Thank you for the comment! I'm just recently restarted the whole game from scratch as there where so many updates and also the difficulty level changes so players are not unnecessarily punished :D But it's hard to tell yet, how developers managed to achieve it or not :D Together we can overcome these difficulties and fight the Pandorans! Happy hunting ;)
You can however make the mindcontrolled guys trade their gear to one of your characters, so this means mind control someone with the guns you want and boom gear.
This is invaluable information! You, my fellow gamer, are legend! I'm wondering..just theoretically if you would attack factions (on faction threshold missions) and mindcontrol them all..and take away their weapons..would that mean 100% weapon 'drop' chance from enemies?? And the same of course for aliens..
This is no longer possible. However, you can still do it by walking up to a crate with the mindcontrolled guy, which opens up the inventory automatically.
MLMariss, at first I was like, oh God, not another video where someone is trying to speak English!!! But I was curious about getting new pointers on the game and watched the entire video. It didn't take long at all for me to clearly understand everything you said. I was patient and very attentive to your accent. I applaud you for quickly trying your best to follow up with an example of what you are trying to say and teach everyone. I must say, there are so many parts where the video is funny and entertaining in a good way. The pointers (tips) were EXCELLENT!!! I learned a lot and there's more than enough info here to give everyone a hell of a good start to finish the game! It's rare that I write any comments, but I wanted to write and say thanks for the awesome video & tips. Sincerely, Cool Breeze XCom 1&2 5 Star General... Soon to be a 5 Star General on this game too. ') еще раз спасибо!
This is absolute honor to receive such a comment from X-Com general like you! :) Thank you so much and this lightens up my day and gives me positive energy to continue my work!! Happy hunting!
Strangely, nobody mentioned using medkits at the and of the mission! Usually we all put at least one medkit on every soldier. Before you kill last buggie heal the team with medkits. Medkits are cheap and will replenish instantly, healing time is not cheap at all! I do not do that only if I have to go to base for resting, so the healing will be simultaneously. More to this, I think there is no need for more than one medbay per base.
Heh, just commented similar comment on this :D Yes, that is the way to do it - just, remember, even if cheap, those medkits still cost you materials and tech. If you go too much healing - you will find yourself running out or resources. And another thing - I use medkits only if heavily wounded (less than 50% HP) and/or heavy bleeding effects in the middle of battle, but I totally ignore small injuries, because Stamina and exhaustion is the main reason you will still bring your soldiers back to base. Small bonus tip - stamina and health replenishment does not intervene with each other, meaning - small injuries will be healed while your soldiers get back full stamina, this - purely ignoring (and of course - not getting shot in the first place) are pretty good tactics too ;)
Happy to help! The game is pretty intensive of new information and mechanics, but also I need to mention - keep in mind the video was made when game came out, there are few mechanics the changed quite a bit - the Acid comes in my mind for example! ;)
tip: raid factions you want to get what you want, then defend them against pandorians, to increase good attitude. of course keep an eye on % of attitude.
thanks for this i backed the game and kinda forgot about it lol . so i am starting now some of this i know but some of it was a kick to the face . like how did i not get that . thanks for the tips my dude especially the willpower tip i did not know the willpower nodes on the map went to all party members .
Watching videos about this game that I am about to play excites and scares the hell out of me. I have never played a game like this. It sounds like a combination of age of empires and the board game risk on steroids. 40 years of video games and I might have just met my match
Thank you for such an informative video. I have only just picked up the game in the Steam sale. Dont know how I missed it, as I am a big fan of the original XCom games. The tips about using Will are great. This game keeps calling me back to have another go. Dont get many games like that. I have played ten hours and really enjoying it. I did watch your video to the end!
Glad I could help! Also i need to warn that video is a bit outdated as game has changed quite a lot in this time, but you should be able to get some useful tips out of it anyways ;) As one X-Com fan to another I can tell you right away - you will love the aiming system in the game (if you don't already :D ) that is a huge improvement and changes so many things and frustrations we had in X-Com..you know what I'm talking about :D Have fun and happy hunting ;)
2% mortality rate, but you have red all over? I'm 45% and have that much red all over. Turns out that the devs intentionally not tell you how nests and lairs work. If you do not participate and succeed in a haven defense, the nest/lair will never pop up on the map, nor can be scanned before the haven gets attacked. If you see a haven get destroyed, there's a nest nearby and you should scan near it to spot it. Havens actually actively attack nests, it just doesn't appear that way, maybe not shown on purpose. The moment a haven gets attacked within the span of a few 'ingame hours' (the same way your bases get attacked, you get alerted), the nest/lair/citadel spawns in that instant and you will never notice because scans are not passive, but active manually. I have a theory, that behind the global map, that havens actively are attacking nests as they appear, rendering them unable to defend themselves, and nests appear rapidly and commonly over time, just being erased as fast as they spawn. Then you have havens being taken out and nests spreading while out of sight, hence the red mists. The rule is that nests must be created in a mist, but the mist does not disappear when a nest is destroyed. It is ABSOLUTELY vital that you get a mist repeller technology as early as possible, probably from stealing but you might only steal what they actively research. It took several ingame 'months' before the ingame factions starts researching useful things. I think the ingame factions has the baseline 'research and fabrication' facilities that the player has, and the more 'research facility' are built, the faster they learn new tech for you to share or steal. The problem, is that as they advance, other factions starts hating them, and hence closer to warfare between one another.
Oh, yes - you are absolutely correct on so many things! :D I've spent so many game time already and also just discussing with my brother we came to the same conclusions about nest spawning and how you need to defend them to reveal their location! And nothing of that is mentioned anywhere in the game!!! I don't have the repeller technology yet, but I do defend everyone and clear out nests as soon as I got their locations! That's how I managed to get only 2% mortality rate with so much mist :D Thank you for all this valuable information - I hope others are also reading it, because it's crucial! Thank you a lot and happy hunting ;)
@@MLMariss Mortality rate? It's the Oneiric Delirium Index not the mortality rate. The idea is that alien nests propagate a signal that turns humans insane.
I know, I know - I shouldn't call it likt that! For me to pronounce those names is too hard :D It's the same idea as in X-Com where it's aliens progress bar, when it goes full - they win, we lose :) My apologies for this confusion and misuse of totally different term!
Thank u for taking time to giving ur Tipps and share your expirience.. im quite bad and play on Veteran level and... i dont had the courage to acept that the lowest Dificulty maybe is the right start. but its one of ur first tipps and after hearing the others i sense a quite trace of pure unrefined expirience. so im starting again and maybe get more to see than dying soldiers in the first salvadge site, that tantrums a whole of other Problems afterwards =D
Happy to help! And I need to update this particular Tip - developers heard the community and in few updates already updated the difficulty settings making it more viable to play harder versions. At the moment I've started Veteran from scratch and it doesn't seem as punishing as it was at the game release time.. Just mentioning it here - this one Tip is something developers worked on! :)
FYI, you can leave a rifle on him and he will return fire with it if you equip it before ending the turn. But I don't like to load my teams down like that for most groups, but maybe not bad for a spacific non-retrieval team
Very true - but that leaves it for interpretation! I recall once setting up the trap for enemy and the they never came and I lost half of the day 'playing safe and smart' :D Oh damn I was furious :D
Playing on veteran. I have found that I have more success playing very aggressively. Approach under cover to close range as best possible and take off arms and pincers, etc...
@@MLMariss You are welcome. I found that playing cautious and slow gave the enemy more rounds to fire and more opportunities to use their actions overall (ie: shots, abilities, etc...) chances per round. Close in and cut off their limbs and heads quick! 8)
The length is cool, if the info is good. Good Job. (Only thing that could be better would be to label the topics in the progress bar - becomes even handier when the video is longer)
TY great vid actually watched it till the end. You obviously understand the game pretty well but I have to disagree about the training center. You should build at least 5-6 at your first base and the rest like you said fabrication plants, research, food, etc... For a functional base all you need is medbay and living quarters and your soldiers can rest and heal, I suggest 2 med bays for fast heals. So any new recruit goes to the main base and after a few days there you can have a lvl 7 soldier ready to deploy anywhere. Also you can steal aircraft, I know it's -20 with that faction but in most playthrough it shouldn't be a problem.
Great comment, thanks for support too! For training facilities I agree - the benefit is great! The issue in the first base I have is 1) limited space..where if you struggle to find next bases fast..you will fill those empty slots with all other facilities. 2) other problem at the beginning is electricity - you'll find yourself in the situation where 2 spots left and electricity only for 1 facility, where there is no point of making +1 power facility if there are no space left! and 3) issue is..where you start, you will clear out everything around you..thus making that area quite empty for you, thus making that base further away from the action. So in that sense it is smarter to get some 3rd, 4th base you find..which is quite empty..then fill with the training center for your new soldiers.. So that is currently the course of action I changed myself and many thanks for pointing this out ;) Together we will not only survive but thrive! :)
@@MLMarissMy fav X-com was Apocalypse, I played it for a few years and completed it 3-4 times. This game took a lot from that and modernized, and simplified it's nowhere close to the complexity of X-com Apocalypse but much better than Firaxis XCOM 1 and 2. Now about your points. 1. It's very easy to find new bases fast in this game, I might be mistaken but it looks to me that they are roughly at the same place every playthrough and even if not they're still easy to find, at least 1. The game even tells you where to look. 2. So 1 slot in the base will be empty not that big of a deal. 3. I said that you should only bring the new recruits to this base just for a few days and than after they get lvl 7 send them wherever you want. IMO you should do gameplay\walkthrough with commentary I'll watch that, didn't like the 1 without. I love this game and going to play it the next few years.
Im gonna put it this way if you lose a specialized base due to a pandoran attack it hurts alot nom of my ships were near my training base and my recruits couldn't handel the fight lost the base mind you this was my first run of game so i was missing alot
Oh, my - Apocalypse was/is still one of the best X-Com series and one of my favourites too! I'm not gonna lie - I also enjoyed X-Com2 quite a lot, but oh, yes..whole city defense, alien ship fights, landings, investigating crash sites, keeping all the organizations happy..oh boy, that game set quite high bar! :) I haven't finished my first playthrough, but I'll keep in mind to look for bases in the same spot! :D And for anyone who has any difficulty with the game - you came to the right place! not only for videos - but for such a great helps in comment section ;)
@@MLMariss Not the same spot and not always but same parts of the world in most playthroughs I watched and now on my second playthrough found the first 2 very fast. Also looks like you always get 1 from the 50% synedrion mission, called something like Would be pirate king. This time was able to get to 50% with all the factions. Just need to get lucky with heaven defences and destroy nests and laires strategically for the all factions bump.
Happy to help - one thing to mention - keep in mind the video was made when game was released, now there are some balances and changes that will make some of the tips invalid ;)
Oh and a hack for restoring health without returning to base ... you can start/end your mission with use of medkits. With hitpoints restored before mission ends and body parts after the mission, your soldiers are as good as new ...
With one additional note here - Medkits cost resources to manufacture. Not a lot, but if you get too lazy and heal everyone in all the fights - I feel you will run into depleting your resources ;) But another amazing tip to prolong your fighting spree!
Also later on i find about half my guys are fully encumbered when u got a heavy lugging around his hell cannon deceptor mg and pythagoras viii so he can kill anything anywhere anyhow
Would be interesting if someone always play in 'slow' mode and try to manage multiple aircrafts at the start to keep everything efficient. Time pauses when you pull up any of the other menus other than haven menus though.
While there is 21 possible class variations, there are actually more ways to use them if you count the random perks. The random perks is way more important in the late game since its the best way to increase damage with the same equipment. I had a Assault Sniper with Strongman perk. In base defense mission using quickaim+ rapid clearance he single handedly cleared 70% of the mobs in the first turn with the Deceptor minigun. Keep recruiting rookies till you find the best perk combination. By the way, stealth has the strongest one shot damaged. Even minigun or shotgun will not break your stealth if you are far away. Ex: with 80 stealth they will not see you if you are more than 2 tiles away. Unless some enemies have more perception
Thank you for mentioning this! And so much YES! Minor SPOILER ALERT for those who are still in early game.. But if you count in also mutations..which also somewhat not only change gameplay but also give some more abilities to use..? Then that number 21 goes up even more! And that stresses me out as I want to test them all xD
Mariss the mutation feel like a small buff for your soldier in the late game/ faster cheaper way to have armor rather than pure gameplay changes like the class system. I think it is comparable to a new armor system since it also stop you from using mounted slots. The active abilities are lackluster. Like the Psychic scream, it cost 3AP + some WP for a mid range aoe. Using that much AP, I rather shotgun them in the face. The passive boost is actually good though.
