “exist” doesn’t mean people didn’t have them
@Jenthepen also “modern english history” ?? the person was referring to Anne’s German parents who did have quite equal footing, and were both powerful political figures. Anne was taught things english women were not taught at the time. google is free.
I had never considered that prespective. Thank you most kindly :)
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I'd like to comment on Anne of Cleeves. I think she had extraordinary courage to take on Henry VIII. She proved herself a faithful friend and loyal to her adopted country. In a sense, she got the best deal of the 6 wives. She became the King's sister with a handsome annuity and lavish surroundings. She was honoured at court for the rest of her life and made every effort to include the Princesses Mary and Elizabeth. No wife could have been more faithful, and I don't mean her innocence in the bed chamber. She did as every 16th century wife was commanded to do and managed to offend no one; that in itself was a triumph considering the odds and the characters involved. Well done Your Grace, very well done indeed.
Unpopular opinion: nobody wants to say Anne Boleyn was their fave but I have to hold her somewhere dear for her troubles and the fact she gave us one of the greatest queens in memory: Elizabeth I.
She was my favorite and I believe that crap that got her killed was only to make room for a new "baby maker"
Anne Boleyn is my favorite
She's literally the most "popular" of the wives...
Also inadvertently, the Anglican church.
@@HelenBurns-y8c Well…I’m speaking as a Catholic 😂
That being said, she influenced Henry and brought Protestantism to England very much on purpose as a fan of Martin Luther and possessing his writings.
Anne Boleyn was basically put to the sword for failing to produce a male heir for a King who became a mental case after a bad fall from his horse. I don't care if she was Saint or sinner. What was done to Anne for something over which she had no control whatsoever is both dark and tragic. It becomes even more tragic if you consider the state of "medicine" in 1536. It is one of the most fascinating "what if's" in all of English history to consider how much better off so many people might have been if Henry VIII had died at the jousting tournament, as he almost did when the horse fell on a royal jackass!
Odd viewpoint, some strange inaccuracies and misconceptions, but not really a great surprise, considering!
@@debbierowley8833 Considering what? There are surviving records in which people at Court talk about the personality change that befell Henry VIII after that jousting accent on 24 January 1536. By all accounts, he was blacked out for 3/4 of an hour as a direct result of the incident and no one was sure he would ever wake up again. The fact that he did changed the history of his reign much for the worse. The fact that he suffered a brain injury is almost certain. It altered his personality. As to what happened to Anne Boleyn, she said it herself. After her miscarriage,(29 January 1536) she said "I am misdelivered of my savior." She knew that the death of what would have been a son for the King was her own death sentence. She was not at fault. Henry used it in part to rid himself of Anne in favour of Jane Seymour (who died two weeks after giving birth to Edward the 6th 12 October 1537.) Henry had 3 more wives to go thru before his death in January 1547. The man who was once considered as having the best legs in the Kingdom died an obese beast of a man feared by all around him. On the whole I think the dogs who lapped up his blood got the best part of him. My own judgement of him is that he degenerated into a pig. After all, he helped establish the definition. One has to wonder where England would be if his brother Arthur had lived to take the throne and Henry had become only a footnote as another carousing prince.
@@simsdanceparty9320 The thing is: Who was it that left Anne such a " a small window of time" to have a son? By the time of her miscarriage, Henry was already looking to replace her. Anne might have had the chance to bear more children, but she was never given the chance, was she? Whom and how Henry "loved" is subjective. We do know however that Henry's later wives took lessons from the fate of Anne. The days of anyone getting close to the shark without being afraid of the teeth ended with the murder of Anne B.
Had he died... Yeah, it would have been easier.. but the lack of a male heir might have seen a wars of the roses: tudors edition... or worse?.
Who knows how things might have unfolded had he actually died... it might have been easier for her... but we can';t know how things would have happened otherwise.
I completely agree because it would have skipped over all the people Henry killed after that and all the people Bloody Mary killed and all the people Edward killed (not nearly as many). If it would have gone straight from Anne to her daughter Elizabeth so many English people would have survived.
Divorced, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded and survived.
General rule of thumb don't marry Henry viii
I always found it interesting that died and survived (Jane Seymour and Catherine Parr) both died from Childbirth. It's even speculated that both Catherine of Aragon and Anne of Cleves both died of cancer. If that were to be true than there were really only 3 fates for his wives, Cancer, beheading and dying in the childbed
@@Anna-gg9wj wow didn't think of it like that very good point Anna.
.......not unless you have more than one head.
But wasn't Anne of cleves annulled?
@@candicabral3767 Was it? gotta check
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Excellent presentation. Anna of Cleves was a very smart lady. She saw the "handwriting on the wall" and gladly took the exit Henry offered her. Though, by this time, he was definitely no prize to any woman.
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It’s a nice story-and one I used to enjoy. However, Anne and her brother attempted to renew her marriage to Henry following Catherine Howard’s execution. When he married Catherine Parr, a contemporary report describes Anne’s disappointment and resentment, particularly since his sixth wife was older than she was.
It’s certainly fun to imagine Anne cleverly recognizing her good luck and settling into life as the “King’s sister.” Perhaps at some point she did. However, the people in the past had their own motives.
@edoboleyn They probably knew he wasn't long for the world and wanted the throne. Her being a foreign princess meant her head was safe, so why not try to get more power?
