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Written by: Alec Opperman
Narrated by: Jared Bauer
Directed by: Jared Bauer & Alec Opperman
Edited by: Kim Kruse
Artwork by: JR Fleming
Research by: Jeanette Moreland
Produced by: Jacob Salamon
[ Works Cited ]
“October 11, 1992 Presidential Candidate Debate”, CSPAN
“The Digital Citizen” by Jon Katz, Wired.com
“Media Disruption Exacerbates Revolutionary Unrest: Evidence from Mubarak’s Quasi-Experiment” by Navid Hassanpour
“In Unsettled Times, Media Can Be a Call to Action, or a Distraction” by Noam Cohen, New York Times
“The Structure of Online Activism”, by Kevin Lewis, Kurt Gray, and Jens Meierhenrich
“Americans Feel Better Informed Thanks to the Internet” by Kristen Purcell and Lee Rainie, Pew Research Center
“Electronic Communities: Global Village or Cyberbalkans?” by Marshall Van Alstyne and Erik Brynjolfsson
“Two Ages: A Literary Review” by Soren Kierkegaard
[ Footage ]
*Al Jazeera
*Archive.org
*CERN
*George Bush Presidential Library and Museum
Library of Congress
National Archives
Paramount Television
Prelinger Archives
*World Economic Forum (www.weforum.org), via
*Wikimedia Commons
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Kathy Hutchins
Mark Reinstein
Twocoms
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I'm impressed!
I think the internet is good, in a similar way to how *electricity* and *cars* are good. I comes with fantastic pros, but also cons, and we're realising those cons and trying to figure out how to minimize them.
keep this one up I really liked it. Simple and to the point
So then what do you suggest?
the new pilots are great
"We live in an age where we have access to everything, but knowledge of nothing" - Ian Masters
and you shouldn’t go back. if you were wishing before that, your iq would be a little lower. he’s brainwashing you
I really like the term "Cyber-Balkans" now.
And thanks to it I've seen my hometown on Wisecrack! So proud!
cyber Middle East more like
No, but we're getting closer
What I like with the dog playing piano is that he don't do the corns salute
@@ivanpetkovic2130 you ruined the whole section
It'd be interesting to see an updated version of this given how much more extreme the fragmenting and polarisation has become less than two years after this was made.
True. If the last decade was bad, this year alone was a trainwreck. It's only going to get worse from here. Misinformation is literally part of life now. If it keeps going in the direction it is going in, I hope the internet is eventually shut down or something in the future. Most people don't seem to be able to handle this sort of power, me included.
Scary stuff :(
Another two years later and is getting even worse.
artificial intelligence is making it worse and makes it even worse
Neil Postman, author of “Amusing Ourselves to Death” (1985) summed it up best of all in the following quote:
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.
Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egotism.”
Markie2000 I am definitely going to check out the book. Thanks :-)
Yes!!! One of my favorite reads.
Just copied and pasted the quote from that book explaining the end of Brave New World, about why people laugh instead of think.
See also Technopoly by Neil Postman.
Also it's a great song by Roger Waters
Hegel feared those who would have us running from one extreme to another, over and over, without realizing it.
"Why participate when you can retweet" is one of the best things this channel has said.
I think it was "Why participate when you can retweet someone else's virtue."
It’s all Logan Paul’s fault.
nicholas kloster If anything he played a part in it
Agreed. See the internet made us agree so there for it works
Fuckin logan paul someone punch his lack of a wangnoodle through his fartbox. Inverted dingdong!😝👹
You shouldnt say that and be more respectful
I wish it was. The Paul Bros are easy to scapegoat because they're such scummy people.
The internet wasn't a mistake. Social media was.
The Internet is part of Social Media.
@@dupin9251 no, Social Media are small part of the Internet
It wasn't a mistake, it was inevitable
I say all the time that I miss the Internet from about 15-20 years ago. It wasn't perfect then, but outside of the trolls, it was a fairly reasonable era. I'd miss having no UA-cam though.
@@fstrgray82 Yeah, in my false memories the only bad thing that was caused by the Internet back then was people endlessly discussing if Kirk or Picard was the better Enterprise Captain (which OBVIOUSLY Picard was).
For cleaning this mess up I would suggest that the internet should only be accessable by Browsers that use command line prompts. Remember unpacking a compressed arj file in MS-DOS? Let's see if people are still motivated to post racist comments while taking a dump if it needs at least 150 characters just to open a website.