Oh, yea I was looking at the regen part for example - that could replace medkits entirely! Small damage in battle? No problem, any next battle and you are healed back to max.. :) Very true about the shooting in face :D I find this part of game a bit annoying - where there is vague explanation of ability that comes with mutation or the same abilities from the spec - but there is not mention AP or WP cost.. Thank you for commenting and giving us more info! :)
i had an assault infiltrator singlehandedly do a base defence in the first turn with rapid clearance free reload and a shotgun xD just dash to where u need to go!
one last tip for everyone. Berserker class is the Siren Killer. A combination of shred armor ability (on level 2 next attack would remove 50 armor at cost of 4 willpower) with mind control immunity (level 6 ... I think the ability name is Adrenaline Rush) is lethal for those snakes. Cross-train the Berserker with Assault, give him a shotgun, put this beast in the path of the Siren and he will shave ALL armor from almost all body parts of that snake BEFORE dealing 200-300 points of damage on overwatch. With armor and psychic powers removed Siren threat level drops to just above Mind Frager. Two such Assult Berserkers might kill that thing on overwatch. P.S. The Doctor class (Anu psyc attacker) also have group psych immunity ability on level 6 or 7 ...
We have another absolute legend here - thank you so much for this info! Otherwise it would take me years to train and test every single class myself! :D How about Berserker combo with Infiltrator for the same effect but 2x the damage..?
@@MLMariss My Infiltrators don't like to come at shotgun range with their targets because they may end up revealed and cloaking again is costly. Besides Berserker/Infiltrator class doesn't have shotgun profficiency naturally.
Honeslty, once you realise that the head of the siren causes -30 will drain and has ok but not that great health and armour it becomes fairly easy overall. The menace of the siren is at the start when you simply dont have the accuracy or damage to precision the face off in my opinion
Exactly - that was also one of update fixes - that NOW tooltip actually says that Mindcontrol ability will be lost when head is destroyed..which is a great help to disable Sirens! :) And I'm also not a big fan of close combat quarters, but hey - that's another option to play around ;)
Trade: Anu - 2 Tech = 12 Food, Anu, NJ - 4 Food = 6 MAT(18 Mat) Syn. - 8 MAT = 2 TECH This way you can win 4,25 TECH for 2 TECH. Sad, there is no way to win Tech & Mat thanks Base facilities... Weapons and Armours are very expensive and I do not mention about Planes & Soldiers. This game doesn't let you lose a single soldier, so that you can without issue continue...that is the biggest problem. If I'm wrong, I'd love to hear it ;) BTW nice Tips, THUMB UP! 1k ;)
Daaaamn - that's one hell of a best trading tip right there! o.O Thank you for this!! I haven't played the game for a while, but wasn't there an Ironmode or something in difficulty that let you lose people? :D If I understand the questions right :)
Here's a fun tip. If you evac from a haven defense after killing a few enemies but did not complete it, it counts as mission failed but not really screw you over. You retain everything you had, but all injuries are healed meaning you can go back in and use medkits to heal up. Each time you 'go into' a battle the map layout and enemies randomizes, so if you have a 'Scylla' boss or 3 Sirens, just exit and come back and maybe it'll change to something else. Only the leader of the haven hates you for leaving, BUT time does not pass! You can technically farm infinite XP this way by killing enemies and possibly looting (grab items from a nearby box and then evac), maybe item boxes resets?
Wow, that sounds like a nice exploit :D Only question for me would be - what changes if faction leader is angry at you..? Does it influence reputation gain to that faction? Or some complications in missions? Or..that could be absolute/ultimate soldier training option?! :D Thank you for sharing this idea! ;)
My one tip: No matter the tips viewed, by this gentleman or other people, play a playthrough for worst. Yes its going to be worst. Mistakes will be made. Order of operations needs to be learned as well as the priorities the tip dealers are doling out. All of what they say is 100% of value but they are pros and know the rng better then the game. Therefore it will not run as smoothly for you on Veteren as it does for them on Legendary. Ie. Stealing ANY ship ASAP (difficult AF 😅) Most of all....your 1st playthrough youll realize is still just a stone skipping off a lake. So much more, so many more paths and options
I most cases I would agree to have a 'test run' or worst playthrough as you called it! The main challange for that will be to gather your energy to do it...on...more....time! :D I've played it when it came out, with a LOT of quality of life improvements missing, misbalance, none of the DLCs, and it was quite the journey (tedious, but journey nevertheless)! So now I can't even gather strength to go back and start over all again, yet again with 'test run' scenario that will be exact same game (patches, DLCs, etc) 2 times in a row? I wish you the strength :)
Pandoran base attack difficulty works as you said, but not really. Read the research on pandoran colonies, it says clearly that TWO lower level bases (I think in game called Spawning Caves) MERGE into a Citadel (that is the harder mission with the creature at the opposite end of the base to kill).
There are Nest, Lair and Citadel in corresponding difficulties. Nest will have mist generating towers, Lair will have Spawneries and Citadel..I have not encountered yet - but yes, by following info we have it should be something upgrading/evolving from previous bases if left alone and not eradicated. I just don't think Nests can merge into Citadel, you need to have 2 Lairs then..? I'm not saying for sure, as I haven't figured this out yet ;) Any addition info is highly appreciated here :D
Sorry, but there are a few things you missed, like the fact that enemies also have willpower. drop willpower to 0 and they out of the game for a turn. This brings to the point of Viral Weapons, and the Biochemist perk that turn ANY weapon/attack into Viral Weapon. Viral Weapon infects and do damage to willpower each turn FOR EVERY PROJECTILE HITTING THE TARGET. What I do is take an assault with that perk, give him a shotgun (preferably the Anu one) and put that assault front and center of Cheron (the artillery unit). Result: That shotgun shot most likely will take the head off (-20 willpower on the spot plus bleed damage), make two of them and that tank has 16-20 viral infection points on that tank, taking it out of the game for 11-15 TURNS This is even more important during Pandoran base assault. The enemy's spawn rate depends on number/strength of enemies on the field, so don't kill them, disable as many as you can and move ...
Trust me - I know there is not everything :D Video is already long and people are always complaining that I pack too much in them :D But yes, very good point - best for assault weapons as they shoot in burst and shotgun effect I had been wondering - thank you for commenting and confirming my thoughts! Virus affection works like acid/fire - takes affect every turn and loses it's impact as well turn by turn until disappears if not killing the victim first.
You know, i had this one setup that was great for grouped enemies. Deceptor mg heavy with biochemist and rage burst.... firing 60 bullets that all do virus damage into a crows is fucking glorious if also a little situational, but biochemist as a whole is great on the Deceptor MG
Oh, damn - yes! every assault rifle and also shotguns pull off some great combo with Biochemist, but Deceptor - the best! The only thing - I believe everyone should be dead in that..direction after Rage Burst :D
Don't save scum... unless you make a bad decision... Dude you can't tell people not to save scum and then describe save scumming as a tip. People if you direly screw up, then try to live with it, either you'll fail and have to try again or you'll eventually bounce back and it will make each and every victory just that much sweeter
I will say - yes and no. These are video games where all options are available and we don't judge by the playstyle. Especially (this is important) when the video was released (at the beginning of the game launch) it was VERY inbalanced and harder difficulties was just pure pain and suffering. Later developers finetuned and made a lot of corrections..so your comment, especially if you play the latest version of the game is kind of understandable, but doesn't go together with the initial timing and advice :) It is appreciated the thought and explanation - for sure!
ive posted this on a few comments but im gonna just post it on its own so people can see it easier Ditch heavy armour, jetpack is good and all but each piece gives -10 to accuracy which totals -30 percent. with all pieces on This detriment is not worth the added armour or the jetpack ability. Instead i suggest putting your heavy in banshee armour which has the opposite effect of +10 accuracy per piece. Effectively, switching from heavy armour to sniper aromur will give your heavies +60 percent accuracy than what they were getting
Yes, please! I believe Armor section (and analysis) will be needed for another video ;) But I'll mark the comment so everyone can read it ;) Thank you for it!
Heh, yes, that's one way to look at it! But in the same time - 2 days back came BIG update which changes..a lot if not most of the issues with the game..soo maybe it is now? ;)
@@maxx21285 Don't kill them in spawning missions with direct damage, make them bleed and while they limbless bleed in a corner move to your objective. As long as there are pandorans on the map new ones are not coming in as fast I got lucky and in Citadel assault mission where 3/4 of the spawning points ended up inaccessible. This made most of the enemies loiter in the corner, while the spawn rate was more or less one to one of my kills ... until I killed the artistry and than they spawned like 3-4 in the same turn ... Remember that devs can't have an endless amount of units on the map at the same time, it might crash the game.
Oh, right, right, right! So there are 7 main classes and you can make 21 combinations out of them (there is a mathematic formula how to calculate that :D ) including the base (pure) 1 class soldier :) And there is mathematical term combination, not variation, because class (for example) Assault + Infiltrator is the same as Infiltrator + Assault :) Anyways, I've spent unforgivable amount of time to explore all of those classes/combos, so you can take a look at quick overlook and see them in UA-cam: ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=MLMariss+Phoenix+Point%3A+Multi+class+guide No, I'm not suggesting to watch them all, also the game updated later on changed quite a lot of abilities and other aspects, so those videos are a bit outdated, just a basic info can be acquired there :)
Oh Gosh how your point about enemies Adapting hit true... One mission to get a Musical Composition spawns 3 Chirons, 3 sirens, 4 artherons with 30 armored arm and head, 6 chameleon tritons with 20 armor full body carrying iconoclast, totaling of 16 targets, 25 if you count the worms... That after i completed earlier missions killing 5-8 target with 1 shotgun Assault in 1round. So the game decided to up the number and add armor so 1shotting a target becomes obsolete. Luckily I brought enough snipers to snipe their heads off and a Priest to Mind Control and steal some of their numbers. Now what to prepare when the game adapt to mind control...
Oh boy - I felt that armor! I was literally going Jim Carry 'Oh, come on!' when encountered them and first saw heavily armored..every part of their body! :D I'm also wondering what more adaptations game have up in it's sleeves.. Link to the GIF, if someone still wonders :D media.giphy.com/media/MwOuiiTfWfWgM/giphy.gif
I fought a few aliens and just obliterated their heads, then I noticed they all now have their backs turned to me. I was like "why are they all hiding their heads?" ooooooooh
regarding the games adopting to your actions by growing armor ... nah that is not that ...try a scavenging mission in the mist and one far from the mist back to back. You will see that the enemies outside the mist have no armor and fraction of health of their counterparts in the mist ... Enemies do not change their tactics, they just evolve and grow armor. It does not make your old tactics less efficient, you just need to pump more lead into them. You can cook up new tactics to address the armor or you can get a bigger ship to have more firepower. This game is all about tradeoffs, bigger ship = slower travel with longer range. You do you. The one body part which I did not see much armor is the head. If enemy panic they don't lob grenades at you ...
Hmm..game developers themselves mention this and says the game is build to adopt..I see a point of mist battles versus non-mist battles could be a reason we see heavily armored Pandorans.. but yea, getting more lead OR getting piercing upgrades are a 'must have' at mid-late game ;)
Worth watching I picked up on afew things I didnt know, thank you. Food production, researching non PP weaponry/armor ect. I also heard that if you have 2 air transports, you can send both to a lair and have 16 soldiers in the fight.
Happy to help! I need to point out that game since it's release has changed..quite a LOT, so there might be few things that are relevant now..for example the same trick you are mentioning - it was not possible before, but now I'm also intrigued! :) thank you so much for sharing this ;)
Thank you for making this video! The game is hard even on Easy. If your start area has Nests nearby that spawn Arthrons equipped with machine gun arms and/or Tritons with Sniper Rifles.... just restart your game. Unless you want pain and suffering! You do not have to attack the Nest because they won't even show up until a bit later. But... if your first Scavenger Mission has either of those variants you got a bad roll. Just re-roll the start! Question! Possible SPOILER, WARNING! Why have you delayed your containment facility? Don't your troops get better at killing the aliens every time you capture and study them?
Thank you for the comment and support ;) To answer your question - honestly? I didn't delay I somehow picked (unknowingly) the research in order that led me to very late stage when I finally got containment facility :D And I didn't knew at the time it will provide me bonus damage to aliens :D I followed the research logic - do fast researches first and big ones latter, so I can start benefiting from little ones ASAP :)
SPOILER WARNING FOR THOSE IN EARLY STAGE OF GAME! I restarted the game until I got a start without Anthrons using machine gun arms and Tritons with just pistols... not sniper rifles. That was great but I need to figure out the timing of the transformation from Nest to Lair (both types) to Citadel?
Sorry, I'm still clueless about that transformation - but what I know for sure is - if you leave Pandorans base alone for a while - it will be abandoned! Not like it's transforming right on the same spot..dunno if there will be Citadel appearing soon somewhere else..but I'm also looking for those answers! My understanding is the Citadel is really close to the endgame, so just passing time and allowing Pandorans to do their thing should bring that Citadel and also ending of the game - but that's just my guess :)
@@MLMariss I was not far into the game. Maybe ten or twelve hours of playing when my first Lair appeared. I had the right team built so I was able to jump jet into range of the target and take her out. Without a Siren mind controlling my heavy. I was just happy to finally take out a Lair. The bad news? It was not long before another appeared. A much harder version. I failed to survive that one so I reloaded a save and I left it alone for a bit too long. It became a Citadel! I don't think I was more than twenty hours into that new game. I'm sure I was nowhere near end game. That's why I was wondering how the Nest to Lair to Citadel progression works. I wish they progressively transformed from Nests left unchallenged but that doesn't seem to be the case. Lairs and Citadels just seem to pop up from nothing. I'm also trying to figure out if a single Area Scan will reveal everything or is it possible that multiple scans are needed? It would be a nice mechanic if that were the case especially where the mist is advancing. Thanks again!
