That blade is a serious accident waiting to happen - wrong motion and the blade closes on your fingers and does serious damage - that's why in the US locking blades are known as SAFETY knives BTW, my spring loaded knife is completely legal even in the Demokratik Republik of Ill-noise because (until the Democrats finish turning us into the banana republic of their wet dreams) citizens in the US still have protected rights that aren't at the capricious whim of ignorant insulated politicians
@@ArchangelChi The only use you would even need it for though is as a cutting tool. To cut open a box or anything similar you don't even need to grip the whole handle of the knife and wrap your fingers around it anyway. Higonokami knives do address the problem you mention though, they fit within the legal boundaries of a non locking blade under 3" but they have a chikiri you can place your thumb on while you grip the handle.
@Vlad Tepes What I'm suggesting is that there's an obvious conflict of interests between a video aimed at explaining UK law, and a drug that is against the law in the UK. I'm just suggesting that suggesting products with drug imagery might be counter to what this channel is about; especially when used as an affiliate link and therefore giving the channel creator money when people buy it? He seems to agree with me too, check his reply above. Not sure what you're taking issue with.
I remember the days when gangs of youths walked the streets with knives but no one was ever hurt, you were even safe around them. I believe the gang in question called themselves The Scouts.
While camping in Buxton, our scout leader took us into the knife shop to show us how to choose a sheath knife. The best ones had the blade through the handle. I bought a large one. We had them on our belt for cutting wood and making a bivouac. We didn't stab each other! Lol
@@madmackets I had a full tang Bowie knife as a scout, the blade was 10 inch long and no-one ever batted an eye. We used to go about with air rifles shooting rabbits and not even the police cared as we were shooting rabbits and nothing else. Possibly things were different in the Scottish Highlands back then, in the 80's I had a 7.62 S.L.R and several pistols. Now you can't even own an air rifle without a license, they are removing all our rights day by day. Do they think that criminals a care about a license for the illegal firearms they own and you as a law abiding citizen have no way of legally defending yourself. It's probably illegal to carry a fucking twig these days. Excuse my language but it's very frustrating to see what's happened to the legal gun owners in this country.
@@johnkidd797 I had lots of air rifles, we had a good wood nearby. We hunted rabbits, I had a rabbits foot hanging off my gun. The police once took my Diana repeater off me in the street though. Said it looked too real. The only legal weapon now is a spray can. “Red Alert” contains an oil based red dye, foul smell (similar to garlic) won't come off your skin or clothes. Not going to stop you getting hurt but it will inconvenience the criminal. Lol
I’m limited to a 3 inch blade that closes on my fingers more often than I’d like because the government wants to stop knife crime, even though 99% of those crimes are committed using giant dull kitchen knives.
The locking knife was made to lock to reduce crippling injuries to hands and fingers, in the USA and other places they are called "safety knives". It is perverse to penalise the many who use such knives for everyday tasks and who have zero intention of hurting anyone, including themselves, while a minority use every other kind of cheap, easily acquired, knife and screwdrivers to harm others. There are probably countless incidences of where ordinary folk with a safety knife have saved someone's life by using them for a legal purpose. In my own case before these tougher laws came into being I used my lock-knife, a Victorinox (Swiss Army type) serrated blade to cut someone free from car seat belts that had jammed and the car had started to smoke before it caught fire. One of my colleagues, an Ambulance driver, had his vehicle catch fire while operating solo, and would have had to use his multi tool with locking blade to cut the seat belts of wheelchair bound passengers. The vehicle he was driving was supposed to hold 6 walking patients and two wheelchair bound patients in the centre aisles, thus trapping the walking patients. He told me the seat strapping systems had many straps and to open them all would have led to the death of patients and himself. The only way to get them out quickly would be to cut the straps.The ambulance caught fire behind the drivers dashboard so he got out quickly but the passengers would then have needed rescue, he regularly says it is a miracle I was not fully loaded, the outcome would have been disastrous. yet even Ambulance crews are not allowed a locking tool it would seem. Medics and First Aiders all over the nation will have had instances where such a tool was vital and yet deemed illegal.
But from what Blackbeltbarrister has said, surely a Paramedic at his place of work carrying out his duties with the essential use of such a blade would be an exception to the rules if they show good reason for having it...?
@@trashbank6148 not exactly true, theres an erosion of rights. The regulations around knives are increasingly ridiculous. My mate bought me a knife for Christmas which he believed was legal but recent changes means it's not as the blade is 4" instead of less than 3.
@@septicsceptic419 assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/186911/Knives_and_offensive_weapons_information_GDS_FAQ.pdf the law has existed since 1988, so yeah, it's been a law for over 32 years, i.e "decades'. The same people complaining about these laws will be the first to criticise the government for not doing enough to combat knife crime
Carried a knife everyday of my life since my Dad gave me my first Swiss Army Knife when I was 11. UK laws are an absolute disgrace, and I could care less if it's illegal, I refuse to be a victim. A knife is a tool, like anything else. If I could get away with it I'd carry a Sig P226. When seconds count, the Police are minutes away.
You say a knife is a tool, then say that you want to use it for self defence which makes it a weapon. Also, I'm quite happy not to carry a gun as long as the crazy guy down the road (probably you) doesn't get one either. How exactly is a knife good for self defence anyway? It won't stop you getting stabbed by the other guy. Pretty much any job you could possibly want to do in public can be done just as well with a folding knife as a fixed one.
@@harrylangton3206 youve obviously not ever had a dog attack a small child in your company, a knife is a very effective weapon to release the jaws of a dog from a kid its about to shake to death.
@@knoxieman Why would you think that? Actually me and my sister were attacked as children by dogs. My sister still has the scars. I don't think that "to stop random dog attacks" is a good enough reason to legalise carrying a knife as a weapon, because that is a better solved by people looking after their dogs and children.
@@harrylangton3206 Carried a weapon for years in the Military. Your opinions mean nothing to me I'm afraid. That said, if you were being attacked, I'm the sort of person to step in to stop it. All made a lot easier if I possess a force multiplier, which I do. Two actually. One fixed, one folding. Have a good one.
@@harrylangton3206 I think we've lived very different lives. The world we live in is a nasty place, people would sooner pull out a phone and start recording than actually step in to help someone being attacked. Which would you prefer, someone recording you being assaulted or someone able to make the difference and stop the assault? As stated in my original comment, when seconds count the police are minutes away.
Now I moved from England 15 years ago but part of the utter stupidity of these laws is that they are made by people who do not carry knives. They can’t see why someone would want to or need too, and if you were a lawyer that’s probably true, however there are a vast array of reasons outside the legal profession where there are legitimate reasons to carry a locking knife. I am asked for the lend of my knife frequently by people who don’t carry a knife. There are huge over reactions when teenagers commit knife crime, not to the knife crime and the reasons for it but to the type of knife used, it’s so much easier for a politician to ban cheap “zombie knives” then to look at the poverty underlying the crime. It makes them feel they did something that they can boast about to their constituents. The largest majority of knife crime is committed by kitchen knives stolen from mom. It’s just not sensational. And lastly if I brandish my knife, threaten you with my knife or indeed attack you with my knife that is an illegal offense, we all agree on that, it shouldn’t need to be illegal to own it, it’s what you do with it that makes it illegal. I spent 15 yrs in the RM and I can tell you sitting in my workshop right now if In an emergency I had to defend myself my knife would be about the tenth thing I would pick up. 1-9 are all perfectly legal to carry.
If you had paid attention, you would have heard that owning and carrying a knife is not a subject to strict liability. Apparently you advocate making it easier for criminals and those likely to misuse them, to get hold of knives. Ones more suitable and more capable of causing severe injury or death. You would no doubt encourage those people to carry them, but to just be more responsible with them? You'd just trust them not to do wrong? Perhaps we should follow the example set by the USA? After all, they've been so successful combatting gun crime. 🙄
It's crazy to me that people would let their government get so out of hand. I was reading over some of the laws in the UK and it appears to me that even if you carried a metal pen and claimed it was for the purpose of self-defense you can be arrested for having an illegal weapon. It looks like these laws are doing nothing for the crime rate either. You even let them take away your freedom of speech.
AND, effectively, the right to protest. Much of the problem boils down to not having a written constitution. Our government and police find tackling crime difficult, so they prefer to ban the object rather than tackle the root problem. Criminals, of course, ignore laws as that's the whole appeal of being a criminal.
Scoff all you like at the strict UK laws stopping innocent law abiding citizens from carrying multi-tools. It has never been so safe to stroll the inner cities at night, knowing that criminals are not carrying knives.
@@ponchymonchy but the criminals are carrying knifes. That's why they're criminals, ironically when a criminal demands something from a law abiding citizen the criminal knows that he/she can't defend themself.
@@BlackBeltBarrister I would disagree about the end line in reference to camping & hiking. There are good reasons to carry for example eating at camp site, bushcraft, first aid etc. The rest seems spot on.
@@gavinmiller690 I agree, knives are a basic tool which humans have used in some form for a very very long time, bushcraft and wild camping REQUIRE a knife there is no two ways about it, usually a fixed blade, to deny humans of these basic survival tools is sick and a perversion of justice, in fact I would argue that current knife laws do nothing to protect anyone, since criminals intent on harming others will not be discouraged from carrying a weapon because it is illegal to do so. They only serve to disarm the law abiding populace by tyrannical governments for the purpose of control.
I once read a story written by a retired High Court judge in which he explained that as a small boy his father bought him a pocket knife and taught him to whittle and sharpen pencils with it. It was in his pocket at school at University and at work where he happily sharpened pencils for the typists etc. He then got called up for national service and his pocket knife went with him on active service. After the war he worked in law, became a qc and eventually retired. He said that during all this time he was never once inclined to stick it in anyone! We have too much law.
My first knife was given to me by my grandmother when I was still in primary school. That was a sheath knife and she saw it as an entirely appropriate gift for a young boy. For most of my life I carried a pocket knife and in all of that time, like you, I was never inclined it stick it in anyone.
Unfortunately the high court judges with any sense are gone, and have been replaced by these contemptible nannies, just like the rest of UK government. It was good to Brexit from the euro weenie nannies, but if you're just going to create the same thing at home, what's the point?
So if I go on a camping trip with a blade longer than 3" even if the blade is not made of metal I can be prosecuted and so I'm told face a four year prison sentence, even my plastic cutlery will have to be cut down to 3" because my reason for the preparation of food is not a good reason in the eyes of the law, astonishing.
Yes, that tiny blade in your Swiss Army Card (credit card sized plastic device with scissors, pen, magnifying glass etc) falls within the definition of an illegal bladed article. These draconian measures have coincided with a huge increase in knife crime. I was a custody Sgt for many years and it gave me much pleasure to release tradesmen, hunters, fishermen etc etc who had been arrested by over zealous officers. Sometimes the law is a complete ass. Don’t get me started on drink drive legislation! 😎
@@ganrimmonim the tiny knife blade in the card falls within the definition of a bladed article. The 3 inch blade limit only applies to folding pocket knives... every other type of knife with a fixed blade (of any length) falls foul of this hastily enacted, poorly drafted, knee-jerk preventative legislation. Knives do not injure or kill people. People do that.
@@Grim_Beard Thanks for that. Every day is a school day eh? You can see the logic though of the practical real-world extension of the definition. Always thought the legislation was pants so I used to NFA lots of bladed article prisoners if the circumstances did not chime with what I assumed the sprit of the legislation to have been. Released one guy who was arrested (admittedly drunk) with a pair of gardening secateurs. The case officer wanted the book thrown at him. When I asked to see them, they were so old and rusted they wouldn’t even open. Happy Days...
@@Grim_Beard I always carry my very useful (and expensive) Leatherman Wave Ti multi-tool. That has a locking blade so mine may be the case that goes all the way to the Supreme Court!! 😂
Back in my day, we were taught as kids how to use knives as tools for all types of activities, army cadets, cubs, beavers, fishing and even gardening activities. These days knives are promoted as weapons which is reinforced by legislation that fail to get to the root causes of knife crime...
I'm old and rather decrepit now but about 50-60 years ago a mate and myself used to go hiking/camping all over the Yorkshire Dales and North York Moors etc. We both always had heavy duty, good quality sheath knives on our belts and used them for numerous things, even digging latrine holes. We would even go in to the pub at lunchtime/evening with them still strapped to our belts and nobody batted an eyelid as the people were used to hikers being 'dressed' like this. If there were other hikers present it was usual to get in to a discussion about where each other had been, where they were going and so on. Quite often this would lead to a discussion on what brand of equipment was best including sheath knives. Basically knives had either wooden, leather or bone handles. which one was the best being a topic of discussion. The one thing that all agreed on was that the blade needed to be the full length of the handle and 'riveted' to it. Cheap knives had a prong that went in to a hole in the handle and was glued in place. This often resulted in knives being openly displayed and handed round with the locals, many of whom were famers/farmworkers, joining in as they had their own ideas as to what constituted a good knife. The thing is that these knives were not looked on as weapons but as tools.
@@ChiefWizard666 I was born in the 80's and brought up in the Scottish Highland Countryside, most of us were in Cubs or Scouts and most of us had knives and would enjoy showing and comparing our knives,no one got hurt, but back then parents and mentors would teach you how to hold and handle a knife and most importantly never use it messing around or pretending or for play, also how dangerous it is, you know basic common sense, common sense sadly is a thing not many have nowdays. I don't know what happened to society but it isn't good.
@@BlackBeltBarrister I have spent twenty years shaved. I was often called, when in white shirt or t shirt, "Mr Clean", like the advertising avatar. I also looked like one of those asian mushrooms, the long thin floppy ones, with a little ball at the top. Facial hair has ended that anaemia; 'designer stubble' at first, now full topiary.
@@BlackBeltBarrister Is it illegal to keep one in your home in storage as a keepsake or sentimental value if you don't bring it out with you in public?
Thanks for your clarification . I wear a letherman tool for work , I also wore ,(up to this point ) my leatherman on my belt in public ! As I am sure you know the leatherman locks . Now i realise I have been wondering around with an illegal knife on my belt. To me a knife is a tool and never a weapon..
Similar to yourself I carried a leatherman wave multi tool with a locking blades at all times until I learned of the potential problems that may have caused for me. I modified it so now the knife blades do not lock on opening (it's now a friction folder) and I still carry it and use it often, now legally.
that'll really make them think twice before stabbing someone when they realise that carrying a knife is illegal. If only the government made this more well known they could end knife crime overnight.
Ah, missing the point completely. A worryingly common occurrence. Take a look at the gun crime and gun related deaths and injuries statistics (including accidental shootings involving minors) that are compiled and published every year. The annual figures are horrendous, they make the 9/11 bombings look tame. The greater the availability of weapons, the greater the number of people able to get hold of them with the intention of using them for illegal purposes. The USA is a perfect example of this.