Anne of cleaves ironically fared one of the best as she was treated like a sister & lived incredibly comfortably economically & carefully negotiated out of death from Henry or her brother
Amongst all these wives, it sounds like Anna of Cleves was the luckiest one. Everyone said Catherine Parr was the survivor, but she only outlived Henry by a year (but I do understand that she managed to evade execution, although in the end she ended up in the clutches of Thomas Seymour...and there were rumors about him and his character...).
But it seems like Anna was the real survivor here, no disrespect to Catherine Parr or the other queens, they all kind of got a raw deal being married to him. But it seems like Anna of Cleves didn't just survive, she thrived as well.
Really all of them deserved better.
Anna did the best out of Henry's wives. I think she was a very intelligent young woman.
@@leonieromanes7265 I think so too. She really does deserve a more in depth series about her life or book or movie.
Agree!
@@mayaalieva938 So very true….I would like to hear more details about her relationship with her own family, especially her brother whom she feared would go after Henry for rejecting her. I did see a document., on YT, or PBS, or The History Channel, called Anne of Cleve’s, the Ugly One? It gave descriptions and showed paintings of her in her homeland and she definitely was not ugly!!! I think this was Henry trying to cover for his own E.D. As so many have said in the comments, this King turned into a dictatorial monster, whom made six women’s lives hell, in one way or another! Thank goodness they didn’t have to sing God Save The King until the start of the 19th Century! EGADFRY!
Thomas Seymour was _not_ an upgrade after Henry, even at his grossest, cruelest, and most paranoid. Poor Catherine.
Catherine of Aragon deserves huge props for standing up for herself, her faith, and her heritage. She came from ambitious parents, strong parents, so she had the genes. Back then, if she had been born a man, what a Sovereign she would've been. Its wild to think about the fact that the only reason why England is mostly Protestant today, was that H8 wanted an "upgrade" and a younger woman to possibly have a son with- you never know what happens later, but I wonder if England would've ever adopted the Protestant religion if H8 had a son with C of A? Great videos!
One of my relatives who died in the late 19th Century is affectionately nicknamed "Henry VIII" by my family, due to the fact that he also had six wives (widowed five times, and the last one outlived him). Granted, there's no evidence that he had any of them killed.
Lol
Have the cops ever looked into that guy? It is exceedingly rare to be a widower twice over let alone five times
Never mind, I see he died in the late 18th century
A few of his wives probably died in childbirth back then, so it’s a little less suspicious now
@@spiralrose Correct. He lived and died in the 1800s, and while the details of each of his wives are scarce, at least one of them died in childbirth and at least one other died in some epidemic, cholera, I think. Even if one or more of the deaths had been suspicious in some way, he would have been hard to prosecute, as he was actually the local judge of the small farming district he lived in!
Now that would make a hell of a tale around the dinner table :)
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Anne of Cleves was the one who came out of the liaison with Henry VIII with the best result. Though Anne Boleyn's ghost scored a posthumous triumph over Henry via the magnificent reign of her daughter, Elizabeth 1st.
I suppose it's silly to play favourites but Katherine Howard seems to have been an unusually kind person - how many wives would have been as warm and generous to their husbands ex as Katherine was to Anna of Cleves?During her brief reign she interceded for a number of prisoners, one of whom was so grateful that he very bravely dedicated a book to her after her death. For someone who's prominence was so brief, there's a surprising amount of evidence to show that she was a kind person with a very big heart.
Maybe her "unusual kindness, warm and generosity" had been her undoing
@@sidoniewinterpasternak9938 There's no doubt that she was capable of quite selfless generosity (ie, to Margaret Salisbury whose blankets and clothing she paid for herself, though she didn't even know her) but I see your point. Such behavior also suggests she may have been easily manipulated.
I feel bad for Katherine she was abused so much, and she seemed to have such a warm and loving heart. I think she would have done better if she had been exposed more to Anne of Cleves than Jane Rochford.
I love queen Anne she was pure and honest,and her daughter Elizabeth is a testament,Long Live Queen Anne Bolyen
~Great! ⭐Thanks for posting. I've watched so many documentaries about the wives of H VIII and this one has much more background than anything else I've seen. As a history nerd (English history in particular) I very much appreciate this. 🇨🇦 Greetings from Canada. Hope everyone is well 😊
Anne and Mary’s time at the French court is interesting. I listened to a historian the other day who,said that the letters calling Mary the ‘French whore ‘ etc we’re not written till after the fact. After reading the letters carefully she said that all the negative things said about Mary were actually meant for Anne! It was written to defame Anne in her battle with Henry and against Catherine. It’s an interesting concept . 👵👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
This is why Anne was born in the earlier year given, that being 1501 rather than 1507. If she had been born in the latter year, that would have been too young to serve at a foreign court. Moreover, much had been said of Anne's time "running short" during the annulment struggle with Catherine of Aragon. She finally married Henry in 1533 when she was a relatively advanced 32 years of age, and was already pregnant with Elizabeth. In her later years as Queen, a foreign ambassador described her as "that thin old woman", an indicator that she was already into her mid-thirties. Her last failed pregnancy, a miscarriage in 1536, when she was going on 35, convinced Henry (who remembered Catherine's last failed pregnancy in her 33rd year) that he had to find a new wife if he wanted a male heir.
Mmm... I had not considered the matter from that perspective. Thank you for the notion :)
Correct! Anne and my ancestor Mary were both vilified.
I didn’t know Anne of Cleves’s grave site was personally chosen by her step daughter, Queen Mary. That really does show the respect the Queen had for her. When I visited WMA a few years ago, I stumbled upon her grave stone; it felt as if I happened upon an old friend and I started to cry. Such a beautiful soul. ❤
I think that Henry did Catherine a great disservice! I believe she a very brave and courageous woman.