Sniper tritons and machine gun arthrons? thats not too deadly my friend. Started my first game and every subsequent game on hero andi frequently get machine gun armed grenade launching spitter arthrons (Poison arthons are literally awful they can one shot ur guys if ur not careful due to poison being OP) and shotgun tritons are far worse in my opinion, any oneshot weapon is dangerous. But all in al its not too hard to overcome as long as u got a heavy equipped with sniper armour cos then you can just cross map hell cannon those bad boys.
So I have revealed a large area... Found some Scavenging sites and completed some, and skipped some of them.... Question - Is there some indicator to show that Its looted already? (Other than visiting it and finding there is no mission option?) I am constantly forgetting which sites I have already looted, and revisiting them and finding "Oops I did this already, its the one next to I I have not done yet."
I'm wondering if I understand you correctly..but let me go from start - each site at the beginning will have question mark (?), basically unknown spot. Once you have discovered it - it will 1) give you resources/question and then resources/reputation 2) be scavenge mission where you can have battle and have resources afterwards 3) ambush mission where you are being attacked and you just need to survive 4) it's a haven/neutral city and thus you gain nothing. So from all those options - if that is 1) case the icon will change from question mark to the point - which is not worth to visit ever again.. 2) if you leave that mission it will show icon as 2 creates - that you can/should visit at some point and fight, win, get resources - then again the icon will change from creates to point 3) in this case you cannot choose - you have to fight and after fight the icon will be again - point. In all these scenarios, once the point of interest is done - it will change icon and will be useless to ever visit again. So that should help you figuring out if there is something to do for you or not ;) And just to mention - just fling through the points will reveal/start nothing - they will remain as question marks - you need to search the point of interest to interact with what's there.
Right the ones I am talking about are the Scavenge missions where I have to fight a battle. Sometimes I dont have time to do it when I discover it. So plan to do it later. What I wonder is am I missing some indicator to tell if it has scavenge mission has been completed? Because sometimes going back and trying to find the one I skipped is a pain finding it.
Hmm..the finished Scavenge missions should turn their icons also to the points, thus letting you know there is nothing left! So it some site icon is not turning after clearing that area - I'd say that's a bug then! ;)
Thank you for your kind words! Truth to be told - I'm a BIG fan of X-Com (and such type of games)since the beginning: UFO: Enemy Unknown which was European titles for whatever reason :D So yea - you might say I am fighting for terrestrials all my life :D
@@MLMariss I played ufo as a kid as well. Didn't finish Terror from the deep. But was totally hyped when i got a copy of ufo aftermath by chance^^ a few years later in my early twenties. I think i tried afterlight and aftershock as well. At last i watched some of your Videos when i played XCOM 2 on playstation 4. Lately i got a new PC 2 years ago and enjoying Phoenix Point...or let the game punch me in the face. XD So the last week i searched for some tips and Tricks Videos. I watched (tried to) quiet a few different. Also play through. And brother, i freaked out how stupid other Streamers play or try to explain the game. So what i tried to say in my first short comment is that i saw some of your XCOM 2 videos maybe 3-4 years ago. And now i watched your tips Tricks on PP. So it was no question for me that you are a Fan of xcom and PP. We can tell by how passionated and accurate you are explaining it (or telling your thoughts on it) to us. So in comparisson to other Streamers or Video makers u are the best Xcom-er I know^^ thank you for your work.
I'm screwed by the turn ting. I've played recently a similar game that doesn't have turns and I finished it without much problems. This thing of the turns makes things way more complex to me. 😤
Absolutely! And alos makes every fight way longer than it could be! Unfortunately there is just one game that I know which handles it good and it's an old game :D X-COM Apocalypse allowed to chose if you want to play turn based or real time combats! Such an awesome game from my childhood.
Yes! Good catch. It was pretty nice, but somewhat felt a bit too punishing (scripted ambushes and the pressure of survival), but still played it quite a lot, before ditching to something less stressful :D
Добрый день! А как у вас на карте есть несколько баз и всего 2% на полоске и много красных зон? Обычно когда я нахожу вторую базу уже 10% становится)) спасибо!
Hi, I hope it's ok if I respon in English? My Russian is a bit rusty.. :D So there are few things how to got that: First - it's easy difficulty. Second - getting all the Pandirian bases as soon as they appear. Third - that was easier achievable on previous versions, I believe..now the game is a bit changed too much and not in players favor. Forth - to achieve that exploration must be fast as well.
I disagree with you about bases. I would recommend base facilities like this. All bases should always have living quarters and medbay. Then you need shared about 3-4 research and fabrication plants with about 2-3 satellite uplinks. Later it is good to put in each base mist repeller. You can get by with only 1 alien containment. When you have space and resources you can build food facilities to get free resources (grow food and trade it in havens for other resources). One specialized training base is extremely useful. You don't need to use more than 3 or 4 training centers on one base - probably second one you get. After you get bonus tech from New Jericho it makes training centers much better and you can level from 1 to 7 in no time - to finish leveling your troops you need bonus points from shred pool anyway, but basic leveling is quick this way.
Heh, everyone is touching my training facilities tip :D And yes - you described it more in detail where I failed to do that. those extra training facilities never will be in 1st or even (sometimes) 2nd base - because you will need all other facilities AND there is limited space so 4-6 training facilities will never be achievable in first bases. Afterwards, when you have enough research/manufacture/food and other stuff - then in my 3rd or even 4th base I turned it to training base with a lot of Training facilities :) Yes, yes, I did not mention this at that point, but for mid-late game such base is really valuable - fully agree on that ;) Thanks for pointing this out!
You are asking the right guy - I'm not using them either, so - yes, absolutely! As long as soldier can wield any other type of weapons, you can freely choose what you want to use. And even being said that - Priest and Technician can potentially still participate without guns, if their build and other abilities can compensate that ;)
at DLC 2 legacy of the ancients food production is no longer viable, every soldier also cost 1 food per day upkeep. 20 soldiers -20 food. it hasnt been too much of a problem, best renewable resource comes from haven defence.
Can you please elaborate a bit more about the food? It's still the only resource we can grow/gain, right? What exactly changes that makes it not viable any more? I'm just in the start of playthrough once again and haven't got my hands on the technology yet :D
Guys, I have a question...is it possibly to delay the ODI (Oneiric Delirium Index) indefinitely by doing haven defense and lairs, or will it increase to 100 percent no matter what if you don't complete all the story missions?
I can't say for sure you will be able to keep it at 0, but yes, you can keep it from raising. But I also need to mention - it depends on difficulty level, I believe. On easy it can be hold around/below 10% all the time. Once you reveal all the world and can counter every attack and take down their bases - you will have ODI constant ;)
@@MLMariss I don't know if you've played Blood and Titanium, the new Phoenix Point DLC, but I thought I would share with you my findings. It now appears that he has changed the ODI into a timer where it goes up no matter what you do. I did a Lair mission, and before doing it my ODI was at 34 percent, then after completing the Lair it was still at 34 percent, even though in the original game it would have fallen to 30 percent. Doing nests only reduces it by 1 percent. I've concluded that doing Lair, Nest and Citadels on Titanium and Blood Legend difficulty is not worth it, the whole purpose of those missions was to reduce ODI and now they don't. So I'm restarting the game on Legend and will focus purely on Story and faction quests and maybe a few haven defenses to see how things go, it is shame he changed the ODI into a timer that can no longer be reduced, because I hate feeling like I'm being rushed through the game.
I have tried a little bit, but I had reports coming in for the same! They change the whole game pace and mechanics! And not in the good way..now I have little to none wish to return in the Phoenix Point.. :/ Thanks for the update and reporting!!
Im been briefly checking out the game. One question that plagues me is that does this game having any main quest time pressure like firaxis xcom game does? like if i chill out and do nothing the game scales? if so is there any mark that trigger the scaling?
Yes. The bar on the top right on the geoscape map is a countdown to full pandora virus infection. You can slow it down by destroying pandora nests discovered while scanning.
And this is the most important question you've got there! Just a brief history - in quite early stages one of the updates made game literally time limited, meaning - depending on difficulty level you have limited time to finish the game or you lose. Of course at easiest difficulties the time was quite a lot, but still finite..and yes - that is exactly the time/update when I stopped playing it. BUT later on with a lot of community backlash they did revert the update back to previous kind of state, where if you play smart, fight back, there should not be such hard limit when the game ends (at least that was the way how it was communicated). I hope that answers your question and gives even more than you asked for :D
@@MLMariss yup thats how exactly i felt when i played this game. i have this feeling some timeline is going to hit me, and i have to finish my nicely brewed coffee soon before someone takes it away kinda thingy. im more kinda layback, enjoying the content of the game kinda of guy. in the older xcom games, my happiest moment is to shut that deadline thingy (with a mod), i get to enjoy every moment in that game. But, i also know there this kind of spiking scaling mutation that pheonix has which based on the success rate of each mission AI determines to scale the enemies. the combat is get tougher and tougher eventually so many bullets are wasted in a fights, and the rewards doesnt scale. I must say this game needs some rebalancing or "tour mode" haha for my kind of taste.
I feel the same way as many other gamers about more layback playstyle! But well..game developers have other plans for us :D On the same topic I can just mention in X-Com it was possible and with quite layback style still het back/halt/reduce that 'doomsday clock', so it was possible to enjoy the game even without the mods ;) But in some ways to reassure you what where you looking for, below will be that game changing update link, look for 'Human population census' section (4th from top) and read these bullet points - I believe you will be happy to see that ;) As far as my knowledge goes, this has not been changed since then :) forums.snapshotgames.com/t/phoenix-point-v-cthulhu-1-6-30-07-2020/11075
@@MLMariss If you put a Sniper helmet on a Heavy you will get a mid-range monster with hell cannon ... get his ability to burst fire that cannon and he most likely will kill pandoran tank (Cheron?) in one burst
@@michaelk2120 I once managed to kill 1.5 Cherons in one burst with that cannon. They were standing closely and I've managed to position them both on a line of fire))
getting wounded is not that problematic.. you just need to carry a lot of medkits.. and heal first turn next battle... i think healing in base is the big waste of time... medkits heal instantly...
Yes, true - but you would need to find a balance there..later in game you will need a lot of Materials, and I mean A LOT. So wasting quite significant amount for Medkits..you could avoid? ;)
MadLad detector went wild :D But I guess when the game is familiarized, then harder difficulty is required.. I guess you mastered it! I bow to you, master!
I strongly disagree with not having multiple training centres early on. Levelling is far faster at base than actually fighting constantly. It makes sense to make your first base a training centre with at least 5. Dump all your spare recruits here until you have enough for a second aircraft. You can always demolish some when you need space for other buildings.
Point 11 is flawed. Some of the missions to attack other factions are required to advance the diplomacy which will not advance until you complete it. Frankly it is better to choose a faction you don't want to stay friendly with to max out the others. This allows you to raid them for aircraft, resources and research from the one you ate not friendly with. In the early game, stealing aircraft saves a fortune in time and resources. Furthermore, late game you will have no more sites to scavenge, so raiding and trading is vital. It is highly unlikely you will get above 75% with all 3. I am 100% with Anu and Synedrion but New Jericho is at war with me and the other factions, as they are by far the most aggressive faction.
Point 18, do NOT bother with New Jericho's vehicle as it's weapon is useless compared to the Phoenix version. Also the Mutogs from Anu whilst referred to as vehicles are actually monsters under your control. But they are very buggy, avoid until patched.
You can trade and recruit even when at war with a faction as it depends on your relationship with the particular Haven. I am at War with New Jericho, raided a haven repeatedly for research and can still trade with them.
Point 25. Another point on aiming, when using rage shot, make sure you manually aim at the centre of the mob, as they flinch after being hit, which can mean all the other shots miss.
hey what is your creator tag on epic store? U convinced me to buy it but i can't find this information. if you see this please respond within 2 hours I am gonna buy it now....
Sorry, missed - I'm on different time zone :D If you like tactical games - you will be happy to try it out! Especially with the first update and fixed things, it's something I will recommend for sure ;) Happy hunting!
Be aware that answer somewhat counts as spoiler ;) But before that - the mist and base works another way around: the mist spreads all the time and where it is - there can pop/being discovered base. But later in the main story mission (if you choose such approach) you can go the route to fight against mist and you'll be able to research and build in bases another facility, that is called Mist Repellant or something like that - then from that base in specific radius around mist will be pushed 'away' and will never come back. Being said that - no, you cannot fight back mist - everything that is outside of that base/facility radius will be taken over. BUT if you build those repellants in every base (and friendly factions will also build them sometimes in their bases) then you will have quite good coverage of the area where mist is pushed back :) I hope that answers your question ;)
@@MLMariss Thank you! It does, I'm not sure how far in the story I am, I rescued some guy's research very recently and I've been winning almost every fight I'm in but I'm finding it hard to judge if I'm failing miserably or even breaking even.