Ironic part is the wannabe gangsta doesn't buy the knifes/multitools most here would use and carry as they prefer machettes or readily available kitchen knifes and of cause those lovely CHEAP zombie/Kambit knifes...
the blanket ban on knives "and any other weapon" has just made ordinary people afraid to even own such things never mind carry them, and did it stop the shit heads killing each other?,,did it fuck.
Hmm. So my undetectable ceramic, switchblade style, battlefield-ready locking karambit, carrying the inscription "Die, Scum, Die" is pretty borderline then?
@@Tyler-zp5du If you have a foolproof and quick way to change society, please tell us. Last time I looked, it wasn't the Government's place to forcefully indoctrinate children and adults. I believe the USSR, GDR, China and North Korea have all tried it... you can judge for yourself how successful those regimes are/were.
As a teenager I carried a bowie type sheath knife on my belt as did many of my friends. It was used for fishing, camping and carving. It was never used as a weapon. Along comes Tony Blair and suddenly we cannot carry a lock knife. He also banned pistols. It is ironic that apart from some police officers the only people carrying pistols (and knives) in the UK are violent criminals. Most British people who would carry a knife would use it responsibly but because of our pathetic Governments and justice system, the many have to suffer because of the few.
Wow ! - and I thought, here in Germany we have strict knife laws ! These law-making people completely ignore, that most murders are committed with kitchen knives. Knowing, they can't ban kitchen knives, and in need "to do something" against knife-related crimes, they ban all sorts of useful tools. Remember - a knife is nothing but a piece of metal, until the owner commits a crime with it. Send them to jail and throw the keys away !
The ironry is you can fashion weapons from practically anything that will kill. I could go to a hardware shop and purchase a length of mild steel flat bar, some electrical tape and a file and make a straight bladed sword in about an hour that would hack limbs off. Issue is the UK governments are very trigger happy reactionary. We get a crime like a bloke cutting someone up with a samurai sword and now they are banned.
@@mannihh5274 I was highlighting the futility of banning such weapons. The thing is, criminals dont follow the law. Banning samurai swords isnt going to make gang members say "right lads, no killing our rivals with katanas anymore. Its illegal to carry them"
Remember the good old days when the king required every man to have a sword unless he lived in the woods and he was told to get a crossbow or something.
Well just tell your “Scottish friend” that it’s perfectly legal to have a sgian dubh knife on you (which is typically a fixed blade knife of 3.5 inches) so long as you are in appropriate traditional dress.....eg. so long as you’re wearing a kilt! 😀
its almost exactly word for word what is written on the .gov website that comes up when you search "uk knife law" it is even in the same order presented here, as if that is his source and just like there, no emphasis is made on the knives that *are* legal, all of which means when you take out your under 3 inch non-locking, non-flicking non-disguised knife to dig out a splinter, or pop the top off a beer bottle, the entire room stares at you like you just cocked a gubn and shouted "everybody on the floor!"
@@isty4491 well it's worded in there but in legalise that most can't understand it also doesn't give specifics to allow officers to interpret based off their own opinion wether or not it is legal which is pathetic. 1 friction folder I have technically has a 7.5 inch blade but has just over 3 inches of cutting edge. So I guarantee that would be taken and I'd have a charge, the same would happen if you reversed that also. It should be more clear as to how to measure the blade for legality but no, they like grey areas that way they can fuck more people out of money in fines and have no regard to how that will affect their life, job, criminal record etc
Great video and worthy information... Just a shame the POLICE don't actually know and fully understand this... TWICE when checking my outdoor kit before heading into the Hills/mountains. Tjhe police have stopped and told me I was carrying an illegal knife (leatherman wave) and each time I could PROVE that I had a just reason for it(wildcamping and mountaineering) and then even showed them the relavent govermnet website to the be told it was incorrect. I have even been threatened with arrest when carrying my Swiss army knife huntsman,(was helping a barista fix a coffee machine so I could have my coffee) which is fully legal where ever I go as it meets the criteria (less than 3in, none locking)Thank fully on each occassion another colleague arrived and set the other officers straight. I have NEVER carried or carry an illegal knife and stay with in the law I have too due to my proffesssion. The police really don't have a clue alot of the time and jump on those of use who carry legally knifes with in the realms of the law.
Its definitely something that needs an awareness campaign to clue up the people more than the officers, the officers half the time know they're in the wrong and just want a power trip, if you make it common knowledge what can be carried they'll have a job to get away with it
You never broke this pathetic counter intuitive law but you still have bother. Those policeman should of been hung drawn and quartered right there in front of you for not doing their job correctly. I know I exaggerate but cmon that’s taking the piss. The police hassle you when you haven’t committed a crime..... meanwhile there would of undoubtedly been real crime happening simultaneously.... when I say real crime I mean crime which has a victim. Victimless crimes are just freedom scams and pathetic attempts to make people self police themselves
Easy prey they jump on us GOOD FOLK to get their targets up , gotta reach those targets . Add a healthy mix of "prevent" mind control programming and diversity programming and they see eveyone as terrorists , everyone now is suddenly guilty until proven innocent and more seem to not have any clue about common law . I wonder why they hired so many borderline psychopaths the past few years ..... Wasnt to help bring in the "new (ab)normal" was it ??
I was charged with possession of a knife on Monday and it was a 2 inch blade, non locking from work that I forgot was in my pocket and I put it in my driver door. Pulled over for a “random drug test” and boom, a night in the cells. Fingers crossed nothing comes of it as it is a legal carry (Lansing sharpeners world legal knife)
@@okcx3682 provided you did everything calmly and politely things should be fine, good luck getting the knife back though, especially without a receipt
In Crown Court case (Harris vs DPP, 1992) where an over enthusiastic lawyer managed to get the judge to rule that a foldable blade must be "readily and immediately foldable at all times". A locking knife is not “readily and immediately foldable” and hence is the same as a fixed blade for the purposes of the Criminal Justice Act (1988). Even more unfortunately this was ruling was upheld in a subsequent Court of Appeal judgment in 1998 (Regina vs Desmond Garcia Deegan, 1998) without leave for appeal. So as ever, forget safety or parliament's wishes -- the law is an ass, and a couple of judges simply make it up as they go along. Far too much power in unelected hands.
I don't know why YT sent me your direction but I'm glad it did. I enjoyed your presentation and have subscribed, I look forward to listening to your expertise on many other subjects.
When I was a youngster in a UK junior school almost all boys carried a knife and the teacher would ask to borrow one to sharpen pencils etc. Camping I would carry a long bladed sheath knife, especially when with the scouts. I do not like non-locking pocket knives as it is too easy to fold and damage your fingers in certain operations. As usual the law appears to be an ass on this subject when the real problem is a social one and nothing to do with what is really just a tool. A living example of this is when a 17 year old carpentry apprentice came into the tool store and wanted to buy a set of chisels. I couldn't sell them to him. He was old enough to drive a car or get married but not old enough to buy the tools of his trade. Madness!!!!
The long bladed sheath knife would likely fall under the 'reasonable excuse' defence, whereby a reasonable person would have the knife in it's sheath, packed in your bag until you were at the camp site. Same as when police may be caused to stop and search a builder on their way to work in the early hours carrying such things as a Stanley knife, chisels, hammer etc. Legislation is written by lawyers, hard to read so they make money, but it's well written with the caveats. Even to the point of someone in possession of a hammer in their coat, without a reasonable excuse, is offensive weapon in a public place (made or adapted to be used as weapon of offence). I.e. a baseball bat with nails in it, blatant offensive weapon, or a hammer being used legitimately before being used to threaten and harm someone, same offence. You're right about the age madness, you can be 16 and on the front gate of a military establishment with a loaded rifle, but can't drink or drive and only in Scotland can you vote!
I remember being 16 and trying to buy chisels so I could carve details on some chess pieces and getting ID'd! Absolutely mental. What crime can you do with a chisel that you can't do with a sharp piece of plastic or a screwdriver?
I’ve carried a pocket knife for60 years,all through high school.and in my adult life a folding knife as well .and carry a hand gun as needed. Of course I’m a free country U S A . It’s good to be reminded of our freedoms here,thank you for that !
UK knife laws are disgusting. The law actually says that the blade has to be "capable of folding", but a judge decided that it meant "capable of folding during use", and immediately made all locking knives illegal for general carry. I carried a locking knife for years without realizing it was illegal. I had read the law, and thought I was following it, but I did not know about this precedent that had been set. As for "good reason", it seems to me that you are guilty until proven innocent. What counts as a "good reason" is more or less arbitrary and open to interpretation. You can never quite be sure you are following the law, even if you are genuinely trying to. I emigrated in 2009, and now live somewhere with absolutely no knife laws whatsoever. You can buy literally any knife you like, and carry it around with you perfectly legally. Strangely enough, despite the fact that anyone can carry a switchblade, butterfly knife, or dagger, we have practically zero violent crime. It's almost like knives aren't the actual problem...
Knives developed locks to make them safer to use, protecting your fingers from the blade unexpectedly closing while using it. England has now made it illegal to carry a safer tool, to satisfy their need for 'safety' from the individual. I once actually looked up if Churchill died childless and Chamberlain had 20 kids; it would explain an awful lot about today's Great Britain.
@@barnabywild2215 I've used a fix 6" blade when fishing for mackerel on piers and beaches in the past. They need cleaning immediately in summer. People who came to look didn't bat an eyelid. I don't sea fish now, but if I did I imagine I'd be better off using discretion now!
@@deanwaller8283it happens to everybody from the kid who just got his first knife to the old man who's carried one for 60 years, dont be so judgemental
As a knife collector and a bushcraft practitioner I've always found the law regarding locking blades silly, the whole reason for the blade to lock is as a safety feature to stop it closing on the user's hand, something a few of my local police officers agree with as when measuring folders they ignore the fact that it locks something I've seen them do this during a random stop and search (it was fun seeing the look on their faces when I answered the "do you have anything on you that can harm either myself, my colleague or yourself" with a nice long list including hatchets, machetes, knives and a bow (I was on my way home from teaching a survival class lol) best part was their response officer 1 "I say we didn't find anything" officer 2 "yeah" they even gave me a lift home. Another time the officer radioed his sergeant to check, the sergeant knows me and basically told them it was fine they didn't have to worry lol)
The only difference between someone getting stabbed/slashed with a lock knife or a non lock knife is that the lock knife was locked and the non lock knife was not locked.. 😂
All you need to do is hold the knife upside down. Stabbing motions are normally an upwards motion so if the non locking knife is upside down then it won't close on your fingers. The laws around knives in the UK are as stupid as the laws around suppressors in the US, they make no sense and are created by people that know nothing about the items they're creating the laws about, people that are scared of their own shadow.
@@Grim_Beard we need a revolution, the UK is out of hand the police are simply out to grab money from any wrongful charge they can and because they know most of us either can't afford to/don't have the knowledge to apply for a private prosecution against them, and even if we did, they would probably win regardless of right and wrong. Until thousands of us line the streets in protest about this it will continue to get worse and worse.
60 years ago when I was a boy scout we all had sheath knives as part of our uniform. They were used for cutting firewood, cutting food and lots of other things. I wonder what they do now.
They still do that, they just don't wear them....they will be carried by a scout master or troop leader (in a box or bag) and handed out for the task and handed back in at completion.
Great concise explanation. I’m a sharpener and I’m always looking for something to show or send to customers who ask me to sharpen their knives. In my case a reasonable reason is bringing it to me as a sharpener, but many people carry locking knives and multi tools thinking they are legal.
Here in Vermont USA, I bought a bushcraft style knife with a 4” blade back in 1985. I’ve open carried it everywhere I go ever since then, including banks and post offices and never had a problem.
Having read the comments I think a lot of people are focusing on the physical specifications of knives as to what is or is not Legal. However a big part of the legal process is determination/proof of intent. It's possible to kill someone with a butter knife, and so if found with one on your person in a public place you will need to convince the police that the only thing you have the intention of murdering is a huge stack of toast. Almost any item can be considered illegal if it can be shown to be carried with unlawful intent. For example lock picks are illegal unless you are a locksmith, because of the implied intent of possessing them is overwhelmingly illegal. "But they are my emotional support picks" will not cut it. Great post by the way.
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40 years ago i was a butcher at Sainsburys. I had supplied my own knives & on my long weekends i used to fashion a cardboard sheath for both my boning knife & steak knife & take them home with me on the train, never had any problem. And the reason i took them home was i didn't want MY knives being used to hack frozen meat & abused by a couple of the assholes we had working there. I was very particular about my knives & the block i worked at. The law's an ass!!
I think it depends on which officers you get. My friend was charged and had his knife confiscated. He’s a tree surgeon on his way home from a job. He was also carrying his crossbow and chainsaw in his car.
These laws have done absolutely nothing but harm and endanger the law-abiding regular person, criminals don't care for laws and never have done and never will by their very nature of being a criminal; someone who is breaking the law. Murder and violent assault is already illegal, blaming the tool / weapon for an attack is like blaming your pen for when you fail an exam.
title of that section is "139 Offence of having article with blade or point in public place.". Sharp sticks have a point so are actually illegal in a public space. Use in fishing or the cooking of fish in a public place is apparently not considered lawful reason, certainly under Scottish law anyway, I dont see E&W legal interpretation differing much. I've just been reading comments on another video on the same subject, where an individual was arrested and received a £750 fine in court for carrying a 1.5 inch non-locking folding knife for the purposes of gutting fish at the riverside. He was fishing when the arrest took place.
Oh and just looked again at the act: Subject to subsection (3) below, this section applies to any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except a folding pocketknife. (3)This section applies to a folding pocketknife if the cutting edge of its blade exceeds 3 inches. Pencils are sharply pointed and are not folding knives with a blade length less than 3 centimetres, so a pencil is illegal in a public place and for that matter so is a pen. By the legal definition, only a wide-tipped marker pen is legal carry
@@insertwittynamehere8947 wow and here I am a pike Fisher man who uses a kitchen knife to cut dead bait down to size.... Iv had this kitchen knife in my fishing box every since I was a kid and its still in there.
I live in Tennessee, USA. In 2014, a law was passed here that made ALL blades and "bladed objects" legal to own and carry. It doesn't matter what it is... a "switchblade" with a 6 inch blade, a sword, or anything in between; it's all okay, under our law. Many people were upset when this law was proposed, wringing their hands and worrying about all the stabbings and slashings they were sure would ensue. Now, here we are in 2021, and none of those horrors ever happened. Crimes with knives did not increase. I suspect the reason for this is all the people wandering around this state who carry guns. P.S. July of this year, another law goes into effect. It allows people to carry a handgun on their person, either openly or concealed, without any permit or license. Anybody care to make a prediction on how they think that will go? Do you think we'll start having shoot-outs on every corner, or robberies and other crimes using firearms suddenly skyrocket? Or do you understand that "An armed society is a polite society"?
Fascinating - there is a great debate on this subject. I am not convinced that strict laws necessarily make for a safer society - I think the attitudes and tolerances make a greater difference.