An excellent documentary of Henry's six wives, with a lot I was not aware. Also a fresh look at how male historians have portrayed these women in the past and in many cases a different perspective on the conclusions they came to.
Anne of Cleeves has always been my favorite of the six wives of Henry VIII. She not only was a survivor; but, she thrived.
She outlived them all. She was wise to get away from the crazy tyrant, Henry VIII.
I think Katherine of Aragon is my favorite. So badass.
Catherine Howard is just so sad and tragic.
Catherine of Aragon was the daughter of Ferdinand and Isabella, she could not be anything else but badass. Catherine Howard was a naive girl who had been victimized as a pawn by her ambitious relatives, much like Lady Jane Grey would be. And both girls paid with their lives.
So tragic events! My favourite Anne Boleyn
I agree. I feel bad for all of them, but for me Catherine Howard is the most tragic of them all because she as JUST A TEENAGER when she married Henry but yet she was expected to put all that aside to be a wife.
so were many girls. @@LotusStitchandSketch
This is great, I remember you saying you were going to upload this compilation! So looking forward to listening to it - thanks so much for uploading. I'm just so fascinated with the stories of these six incredible women! These documentaries are so well done, easy to listen to and very easy to understand. This channel is brilliant and I'm so glad I subscribed - all the best.
Thank you so much for such a long and comprehensive documentary! Listening to this whole thing whilst powering through spreadsheets at work.
Catherine was the true queen of England. In her right and her honour. I’d love to meet her, it’d be fascinating. Another I admire is Anna of Cleves . I think she was pretty and, if Henry could have got over his embarrassment, would have made him a good wife. She was of royal birth and knew the ways of a court. Wouldn’t it be interesting to know what would have happened. Thank you for the video. 👍👍👍👵👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Which Catherine 😂
Never. AB till I die!
We only have Holbeins painting of Anne of Cleves to go on for what she looked like and he was accused of not painting a true likeness and making her look better than she really did so that Henry would marry her.
The general consensus of opinion was that Holbein would not have dared paint a false picture. That was his livelihood and, the fact that he continued painting for the Tudors ( and others oversees) they see as proof enough that the picture was accurate. He would not have dared! He wouldn’t have gotten other work. Their fame was their fortune 👵👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
@@gonefishing167 I wonder how the gap then between her painted image and her in real life was said to be so different.
All of Henry’s wives were incredible women and some severely manipulated and/or abused by the men in their families. I have sympathy for all of them, but the one I admire most is Katherine of Aragon. Completely devoted to her husband and so much stronger than anyone knew. (Catherine?-I’ve seen the name spelled both ways). I have often wondered how different history would have been if Katherine and Henry’s son had lived. Would Henry have left her? Would the break from Rome have happened? Would Elizabeth I ever been born? It boggles the mind. We will never know. Great channel and this video(s) were quite well done. Loved seeing the portraits and documents. Absolutely fascinating!
Her loyalty should be an insiration to us all..... But, that's just me.
It would be the traditional spelling the Catherine with a K is more Modern
I agree with you 100%. Very well said. This channel is amazing and I love listening to it and adore all the video's.
It's sad that Catherine of Aragon died a lonely and unwanted woman
I agree ! she deserved better !
In poverty.
she was not unwanted.
She was the real true Queen epitomised devotion in marriage
So excited about this video. Great topic and it’s so nice having a video with all of the six wives. Thanks!!
I really enjoyed this in-depth study of all the queens. I learned so much about each one of these women. Queen Catherine will always be my Queen, but Anne of Cleves is the one who I think came out best!
I recently learned that Catherine Parr is my 12th great grandmother. I've been searching for information about her since, and this documentary is the most informative source I've found. Thank you!
Wait, how is Catherine Parr your 12th great grandmother when she only had one child who died in childhood and didn't live to adulthood
its quite amazing, how m any people are descended from Tudor queens@@Chloe.Miller21
She can’t be your great grandmother
Really!!! Wow that's super cool😊
So rare to have a proper more or less unbiased account of all those extraordinary women's characters, especially one that doesn't prefer one over another or pit all against each other (tbh Henry is a lousy prize) but highlights each one in their own right, positive sides and all, also taking into account the xvi centuries circumstances for women girls nobility etc etc
History is a funny thing. Many figures are judged by writings of others. Those writings could be clouded by the political climate of the day. My opinions of Catherine of Aragon was she was treated horribly by Henry and the English gov’t. Anne Boleyn was treated worse. To be falsely accused and then executed after Henry’s pursuit of her was heartbreaking. How awful for both those women to suffer so many still births and miscarriages. I feel for everyone of his wives.
I feel for all of them too. Recently visited Hampton Court, amazing place, being immersed in the history there has made me think about what his wives went through on a deeper level. Sad.
Catherine was my favourite queen and wife of his. She did so much for England. She stopped the Scots from invading England and taking over England while being heavily pregnant. She stopped them on her own as Henry was away in France playing war with them. 🤷♀️
She was a great woman.
Katherine Parr also ruled the government while Henry was abroad without question from anyone....she was intelligent, educated and capable, just as Catherine of Aragon had been. The two women were very much alike.
