@@ragewayz900 Well it never seemed like a good win-now move in the first place, at least to me. How could you want a guy after watching him pull that just to get traded? Major red flags before he even got traded.
He needs healing, maybe he can to therapy with will smith. F that man. I wish him and his mental health the best but you know what? He is done in the NBA. There is no coming back from this. And I dont think he wants to. He'd rather do his own fashion show on the bench and collect a big check every month.
@@dhafiansuhartono8668 i think we trade cam and sharpe and the picks if needed for Turner or just swap CAM and Clax for Turner and Duarte, Clax cant be on the floor with Ben10.
Miles Turner is the best option for this team. Put Simmons at the point forward and the Nets would have three 6’11 players in their front court who can all defend
Just discovered you. Really like how you break the business side of the NBA down (because otherwise I'm clueless) and you got me hooked with the "heres the next video you should watch" thing at the end. Very smart.
@@pjusino5 it's PSYCHOsomatif if anything. But why is collecting checks from the Nets then. He hasnt been playing forever at this point and he wont be. He needs to grow some balls and do the thing a man needs to do. Face reality and just retire. Or at least get some insurance company to pay the rest of your contract and f off. Nets believed him and they got effed by him. He knew he wasnt coming back.
Do you know how easy it would have been for him to have avoided all this nonsense? Play the damn game. I'm not even talking about last season. Rookie year, 218 shot attempts between 10 feet and the three-point line in 81 games. That's less than three a game, but he's a rookie. Season _FOUR,_ 44 shot attempts from the same distance in 58 games. That's double-digit games where he made NO midrange shot attempts. Every offseason, what's the goal? Be better next season. That is, unless you're Ben Simpletons. You cannot be a ball-dominant, 6'10" PG in the NBA who won't shoot. Not "can't shoot." Not "don't shoot." WON'T. SHOOT. The mental stress only surfaced when he realized he wasn't getting paid.
@@maxmeier532 I think it depends on if you think mental problem should be treated same as physical problems. If someone broke their leg and can’t play, they can still collect check. Should someone still be able to collect check if they go through depression and no longer play? I don’t really know the answer
Claxton is the future of this team. They need to let Drummond walk, and keep Claxton. Claxton can block shots, and with some development, can become a great defensive player. Claxton is also better at rebounding than Drummond idc what y’all say. Drummond just ball watches and is lazy on Blocks, and Rebounds nowadays. Claxton is young, has potential, and can defend the rim. Edit: Y’all do realize Claxton can improve on Free Throws right? Not everyone is Ben Simmons you know.
Bro y’all need to get a big that can play with Ben. Claxton can not share the same floor at the same time with him. Myles turner a much better rim protecting/ shooter.
I think signing Kyrie and trading him later for less would be the best option. I mean the owner is super rich and at this point just wants to win so if they get back less for Kyrie I think he won't mind too much
@@BruceWaynesFactory I get that since it would make their defense better but dlo won't make the offense easier for kd. Kd was struggling against the celtics
Funny enough, Tom Thibodeau I feel would’ve been the perfect coach for Brooklyn: hard-nosed, defensive-oriented, and an ego-manager but still cares for players on a personal level. The Nets may have to Oceans 11 MSG to snag him 😂
Kyrie is unpredictable, you just can´t build around him. He is an exceptional player but he is the one creating the major distractions with his free humanity speech
@@martymcflywilliams9050 Trae and Rudy can become the greatest duo in the current nba. Kawhi is not coming to Atlanta and Donovan Mitchell is going to nyc or la
Think this all shows how important the regular season is when it gets to the playoffs. Everyone thought the Nets could still beat the Celtics with all their star power but ultimately it was too difficult a match up for them. Had Kyrie not missed so much of the regular season, we'd probably be looking at the Nets in the 3rd or 4th seed which would likely have altered their fortunes, at least in the first round.
You know, the Nets had one of the most promising young cores back when they went to the playoffs before KD and Kyrie came. They have literally jettisoned all of that save Joe Harris for this super team that has done nothing. And now Russell is a major piece of a resurgent Timberwolves team, Dinwiddie has elevated Dallas, Allen is a cornerstone and All Star in Cleveland. LeVert played well in Indiana and if he can get back to form for Cleveland, he could be a really good piece there. If the KD and Kyrie era doesn't bring a chip, it could go down as one of the worst super team misadventures ever. Also, Irving has less leverage than you think. Unless he wants to play for a trash team, none of the good teams have cap space to sign him for more than his player option. So unless he's willing to take less money in a worse location or play for a worse team out of pure *spite*, he's not going anywhere.
