Excellent review . I have noticed a huge improvement to the Lenovo P11 plus . The OLED display and the 120 hertz makes a difference. It’s definitely worth going fit the Lenovo P11 pro 2 gen which you have reviewed .
I decided to get Lenovo Flex 5i for the processor, keyboard, tablet mode,and $270 price. I'll definitely keep this tablet in mind though thanks for the review
On paper this tablet sounds amazing. Great screen, speakers, processor etc... Unfortunately, it is completely let down by Lenovo's horrid ZUI. It's been 4 weeks and I've experienced random app crashing, taskbar malfunctions and multitasking bugs. There are numerous threads about it on Lenovo's support page. I'll wait for one more update to see if they address any of these issues. In the meantime I'll be switching back to my $200 iPlay40.
@@GuantaiN yes. That means they have resale value years later. You pay more but you can get some of it back later. Impossible to sell an old android device with an OS that is years old
Hello and thanks for the review. Could you please let me know what is the refresh rate of the video output? lets say you've got a super high end monitor and you're connecting the p11 pro gen 2 to it, whats the maximum the tablet can offer via that secondary screen?
Been using mine since sept 2022. I have the SD870 CN ROM variant with 8gb of ram. No updates since sept and the real downside is the notifications. Delayed notifications even with turning off notification snoozing, putting the apps on unrestricted status and locking apps so that they dont close, still dont get notifications which is very annoying. It also doesn't have productivity mode which is also a bummer since i also bought the official keyboard, the freestyle app also doesn't work, been trying it since day 1 with no success. Just get an apple or samsung tablet IMO.
@@danielpillado2117 I got an update and they brought back productivity mode. Other than that its still the same. Gave mine to my daughter. Pre-ordered a tab s9 instead
This will get ZUI 15 with is a major improvement even to the stylus, the writing is much improved, it will rival Samsung, just wait until Christmas 😂 I know it hurts but you will get Android 13 and lots of bug fixes
Which is the stylus pen model compatible with Lenovo tab p11 pro gen 2. I know not all Pen precision 2 or 3 work / compatible as original. Thanks for the reply...
I'm buying this to be used with Steam Link and stream games anywhere in my house from my PC. Just a great screen that looks even better than my IPS monitor. High performance is not a priority.
I bought the Lenovo P11+ last year. Decent hardware but terrible OS. Android 13 update is truly awful & on top of that is bug-ridden. Updates are few & far between. Never again buying a Lenovo. I guess you get what you pay for. Back to Samsung for my next purchase.
Most of us have kept tablets for over five years, so the lack of software support on this and other Lenovo products makes it a deal-breaker and def, not a good buy. These days most tablets will do a great job, so the important stuff is now software, ecosystem and quality. I would say that Samsung and Apple are much better choices for those keeping for years.
Agreed 👍 what's the use of a great screen if all other areas have to suffer? I'd call that a scam I love Lenovo and if they get it together with updates I might give their future tablets a chance
I got one of this, thinking that it would be ideal for me because of price/specs, with special emphasis on the OLED display. But ended up returning it because of display quality. Do not know if all are the same or it was just mine but on low brightness the blacks where greyish, it had a sort of band at each short side end and the definition was bad. And when switching to EXTRA ATTENUATION (even less brightness) it got even worst. A pity because I was convinced that it was the right device for my needs. Now either will go cheap and get one iPad 9 if a deal around 300€ gets in sight or will splurge if a good deal on a Samsung TAB S8+ appears.
I just bought a P11 (not the pro version) and it has the same issue just 3 days in. Don't know if I will keep it - I can still return it. Like John, I thought this tablet would be the bomb as it looked good, felt good and set up easily. Performance on days one and two was excellent. Then on day three an update installed and that was when the screen dim thing happened.
@@ramspencer5492 I have commented this in other places and some people also have found the screen to be awful. Others find the screen to be great though. Maybe Lenovo are not that good at quality control and some bad screens pass undetected. Screen looked fine to me (not amazing) until I went to minimum brightness, then all the defects where at sight as brightness tends to mask them.
I did the same and returned it within 4 days. The specs are only good on paper. Bought a Samsung Tab S8 and love it. Although not an Oled screen it beats Lenovo in terms of picture quality and other features.
M11 has headphone jack but this doesnt? So i can have an M11 with worse screen, to watch netflix. Or i can get this with a good screen, and NOT watch netflix (headphone jack is ESSENTIAL). What is the point? They always end up ruining excellent products to save $2 in the construction process.
Really like your tablet reviews! Question. In one of your reviews (I think it was for the Samsung S9+) I noticed that you had Lightroom on it. In your opinion; what is the best tablet for Adobe creative cloud? I'm a graphic designer and looking for a "on the go" tablet with pen. Lenovo looks very great, but maybe Samsung is better? Thanks in advance!