This channel definitely deserves way more subscribers 💯💯
Catherine Parr was my favorite among Henry VIII's wives for being the most intellectually curious one. She was not only named after her godmother Catherine of Aragon (my second favorite) but also inherited some of her qualities. A lot say that Henry VIII was looking for a nurse but he was actually looking for an equal, so he went back full circle with his choice in Catherine Parr. Though she maybe the survivor in accordance to the rhyme, it was Anne of Cleeves (my third favorite) who was the ultimate survivor.
I was a little put off at first by Katherine Parr's book being so stridently anti-feminist (not that such a concept existed in 16th century England), advising women "to be silent" and "obedient" to their husband's "in all things". But she WAS married to Henry Viii at the time! What else would you expect her to say? It's very amusing that she didn't practice what she preached and clearly didn't really believe this (thank God!). She must have really had a way with words and been VERY clever - Henry actually signed a warrant for her arrest but KP was able to reach him in time to convince him to revoke it, sitting up all night talking him out of it. I don't think anyone else ever outwitted Henry once his suspicions were aroused! Everyone always describes her as the one who "survived" (ignoring Anna of Cleves) but it was barely by a year which is so tragic. If only childbirth hadn't been so dangerous in those days. It would be wonderful if she'd lived to see her child grow up and died an old lady. Someone so erudite could have written a memoir and filled in so many gaps lost to us 500+ years later.
@@Mark-Smeaton her daughter was said to have died an infant. But even until now childbirth remains dangerous to every woman out there.
Childbirth is still dangerous today, even in developed countries.
I'm here after watching the Tudors 😅 but I stayed for such an amazing documentary. Thank you for the amazing work. My favorite is Catherine of Aragon, she was a true queen, well educated and ready to fulfill her duty. At the end of the day, history is written by the winners, and a lot can be misunderstood, but I like to hear stories of historic figures. Sad that women were just tokens.
My favorite is Anne Boleyn. She is fascinating and I do feel for her because she was wrongly accused. She also gave birth to Elizabeth I, who is my favorite monarch.
That being said, I do feel for all his doomed wives. They each had tragic lives and it didn’t help being born in a time when women weren’t valued by who they are but how many children, especially sons they could give.
oddly Anne boleyn/ and catherine reminds me of my mom.. I can identify wit queen Elizabeth 1 alot
anne boleyn was really abusive towards mary tudor, i despise her for that
@@nbdjz1058Actually there is little evidence to prove this.
@@makennaharris2965 as a history student, i would disagree with that
00:02 🏰 Catherine of Aragon's Early Life and Family
00:44 🏛 Catherine's Education and Learning
03:31 🏰 The English Royal Family and the Tudor Claim to the Throne
09:08 📝 Marriage Negotiations and Treaty
10:16 🏰 Proxy Wedding and Catherine's to England
11:10 💔 Arthur's Death and Catherine's Widowhood
12:06 🤝 New Marriage Negotiations and Treaty
14:13 🏰 Spanish Royal Family Dynamics
15:10 🤔 Uncertainty and Renegotiation
18:23 🏰 The Marriage of Henry and Catherine
19:05 💼 Catherine's Influence and Henry's Reign
20:30 🏰 Henry's Foreign Policy and the War of the League of Cambrai
27:26 🏰 Catherine's Marriage to Henry VIII
29:12 📚 Catherine's Personality and Interests
32:02 🏰 Catherine's Isolation and Henry's Affairs
35:11 🏰 The King's Desire for a Male Heir
37:16 🏰 Henry's Search for a Legal Justification for Annulment
39:01 🏛 The Legatine Court and the Hearing
41:01 👑 The Tensions and Power Struggle
43:05 📜 The Rise of Thomas Cromwell and the English Reformation
46:37 🏰 Catherine's Refusal and the Rise of Anne Boleyn
47:05 🏰 The Annulment of Catherine's Marriage
47:47 🏰 Catherine's Isolation and Struggle
50:03 🏰 Public Support for Catherine
50:56 🏰 Catherine's Isolation and Decline
01:16:10 🤖 Henry's Relationship with Anne Boleyn
01:20:00 💼 The Development of Henry and Anne's Relationship
01:23:20 🏰 Henry's Divorce from Catherine of Aragon
01:26:31 🤖 Henry's Search for a Divorce
01:36:55 🤖 Henry's Consolidation of Power
01:40:11 💼 Thomas More's Refusal to Swear the Oath
01:46:09 ⚰ Catherine of Aragon's Demise and Anne's Struggle
01:47:33 🤖 Anne's Isolation and Desperation
01:52:47 💼 The King's Patience Wears Out
01:54:22 🚫 The Commission and Accusations
01:58:02 💔 Anne Boleyn's Trial and Execution
02:00:08 💼 Anne Boleyn's Last Moments
02:05:02 🏰 Jane Seymour's Early Life
02:08:34 🏰 Early Life and Education of Jane Seymour
02:10:12 🏰 Religious Instruction and Personality
02:14:17 🏰 Jane's Time at Court and Her Relationship with Anne Boleyn
02:18:35 💔 The Complex Relationship Between Henry and Jane
02:21:04 🤔 The Real Jane Seymour: A More Human and Ambitious Woman
02:24:11 🎧 The Affair Between Henry and Jane: Orchestrated or Organic?