Hey A.M, Hoops, great video as always. But I took some offense on the time where you started talking about Ben Simmons' back problems. My mom has a similar disease and has had it for a couple (6) years now, and more stress causes back problems. I'm no doctor and I really didn't understand it until it put her in the hospital. Twice. It starts in the disc of the back and she had no disk as it had disappeared all of a sudden. So really, I understand you probably aren't a doctor and are a UA-camr with basketball knowledge and I don't expect you to get this, or anyone else for that matter. All I am saying is that this is real and things like running errands, getting ready for work, being at work, cooking, all of that affected her brain as stress, then went down to her spine. Please don't make any fun of it, as it can be hurtful to some people. It is not like sneezing and throwing out your back, I just don't think you understand the situation properly. Thanks for reading this A.M. Hoops (I hope you do and everyone who comes to the comment section), and I hope you don't take any offense. Still a great video man, keep up the good work!!
Blake, Drummond, and Aldridge is for sure gone. Patti Mills will be interesting if he stays. I would keep Dragic and be excited to have Joe Harris back and see what Simmons brings. Have two impactful players not on the floor during the playoffs hurt. Not saying it is the answer, but it could be an entirely different team with one more shooter and a defensive presence. If the nets could get Grant from Detroit and add Ben that would be some defense that could go well with the offense of Kyrie and Durrant.
Not a fan of any of these teams, but I thought of this trade after the Hawks got booted, let me know what you think: Hawks get: J Grant, C Joseph, T Rozier, K Oubre, PJ Washington, Hornets 22 1st pick Pistons get: D Gallinari, J Johnson, Pelicans 22 1st pick (via Hornets) Hornets get: J Collins, K Huerter, Hawks 22 1st pick, Hornets 23 1st (via Hawks) For the Hawks, they are totally restructuring this team for a better fit around Trae. They are mainly doing this to bring in a better defensive 4 in Grant, a secondary ball handler in Rozier. They also get serviceable role players and move up in the draft. For the Pistons, they are getting rid of 2 expiring contracts for a young player, salary filler and a first For the Hornets, they are also restructuring this team for better fit. They are getting rid of Rozier and 2 expiring contracts to finally get a young center they like in Collins and another young player with 4 years left on his contract who fits well with Lamelo. They also get an additional first. I especially like the Hawks and Hornets rosters after this trade. If anyone says no I think it would be the Hornets, but I think if they cant find a trade for a star, this is a pretty good route.
I never agree with SAS but he's got a point, you can't trust Kyrie to ever play a full season whether it be bc of injury or personal reasons and he hasn't shown up in the post season since leaving LeBron
Off course psychosomatic issues are a thing! It's just very interesting that they pop up exactly in difficult situations when it's about trades and contracts and muuuch money 😁😎
Mental stress can fk up one's back/neck, at least in conjunction with poor posture and poor diet. In 1998, I had a herniated disc in my neck (head banging as a teenager injury 1988 seriously), and went through a very stressful time I handled horribly. My neck and upper back muscles tightened so much that I lost all feeling in my left arm and most of my right for several months. Insurance sucked and doctors couldn't fix me. Bankrupted me. Went to a chiropractor, who fixed me instantly, unfortunately at the cost of horrible neck pain ever since. So, partially paralyzed with no pain or mobility at the cost of pain. Ever since has been a journey of taking better care of myself. Tmi....sorry...just saying I know it's possible. If I was rich it wouldn't have been as big a problem, so my empathy is about nil for Simmons
Dude Kyrie nearly every season misses major time and that almost always contributes to playoff disappointments. Steven A has a point why would I pay a 4-5 year Supermax for a guy that plays half the time given his history. I’m no closer to a title with kyries unreliability if I’m the nets.
Honestly though kyrie needs a Rudy gobert situation. Go be crazy in the middle of nowhere where nobody in their right mind wants to play, be the star of the team play all the games and be a barely first rd and out playoff team every year and that’s the only way we’ll ever hear of this man just playing ball being happy and stop diving head first into any drama he can sniff out
The Nets are suffering from the Atlantic Yards CBA curse. They built the arena and the nearby housing with community support and signed a Community Benefits Agreement (CBA) in 2005. After they got the arena, they ditched the community and sparked gentrification. The people who fought for the arena got pushed out of the community. I told Nets fans at the beginning of the season that I do not think they will ever win a championship there because of what they did to that community.
as bad as westbrook was thought to be this year, at least the guy is always available. I wouldn't give Kyrie anything. Let him go, set a new precedent for handling these types of players.
I stopped making predictions on Kyrie Irving. Cause this dude can't be calculated. If you think it's unrealistic and there's a 0.1% chance of happening then Kyrie will find a way. I wouldn't be surprised if Kyrie pulls a Darren Collison and decides to retire tomorrow because he wants to become an Imam. Cause thats just that kind of guy Kyrie is! So for me there's no realistic or unrealistic when it comes to number 11
you are wrong in one point though. Kyrie is very predictable in terms of collecting a big check. All that nonsense, Bball isnt everthing, anti-vaxx, sage burning, walking to the arena with a damn stick....but he still wants that 45 mill a year. He wants to wander the world like Jules? Go ahead, stop playing games.
the Nets starting 5 next season can look like Ben Simmons Kyrie Irving Joe Harris Kevin Durant and then like you said Casey I agree they definitely need a Big Man/Center. Out of the Nets FA's in my opinion Kyrie and Patty Mills will both pick up their (PO's), and then they re-sign Bruce Brown Jr., Nic Claxton, and Drummond if the Nets can't get a real Center. Aldridge, Blake, and Dragic I think Brooklyn should let walk in FA, I know Dragic had a decent season but they already have Patty Mills. This was a solid video Casey!!!
