Are Smartphones Bad For Us? - SOME MORE NEWS
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- Hi. Today, we're digging into all the research around smartphone and social media use, especially among teens. Do they cause depression and alienation? Or is this all an overblown moral panic? Or... a confounding third thing, where it's a little of both?
Executive Producer - Katy Stoll
Hosted by Cody Johnston
Directed by Will Gordh
Written by Ella Yurman and David Christopher Bell
Edited by John Conway
Produced by Jonathan Harris
Associate Producer - Quincy Tucker
Post-Production Supervisor - John Conway
Researcher - Marco Siler-Gonzales
Graphics by Clint DeNisco
Head Writer - David Christopher Bell
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:51 - Is it the phones?
04:51 - Student test scores
11:38 - Spurious study
12:49 - Teen loneliness and depression
22:33 - Technology moral panics
28:33 - Maybe it's not the phones, but social media specifically
34:28 - Is social media a non-substance addiction?
40:40 - Shouldn't we regulate this stuff?
45:27 - What else could be causing teen depression? - Комедії
the "how long will it take AG1 to stop their sponsorship" experiment is reaching new marvelous heights
At this point, I believe they are keeping the sponsorship out of spite.
@@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 They get sadistic pleasure out of watching Cody visibly suffer every time he has to drink their stuff
I think they like being edgy lol
Honeslty, AG1 being so chill about Cody’s ads is the single reason I have considered trying their product.
Snake oil usually flees at max speed from even implied criticism, meanwhile AG1 is all, “oh we know it tastes like despair and pain, but it works so buy it and we will stand by it.”
Like. It is a health product, so I’m still super sus. But a few more months of Cody ads and I might finally cave and try it.
You MONSTER. Comments like these are why Cody has to keep doing his Popeye impression
"Teen suicide rates spiked around 2007" Yeah, I was a teenager then and it was a real rough time to be learning about economics for the first time, I tell you what. World was lookin uhhhhh, pretty bleak.
...has it changed? I'm asking for a friend. Who is an alien. From one of the Trappist planets. He's on his way.
true dat
Right around when UA-cam started taking off. Hm
@PhilWithCoffee its also when the worst economic depression since the great depression started but go off youtube commenter.
@@DaddyWarlocks no, tell him to stay where he is
It's almost as if this obsession of some adults to commercialize every aspect of life that leads to destroying foundational elements of community and human development (e.g., third spaces,walkable communities, etc.) to obtain social status and power (to exploit and abuse others) is terrible for society overall and needs to be destroyed.
also increasingly exploiting every human possible makes it much harder to live happy lives and socialize. The same goes for seeing genocides happen in real time and your government (whom you can't influence because your a teen) just go "yeah well... Here's more guns but be nice please". It's hard not to get depressed by that...
Democracy in OUR economy, it's not just the elites, why do they alone decide it?
I believe I watched a show about the "Decline of 3rd Spaces"
"Third Spaces" are defined as somewhere that isn't home and isn't school/ work. Third Spaces are places a person Chooses to go to. Third Spaces are gathering areas where people can exchange ideas and be in an environment where they can collaborate with other like-minded people. If your home sucks and your job sucks, where do you go to get away from those? Additionally, with the Third Spaces that are left, few are affordable. Everything is monetized. There are very few places left where you can just go to hang out without paying money to be there. Third Spaces are diminishing, are too expensive, and often inaccessible. I feel like That is more of a cause than our smartphones.
I just saw that. And my kid (well, 19 now so not a KID in the real sense but whatevs) and I were just talking about it a few months ago. It's an underrated issue.
Palaces for the People by Eric Klinenberg is a great book on this topic.
Support your public library!!! Fantastic example of one the few remaining free third spaces that I can think of. And literally just getting a library card is helpful to support their continued existence
@frimi8593 local library near me just redid their "teen" spaces and it is really cool. Really great material, bean bags, all sorts of stuff
I mean just anecdotally from my personal experience I’ve always told people “I don’t think I’m depressed because I spend all day on my phone, I think I spend all day on my phone because I’m depressed”
yeah its not uncommon that 'addictions' are symptomatic of a bigger issue. like i abused alcohol because i was depressed, but when the depression went into remission, my urge to get drunk vanished. this is also the case with some homeless people. theyre not homeless because of the drugs, being homeless turns drugs into a temporary escape, and that feeling of escape is addicting vs real life
I would argue it can be a self feedback loop but absolutely someone who has lots of screen time is probably already mentally struggling.... dissociation is easy when scrolling.
@@EpwnaExeter It definitely can be. This is my third time trying to finish this episode because I kept getting angry at the conclusions the studies were making.
In my opinion, we're not depressed because of our phones, we're depressed because we feel the weight of an unfair set of system pressing down on us even when we can't identify that it's happening.
Companies know they don't have to care about us, they just have to make sure we do not die on company time or by using their product/service.
The people who make the product, perform the service, or pay for them? Expendable numbers to most companies.
I was talking to my bf about this and this is what we said. Money has just been so tight (isn’t it for everyone) and there is so much we want to do, and just can’t afford to do any of it. It’s made us depressed, which then we look at our phones, and then we get more depressed. I noticed that during the times I am doing well in life, I look at my phone way less, it should I say I am on social media less, which to me is the main issue. I don’t think listening to an audiobook, video essay, movie, etc is necessarily bad for you vs doom scrolling.
Real af homie
Instead of a phone, I'm watching this video on a laptop computer: problem solved!
Doc said to stop drinking alcohol, I'm now snorting it 🥴👍🏽
Back to the roots ❤ this is healing
I used an AI transcription service for this one, then just printed it out and read it. feels good man
I use a Tab S7 👍 Problem solved.
@@ananousous try injecting it.
It works super well for my uncle, who's definitely still alive.
I don't think that kids and young adults are depressed because of phones. I think they're depressed because life in America has gotten harder in almost every measurable way.
It has gotten easier to get a smartphone! 😂 But otherwise yeah, in a lot of ways i agree.
I do think that is a big factor, but i also think that phones and phone games for sure are made to be addictive as possible and that will cause problems.
Everything is doom and gloom, making you want a distraction, so you turn to your phone. The phone makes it easier to see more doom and gloom 24/7, making you more desperate for escapism.
as a teenager i just want to chime in and say the conclusion of the episode is spot on. i’m lucky enough to live in a large city with a supportive IRL network of friends and teachers, but i know a lot of kids my age aren’t nearly as fortunate.
there are no good public spaces for me and my friends to just go and hang out if we wanted to. the nearest mall is miles away from all of us and requires a car (or 3 hours on public transit) ro get to. there’s nothing to do at the park except get on the swings or sit around, in which case we’ll definitely be judged by adults and possibly even be in danger if someone feels threatened by a group of black teenagers. most of the stores by our school have limitations on how many teenagers are allowed in at once. and even then we’re talking like, Whole Foods and Office Depot. not clothing stores or anything.
our group chat has effectively replaced most hangout spots simply because there is nowhere for teenagers to go that doesnt cost money or require extensive planning in advance. i have few classes with my friends, so during academically busy periods where i go straight home, i can literally go days without seeing any of them face to face. and i’m one of the fortunate ones. it’s not the phones.
If ya'll are up for the challenge, I'd suggest talking to your local park district and neighborhood groups to find ways to improve the parks. At the very least, spout off some ideas at a park board meeting & maybe it'll inspire somebody to spearhead that effort. If you do that, i recommend explicitly telling them to seek out additional feedback from teens.
You might also speak at your school board meetings or city council on this topic. And your libraries may be up for launching programs too. Heck even the cops might be into it but that wouldn't be my first choice lol.