02:25:47 👑 The Rise of Jane Seymour: A New Favorite at Court
02:28:43 🏰 Henry's Courtship of Jane Seymour
02:30:41 💏 Jane's Marriage to Henry
02:34:26 🏰 Jane's Influence on Henry's Decisions
02:49:30 🎨 Anna's Early Life and Education
02:55:11 🏰 Anna's Family and Court Life
02:56:19 🏰 Anna's Marriage Negotiations and Departure for England
03:09:31 🏰 Anna of Cleves' Divorce and New Arrangements
03:16:37 🏰 Catherine Howard's Early Life and Family
03:19:20 🏠 Catherine Howard's Early Life and Family
03:21:14 🏠 Catherine's Life in the Dowager Duchess's Household
03:24:11 🏠 Catherine's Personality and Upbringing
03:26:14 🏠 Catherine's Education and Training
03:28:03 🏠 Catherine's Relationships and Controversies
03:29:26 💼 Catherine's Relationship with Francis Dereham and the Maiden's Chamber
03:37:26 🏰 Catherine's Rise to Power and Her Relationship with Thomas Culpepper
03:38:20 👑 Henry VIII's Midlife Crisis and His Affair with Catherine Howard
03:39:30 🤖 Catherine's Role as Queen
03:44:11 💼 Catherine's Relationships with Henry's Children
03:46:31 🚫 Catherine's Downfall
03:59:36 💔 Catherine Howard's Execution and Final Speech
04:00:25 🤖 Historical Portrayal of Catherine Howard
04:02:09 🏰 Catherine Howard's Personality and Life
04:05:06 🎵 Catherine Parr's Life and Marriage
04:09:58 🏰 The Life of Catherine Parr, Lady Latimer
04:11:21 💼 Lord Latimer's Involvement in the Pilgrimage of Grace
04:14:29 💕 Catherine's Relationship with Lady Mary and Her Brother William
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This is my second time listening to this and I love it. Thank you for your hard work. This is amazing.
I’m a bit biased on my favorite queen being Anne B because I was introduced to the Tudor world when I was 12 after reading Doomed Queen Anne by Carolyn Meyer. Since then I’ve been obsessed with historical fictional books related to the Plantagenets and Tudors.
I have always wondered if anyone was brave enough to point out to Henry that in the Bible at Dueteronomy chapter 25 verses 5 and 6 that in the case where a man died without a child, the brother of the man could marry the widow of his brother and thus conceive a child who would be considered the child of the deceased man. That would mean that the child would be the future king or queen of England and Henry would have to step down as king.
Yes, that was one of the many arguments against "the great matter". Henry himself studied the bible extensively, but I think that in the end his need for a son and desire for Anne one out over any religious morality he might have had.
I strongly believe that the fall from his horse and blow to his head did some damage. Before that he was hot tempered but not as psychotic as he became. Catherine was amazing in standing up to him but its also important to remember this was in the beginning. At this point he hadn't killed any wives or his best friends. She couldn't know how much of a monster he would become. Catherine Parr on the other hand knew exactly what he was and managed to survive him. She was also able to contribute to Elizabeth's education and help chose Edwards tutors making sure they were led into the protestant religion. People may point to Anne as the one who shaped England but in reality, if Jane had lived and had been the one raising Elizabeth and Edward no doubt their tutors would have nudged them back into the Catholic religion.
We could say the same for Anne. If Anne had lived... many things could have happened.
But Jane didn't live and neither did her son for very long. It's Anne's daughter Elizabeth I we all remember.
@@juliannaciano1273 Speaking for myself and not everyone else, I remember Mary I and Edward VI extremely well, not just their half-sister Elizabeth I.
@@juliannaciano1273To be honest we remember her because she lived longer and reigned longer than them.
They all had very forward-revolutionary thinking (they did have a very good education, even for females) and if they had lived longer things would have been different. People who study the Tudors have said this.
This is honestly the best one I've came across!
The portraits of these women seem slightly haunting. What a horrible fate they met to have ever crossed paths with a psychopathic king. Thankfully most of the world is devoid of royalty although modern dictators act even worse.
Actually, the monarchy is often considered the best form of the government since it is usually financially secure, politically stable, and it has a vested, longtime interest in maintaining the people's support
I am related to Anne of Cleves on my mothers side. Without her resilience my family wouldn’t be here today, I wouldn’t be here today. I have always found her story so amazing. She was truly so intelligent and strong.
How is Anne's resilience connected to your family being here ? Anne had no children so the part of her family you are related to, is either her sister or her brothers, and their offspring. Anne is the most remarkable to me, but how you stated that above isn't factual .
@@princessoffire1107 I am related to her via her bloodline. Her father to be exact.
@@princessoffire1107 I see what you mean, I’m just proud to be connected to her in any way.
I to am related to Queen Ann from my father's family. Thinking it was on his mother's side.She was a Giles, married an Anderson.
@@patriciashelton6644 my family are the Funderburks/Funderbergs . Originally known as Von Der Berg family. That name stayed up until my grandmother married. It has been carried for centuries but now our namesake part of the kine is ending unfortunately. There’s a book tracing our lineage called Funderburk Castles and Conquests. It’s how I was able to trace us back to Anne and her family. Pretty amazing.
Listen to this was awesome . Fall asleep and waking up off and on to such a great work on this interesting history. Thank you so very much ❤️
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I often wonder how long Jane Seymour would have survived had she not produced the male heir. Henry wished to be interred beside her, but I just wonder if she didn't survive long enough to be tossed aside.
I get so irritated with the use of the Levitical verse Henry used which was/is taken out of context. If you look at the verse in context, you see that it referred to adultery with the wife of a living brother. Looking at Deuteronomy 25:5-10, we find the "levirate marriage." This actually required a man to marry his dead brother's widow in order to provide a heir for the dead brother. Henry VIII liked to cherry-pick his Bible verses to suit his desires and lusts.