Why isn't the player option realistic? The Nets would just say "you can take the option or leave in free agency" Teams aren't going to line up to offer him long term big money deals. Even if they do is Kyrie going to like Sacramento, Orlando, or Indiana? Brooklyn is his ideal situation. I don't think he'd give it up at the end of the day.
Keep Nash, and trade everybody else. Get young players who are putting good numbers as role players or are coming of the bench. Im sure they will work hard to prove they can be starters. Build a team with young players who can work together.
@A.M. Hoops, your point about the Nets being over the Cap is key! I would say let him walk otherwise ... nobody else can pay him as much as the Nets and seeing the circus that always accompanies him, nobody is likely to WANT to pay him as much or for as long. But, letting him walk doesn't give the Nets ANY flexibility to sign someone else! I'd only given him the 4 year deal and look for the FIRST chance to trade him for a Snickers Bar and some gum balls!
Watching this for the first time and it's like the nets were listening to this channel. KD demanded a trade and the nets fired Nash .Only kyrie is so unpredictable and opt in on his player option
Quinn Snyder would be at Duke before he coaches the Nets. Brooklyn is a mess and is a lottery team after Kyrie and KD are gone within three weeks. Utah is at least stable.
KD will demand a trade and will go to the Lakers to join Lebron, to try to win another chip. Kyrie and Simmons will not be traded since no team would want them and I do agree with you on Nash being fired.
I really don't think Steve Nash is to blame. What can he do with the egos on that team? I don't think any of the coaches you named will be able to manage Kyrie or Simmons. Some of the leagues best coaches (including LeBron) have worked with both those guys and no one has done it. Nash was set up to lose, but it would honestly be the merciful thing to fire him and let him get a real HC job somewhere else. Maybe he'd take over for Quinn Snyder
4 year 80 million is the most i would give him .. or let him opt in, and let him leave next year, and trade KD for picks to do rebuild. If he doesn't like it, he can leave this season. Another, really crazy option, and the trade machine says the money works, is trading for AD and Lebron with everything that Brooklyn has (without Kyrie, KD and the veteran minimum guys). Lakers would get 3 picks, and they could then trade Curry, Mills, Brown and Harris for additional pick each, get the 3 rookies that Brooklyn has (Thomas, Sharpe and Edwards), Simmons and Claxton. So 7 picks, 3 rookies with some potential, Ben Simmons and Claxton for AD and Lebron. That's not bad
The Nets are probably not going to do it but I think they should rebuild. Their window is closing with this roster. KD is not getting any younger and already had a major injury and Kyrie is Kyrie. I don't see them winning any title or even getting to the finals in the future. There were a lot of red flags with their plan of signing KD And Kyrie and also lost all of their depth with the Harden trade.
They could trade Kyrie, Seth, Simmons and KD for picks. Because they don't have anything left to rebuild right now. They gave up their future for Harden
After 2 months, we learned Kyrie himself had no leverage, bc other organizations (except LAL) wasn't eager to get all of his nonsense. the relation with KD was his only leverage. 4:47 BKN had choice 4:00 Kyrie opt in.
There can be clauses in contracts. Give him his max but if he doesn’t do something necessary required to even enter the building he he not only doesn’t get paid, he also gets fined. He owes the nets money at this point.
I’m completely fine signing Kyrie and I honestly think he would take a slightly lesser contract because he feels like he let the team down this season. They can keep all 3 stars but they need to fill out the rest of the roster better. They need a culture changer (a locker room guy/leader). Blake is a fan favorite so keep him. Keep Bruce & Claxton. We need to get players with size that can pass shoot and dribble. The clippers wings and Myles Turner would be nice
I agree with this, I think the Nets FO should make sure they can get back some on Kyrie's contract. I would say they can put in some incentive in the contract for him to play more but Kyrie clearly showed that he doesn't care about money. Keeping Blake and making him the "Haslem of the Nets" sounds like a fun idea but there has been talks that Blake wasn't happy with falling out the rotation so there is a chance he may go to somewhere that offers him a bigger role (idk where would that be unless the Lakers want to repeat their season record)
@@reaper_is_unavailable tbh i know a lot of nets fans complain about Kyrie & playing games, but if you really think about it I don’t think any of us really want him to play more than 60-65 games lol
I think their best option is think long term. Don't extend kyrie, he is not a player that is reliable either injury or his mindset. Work with Ben try to get him back on the floor next year. Trade him for good role players especially at centre position and wing players. Next off season find a super start that can help kd. That's it. You can t solve this mess with few role player.
That is a nice choice but the only problem is that Washington wouldn't pick up on it. Kyrie said that if he got traded he wouldn't play and at this if there is anything we can trust from Kyrie now is that he sticks to his word, so the threat of unavailability would be too much for Washington to risk.
well, rightfully so. they had a real big3 didnt they. it just wasnt meant to be, the moving parts couldnt be moved to work with each other. but on paper it seemed like a no-brainer.