@@BlackBeltBarrister - It's been my experience that a person's attitude becomes a lot more... civil... if they know that doing otherwise may result in far more violent action being taken toward them than they can tolerate or muster themselves. There's a very non-politically-correct saying here, where I live: "Never throw shit at an armed man, nor stand too close to anyone doing so." Intelligent people understand exactly what that means. It's only those that think someone else will protect them that don't, or believe that they can do as they please without consequences or harm. P.S. Take a look at the laws and crime rates here in the U.S. sometime. You'll probably notice that those places with fewer laws concerning owning, carrying, and using firearms in self-defence have lower violent crime rates than places with much more strict laws. You think that's a coincidence? Or is it cause and effect?
Conversely UK firearm laws became ever stricter and yet shooting carried out by criminals increased. It's what they do. You'd think politicians would appreciate that as lawmakers - because ours are some of the most corrupt and disonest in Europe.
@@barnabywild2215 - that's because criminals don't follow the law. They do as they please. The law-abiding, on the other hand, do what the law requires. Which includes not shooting or stabbing people. Also, by itself, the law does nothing to prevent crime. It only defines what is a crime, and how it is to be punished when that act is committed. It doesn't prevent a damn thing. PS I know how to make both knives and guns. I have the required skills and knowledge. How are you gonna ban that?
Great information! I actually thought that 3" locking knives were legal. I've always had one for work and take one wild camping. I'm afraid I'd never use a "folding" knife - they're just too dangerous. I'd rather pay a fine or sit in a cell for a few months, than risk losing my fingers.
As they've stated before, work and wild camping is usually a 'reasonable excuse' for a locking knife. I.e. you'll often have a stanley knife in your tool box. I also would never bother using a folding knife camping, great way to injure yourself.
To show how stupid UK knife laws are they say you can carry a knife for religious reasons but not for self defence? from an attack which these days can sometimes come from people with strongly religious reasons, if your answer to even carrying a small swiss army knife is that it is for self defence you are committing a crime, you can argue sure that its better not to fight people with a knife which there is a good argument for however what about a dog attack? we have seen many instances of death and hideous injury over and over again here in the UK and if anyone has tried releasing a dogs jaws from something it doesnt want to let go of its very hard however a 3 inch lock knife to the neck makes them release instantly. Really sad thing as we saw with the Sarah Everard case is that people are not allowed to carry anything to defend themselves we are classed as criminals if we arm ourselves against attack whilst the criminals dont care about any laws, they need to certainly look again at allowing licenced carry of pepper spray at the very least because this is a very good tool for prevention of attack from both dogs and humans, if tightly controlled this would be a good thing. Sad thing is if someone perceives what you have in your hands to be an offensive weapon then you are just as screwed anyway so you may as well ignore it, I know many people who carry 3 inch lock knives all the time one of my good friends even forgot and tried to board a plane with it in his pocket, the airport staff accepted he was a tradesman and was flying to site for work and just forgot, he had no bother at all and it was simply confiscated. Enjoyed this video.. SUBBED>
Had a perfectly good pocket knife, that I had carried all my long life, confiscated by an over jealous court official when I turned up to give evidence for the prosecution. I know it was stupid not to remove it beforehand, but was completely oblivious to the law. My understanding was that the blade was a quarter of an inch over the mandatory 3 and therefore was destroyed. Next time they need my evidence they can go whistle.
Don't blame the court, the government or anyone else for your stupidity. Ignorance of the law is no defence. Taking a knife to court is a stupid thing to do, for obvious reasons. If you feel your civic duty is lessened by them taking your illegal knife, I hope you never need someone to give evidence on your behalf. They might feel the same. 🙄
I'm so happy I live in Texas. In October 2020, law abiding citizens were allowed to carry anything for use in self defense. I see a lady taking a walk around the lake with a golf club on a regular basis. In September 2021, law abiding citizens are now allowed to carry a gun without a license as well. I'm happy to be able to watch this insane video and not worry about understanding any of it. Once they get the guns, they go for the knives. Tyranny knows no limits.
My good reason is to show you my price tag for knives like BRN, Fallkniven, Benchmade, Spyderco and also a lot of custom, high quality cutlery where cost of them reach +£350 and more. Most of knife crimes is done with £10 blade. If you spend more then 80 quid for a knife you want to keep it as your tresure, collectors item. So if I will walk home from knife shop with my recently, in box, freshly purhased blade I have bloody right to get it into my dwelling.
I was arrested 2 days ago for carrying a pair of scissors to cut some potato leaves from a public community garden. Someone phoned the police saying I had a knife that I was swinging around which was a lie. They stopped me telling me 2 drop the leaves on the ground searched me I had no knife 2 begin with but they handcuffed me & put me in a cell & was charged with breach of the peace.
The real law in Knives, some of what he stated was wrong, so here is a better picture 3 points on the law in the UK. 1st - You may carry a knife on you without reason, if it is 3 inches or under and non-locking, just not aloud to carry in Hospitals - Schools - Police Stations - Airport's for example, that does not include places like markets or shops. 2nd - You may carry a Knife that is 3 inches or over and Locking, and a fixed Blade as well if you have a reason to do so, ie Work - Hiking - Camping, you are not limited to a 3 inche or under non-locking knife for Camping. 3rd - If you are found with a knife that is over 3 inches locking or not and you are let's say out at 2am in town, you have the right to just hand it to the police that found it to be destroyed, you aren't going to jail or getting a fine or anything if you hand it in their and then.
For most of the last 40 years I have carried a Opinel knife which is used for cutting twine, opening bags and even cutting cucumber for my guinea pigs. I once got arrested (mistaken identity) and got my knife back as it tested for carrot and cucumber juice...
do you think there’s any chance to get the law amended to allow locking knives because as a Bushcrafter I’ve seen a few people get bad cuts from folding knives closing on them?
if u get cut from closing a knife maybe re training is needed or it sows you incompetence. carrying it for bushcraft aka camping is a justified reason. so did they have camping gear, prove u just left the forest .
@@Interdiction Won't actually stop you being arrested and being made to stand trial. You'll just be forced to take the stand and testify you had it for bushcraft while the prosecution uses every dirty trick in the book to incriminate you. Juries naturally presume guilt. Look at all the pomp and ceremony, the theatrics and expense... it's obviously ridiculous to do all that for an innocent man, will they presume so many authority figures are so wrong? Are juries to presume the police could be petty, vindictive and out of touch in charging someone? For all intents and purposes you must prove your innocence from a mere accusation.
Isn't it strange before we became a diverse society almost all men and boys carried a knife. Stabbings extremely rare not so today and what section of the public now do the most stabbing?
When you apply todays standards to those of the past this will always lead to sophistry. While we are here and as you have raised duels between consenting parties, when was the last one in the UK, Take the stage please, perhaps you can produce some modern day examples and produce some consenting stab victims?
@@shaunryan6 exactly my point, duels are banned so stabbings increased, lots of todays stabbings can be solved if it was just a duel instead, instead of stabbing the neighbour who keeps stealing your water, request a duel to shove a sword up his ass instead
Played around with plastic knifes in the jym with my instructor! Rolling around on the floor got stabbed don't know how many times! Very frightening stuff! Thankyou so much,
At 2:00 a Gerber STL 2.0 is shown to illustrate the allowed pocket knife size. This is probably an error; while the knife only has a 5.5cm blade it is a frame locking blade so is presumably not legal to carry in the UK. I carry one daily, but do not fear, I live in South Africa and will leave it at home if ever I return to the UK.
What about a peasent knife? It's held in with friction and how you grip the knife and that seems like the best option. How ironic would the name be if that were the case (especially with the royal family having many gaurds armed with firearms. Meanwhile in my state in the US anyone can conceal carry a pistol without the need for any permit or paperwork. Funnily enough we cant carry automatic knives longer then 3 inches.
@@Alucard-gt1zf how so? I'm first asking a question about the peasant knife; which to me I would find quite ironic that a country with a monachry would only allow the populus to carry a knife called a peasant knife. I can assure that facts for my state are correst.
Thank you. Most insightful. From the POV of the “offence of possession of a locking bladed tool in a public place”, would this extend to private property, too? For example when fly fishing along/in a river on private land (for which you have the land owners permission to fish and all other necessary licenses) but is carried for the removal of brambles, overhanging scrub, snags, emergencies and preparing firewood for fresh coffee or tea, given that non-locking bladed tools are so dangerous to the user? It’s a shame that the misuse of bladed tools have lead them be so taboo when it’s the use thats at fault and not the tool itself (tools designed specifically for combat or concealment etc excepted) . Aka “Blaming knives for crime is like blaming pencils for spelling mistakes” It also reminds me of a friend who has a fixed blade knife on his boat for the purpose of rescue/emergencies. It’s clearly visible on the console so could be considered “in a public place” when he’s moored alongside a quay etc. I presume the defence is the same that all parties aboard receive a mandatory safety briefing which covers location and use of the knife (along with flares, radio, and all other emergency kit) and the knife has a sensible and sane purpose. Carry of a knife onboard might actually be mandatory by the various maritime authorities, so that might be moot? I’ll have to check. Nevertheless, I am grateful for your insight and the wisdom you share on YT.
@@BlackBeltBarrister I have no doubt if paid to pursue a prosecution for such a thing you could dredge up an argument in favour of the prosecution, however it is patently obvious that a woodsman with a billhook and an axe, on any land where he was engaged or had permission to clear, would be unlikely to meet with the police in the first place. I also submit that the majority of people who use knives on a regular basis are law abiding and do not deliberatly set out to flout the law, alas that is not the case with those who habitually ignore the law in any form, they have the weight of numbers and probability on their side all too often in never being challenged or prosecuted for being the danger to the public on the streets that they are. If you have ever tried to call the police for anything you will know what I mean. When I was the victim of a street robbery, I never saw a policeman, all I got was a crime number, but no investigation, nothing....
Simon, in my opinion a knife is an essential piece of safety equipment on any boat that uses locks to enter or leave harbours or marinas or uses canal locks for the simple reason that when dropping down in a lock the usual practice is to feed out a doubled back line from the bow and the stern as the water level drops, if for any reason the line jams there is a major risk of capsize if the line isn't cut, to cut say a 15 or 18 mm mooring line with a tiny 3 inch non locking blade is totally unrealistic, I always kept a substantial fish filleting knife in the cockpit in its scabbard and would have strenuously have defended my right to do so on safety grounds, cheers John du Heaume.
It would probably help if you would carry a "proper" sailing knife on your boat, which has a rounded blunt tip, rather than the classic sharp pointed tip of other knives. Reason being, that it's only ever meant for cutting rope, and to avoid accidentally doing any damage to the boat or its crew, with a sharp tip, when the boat is heaving and rolling. On a side note, I once had occasion to visit a court (visiting, not attending... 😊), and had a cork float ball attached to my key ring (as you do when you spend time o your boat) , which very much excited the security guard at the entrance. He looked at it, and swung it into his other hand, obviously considering it as an implement to do harm (really?? I never thought of that..honestly...). Luckily the police officer accompanying us (a boater himself 😂) confirmed that it was a legitimate piece of boating g equipment, rather than an offensive weapon....
@@henkmeerdink2088 yes , I have one of those as well ! With the serrated blade and a fid, it's definitely longer than 3 inches and both the blade and fid lock out, I purchased the best fish filleting knife in a fisherman's chandlers in Newlyn, I guess most every useful knife I have is illegal.
Brilliant video. Just fantastic. I gotta say though, it's a sad state of affairs that this country considers a butter knife that has no edge or point to also be illegal. I was half expecting you to say the screwdriver was going to be illegal too, though I'm glad you didn't because I probably would have moved to the USA if you did!
Thank you so much - yes I agree it is a shame that the courts have had to interpret a flat, blunt, pointless butterknife as a knife because someone has used it to cause serious harm. However, the courts do say that they cannot possibly restrict all and every type of everyday articles such as screwdrivers!
@@BlackBeltBarrister if you are going for a picnic with bread and a jar of spread, that would be a reasonable defence to make that you had good reason, and don't try and tell me it is not as I won't pay you to be my defence. I used to carry a full set of cutlery with me to meals, but until I can find a folding legal butter knife I will be disappointed.
Even though a butterknife has no point or edge it has a relatively thin section and can generate enough pressure to penetrate the human body if thrust forcefully enough. A screwdriver may be considered legal but not if carried with the intent to harm or threaten . PS, Don't come to the USA it even crazier here.
You'd be welcome here in the USA, but we have our share of government idiots, too. It's a constant fight to keep them and their lawyer friends from interfering in our lives.
I go sea fishing and wild camping. I use my knife which fishing for cutting up bait and gutting my catch. When camping I take a different knife to perform tasks such as cooking and preparing wood for a fire. There are many more uses I practice when on the Moors or in the woods. I am a 64 year old ex AnE nurse and known what knives can do to a body...... I'm also an ex serviceman and discipline is a must when.....Would I be arrested while going to fish or going camping. I always carry the knife at the bottom of my rucksack and keep it wrapped up so making it difficult to get to....
No, under reasonable excuse. If you need a leatherman as an edc, you may be over compensating. I can see it as part of an emergency kit in your vehicle though, or if you cycle, in your backpack. Like he said though, if suspicious you can still be taken to court.
Nope I carry one everyday withn my proffession as I have a just reason to do so... THAT IS THE KEY POINT, you need a just reason... SImply saying it is my tool kit or edc is not(get a S.A.K for that)
This is a great video to put out there for people who don't know the laws on knives guys if you're in the UK and don't use a knife for work and just use one for a EDC in my opinion the Red victorinox Swiss Army knife is the best because everyone knows the Red Swiss Army knife and they have been about for 100s of years and anyway they are much stronger and better than having a big knife because back in the day the kids use take a poickit knife to school to use but now look at the way the world has gone guys I've been using Swiss Army knives for about 35years and I can say you don't need a big knife what ever someone can do with a big knife I can do with my Red victorinox Swiss Army knife but for work sometimes I do use a multi tool but most of the time I've got my little red Swiss Army knife with me it's all you ever need I would like to say thank you very much for sharing this video on UA-cam👍
I carry a boker plus 42, just under 3 inches, folding, non locking, use it in public frequently (as a tool). Last time it was to remove a security tag at the tills when the cashier could get it off with the magnet
I have one of those knives too but it's a bit tactical looking so watch out that some people don't take offense to it, unlike say the traditional Swiss army knife shall we say.
@@steveclark.. if someone takes offense to me using a legal pocket knife, and I get stop and searched for it, (which i would understand completely), I'm still in the clear. Its still just a tool that I'm using to complete a task
@@pawtrolling Yeah I totally get where you are coming from and agree, just pointing out that like with most things, looks can matter/bring attention,..... some folk may just think isn't worth the hassle if you see what I mean.
@@aaronellson23 I do agree with you,... just pointing out that it may lead to you having to explain why such a knife is legal to some plod even. Sometimes it's just not worth the hassle if you get what I mean.