I think Henry was more tolerant of Catherine because she was a foreign princess and because she was popular in England. If he had executed her it definitely would have resulted in war and possibly a civil war in England as well. Ann of Cleves gave Henry his annulment willingly and was treated well. The rest of his wives were his subjects.
He was "tolerant" by torturing the woman he was married to for over 20 years? He knew Spain would decimate England if he harmed her. He was nothing more than a bully, a tyrant and coward.
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It's all relative. He was pretty good to her until it was clear she would fail to bear him a son. She was never subjected to actual torture. He didn't have her beheaded. He probably would have liked to and he was happy when she died. Anne Boleyn failed in the same way plus she was a nag and no-one was going to war over her, (the one most responsible for Henry's ill treatment of Catherine.) Jane gave him a son but died in the process. Cleaves was content to go with the flow and lived a life of luxury at the English court. Howard was very young and very careless. Ironically, if her infidelities had resulted in her giving birth to another son for Henry, they probably would have been overlooked. Parr stayed out of trouble and survived, just barely.
Very trivial question here. I have always wondered why Prince Arthur and Catherine of Aragon were not taught Spanish and English as children. I believe they corresponded before their marriage in Latin, but discovered upon her arrival in England that they had been taught different pronunciations, so they struggled to communicate. Each received extensive education; the lack of each other's primary languages has always puzzled me.
I can only surmise that at the time of Catherine's birth and childhood her parents Ferdinand and Isabella did not consider an English Royal match for their daughter. The same with Henry VII. The Tudor dynasty was new, Henry had won the throne on the battlefield. At the time of Arthur's birth and through his childhood there was probably some uncertainty whether the dynasty could even survive. Other Royal Houses were perhaps wary of this very real possibility. It also seems that Henry only started to seriously consider a Royal match for his son when he reached his teens, so he didn't see to it that his son be taught to speak Spanish.
I always assumed that they would have been exposed to their native languages from birth and so it wasn't needed.
That is strange. They were betrothed to each other for over a decade - you'd think they'd have been taught to speak each other's languages.
Katherine Howard was blackmailed into marrying Henry by her uncle who used her for his own advancement. He risked her life on a whim and search for wealth and gain. Henry was irresponsible for asking for her hand in marriage she was too young for him. His reputation as an experienced man could hardly call out a. girl who was inexperienced in this respect., yet she was accused of treason against him. An unfair investigation ensued regarding her honour against that of the KING's reputation. Henry as a responsible adult should have divorced her instead of allowing a death sentence to be placed upon her.
I believe Anne was innocent in every way!!! Anne was fiesty which Henry even loved, Henry was just a mean, sex crazed lunatic!!
He liked it in a mistress. He did not like it in a wife.
He married her and loved her and then killed her under he said she said BS....but whatever lol
This was exactly what I was looking for when I wanted to learn about all of the 6 wives. Not just the famous ones. Thank you!
This was the most informative documentary on the life of Henry VIII and his wives.
Hello and good morning to all !🎹🎹😄😄thank you for reminding us the history of Tudors 🎹🎹😍😍
Amazing compilation. Thank you for taking the time to put it together!
This is a thorough and illuminating video. Thank you. You keep me company while I am painting.
All of his wives should be pitied. None of them had control of their own lives. Imagine being forced by your own family to submit yourself to a man and you have no choice but to do as you are told or your family will suffer in disgrace. None of them really had a choice, not even Anne Boleyn. Henry was a sociopath.
Thanks for adding to my historical knowledge. I did not receive this information during my college history classes and it was not included in the history books I taught from at the high school level.
If Katherine of Aragon had strawberry blonde hair and fair skin, why is she always portrayed with black or dark brown hair, with tan skin?
I suppose due to her Spanish bloodline 😅
What happened to Catherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn, and Catherine Howard was tragic. Anne of Cleves was smart enough to get out when she did. People like to portray Anne Boleyn as a villain because she usurped Catherine of Aragon however as the video pointed out, Jane Seymour was no better. Jane is my least favourite of the six.
For sure. The years that spanned between the first 3 wives were just a mess, minus the years before Henry started leaning away from Catherine.
I like to think Anne of Cleves was the only one smart enough to avoid Henry's smell, his crabby personality, and didn't want him anymore than he wanted her.
I love the narrator's accent! above all he explains it so beautifully
“Poor’ Lady Rochford. Betrayed Anne Boleyn, her Husband George Boleyn and her Mistress Catherine Howard
Oh, boy, yet another beautifully narrated, well researched and eloquently delivered nearly 5 hour long documentary on the Royals of England!! What a joy! Thank you Peoples Profiles! I've already saved it to my History Playlist and am listening now! And will, as with all of your other really long docs, be sleeping to this, as the calm and soothing narration helps me to relax when I otherwise find it near impossible. Thank you so very much!
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My personal favorite of all of the wives is Anne Of Cleves. As she seemingly was the luckiest and, in my opinion, the prettiest, in spite of what is widely claimed about her. In fact, she was beautiful. And I believe Henry thought so too, he just had so many issues and I think the marriage wasn't consummated because of Henrys inability to, err, rise to the occasion. 😅🤣
And, in addition, I feel that she was repulsed by him. So, she found it near impossible to become intimate herself.
I may as well list my particular order, lol.