Griffin should play games in the park with friends, not be in the NBA. There is no shame in that. He was a no1 draft pick like what, 10 years ago? for whatever reason, he hit his ceiling years ago and declined quickly. He could be a Lebron in terms of his body size but he isnt at all.
Nets really traded away so much quality depth to get James harden to trade him for Ben Simmons
This shows us that the win now moves aren't always as good as they seem
@@ragewayz900 Well it never seemed like a good win-now move in the first place, at least to me. How could you want a guy after watching him pull that just to get traded? Major red flags before he even got traded.
They have depth the coach just didnt use it
In other words they lost a lot to acquire Curry and Drummond
The gave away
Dinwidie
Green
Levert
Jarret allen
For ben simmons
Look, I think Ben will return next year
It’ll be a tough competition, but he’ll win rookie of the year.
😭😭😭😭 ben deserve this i’m his fan i’m also disappointed
He needs healing, maybe he can to therapy with will smith. F that man. I wish him and his mental health the best but you know what? He is done in the NBA. There is no coming back from this. And I dont think he wants to. He'd rather do his own fashion show on the bench and collect a big check every month.
That's sum funny shit.
And he will rest because hurt something
Ben Vs Zion for Dookie of the year
They also need a center who WON’T miss 10 free throws in a row
We needed Aldridge
@@skywastaken7300 bruh nets is already shit on defense, you wanna put aldridge in??
@@dhafiansuhartono8668 i think we trade cam and sharpe and the picks if needed for Turner or just swap CAM and Clax for Turner and Duarte, Clax cant be on the floor with Ben10.
@@youngsa942 yup I think Turner is a solid option for centre
Miles Turner is the best option for this team. Put Simmons at the point forward and the Nets would have three 6’11 players in their front court who can all defend
Just discovered you. Really like how you break the business side of the NBA down (because otherwise I'm clueless) and you got me hooked with the "heres the next video you should watch" thing at the end. Very smart.
Not backing up Ben, But mental stress can hundred percent cause physical pain. It’s well documented at this point medically
Right, is call Somatic Symptom.
@@pjusino5 it's PSYCHOsomatif if anything. But why is collecting checks from the Nets then. He hasnt been playing forever at this point and he wont be. He needs to grow some balls and do the thing a man needs to do. Face reality and just retire. Or at least get some insurance company to pay the rest of your contract and f off. Nets believed him and they got effed by him. He knew he wasnt coming back.
Do you know how easy it would have been for him to have avoided all this nonsense? Play the damn game. I'm not even talking about last season. Rookie year, 218 shot attempts between 10 feet and the three-point line in 81 games. That's less than three a game, but he's a rookie. Season _FOUR,_ 44 shot attempts from the same distance in 58 games. That's double-digit games where he made NO midrange shot attempts. Every offseason, what's the goal? Be better next season. That is, unless you're Ben Simpletons. You cannot be a ball-dominant, 6'10" PG in the NBA who won't shoot. Not "can't shoot." Not "don't shoot." WON'T. SHOOT. The mental stress only surfaced when he realized he wasn't getting paid.
@@maxmeier532 I think it depends on if you think mental problem should be treated same as physical problems.
If someone broke their leg and can’t play, they can still collect check. Should someone still be able to collect check if they go through depression and no longer play? I don’t really know the answer
it is, but Nets need to BOTH give Simmons the help he needs AND try to cut his pay off and not feed to Ben's ego as this only worsens Ben's situation
Claxton is the future of this team. They need to let Drummond walk, and keep Claxton. Claxton can block shots, and with some development, can become a great defensive player.
Claxton is also better at rebounding than Drummond idc what y’all say. Drummond just ball watches and is lazy on Blocks, and Rebounds nowadays. Claxton is young, has potential, and can defend the rim.
Edit: Y’all do realize Claxton can improve on Free Throws right? Not everyone is Ben Simmons you know.
I totally agree!
As a nets fan, yes
Bro y’all need to get a big that can play with Ben. Claxton can not share the same floor at the same time with him. Myles turner a much better rim protecting/ shooter.
Man shot 1-11 from the free throw line he definitely not the future 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@tevinseven6059 lol imagine a playoff game with nick and Ben in there lol.
KD is the only one that's reliable and worth keeping. Can't wait for the world to see how much of a fruad Simmons is
Honestly at this point Nets should rebuild
@@levisupremacy227 Lol how? No one will trade for Kyrie or Ben
@@ahankumar2936 I mean KD
Noo
@@ahankumar2936 there trash there unreliable
I think signing Kyrie and trading him later for less would be the best option.
I mean the owner is super rich and at this point just wants to win so if they get back less for Kyrie I think he won't mind too much
Wolves trade dlo , Pat bev and pick for kyrie
@@BruceWaynesFactory I get that since it would make their defense better but dlo won't make the offense easier for kd. Kd was struggling against the celtics
Kyrie can play full season now. I don't know why you'd want to trade Kyrie of all people. I'd trade some of the lesser players
@@Gotothelui 'Cause his decisions are dragging the team down too much.