In my experience with local government, the people running the show do actually care and want to address people's needs. They may be dumb, out of touch, or sometimes corrupt. But i think most people serve because they care about their community. I'm in a 70,000 person city though & i have no sense of big city politics.
My city council is a bit of a mixed bag & they serve conservative interests a little bit more than liberal ones, but part of the reason for that is that conservatives show up. They vote. They email. They speak at public meetings.
You're definitely lucky
I'm 19 and live in a decently rural area, and during my time in high school, I had very bad issues with loneliness. Not only did I not have anyone who was like me who I could hang out with, but the few friends I did have would often do things that I didn't care for. Even when we did things together, everyone had to plan and make sure we all had rides to a place that took an hour to get to.
I still don't know a single person in my area who's like me
Teens totally want to socialize and people make it hard for them to do so. I look young and was out playing Pokemon Go. Every time we were out playing cops would show up and ask us to leave because elderly people called the cops on us. We were in places like empty parks and in front of the library. We could see the elderly people glaring at us on their porches or windows. I was walking around my town and so man times when a kid would ride a bike whoever was on their porch would complain that the kids needed to be home. I took my kids to the park and had adults come out and say I needed to go home because parks 'are not safe' or that we were 'too loud'. The most annoying thing is once they complain to the point where kids and teens stay home these same adults go online to complain about kids never being outside like they were when they were little.
I was asked by teens to be a dungeon master for dungeons and dragons. Seeing as how I have a teenager who was in the group I said okay... I am not kidding once the kids started more and more joined so now I have two separate groups of eight kids and more keep wanting to join (sadly I had to turn them away because I can't handle more kids or more groups I work full time). These kids always come in super happy showing me artwork they did, making up stories of NPCs they met, making jokes about what happened, and more. Teens do want to hang out with each other it is that society has made it so hard for them. I bet they feel like no matter what they do they are not sure if they are doing it right.
I'm so happy that most of the old people who used to live on my street aren't here anymore. Good god where they up everyone's ass all the time. Lots of young families started to move in and now my street has little gaggles of kids and teens out and about all the time. There's an hour or two at the end of the school day where it's quiet so I suspect they're eating and doing homework. Then they go out and roam around doing kid stuff like buying their little snacks at the corner store, riding their bikes to the park in the middle of town, playing basketball in the street or volleyball at one of the neighbor's houses that had a new net. They'll sit on the curb in front of my house and pet my nosey cat who finds kids intensely interesting. Yeah, sometimes they're loud but it's never what I consider disruptive; it's usually laughter and joy and music, very rarely a screaming argument or anything like that. The old people would constantly chase the kids away and they weren't even doing anything! My street feels so much more alive with the kids and their parents all doing stuff together, or the kids feeling out where the boundaries are by going off to explore town with their friend groups. I made a vote to myself to never turn into that cranky old guy who runs everything for the kids. They can play on my lawn if they want to, or loiter in front of my house hanging out and talking and listening to their music. Kids need to feel like the people they live around are chill so they can go out without adults constantly trying to shove them out of sight and out of mind. What does that say other than, "you're unimportant and annoying and I don't like you"? What kind of world is that for kids to live in?
@@ChristopherSadlowski I am very happy for your neighborhood it sounds like the kids/teens are having a great time. My town the population is mostly older people. So, a little harder to find a place where older people are not there to tell kids/teen to go home. This town has so many parks, but older people like to walk around them so if a kid/teen show up they complain about them until the teenager leaves. Again I look younger. I went to a park to collect rocks (my kids use to paint them and we would hide them around town). Every time I went older people would follow me around glaring at me as I pick up rocks. One even followed me in his truck. Every time I would usually only be able to collect six or seven until the glares made me feel too nervous and I left. I was told they did that to any younger looking parent, then complain about how we all stopped painting rocks/hiding them because it was cute for the town. I have no idea why they always complain about younger people doing anything then complain they are not doing it sometimes within the same day.
Old people calling the cops on kids just existing in public spaces made for people to hang out in is just evil. And unfortunately common.
"We didn't want teens in the malls built to attract teens, so we banned them & now malls are dying! Who could have predicted this? Must be the youths' fault!"
Yeah dude after years of probation for being outside I gave up
aww that dnd group sounds rad as hell! i'm actually trying to set up a space for digital/asynchronous dnd and writing workshops for teens in the near future - would love to pick your brains if you're willing!
My father used to tell me: "Playing video games for 8 hours rots your brain, but if you replace that with Microsoft Excel for those same 8 hours it's fine."
I misunderstood and now I’m addicted to spreadsheets
Was your dad being facetious, or was he being serious?
@@celestialstar6450 well you see they are lying and attributing something to someone they know from something they saw on the internet. Very common now.
That's why I exclusively play Paradox Studios titles and optimization games (Factorio, Satisfactory, Mindustry...). It's a game AND a spreadsheet in disguise. PERFECTION!
Hey now one is a useful tool the other is a Microsoft product.
The thing i hate most about smartphones is that now employers expect you to be reachable and available to them 27/7. Which for someone like me who Spends most weekends camping, backpacking, hiking, fishing, skiing or otherwise unreachable this is a huge problem. I take Active pleasure in being unreachable, unvailable, and away from people.
yea i started turning on the focus filters on my phone about a year ago and im no longer feeling phantom vibrations in my pocket or hearing a ding and reaching for it.
It really is a problem though im not a "moral panicker" but it just objectively is more disturbing to be plugged in 24/7 , hearing every single piece of good and bad information day in and out, in the store that never closes, the party/conversation that never ends. It's not THE technology, it's how it's being exploited. The technology itself is wonderful
Yeah I was gone camping in a very rural area with no service two weekends in a row when work had an emergency and tried to get me to come in, and they seemed to not only have a problem about my lack of availability but also seemed to think I was lying about it as if they could never imagine not having access to their phones.
@@13crazydaisies casein point. It wasn’t one single event that made me think like I do about this, but rather how I saw the expectations change in the COVID era , and how they’ve carried over seamlessly into the post Covid era. I was in college during Covid (as an adult, I returned at 34 in 2019) , and the lines between school (or work) and not at school became so blurred that by the time I graduated and got a job, I was so mentally burned out with no sympathy or help from my new employers who knew exactly who I was and what my experience level was when I graduated. I g9t blamed for not training myself well enough, which makes no sense, and when I took a sick day for mental health purposes , I didn’t tell them it was for that but I agreed to do a task for someone at the office and then got criticized for being too slow with it. That was the first time I actually started to voice displeasure at the arrangement I had been set up to fail in, and it wasn’t anything crazy and it wasn’t to a supervisor it was just to another guy in the office who was part of the “in group” - I felt the office politics and the language they started to use when talking to me start becoming an us and them thing. I turned out to be right, got fired a few weeks later with no real explanation and also conveniently before I even got a chance to fail at my deadline, as if it was preordained.
Was the only one in the office who didn’t get a WFH day even though the nature of what I did was actually better to have been remote. I was the only IT person in the building, responsible for every aspect of this international companies humongous database , keeping their website online and maintaining and improving the code. I got the job shortly after I graduated , had an interview Wednesday , a job offer on Thursday which was on the low end of what I should get paid but with promises of revisiting my salary after 6 months , and bonuses at the end of the year . I was fired December 16th 2022. I felt bad for about 10 minutes but the emotional abuse I was taking was too much. They set me up for failure, and I felt relieved to have lost that job but they undermined my own self confidence so badly that I’m still dealing with the repercussions, not to mention ChatGPT came out at the same time and changed the job market for most of 2023.