I'm not sure having 250 shared skill points available proves you are building your soldiers to their full potential...just asking what good those points are doing you unused?
No, it is not enough for sure! ;) I've spent all of them on my 'dream team' (6 soldiers) and it was enough to pick second class and it's perks, but there are still missing 8 points in Willpower which would be enormous help for sure ;) And no - there is no good use collect them..I just had not decided yet what to do with them, where/how I want to spend.. ;)
Multiple bases - absolutely, as soon as possible to boost up research and production and all. With teams..yes to cover the world events better, but one thing need to keep in mind - if you participate in all events (while having more teams) the game time will progress really slowly. By that I mean - each combat fought will eventually turn into boring repetitive stuff you have to do ;)
Yea, true - that time pressure was not nice :D But from the start to end and especially when now you keep generating points for soldiers in combat it will take a LOT of combats that will more and more repeat themselves. But yea - as long as it's not getting boring - this challenge is for all the games :D
Is the game THAT much changed? I mean..the video was made at the beginning and I know these difficulty levels had some major overhaul over the period of time..so honestly I cannot say how the game is at the moment as I haven't played it for quite some time..but hey, thanks for letting us know ;)
steal your ships dont build and hopefully get a mission early to retrieve vehicle so you dont need to build. i havnt tried this but it should work, as a fast reaction force get 2 Synedrion ships and fill with 7 soldiers and 1 vehicle and keep them together always and use these for haven defence. from DLC 2 its about keeping your population alive and not Mist, you dont wont havens to die especially when they get attacked on opposite side of the world. if you can get a base up and running with, med bay, living quarters, and training facility. also area scanning works differently from DLC 2 onwards
Yup, game has changed quite a lot, many things with it. I'm just still not convinced about that ship stealing - such approach was viable also before, BUT that sacrifices relationships and postpone special soldier class skills.
@@MLMariss Yep ship stealing is the way to go, 3 ships plus manticore. 3 ships were all stolen even from allied faction. watched someone do this awhile ago and makes sense, trust me iam struggling for materials and hardly built upgraded weaponry yet have 7 bases all with mist and scans stuff and only a couple set for crew stationing. the 3 ships would cost so much resources that i dont have and i do all haven defenses i can and still need resources. opening some new bases might give me more sites to explore but other then missions i might only have 3 that i can see though their are areas that need a base scan
But how about the reputation lost when stealing? The setback in relationships? Technology lost and you do know that you get 1k each(!) resource when you max out relationships with factions, right?
Best way to enjoy Phoenix point. Well I bought it, enjoyed it, encountered Sirens, time passed, and now I hate the game with a burning vengeance. They should be heavilt armored nd be able to MC 1 person ONLY, OR have them MC multiple units but have no armor. Being heavily armored tanks and MC your whole team, that put me over the edge. It's the ONLY thing in the entire game I don't like and its enough to drive me away, such a poorly designed unit.
I feel you! And I'm happy to say - Mind Control now has a bit more balance adding 1AP cost to you AND for Sirens as well ;) They are finding and fine tuning the game now, so in some time it should be less frustrating :)
Damn it! I knew the day will come :( BUT from other hand I'm happy to hear they have improved (hopefully) the gameplay! Thanks for letting me (and others) know.
I have tried to replay the game now after all this time, but somehow cannot gather strength enough to push it through. Once you have seen it and how slow the gameplay it is, there is little motivation to do it again :/
@@XxDruidmancerxX No, not necessarely! This game (like many others) are cool to play through once, after that when you know how/where/what happens the replay is more like a chore. If you ask me -- I would love to play it thourhg now (fully updated and with DLCs) for the first time ever! :D That would be the blast ;)
i massively disagree with the difficulty recommendation, i am in no way good at these types of games. I only got into them about 2 years ago with xcom EU and then EW and 2/wotc after i got addicted. I never beat any on legend or ironman of any difficulty and save scummed quite often. Despite this i find this game very easy on hero difficulty even when i have 4 or so sirens on the map and never feel too overwhelmed. To tell the truth my heavy on overwatch is my worst enemy so far having shot several of my troops in the back despite having like 2 percent chance to do so xD. I think the biggest piece of advice to combat this isnt to turn the difficulty down its to approach this game very differently to xcom as it doesn't play the same at all and you just need to approach it like a whole different beast.
Very good point - especially last part, as I have all X-Com experience and if played in similar style, then the problems begin to emerge! I don't know if I would suggest and play on Hero, as that seems to complicate mostly beginning with lack of soldiers and resources. Mid game feels balancing it all out a bit. And thank you for your comment - everyone can take this in consideration when choosing their difficulty level :)
@@MLMariss One thing players really need to be thinking about when it comes to this game is body parts. Its a very unique system that can be taken advantage of massively. The difference between the players that master this game and those that find themselves losing frequently even early on or on low difficulty is likely due to not using this system to its fullest. A good example of this would be the siren enemy, a formidabble foe that turns up fairly early and has enough HP that it can be a real nasty suprise. However, taking advantage of the body part system you realise that by disabling the head it will drain -30 will (its entire will pool) leaving it panicked and unable to mindcontrol aswell as disabling its scream that panicks soldiers, this leaves the siren almost useless for a turn while its panicked making for easy pickings in the coming turns. This is just one of many applications and i think that this system is likely one of the most crucial systems to understand in order to master this game, as well as understanding how will effects enemies, not just your own soldiers.
@@jacobely6826 Well i use the Bodypart System and have already problems on rookie xD knowing i have to take down a sirens head doesnt help me if they spawn on the opposite of the map with full vision on my team and only my snipers beeing barely able to hit em. my Heavys are such a bad shot, they miss 95% of the time on anything that's farther away than point blank... (there is a 2mm space in the outer circle that's not the enemy? bullet goes there) Well Sirens aren't the main issue for me as that would be the charons.... Attacking every round as soon as the enemy sees me, shooting across the whole map while having enough armor/hp on their "weakspot" that i would need my whole team to hit it just to kill one -_- Not to mention that cover is almost useless as it just blasts the everything away i try to hide behind.... Guess i have to rush vehicles or different heavy weapons next play attempt
hmm, i always found the chirons to be fairly weak due to most variants just throwing lttle shitty bugs, and they are such a big target that return fire almost always procs on every one of my soldiers that has it (which is usually 2/3rds of my crew) aswell as the fact that by the time chirons come about even my heavies are sniping with that hell cannon. One thing i should mention which you may or may not have already done is ditch the heavy armour for sniper armour. This is because whilst heavy armour is hella protective, it doesnt make up for the huge movement and accuracy penalty. Because of this you should immediately put your heavies in banshee armour as that gives +30 percent accuracy which when you factor in that your heavy was operating at -30 percent and is now at +30 percent, you have just increased heavy accuracy by 60 percent. Furthermore make sure to level your heavies speed, alot of the heavies early abilities are... well... shit. I find warcry and bash damage to be incredibly situational and even still kinda weak. This means you should be dumping alot of ur early points until you get multi class into speed (i manage to get them to about 20 speed) which makes them hugely efficient. Next make sure you take advantage of multi class as its insanely powerful. Heavy cant hit for shit? Assault heavy can now dash right in there and make quick work of all those pesky sirens. Sniper got shitty damage output? Heavy sniper now hurls his entire clip into that damned chiron one shotting the beast! Also make sure not to get a full crew of 6 too quickly, 6 level 2's are good but not good enough to combat the bump in enemy strength that comes with it. Once you get to 6 people sirens will come rather quickly and chirons soon after, i usually get my 5th at lvl 3's and 6th when my guys are all multi classed. Hope any of this helps but honestly you should ditch that golem armour if you havent already, it real bad.
@@jacobely6826 get my 6th? I start with 6 soldiers on rookie 2 sniper/1heavy/3assault. Yea i rushed banshee for my heavy and after that 3 more helmets for my assaults... They still barely hit the broadside of a barn (except for one of my snipers who somehow inherited all the talent of my crew... Headshoting bugs across the map with a pistol , despite having an inner aiming circle that is double the size of that mutant... Sadly she cant take all the others round energy for herself too , to do all alone 😂 What kind of worms do your chirons throw? Mine only got acid and boom so far, either stripping my hit soldiers of their gear by destroying it first hit or directly blasting rm into pieces 😰. Dont have the last 2 soldier skills yet (except for snipergirl who just misses her ult)
Haha - good one! :D Yes, this game is coming from one of original X-Com creators ;) It is..something a bit different, but very familiar to X-Com! You should check it out if you are X-Com fan ;) Phoenix Point :)
I need to swallow my pride and agree with most of your points. I have failed and restarted many times. This game is punishing indeed.
Thank you for the comment! I'm just recently restarted the whole game from scratch as there where so many updates and also the difficulty level changes so players are not unnecessarily punished :D But it's hard to tell yet, how developers managed to achieve it or not :D Together we can overcome these difficulties and fight the Pandorans! Happy hunting ;)
You can however make the mindcontrolled guys trade their gear to one of your characters, so this means mind control someone with the guns you want and boom gear.
This is invaluable information! You, my fellow gamer, are legend! I'm wondering..just theoretically if you would attack factions (on faction threshold missions) and mindcontrol them all..and take away their weapons..would that mean 100% weapon 'drop' chance from enemies?? And the same of course for aliens..
@@MLMariss maybe I only learned that you could do that yesterday so perhaps?
This is no longer possible. However, you can still do it by walking up to a crate with the mindcontrolled guy, which opens up the inventory automatically.
@@Roonayynice, gonna try this
@@Mizzle420420 I think they might have patched it out, but I don't remember. Haven't played in a while.
Probaly the best Game review I have ever watched. No real opinion just mechanics, good job thanks
Thank you - trying my best to improve gaming quality for others! :)
Thanks for taking the time of putting this together. Some of your tips are very insightful, and all of them, are very useful.
Glad it was helpful and thank you for your kind words!
Thank you for this I depth guide! I ha ent even touched cyberpunk yet I’ve been playing this game and having fun
Same dude.
Heh, some great choices made here I see :) Good luck and have fun both of you ;)
MLMariss, at first I was like, oh God, not another video where someone is trying to speak English!!! But I was curious about getting new pointers on the game and watched the entire video. It didn't take long at all for me to clearly understand everything you said. I was patient and very attentive to your accent. I applaud you for quickly trying your best to follow up with an example of what you are trying to say and teach everyone. I must say, there are so many parts where the video is funny and entertaining in a good way. The pointers (tips) were EXCELLENT!!! I learned a lot and there's more than enough info here to give everyone a hell of a good start to finish the game! It's rare that I write any comments, but I wanted to write and say thanks for the awesome video & tips.
Sincerely,
Cool Breeze
XCom 1&2 5 Star General... Soon to be a 5 Star General on this game too. ')
еще раз спасибо!
This is absolute honor to receive such a comment from X-Com general like you! :)
Thank you so much and this lightens up my day and gives me positive energy to continue my work!!
Happy hunting!
Strangely, nobody mentioned using medkits at the and of the mission! Usually we all put at least one medkit on every soldier. Before you kill last buggie heal the team with medkits. Medkits are cheap and will replenish instantly, healing time is not cheap at all! I do not do that only if I have to go to base for resting, so the healing will be simultaneously. More to this, I think there is no need for more than one medbay per base.
Heh, just commented similar comment on this :D Yes, that is the way to do it - just, remember, even if cheap, those medkits still cost you materials and tech. If you go too much healing - you will find yourself running out or resources.
And another thing - I use medkits only if heavily wounded (less than 50% HP) and/or heavy bleeding effects in the middle of battle, but I totally ignore small injuries, because Stamina and exhaustion is the main reason you will still bring your soldiers back to base.
Small bonus tip - stamina and health replenishment does not intervene with each other, meaning - small injuries will be healed while your soldiers get back full stamina, this - purely ignoring (and of course - not getting shot in the first place) are pretty good tactics too ;)
Unless the wounded character is a Berserker who gets speed and damage bufs for not being at 100% health =)
Thanks very much, very useful for a beginner who's played a bit but wants to get some deeper understanding!
Happy to help! The game is pretty intensive of new information and mechanics, but also I need to mention - keep in mind the video was made when game came out, there are few mechanics the changed quite a bit - the Acid comes in my mind for example! ;)
Eh, time to re-start my campaign.. Thanks for such an informative video!
tip: raid factions you want to get what you want, then defend them against pandorians, to increase good attitude. of course keep an eye on % of attitude.
This tip comes handy especially with maxed reputation factions, but would not recommend it before you get all the benefits from them ;)
@@MLMariss yep. regards
thanks for this i backed the game and kinda forgot about it lol . so i am starting now some of this i know but some of it was a kick to the face . like how did i not get that . thanks for the tips my dude especially the willpower tip i did not know the willpower nodes on the map went to all party members .
Glad I could help and thank you for backing up this game - thanks to you and people like you we have it! :)
Watching videos about this game that I am about to play excites and scares the hell out of me. I have never played a game like this. It sounds like a combination of age of empires and the board game risk on steroids. 40 years of video games and I might have just met my match
Heh, do it! :D It's worth it!