Last season he had multiple games he was absent without the team's approval.
Kyrie for Donovan Mitchell?
Funny enough, Tom Thibodeau I feel would’ve been the perfect coach for Brooklyn: hard-nosed, defensive-oriented, and an ego-manager but still cares for players on a personal level. The Nets may have to Oceans 11 MSG to snag him 😂
Thibs would run KD, Kyrie, and Ben into the ground. 3 injury-prone players playing 44 minutes a night is not good for them
@@russellpo7758 KD and Kyrie are already playing over 40 mins a night on the regular under Nash. They’d probably get less minutes under Thibs tbh 😂
I'm ok with this. 😂
Please lord
Just like he did to the bulls
They should've kept Jarrett Allen when he was starting to blossom as a young guy. They could use that rim protection right about now.
I’m a big kd fan so I support him no matter what happens
I hate the kd slander
Kyrie is unpredictable, you just can´t build around him. He is an exceptional player but he is the one creating the major distractions with his free humanity speech
The problem with Kyrie he thinks he's a Scientist that going to save the World..
when his occupation is actually a Professional Basketball Player
@@tornadotornado7250 exactly
@@tornadotornado7250 how does he think he’s a scientist?
@@joematan6117 flat earther and anti vaxxer
Might be forgetting something else but im nit really a kyrie fan
Nahhhhh, he's not a b!+ch bending over for the clot shot. You guys are the distraction
Can you do Hawks off-season plan
YES
Trade capela, roll player and 2 first for Rudy gobert. Atlanta will win the 2023 nba championship if they do that
Rudy gobert will not be a good fit for Atlanta, we need Donavan Mitchell or Kawhi but those are most unlikely
@@martymcflywilliams9050 Trae and Rudy can become the greatest duo in the current nba. Kawhi is not coming to Atlanta and Donovan Mitchell is going to nyc or la
Coming tomorrow
Keep the content up!!! You're hands down the best analyst on UA-cam. Thank you
Steve Nash is a perfect coach for them, because remember when they said they dont need a coach.
Think this all shows how important the regular season is when it gets to the playoffs. Everyone thought the Nets could still beat the Celtics with all their star power but ultimately it was too difficult a match up for them. Had Kyrie not missed so much of the regular season, we'd probably be looking at the Nets in the 3rd or 4th seed which would likely have altered their fortunes, at least in the first round.
You know, the Nets had one of the most promising young cores back when they went to the playoffs before KD and Kyrie came.
They have literally jettisoned all of that save Joe Harris for this super team that has done nothing. And now Russell is a major piece of a resurgent Timberwolves team, Dinwiddie has elevated Dallas, Allen is a cornerstone and All Star in Cleveland. LeVert played well in Indiana and if he can get back to form for Cleveland, he could be a really good piece there.
If the KD and Kyrie era doesn't bring a chip, it could go down as one of the worst super team misadventures ever.
Also, Irving has less leverage than you think. Unless he wants to play for a trash team, none of the good teams have cap space to sign him for more than his player option. So unless he's willing to take less money in a worse location or play for a worse team out of pure *spite*, he's not going anywhere.
Hey A.M, Hoops, great video as always. But I took some offense on the time where you started talking about Ben Simmons' back problems. My mom has a similar disease and has had it for a couple (6) years now, and more stress causes back problems. I'm no doctor and I really didn't understand it until it put her in the hospital. Twice. It starts in the disc of the back and she had no disk as it had disappeared all of a sudden. So really, I understand you probably aren't a doctor and are a UA-camr with basketball knowledge and I don't expect you to get this, or anyone else for that matter. All I am saying is that this is real and things like running errands, getting ready for work, being at work, cooking, all of that affected her brain as stress, then went down to her spine. Please don't make any fun of it, as it can be hurtful to some people. It is not like sneezing and throwing out your back, I just don't think you understand the situation properly.
Thanks for reading this A.M. Hoops (I hope you do and everyone who comes to the comment section), and I hope you don't take any offense. Still a great video man, keep up the good work!!
I want to see Kyrie, Westbrook, Zion, and Ben Simmons playing together with Pope as the head coach.
Lol the clown squad
I don't think even the Pope can make that team win, but I would like to see what would the Vatican says if the Pope coach a basketball team hahaha
if the head coach ( who was once a plaer ) has less rings than the players.. than he will not be respected
*KD* avoided LeBron due to the apparent *TOXICITY* but ended up being with the person why the Cavs were toxic back then.
Mental Stress can cause Physical Pain.
Remember at the trade deadline the nets were wanting to get Myles turner for Claxton and picks I think
Hopefully Marks can pull it off in the off-season
Steve Kerr had experience prior to coaching, he was part of the suns executive group and management…nash just literally walked on the floor
Which is weird because you'd think they would've learned from the Jason Kidd hire that it was a bad idea
This man is speaking the truth...