I do have to wonder, given how non-fixed folding knives typically open/close, requiring pressure on the back (generally blunt) edge, what are people who are managing to close them on their fingers *doing* with their knives?
I was planning on taking a short bladed 12" machete carried in a backpack on my cross country geocaching walks, I use it to clear overgrown areas and clean around geocache sites which tend to get swamped in nettles and thorn bush. Would that be considered a good legal reason to carry a blade which falls outside of the folding knife exception? I've been carrying a bush knife on me for years whilst living in New Zealand and have been in the habit of carrying a folding knife on a daily basis, sadly I am now deemed a criminal for doing so in UK, as annoying as UK laws can be I prefer to keep myself protected from the police in terms of not giving them a reason to ruin my day if they happen to be having a bad day. Thanks.
Whilst I disagree with current laws regarding the carrying of certain bladed items and knives it is good to get direction to said laws and some sample cases where it has been applied, Thankyou again for sharing your knowledge! 🙏
@@BlackBeltBarrister I posted it in a few groups and so far it has been well received. as I said there will always be a few but that’s life 😅 regards Alex
@@forzaisspeed I’m not a lawyer but I think I can interpret the law quite well, however I would much rather have a Barrister give me a breakdown on the subject. In order for one to assume that it’s not that strict we would have to analyse every case individually, and I don’t think any of us want to do that. If it came to the grunt I’ll rather have a competent defence team do that for me. The way I read it is to stick to legal carry in public but have a reason for it as these days you rather more guilty until proven innocent and not the other way round as we led to believe. If I’m on my way to a private land with permission to practice bushcraft or any other outdoors activity’s such as cooking, foraging etc. Than I believe I should apply common sense when travelling to and from, respectfully admit what I’m carrying and justify my intentions. If it’s not accepted and I get put under caution than I will use my rite to no comment and let my lawyer do his or her thing, as sometimes by technicality I can stuff things up by saying the wrong thing under caution. Now all this is if I get stoped and searched, if the police officer decides to take it that far or if by any chance I’m on private land without permission and they decide to use my knife as an excuse to teach me a lesson. So as much as the video puts the law across as a bit more strict than people think it is I’ll stick to the advice as I know that laws were written in such a way that there are loopholes allowing for circumstances from both party’s to be able to prove innocent and guilty.
Hi, I am a Merchant Marine Officer, and have passed various first aid, life saving and firefighting courses. As I was taught during training, if I don't assist when it is reasonable for me to do so, even on holiday, it could be held against me. So I usually carry a Leatherman as a minimal intervention tool (cutting seatbelts or making tourniquet) - most of the time the Leatherman is in a first aid case in my backpack. Would this be unlawful in the UK? Edit: A non locking blade is dangerous as a tool, it could fold when I am using it and cause me to be an additional casualty.
I once asked a cop in Canada how big a knife one could carry around. He stated that he doesn't care if your walking around with a sword. As long as it wasn't hidden.
Sir, please could you do a follow-on video specifically focussed on flipper knives? Locking vs non locking. Is the flipper tab on the blade considered to be a button or device used to flip the knife into the open position, making it an illegal to own flick knife? Are sub 3 inch non locking flippers legal to carry? (e.g. Boker Plus Wasabi) Are locking flipper still legal to own if you keep it at home? (e.g. Ganzo Firebird) This is a big debate at the moment in the knife collector community and no-one seems to know the answer. Some retailers like knivedandtools have put a blanket ban on sending any flipper knives from Holland to the UK. Very interested in your thoughts.
Good video. All these laws do not seem to be achieving a lot re Urban knife crime among young black and white males in London and other cities and towns. For law abiding folks even an Opinel would fail, as the blade does have a locking mechanism, for a working knife, locking is a practical facet. Swiss army knifes should be okay.
*If an action doesn’t create a victim, it is a natural right* . Regardless of what some people write down in their magic buildings with their magic pens and call ‘law’.
A lot of the time I carry a what was described on the listing as a “uk legal knife” that locks since I am from the countryside and carry it as a tool for work but also as a survival tool since if I was to get lost in the woods or something I could use it to survive would that be a good enough excuse to carry it ?
It’s honestly depressing that people have to ask these questions, knives are tools adults shouldn’t have to be so worried about carrying a tool for daily use because some little shits keep stabbing each other
If the blade locks, it's not "uk legal". Swiss army style pocket knife with non-locking folding blade less than 3 inches is uk legal, a wetherman multi tool with locking blade less than 3 inches long, is not "uk legal"
@@thelogster Wrong .You can carry an 8 inch sheath knife if you have a legal reason to carry it .Bushcraft /Camping would be that reason or fishing etc
My friend almost started a blacksmithing business as a high school dropout in the pandemic in a region of unemployment, however the laws regarding knives are too strict to comply with for that so he is on welfare now and will be until he can leave the country.
It's because religious people will fight tooth and nail for their religious beliefs but Brits will mumble ok if you say so when the government sets Draconian laws over them.
I carry a sghian dubh when I wear my kilt. It has a real blade. Funny story from a wedding in England where I was being ribbed for wearing a skirt until someone needed to open a nicotine patch. Out came the sghian dubh.
If I go out with a newly sharpened pencil, but don't have any paper on me, will be suspected of intent to stab someone with a pointed object or will I be suspected of intent to graffiti?
As a knife man from backwoods North America I can affirm that any knife that follows all of the UK restrictions would be absolutely USELESS in the woods!!!
Stunningly restrictive laws. Maybe they should have just made stabbing illegal instead? You know, punish people who are out to do harm, not the general population at large.
Don't be silly, that's far too sensible! Punish the act and not the item used? Balderdash! I got his with a sliced wholemeal loaf that was straight out of the freezer once, it's a good job I wasn't seriously injured else there'd be a law against the illegal carry of a Hovis in a public place.
In my experience the old bill will try doing you for having a pair of nail clippers on your keys if they feel like it. When I go camping I take a UK legal Boker Plus, but if the situation ever arose despite it being a 3 inch slipjoint I would fully expect the police to take one look at it and sit me in the back of a police car, so I always make sure it's in my food bag with other cutlery, fork, spoon, spatula, condiments etc..
@@aaronellson23 Good for you Aaron, sadly I live in a CR postcode and work in SW postcodes so maybe not. The Met will do whatever they please to bump their figures. Two weeks ago i was about to be arrested by one of the Met's finest, whilst reciting my Miranda rights I pointed out I had camera footage of the whole alleged incident and subsequent entire interaction with the officer, the blood drained from his face and he dropped the whole thing on the spot. So no I wouldn't take any chances with the Met because all they have to say is you were being threatening and you're screwed, unless of cause you have irrefutable video evidence like I did. Thanks for the comment though 👍🏼
@@aaronellson23 I agree with you 110% my friend, it may have a lot to do with regional demographics and statistics, I'm sure it's not the same everywhere, but sadly here it's best to tread lightly.
Daniel ShenSmith, I’m sure that you been inundated with questions but I would just like some clarification on this if you may. When the law interprets a bladed or sharply pointed article and more in regards to a lockable one, would I be correct if I presume a lockable saw would fall under that interpretation. This is a very important question as 90% of wild campers outdoorsman/woman would have one in their possession when going out wild camping. Thank you
Yes in my view a lockable saw would be a bladed Article and not a folding lock knife because it has a blade and is not “immediately foldable at all times”. Therefore, the “good reason” would have to be explained. (More than a mere explanation)
@@BlackBeltBarrister It seems that the more laws that are passed, the higher the crime rate connected to it. Both in Knife and Firearms crime. Do not think overall is correct.
@@TheRealColt Don't start me off on gun crime. 100+ new laws penalising the Law abiding person, complicated to the point that the Police do not really know the exact Law and has achieved what with regards to Gun crime ? Overall sweet FA. The MP's just want to be seen to be doing something for the general public. Rarely is it constructive.
I think there are a lot of things that contribute to crime rates so the laws are just one thing to help combat it but of course by itself, it won't prevent it.
Hi my partner, a mental health nurse, has been on maternity leave and her employer hasn't paid her a penny since paid leave came to an end in February. She handed 8 week return to work notice in at end of January, although it wasn't acknowledged or accepted at the time. She also has an unused holiday entitlement as part of her contract which has not been paid. Her employer refuses to speak to her in any respect and in fact has remained totally silent in response to any contact from the RCN, other employees and now a solicitor. Other contact from senior staff has informed her that if she is found to be searching for alternative or simultaneous employment, any entitlement to holiday pay and furlough pay will be void. One more problem is that the owner of the home took over relatively recently and has failed to make clear if existing contracts are still as is and whether current policy is as before. Another problem is that during my partner's maternity leave, her employer's care home was shut down by CQC for breaches of standards of care, and while other employees are on furlough (and themselves often getting paid late or not paid), there's no clear position as to my partner's status on maternity leave with regards to how she transitions from maternity leave back to work while technically there isn't labour to return to. Should she be on furlough by default? Does it require the employer's express instructions? Please can you make a video with regards to the rights of employees on maternity leave, coming from maternity into furlough and these types of issues? What can be done about an employer that does not respond to any legal challenges and that does not respond in regards to queries about current company policy? Is it legal to withhold an employee's contractual entitlements if they search for any type of employment (my partner wanted to do agency work but still be contracted to her current employer)? Sorry for bombing the comments with a totally unrelated thing but we would like some clarity because her employer is wilfully refusing to provide any. She does already have a solicitor involved but the situation is so complex and confusing and her employer's conduct is so disgraceful and unprofessional it would be nice to have a video on these types of issues to help break it all down. To top it all off the solicitor involved says that he already has ongoing and past cases with the same employer for these types of issues and that these cases were drawn out and the failure to respond is a common characteristic of each case. The fact this man is allowed to own or run care homes with this track record is an injustice!
Example of legal folding, non-locking pocketknife:
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That blade is a serious accident waiting to happen - wrong motion and the blade closes on your fingers and does serious damage - that's why in the US locking blades are known as SAFETY knives
BTW, my spring loaded knife is completely legal even in the Demokratik Republik of Ill-noise because (until the Democrats finish turning us into the banana republic of their wet dreams) citizens in the US still have protected rights that aren't at the capricious whim of ignorant insulated politicians
@@ArchangelChi The only use you would even need it for though is as a cutting tool. To cut open a box or anything similar you don't even need to grip the whole handle of the knife and wrap your fingers around it anyway. Higonokami knives do address the problem you mention though, they fit within the legal boundaries of a non locking blade under 3" but they have a chikiri you can place your thumb on while you grip the handle.
You do realise those are Cannabis leaves printed on the blade, right?
Maybe pick a different one as an affiliate link 😆
@@peteg22397 haha good call.
@Vlad Tepes What I'm suggesting is that there's an obvious conflict of interests between a video aimed at explaining UK law, and a drug that is against the law in the UK.
I'm just suggesting that suggesting products with drug imagery might be counter to what this channel is about; especially when used as an affiliate link and therefore giving the channel creator money when people buy it? He seems to agree with me too, check his reply above.
Not sure what you're taking issue with.
I remember the days when gangs of youths walked the streets with knives but no one was ever hurt, you were even safe around them. I believe the gang in question called themselves The Scouts.
Did you ever play "stretch" when a scout? First badge anyone went for was the hand axe and knife badge.
While camping in Buxton, our scout leader took us into the knife shop to show us how to choose a sheath knife. The best ones had the blade through the handle. I bought a large one. We had them on our belt for cutting wood and making a bivouac. We didn't stab each other! Lol
@@madmackets yea, but back then kids were told off if they didnt behave. You cant tell a kid off these days without ending up in court.
@@madmackets I had a full tang Bowie knife as a scout, the blade was 10 inch long and no-one ever batted an eye. We used to go about with air rifles shooting rabbits and not even the police cared as we were shooting rabbits and nothing else. Possibly things were different in the Scottish Highlands back then, in the 80's I had a 7.62 S.L.R and several pistols. Now you can't even own an air rifle without a license, they are removing all our rights day by day. Do they think that criminals a care about a license for the illegal firearms they own and you as a law abiding citizen have no way of legally defending yourself. It's probably illegal to carry a fucking twig these days. Excuse my language but it's very frustrating to see what's happened to the legal gun owners in this country.
@@johnkidd797 I had lots of air rifles, we had a good wood nearby. We hunted rabbits, I had a rabbits foot hanging off my gun. The police once took my Diana repeater off me in the street though. Said it looked too real. The only legal weapon now is a spray can. “Red Alert” contains an oil based red dye, foul smell (similar to garlic) won't come off your skin or clothes. Not going to stop you getting hurt but it will inconvenience the criminal. Lol
I’m limited to a 3 inch blade that closes on my fingers more often than I’d like because the government wants to stop knife crime, even though 99% of those crimes are committed using giant dull kitchen knives.
its where the majority of shanked knives originate from.
As an American i totally saw this coming... Did they tell call people crazy who said "they will ban knifes next" back when the UK ban guns?
@Air gun hunter 2022 no pimp
@Air gun hunter 2022 my state is bigger than England lol and most European countries
Ban crimes, problem solved :)
The locking knife was made to lock to reduce crippling injuries to hands and fingers, in the USA and other places they are called "safety knives". It is perverse to penalise the many who use such knives for everyday tasks and who have zero intention of hurting anyone, including themselves, while a minority use every other kind of cheap, easily acquired, knife and screwdrivers to harm others. There are probably countless incidences of where ordinary folk with a safety knife have saved someone's life by using them for a legal purpose. In my own case before these tougher laws came into being I used my lock-knife, a Victorinox (Swiss Army type) serrated blade to cut someone free from car seat belts that had jammed and the car had started to smoke before it caught fire. One of my colleagues, an Ambulance driver, had his vehicle catch fire while operating solo, and would have had to use his multi tool with locking blade to cut the seat belts of wheelchair bound passengers. The vehicle he was driving was supposed to hold 6 walking patients and two wheelchair bound patients in the centre aisles, thus trapping the walking patients. He told me the seat strapping systems had many straps and to open them all would have led to the death of patients and himself. The only way to get them out quickly would be to cut the straps.The ambulance caught fire behind the drivers dashboard so he got out quickly but the passengers would then have needed rescue, he regularly says it is a miracle I was not fully loaded, the outcome would have been disastrous. yet even Ambulance crews are not allowed a locking tool it would seem. Medics and First Aiders all over the nation will have had instances where such a tool was vital and yet deemed illegal.
But from what Blackbeltbarrister has said, surely a Paramedic at his place of work carrying out his duties with the essential use of such a blade would be an exception to the rules if they show good reason for having it...?
UK law is perverse, everyone is guilty until proven innocent. Its pathetic here now, a nation full of scared little snowflakes.
@@septicsceptic419 these laws have existed for decades.
@@trashbank6148 not exactly true, theres an erosion of rights. The regulations around knives are increasingly ridiculous. My mate bought me a knife for Christmas which he believed was legal but recent changes means it's not as the blade is 4" instead of less than 3.