Only if Lenovo promised atleast 2 to 3 software updates. The Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 Plus is a much better deal with AMOLED display for 5K Rupees more in India
Nice video, as always. But I want to make a small remark. Testing the battery of a tablet by playing a video is not very correct and it's actually a test of the AMOLED screen and confirmation of its greater energy efficiency compared to an IPS display. Therefore, in your top tablets with the best battery life there are tablets with AMOLED screens. But if you test it with mixed use, close to the real scenario, then this tablet holds a charge very poorly. I would even say it's pretty awful. I don't know if this can be fixed with a patch. Or maybe it's already been fixed, but I doubt it (In Chinese social networks, at the beginning of sales, they noted terrible autonomy, comparable to a regular smartphone). And if you take the fact that for many users white is the most frequently displayed color on the screen when using a tablet (usually reading, social networks, web surfing, sometimes typing and drawing), then this tablet will live very badly. Amoled screens consume a lot of battery when displaying white color (and if you turn on the dark theme during the day in lighting conditions, your eyes start to hurt, so for me personally it's not good). For example, Xiaomi pad in this scenario works for more than 12 hours, and this Lenovo - only about 8 or even less. And in general, tablets with an IPS display works longer. I saw a lot of testing and came to the conclusion: Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 (IPS 11') and Xiaomi Pad 5 (IPS 11') (mine, I charge it once in 3 days) are the best android tablets in terms of battery life. Well, Maybe Redmi Pad is great too.
A fair point but it must be also highlighted that the P11 PRO GEN 2 has more pixels per inch (higher resolution) and a 120hz refresh rate and a huge 360hz touch sampling rate. There are no tablets with an IPS LCD display that come close to these specs. So it's normal to draw more consumption, though if you set it to 60hz I think it will improve massively.
This issues will be fixed in Android 14, you will get much better battery life, knowing Lenovo you will get the update at the end of 2024 probably around Christmas. The update will come in ZUI 16
I'm curious if it will cast well to a Samsung TV. If it can, it's probably the tablet for me, as oppressed to a more expensive, higher performing, Samsung.
Hello, very nice presentation, it helped me to better know this tablet which seems very interesting to me. I have a question. During the video at the beginning you show the two tablets side by side and on the one on the left of the screen (I think it's the P11 Pro Gen 1) we see that you have a notification on the settings icon (settings wheels) and we sees a number in it as a notification badge while Lenovo tablets have the notification dot and the feature to choose counter or dot is not available like on Samsung, it's only the dot on or off. So how were you able to get a notification counter badge? I assume it was a third-party application that allowed you this modification? If yes, I would like to know it and is it reliable and safe?
@@aspfan9067 Really? I’ve read other people saying it looks really fuzzy the dimmer you make it. Oh well I guess the there is no real alternative to Samsung Tablets when it comes to oled screens but the price is still too high for those to be considered for light use. At that price I expect them to have a full blown os and only windows tablet with an oled screen is the slow vivobook slate and that one only comes in 13 inches which is too big for a tablet.
Excellent review . I have noticed a huge improvement to the Lenovo P11 plus . The OLED display and the 120 hertz makes a difference. It’s definitely worth going fit the Lenovo P11 pro 2 gen which you have reviewed .
I decided to get Lenovo Flex 5i for the processor, keyboard, tablet mode,and $270 price. I'll definitely keep this tablet in mind though thanks for the review
120Hz display makes a major difference when writing.
I have both and G2 has better display
Android T fixed missing "clear all" button on notification.
I think Lenovo tabs always do a better job than Samsung and Apple for the cost they take. Even this one has a really good Mediatek chip and battery.
On paper this tablet sounds amazing. Great screen, speakers, processor etc... Unfortunately, it is completely let down by Lenovo's horrid ZUI. It's been 4 weeks and I've experienced random app crashing, taskbar malfunctions and multitasking bugs. There are numerous threads about it on Lenovo's support page. I'll wait for one more update to see if they address any of these issues. In the meantime I'll be switching back to my $200 iPlay40.
sorry to bother u i would like to know how is everything now with the lenvo tab??
Same question! Has the Tab P11 pro Gen2 improved after the last update?
Has it improved?
@psl6 improved?
Looks good, but I still think Samsung is the better option with their 4/5 years of updates. I've not had a very good experience with Lenovo updates.
That's what puts me off about Android stuff generally (though I do have an android phone) - the lack of updates
@@merrymonarch I know... Apple updates there devices forever.
@@GuantaiN yes. That means they have resale value years later. You pay more but you can get some of it back later. Impossible to sell an old android device with an OS that is years old
I'm the same. Latest Android update on my Lenovo tablet has been truly awful. Back to Samsung for me, too.