The only thing that will get Kyrie to leave is if he gets mad about something with the Nets.
Exactly. Any excuse for him not to show up. That dude is intent on getting full-time wages for fast-food hours.
You and flightmike are top notch and giving content
Blake, Drummond, and Aldridge is for sure gone. Patti Mills will be interesting if he stays. I would keep Dragic and be excited to have Joe Harris back and see what Simmons brings. Have two impactful players not on the floor during the playoffs hurt. Not saying it is the answer, but it could be an entirely different team with one more shooter and a defensive presence. If the nets could get Grant from Detroit and add Ben that would be some defense that could go well with the offense of Kyrie and Durrant.
3team Nets/Heat/Spurs trade:
MIA get:Kyrie Irving/Cam Thomas/Dayron Sharpe/Zach Collins(50.9mil out-48.5mil in)
BK get:Dejounte Murray/Duncan Robinson/Doug McDermott(43mil out-47Mil in)
SAN get:3 1st(2BK/1MIA)/ Tyler Herro/Kessler Edwards/Kyle Lowry(trade asset)(37.6mil out-35.6mil in)
Nets trade Ben Simmons(35.6mil) for Rudy Gobert(38.1mil)
Trade Joe Harris(18.6mil)+2 2nds for Harrison Barnes(18.3mil)
Use 11.3mil exception on Richaun Holmes(11.2mil)
Murray/Mills
Brown/Curry
Barnes/Robinson
Durant/McDermott/Griffin
Gobert/Holmes/Aldridge
Not a fan of any of these teams, but I thought of this trade after the Hawks got booted, let me know what you think:
Hawks get: J Grant, C Joseph, T Rozier, K Oubre, PJ Washington, Hornets 22 1st pick
Pistons get: D Gallinari, J Johnson, Pelicans 22 1st pick (via Hornets)
Hornets get: J Collins, K Huerter, Hawks 22 1st pick, Hornets 23 1st (via Hawks)
For the Hawks, they are totally restructuring this team for a better fit around Trae. They are mainly doing this to bring in a better defensive 4 in Grant, a secondary ball handler in Rozier. They also get serviceable role players and move up in the draft.
For the Pistons, they are getting rid of 2 expiring contracts for a young player, salary filler and a first
For the Hornets, they are also restructuring this team for better fit. They are getting rid of Rozier and 2 expiring contracts to finally get a young center they like in Collins and another young player with 4 years left on his contract who fits well with Lamelo. They also get an additional first.
I especially like the Hawks and Hornets rosters after this trade. If anyone says no I think it would be the Hornets, but I think if they cant find a trade for a star, this is a pretty good route.
This analysis is spot on.
6:10 I’m weak KD really went from the best situation possible to the most toxic teammates in the league 💀
Absolutely...mental stress is super connected to the body...
I never agree with SAS but he's got a point, you can't trust Kyrie to ever play a full season whether it be bc of injury or personal reasons and he hasn't shown up in the post season since leaving LeBron
Idk y people disagreeing with this
@@ajgraham1523 it's literally a fact, he ruins every team he goes to whether it be bc of his ego or who know what
Off course psychosomatic issues are a thing!
It's just very interesting that they pop up exactly in difficult situations when it's about trades and contracts and muuuch money 😁😎
Payton going from Golden State to the Nets would be like going from basketball heaven to basketball hell.
Mental stress can fk up one's back/neck, at least in conjunction with poor posture and poor diet. In 1998, I had a herniated disc in my neck (head banging as a teenager injury 1988 seriously), and went through a very stressful time I handled horribly. My neck and upper back muscles tightened so much that I lost all feeling in my left arm and most of my right for several months. Insurance sucked and doctors couldn't fix me. Bankrupted me. Went to a chiropractor, who fixed me instantly, unfortunately at the cost of horrible neck pain ever since. So, partially paralyzed with no pain or mobility at the cost of pain. Ever since has been a journey of taking better care of myself. Tmi....sorry...just saying I know it's possible. If I was rich it wouldn't have been as big a problem, so my empathy is about nil for Simmons
Jazz need a plan too
Need to blow it up but how??
Dude Kyrie nearly every season misses major time and that almost always contributes to playoff disappointments. Steven A has a point why would I pay a 4-5 year Supermax for a guy that plays half the time given his history. I’m no closer to a title with kyries unreliability if I’m the nets.
Honestly though kyrie needs a Rudy gobert situation. Go be crazy in the middle of nowhere where nobody in their right mind wants to play, be the star of the team play all the games and be a barely first rd and out playoff team every year and that’s the only way we’ll ever hear of this man just playing ball being happy and stop diving head first into any drama he can sniff out
The Nets are suffering from the Atlantic Yards CBA curse. They built the arena and the nearby housing with community support and signed a Community Benefits Agreement (CBA) in 2005. After they got the arena, they ditched the community and sparked gentrification. The people who fought for the arena got pushed out of the community. I told Nets fans at the beginning of the season that I do not think they will ever win a championship there because of what they did to that community.
as bad as westbrook was thought to be this year, at least the guy is always available. I wouldn't give Kyrie anything. Let him go, set a new precedent for handling these types of players.