So, Anne Of Cleves first
Then, it would have to be Katherine of Aragon. Although, I always thought it odd that she would marry Henry after Arthur. And, in spite of popular belief, I kindly think she and Arthur may have consummated the marriage. I know her piety was admirable, though, and most use that as the reason for thinking she would never tell that lie, and I understand that sentiment. However, being a 16 year old widow in a foreign country, and having put all that time and effort in to becoming the Queen of England, I believe it possible that she indeed did lie.
Third is Katherine Howard, as I have always felt so sorry for her. Though, I do find her rather flippant in her role as Queen, she was just a teenager who, I believe, was never taught correctly and never had guidance to behave any better.
Then, it's Anne Boleyn fourth. I'd place her above this, if it were not for her conniving nature, and her way of handling The true Queen, Katherine of Aragon, along with the Princess Mary. She seemed rather cold in her treatment of them, as well as others once she became Queen.
Next, Fifth place, is Katherine Parr, as I believe her heart wss in the right place. And I believe she was what the mean old smelly king needed at the point in which they were married.
And finally, in Sixth place, last, is Jane Seymour. I place her last in spite of her giving Henry his long awaited male heir, and in spite of her being the only one given a Queens funeral and her being buried beside her King, because I think that she truly betrayed her Lady, The Queen, Anne, and went behind her back having an affair with Henry while Anne was pregnant. And I feel she was quite cold to Anne in the last moments of her life and afterward.
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I don't feel you can judge Jane for her behaviour without judging Anne equally for the same things.
@@celinahatton2653 I did judge Anne, see my section on Anne. I just find Jane less, idk, less appealing than Anne, but again, this is just my opinion. I believe that's to be assumed, if I didn't state it. 😉
@@celinahatton2653 Jane's conduct is usually seen as borrowed from Anne Boleyn's playback. For me, this isn't a blame issue though. What was either lady to do when the monstrous Henry started pursuing them? Same for all his English wives.
They were all just trying to survive a capricious tyrant. They all had admirable qualities. I like Anne B slightly less than the others because she was cruel to her step daughter Mary.
A small objection - the events after the death of Edward IV are very convoluted, and there is room for questions and doubts about the accepted version of how and why Richard III came to the throne, and what may have or have not happened to Edward V and his brother Richard. I do wish there had been a broader summary of the events leading to the victory of Henry Tudor.
That was absolutely phenomenal! I plan on watching it again!
Holy moly, an epic. 👌👌👌👍👍 Awesome. Thank you for your fantastic research and WORK.
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Thank you for all the wonderful content.
Anne of Cleves definitely MVP though
Anne of Cleves definitely made out the best of the wives. Catherine Parr outlived Henry as well, but died only a year and a half later giving birth to her cheating husband Thomas Seymour's child. And the child, a daughter, died not long afterward.
What an excellent series.
Thank you so much!
Lovely! Now if I ever have any daughter, we can watch this together. 😊
I think she was a strong woman and ahead of her time. She never waivered from her convictions in a world run by men. Alot of respect for her.
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@@sadg3_ All six of them
Awesome! Thank you! Perfect way to start the weekend!
Could we perhaps get a video on Kaiser Wilhelm II? Would love to see it!
I need your videos for the post apocalyptic world. Your library will cover the history section and the new educated generation will actually enjoy history class. 👍
I have watched this through once but I listen to a new bit every night as I fall asleep too 😅
Poor Mary Boleyn. She has been sooooo maligned
Agreed! She is my ancestor and there is no mention of any scandal in France until Anne 's downfall. Mary may have actually gone home with Mary Tudor when married to Charles Brandon. Then Mary Boleyn served Katherine of Aragon and was wed to William Carey. If there was scandal in France she would not have been wed to such an up and coming courtier a friend to the King. She would have been considered unsuitable to serve the Queen.
Plus her affair with Henry is very shadowy. When and how long it lasted is a mystery. It is possible possible only her daughter Catherine was Henry's. I am Catherine Carey's descendant.
These stories seem to convey the old adage of. "Be careful what you wish for."
It is curious that Richard III should be accused of usurping the throne when he was legally
requested by the Council and legally crowned , after the scandal of Edward's previous weddings came to light, disinheriting the 2 young Princes. Henry VII was a true usurper , and he never forgot it. The Tudors did their best to rewrite history.
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Ann Boleyn was neither saint nor sinner, at least no more than any other human. Fascinating, strong, and intriguing would be more accurate.
If Arthur didn't die, maybe Catherine of Aragon had a better husband probably a better King.!
Maybe not.
Anne did not have an extra finger, that was a lie and proven as such when her bones were recovered. Do you honestly think Henry would have been the least bit interested in her had that been true considering she already did not fit the beauty standard of their times? The mole on her neck was also another lie.
We didn't say she did. Listen!
@@PeopleProfiles Oh no I’m not saying you said it, I’m saying this based off of those rumors that were circulated then about her by her enemies. I’m sorry if it implied I was saying it as if you were saying this about her. Sorry 🙂
If she had a sixth finger, it would have been cut out when she was a baby, so it wouldnt be shown... And there is not certainty that any bone recovered was actually hers. A sixth finger is also "atrofiated" and barely leaves marks on the other bones of the hand. Also, Anne and her family would have conceiled such a secret from the outside world as much as they could as it was a disgrace. But is highly likely that she might have been born with one. The mole of her neck is real, even more so that the finger as many accounts suggest it and effectively, she could not properly hide such a thing.
No worries, we're sorry too. We've had a few of those comments with people being nasty.
@@Alejojojo6 polydaktily (extra digits) are one of the most common mutations. Moles on the neck are not uncommon either. I don't think these "flaws" would of put Henry off Anne.