@@merrymonarch I know... 5 year old iPhones still hold nearly half their value. I think Samsung is working towards the same.
i bought this tablet with 8gb ram, 256 gb storage and a precision 3 pen for 240 us in Thailand. It is an absolute bargain and I love it.
That’s a great price.
@@sabrinamerrick1271 Im still in love with it, if you see it at a bargain price, snap it up - its fabulous
is it worth the upgrade from a P11 Plus? thanks!
Would have like to see comparison with the Duet 3. I think I still prefer Chrome OS over Android.
Hello and thanks for the review. Could you please let me know what is the refresh rate of the video output? lets say you've got a super high end monitor and you're connecting the p11 pro gen 2 to it, whats the maximum the tablet can offer via that secondary screen?
Been using mine since sept 2022. I have the SD870 CN ROM variant with 8gb of ram. No updates since sept and the real downside is the notifications. Delayed notifications even with turning off notification snoozing, putting the apps on unrestricted status and locking apps so that they dont close, still dont get notifications which is very annoying. It also doesn't have productivity mode which is also a bummer since i also bought the official keyboard, the freestyle app also doesn't work, been trying it since day 1 with no success. Just get an apple or samsung tablet IMO.
update on this, lenovo freestyle still not working
@@serge0251really bro I have bought it right now Por 240 euros in Spain, should I return it on the shop???. Sorry for the English
@@danielpillado2117 I got an update and they brought back productivity mode. Other than that its still the same. Gave mine to my daughter. Pre-ordered a tab s9 instead
This will get ZUI 15 with is a major improvement even to the stylus, the writing is much improved, it will rival Samsung, just wait until Christmas 😂 I know it hurts but you will get Android 13 and lots of bug fixes
@@FinanceBB yeah, but no thanks, already got a tab s9 last august, pricey yes but so worth it, sold my lenovo tab to my brother for cheap
Which is the stylus pen model compatible with Lenovo tab p11 pro gen 2. I know not all Pen precision 2 or 3 work / compatible as original. Thanks for the reply...
The Lenovo Precision Pen 3 works. The others don't.
Is it normal, that when tilting the screen it gets slightly greenish on white background?
Thank you for your review.
Yes slight color casts are common on all screens. When I put lots of tablets next to each other, all whites look a bit different.
I'm buying this to be used with Steam Link and stream games anywhere in my house from my PC. Just a great screen that looks even better than my IPS monitor. High performance is not a priority.
Hi, would you recommend this tablet for a student looking to buy one for writing and note taking?(at this price range)
Thanks
Same reasons I am here, did you get it? I can't deicde lol the comments are scaring me away lmao.
Idk in wich planet the tab s8 costs 550 my guy
Thank u for the splendid video.
I bought the Lenovo P11+ last year. Decent hardware but terrible OS. Android 13 update is truly awful & on top of that is bug-ridden. Updates are few & far between. Never again buying a Lenovo. I guess you get what you pay for. Back to Samsung for my next purchase.
Any OS updates?
which case was that??
Does it do handwriting to text?
How many OS upgrades and years of security updates does it have? Samsung's tablets have 4 OS upgrades and 5 years of security updates...
Samsung just recently updated to 3 operating system update and 4 years of security updates. This one is a year less than that.
Most of us have kept tablets for over five years, so the lack of software support on this and other Lenovo products makes it a deal-breaker and def, not a good buy. These days most tablets will do a great job, so the important stuff is now software, ecosystem and quality. I would say that Samsung and Apple are much better choices for those keeping for years.
Agreed 👍 what's the use of a great screen if all other areas have to suffer? I'd call that a scam I love Lenovo and if they get it together with updates I might give their future tablets a chance
I got one of this, thinking that it would be ideal for me because of price/specs, with special emphasis on the OLED display. But ended up returning it because of display quality. Do not know if all are the same or it was just mine but on low brightness the blacks where greyish, it had a sort of band at each short side end and the definition was bad. And when switching to EXTRA ATTENUATION (even less brightness) it got even worst. A pity because I was convinced that it was the right device for my needs.
Now either will go cheap and get one iPad 9 if a deal around 300€ gets in sight or will splurge if a good deal on a Samsung TAB S8+ appears.
Just yours.....or maybe an early software bug? We got three for Christmas. All very high quality screens with great blacks, contrast and colors.
I just bought a P11 (not the pro version) and it has the same issue just 3 days in. Don't know if I will keep it - I can still return it. Like John, I thought this tablet would be the bomb as it looked good, felt good and set up easily. Performance on days one and two was excellent. Then on day three an update installed and that was when the screen dim thing happened.
@@ramspencer5492 I have commented this in other places and some people also have found the screen to be awful. Others find the screen to be great though. Maybe Lenovo are not that good at quality control and some bad screens pass undetected. Screen looked fine to me (not amazing) until I went to minimum brightness, then all the defects where at sight as brightness tends to mask them.