@@septicsceptic419 assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/186911/Knives_and_offensive_weapons_information_GDS_FAQ.pdf
the law has existed since 1988, so yeah, it's been a law for over 32 years, i.e "decades'.
The same people complaining about these laws will be the first to criticise the government for not doing enough to combat knife crime
Carried a knife everyday of my life since my Dad gave me my first Swiss Army Knife when I was 11. UK laws are an absolute disgrace, and I could care less if it's illegal, I refuse to be a victim. A knife is a tool, like anything else. If I could get away with it I'd carry a Sig P226. When seconds count, the Police are minutes away.
You say a knife is a tool, then say that you want to use it for self defence which makes it a weapon. Also, I'm quite happy not to carry a gun as long as the crazy guy down the road (probably you) doesn't get one either. How exactly is a knife good for self defence anyway? It won't stop you getting stabbed by the other guy. Pretty much any job you could possibly want to do in public can be done just as well with a folding knife as a fixed one.
@@harrylangton3206 youve obviously not ever had a dog attack a small child in your company, a knife is a very effective weapon to release the jaws of a dog from a kid its about to shake to death.
@@knoxieman Why would you think that? Actually me and my sister were attacked as children by dogs. My sister still has the scars. I don't think that "to stop random dog attacks" is a good enough reason to legalise carrying a knife as a weapon, because that is a better solved by people looking after their dogs and children.
@@harrylangton3206 Carried a weapon for years in the Military. Your opinions mean nothing to me I'm afraid. That said, if you were being attacked, I'm the sort of person to step in to stop it. All made a lot easier if I possess a force multiplier, which I do. Two actually. One fixed, one folding. Have a good one.
@@harrylangton3206 I think we've lived very different lives. The world we live in is a nasty place, people would sooner pull out a phone and start recording than actually step in to help someone being attacked. Which would you prefer, someone recording you being assaulted or someone able to make the difference and stop the assault? As stated in my original comment, when seconds count the police are minutes away.
Now I moved from England 15 years ago but part of the utter stupidity of these laws is that they are made by people who do not carry knives. They can’t see why someone would want to or need too, and if you were a lawyer that’s probably true, however there are a vast array of reasons outside the legal profession where there are legitimate reasons to carry a locking knife. I am asked for the lend of my knife frequently by people who don’t carry a knife. There are huge over reactions when teenagers commit knife crime, not to the knife crime and the reasons for it but to the type of knife used, it’s so much easier for a politician to ban cheap “zombie knives” then to look at the poverty underlying the crime. It makes them feel they did something that they can boast about to their constituents.
The largest majority of knife crime is committed by kitchen knives stolen from mom. It’s just not sensational. And lastly if I brandish my knife, threaten you with my knife or indeed attack you with my knife that is an illegal offense, we all agree on that, it shouldn’t need to be illegal to own it, it’s what you do with it that makes it illegal. I spent 15 yrs in the RM and I can tell you sitting in my workshop right now if In an emergency I had to defend myself my knife would be about the tenth thing I would pick up. 1-9 are all perfectly legal to carry.
please answer my question , am i allowed a knife disguised as a house key wich the blade flicks out of ???
@@molliehelena174 Emphatically no - not in the UK - not in a public place.
If you had paid attention, you would have heard that owning and carrying a knife is not a subject to strict liability. Apparently you advocate making it easier for criminals and those likely to misuse them, to get hold of knives. Ones more suitable and more capable of causing severe injury or death. You would no doubt encourage those people to carry them, but to just be more responsible with them? You'd just trust them not to do wrong? Perhaps we should follow the example set by the USA? After all, they've been so successful combatting gun crime. 🙄
A hammee, a spanner, a wrench, an axe, a drill, a chainsaw, a pan, a bucket, a mop, a broon, a hairspray , a lighter
@@sneekmatrix Spelling? Tut tut, go to the back of the class.
It's crazy to me that people would let their government get so out of hand. I was reading over some of the laws in the UK and it appears to me that even if you carried a metal pen and claimed it was for the purpose of self-defense you can be arrested for having an illegal weapon. It looks like these laws are doing nothing for the crime rate either. You even let them take away your freedom of speech.
AND, effectively, the right to protest.
Much of the problem boils down to not having a written constitution. Our government and police find tackling crime difficult, so they prefer to ban the object rather than tackle the root problem. Criminals, of course, ignore laws as that's the whole appeal of being a criminal.
Scoff all you like at the strict UK laws stopping innocent law abiding citizens from carrying multi-tools. It has never been so safe to stroll the inner cities at night, knowing that criminals are not carrying knives.
@@ponchymonchy but the criminals are carrying knifes. That's why they're criminals, ironically when a criminal demands something from a law abiding citizen the criminal knows that he/she can't defend themself.
Good to see the existing law on blade carry in the UK summed up so concisely and professionally.
Depressing that those restrictions exist, though.
Thank you for the kind words
Close enough.
www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives
Gov.UK
@@BlackBeltBarrister I would disagree about the end line in reference to camping & hiking. There are good reasons to carry for example eating at camp site, bushcraft, first aid etc. The rest seems spot on.
@@gavinmiller690 I agree, knives are a basic tool which humans have used in some form for a very very long time, bushcraft and wild camping REQUIRE a knife there is no two ways about it, usually a fixed blade, to deny humans of these basic survival tools is sick and a perversion of justice, in fact I would argue that current knife laws do nothing to protect anyone, since criminals intent on harming others will not be discouraged from carrying a weapon because it is illegal to do so. They only serve to disarm the law abiding populace by tyrannical governments for the purpose of control.
I once read a story written by a retired High Court judge in which he explained that as a small boy his father bought him a pocket knife and taught him to whittle and sharpen pencils with it. It was in his pocket at school at University and at work where he happily sharpened pencils for the typists etc. He then got called up for national service and his pocket knife went with him on active service. After the war he worked in law, became a qc and eventually retired. He said that during all this time he was never once inclined to stick it in anyone! We have too much law.
My first knife was given to me by my grandmother when I was still in primary school. That was a sheath knife and she saw it as an entirely appropriate gift for a young boy. For most of my life I carried a pocket knife and in all of that time, like you, I was never inclined it stick it in anyone.
Unfortunately the high court judges with any sense are gone, and have been replaced by these contemptible nannies, just like the rest of UK government. It was good to Brexit from the euro weenie nannies, but if you're just going to create the same thing at home, what's the point?
So if I go on a camping trip with a blade longer than 3" even if the blade is not made of metal I can be prosecuted and so I'm told face a four year prison sentence, even my plastic cutlery will have to be cut down to 3" because my reason for the preparation of food is not a good reason in the eyes of the law, astonishing.
Yes, that tiny blade in your Swiss Army Card (credit card sized plastic device with scissors, pen, magnifying glass etc) falls within the definition of an illegal bladed article. These draconian measures have coincided with a huge increase in knife crime. I was a custody Sgt for many years and it gave me much pleasure to release tradesmen, hunters, fishermen etc etc who had been arrested by over zealous officers. Sometimes the law is a complete ass. Don’t get me started on drink drive legislation! 😎
Really, I never took my Swiss Army Card anywhere because it was useless, but it's legal?
@@ganrimmonim the tiny knife blade in the card falls within the definition of a bladed article. The 3 inch blade limit only applies to folding pocket knives... every other type of knife with a fixed blade (of any length) falls foul of this hastily enacted, poorly drafted, knee-jerk preventative legislation. Knives do not injure or kill people. People do that.
@@Grim_Beard Thanks for that. Every day is a school day eh? You can see the logic though of the practical real-world extension of the definition. Always thought the legislation was pants so I used to NFA lots of bladed article prisoners if the circumstances did not chime with what I assumed the sprit of the legislation to have been. Released one guy who was arrested (admittedly drunk) with a pair of gardening secateurs. The case officer wanted the book thrown at him. When I asked to see them, they were so old and rusted they wouldn’t even open. Happy Days...
@@Grim_Beard I always carry my very useful (and expensive) Leatherman Wave Ti multi-tool. That has a locking blade so mine may be the case that goes all the way to the Supreme Court!! 😂
Link to a folding pencil sharpener?
Back in my day, we were taught as kids how to use knives as tools for all types of activities, army cadets, cubs, beavers, fishing and even gardening activities. These days knives are promoted as weapons which is reinforced by legislation that fail to get to the root causes of knife crime...
I'm old and rather decrepit now but about 50-60 years ago a mate and myself used to go hiking/camping all over the Yorkshire Dales and North York Moors etc. We both always had heavy duty, good quality sheath knives on our belts and used them for numerous things, even digging latrine holes. We would even go in to the pub at lunchtime/evening with them still strapped to our belts and nobody batted an eyelid as the people were used to hikers being 'dressed' like this. If there were other hikers present it was usual to get in to a discussion about where each other had been, where they were going and so on. Quite often this would lead to a discussion on what brand of equipment was best including sheath knives. Basically knives had either wooden, leather or bone handles. which one was the best being a topic of discussion. The one thing that all agreed on was that the blade needed to be the full length of the handle and 'riveted' to it. Cheap knives had a prong that went in to a hole in the handle and was glued in place. This often resulted in knives being openly displayed and handed round with the locals, many of whom were famers/farmworkers, joining in as they had their own ideas as to what constituted a good knife. The thing is that these knives were not looked on as weapons but as tools.
@@ChiefWizard666 I was born in the 80's and brought up in the Scottish Highland Countryside, most of us were in Cubs or Scouts and most of us had knives and would enjoy showing and comparing our knives,no one got hurt, but back then parents and mentors would teach you how to hold and handle a knife and most importantly never use it messing around or pretending or for play, also how dangerous it is, you know basic common sense, common sense sadly is a thing not many have nowdays. I don't know what happened to society but it isn't good.
@@sgthaggis1448 Yes, they were a tool, not a weapon. We never even considered them in that way.
Quite right it’s not the article it’s the mind that deploys it
Even I was, and that was in the 90s.
Nice to see Lex Luther has retrained and is making something of his life.
Lol!
He will learn. Shaving the head must be countered/balanced by facial hair, moustache and goatee looks good. Its a law.
@@quentinnewark2745 I've often wondered 😁
@@BlackBeltBarrister I have spent twenty years shaved. I was often called, when in white shirt or t shirt, "Mr Clean", like the advertising avatar. I also looked like one of those asian mushrooms, the long thin floppy ones, with a little ball at the top. Facial hair has ended that anaemia; 'designer stubble' at first, now full topiary.
@@BlackBeltBarrister Is it illegal to keep one in your home in storage as a keepsake or sentimental value if you don't bring it out with you in public?
Thanks for your clarification .
I wear a letherman tool for work , I also wore ,(up to this point ) my leatherman on my belt in public !
As I am sure you know the leatherman locks . Now i realise I have been wondering around with an illegal knife on my belt.
To me a knife is a tool and never a weapon..
totally agree and a locking blade is a "safety" feature on such a tool.
It is NOT ILLEGAL TO CARRY A MULTI TOOL IN UK Case Law R - V - Taylor St Albans Crown Court
There are a lot of cases R v Taylor, have you got a case number, date or anything else to whittle down the search?
@@gregoryfox9286 you need to provide a citation if you are going to assert this
Similar to yourself I carried a leatherman wave multi tool with a locking blades at all times until I learned of the potential problems that may have caused for me. I modified it so now the knife blades do not lock on opening (it's now a friction folder) and I still carry it and use it often, now legally.
that'll really make them think twice before stabbing someone when they realise that carrying a knife is illegal. If only the government made this more well known they could end knife crime overnight.
I like what you done there. Ahahahaha how pathetic are Uk laws
on top of that, does that mean, stabbing someone with a ligal knife is a lesser to no crime if the harm or damage to the victim isn't that severe?
Ah, missing the point completely. A worryingly common occurrence. Take a look at the gun crime and gun related deaths and injuries statistics (including accidental shootings involving minors) that are compiled and published every year. The annual figures are horrendous, they make the 9/11 bombings look tame. The greater the availability of weapons, the greater the number of people able to get hold of them with the intention of using them for illegal purposes. The USA is a perfect example of this.
@@by_His_accord If you had any intelligence, you would realise that the weapons laws are completely separate to the laws pertaining to assault etc. 🙄
@@by_His_accord If you had any intelligence, you would realise that the weapons laws are completely separate to the laws pertaining to assault etc. 🙄
all because little wona be gangsters cannot fight so they stab each other i have carried knive all my life and never stabbed enyone
Ironic part is the wannabe gangsta doesn't buy the knifes/multitools most here would use and carry as they prefer machettes or readily available kitchen knifes and of cause those lovely CHEAP zombie/Kambit knifes...
@@hudsonbear5038 yea dat right
the blanket ban on knives "and any other weapon" has just made ordinary people afraid to even own such things never mind carry them, and did it stop the shit heads killing each other?,,did it fuck.
Scumbag alert
@Eddie Hitler and only tyrants make tools into "weapons"
Hmm. So my undetectable ceramic, switchblade style, battlefield-ready locking karambit, carrying the inscription "Die, Scum, Die" is pretty borderline then?
I would say you might struggle with that 😉
@@BlackBeltBarrister Is that a maybe then?
Carry it in a plastic sleeve with the words "Demonstration item only" on it and you're golden :-p
You're better with G10. Just a suggestion.
@@kiwi_comanche G10?
Common sense has well and truly gone. Your issue are not knifes, your issues are societal and what your society has become!
Its a scapegoat because it's a lot cheaper to ban a tool than it is to invest in societal needs.
please answer my question , am i allowed a knife disguised as a house key wich the blade flicks out of ???
@@molliehelena174 no, no knives made to look inconspicuous are allowed
And until that is changed, restricting knives is a matter of common sense. If you have some magic formula to change society, please share it with us.
@@Tyler-zp5du If you have a foolproof and quick way to change society, please tell us. Last time I looked, it wasn't the Government's place to forcefully indoctrinate children and adults. I believe the USSR, GDR, China and North Korea have all tried it... you can judge for yourself how successful those regimes are/were.
You can not legislate away evil. You can only legislate away a good person's ability to defend from evil.
This message is, sadly, spot on. R
As a teenager I carried a bowie type sheath knife on my belt as did many of my friends. It was used for fishing, camping and carving. It was never used as a weapon. Along comes Tony Blair and suddenly we cannot carry a lock knife. He also banned pistols. It is ironic that apart from some police officers the only people carrying pistols (and knives) in the UK are violent criminals. Most British people who would carry a knife would use it responsibly but because of our pathetic Governments and justice system, the many have to suffer because of the few.
How would you know how someone else will use anything?
Why are you so arsed? Get a hobby.
Wow ! - and I thought, here in Germany we have strict knife laws !
These law-making people completely ignore, that most murders are committed with kitchen knives. Knowing, they can't ban kitchen knives, and in need "to do something" against knife-related crimes, they ban all sorts of useful tools.
Remember - a knife is nothing but a piece of metal, until the owner commits a crime with it.
Send them to jail and throw the keys away !