Nerlens Noel is a hot commodity for cheap salary, because the up and coming bigs in the draft are versatile player with little injury concerns
Two options. 1 let Kyrie, Nash and Ben go and build a legitimate team around KD and second opinion is to let KD go to a better team.
lel I don't think they should just fire Nash like that
Next season, they keep Bruce and Clax, they're both great options for a backup if the starters get tired.
Can’t pay Claxton 10+ million to be a back up and he’s not good enough to be a starter
Sidebar: my boy got hair. That's kinda scary lol
I stopped making predictions on Kyrie Irving. Cause this dude can't be calculated. If you think it's unrealistic and there's a 0.1% chance of happening then Kyrie will find a way. I wouldn't be surprised if Kyrie pulls a Darren Collison and decides to retire tomorrow because he wants to become an Imam. Cause thats just that kind of guy Kyrie is!
So for me there's no realistic or unrealistic when it comes to number 11
😂 this is a DUB
you are wrong in one point though. Kyrie is very predictable in terms of collecting a big check. All that nonsense, Bball isnt everthing, anti-vaxx, sage burning, walking to the arena with a damn stick....but he still wants that 45 mill a year. He wants to wander the world like Jules? Go ahead, stop playing games.
@@maxmeier532 didn't he lost like 20 million because of the Vaccine?
the Nets starting 5 next season can look like Ben Simmons Kyrie Irving Joe Harris Kevin Durant and then like you said Casey I agree they definitely need a Big Man/Center. Out of the Nets FA's in my opinion Kyrie and Patty Mills will both pick up their (PO's), and then they re-sign Bruce Brown Jr., Nic Claxton, and Drummond if the Nets can't get a real Center. Aldridge, Blake, and Dragic I think Brooklyn should let walk in FA, I know Dragic had a decent season but they already have Patty Mills. This was a solid video Casey!!!
Why isn't the player option realistic? The Nets would just say "you can take the option or leave in free agency" Teams aren't going to line up to offer him long term big money deals. Even if they do is Kyrie going to like Sacramento, Orlando, or Indiana? Brooklyn is his ideal situation. I don't think he'd give it up at the end of the day.
The Kings are a Galactic black hole.
Nash should go ... kiyre played better than KD .... damn fire steve nash please and sell the other 3 starters.
"They need a Big man Rim Protector"
Jarrett Allen: No Shit
Keep Nash, and trade everybody else. Get young players who are putting good numbers as role players or are coming of the bench. Im sure they will work hard to prove they can be starters. Build a team with young players who can work together.
Lol, what a horrible idea
Nash has no system and runs no plays.
After that 1 for 11 free throw game I would not keep Nic Claxton on the team
@A.M. Hoops, your point about the Nets being over the Cap is key! I would say let him walk otherwise ... nobody else can pay him as much as the Nets and seeing the circus that always accompanies him, nobody is likely to WANT to pay him as much or for as long. But, letting him walk doesn't give the Nets ANY flexibility to sign someone else! I'd only given him the 4 year deal and look for the FIRST chance to trade him for a Snickers Bar and some gum balls!
Good damn video Casey! Yes Steve Nash needs to be fired! ASAP!
Watching this for the first time and it's like the nets were listening to this channel. KD demanded a trade and the nets fired Nash .Only kyrie is so unpredictable and opt in on his player option
They desperately deserves DEFENSE! Hope Ben comes in full health when he does.
Good one for getting Quin Snyder as the next HC!
Quinn Snyder would be at Duke before he coaches the Nets. Brooklyn is a mess and is a lottery team after Kyrie and KD are gone within three weeks.
Utah is at least stable.
Ben informing Nets that his mental block causing back issues.
Nets: Emotional Damage?! 😂😂
KD will demand a trade and will go to the Lakers to join Lebron, to try to win another chip. Kyrie and Simmons will not be traded since no team would want them and I do agree with you on Nash being fired.
Love the videos!
Nash is a bad coach. A better coach and they have a ring last year. Ben Simmons is just a toxic player who quit on everyone for a year.
I really don't think Steve Nash is to blame. What can he do with the egos on that team? I don't think any of the coaches you named will be able to manage Kyrie or Simmons. Some of the leagues best coaches (including LeBron) have worked with both those guys and no one has done it. Nash was set up to lose, but it would honestly be the merciful thing to fire him and let him get a real HC job somewhere else. Maybe he'd take over for Quinn Snyder
Ben needs to go along with Kyrie. Trade them to a team for a top 5 pick and another star.
They ain't getting that kind of return.
4 year 80 million is the most i would give him .. or let him opt in, and let him leave next year, and trade KD for picks to do rebuild. If he doesn't like it, he can leave this season.