Really highlighted the favoritism that goes on in corporate environments and complete lack of transparency and accountability that this employer expected of me, i have a very high drive to succeed and had I not been in such a negative environment, they would have had a loyal asset. Doesn’t feel like that’s what they wanted tho. I was going home everyday exhausted and by the time 9 o’clock rolled around I was ready for bed and woke up at 730 . And somehow expected to put in more time at home to train myself.
The good thing that came from that is I took a look at how my life was structured and how I can be more productive without sacrificing everything, I started meditating , I don’t compulsively check my phone anymore , long ago I ditched social media , I just rediscovered the value of disconnecting
I took a really long time getting a phone because my brother had to have one really young for his job (it was around 2004 phones weren't commonly owned by teens at the time) and my mom would call him at all times and have fits if he didn't answer or he answered and she hears voices in the background because being in public = doing drugs obviously. But he had it precisely for work, he was unavailable a lot of the time!
Good for you keep work and life separate. I set super strict boundaries where I work. I only do my 40 hours a week and I wont take any calls involving work unless Im on the clock.
It’s just now hitting me that “common sense” is analogous to “don’t think about it”
Why would they blame the environment and state of the world when we can blame social media or video games, ect.
especially since they would scream if all of a sudden we stopped consuming media and buying hardware.
then it would be a communist plot from the zoomers and their millennial parents to hurt the economy.
When I was a kid in the late 80's/early 90's the home gaming systems were blamed because they were new- you used to have to go to an arcade and socialize with the outside world, etc.
Before that, television was blamed.
Why would they accept blame for the environment they fostered when they can deflect and blame something else instead
Clearly it was marylin mansons music who did it
Obviously the teens are so suicidal because of all those ARTISTS and COMMUNICATION. If the kids were just isolated to their local, curated community, and only consumed Government Approved "art", everything would be fixed :)
I’ve done it. I’m addicted enough to my smartphone to be here.
Read my mind.
I saw this video in a dream 🤷♂️
Same...
Too...addicted....to smart phone.....to say.....anything......important.....!
you came here impulsively without your own consciousness?
MAYBE... work on being more intentional?
( yes i understand you were joking... but i take most jokes as half truths.... )
real questions:
with what purpose, intention, expectation, do you consumer internet content?
Plato absolutely would have loved mortal kombat. Fun fact: We don’t know his actual name. Plato is his grappling/wrestling title, and it means Broad. Dude was supposedly JACKED.
Is this why he never lost arguments?
His birth name isn't mysterious is it? It's Aristocles, right?
I read that his real name was Hank and that he authored the worlds' first semen retention blog on clay tablets and distributed them to teens in the common spaces personally. This explains why he was so jacked too.
@@mckinleaf that's literally the first sentence of Wikipedia!
Imagine Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson becoming a world famous historical philosopher, but we only remember him as The Rock. Amazing
Social media bad? Yes, pretty much all of it. But I think a lot of Smartphone addiction is overblown. I spend a lot of time on my phone not because I am now addicted, but because everything I used to do where I had to switch to a different device or method every 30 minutes is now in one spot. Kindle app to read during breakfast, another app for my commute music, another app for work, an app during my break to read the news, an app when I'm home eating dinner watching TV, and an app to play some games into the evening... every single one of those would've been a different thing to go pick up and use, but have been replaced by the phone. We didn't stop doing these things. We stopped moving to do them.
Not even in the halfway point, but wouldn't phones have much less of a negative effect if the popular apps didn't hired psychologists to make them more addictive??
(Passive aggressive old timey voice) Hey there boy, sounds like you're messing with the profit incentive. We don't take kindly to that in these states of Americuh.
"Wouldn't people be less greedy with money if everything was free?" Lmao wtf are you talking about? Was that meant to sound profound or something? Haha
@@searchengine27 You severely missed the point.
@@searchengine27 Strawman? Or you are going to have to explain how those questions are comparable...
@TheKastellan lol they're connected by both being equally stupid questions XD!! It's called hyperbole lmao...did you just learn what straw man was and rush to the internet to try and scream it at someone???
Turns out not having access to affordable housing, education food, health care or, you know, job security and career prospects is bad for your mental health. Oh and also : climate change.
We just happen to have more phones than before.
Correlation vs causation.
Mmmmm, I agree that those things are very real and very bad, but I don't think most school kids in 2008 were having their mental health seriously impacted by those things. Those seem more like issues that would affect young adults.
Lots of proof of causal relationship between social media use and depression / anxiety
@@therabbithat Yeah indeed, I'm not sure about this idea of eradicating blame from social media entirely. Seems pretty clear that it would have some nasty effects on attention span, let alone the perception of how important validation from as many people as possible is.
Fully onboard with shining a massive spotlight on the absolutely egregious socioeconomic problems that make it such a dangerous issue, but I'm not a fan of hand waving a pretty obvious impact that social media itself is having.
@@BodTheGrinch i think the first 25 minutes of this video should have been presented in a different way, cause he eventually gets to the truth (as Ive seen it way before I heard anyone on the news talk about it) , but i was just like ... moral panic? who's morally panicking?
As a former drug user and current tech user, and also a kid who had a cable modem before anyone else I knew in a pretty well to do area, it's been fairly apparent to me that the answer to almost any kind of systemic problem is never one extreme or the other, it's mindfulness and moderation of behavior related to said problem
I watch a lot of 1960's and 70's stuff...the complaints people had about teens back then is ''Kids now a days are spoiled, they make too much money, way too easily and it's just way too easy for them to find a well paying job''
as for housing, you kids are gonna have to learn carpentry to live with grand-ma and grand-pa and do some renos and chores in exchange for free rent...that way you can actually save your money for a house
I didn't expect this to be a thinly veiled "death of the third place" video, excelent research.
Cody may actually be one of the longest running actual consumers of AG1 at the this point.
I think there's a really obvious factor that's contributing towards depression in young people, and that's the ever increasing siphoning off of the wealth and quality of life of regular people to make billions of dollars for billionaires. These days, the overwhelming majority of young people aspire to "earn enough to get buy" - rather than owning their own home or starting their own family.
People see no future, no opportunities, and increasing exploitation by the rich and powerful of everyone else. Products are increasingly being hit by cheapflation, and services with enshittification, corporations are ever more invasive and filling our life with adverts, trying to squeeze every last penny they haven't gotten already. And then we have the media going "maybe it's the phones?" rather than give ANY scrutiny towards the problems we actually face.
Or the related effect of kids being blocked, often by armed guards or police, from any place they might gather in real life without spending money.
@@ernststravoblofeld Ah yes when the 'kids don't go outside enough these days' becomes where the fuck am I supposed to go outside? Someone living across from a park legit complained some teenagers having a party (not like a raver or drugs, but a party at the picnic tables with some food, drinks and loud music) were bothering them and got it shut down. It was only 6 pm. Do you want the kids outside or not?!
@prettyevil6662000 I saw someone interview a London cop about this, and he said most of his calls were old people complaining that young people were existing near them. It happens all the time in the US, too. We've criminalized childhood.
Don’t have kids! Solves all problems!
@@ernststravoblofeld
Yet they infantilize everyone. The irony hurts.
Katy rolls like the entire "Seinfeld" crew wrapped up into one deviant chaos dragon
I mean she's right. Cody needs to let Warmbo live, 🥩 new people.
Except Kosmo Warmbo
The way she said I can send texts I just I don't get text like I don't mentally processes them 😂😂😂 my dissociation felt seen 😅
Always hated that show.