Well said mate
The ironry is you can fashion weapons from practically anything that will kill. I could go to a hardware shop and purchase a length of mild steel flat bar, some electrical tape and a file and make a straight bladed sword in about an hour that would hack limbs off. Issue is the UK governments are very trigger happy reactionary. We get a crime like a bloke cutting someone up with a samurai sword and now they are banned.
@@spwicks1980 It doesn't matter, if you buy it or make it, it's illegal to carry likewise, so DIY makes no sense.
@@mannihh5274 I was highlighting the futility of banning such weapons. The thing is, criminals dont follow the law. Banning samurai swords isnt going to make gang members say "right lads, no killing our rivals with katanas anymore. Its illegal to carry them"
Germany has pretty relaxed laws regarding knives and firearms … you want one … you can get some …
Remember the good old days when the king required every man to have a sword unless he lived in the woods and he was told to get a crossbow or something.
What about if you are an immortal and carry a sword because you have to fight other immortals to win the prize?
Asking for a Scottish friend.
There's always one,,,,,,
😂😂😂
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Well just tell your “Scottish friend” that it’s perfectly legal to have a sgian dubh knife on you (which is typically a fixed blade knife of 3.5 inches) so long as you are in appropriate traditional dress.....eg. so long as you’re wearing a kilt! 😀
If you're immortal then any prison sentence would be a mere blink of an eye to you, so what does it matter?
At last, an actual lawyer giving legal carry advice! Thankyou
Thanks for watching!
its almost exactly word for word what is written on the .gov website that comes up when you search "uk knife law"
it is even in the same order presented here, as if that is his source
and just like there, no emphasis is made on the knives that *are* legal, all of which means when you take out your under 3 inch non-locking, non-flicking non-disguised knife to dig out a splinter, or pop the top off a beer bottle, the entire room stares at you like you just cocked a gubn and shouted "everybody on the floor!"
@@isty4491 well it's worded in there but in legalise that most can't understand it also doesn't give specifics to allow officers to interpret based off their own opinion wether or not it is legal which is pathetic. 1 friction folder I have technically has a 7.5 inch blade but has just over 3 inches of cutting edge. So I guarantee that would be taken and I'd have a charge, the same would happen if you reversed that also. It should be more clear as to how to measure the blade for legality but no, they like grey areas that way they can fuck more people out of money in fines and have no regard to how that will affect their life, job, criminal record etc
@@isty4491 Trying walking to the icecream van with an 8inch diving knife on your leg .Hey I am diving chill .So many HACKY looks as I was a monster
Great video and worthy information... Just a shame the POLICE don't actually know and fully understand this... TWICE when checking my outdoor kit before heading into the Hills/mountains. Tjhe police have stopped and told me I was carrying an illegal knife (leatherman wave) and each time I could PROVE that I had a just reason for it(wildcamping and mountaineering) and then even showed them the relavent govermnet website to the be told it was incorrect. I have even been threatened with arrest when carrying my Swiss army knife huntsman,(was helping a barista fix a coffee machine so I could have my coffee) which is fully legal where ever I go as it meets the criteria (less than 3in, none locking)Thank fully on each occassion another colleague arrived and set the other officers straight. I have NEVER carried or carry an illegal knife and stay with in the law I have too due to my proffesssion. The police really don't have a clue alot of the time and jump on those of use who carry legally knifes with in the realms of the law.
Its definitely something that needs an awareness campaign to clue up the people more than the officers, the officers half the time know they're in the wrong and just want a power trip, if you make it common knowledge what can be carried they'll have a job to get away with it
You never broke this pathetic counter intuitive law but you still have bother. Those policeman should of been hung drawn and quartered right there in front of you for not doing their job correctly. I know I exaggerate but cmon that’s taking the piss. The police hassle you when you haven’t committed a crime..... meanwhile there would of undoubtedly been real crime happening simultaneously.... when I say real crime I mean crime which has a victim. Victimless crimes are just freedom scams and pathetic attempts to make people self police themselves
Easy prey they jump on us GOOD FOLK to get their targets up , gotta reach those targets . Add a healthy mix of "prevent" mind control programming and diversity programming and they see eveyone as terrorists , everyone now is suddenly guilty until proven innocent and more seem to not have any clue about common law . I wonder why they hired so many borderline psychopaths the past few years ..... Wasnt to help bring in the "new (ab)normal" was it ??
I was charged with possession of a knife on Monday and it was a 2 inch blade, non locking from work that I forgot was in my pocket and I put it in my driver door. Pulled over for a “random drug test” and boom, a night in the cells. Fingers crossed nothing comes of it as it is a legal carry (Lansing sharpeners world legal knife)
@@okcx3682 provided you did everything calmly and politely things should be fine, good luck getting the knife back though, especially without a receipt
In Crown Court case (Harris vs DPP, 1992) where an over enthusiastic lawyer managed to get the judge to rule that a foldable blade must be "readily and immediately foldable at all times". A locking knife is not “readily and immediately foldable” and hence is the same as a fixed blade for the purposes of the Criminal Justice Act (1988). Even more unfortunately this was ruling was upheld in a subsequent Court of Appeal judgment in 1998 (Regina vs Desmond Garcia Deegan, 1998) without leave for appeal.
So as ever, forget safety or parliament's wishes -- the law is an ass, and a couple of judges simply make it up as they go along. Far too much power in unelected hands.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video and answering some of the comments.
You're welcome and thanks for watching!
I don't know why YT sent me your direction but I'm glad it did. I enjoyed your presentation and have subscribed, I look forward to listening to your expertise on many other subjects.
Thanks!
@@BlackBeltBarrister same here most enjoyable
@@knoxieman 🙏
When I was a youngster in a UK junior school almost all boys carried a knife and the teacher would ask to borrow one to sharpen pencils etc. Camping I would carry a long bladed sheath knife, especially when with the scouts. I do not like non-locking pocket knives as it is too easy to fold and damage your fingers in certain operations. As usual the law appears to be an ass on this subject when the real problem is a social one and nothing to do with what is really just a tool. A living example of this is when a 17 year old carpentry apprentice came into the tool store and wanted to buy a set of chisels. I couldn't sell them to him. He was old enough to drive a car or get married but not old enough to buy the tools of his trade. Madness!!!!
The long bladed sheath knife would likely fall under the 'reasonable excuse' defence, whereby a reasonable person would have the knife in it's sheath, packed in your bag until you were at the camp site. Same as when police may be caused to stop and search a builder on their way to work in the early hours carrying such things as a Stanley knife, chisels, hammer etc. Legislation is written by lawyers, hard to read so they make money, but it's well written with the caveats. Even to the point of someone in possession of a hammer in their coat, without a reasonable excuse, is offensive weapon in a public place (made or adapted to be used as weapon of offence). I.e. a baseball bat with nails in it, blatant offensive weapon, or a hammer being used legitimately before being used to threaten and harm someone, same offence.
You're right about the age madness, you can be 16 and on the front gate of a military establishment with a loaded rifle, but can't drink or drive and only in Scotland can you vote!
I remember being 16 and trying to buy chisels so I could carve details on some chess pieces and getting ID'd! Absolutely mental. What crime can you do with a chisel that you can't do with a sharp piece of plastic or a screwdriver?
I’ve carried a pocket knife for60 years,all through high school.and in my adult life a folding knife as well .and carry a hand gun as needed. Of course I’m a free country U S A . It’s good to be reminded of our freedoms here,thank you for that !
You mean the Murderer Police state? It's not free at all.
UK knife laws are disgusting. The law actually says that the blade has to be "capable of folding", but a judge decided that it meant "capable of folding during use", and immediately made all locking knives illegal for general carry.
I carried a locking knife for years without realizing it was illegal. I had read the law, and thought I was following it, but I did not know about this precedent that had been set.
As for "good reason", it seems to me that you are guilty until proven innocent.
What counts as a "good reason" is more or less arbitrary and open to interpretation.
You can never quite be sure you are following the law, even if you are genuinely trying to.
I emigrated in 2009, and now live somewhere with absolutely no knife laws whatsoever. You can buy literally any knife you like, and carry it around with you perfectly legally.
Strangely enough, despite the fact that anyone can carry a switchblade, butterfly knife, or dagger, we have practically zero violent crime.
It's almost like knives aren't the actual problem...
Knives developed locks to make them safer to use, protecting your fingers from the blade unexpectedly closing while using it. England has now made it illegal to carry a safer tool, to satisfy their need for 'safety' from the individual. I once actually looked up if Churchill died childless and Chamberlain had 20 kids; it would explain an awful lot about today's Great Britain.
If you can't use a folding knife without cutting your fingers off then I'd suggest you've no business having one to begin with.
If you have good reason to carry a locking knife in public with a blade exceeding three inches it's not illegal.
@@barnabywild2215 I've used a fix 6" blade when fishing for mackerel on piers and beaches in the past. They need cleaning immediately in summer.
People who came to look didn't bat an eyelid. I don't sea fish now, but if I did I imagine I'd be better off using discretion now!
@@deanwaller8283it happens to everybody from the kid who just got his first knife to the old man who's carried one for 60 years, dont be so judgemental
As a knife collector and a bushcraft practitioner I've always found the law regarding locking blades silly, the whole reason for the blade to lock is as a safety feature to stop it closing on the user's hand, something a few of my local police officers agree with as when measuring folders they ignore the fact that it locks something I've seen them do this during a random stop and search (it was fun seeing the look on their faces when I answered the "do you have anything on you that can harm either myself, my colleague or yourself" with a nice long list including hatchets, machetes, knives and a bow (I was on my way home from teaching a survival class lol) best part was their response officer 1 "I say we didn't find anything" officer 2 "yeah" they even gave me a lift home. Another time the officer radioed his sergeant to check, the sergeant knows me and basically told them it was fine they didn't have to worry lol)
The only difference between someone getting stabbed/slashed with a lock knife or a non lock knife is that the lock knife was locked and the non lock knife was not locked.. 😂
All you need to do is hold the knife upside down. Stabbing motions are normally an upwards motion so if the non locking knife is upside down then it won't close on your fingers. The laws around knives in the UK are as stupid as the laws around suppressors in the US, they make no sense and are created by people that know nothing about the items they're creating the laws about, people that are scared of their own shadow.
@@Grim_Beard Didn't know that, thanks for the info (:.:)7
@@Grim_Beard we need a revolution, the UK is out of hand the police are simply out to grab money from any wrongful charge they can and because they know most of us either can't afford to/don't have the knowledge to apply for a private prosecution against them, and even if we did, they would probably win regardless of right and wrong. Until thousands of us line the streets in protest about this it will continue to get worse and worse.
@@supersport177ify yep so you'd better get on with it
Blame Jackie Smith ( Home Secretary) of a Labour government for this over reaction that even makes boy scouts illegal with a pocket knife!
60 years ago when I was a boy scout we all had sheath knives as part of our uniform. They were used for cutting firewood, cutting food and lots of other things. I wonder what they do now.
Probably get taught about diversity and inclusion while getting fiddled by the staff at night.
i know they shoot catapults .....thats a start
They still do that, they just don't wear them....they will be carried by a scout master or troop leader (in a box or bag) and handed out for the task and handed back in at completion.
Go to McDonalds
Great concise explanation.
I’m a sharpener and I’m always looking for something to show or send to customers who ask me to sharpen their knives. In my case a reasonable reason is bringing it to me as a sharpener, but many people carry locking knives and multi tools thinking they are legal.
Holy crap you guys need freedom
Ikr its illegal to own a knuckle duster and u can go to prison for it PRISON
@@slate088 Freeman are armed.I don’t care if it’s a knuckle duster ,44 mag revolver or a laser freeman should be armed.
Here in Vermont USA, I bought a bushcraft style knife with a 4” blade back in 1985. I’ve open carried it everywhere I go ever since then, including banks and post offices and never had a problem.
Nothing like getting a penknife closing on your fingers when you doing some things
Having read the comments I think a lot of people are focusing on the physical specifications of knives as to what is or is not Legal. However a big part of the legal process is determination/proof of intent. It's possible to kill someone with a butter knife, and so if found with one on your person in a public place you will need to convince the police that the only thing you have the intention of murdering is a huge stack of toast. Almost any item can be considered illegal if it can be shown to be carried with unlawful intent. For example lock picks are illegal unless you are a locksmith, because of the implied intent of possessing them is overwhelmingly illegal. "But they are my emotional support picks" will not cut it. Great post by the way.
Thanks for watching!
Would rather need a lawyer than a funeral director. Carry on gents.
Better to be tried by twelve people than carried by six
Have you ever been through the divorce courts? Take my advice, skip the lawyer....make friends with a funeral director and fake your own death. "I'm no stranger to pain..i've been married...twice" Frank Drebin
If you carried for let alone used a blade for self-defence you'd be locked up twice as long as any attacker guaranteed
Using a knife for self defence is pretty dumb...
40 years ago i was a butcher at Sainsburys. I had supplied my own knives & on my long weekends i used to fashion a cardboard sheath for both my boning knife & steak knife & take them home with me on the train, never had any problem. And the reason i took them home was i didn't want MY knives being used to hack frozen meat & abused by a couple of the assholes we had working there. I was very particular about my knives & the block i worked at. The law's an ass!!
He said reasonable exemption though? My sister brought in a knife to work as she worked as a chef, that was her exception
I think it depends on which officers you get. My friend was charged and had his knife confiscated. He’s a tree surgeon on his way home from a job. He was also carrying his crossbow and chainsaw in his car.
These laws have done absolutely nothing but harm and endanger the law-abiding regular person, criminals don't care for laws and never have done and never will by their very nature of being a criminal; someone who is breaking the law.
Murder and violent assault is already illegal, blaming the tool / weapon for an attack is like blaming your pen for when you fail an exam.
Next week: A man sentenced to 5 years for being in possession of a sharp stick used to smoke fish at the River side
title of that section is "139 Offence of having article with blade or point in public place.". Sharp sticks have a point so are actually illegal in a public space. Use in fishing or the cooking of fish in a public place is apparently not considered lawful reason, certainly under Scottish law anyway, I dont see E&W legal interpretation differing much. I've just been reading comments on another video on the same subject, where an individual was arrested and received a £750 fine in court for carrying a 1.5 inch non-locking folding knife for the purposes of gutting fish at the riverside. He was fishing when the arrest took place.
Oh and just looked again at the act:
Subject to subsection (3) below, this section applies to any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except a folding pocketknife.
(3)This section applies to a folding pocketknife if the cutting edge of its blade exceeds 3 inches.
Pencils are sharply pointed and are not folding knives with a blade length less than 3 centimetres, so a pencil is illegal in a public place and for that matter so is a pen. By the legal definition, only a wide-tipped marker pen is legal carry
@@insertwittynamehere8947 and people wonder why the why the libertarian -> far-right pipeline exists.
A FIRE next to a RIVER? What freedoms do you speak of?