This video is great man. I appreciate content like this!
Happy to help!
I watched it till the end. I am absolute legend. Thank you thank you
No argument there! :D Title well earned ;)
Thank you for such an informative video. I have only just picked up the game in the Steam sale. Dont know how I missed it, as I am a big fan of the original XCom games. The tips about using Will are great. This game keeps calling me back to have another go. Dont get many games like that. I have played ten hours and really enjoying it. I did watch your video to the end!
Glad I could help! Also i need to warn that video is a bit outdated as game has changed quite a lot in this time, but you should be able to get some useful tips out of it anyways ;)
As one X-Com fan to another I can tell you right away - you will love the aiming system in the game (if you don't already :D ) that is a huge improvement and changes so many things and frustrations we had in X-Com..you know what I'm talking about :D
Have fun and happy hunting ;)
2% mortality rate, but you have red all over?
I'm 45% and have that much red all over.
Turns out that the devs intentionally not tell you how nests and lairs work. If you do not participate and succeed in a haven defense, the nest/lair will never pop up on the map, nor can be scanned before the haven gets attacked. If you see a haven get destroyed, there's a nest nearby and you should scan near it to spot it. Havens actually actively attack nests, it just doesn't appear that way, maybe not shown on purpose.
The moment a haven gets attacked within the span of a few 'ingame hours' (the same way your bases get attacked, you get alerted), the nest/lair/citadel spawns in that instant and you will never notice because scans are not passive, but active manually.
I have a theory, that behind the global map, that havens actively are attacking nests as they appear, rendering them unable to defend themselves, and nests appear rapidly and commonly over time, just being erased as fast as they spawn. Then you have havens being taken out and nests spreading while out of sight, hence the red mists.
The rule is that nests must be created in a mist, but the mist does not disappear when a nest is destroyed.
It is ABSOLUTELY vital that you get a mist repeller technology as early as possible, probably from stealing but you might only steal what they actively research.
It took several ingame 'months' before the ingame factions starts researching useful things. I think the ingame factions has the baseline 'research and fabrication' facilities that the player has, and the more 'research facility' are built, the faster they learn new tech for you to share or steal. The problem, is that as they advance, other factions starts hating them, and hence closer to warfare between one another.
Oh, yes - you are absolutely correct on so many things! :D I've spent so many game time already and also just discussing with my brother we came to the same conclusions about nest spawning and how you need to defend them to reveal their location! And nothing of that is mentioned anywhere in the game!!!
I don't have the repeller technology yet, but I do defend everyone and clear out nests as soon as I got their locations! That's how I managed to get only 2% mortality rate with so much mist :D
Thank you for all this valuable information - I hope others are also reading it, because it's crucial! Thank you a lot and happy hunting ;)
@@MLMariss Mortality rate? It's the Oneiric Delirium Index not the mortality rate. The idea is that alien nests propagate a signal that turns humans insane.
I know, I know - I shouldn't call it likt that! For me to pronounce those names is too hard :D It's the same idea as in X-Com where it's aliens progress bar, when it goes full - they win, we lose :)
My apologies for this confusion and misuse of totally different term!
Thank u for taking time to giving ur Tipps and share your expirience.. im quite bad and play on Veteran level and... i dont had the courage to acept that the lowest Dificulty maybe is the right start. but its one of ur first tipps and after hearing the others i sense a quite trace of pure unrefined expirience.
so im starting again and maybe get more to see than dying soldiers in the first salvadge site, that tantrums a whole of other Problems afterwards =D
Happy to help! And I need to update this particular Tip - developers heard the community and in few updates already updated the difficulty settings making it more viable to play harder versions. At the moment I've started Veteran from scratch and it doesn't seem as punishing as it was at the game release time.. Just mentioning it here - this one Tip is something developers worked on! :)
FYI, you can leave a rifle on him and he will return fire with it if you equip it before ending the turn.
But I don't like to load my teams down like that for most groups, but maybe not bad for a spacific non-retrieval team
Very true - but that leaves it for interpretation! I recall once setting up the trap for enemy and the they never came and I lost half of the day 'playing safe and smart' :D Oh damn I was furious :D
Excellent info... The game is too confusing without help like this
Happy to help! And yes..game holds back so much valuable info..for unknown reason! :D
*_On Veteran, I am getting my butt bruised, but not beaten horribly, so far._** Good tips you offer. Thanks.*
Happy to hear! Game has changed quite a lot, the start was rough :D
Dude brilliant video! The tips have been super helpful so thank you!
Happy to help and thank you for your kind words ;)
Greatly appreciate the guidelines. Some of these things were not known to me and will help me greatly!
Also, have a sub' friend. You deserve it ^_^
Many thanks for the support and kind words, highly appreciated ;) I'm glad I could shed some more light in this game tactics! :)
This video was really helpful for me! Thanks a lot! Keep going with videos!
I'm happy to help and thank you for kind words!
Spot on m8, brilliant guide. I was sick of getting whooped at this game🤣
Glad I could help
Playing on veteran. I have found that I have more success playing very aggressively. Approach under cover to close range as best possible and take off arms and pincers, etc...
I bet that was the reasons why I failed miserably when tried to play cautious and slow! This is worth checking out - thank you!
@@MLMariss You are welcome. I found that playing cautious and slow gave the enemy more rounds to fire and more opportunities to use their actions overall (ie: shots, abilities, etc...) chances per round. Close in and cut off their limbs and heads quick! 8)
I learn alot from you from 30 tip guide
I'm happy to help ;) And happy hunting!
The length is cool, if the info is good. Good Job.
(Only thing that could be better would be to label the topics in the progress bar - becomes even handier when the video is longer)
Watched all the way til the end! Thank you for your great tips. Very interesting and informative.
Awesome, thank you!
Also I need to mention - game has patched/changed quite a lot, so some things might be outdated - just use with cautions ;)
TY great vid actually watched it till the end. You obviously understand the game pretty well but I have to disagree about the training center. You should build at least 5-6 at your first base and the rest like you said fabrication plants, research, food, etc... For a functional base all you need is medbay and living quarters and your soldiers can rest and heal, I suggest 2 med bays for fast heals. So any new recruit goes to the main base and after a few days there you can have a lvl 7 soldier ready to deploy anywhere. Also you can steal aircraft, I know it's -20 with that faction but in most playthrough it shouldn't be a problem.
Great comment, thanks for support too! For training facilities I agree - the benefit is great!
The issue in the first base I have is 1) limited space..where if you struggle to find next bases fast..you will fill those empty slots with all other facilities. 2) other problem at the beginning is electricity - you'll find yourself in the situation where 2 spots left and electricity only for 1 facility, where there is no point of making +1 power facility if there are no space left! and 3) issue is..where you start, you will clear out everything around you..thus making that area quite empty for you, thus making that base further away from the action. So in that sense it is smarter to get some 3rd, 4th base you find..which is quite empty..then fill with the training center for your new soldiers..
So that is currently the course of action I changed myself and many thanks for pointing this out ;) Together we will not only survive but thrive! :)
@@MLMarissMy fav X-com was Apocalypse, I played it for a few years and completed it 3-4 times. This game took a lot from that and modernized, and simplified it's nowhere close to the complexity of X-com Apocalypse but much better than Firaxis XCOM 1 and 2.
Now about your points.
1. It's very easy to find new bases fast in this game, I might be mistaken but it looks to me that they are roughly at the same place every playthrough and even if not they're still easy to find, at least 1. The game even tells you where to look.
2. So 1 slot in the base will be empty not that big of a deal.
3. I said that you should only bring the new recruits to this base just for a few days and than after they get lvl 7 send them wherever you want.
IMO you should do gameplay\walkthrough with commentary I'll watch that, didn't like the 1 without.
I love this game and going to play it the next few years.
Im gonna put it this way if you lose a specialized base due to a pandoran attack it hurts alot nom of my ships were near my training base and my recruits couldn't handel the fight lost the base mind you this was my first run of game so i was missing alot
Oh, my - Apocalypse was/is still one of the best X-Com series and one of my favourites too! I'm not gonna lie - I also enjoyed X-Com2 quite a lot, but oh, yes..whole city defense, alien ship fights, landings, investigating crash sites, keeping all the organizations happy..oh boy, that game set quite high bar! :)
I haven't finished my first playthrough, but I'll keep in mind to look for bases in the same spot! :D
And for anyone who has any difficulty with the game - you came to the right place! not only for videos - but for such a great helps in comment section ;)
@@MLMariss Not the same spot and not always but same parts of the world in most playthroughs I watched and now on my second playthrough found the first 2 very fast. Also looks like you always get 1 from the 50% synedrion mission, called something like Would be pirate king. This time was able to get to 50% with all the factions. Just need to get lucky with heaven defences and destroy nests and laires strategically for the all factions bump.
Great videos. Thank you.
Happy to help - one thing to mention - keep in mind the video was made when game was released, now there are some balances and changes that will make some of the tips invalid ;)
@@MLMariss Absolutely, but they helped a noob so thank you again!
Oh and a hack for restoring health without returning to base ... you can start/end your mission with use of medkits. With hitpoints restored before mission ends and body parts after the mission, your soldiers are as good as new ...
With one additional note here - Medkits cost resources to manufacture. Not a lot, but if you get too lazy and heal everyone in all the fights - I feel you will run into depleting your resources ;) But another amazing tip to prolong your fighting spree!
Also later on i find about half my guys are fully encumbered when u got a heavy lugging around his hell cannon deceptor mg and pythagoras viii so he can kill anything anywhere anyhow
Heh, I love this endgame content - where destroying things (and enemies) is part of every turn..especially when heavy annihilate them :D
thanks, great video!
You're welcome!
Would be interesting if someone always play in 'slow' mode and try to manage multiple aircrafts at the start to keep everything efficient.
Time pauses when you pull up any of the other menus other than haven menus though.
I build/steal a 2nd aircraft as soon as I can. The second ship can just be a recruiting/merchant ship. if nothing else.
Great content! I'm restating my game
Thank you! I have started it again as well - upon popular request :D
I am quite impressed how it's fine tuned and improved now ;)
While there is 21 possible class variations, there are actually more ways to use them if you count the random perks. The random perks is way more important in the late game since its the best way to increase damage with the same equipment.
I had a Assault Sniper with Strongman perk. In base defense mission using quickaim+ rapid clearance he single handedly cleared 70% of the mobs in the first turn with the Deceptor minigun.
Keep recruiting rookies till you find the best perk combination.
By the way, stealth has the strongest one shot damaged. Even minigun or shotgun will not break your stealth if you are far away. Ex: with 80 stealth they will not see you if you are more than 2 tiles away. Unless some enemies have more perception
Thank you for mentioning this! And so much YES!
Minor SPOILER ALERT for those who are still in early game..
But if you count in also mutations..which also somewhat not only change gameplay but also give some more abilities to use..? Then that number 21 goes up even more!
And that stresses me out as I want to test them all xD
Mariss the mutation feel like a small buff for your soldier in the late game/ faster cheaper way to have armor rather than pure gameplay changes like the class system. I think it is comparable to a new armor system since it also stop you from using mounted slots. The active abilities are lackluster. Like the Psychic scream, it cost 3AP + some WP for a mid range aoe. Using that much AP, I rather shotgun them in the face. The passive boost is actually good though.
Oh, yea I was looking at the regen part for example - that could replace medkits entirely! Small damage in battle? No problem, any next battle and you are healed back to max.. :)
Very true about the shooting in face :D I find this part of game a bit annoying - where there is vague explanation of ability that comes with mutation or the same abilities from the spec - but there is not mention AP or WP cost..
Thank you for commenting and giving us more info! :)
i had an assault infiltrator singlehandedly do a base defence in the first turn with rapid clearance free reload and a shotgun xD just dash to where u need to go!
Dash is amazing - hands down there! And Rapid Clearance? Yes, please! :D
Excellent run through. Thanks and subbed.
Thanks, Marris and bless you for a real review those are hard to get by nowdays xD so glad I watched it bf I start playing this game lol
Happy to help and thank you for your kind words! 😉
one last tip for everyone. Berserker class is the Siren Killer. A combination of shred armor ability (on level 2 next attack would remove 50 armor at cost of 4 willpower) with mind control immunity (level 6 ... I think the ability name is Adrenaline Rush) is lethal for those snakes.
Cross-train the Berserker with Assault, give him a shotgun, put this beast in the path of the Siren and he will shave ALL armor from almost all body parts of that snake BEFORE dealing 200-300 points of damage on overwatch. With armor and psychic powers removed Siren threat level drops to just above Mind Frager. Two such Assult Berserkers might kill that thing on overwatch.
P.S. The Doctor class (Anu psyc attacker) also have group psych immunity ability on level 6 or 7 ...
We have another absolute legend here - thank you so much for this info!
Otherwise it would take me years to train and test every single class myself! :D How about Berserker combo with Infiltrator for the same effect but 2x the damage..?
@@MLMariss My Infiltrators don't like to come at shotgun range with their targets because they may end up revealed and cloaking again is costly.