@@vipermad358as someone that also hated and never watched the show, this thread completes me
Kids aren't taught how to do research or how to synthesize information. I remember the first time I heard a kid complain that he _couldn't_ do an assignment because there was "nothing on UA-cam."
That's not his fault. Someone has failed to teach about sources, source quality, information synthesis, and even how to formulate good questions. In an online world, forming a search query is a cornerstone of research, whether it's for Google and UA-cam, or Jstor and your Library search tool.
IMO, Education is not keeping up with technology.
There's also the fact that search engine optimization has ruined the ability to find scholarly articles in the ocean of ai-generated drek (and also paywalled information) so, once again, say it with me: the problem is capitalism.
@@musoumiko4730 True. It's worse if you don't have the tools to form good searches, and if you're searching a scholarly archive.
Guys. You literally just need to go to Google Scholar sub-engine and you will have the academic articles all in one place. You're welcome.
Guys. Literally ALL you need to do is go to the Google Scholar sub-engine. You're welcome.
@@musoumiko4730 Not even just scholarly sources. Anything that you want actual information from. I have to attach reddit to my search terms if I want to find any real solutions to my tech woes because almost all the actual forums for that isn't as active anymore. It was almost a breath of fresh air when bing powered by chatgpt came out because it didn't suck as much as google does now even with the hallucinations. Then.. It got worse.
'200 notifications a day' might sound scary if i didnt remember having a flip phone with an text inbox limit of 200 and needing to clear it nearly every day, because conversations you can reply to whenever you want are just naturally going to be longer than a phone call
Not one thing about a phone isn’t exploiting or profiting off the user. That is the problem. Big tech and late stage capitalism
Bingo
check out the book Technofeudalism!!
yeah, i feel kinda dumb for commenting before he started to make these points, but to be fair to myself he seemed to be going down a puzzling path in the first 25 minutes.
All these state media institutions repeating the line "digital fentanyl" is the funniest thing I've seen in a while.
They aren't even trying to be subtle with their fear generation manchine. 😂
Most were from Sinclair media outlets.
As someone who has been disabled since birth, I can honestly say that social media gave me a social life and support system. It opened the world up to me.
As a parent of a disabled child I want my child to have a phone for their own safety. I can tell you first hand that abuse of disabled students is fairly common. I want my child to be able to contact me, record teachers, call 911.
I want my children to have phones for our safety. So they can contact emergency services if I need help.
All of these laws and rules seem to be forgetting things like this.
Of course my partner and I don’t just give our children a smart phone as soon as they can hold an iPad and say “have at it kid”. We have fairly strict rules around internet and computer use, monitoring them, because of how young we give them access but isn’t their whole big slogan “I don’t coparent with the government”?
This seems like a lot of government coparenting 🤷♀️
My "AG1 is tested for contaminants and banned substances" shirt is raising a lot of questions already answered by the shirt
My nephew and niece are pretty much glued to their phones and video games. I don't blame them. Their city is yet another car centric, unwalkable, no public space snoozefest. Plus their parents are scared of the local homeless folk.
My kids are glued to thier phones and video games as well.
And yup, they live in a snoozefest,car centric neighbourhood, and jump at the chance to do something else when we can during thier visits with me.
Even when its just going down to the local social center sitting down and having a cup of joe.
Its all about the activites avalible
@@AnonymousAnarchist2 - similar for my experience growing up and currently as an adult, the amount of times I've jumped at the chance to do dishes instead of scrolling the internet would almost be embarrassing. These days I'd rather just have the video in the background while working on something (currently a shirt)
And what a lot of these parents don't realize is that many of today's most popular games are multiplayer. Not necessarily because they're better than singleplayer games, but because it helps these kids be social in a time where our governments are trying to keep us all apart. Our phones and games may not be the desired solution here, but they're the best shot these kids have at getting the social development they need.
car centric and unwalkable is what makes going outside great! Me and my friends enjoyed having the entire city to ourselves, you can drink and get stoned all you want because there's no one outside to complain about it...we where always outside up until our mid 20's...that was just 10 year ago, we played on the same street as this sissy generation is complaining about, saying it ain't good enough for them...fucking spoiled really and if we where hassled by homeless crackheads, we threw empty bottles at them lol
Cody: I'm reading this ad against my will. Drink AG1!!
AG1: Looks good to me dawg, let's keep hiring these guys
Honestly, I've started actually watching their AG1 ads as a result
I usually skip ads, but not these ones.
The CBD ones don't get a pass though.
@@FhtagnCthulhu yeah I'm with you there, fuckin hate anything CBD (you do you and all but I hate the shit)
My mom is a school teacher, and the amount of creative app and phone uses she invents to make her subject engaging and fun is astonishing to me. Anyone who thinks phones are bad for learning has no idea about actual modern learning.
Love hearing this. I think teachers fighting against tech is just the most short-sighted thing possible.
@@prettyevil6662000 I think maybe teachers fighting tech and the moral panic around smart phones in general may be more of a US problem? The latter had a few "human interest" opinion pieces in newspapers ten years ago or so, with opinions clearly imported from USA in the first place, and then dropped off the face of the Earth again.
And with teachers - well, I mean, sure. Some will go out of their way to use them and some won't. But... that's it? No one's actively fighting against tech. We actually have a dedicated class just for basic computer skills that is required by law and lasts like 8 years. People in USA are just so prone to panic and restrictive behavior. I think it might be an outgrowth of Evangelicism and/or parents' rights culture?
In Poland taking away your phone is considered an early sign of abuse and deeply concerning.
Hit me with some examples because holy shit we are so out of good ideas in my edge of the neighborhood.
@@SinHurr You're a bit out of luck, because my mom is away for training for a few days and I can't ask her for specifics. But I'll give you my limited understanding, and maybe come back to it later. My mom teaches a foreign language.
1. There's an app called Lingos, which is basically custom-made Duolingo. My mom has a standing "homework" of doing three minutes per day, every day. Students love this, because it's low effort and they start to see effects very quickly - it does wonders for vocabulary retention. And since you're the author of each lesson, and you can write whole phrases and sentences instead of just words, you can stretch this a bit to even include making the point of reinforcing grammar.
2. VIDEOS!!! These are great. You can give them as homework - make a 1 minute video of yourself speaking on this topic, you can have students video _each other_ during class - one of the things my mom does for her students is prepare them to give a pre-made presentation during a verbal exam. Recording and watching these presentations as a group became a standard practice, it helps students see what goes well, where they can improve, teaches them to pay attention to new things... OR you can assign making videos as a group project, where they have to plan it out, cooperate and even edit.
3. I also know that she has them play games and quizes competetively during class, both on the phones and offline. I'll try to get back to you on that.
As a bonus - apparently high school students aren't too cool to enjoy simple things in life. My mom took to bringing colored papers on test days. The SPEED with which they go from "Noooo...! Not today, Mrs Ela...!" to "I want the pink one!!" is amazing :D
...and it's always boys that ask for pink, which just brings joy to my heart :)))
@@SinHurr You're a bit out of luck, because my mom is away for training for a few days and I can't ask her for specifics. But I'll give you my limited understanding, and maybe come back to it later.
My mom teaches a foreign language.
1. There's an app called Lingos, which is basically custom-made Duolingo. My mom has a standing "homework" of doing three minutes per day, every day. Students love this, because it's low effort and they start to see effects very quickly - it does wonders for vocabulary retention. And since you're the author of each lesson, and you can write whole phrases and sentences instead of just words, you can stretch this a bit to even include reinforcing grammar.