@@insertwittynamehere8947 wow and here I am a pike Fisher man who uses a kitchen knife to cut dead bait down to size.... Iv had this kitchen knife in my fishing box every since I was a kid and its still in there.
I live in Tennessee, USA.
In 2014, a law was passed here that made ALL blades and "bladed objects" legal to own and carry.
It doesn't matter what it is... a "switchblade" with a 6 inch blade, a sword, or anything in between; it's all okay, under our law.
Many people were upset when this law was proposed, wringing their hands and worrying about all the stabbings and slashings they were sure would ensue.
Now, here we are in 2021, and none of those horrors ever happened. Crimes with knives did not increase.
I suspect the reason for this is all the people wandering around this state who carry guns.
P.S. July of this year, another law goes into effect. It allows people to carry a handgun on their person, either openly or concealed, without any permit or license.
Anybody care to make a prediction on how they think that will go? Do you think we'll start having shoot-outs on every corner, or robberies and other crimes using firearms suddenly skyrocket?
Or do you understand that "An armed society is a polite society"?
Fascinating - there is a great debate on this subject. I am not convinced that strict laws necessarily make for a safer society - I think the attitudes and tolerances make a greater difference.
@@BlackBeltBarrister - It's been my experience that a person's attitude becomes a lot more... civil... if they know that doing otherwise may result in far more violent action being taken toward them than they can tolerate or muster themselves.
There's a very non-politically-correct saying here, where I live: "Never throw shit at an armed man, nor stand too close to anyone doing so."
Intelligent people understand exactly what that means. It's only those that think someone else will protect them that don't, or believe that they can do as they please without consequences or harm.
P.S. Take a look at the laws and crime rates here in the U.S. sometime.
You'll probably notice that those places with fewer laws concerning owning, carrying, and using firearms in self-defence have lower violent crime rates than places with much more strict laws.
You think that's a coincidence? Or is it cause and effect?
Conversely UK firearm laws became ever stricter and yet shooting carried out by criminals increased. It's what they do. You'd think politicians would appreciate that as lawmakers - because ours are some of the most corrupt and disonest in Europe.
@@barnabywild2215 - that's because criminals don't follow the law. They do as they please.
The law-abiding, on the other hand, do what the law requires. Which includes not shooting or stabbing people.
Also, by itself, the law does nothing to prevent crime. It only defines what is a crime, and how it is to be punished when that act is committed.
It doesn't prevent a damn thing.
PS I know how to make both knives and guns. I have the required skills and knowledge.
How are you gonna ban that?
Great information! I actually thought that 3" locking knives were legal. I've always had one for work and take one wild camping. I'm afraid I'd never use a "folding" knife - they're just too dangerous. I'd rather pay a fine or sit in a cell for a few months, than risk losing my fingers.
As they've stated before, work and wild camping is usually a 'reasonable excuse' for a locking knife. I.e. you'll often have a stanley knife in your tool box. I also would never bother using a folding knife camping, great way to injure yourself.
@@paddyreeves1 tricky one because if you get caught camping on private land you could get done for armed trespass which will really ruin your day.
@@mountainbearoutdoorstrespassing isn’t illegal until you’re asked to leave
To show how stupid UK knife laws are they say you can carry a knife for religious reasons but not for self defence? from an attack which these days can sometimes come from people with strongly religious reasons, if your answer to even carrying a small swiss army knife is that it is for self defence you are committing a crime, you can argue sure that its better not to fight people with a knife which there is a good argument for however what about a dog attack? we have seen many instances of death and hideous injury over and over again here in the UK and if anyone has tried releasing a dogs jaws from something it doesnt want to let go of its very hard however a 3 inch lock knife to the neck makes them release instantly.
Really sad thing as we saw with the Sarah Everard case is that people are not allowed to carry anything to defend themselves we are classed as criminals if we arm ourselves against attack whilst the criminals dont care about any laws, they need to certainly look again at allowing licenced carry of pepper spray at the very least because this is a very good tool for prevention of attack from both dogs and humans, if tightly controlled this would be a good thing.
Sad thing is if someone perceives what you have in your hands to be an offensive weapon then you are just as screwed anyway so you may as well ignore it, I know many people who carry 3 inch lock knives all the time one of my good friends even forgot and tried to board a plane with it in his pocket, the airport staff accepted he was a tradesman and was flying to site for work and just forgot, he had no bother at all and it was simply confiscated.
Enjoyed this video.. SUBBED>
Thanks for watching!
Had a perfectly good pocket knife, that I had carried all my long life, confiscated by an over jealous court official when I turned up to give evidence for the prosecution.
I know it was stupid not to remove it beforehand, but was completely oblivious to the law.
My understanding was that the blade was a quarter of an inch over the mandatory 3 and therefore was destroyed.
Next time they need my evidence they can go whistle.
Don't blame the court, the government or anyone else for your stupidity. Ignorance of the law is no defence. Taking a knife to court is a stupid thing to do, for obvious reasons. If you feel your civic duty is lessened by them taking your illegal knife, I hope you never need someone to give evidence on your behalf. They might feel the same. 🙄
@@another3997let’s hope your seatbelt doesn’t get jammed in a smoking car
I'm so happy I live in Texas. In October 2020, law abiding citizens were allowed to carry anything for use in self defense. I see a lady taking a walk around the lake with a golf club on a regular basis. In September 2021, law abiding citizens are now allowed to carry a gun without a license as well.
I'm happy to be able to watch this insane video and not worry about understanding any of it.
Once they get the guns, they go for the knives. Tyranny knows no limits.
How many gun deaths in texas last year?
My good reason is to show you my price tag for knives like BRN, Fallkniven, Benchmade, Spyderco and also a lot of custom, high quality cutlery where cost of them reach +£350 and more.
Most of knife crimes is done with £10 blade.
If you spend more then 80 quid for a knife you want to keep it as your tresure, collectors item. So if I will walk home from knife shop with my recently, in box, freshly purhased blade I have bloody right to get it into my dwelling.
I was arrested 2 days ago for carrying a pair of scissors to cut some potato leaves from a public community garden. Someone phoned the police saying I had a knife that I was swinging around which was a lie. They stopped me telling me 2 drop the leaves on the ground searched me I had no knife 2 begin with but they handcuffed me & put me in a cell & was charged with breach of the peace.
Thanks for keeping us on the right side of the law mate
Thank you for watching and sharing!
The real law in Knives, some of what he stated was wrong, so here is a better picture 3 points on the law in the UK.
1st - You may carry a knife on you without reason, if it is 3 inches or under and non-locking, just not aloud to carry in Hospitals - Schools - Police Stations - Airport's for example, that does not include places like markets or shops.
2nd - You may carry a Knife that is 3 inches or over and Locking, and a fixed Blade as well if you have a reason to do so, ie Work - Hiking - Camping, you are not limited to a 3 inche or under non-locking knife for Camping.
3rd - If you are found with a knife that is over 3 inches locking or not and you are let's say out at 2am in town, you have the right to just hand it to the police that found it to be destroyed, you aren't going to jail or getting a fine or anything if you hand it in their and then.
@@forzaisspeed 🤦♂️ please do particularise anything you claim is wrong and I will show you where it is in legislation
For most of the last 40 years I have carried a Opinel knife which is used for cutting twine, opening bags and even cutting cucumber for my guinea pigs. I once got arrested (mistaken identity) and got my knife back as it tested for carrot and cucumber juice...
UK knife laws have ensured only criminals carried knives. They must feel safer already.
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Laws in UK are made buy criminals for other criminals 😜
do you think there’s any chance to get the law amended to allow locking knives because as a Bushcrafter I’ve seen a few people get bad cuts from folding knives closing on them?
if u get cut from closing a knife maybe re training is needed or it sows you incompetence.
carrying it for bushcraft aka camping is a justified reason. so did they have camping gear, prove u just left the forest .
If you are practising Bush craft you can carry a sheath knife LEGALLY
Hopefully John. Seems a bit wishy washy at present.
@@Interdiction Won't actually stop you being arrested and being made to stand trial. You'll just be forced to take the stand and testify you had it for bushcraft while the prosecution uses every dirty trick in the book to incriminate you.
Juries naturally presume guilt. Look at all the pomp and ceremony, the theatrics and expense... it's obviously ridiculous to do all that for an innocent man, will they presume so many authority figures are so wrong? Are juries to presume the police could be petty, vindictive and out of touch in charging someone?
For all intents and purposes you must prove your innocence from a mere accusation.
If anything they're more likely to ban the non locking knives for carry too
Isn't it strange before we became a diverse society almost all men and boys carried a knife. Stabbings extremely rare not so today and what section of the public now do the most stabbing?
Chavvy teens usually
Isn’t it strange how the truth vanishes.
"Stabbings were rare" there goes all the history of duels
When you apply todays standards to those of the past this will always lead to sophistry. While we are here and as you have raised duels between consenting parties, when was the last one in the UK, Take the stage please, perhaps you can produce some modern day examples and produce some consenting stab victims?
@@shaunryan6 exactly my point, duels are banned so stabbings increased, lots of todays stabbings can be solved if it was just a duel instead, instead of stabbing the neighbour who keeps stealing your water, request a duel to shove a sword up his ass instead
Played around with plastic knifes in the jym with my instructor! Rolling around on the floor got stabbed don't know how many times! Very frightening stuff! Thankyou so much,
Do a video explaining UK firearm laws please. I'm interested in the provisions that allow farmers to own and operate guns.
At 2:00 a Gerber STL 2.0 is shown to illustrate the allowed pocket knife size. This is probably an error; while the knife only has a 5.5cm blade it is a frame locking blade so is presumably not legal to carry in the UK. I carry one daily, but do not fear, I live in South Africa and will leave it at home if ever I return to the UK.
What about a peasent knife? It's held in with friction and how you grip the knife and that seems like the best option. How ironic would the name be if that were the case (especially with the royal family having many gaurds armed with firearms. Meanwhile in my state in the US anyone can conceal carry a pistol without the need for any permit or paperwork. Funnily enough we cant carry automatic knives longer then 3 inches.
90% of what you just wrote is wrong
@@Alucard-gt1zf how so? I'm first asking a question about the peasant knife; which to me I would find quite ironic that a country with a monachry would only allow the populus to carry a knife called a peasant knife. I can assure that facts for my state are correst.
Small correction , 2:28 that isn’t a butterfly knife , butterfly knives are like mini cutlasses , that’s a balisong
Thank you. Most insightful. From the POV of the “offence of possession of a locking bladed tool in a public place”, would this extend to private property, too? For example when fly fishing along/in a river on private land (for which you have the land owners permission to fish and all other necessary licenses) but is carried for the removal of brambles, overhanging scrub, snags, emergencies and preparing firewood for fresh coffee or tea, given that non-locking bladed tools are so dangerous to the user? It’s a shame that the misuse of bladed tools have lead them be so taboo when it’s the use thats at fault and not the tool itself (tools designed specifically for combat or concealment etc excepted) . Aka “Blaming knives for crime is like blaming pencils for spelling mistakes”
It also reminds me of a friend who has a fixed blade knife on his boat for the purpose of rescue/emergencies. It’s clearly visible on the console so could be considered “in a public place” when he’s moored alongside a quay etc. I presume the defence is the same that all parties aboard receive a mandatory safety briefing which covers location and use of the knife (along with flares, radio, and all other emergency kit) and the knife has a sensible and sane purpose. Carry of a knife onboard might actually be mandatory by the various maritime authorities, so that might be moot? I’ll have to check.
Nevertheless, I am grateful for your insight and the wisdom you share on YT.
Thanks for your comments! I will reply more fully in due course.
@@BlackBeltBarrister I have no doubt if paid to pursue a prosecution for such a thing you could dredge up an argument in favour of the prosecution, however it is patently obvious that a woodsman with a billhook and an axe, on any land where he was engaged or had permission to clear, would be unlikely to meet with the police in the first place. I also submit that the majority of people who use knives on a regular basis are law abiding and do not deliberatly set out to flout the law, alas that is not the case with those who habitually ignore the law in any form, they have the weight of numbers and probability on their side all too often in never being challenged or prosecuted for being the danger to the public on the streets that they are. If you have ever tried to call the police for anything you will know what I mean. When I was the victim of a street robbery, I never saw a policeman, all I got was a crime number, but no investigation, nothing....
Simon, in my opinion a knife is an essential piece of safety equipment on any boat that uses locks to enter or leave harbours or marinas or uses canal locks for the simple reason that when dropping down in a lock the usual practice is to feed out a doubled back line from the bow and the stern as the water level drops, if for any reason the line jams there is a major risk of capsize if the line isn't cut, to cut say a 15 or 18 mm mooring line with a tiny 3 inch non locking blade is totally unrealistic, I always kept a substantial fish filleting knife in the cockpit in its scabbard and would have strenuously have defended my right to do so on safety grounds, cheers John du Heaume.
It would probably help if you would carry a "proper" sailing knife on your boat, which has a rounded blunt tip, rather than the classic sharp pointed tip of other knives. Reason being, that it's only ever meant for cutting rope, and to avoid accidentally doing any damage to the boat or its crew, with a sharp tip, when the boat is heaving and rolling.
On a side note, I once had occasion to visit a court (visiting, not attending... 😊), and had a cork float ball attached to my key ring (as you do when you spend time o your boat) , which very much excited the security guard at the entrance. He looked at it, and swung it into his other hand, obviously considering it as an implement to do harm (really?? I never thought of that..honestly...). Luckily the police officer accompanying us (a boater himself 😂) confirmed that it was a legitimate piece of boating g equipment, rather than an offensive weapon....
@@henkmeerdink2088 yes , I have one of those as well ! With the serrated blade and a fid, it's definitely longer than 3 inches and both the blade and fid lock out, I purchased the best fish filleting knife in a fisherman's chandlers in Newlyn, I guess most every useful knife I have is illegal.
This is the type of guy I need when I’m in a bit of bother ! Bravo for your perfect explanation 👏
Brilliant video. Just fantastic.
I gotta say though, it's a sad state of affairs that this country considers a butter knife that has no edge or point to also be illegal. I was half expecting you to say the screwdriver was going to be illegal too, though I'm glad you didn't because I probably would have moved to the USA if you did!
You know that in a lot of stats a lot of knives are banned as well.
Thank you so much - yes I agree it is a shame that the courts have had to interpret a flat, blunt, pointless butterknife as a knife because someone has used it to cause serious harm. However, the courts do say that they cannot possibly restrict all and every type of everyday articles such as screwdrivers!
@@BlackBeltBarrister if you are going for a picnic with bread and a jar of spread, that would be a reasonable defence to make that you had good reason, and don't try and tell me it is not as I won't pay you to be my defence. I used to carry a full set of cutlery with me to meals, but until I can find a folding legal butter knife I will be disappointed.
Even though a butterknife has no point or edge it has a relatively thin section and can generate enough pressure to penetrate the human body if thrust forcefully enough. A screwdriver may be considered legal but not if carried with the intent to harm or threaten . PS, Don't come to the USA it even crazier here.