Besides Berserker/Infiltrator class doesn't have shotgun profficiency naturally.
Honeslty, once you realise that the head of the siren causes -30 will drain and has ok but not that great health and armour it becomes fairly easy overall. The menace of the siren is at the start when you simply dont have the accuracy or damage to precision the face off in my opinion
Exactly - that was also one of update fixes - that NOW tooltip actually says that Mindcontrol ability will be lost when head is destroyed..which is a great help to disable Sirens! :)
And I'm also not a big fan of close combat quarters, but hey - that's another option to play around ;)
Trade:
Anu - 2 Tech = 12 Food,
Anu, NJ - 4 Food = 6 MAT(18 Mat)
Syn. - 8 MAT = 2 TECH
This way you can win 4,25 TECH for 2 TECH. Sad, there is no way to win Tech & Mat thanks Base facilities...
Weapons and Armours are very expensive and I do not mention about Planes & Soldiers.
This game doesn't let you lose a single soldier, so that you can without issue continue...that is the biggest problem.
If I'm wrong, I'd love to hear it ;) BTW nice Tips, THUMB UP! 1k ;)
Daaaamn - that's one hell of a best trading tip right there! o.O Thank you for this!!
I haven't played the game for a while, but wasn't there an Ironmode or something in difficulty that let you lose people? :D If I understand the questions right :)
@@MLMariss I did misspeak it xD
I mean, it’s very hurt to lose one of our Soldiers ;/
Here's a fun tip. If you evac from a haven defense after killing a few enemies but did not complete it, it counts as mission failed but not really screw you over.
You retain everything you had, but all injuries are healed meaning you can go back in and use medkits to heal up. Each time you 'go into' a battle the map layout and enemies randomizes, so if you have a 'Scylla' boss or 3 Sirens, just exit and come back and maybe it'll change to something else. Only the leader of the haven hates you for leaving, BUT time does not pass!
You can technically farm infinite XP this way by killing enemies and possibly looting (grab items from a nearby box and then evac), maybe item boxes resets?
Wow, that sounds like a nice exploit :D Only question for me would be - what changes if faction leader is angry at you..? Does it influence reputation gain to that faction? Or some complications in missions? Or..that could be absolute/ultimate soldier training option?! :D Thank you for sharing this idea! ;)
Great info as usual 😎
You absolute legend and long term supporter :) Thank you Septic for being so awesome and great person! ;)
@@MLMariss Greatly appreciate your efforts 👍
Awesome! Thanks for this video, it really helps :)
My one tip:
No matter the tips viewed, by this gentleman or other people, play a playthrough for worst. Yes its going to be worst. Mistakes will be made. Order of operations needs to be learned as well as the priorities the tip dealers are doling out. All of what they say is 100% of value but they are pros and know the rng better then the game. Therefore it will not run as smoothly for you on Veteren as it does for them on Legendary. Ie. Stealing ANY ship ASAP (difficult AF 😅)
Most of all....your 1st playthrough youll realize is still just a stone skipping off a lake. So much more, so many more paths and options
I most cases I would agree to have a 'test run' or worst playthrough as you called it! The main challange for that will be to gather your energy to do it...on...more....time! :D I've played it when it came out, with a LOT of quality of life improvements missing, misbalance, none of the DLCs, and it was quite the journey (tedious, but journey nevertheless)! So now I can't even gather strength to go back and start over all again, yet again with 'test run' scenario that will be exact same game (patches, DLCs, etc) 2 times in a row? I wish you the strength :)
Great video, thank you.
Glad you liked it!
I watched the video to the end. Now everything seems so simple ... :) Best wishes for the New Year from Russia :)
Happy New Year to you too! ;)
good video explaining mechanics.
Glad you liked it!
Awesome, watched it all - cool advise.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Really great, mate! Super clear and detailed list of tips. Much appreciated 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. a lot of good info. Thank you.
Fantastic video, very helpful thank you very much
Glad it was helpful! ;)
Pandoran base attack difficulty works as you said, but not really. Read the research on pandoran colonies, it says clearly that TWO lower level bases (I think in game called Spawning Caves) MERGE into a Citadel (that is the harder mission with the creature at the opposite end of the base to kill).
There are Nest, Lair and Citadel in corresponding difficulties. Nest will have mist generating towers, Lair will have Spawneries and Citadel..I have not encountered yet - but yes, by following info we have it should be something upgrading/evolving from previous bases if left alone and not eradicated. I just don't think Nests can merge into Citadel, you need to have 2 Lairs then..? I'm not saying for sure, as I haven't figured this out yet ;) Any addition info is highly appreciated here :D
Sorry, but there are a few things you missed, like the fact that enemies also have willpower. drop willpower to 0 and they out of the game for a turn. This brings to the point of Viral Weapons, and the Biochemist perk that turn ANY weapon/attack into Viral Weapon. Viral Weapon infects and do damage to willpower each turn FOR EVERY PROJECTILE HITTING THE TARGET. What I do is take an assault with that perk, give him a shotgun (preferably the Anu one) and put that assault front and center of Cheron (the artillery unit).
Result:
That shotgun shot most likely will take the head off (-20 willpower on the spot plus bleed damage), make two of them and that tank has 16-20 viral infection points on that tank, taking it out of the game for 11-15 TURNS
This is even more important during Pandoran base assault. The enemy's spawn rate depends on number/strength of enemies on the field, so don't kill them, disable as many as you can and move ...
Trust me - I know there is not everything :D Video is already long and people are always complaining that I pack too much in them :D
But yes, very good point - best for assault weapons as they shoot in burst and shotgun effect I had been wondering - thank you for commenting and confirming my thoughts!
Virus affection works like acid/fire - takes affect every turn and loses it's impact as well turn by turn until disappears if not killing the victim first.
You know, i had this one setup that was great for grouped enemies. Deceptor mg heavy with biochemist and rage burst.... firing 60 bullets that all do virus damage into a crows is fucking glorious if also a little situational, but biochemist as a whole is great on the Deceptor MG
Oh, damn - yes! every assault rifle and also shotguns pull off some great combo with Biochemist, but Deceptor - the best! The only thing - I believe everyone should be dead in that..direction after Rage Burst :D
extremly helpfull Tips and tricks thanks so much !
Happy to help - and be sure to browse in comment section too - there are some absolutely amazing addition tips from other great players! :)
Don't save scum... unless you make a bad decision...
Dude you can't tell people not to save scum and then describe save scumming as a tip.
People if you direly screw up, then try to live with it, either you'll fail and have to try again or you'll eventually bounce back and it will make each and every victory just that much sweeter
I will say - yes and no. These are video games where all options are available and we don't judge by the playstyle.
Especially (this is important) when the video was released (at the beginning of the game launch) it was VERY inbalanced and harder difficulties was just pure pain and suffering. Later developers finetuned and made a lot of corrections..so your comment, especially if you play the latest version of the game is kind of understandable, but doesn't go together with the initial timing and advice :) It is appreciated the thought and explanation - for sure!
Dude I wish I could meet you irl you seem like a cool bro
Heh, thank you so much for such a kind comment! Never say never ;)
Gr8 vid my man thanks so much for the tips
ive posted this on a few comments but im gonna just post it on its own so people can see it easier
Ditch heavy armour, jetpack is good and all but each piece gives -10 to accuracy which totals -30 percent. with all pieces on This detriment is not worth the added armour or the jetpack ability. Instead i suggest putting your heavy in banshee armour which has the opposite effect of +10 accuracy per piece. Effectively, switching from heavy armour to sniper aromur will give your heavies +60 percent accuracy than what they were getting
Yes, please! I believe Armor section (and analysis) will be needed for another video ;) But I'll mark the comment so everyone can read it ;) Thank you for it!
be friendly. sell food. gotcha
ding ding
manticor now selling hotdogs :D
xD mobile hotdog seller in the middle of Pandorian attack - not bad! :D
I'll raid your manticore and loot everything....hahahaha!
Tip 29 so true. I found a lair i guess i neglected and o boy. I got sad real fast
Best way to enjoy the game is not playing it until it's polished.
Heh, yes, that's one way to look at it! But in the same time - 2 days back came BIG update which changes..a lot if not most of the issues with the game..soo maybe it is now? ;)
@@MLMariss I've completely missed the update but yeah, as long as they've fixed the terrible spawn system it's worth another shot!
@@maxx21285 Don't kill them in spawning missions with direct damage, make them bleed and while they limbless bleed in a corner move to your objective. As long as there are pandorans on the map new ones are not coming in as fast
I got lucky and in Citadel assault mission where 3/4 of the spawning points ended up inaccessible. This made most of the enemies loiter in the corner, while the spawn rate was more or less one to one of my kills ... until I killed the artistry and than they spawned like 3-4 in the same turn ...
Remember that devs can't have an endless amount of units on the map at the same time, it might crash the game.
One moment they are easy then the next they take tons of damage and can one shot you. The difficulty is crazy from one mission to another.
@@michaelk2120 How about if I paralyze them instead of killing? Does it hinder the reinforcements?
I like being "are absolute legend"
Could you break down what 21 classes there are? You said 7+6+5+4 or something. What are those numbers?
Hehm can you help me out - at what timestamp is that? I'm checking the description and cannot find anything regarding this too :D
@@MLMariss 58:18
Oh, right, right, right! So there are 7 main classes and you can make 21 combinations out of them (there is a mathematic formula how to calculate that :D ) including the base (pure) 1 class soldier :) And there is mathematical term combination, not variation, because class (for example) Assault + Infiltrator is the same as Infiltrator + Assault :)
Anyways, I've spent unforgivable amount of time to explore all of those classes/combos, so you can take a look at quick overlook and see them in UA-cam:
ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=MLMariss+Phoenix+Point%3A+Multi+class+guide
No, I'm not suggesting to watch them all, also the game updated later on changed quite a lot of abilities and other aspects, so those videos are a bit outdated, just a basic info can be acquired there :)
Oh Gosh how your point about enemies Adapting hit true...
One mission to get a Musical Composition spawns
3 Chirons, 3 sirens, 4 artherons with 30 armored arm and head, 6 chameleon tritons with 20 armor full body carrying iconoclast, totaling of 16 targets, 25 if you count the worms...
That after i completed earlier missions killing 5-8 target with 1 shotgun Assault in 1round.
So the game decided to up the number and add armor so 1shotting a target becomes obsolete. Luckily I brought enough snipers to snipe their heads off and a Priest to Mind Control and steal some of their numbers.
Now what to prepare when the game adapt to mind control...
Oh boy - I felt that armor! I was literally going Jim Carry 'Oh, come on!' when encountered them and first saw heavily armored..every part of their body! :D I'm also wondering what more adaptations game have up in it's sleeves..
Link to the GIF, if someone still wonders :D media.giphy.com/media/MwOuiiTfWfWgM/giphy.gif
I fought a few aliens and just obliterated their heads, then I noticed they all now have their backs turned to me. I was like "why are they all hiding their heads?" ooooooooh
Oh, yes - those little adaptations game does to screw player and look for different tactics :D
regarding the games adopting to your actions by growing armor ...
nah that is not that ...try a scavenging mission in the mist and one far from the mist back to back. You will see that the enemies outside the mist have no armor and fraction of health of their counterparts in the mist ...
Enemies do not change their tactics, they just evolve and grow armor. It does not make your old tactics less efficient, you just need to pump more lead into them. You can cook up new tactics to address the armor or you can get a bigger ship to have more firepower. This game is all about tradeoffs, bigger ship = slower travel with longer range. You do you.
The one body part which I did not see much armor is the head. If enemy panic they don't lob grenades at you ...
Hmm..game developers themselves mention this and says the game is build to adopt..I see a point of mist battles versus non-mist battles could be a reason we see heavily armored Pandorans.. but yea, getting more lead OR getting piercing upgrades are a 'must have' at mid-late game ;)
Worth watching I picked up on afew things I didnt know, thank you.
Food production, researching non PP weaponry/armor ect.
I also heard that if you have 2 air transports, you can send both to a lair and have 16 soldiers in the fight.
Happy to help! I need to point out that game since it's release has changed..quite a LOT, so there might be few things that are relevant now..for example the same trick you are mentioning - it was not possible before, but now I'm also intrigued! :) thank you so much for sharing this ;)
@@MLMariss Have fun, im gathering my forces to tackle a lair myself.
Thank you for making this video!
The game is hard even on Easy.
If your start area has Nests nearby that spawn Arthrons equipped with machine gun arms
and/or Tritons with Sniper Rifles.... just restart your game. Unless you want pain and suffering!
You do not have to attack the Nest because they won't even show up until a bit later.
But... if your first Scavenger Mission has either of those variants you got a bad roll.
Just re-roll the start!
Question! Possible SPOILER, WARNING! Why have you delayed your containment facility?
Don't your troops get better at killing the aliens every time you capture and study them?
Thank you for the comment and support ;)
To answer your question - honestly? I didn't delay I somehow picked (unknowingly) the research in order that led me to very late stage when I finally got containment facility :D And I didn't knew at the time it will provide me bonus damage to aliens :D
I followed the research logic - do fast researches first and big ones latter, so I can start benefiting from little ones ASAP :)
SPOILER WARNING FOR THOSE IN EARLY STAGE OF GAME!