2. VIDEOS!!! These are great. You can give them as homework - make a 1 minute video of yourself speaking on this topic, you can have students video _each other_ during class - one of the things my mom does for her students is prepare them to give a pre-made presentation during a verbal exam. Recording and watching these presentations as a group became a standard practice, it helps students see what goes well, where they can improve, teaches them to pay attention to new things... OR you can assign making videos as a group project, where they have to plan it out, cooperate and even edit.
3. I also know that she has them play games and quizes competetively during class, both on the phones and offline. I'll try to get back to you on that.
As a bonus - apparently high school students aren't too cool to enjoy simple things in life. My mom took to bringing colored papers on test days. The SPEED with which they go from "Noooo...! Not today, Mrs Ela...!" to "I want the pink one!!" is amazing :D
...and it's always boys that ask for pink, which just brings joy to my heart :)))
"For the last please help me years I've been drinking AG1." Absolutely wild that sponsors are still letting you write your own ad copy.
If they didn't, people would skip the sponsor segment lol
The thing about including listening to music as "screen time" or "phone use" has always bugged me. In high school, they would sometimes have us keep track of how much we used our phones. I like to listen to music while I'm doing other things, so I usually had one of the highest numbers in the class.
Once or twice, a teacher would have us read out our screen time statistics to the class. Nobody actually said it, but there was a feeling of "Look at this loser with no social life!" whenever someone said a really high number. A few of my friends told me later that they had lied, so their number would look lower.
Some teachers would make jokes like "Wow, look at these numbers. No wonder none of you turn your homework in on time!" It really bugged me, because I have the killer combination of ADHD and "gifted kid anxiety." The gifted kid anxiety made me terrified of being a "bad student," and the ADHD made it really hard to turn things in on time.
Anyway, I'm really glad you pointed out how ridiculous it is to count listening to music as "phone time."
Wow. Teachers forcing students to read those stats in class. Definitely fighting that bullying problem schools have.
How do these teachers not remember what being a student was like?
Or maybe they do and now they get to be the bully without interruption so they enjoy it.
I hear you on the gifted-adhd combo. Same here except I'm in my 40s now. Thankfully you already know you have ADHD and are hopefully getting help for it. I only figured it out a year ago. For my whole adult life I've felt like a loser and a failure, grossly underperforming compared to my potential. Anyway...
What made the school think they had the right to a) monitor your phone use and b) read the data out loud in front of the class? I wouldn't just refuse, I'd challenge them until they stop. One of the perks of being a gifted kid is being able to think and argue circles around your teachers and principals.
Just communicate with your teachers bro.. tell them that you don't always look at it and instead it's big because they are counting music..
Just talk.. it's not gonna end the world I promise..
@@SumeriyaYaxlaka I mean, that's definitely what I wish I'd done.
I'm glad you guys brought up the lack of public spaces. There's definitely a "ok what now?" moment after quitting social media. I'm personally fine posting my art on my own unkown website but most people can't do with the attention and communication.
I swear the best parts of the videos are the forced Ads...it's exactly how uneasy and embarrassed I would feel doing them and it makes me feel so validated as person that hates to pretend to like something and feels like making forced compliments equals to selling out.
But also, everybody needs to pay the bills...so...I truly appreciate how Cody managed to get the job done without giving up his attitude of discomfort for having to do it. Comedic and honest. 😂
12:44 I spoke with someone in my family about this just two, three weeks ago. Something else I took away was that the implication is that people only bend their head forward for phone usage, despite the fact that people (probably) tilt their head forwards much more often to read a textbook or novel. If the headtilting caused it, we would have seen the same development at the start of the 20th century, or with workers who spend a lot of time looking at the ground.
49:27 Having the Showdy show a stock photo of a "teen" using their phone to watch that exact second of the Showdy is a level of editing that we neither needed nor deserved, but are grateful for.
(Edit: Revised timestamp as suggested.)
49:27
Marvellous
Thank you for this. As an academic I always suffer when I hear about these "studies".
Thank you
Same shit in my country too, moral panics everywhere: videogames, internet, porn, smartphones, social media.... And at the end of the day you can take one walk outside to the nearest square and its full of kids kicking a ball around like normal. All of the moral panics are 5% substance and 95% bullshit.
this one hits different as a millennial who got their first cellphone at 11 after begging hysterically for it. having a cellphone actually assuaged my anxiety quite a bit, instead of raising it. probably because the main reason i wanted the phone was in case i had to call my mom to say goodbye in the event of a school shooting. then i was no longer scared of being murdered at school before i said goodbye. thanks, phones!
Could have alleviated some of that by saying goodbye in the morning before leaving and dropping "I love yous" all throughout the rest your time together, but I do understand. I do. Kid brought a gun to the school I work at a couple years ago. Just to show off, the report said, but still. Had me shaken up.
Also, dear parents: in the event of a situation at your kid's school: do not fucking call them. They might be hiding and if that ringtone goes off WELL GOOD JOB IDIOT
This is quite a US-specific example, but it nails the point on how it's not the phones that are to blame.
I grew up in the 90s. We wrote notes in class to pass between classes. I always had a magazine or paperback available to read when bored. I’ve never understood the difference.
Same here, and by the time I was 14 we all had phones, they weren't smart but we still used them to message in class.
Phones might add context from verified trusted sources on the interwebs though!
We cannot have children have access to what Karl Marx *actually* wrote, they might become disatisfied with capitalism!
We cannot have that, it would be far better to rip out an entire chapter of real history and replace it with uh. Um. Oh I know the myth of the founding of Taco Bell and Wendy's then ban phones in the classroom! That will do it!
Books are good for your brain and require, at least, basic reading comprehension and a bit of imagination. Writing notes is a practice in penmanship and composition.
None of these things are required for sitting through 8 seconds of a 30 second tiktok before flipping to the next vapid piece of content vomit.
@@SinHurr Kids and teens mostly use the phone to talk to each other, though.
One big difference is that it’s much easier to be distracted on a phone because you have access to so many other things at once, and you’re probably getting notifications to draw your attention elsewhere.
Reading is also a more active and engaging activity than watching a video, especially if what you’re watching is a TikTok short that’s meant to be consumed in 30 seconds before you move onto the next thing and forget about it.
BTW, the U.S. USED to have an Office of Technology Assessment. It was an excellent source of non-partisan expertise for Congress and anyone else. The Washington Times and Newt Gingrich killed it to save a whopping $21 million/yr.
Seems like a good thing to bring back.
I started kindergarten in 2002 and my mom cursed the No Child Left Behind Act constantly bc of how much it fucked over our education system. Same went for my teachers. By the time i was in 4th grade, teachers were outright explaining to us that because of the standardized test format, they had to teach us how to take the test over how to actually worth through our course material. Our course material became taking these tests. It was such bullshit. I appreciate that many of my teachers took the time to make a distinction between how to functionally work through our material to learn it, vs learning the logic of taking a standardized test. I can only imagine how much more enriching our curriculum could have been if all of our time and energy could have been put into just learning the curriculum and being creative with how we learned it and not how to take some useless fucking tests.
You realize thst tests do, in fact, test your knowledge of a subject and your ability to think critically in applying it to the problems presented?
@@EpiCxWoundsx Yes, thanks. Super useful input. I'm saying our teachers had to work double time to not only teach us the material, but also how to work out the weird logic of these tests. Given your response, I expect you did not take a standardized exam in a US school during this time.
@@EpiCxWoundsx Most studies suggest standardized testing is bad for gaining functional knowledge of a subject, learning critical thinking and bad for testing. They mostly just test how well you are at taking tests, which only encourages learning how to take tests over useful knowledge, skills and especially critical thinking.