You'd be welcome here in the USA, but we have our share of government idiots, too. It's a constant fight to keep them and their lawyer friends from interfering in our lives.
I love that lock knife. Exactly the same as the one my dad had as a senior civil servant. Used it to cut his lunchtime apple.
Surprised you didn't mention what's probably the most common good reason: "I just bought this kitchen knife and I'm taking it home from the shop."
I go sea fishing and wild camping.
I use my knife which fishing for cutting up bait and gutting my catch.
When camping I take a different knife to perform tasks such as cooking and preparing wood for a fire.
There are many more uses I practice when on the Moors or in the woods.
I am a 64 year old ex AnE nurse and known what knives can do to a body......
I'm also an ex serviceman and discipline is a must when.....Would I be arrested while going to fish or going camping.
I always carry the knife at the bottom of my rucksack and keep it wrapped up so making it difficult to get to....
So I presume that a Leatherman multi tool is now useless in the UK and sales will plum it.
No, under reasonable excuse. If you need a leatherman as an edc, you may be over compensating. I can see it as part of an emergency kit in your vehicle though, or if you cycle, in your backpack. Like he said though, if suspicious you can still be taken to court.
Think with a multi tool if your in a uniform you could justify as work related EDC.
If your out shopping with the kits not so much so I guess
Nope I carry one everyday withn my proffession as I have a just reason to do so... THAT IS THE KEY POINT, you need a just reason... SImply saying it is my tool kit or edc is not(get a S.A.K for that)
@@davidrobinson3453 no that does not give you a good reason..You could simply be attending a function in uniform which would not give you a reason...
Yes but also not just "in the van after work while you go to the pub" - that will no longer be a good reason.
This is a great video to put out there for people who don't know the laws on knives guys if you're in the UK and don't use a knife for work and just use one for a EDC in my opinion the Red victorinox Swiss Army knife is the best because everyone knows the Red Swiss Army knife and they have been about for 100s of years and anyway they are much stronger and better than having a big knife because back in the day the kids use take a poickit knife to school to use but now look at the way the world has gone guys I've been using Swiss Army knives for about 35years and I can say you don't need a big knife what ever someone can do with a big knife I can do with my Red victorinox Swiss Army knife but for work sometimes I do use a multi tool but most of the time I've got my little red Swiss Army knife with me it's all you ever need I would like to say thank you very much for sharing this video on UA-cam👍
Thank you!
I carry a boker plus 42, just under 3 inches, folding, non locking, use it in public frequently (as a tool). Last time it was to remove a security tag at the tills when the cashier could get it off with the magnet
I have one of those knives too but it's a bit tactical looking so watch out that some people don't take offense to it, unlike say the traditional Swiss army knife shall we say.
@@steveclark.. if someone takes offense to me using a legal pocket knife, and I get stop and searched for it, (which i would understand completely), I'm still in the clear.
Its still just a tool that I'm using to complete a task
@@pawtrolling Yeah I totally get where you are coming from and agree, just pointing out that like with most things, looks can matter/bring attention,..... some folk may just think isn't worth the hassle if you see what I mean.
@@steveclark.. Let them take offence, who cares. You’re doing nothing wrong people like that are the reason we are losing all our liberties
@@aaronellson23 I do agree with you,... just pointing out that it may lead to you having to explain why such a knife is legal to some plod even. Sometimes it's just not worth the hassle if you get what I mean.
Great video! Good clear factual information and under 6 minutes. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
So is a locking knife just illegal to carry but ok to own/possess? Say at home but take camping?
I carry knife every day primarily for work but also incase of a pig attack
Stop cheating on your pigs
I do have to wonder, given how non-fixed folding knives typically open/close, requiring pressure on the back (generally blunt) edge, what are people who are managing to close them on their fingers *doing* with their knives?
I was planning on taking a short bladed 12" machete carried in a backpack on my cross country geocaching walks, I use it to clear overgrown areas and clean around geocache sites which tend to get swamped in nettles and thorn bush. Would that be considered a good legal reason to carry a blade which falls outside of the folding knife exception? I've been carrying a bush knife on me for years whilst living in New Zealand and have been in the habit of carrying a folding knife on a daily basis, sadly I am now deemed a criminal for doing so in UK, as annoying as UK laws can be I prefer to keep myself protected from the police in terms of not giving them a reason to ruin my day if they happen to be having a bad day. Thanks.
Absolutely no chance the police would consider that a good enough reason unfortunately
Whilst I disagree with current laws regarding the carrying of certain bladed items and knives it is good to get direction to said laws and some sample cases where it has been applied,
Thankyou again for sharing your knowledge! 🙏
Thank you very much for making this video, this will be a viable piece of footage for the outdoor community
Glad it was helpful!
@@BlackBeltBarrister I posted it in a few groups and so far it has been well received. as I said there will always be a few but that’s life 😅 regards Alex
@@BeeOutdoors thank you!
@@BeeOutdoors
You know some of the things he stated in the video is wrong right, the law on knives are not that strict.
@@forzaisspeed I’m not a lawyer but I think I can interpret the law quite well, however I would much rather have a Barrister give me a breakdown on the subject. In order for one to assume that it’s not that strict we would have to analyse every case individually, and I don’t think any of us want to do that. If it came to the grunt I’ll rather have a competent defence team do that for me.
The way I read it is to stick to legal carry in public but have a reason for it as these days you rather more guilty until proven innocent and not the other way round as we led to believe. If I’m on my way to a private land with permission to practice bushcraft or any other outdoors activity’s such as cooking, foraging etc. Than I believe I should apply common sense when travelling to and from, respectfully admit what I’m carrying and justify my intentions. If it’s not accepted and I get put under caution than I will use my rite to no comment and let my lawyer do his or her thing, as sometimes by technicality I can stuff things up by saying the wrong thing under caution.
Now all this is if I get stoped and searched, if the police officer decides to take it that far or if by any chance I’m on private land without permission and they decide to use my knife as an excuse to teach me a lesson. So as much as the video puts the law across as a bit more strict than people think it is I’ll stick to the advice as I know that laws were written in such a way that there are loopholes allowing for circumstances from both party’s to be able to prove innocent and guilty.
Hi, I am a Merchant Marine Officer, and have passed various first aid, life saving and firefighting courses.
As I was taught during training, if I don't assist when it is reasonable for me to do so, even on holiday, it could be held against me.
So I usually carry a Leatherman as a minimal intervention tool (cutting seatbelts or making tourniquet) - most of the time the Leatherman is in a first aid case in my backpack.
Would this be unlawful in the UK?
Edit: A non locking blade is dangerous as a tool, it could fold when I am using it and cause me to be an additional casualty.
So can an English Protestant carry a 'Blade' under article 7 of the Bill of Rights 1688/9 and religious grounds ?
I once asked a cop in Canada how big a knife one could carry around.
He stated that he doesn't care if your walking around with a sword. As long as it wasn't hidden.
It would be useful if you'd explain the revisions which now make it illegal to even have, in your own home, certain sharp or pointed items.
I might well do a followup video on just this!
Sir, please could you do a follow-on video specifically focussed on flipper knives? Locking vs non locking. Is the flipper tab on the blade considered to be a button or device used to flip the knife into the open position, making it an illegal to own flick knife? Are sub 3 inch non locking flippers legal to carry? (e.g. Boker Plus Wasabi) Are locking flipper still legal to own if you keep it at home? (e.g. Ganzo Firebird) This is a big debate at the moment in the knife collector community and no-one seems to know the answer. Some retailers like knivedandtools have put a blanket ban on sending any flipper knives from Holland to the UK. Very interested in your thoughts.
Good video. All these laws do not seem to be achieving a lot re Urban knife crime among young black and white males in London and other cities and towns. For law abiding folks even an Opinel would fail, as the blade does have a locking mechanism, for a working knife, locking is a practical facet. Swiss army knifes should be okay.
*If an action doesn’t create a victim, it is a natural right* . Regardless of what some people write down in their magic buildings with their magic pens and call ‘law’.
A lot of the time I carry a what was described on the listing as a “uk legal knife” that locks since I am from the countryside and carry it as a tool for work but also as a survival tool since if I was to get lost in the woods or something I could use it to survive would that be a good enough excuse to carry it ?
It’s honestly depressing that people have to ask these questions, knives are tools adults shouldn’t have to be so worried about carrying a tool for daily use because some little shits keep stabbing each other
If the blade locks, it's not "uk legal".
Swiss army style pocket knife with non-locking folding blade less than 3 inches is uk legal, a wetherman multi tool with locking blade less than 3 inches long, is not "uk legal"
@@thelogster Wrong .You can carry an 8 inch sheath knife if you have a legal reason to carry it .Bushcraft /Camping would be that reason or fishing etc
At 3:45 I have a wooden letter opener knife there is no metal so it classes as a stealth knife is it completely illegal to own?
My friend almost started a blacksmithing business as a high school dropout in the pandemic in a region of unemployment, however the laws regarding knives are too strict to comply with for that so he is on welfare now and will be until he can leave the country.
Hardly. He can carry anything he needs for his job.
@@Solaar_Punk on paper, not in practice.
As a sparky I carry an "electricians knife " while working .These knives are locking but also have a beaked blade not a pointed one.
Love the way you can carry a big knife for religious reasons it really does make you wonder what the world has come to
It's because religious people will fight tooth and nail for their religious beliefs but Brits will mumble ok if you say so when the government sets Draconian laws over them.
Would a multitool which was a locking one but modified to no longer lock then classed as a folding blade?
I carry a sghian dubh when I wear my kilt. It has a real blade. Funny story from a wedding in England where I was being ribbed for wearing a skirt until someone needed to open a nicotine patch. Out came the sghian dubh.
I have a Nice little Titanium Number that is Part of my Dive kit, fixes to my BCD, i have been all round the world with it, never been stopped
If I go out with a newly sharpened pencil, but don't have any paper on me, will be suspected of intent to stab someone with a pointed object or will I be suspected of intent to graffiti?
As a knife man from backwoods North America I can affirm that any knife that follows all of the UK restrictions would be absolutely USELESS in the woods!!!
Separating people from nature, so thay can be better maneged, like 🐑
Stunningly restrictive laws. Maybe they should have just made stabbing illegal instead? You know, punish people who are out to do harm, not the general population at large.
Don't be silly, that's far too sensible! Punish the act and not the item used? Balderdash!
I got his with a sliced wholemeal loaf that was straight out of the freezer once, it's a good job I wasn't seriously injured else there'd be a law against the illegal carry of a Hovis in a public place.
In my experience the old bill will try doing you for having a pair of nail clippers on your keys if they feel like it. When I go camping I take a UK legal Boker Plus, but if the situation ever arose despite it being a 3 inch slipjoint I would fully expect the police to take one look at it and sit me in the back of a police car, so I always make sure it's in my food bag with other cutlery, fork, spoon, spatula, condiments etc..
I have a UK legal boker plus and carry it everywhere, it’s completely legal so they can’t do anything. Not sure why you are scared to carry it.
@@aaronellson23 Good for you Aaron, sadly I live in a CR postcode and work in SW postcodes so maybe not. The Met will do whatever they please to bump their figures. Two weeks ago i was about to be arrested by one of the Met's finest, whilst reciting my Miranda rights I pointed out I had camera footage of the whole alleged incident and subsequent entire interaction with the officer, the blood drained from his face and he dropped the whole thing on the spot. So no I wouldn't take any chances with the Met because all they have to say is you were being threatening and you're screwed, unless of cause you have irrefutable video evidence like I did. Thanks for the comment though 👍🏼
@@AggyGoesOutdoors I see your point but we shouldn’t have to live like this.
@@aaronellson23 I agree with you 110% my friend, it may have a lot to do with regional demographics and statistics, I'm sure it's not the same everywhere, but sadly here it's best to tread lightly.
Daniel ShenSmith, I’m sure that you been inundated with questions but I would just like some clarification on this if you may. When the law interprets a bladed or sharply pointed article and more in regards to a lockable one, would I be correct if I presume a lockable saw would fall under that interpretation.
This is a very important question as 90% of wild campers outdoorsman/woman would have one in their possession when going out wild camping. Thank you
Yes in my view a lockable saw would be a bladed Article and not a folding lock knife because it has a blade and is not “immediately foldable at all times”. Therefore, the “good reason” would have to be explained. (More than a mere explanation)
Not being able too have a locking knife is ridiculous
Do these laws make the public any safer? I don't think so.
Overall, yes.
@@BlackBeltBarrister
How so? Because it seems that criminals don't regard the law, wherein knife crime is a huge problem now.
@@BlackBeltBarrister It seems that the more laws that are passed, the higher the crime rate connected to it. Both in Knife and Firearms crime. Do not think overall is correct.
@@TheRealColt Don't start me off on gun crime. 100+ new laws penalising the Law abiding person, complicated to the point that the Police do not really know the exact Law and has achieved what with regards to Gun crime ? Overall sweet FA. The MP's just want to be seen to be doing something for the general public. Rarely is it constructive.
I think there are a lot of things that contribute to crime rates so the laws are just one thing to help combat it but of course by itself, it won't prevent it.
Hi my partner, a mental health nurse, has been on maternity leave and her employer hasn't paid her a penny since paid leave came to an end in February. She handed 8 week return to work notice in at end of January, although it wasn't acknowledged or accepted at the time. She also has an unused holiday entitlement as part of her contract which has not been paid. Her employer refuses to speak to her in any respect and in fact has remained totally silent in response to any contact from the RCN, other employees and now a solicitor. Other contact from senior staff has informed her that if she is found to be searching for alternative or simultaneous employment, any entitlement to holiday pay and furlough pay will be void. One more problem is that the owner of the home took over relatively recently and has failed to make clear if existing contracts are still as is and whether current policy is as before. Another problem is that during my partner's maternity leave, her employer's care home was shut down by CQC for breaches of standards of care, and while other employees are on furlough (and themselves often getting paid late or not paid), there's no clear position as to my partner's status on maternity leave with regards to how she transitions from maternity leave back to work while technically there isn't labour to return to. Should she be on furlough by default? Does it require the employer's express instructions?
Please can you make a video with regards to the rights of employees on maternity leave, coming from maternity into furlough and these types of issues? What can be done about an employer that does not respond to any legal challenges and that does not respond in regards to queries about current company policy? Is it legal to withhold an employee's contractual entitlements if they search for any type of employment (my partner wanted to do agency work but still be contracted to her current employer)?
Sorry for bombing the comments with a totally unrelated thing but we would like some clarity because her employer is wilfully refusing to provide any. She does already have a solicitor involved but the situation is so complex and confusing and her employer's conduct is so disgraceful and unprofessional it would be nice to have a video on these types of issues to help break it all down. To top it all off the solicitor involved says that he already has ongoing and past cases with the same employer for these types of issues and that these cases were drawn out and the failure to respond is a common characteristic of each case. The fact this man is allowed to own or run care homes with this track record is an injustice!