Haven't finished watching this yet but seems like a case of 'he said, she said'. And Henry, being the King; well... I guess ultimately it was his 'he said' that prevailed. People of the time knew which side of the bread was buttered and there wasn't much that could have been done about it (without facing serious consequences for themselves and their families). Katherine didn't stand much of chance one the tide started turning. Not even with the Church once Henry broke away. No one was willing to go to war for her.
Equal parts edifying and entertaining, this compilation of biographies detailing the lives of King Henry the VIII's six wives is a worthwhile, information-rich documentary that although remarkably uneven visually still transcends its title via high-detail examination of featured historical figures within a broader historical context to compelling effect. Thanks, The People Profiles.
Yes... Catherine of Aragon was right to resist the divorce because Henry didn't want a divorce until he met someone else. She married him in good faith and didn't need all the drama from beginning to end. Henry was a jerk.
Excellent documentry. You gained a new subscriber, and of course a like.
No one was willing to go to war for her & obviously she couldn't do it alone. The cards were stacked against her since almost the beginning but really not much she could do although she fought valiantly for herself and for Mary.
There is no doubt that Henry VIII fell deeply in love with Anne Boleyn, and no doubt her high intellect was part of the attraction. However, if Catherine had provided the male heir Henry wanted it is extremely doubtful that Henry would have broken with Rome to marry Anne. Anne simply saw an opportunity and took it. By all accounts she was an extremely arrogant and spiteful woman. She wasn't satisfied with replacing Catherine - she gloated in the fact that Mary had been made illegitimate by Henry and went out of her way to humiliate her. Mary was forced to wait on the infant Elizabeth. Anne also told people in Elizabeth's house hold that if Mary were to say she was a princess, that they should 'slap her face for the accursed bastard that she is'. Anne had no sympathy for Catherine either, and said she would 'rather see her hang' than acknowledge her as queen. Anne created the machinery in order for Henry to rid himself of Catherine - how ironic it was that this machinery was to turn on her when she found herself in exactly the same position as Catherine had been. Anne was not a pleasant character and women did not warm to her, so it would not be surprising if Jane Seymour disliked her and had no sympathy for her during her downfall and no guilt about stepping into her shoes. Anne, after all, had had no sympathy for Catherine or her daughter Mary. While imprisoned in the tower Anne began to reflect on how she had treated Catherine and Mary and expressed regret for this. No doubt she was thinking of her own daughter Elizabeth who was now in the same situation Mary had been. Anne of Cleves seems like a kind woman. The issue of her looks is somewhat perplexing - her mother, sister and brother looked attractive, so it is difficult to understand how Anne was so repulsive to Henry. Unless it was simply a lack of sexual chemistry. Anne was sensible in accepting the divorce and not making an issue about religion, which was quite unusual for the time.
How do know all this, where you there in another life? 😉
@@adongood1011 No, I have just read up on it. These are historical facts.
She wasn’t liked at all, I find it strange that no one comprehends that. That’s why people had no issues with trying to get rid of her. I don’t believe she was guilty of her charges but I believe in the rumors of her “previous marriage”. Anne was not a kind woman as people are trying to portray her as nowadays.
@@bre1408 people did like her, but her behavior was considered good for a mistress and court goer, not a queen. She started to wear a little thin but the end of everything too based off of a lot of accounts but we have to also take stuff with a grain of salt since there isn’t much objective truth in surviving documents.
It’s like having to pick out what seems most consistently mentioned and b viable for the time given critical thought to the set up and contextual history.
She seemed to become a bit more paranoid (rightfully so) by the end of her life but she overall was pretty level for the most part and seemed to be painted as a vile evil temptress to justify the false crimes she was arrested for
@@susangavaghan I mentioned it in my other comment here but “historical facts” for stuff like character of court and royalty at this time is a bit dodgy, especially when it’s a disgraced queen in a patriarchal society
There’s a lot more wishy washy shit and room for error
Unfortunate because I would love to have better objective accounts of all sorts of different people from this kind of time but alas, for Henry’s wives it’s a bit more eh unless they had a large legacy or background
I admire Catherine of Aragon’s courage; Anne is a perfect example of being careful what one wishes for; Jane Seymour was lucky to have given Henry the son he ruined so many to gain, and then died before she could displease him. I think Anne of Cleves was one smart cookie. I pity Katherine Howard greatly, for she was so young and had not been raised with any principals; she was entirely out of her league. Katherine Parr (three Katherine’s!) was fortunate too, in surviving Henry, but was not fortunate enough to survive Thomas Seymour. All in all, I am not an admirer of Henry VIII.
I think Anne of Cleves was cool, pretty and better as a sister to Henry. HENRY DIDNT DESERVE
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ANNE was very hands on getting herself on the throne of England. Yes her father and Uncle Howard played their parts in helping her but it was Anne's will and ability to use her intelligence and feminine guile as well as taking a page out of Elizabeth Woodville "I wont be your mistress" (no boda bing without a ring)! playbook and added her own spin to it.
Jane's brothers and father were the ones that pulled the strings and played off Jane's natural soft quite nature to appeal to the King which after Annes fiery temper, Henry ate up Jane submissive personality with a spoon.
Jane also on her own checked out Elizabeth Woodville's playbook with Annes notes in the margins.
Cleves was smart and pragmatic. She probably had plenty of marriage proposals based on her wealth.
The burden was probably Henry himself.
I doubt if anyone would have offered her marriage.