Look at the rise in sales of SUVs between 2012 and 2023! THAT'S your culprit! 😂
(I know this is a joke, but pedestrian accidents have gotten way more deadly, so they are definitely the culprit of something. Whoever came up with the whole "bigger is better" auto trend has some reckoning to do at some point)
@@bulletsandbracelets4140 Oh, yeah. You can't see shit out of some of them. There are some correlations. Teen depression isn't one of them.
I think what you were starting to touch on is the idea of a "Third Place", and I think this is a problem for both kids and adults.
It's certainly a problem for me, particularly as I don't drink. Most adult gathering places are ultimately a business who's business model is built entirely around selling booze (or gambling).
And sure, some people can manage regular get-togethers at their home, or take up some expensive activity like golf, but that leaves everyone else with just their phone.
If you got a course near you: Disc golf at least where I live is inexpensive to get into and is where I spend a lot of my hanging out with friends because it's active and it's a good time without it being too serious. Of course I don't really meet people doing this so ymmv
"you're on drugs right now, aren't you?!"
*puts down dab pen*
mood
I've been arguing with people for so long that it's not ipads/phones/tiktok that's making kids struggle right now, especially as a neuroscience researcher who gets frustrated from the misinformation, so it's great to have a video like this to point to, thank you!
If I worked in AG1 marketing I would see this ad and think he seems sarcastic and reach for the phone to cancel the ads and then see Cody absolutely camel slam that entire bottle and hang the phone back up.
"Are smart phones bad for us?" I see as i look at the push notification to watch this youtube video.
Push notifications from UA-cam channels you trust and enjoy is 100x better than opening UA-cam and scrolling
Same
Maybe, just maybe people aren't depressed because of their phones but because everything kind of sucks right now
A thing can be two things
You're younger than 30 aren't you? I watched cell phones take off and social interactions go to shit. I know for a fact phones and social media are extremely addicting and terrible for your mental health.
How can things be bad when stock market go up?
Well maybe that’s because people were able to get more accurate information on the state of the world than the American media was willing to feed us
Maybe it wouldn’t be so bad if your generation didn’t remain blindly faithful to the system and let the world fall apart.
The world is more informed because of the internet/smart phones, now whether people are misinformed or properly informed is the actual question and I think that answer is the real issue 💙
Codys animation skills have come a long way
I’m miserable because of things I’ve seen on my phone, but if I saw or heard about them otherwise I would still be miserable.
When I think about minors being banned from social media, I think about kids who can't access online communities that alleviate the isolation they face when being LGBT in a conservative environment, struggling with mental health, or having an abusive family. I get so worried.
Its effectively a nothing bill, virtue signalling. Most social media websites need you to be 14-16 to start with and kids younger than that are not interested in social media, they like videos and such, for sure and that should he handled with care. But a ban on that wont change anything cuz its not kids signing into for warching videos. Its effectively only used so it can criminalize people who show "disagreeable" content online, without any proof that kids watch it.
Desantis IS going after online LGBT groups, (or really anyone who isn't posting literally neonazi iconography) and thats a big thing to worry about. Its a way to control kids and put them deeper into abusive or problem households, less contact outside means more control from the abuser.
Or even just living in the modern day. Kids aren't legally allowed to go out on thir own or hang out with friends without adult supervision at all times. If reported, their parents can literally have their kids taken away. Given that and the fact that distances between kids and their friends is a lot greater now due both to urban design and consolidating local schools into regional ones, they also need a parent or adult to bring them to friends houses or activities. Add to that the automatic parental fear of kids getting hit by one of the massive vehicles people drive so aggressively around, and kids are more isolated today than they ever have been.
Try being jewish in any leftist environment, it's like germany 1933
Because that's exactly the fucking point
DeSatan wants children to be sheltered and only exposed to information that their parents to provide to them, because in their eyes, children are property
The only wholistic solution I have ever ran across is radical liberation for children.
And that would take some seriously radical changes in society to do safely.
And amoung those changes would have to changes in how we value goods and services to being how much each has enriched our lives and not based on scarcity markets.
Thus de-insentivising the model of buy low sell high use ads to drive costs up up up.
thus fixing a lot of the issues with social media apps as ads wont be as useful.
But then you also have to let children *act* to get away from dangerious situations.
Meaning you have to have a place for them to go right away
Meaning there is always homes avalible for free, and food avalible for free, and communications tech avalible for anyone to take and use, with no questions asked.
thus changing the economic model further.
You see where this is all going dontcha?
They are trying SO hard to get out of that AG1 deal. We support you
when i was growing up my parents were very strict on the idea that my phone was bad for me, but with undiagnosed adhd + autism my phone was and incredibly important tool for me to be able to regulate myself throughout the day (having my phone at night fixed all my sleeping problems despite my parents being convinced it would do the opposite) and socialize. as much as i am addicted to my phone now, before i had it i would still be doing other stuff to keep myself occupied at all times. i now try to be conscious to spend my time in ways that leave me feeling fulfilled, but that can still involve using my phone
yeah as someone with ADHD, autism and executive functioning issues, I wouldn't be better off without the phone -- I would literally just stare at the wall instead lol
ADHD here, with a whole lot of severe anxiety and depression that went unmedicated for years thanks to my parent's biases.
They also pushed hard on the idea that I didn't need a cellphone of any kind, and that was before the original iPhone was even released.
They also refused to pay a data plan, and as a result I wouldn't see my first smartphone until 2016.
No adhd but I am autistic and this very much matches my experience. I was a teen when microcomputers were a thing and I’m very lucky my parents saw that playing games at night helped me to sleep because the western world was in the middle of a panic over them.
Yes, my phone helped me regulate a lot of my executive dysfunction in ways that were impossible before. I legit used to use multiple alarm clocks to set alarms to try and remind myself to do work before smartphones existed. But the lack of labels on the alarm meant something was often lost in translation. Phone alarms? Clearly labeled and unlimited amounts of them without having multiple watches laying around and trying to keep track of those watches.
Same boat of growing up with undiagnosed autism and similar parents. 🫂🫂🫂 I remember specifically my phone and earbuds helping me with noise suppression and control during the school day before I even put together I might've had sensory issues. Before that it was just an mp3 player, a smart phone just made the process more convenient (minus corporations being able to shove ads in a phone, unlike a mp3 player.)
The way I just cackled.
IRL.
And I'm on a cell phone sitting in a corporate breakroom tryna eat lunch unbothered.
Cos I'd rather binge YT instead of interacting with coworkers or participating lowgrade slavery due to wage stagnation, limited employment opportunities, and unhinged cost of living increases.
Also... that bone spur / spurious joke was fabulous.
You might be able to find good coworkers to chat with, but corporate mindset has changed so much in the last decade even.
My mother was honestly shocked that we just don't have water cooler chats anymore. You'll be called out if you're talking about anything other than work or the weather at work because "talk on your own dime". My parents could be friends with their coworkers -- i know next to nothing about mine
@@catelynh1020on some Reddit thread someone was saying they were getting in trouble with HR for NOT socializing and I couldn’t believe it. Why tf would HR care. It was a comment telling how a guy complained about a younger female coworker not being friendly to him. Idk if it was real but it got backed up by other posters that they’d had that happen too. Disturbing.
@@bones642that is absolutely insane. Like cringe "you know you should smile more" type bullshittery.
Oh, Tut-tut! AT LEAST you pay a higher percentage in Taxes than one-fifth of the Fotune 500 (they pay none)! Cheer up!