I did the same and returned it within 4 days. The specs are only good on paper. Bought a Samsung Tab S8 and love it. Although not an Oled screen it beats Lenovo in terms of picture quality and other features.
The snapdragon version has a true oled screen with 10 bit color, get that one
Does it support aptx adaptive like the p12 Pro?
No. Aptx adaptive are only for snapdragon devices like p12 pro
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Great tablet, nice specs, but Lenovo should really invest well in marketing
M11 has headphone jack but this doesnt?
So i can have an M11 with worse screen, to watch netflix.
Or i can get this with a good screen, and NOT watch netflix (headphone jack is ESSENTIAL).
What is the point? They always end up ruining excellent products to save $2 in the construction process.
Really like your tablet reviews! Question. In one of your reviews (I think it was for the Samsung S9+) I noticed that you had Lightroom on it. In your opinion; what is the best tablet for Adobe creative cloud? I'm a graphic designer and looking for a "on the go" tablet with pen. Lenovo looks very great, but maybe Samsung is better? Thanks in advance!
the description of this tablet says 420 nits max so 600 is far from that
I love this guy, kindly review the Realme Pad X?
Only if Lenovo promised atleast 2 to 3 software updates. The Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 Plus is a much better deal with AMOLED display for 5K Rupees more in India
This one is promised to get 2 software update to Android 14 and 3 years security update
Nice video, as always. But I want to make a small remark.
Testing the battery of a tablet by playing a video is not very correct and it's actually a test of the AMOLED screen and confirmation of its greater energy efficiency compared to an IPS display. Therefore, in your top tablets with the best battery life there are tablets with AMOLED screens.
But if you test it with mixed use, close to the real scenario, then this tablet holds a charge very poorly. I would even say it's pretty awful. I don't know if this can be fixed with a patch. Or maybe it's already been fixed, but I doubt it (In Chinese social networks, at the beginning of sales, they noted terrible autonomy, comparable to a regular smartphone).
And if you take the fact that for many users white is the most frequently displayed color on the screen when using a tablet (usually reading, social networks, web surfing, sometimes typing and drawing), then this tablet will live very badly. Amoled screens consume a lot of battery when displaying white color (and if you turn on the dark theme during the day in lighting conditions, your eyes start to hurt, so for me personally it's not good).
For example, Xiaomi pad in this scenario works for more than 12 hours, and this Lenovo - only about 8 or even less. And in general, tablets with an IPS display works longer. I saw a lot of testing and came to the conclusion: Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 (IPS 11') and Xiaomi Pad 5 (IPS 11') (mine, I charge it once in 3 days) are the best android tablets in terms of battery life. Well, Maybe Redmi Pad is great too.
A fair point but it must be also highlighted that the P11 PRO GEN 2 has more pixels per inch (higher resolution) and a 120hz refresh rate and a huge 360hz touch sampling rate. There are no tablets with an IPS LCD display that come close to these specs. So it's normal to draw more consumption, though if you set it to 60hz I think it will improve massively.
Good point but you need objective data to prove your point.
This issues will be fixed in Android 14, you will get much better battery life, knowing Lenovo you will get the update at the end of 2024 probably around Christmas. The update will come in ZUI 16
I'm curious if it will cast well to a Samsung TV. If it can, it's probably the tablet for me, as oppressed to a more expensive, higher performing, Samsung.
Hello, very nice presentation, it helped me to better know this tablet which seems very interesting to me.
I have a question. During the video at the beginning you show the two tablets side by side and on the one on the left of the screen (I think it's the P11 Pro Gen 1) we see that you have a notification on the settings icon (settings wheels) and we sees a number in it as a notification badge while Lenovo tablets have the notification dot and the feature to choose counter or dot is not available like on Samsung, it's only the dot on or off. So how were you able to get a notification counter badge?
I assume it was a third-party application that allowed you this modification? If yes, I would like to know it and is it reliable and safe?
I didn't install any third party application that would add this feature, so it's the stock Lenovo software.
@@MyNextTablet thank you. Have a good day.
@@MyNextTablet Excellent helpful review! Can you please tell me the model # of the monitor @9:14. Thanks
Unfortunately disappointed with pentile display=\
That was the previous version…
@@Protestan88 Nop, this one has the fuzziness as well.
@@aspfan9067 Really? I’ve read other people saying it looks really fuzzy the dimmer you make it. Oh well I guess the there is no real alternative to Samsung Tablets when it comes to oled screens but the price is still too high for those to be considered for light use. At that price I expect them to have a full blown os and only windows tablet with an oled screen is the slow vivobook slate and that one only comes in 13 inches which is too big for a tablet.
Prices are 500 euro's now in august 2023,.. !!! In th enetherlands,..
Looks nice. Wish there was an 8" 4:3 aspect ratio variant of this device.
Not sure but you can search for lenovo y700 tablet.
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