Another, really crazy option, and the trade machine says the money works, is trading for AD and Lebron with everything that Brooklyn has (without Kyrie, KD and the veteran minimum guys). Lakers would get 3 picks, and they could then trade Curry, Mills, Brown and Harris for additional pick each, get the 3 rookies that Brooklyn has (Thomas, Sharpe and Edwards), Simmons and Claxton. So 7 picks, 3 rookies with some potential, Ben Simmons and Claxton for AD and Lebron. That's not bad
Your funny
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Kyrie is half man, half a season 😂
I said it before when Harden went to the Nets. 3 Drama queens in 1 team. this gonna be goooooooood. =P
I like this dude 🔥🔥🔥🔥
What do think about a trade involving joe Harris one of those first round draft picks for the unicorn ? 🤔
The Nets are probably not going to do it but I think they should rebuild. Their window is closing with this roster. KD is not getting any younger and already had a major injury and Kyrie is Kyrie. I don't see them winning any title or even getting to the finals in the future. There were a lot of red flags with their plan of signing KD And Kyrie and also lost all of their depth with the Harden trade.
They could trade Kyrie, Seth, Simmons and KD for picks. Because they don't have anything left to rebuild right now. They gave up their future for Harden
If the nets can get GP2 next year that would be their first smart decision in a while
warriors aren’t gonna let that happen i don’t think kerr is that slow
Who’s here after they’ve just blew everything up?
Love your videos
Do a video on Warriors and Wiggins. That will be interesting
kyrie is literally basketball neymar
After 2 months, we learned Kyrie himself had no leverage, bc other organizations (except LAL) wasn't eager to get all of his nonsense. the relation with KD was his only leverage. 4:47 BKN had choice 4:00 Kyrie opt in.
Lowkey, Stephen a got a point bro I wouldn't want someone so flaky to be locked in for a while
Kyrie-Drama effect 🤣🤣🤣
There can be clauses in contracts. Give him his max but if he doesn’t do something necessary required to even enter the building he he not only doesn’t get paid, he also gets fined. He owes the nets money at this point.
I’m completely fine signing Kyrie and I honestly think he would take a slightly lesser contract because he feels like he let the team down this season.
They can keep all 3 stars but they need to fill out the rest of the roster better. They need a culture changer (a locker room guy/leader). Blake is a fan favorite so keep him. Keep Bruce & Claxton. We need to get players with size that can pass shoot and dribble. The clippers wings and Myles Turner would be nice
I agree with this, I think the Nets FO should make sure they can get back some on Kyrie's contract. I would say they can put in some incentive in the contract for him to play more but Kyrie clearly showed that he doesn't care about money.
Keeping Blake and making him the "Haslem of the Nets" sounds like a fun idea but there has been talks that Blake wasn't happy with falling out the rotation so there is a chance he may go to somewhere that offers him a bigger role (idk where would that be unless the Lakers want to repeat their season record)
@@reaper_is_unavailable tbh i know a lot of nets fans complain about Kyrie & playing games, but if you really think about it I don’t think any of us really want him to play more than 60-65 games lol
@@user-xn4bq2vv6y That is true, if you want healthy Kyrie in the playoffs then he has to miss some games
I think their best option is think long term.
Don't extend kyrie, he is not a player that is reliable either injury or his mindset.
Work with Ben try to get him back on the floor next year. Trade him for good role players especially at centre position and wing players.
Next off season find a super start that can help kd.
That's it.
You can t solve this mess with few role player.
Mark Jackson?
Ben Simmons description of his injury sounds like something you say to your doctor to get some weed.
🧐 Clearly the issue was Steve NASH. He was out coached all year. Harden pointed it out in and out was magnified in the Playoffs
Can u do a Hawks off-season plans next?
Do the Bulls fixing video next, please!!!
Nash gotta go sorry!
If the nets get Payton jr it would be so clutch. Take the ball out of iso hands to create space. Nash would love his play style.
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kyrie to washington would be a great fit, they need a point guard
That is a nice choice but the only problem is that Washington wouldn't pick up on it. Kyrie said that if he got traded he wouldn't play and at this if there is anything we can trust from Kyrie now is that he sticks to his word, so the threat of unavailability would be too much for Washington to risk.
Nets is just overhyped by media
well, rightfully so. they had a real big3 didnt they. it just wasnt meant to be, the moving parts couldnt be moved to work with each other. but on paper it seemed like a no-brainer.
Get rid of Steve Nash....
Do the Hawks next since their are eliminated.
Griffin, Dragic & Lamarcus Aldridge Retirement! Maybe?
Griffin should play games in the park with friends, not be in the NBA. There is no shame in that. He was a no1 draft pick like what, 10 years ago? for whatever reason, he hit his ceiling years ago and declined quickly. He could be a Lebron in terms of his body size but he isnt at all.
Firing Nash & Getting rid of Simmons is what the nets need.. go Celtics!
Can you make the Nuggets or the Bulls?
(Because of the loss in the first round)
Can you do a Chicago bulls off-season plan ?
i’m a big fan can we get a hawks off-season basics?
Bruh, they all left, except 🅱️en Simmons. 🤣
Funny thing is one of the only teams with the assets to get Kd in a trade is golden state.