@@bones642 I believe it... I've been given a "verbal coaching" on my tendency to not participate during non-task related activities and generally giving others the impression I was standoffish and not a team player (even though it's well known I go above and beyond to help others, when directly asked that is). I had to get HR involved and they wound up doing a corporate designed training for Autism in the Workplace because I backed up with not only my own official diagnoses but also their own DEI initiatives - - it was their fault for putting in writing that they were trying to write me up for behaviors listed in their training modules that are often misinterpreted that literally had no impact upon the quality of my work.
I understand not everyone is like this in the workplace, and I've had polite brief interactions with others in my building.... I think it's really just due to the nature of my work - - just happens to be particularly toxic in how they hire and know if I hadn't been an internal transfer they would _NOT_ have hired me but now can't get rid of me because I actually do good work, and usually most decent people usually leave after awhile... I hope to find better pay and less need to binge YT somewhere else at some point.
But until then..... cody's getting my view to keep me somewhat same on Wednesdays.
As someone who lives in an area that has lots of kids and teens and is actively developing the neighborhood for walkable spaces, I see tons of complaints on our city's FB group page about kids out on their bikes in large droves, kids loitering in parking lots and at restaurants, and even complaints about the kids out at the skate parks where you'd expect them to be. The older folks around here want to complain about kids not spending time outside but when they do they are punished for it or loudly complained about. And the lack of actual space just around the homes in the community force the kids to spend more time in more dangerous spaces. When you don't have a yard to play in, you're going to play in the street. Some of the last remaining spaces in the areas for these kids are gas stations and comic shops, and they get so packed with kids that they literally have to kick them out sometimes. It's literally a no-win scenario for these kids.
I swear, either AG1 doesn't watch these, or they enjoy the tongue in cheek nature of these ads
a curriculum update is VERY much needed.
we need a good chunk of education on how to navigate the internet, and mental health.
researching skills that include identifying good sources and to avoid misinformation.
learning boundary setting and to respect others boundaries. along with how to help others in need. how to deal with bullies and predators.
this would include awareness of predators like marketing trying to take you money, data, identity, focus, time, self esteem.
( just a few off the top of my head)
As an english sub, I often took over classes teaching how to find good sources for essays, however they were still stuck in the stone age, I swear. They were still teaching kids how to use the library system and ask the librarians for help finding sources. Which are good, but there wasn't a single section about how to find good sources on the internet which is where we will find the vast majority of info nowadays. The vast majority of these kids are going to have access to a computer at home and would prefer to look up info there than at the library. Heck, half the books could be found legally online if they were taught how to find them safely. Best of both worlds if the curriculum was just up to date.
I am not a full teacher (and don't sub now) so I wasn't allowed to change the curriculum even though it was clearly extremely out of date. And updating it to involve the phones they probably have on them in class would have been so much more productive, engaging and probably better retained by them too. Anytime I subbed for an english class I constantly felt like the curriculum was fighting technology and it was so sad and very obvious why kids don't want to pay attention to the outdated stuff.
Not that I disagree, but that would have to come part and parcel with a big ass overall education update. Like, shit's fucked in a lot of ways as-is, equal parts intention by bad actors, and half us just coasting because doing things is _haaaaaaaaard waaaaaaaaaah_
Less constant state/district testing pls thkx it chews up literal weeks of my time as the IT guy every year.
@@SinHurr oh for sure. it would be a monumental task.
the only way i see it happening is over decades with a slow erosion of conservative influence in the legislative branch. but erosion of the conservative legislative will just make red states double down. supreme court cases would pop up. so an erosion of conservative judges would need to take place in parallel.
and of course every social group and business lobby will want a piece of the action. getting their say into the curriculum.
doing it on a county to county level is the most sustainable way to do it. and that comes with its own issues. it is slow again, but it is also more vulnerable to strategic attack. sen. meatball would undoubtably make his curriculum even worse. and that would simply be a cruelty done upon children. and with judges that support his actions.... a supreme court case in school curriculum could set bad precedent with the current sitting 9.
a tough situation for sure.
the best we can do is create the paradigm shift we are looking for.
1) make sure our own children are resilient and literate 2) go to PTA meetings, speak up 3) go to town halls and speak up 4) vote in local elections 5) "vote" with your dollars and boycott. 6) work on drafting the very curriculum we want and proposing it legislators for support.
lets remember that the conservatives have already been doing ALL of this. they even have stay-at-home school curriculums already in circulation. the left has to catch up.
"Content is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."
Edit: as a nobody with derivative takes, the likes are very encouraging. I'm glad so many of you understand.
RIP Karl Marx you would've loved smartphones
Fuck/Marry/Kill:
Religious organisations, social media corporations and literal opium?
Watching Cody tear apart hilariously bad zero-research news reporting, especially on statistics, is one of my favourite things in life.
Like, I've learned long ago not to pay much attention when a perpetually worried-sounding reporter starts blabbing on about how this or that "shocking" statistic is proof that society is ruined, but it's still fun to watch someone who actually read the data embarrass them so completely.
I recall that phones take away from “ah-ha” moments like in a shower. I read it described as moments we might get organically when we distract ourselves from a task like washing dishes while working on a paper; distractions from work that can help get back into work. Maybe a solution to a problem, or a new art idea, maybe you came up with a killer opening line to that novel. Instead, a phone serves as a distractor that does not always give back those “ah-ha” moments that can trigger or inspire work/action.
I don’t think this is the key so to speak, but just find it interesting.
That is a fascinating subject I’ve never considered before.
@@marioargiropoulos7555 Answer in Progess's video on boredom delves into this idea if you want to take a look. Not as well researched as Some More News but interesting none the less.
Counterpoint: I have ADHD and no phone will stop me from having random ideas like this.
23:20 I remember in the 90s there was that spike of kids ripping other kids heads out of their bodies and watching their spine dangle
😂 I just choked to death on this one. 😂😂
Where I lived, they just transformed into dragons and ate the top half of their friend...
The only damage I remember is wrecking your hands after hours on those arcade machines.
Best AG1 ad yet. 99.99% of ads are just obvious ads. The fact that AG1 lets Cody turn it into a bit where AG1 is the VILLAIN, where they threaten to break his legs, THAT is attention-grabbing. Most companies would not let someone make an ad where they are the bad guy.
Subway and, I think, Toyota both let themselves be cast as villains on Community. It's also pretty common for corporate social media accounts to act belligerent or make smart remarks.
I feel this had the opposite effect than intended lol
@@TriforceWisdom64 For subway, anything is more positive than being associated with Jared.
It was Honda on Community. The CRV to be exact, great episode ❤
As the old adage goes: no such thing as bad press.
I love the idea that AG1 is just mildly curious how zany Cody can make their ads while still reading directly the script and that's why they love them so much
either that or they just *REALLY* like breaking Cody's legs
I really hope there is an AG1 supercut someday! 🍵
I'm eleven minutes into it. A major reason for depression and suicide is economic anxiety, but we're definitely not going to do anything about that.
Dont wait for the goverment.
Mutual aid is a powerful tool
I'm enjoying the continued struggle between Cody's Unstoppable Farce and AG1's Immovable Sponsorship
American cities are also built around cars. It was easier for the youth to go outside when cars were more readily available. But now their culture of isolation is setting in even more. And I also think people socialized even more during the pandemic. And we all had that feeling of mutual support. We all needed each other for everything when we were in lockdown.