I restarted the game until I got a start without Anthrons using machine gun arms and Tritons with just pistols... not sniper rifles.
That was great but I need to figure out the timing of the transformation from Nest to Lair (both types) to Citadel?
Sorry, I'm still clueless about that transformation - but what I know for sure is - if you leave Pandorans base alone for a while - it will be abandoned! Not like it's transforming right on the same spot..dunno if there will be Citadel appearing soon somewhere else..but I'm also looking for those answers!
My understanding is the Citadel is really close to the endgame, so just passing time and allowing Pandorans to do their thing should bring that Citadel and also ending of the game - but that's just my guess :)
@@MLMariss I was not far into the game. Maybe ten or twelve hours of playing when my first Lair appeared. I had the right team built so I was able to jump jet into range of the target and take her out. Without a Siren mind controlling my heavy.
I was just happy to finally take out a Lair. The bad news? It was not long before another appeared. A much harder version. I failed to survive that one so I reloaded a save and I left it alone for a bit too long. It became a Citadel!
I don't think I was more than twenty hours into that new game. I'm sure I was nowhere near end game. That's why I was wondering how the Nest to Lair to Citadel progression works.
I wish they progressively transformed from Nests left unchallenged but that doesn't seem to be the case. Lairs and Citadels just seem to pop up from nothing.
I'm also trying to figure out if a single Area Scan will reveal everything or is it possible that multiple scans are needed? It would be a nice mechanic if that were the case especially where the mist is advancing.
Thanks again!
Sniper tritons and machine gun arthrons? thats not too deadly my friend. Started my first game and every subsequent game on hero andi frequently get machine gun armed grenade launching spitter arthrons (Poison arthons are literally awful they can one shot ur guys if ur not careful due to poison being OP) and shotgun tritons are far worse in my opinion, any oneshot weapon is dangerous. But all in al its not too hard to overcome as long as u got a heavy equipped with sniper armour cos then you can just cross map hell cannon those bad boys.
So I have revealed a large area... Found some Scavenging sites and completed some, and skipped some of them....
Question - Is there some indicator to show that Its looted already? (Other than visiting it and finding there is no mission option?)
I am constantly forgetting which sites I have already looted, and revisiting them and finding "Oops I did this already, its the one next to I I have not done yet."
I'm wondering if I understand you correctly..but let me go from start - each site at the beginning will have question mark (?), basically unknown spot. Once you have discovered it - it will 1) give you resources/question and then resources/reputation 2) be scavenge mission where you can have battle and have resources afterwards 3) ambush mission where you are being attacked and you just need to survive 4) it's a haven/neutral city and thus you gain nothing.
So from all those options - if that is 1) case the icon will change from question mark to the point - which is not worth to visit ever again.. 2) if you leave that mission it will show icon as 2 creates - that you can/should visit at some point and fight, win, get resources - then again the icon will change from creates to point 3) in this case you cannot choose - you have to fight and after fight the icon will be again - point.
In all these scenarios, once the point of interest is done - it will change icon and will be useless to ever visit again.
So that should help you figuring out if there is something to do for you or not ;)
And just to mention - just fling through the points will reveal/start nothing - they will remain as question marks - you need to search the point of interest to interact with what's there.
Right the ones I am talking about are the Scavenge missions where I have to fight a battle. Sometimes I dont have time to do it when I discover it. So plan to do it later. What I wonder is am I missing some indicator to tell if it has scavenge mission has been completed? Because sometimes going back and trying to find the one I skipped is a pain finding it.
Hmm..the finished Scavenge missions should turn their icons also to the points, thus letting you know there is nothing left! So it some site icon is not turning after clearing that area - I'd say that's a bug then! ;)
veteran make me hate this game..so now im rookie and make love the game😂
I understand you so much! And yea - gaming SHOULD be fun ;)
great vid. thanks! xD
Happy to help :)
U are best xcomer.
Thank you for your kind words! Truth to be told - I'm a BIG fan of X-Com (and such type of games)since the beginning: UFO: Enemy Unknown which was European titles for whatever reason :D So yea - you might say I am fighting for terrestrials all my life :D
@@MLMariss I played ufo as a kid as well. Didn't finish Terror from the deep. But was totally hyped when i got a copy of ufo aftermath by chance^^ a few years later in my early twenties. I think i tried afterlight and aftershock as well. At last i watched some of your Videos when i played XCOM 2 on playstation 4.
Lately i got a new PC 2 years ago and enjoying Phoenix Point...or let the game punch me in the face. XD
So the last week i searched for some tips and Tricks Videos. I watched (tried to) quiet a few different. Also play through. And brother, i freaked out how stupid other Streamers play or try to explain the game.
So what i tried to say in my first short comment is that i saw some of your XCOM 2 videos maybe 3-4 years ago.
And now i watched your tips Tricks on PP.
So it was no question for me that you are a Fan of xcom and PP. We can tell by how passionated and accurate you are explaining it (or telling your thoughts on it) to us.
So in comparisson to other Streamers or Video makers u are the best Xcom-er I know^^ thank you for your work.
I'm screwed by the turn ting.
I've played recently a similar game that doesn't have turns and I finished it without much problems.
This thing of the turns makes things way more complex to me. 😤
Absolutely! And alos makes every fight way longer than it could be!
Unfortunately there is just one game that I know which handles it good and it's an old game :D X-COM Apocalypse allowed to chose if you want to play turn based or real time combats! Such an awesome game from my childhood.
@@MLMariss there's also Alien Dark Descent. It's awesome.
Yes! Good catch. It was pretty nice, but somewhat felt a bit too punishing (scripted ambushes and the pressure of survival), but still played it quite a lot, before ditching to something less stressful :D
@@MLMariss I love that game. Partially due to the brand (I love Alien) and partially exactly for the dark, pressuring, incombent atmosphere of danger.
Thank You Kindly!
You're most welcome! ;)
Добрый день! А как у вас на карте есть несколько баз и всего 2% на полоске и много красных зон? Обычно когда я нахожу вторую базу уже 10% становится)) спасибо!
Hi, I hope it's ok if I respon in English? My Russian is a bit rusty.. :D
So there are few things how to got that: First - it's easy difficulty. Second - getting all the Pandirian bases as soon as they appear. Third - that was easier achievable on previous versions, I believe..now the game is a bit changed too much and not in players favor. Forth - to achieve that exploration must be fast as well.
I disagree with you about bases. I would recommend base facilities like this.
All bases should always have living quarters and medbay. Then you need shared about 3-4 research and fabrication plants with about 2-3 satellite uplinks. Later it is good to put in each base mist repeller. You can get by with only 1 alien containment. When you have space and resources you can build food facilities to get free resources (grow food and trade it in havens for other resources).
One specialized training base is extremely useful. You don't need to use more than 3 or 4 training centers on one base - probably second one you get. After you get bonus tech from New Jericho it makes training centers much better and you can level from 1 to 7 in no time - to finish leveling your troops you need bonus points from shred pool anyway, but basic leveling is quick this way.
Heh, everyone is touching my training facilities tip :D And yes - you described it more in detail where I failed to do that. those extra training facilities never will be in 1st or even (sometimes) 2nd base - because you will need all other facilities AND there is limited space so 4-6 training facilities will never be achievable in first bases.
Afterwards, when you have enough research/manufacture/food and other stuff - then in my 3rd or even 4th base I turned it to training base with a lot of Training facilities :) Yes, yes, I did not mention this at that point, but for mid-late game such base is really valuable - fully agree on that ;) Thanks for pointing this out!
Is it OK if I do not use bow and hammers?
You are asking the right guy - I'm not using them either, so - yes, absolutely! As long as soldier can wield any other type of weapons, you can freely choose what you want to use. And even being said that - Priest and Technician can potentially still participate without guns, if their build and other abilities can compensate that ;)
at DLC 2 legacy of the ancients food production is no longer viable, every soldier also cost 1 food per day upkeep. 20 soldiers -20 food. it hasnt been too much of a problem, best renewable resource comes from haven defence.
Can you please elaborate a bit more about the food? It's still the only resource we can grow/gain, right? What exactly changes that makes it not viable any more? I'm just in the start of playthrough once again and haven't got my hands on the technology yet :D
Guys, I have a question...is it possibly to delay the ODI (Oneiric Delirium Index) indefinitely by doing haven defense and lairs, or will it increase to 100 percent no matter what if you don't complete all the story missions?
I can't say for sure you will be able to keep it at 0, but yes, you can keep it from raising. But I also need to mention - it depends on difficulty level, I believe. On easy it can be hold around/below 10% all the time. Once you reveal all the world and can counter every attack and take down their bases - you will have ODI constant ;)
@@MLMariss I don't know if you've played Blood and Titanium, the new Phoenix Point DLC, but I thought I would share with you my findings. It now appears that he has changed the ODI into a timer where it goes up no matter what you do. I did a Lair mission, and before doing it my ODI was at 34 percent, then after completing the Lair it was still at 34 percent, even though in the original game it would have fallen to 30 percent. Doing nests only reduces it by 1 percent. I've concluded that doing Lair, Nest and Citadels on Titanium and Blood Legend difficulty is not worth it, the whole purpose of those missions was to reduce ODI and now they don't. So I'm restarting the game on Legend and will focus purely on Story and faction quests and maybe a few haven defenses to see how things go, it is shame he changed the ODI into a timer that can no longer be reduced, because I hate feeling like I'm being rushed through the game.
I have tried a little bit, but I had reports coming in for the same! They change the whole game pace and mechanics! And not in the good way..now I have little to none wish to return in the Phoenix Point.. :/
Thanks for the update and reporting!!
thank you
You're welcome
Great video. But please don't take bad about other youtubers. That is very childish and you don't need that ;)
Heh, thanks :) I'm trying not to...and will try to stay that way ;)
Im been briefly checking out the game. One question that plagues me is that does this game having any main quest time pressure like firaxis xcom game does? like if i chill out and do nothing the game scales? if so is there any mark that trigger the scaling?
Yes. The bar on the top right on the geoscape map is a countdown to full pandora virus infection. You can slow it down by destroying pandora nests discovered while scanning.
And this is the most important question you've got there! Just a brief history - in quite early stages one of the updates made game literally time limited, meaning - depending on difficulty level you have limited time to finish the game or you lose. Of course at easiest difficulties the time was quite a lot, but still finite..and yes - that is exactly the time/update when I stopped playing it.
BUT later on with a lot of community backlash they did revert the update back to previous kind of state, where if you play smart, fight back, there should not be such hard limit when the game ends (at least that was the way how it was communicated).
I hope that answers your question and gives even more than you asked for :D
@@MLMariss yup thats how exactly i felt when i played this game. i have this feeling some timeline is going to hit me, and i have to finish my nicely brewed coffee soon before someone takes it away kinda thingy. im more kinda layback, enjoying the content of the game kinda of guy. in the older xcom games, my happiest moment is to shut that deadline thingy (with a mod), i get to enjoy every moment in that game. But, i also know there this kind of spiking scaling mutation that pheonix has which based on the success rate of each mission AI determines to scale the enemies. the combat is get tougher and tougher eventually so many bullets are wasted in a fights, and the rewards doesnt scale. I must say this game needs some rebalancing or "tour mode" haha for my kind of taste.
I feel the same way as many other gamers about more layback playstyle! But well..game developers have other plans for us :D
On the same topic I can just mention in X-Com it was possible and with quite layback style still het back/halt/reduce that 'doomsday clock', so it was possible to enjoy the game even without the mods ;)
But in some ways to reassure you what where you looking for, below will be that game changing update link, look for 'Human population census' section (4th from top) and read these bullet points - I believe you will be happy to see that ;) As far as my knowledge goes, this has not been changed since then :)
forums.snapshotgames.com/t/phoenix-point-v-cthulhu-1-6-30-07-2020/11075
Although grenade launcher doesn't return fire the hell cannon does and its hilarious.
Oh, yes..and when it hits, it hit's hard! :D
Well the heavys perception is low and return fire is half perception so its basically always hits
@@MLMariss If you put a Sniper helmet on a Heavy you will get a mid-range monster with hell cannon ... get his ability to burst fire that cannon and he most likely will kill pandoran tank (Cheron?) in one burst
@@michaelk2120 I once managed to kill 1.5 Cherons in one burst with that cannon. They were standing closely and I've managed to position them both on a line of fire))
Oh, yes! Both tips are already in place and my further videos fully exploring these destroyers! :D Thank you for commenting this ;)
Yay I am legend. ;)
Apparently that's how it works now - yes, congratulations with your new title! :D ;)
getting wounded is not that problematic.. you just need to carry a lot of medkits.. and heal first turn next battle... i think healing in base is the big waste of time... medkits heal instantly...
Yes, true - but you would need to find a balance there..later in game you will need a lot of Materials, and I mean A LOT. So wasting quite significant amount for Medkits..you could avoid? ;)
Legend mode in the beginning! Everything Else is Too easy!
MadLad detector went wild :D But I guess when the game is familiarized, then harder difficulty is required.. I guess you mastered it! I bow to you, master!
I strongly disagree with not having multiple training centres early on. Levelling is far faster at base than actually fighting constantly. It makes sense to make your first base a training centre with at least 5. Dump all your spare recruits here until you have enough for a second aircraft. You can always demolish some when you need space for other buildings.
Point 11 is flawed. Some of the missions to attack other factions are required to advance the diplomacy which will not advance until you complete it. Frankly it is better to choose a faction you don't want to stay friendly with to max out the others. This allows you to raid them for aircraft, resources and research from the one you ate not friendly with. In the early game, stealing aircraft saves a fortune in time and resources. Furthermore, late game you will have no more sites to scavenge, so raiding and trading is vital.
It is highly unlikely you will get above 75% with all 3. I am 100% with Anu and Synedrion but New Jericho is at war with me and the other factions, as they are by far the most aggressive faction.
Point 16, to clarify, later tech requires 2 items to retcon
Point 18, do NOT bother with New Jericho's vehicle as it's weapon is useless compared to the Phoenix version. Also the Mutogs from Anu whilst referred to as vehicles are actually monsters under your control. But they are very buggy, avoid until patched.
You can trade and recruit even when at war with a faction as it depends on your relationship with the particular Haven. I am at War with New Jericho, raided a haven repeatedly for research and can still trade with them.
Point 25. Another point on aiming, when using rage shot, make sure you manually aim at the centre of the mob, as they flinch after being hit, which can mean all the other shots miss.
hey what is your creator tag on epic store? U convinced me to buy it but i can't find this information. if you see this please respond within 2 hours I am gonna buy it now....
nevermind. i bought it.
Sorry, missed - I'm on different time zone :D
If you like tactical games - you will be happy to try it out! Especially with the first update and fixed things, it's something I will recommend for sure ;) Happy hunting!
I've destroyed several bases but the mist keeps spreading, is there anyway to slow down or reverse the spread of the mist?
Be aware that answer somewhat counts as spoiler ;) But before that - the mist and base works another way around: the mist spreads all the time and where it is - there can pop/being discovered base. But later in the main story mission (if you choose such approach) you can go the route to fight against mist and you'll be able to research and build in bases another facility, that is called Mist Repellant or something like that - then from that base in specific radius around mist will be pushed 'away' and will never come back.
Being said that - no, you cannot fight back mist - everything that is outside of that base/facility radius will be taken over. BUT if you build those repellants in every base (and friendly factions will also build them sometimes in their bases) then you will have quite good coverage of the area where mist is pushed back :) I hope that answers your question ;)
@@MLMariss Thank you! It does, I'm not sure how far in the story I am, I rescued some guy's research very recently and I've been winning almost every fight I'm in but I'm finding it hard to judge if I'm failing miserably or even breaking even.
Heh, that is tough to understand, but form what I hear - you are doing good ;) Keep up the good work and keep the world safe as much as you can! ;)
I'm not sure having 250 shared skill points available proves you are building your soldiers to their full potential...just asking what good those points are doing you unused?
No, it is not enough for sure! ;) I've spent all of them on my 'dream team' (6 soldiers) and it was enough to pick second class and it's perks, but there are still missing 8 points in Willpower which would be enormous help for sure ;)
And no - there is no good use collect them..I just had not decided yet what to do with them, where/how I want to spend.. ;)
Awh come on we all like to hoarde points ;)
Yes, yes we do indeed! :D To be fully honest - hoarding ANYTHING :D resources, points, potions, ammo, name it - I will collect it, in any game :D
You need multiple bases and teams
Multiple bases - absolutely, as soon as possible to boost up research and production and all. With teams..yes to cover the world events better, but one thing need to keep in mind - if you participate in all events (while having more teams) the game time will progress really slowly. By that I mean - each combat fought will eventually turn into boring repetitive stuff you have to do ;)
@@MLMariss combat only boring if you done that mission before
Battle field is smaller than xcom
Xcom had time limit alot of time
Yea, true - that time pressure was not nice :D But from the start to end and especially when now you keep generating points for soldiers in combat it will take a LOT of combats that will more and more repeat themselves. But yea - as long as it's not getting boring - this challenge is for all the games :D
Veteran is the normal mode
Is the game THAT much changed? I mean..the video was made at the beginning and I know these difficulty levels had some major overhaul over the period of time..so honestly I cannot say how the game is at the moment as I haven't played it for quite some time..but hey, thanks for letting us know ;)
how to kill pure easily? man that infantry is literally walking tank!
Yes indeed they are painful to face! Acid and heavy weaponry is the key, nothing much more efficient than that.
steal your ships dont build and hopefully get a mission early to retrieve vehicle so you dont need to build. i havnt tried this but it should work, as a fast reaction force get 2 Synedrion ships and fill with 7 soldiers and 1 vehicle and keep them together always and use these for haven defence. from DLC 2 its about keeping your population alive and not Mist, you dont wont havens to die especially when they get attacked on opposite side of the world. if you can get a base up and running with, med bay, living quarters, and training facility. also area scanning works differently from DLC 2 onwards
Yup, game has changed quite a lot, many things with it. I'm just still not convinced about that ship stealing - such approach was viable also before, BUT that sacrifices relationships and postpone special soldier class skills.
@@MLMariss Yep ship stealing is the way to go, 3 ships plus manticore. 3 ships were all stolen even from allied faction. watched someone do this awhile ago and makes sense, trust me iam struggling for materials and hardly built upgraded weaponry yet have 7 bases all with mist and scans stuff and only a couple set for crew stationing. the 3 ships would cost so much resources that i dont have and i do all haven defenses i can and still need resources. opening some new bases might give me more sites to explore but other then missions i might only have 3 that i can see though their are areas that need a base scan
But how about the reputation lost when stealing? The setback in relationships? Technology lost and you do know that you get 1k each(!) resource when you max out relationships with factions, right?
@@MLMariss hasnt been an issue i think you only lose 6 points, which can be made up with a haven defense, easily have 2 allied 100%
Is your accent Russian or Turkish? I'm leaning towards Russian. But I only say that based on your physical appearance 😆
And you nailed it! Not really Russian as much, but it's close to that - Baltic accent I'd say with strong Russian influence :D
@@MLMariss very cool. I'm African, but my best friend growing up was from Russia, so I recognized the accent 😁
How do I get a second base ?
You have to find it. It is one of the ?-marks on the map.
@@jacknrdampedersen1086 Just after I asked the question, I found one ! 😄, thanks anyway mate 👍.
I'm happy to see how everyone is working together and helping each other out ;) Together we can beat those pesky Pandorans! :D
Best way to enjoy Phoenix point. Well I bought it, enjoyed it, encountered Sirens, time passed, and now I hate the game with a burning vengeance. They should be heavilt armored nd be able to MC 1 person ONLY, OR have them MC multiple units but have no armor.
Being heavily armored tanks and MC your whole team, that put me over the edge. It's the ONLY thing in the entire game I don't like and its enough to drive me away, such a poorly designed unit.
I feel you! And I'm happy to say - Mind Control now has a bit more balance adding 1AP cost to you AND for Sirens as well ;) They are finding and fine tuning the game now, so in some time it should be less frustrating :)
Some of the points are not valid anymore after the game update and scanning mechanics change
Damn it! I knew the day will come :( BUT from other hand I'm happy to hear they have improved (hopefully) the gameplay! Thanks for letting me (and others) know.
still the Equipment management, or multiple flying vehicle management could be done better.@@MLMariss
I have tried to replay the game now after all this time, but somehow cannot gather strength enough to push it through. Once you have seen it and how slow the gameplay it is, there is little motivation to do it again :/
@@MLMarissSo you dont recommend the game as much as before? After beating it, I mean.
@@XxDruidmancerxX No, not necessarely! This game (like many others) are cool to play through once, after that when you know how/where/what happens the replay is more like a chore.
If you ask me -- I would love to play it thourhg now (fully updated and with DLCs) for the first time ever! :D That would be the blast ;)
So go out there and make your entertainment good, or perhaps try cooking instead 😉
Can I try painting instead please? :D I always liked painting when I was little!
i massively disagree with the difficulty recommendation, i am in no way good at these types of games. I only got into them about 2 years ago with xcom EU and then EW and 2/wotc after i got addicted. I never beat any on legend or ironman of any difficulty and save scummed quite often. Despite this i find this game very easy on hero difficulty even when i have 4 or so sirens on the map and never feel too overwhelmed. To tell the truth my heavy on overwatch is my worst enemy so far having shot several of my troops in the back despite having like 2 percent chance to do so xD.
I think the biggest piece of advice to combat this isnt to turn the difficulty down its to approach this game very differently to xcom as it doesn't play the same at all and you just need to approach it like a whole different beast.
Very good point - especially last part, as I have all X-Com experience and if played in similar style, then the problems begin to emerge! I don't know if I would suggest and play on Hero, as that seems to complicate mostly beginning with lack of soldiers and resources. Mid game feels balancing it all out a bit.
And thank you for your comment - everyone can take this in consideration when choosing their difficulty level :)
@@MLMariss One thing players really need to be thinking about when it comes to this game is body parts. Its a very unique system that can be taken advantage of massively. The difference between the players that master this game and those that find themselves losing frequently even early on or on low difficulty is likely due to not using this system to its fullest. A good example of this would be the siren enemy, a formidabble foe that turns up fairly early and has enough HP that it can be a real nasty suprise. However, taking advantage of the body part system you realise that by disabling the head it will drain -30 will (its entire will pool) leaving it panicked and unable to mindcontrol aswell as disabling its scream that panicks soldiers, this leaves the siren almost useless for a turn while its panicked making for easy pickings in the coming turns. This is just one of many applications and i think that this system is likely one of the most crucial systems to understand in order to master this game, as well as understanding how will effects enemies, not just your own soldiers.
@@jacobely6826 Well i use the Bodypart System and have already problems on rookie xD knowing i have to take down a sirens head doesnt help me if they spawn on the opposite of the map with full vision on my team and only my snipers beeing barely able to hit em. my Heavys are such a bad shot, they miss 95% of the time on anything that's farther away than point blank... (there is a 2mm space in the outer circle that's not the enemy? bullet goes there)
Well Sirens aren't the main issue for me as that would be the charons....
Attacking every round as soon as the enemy sees me, shooting across the whole map while having enough armor/hp on their "weakspot" that i would need my whole team to hit it just to kill one -_-
Not to mention that cover is almost useless as it just blasts the everything away i try to hide behind....
Guess i have to rush vehicles or different heavy weapons next play attempt
hmm, i always found the chirons to be fairly weak due to most variants just throwing lttle shitty bugs, and they are such a big target that return fire almost always procs on every one of my soldiers that has it (which is usually 2/3rds of my crew) aswell as the fact that by the time chirons come about even my heavies are sniping with that hell cannon. One thing i should mention which you may or may not have already done is ditch the heavy armour for sniper armour. This is because whilst heavy armour is hella protective, it doesnt make up for the huge movement and accuracy penalty. Because of this you should immediately put your heavies in banshee armour as that gives +30 percent accuracy which when you factor in that your heavy was operating at -30 percent and is now at +30 percent, you have just increased heavy accuracy by 60 percent. Furthermore make sure to level your heavies speed, alot of the heavies early abilities are... well... shit. I find warcry and bash damage to be incredibly situational and even still kinda weak. This means you should be dumping alot of ur early points until you get multi class into speed (i manage to get them to about 20 speed) which makes them hugely efficient. Next make sure you take advantage of multi class as its insanely powerful. Heavy cant hit for shit? Assault heavy can now dash right in there and make quick work of all those pesky sirens. Sniper got shitty damage output? Heavy sniper now hurls his entire clip into that damned chiron one shotting the beast!
Also make sure not to get a full crew of 6 too quickly, 6 level 2's are good but not good enough to combat the bump in enemy strength that comes with it. Once you get to 6 people sirens will come rather quickly and chirons soon after, i usually get my 5th at lvl 3's and 6th when my guys are all multi classed. Hope any of this helps but honestly you should ditch that golem armour if you havent already, it real bad.
@@jacobely6826 get my 6th? I start with 6 soldiers on rookie 2 sniper/1heavy/3assault. Yea i rushed banshee for my heavy and after that 3 more helmets for my assaults... They still barely hit the broadside of a barn (except for one of my snipers who somehow inherited all the talent of my crew... Headshoting bugs across the map with a pistol , despite having an inner aiming circle that is double the size of that mutant...
Sadly she cant take all the others round energy for herself too , to do all alone 😂
What kind of worms do your chirons throw? Mine only got acid and boom so far, either stripping my hit soldiers of their gear by destroying it first hit or directly blasting rm into pieces 😰.
Dont have the last 2 soldier skills yet (except for snipergirl who just misses her ult)
whats this game?
I was going to say stupid things about how the game looks dumb
then I see its like xcom...whats is this game?
Haha - good one! :D Yes, this game is coming from one of original X-Com creators ;) It is..something a bit different, but very familiar to X-Com! You should check it out if you are X-Com fan ;) Phoenix Point :)
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