I was talking to my little one, we were listening to the Beach Boys and I could tell she wasn't quite getting it so I said "You gotta understand, sweety, we used to drive around for fun! Of course this was a time when you could fill up your gas tank for $4"
As a UK teacher, I can take a few solid guesses about why test scores have dropped: the shortage of maths teachers, the fact that most test formats changed in 2015, so the first cohort doing the new format exams were the 2017 students, government policies, the pandemic. Ironically, the only thing that I anecdotally noticed decreased with increased smartphone use is computer literacy. Students who can’t type fast, trying to touch every monitor they see, not knowing how to work a mouse, etc.
The Death of Third Places might be a good idea for a segment, actually
"yes cody!" we all say in unison as we watch this on our smartphones
I laughed really hard when you called us all out. You're right, those commercials didnt do anything.
My kid has had a smartphone from the ages 12-15. All his UA-cam watching has gotten him to the point where he understands concepts about cosmology, astrophysics, particle physics,history and paleo anthropology that I didn't understand until I was 16 or 17 (and I was doing WAYYYY too much acid, thinking about stars and early hominins). It's the interest a kid takes in what they're studying as well as their home life that matters. Since my dad was into those things, so was I. Since I was into those things so was my son. And both of us decided we wanted to pursue those topics as much as we could at young ages. I had books. He has YT. Pretty cool if you ask me.
16:29 The first day in my high school stats class, our teacher showed us how fruit exports from Puerto Rico can predict divorce trends in the US. The lesson was of course "correlation does not equal causation." I'm pleased to hear Odgers' review and I hope her students have a good laugh at this example.
This AG1 ad was pretty convincing, I think I might buy some to support their business and, I suppose, keep Cody's legs intact.
Can't wait to get back from my job staring at the bad screen so I can get home and stare at the good screen
This video actually made me more sympathetic to the teenagers who go to walmart to hang out. I get harassed a lot while I'm working which is part of why I don't always care for them, but they really don't have anywhere else to go. Groups of young people are actually choosing to spend hours of their free time at walmart because it's one of the few places they can go to hang out in public
I have been saying for years . I will be concerned when I hear an argument that Plato did not make about BOOKS.
Plato thought Books were bad, and all the arguments against "new media" is just a repeat of the arguments made against "traditional media" back when it was the "new media"
I imagine Thag caught so much shit for his cave pictures
@@mikey-wl2jt 😲
@@mikey-wl2jt Interestingly, we only know what arguments Plato made because someone wrote it down.
We're loosing the AG1 sponsership with this one boys
wow, rly? only boys watch the showdy?
@@bbbnuy3945 "The boys" as a term has been long memefied; like the "me and the boys pulling up to x" or something like that with a picture of some weird figures in a random situation. I.. sound really dumb trying to explain the memefied inclusiveness of the term "boys" tho; so Ill stop now 😅
@@EinFelsbrocken "the boys" is gender neutral in a similar way that "girlies", "girlypop", "babygirl" are. Which is to say, _not_ gender neutral, but inclusive to all.
ag1 is bad though.
@@bbbnuy3945 I'm more of an it than a boy but idk
I'm glad AG1 lets him do whatever tf he wants for their ads because they're always hilarious and I always end up watching them
What an awesome video! So much to think about and so many things that rang true. Thank you Some More News
There''s no way I'm going to consider the magical square with access to the entire breadth of human knowledge, language translation on the fly, communication with the entire world, bad for me.
We're bad for us. We're the baddies, not the technological marvel that would fit right into Star Trek 25 years ago and still seem a little unrealistic as to what it could do.
Edit: Thank you Cody, for making my post before watching completely irrelevant by addressing it in the video. I will keep it up in attempt to self shame myself away from doing it again in the future.
Amen!
But the magical square was designed by billionaires to make it easier to spy on you and purpusefuly keep you addicted. When people say pphone bad theyre not talking about learning
No shame in posting before you finish the video. You had thoughts during the viewing, that’s a good thing :)
Imagine having a magic wand that can turn itself into nearly any tool you could ever need, and the only thing people turn it into is a crack pipe
@MisterZimbabwe More so that its base form IS a crack pipe. Not because it has to be, but because it was designed to be.
Companies and communities are so afraid of teenagers. We hung out in the 100’s in the mall on Fri/Sat nights. They had the arcade and game store for us. The local mall won’t allow a similar arcade to back in. We could go to the 2 story arcade and food court at local casino, nowadays they’re not very friendly to large groups, even if adults (or 18+) are in the group. The only fun place round here is a Dave n Busters, but if you go in without parents they hover over you like a hawk.
I have three kids and I can tell you for certain the more time they spend with their screens the more they become isolated and disconnected from the people closest to them, while also spending more time in poorly or completely unmanaged online spaces and social media platforms that are designed to be addictive.
If we don't ban phones for minors then they'll be able to say terribly dangerous things like "help im trapped on epstein Island." And that could be very damaging to our country.
That's a bit extreme, you can't ban an entire demographic because of something that specific that hasn't happened yet
46:14 100%.
You want to prep kids for "the real world", the most important step is Getting Them To Care.
What happens when kids DO NOT WANT your "Real World" you are offering?
AG1 ads are getting more and more dystopian - I love it!
Okay..... okay..... that AG1 ad was my favorite so far!
I've been here for a long time and used to be frustrated by the ads. But now that I know you're being....... "forced".... I can get behind it. 😎
super perfect video to post when i've been without my phone for a week because i left it at a hotel abroad and am still in the process of getting it back. it's genuinely crazy how much i'm actually enjoying having a phone...now if only everything wasn't an app or qr code -_-
Me putting on this video for my background noise because I don’t pay for cable:
*hmm interesting*
Jonathan Haidt is the Bill Maher of academia in that it's hard to remember how or why I used to respect his opinion- just walking, talking Grandpa Simpson yelling at the clouds meme, or Skinner's "Am I out of touch? No, it's the kids who are wrong!" meme.
Thank you, faithful News Boy! We love you!
Awesome ad read. I have so much respect for you doing that 🙌
the pandemic is not over; the WHO is desperately trying to let people know that. it was just downgraded from a global emergency. another not mentioned reason for the lower test scores and higher rates of mental illness is that covid has been found to affect your brain; even one mild infection causes shrinkage/loss of matter and can worsen or trigger mental health issues like anxiety and depression. kids in school are raw-dogging covid with no leadership trying to implement clean air or masks, so of course there's going to be higher rates of mh problems. again there are studies showing this. covid is much worse than just the flu, can effect any system in your body, and kids aren't being protected
Well, more anxious and depressed kids are much easier for us to control, so that’s a W for us freedom warriors!
We all thought microplastics were gonna be this generation's lead paint chips and asbestos insulation but nah... Turns out it's covid.
you're saying im an idiot because of covid?
@@TurnipTheBeenah, just idioter
@@TurnipTheBee depends, are you from the leaded gasoline generation?
Yes! I say watching on my smartphone!
This was a great episode. I had certain preconceived notions that were challenged. It was a very nuanced take. Great work!
If I had a lot of money I'd invest in the creation of new "third places" and walkable neighborhoods/towns/cities. Things still wouldn't be perfect, but they'd be better.
Fire is fun! The Pyro apple doesn't fall far from the Pyro tree!🤘🏻
I hope this channel continues forever. I want warmbo to curse Cody and Katie so that they live forever to do this show at the same level as they are now. This is peak news, thank you to everyone who makes this channel what it is. All the writers, editors, producers, even the fans are funny and my type of people 😂 literally this show is perfect and helps me so much with not only my life and health but my depression and just everything, you guys rule and I’ll always be grateful for what we’ve been given already; this is top UA-cam channel, I mean even the ads are incredible. I love these characters. I love Some More News, it will never die! Just like Ric Flair. WOOOOOO