*It is almost like giving information to those who are mentally incapable of processing it, is inherently a bad thing.*
I wouldn't say incapable. It's just that the average person won't go out of their way to read up on and properly understand why something bad is happening or why there is a problem somewhere and will just believe whatever Mr.InternetMan tells them.
Plus memes capitalize on this by reducing everything into soulless dark "humor", which has the effect of desensitizing people to issues or news. In most comment sections you will find mindless, copy-pasted memes being upvoted instead of intellectual comments. This dumbs people down by not getting them to think very hard and reducing everything to laughter.
Hideo Kojima was right. "Colonel: All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate.
Rose: It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of evolution.
Colonel: Raiden, you seem to think that our plan is one of censorship.
Raiden: Are you telling me it's not!?
Rose: You're being silly! What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context.
Raiden: Create context?
Colonel: The digital society furthers human flaws and selectively rewards
development of convenient half-truths." AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Yep, he totally was : )
Reminds me of 1984.
I have the MGS ringtone & the (!) sound for my text alerts.
Came her for this.
it was GW disguised as Colonel and Rose
And now the Bangladeshi government is cutting off the internet to prevent students from protesting about road safety and the government, exactly like in this video. Hopefully this has the same affect it did in Egypt becoming a matter of international attention
my friend got his internet cut off of because of that
An Idiot government we have.
I hope so
cmon man every time the tv says the people just start a revolution, is USA fucking the other countries, this is naive and beyond stupid that americans dont know their own country, a real revolution never appear on TV. la revolucion no sera televisada.
That government won again with landslide victory again in Bangladesh. Wtf????
You can tell right away even on youtube comments
Where instead of something intellectual being upvoted?
Memes copy pasted are the things most popular.
@Know One It is worse because those people don't even think properly. When only the mindless comments are upvoted no one will think about the points in the video.
I see this a lot in history videos, especially alternate history videos. Everyone just upvoting memes and paying little attention to what would happen or what something means.
It has also happened that I watch a video about the Burn Out Society (society of restlessness) and the comments are "first" "no one:... Me:..."
@@marcoantino2920 Those comments have drove me insane
@@Boyd2342 i thought i was the only one
@@Boyd2342 they are so horrible...
The internet was a fine idea, it's social media that was a HUGE mistake.
So true
The social media ruins the fabric of communities while masquerading as the necessary glue of it.
We can only imagine how the 5G tech will escalate the situation even further.
As they say, those who choose not to use it have problems. I happen to have a huge problem with stupidity.
Is UA-cam social media? A hell of a lot of misinformation gets spread here. Even if you just had Geocities and web forums like in the 90s, except everyone used it instead of a few nerds, I wonder if it'd be that different. I think blaming social media on its own might be a little nearsighted. Or you'd have to expand the definition of social media to basically the whole internet.
@@Norsilca I would agree that youtube is technically social media too, but it also contains A LOT of useful news and information if you are discerning enough to weed thru all the trash.
@@dlg5485 The whole internet, including social media, is full of useful information. But the whole internet, not just social media, is also full of misinformation.
Just give that precious doggo it's own show.
I was feeling kinda motivated to get up and do something, but that cute dog placated me into just browsing youtube more.
d3c0de maybe that is part of the message
The internet is not a mistake. Allowing monopolies with political agendas to develop on the internet... That was the mistake!
Humans were a mistake. This is what mother earth would be saying about us
@Lauren BIG MAMA Doughty How would we stop it then?
@Lauren BIG MAMA Doughty no, you clearly haven't looked at human history then, as it is more towards Hobbes than any other political philosopher.
No man internet is a mistake.
@@OldHickory7 Iqjajajahw
Hideo Kojima talked about this in mgs2.
It wouldn't have to be so if there weren't people who intentionally wanted to dumb down and mislead people. Or even if there weren't as many such people.
The man is a prophet
he must have a time machine
Internet is like a Universe. It's expanding, leaving individual clusters of thought(matter) further and further apart.
Rafka Dof
Huh, interesting though...though if thats so, would the internet someday prove so vast that nothing can be parced from it?
Some clusters travel together cause gravity greater then darkenergy
As far as I'm concerned, all of the pilots have turned out really well so far. This channel is one that I consistently find myself coming back to. Keep up the great work guys. You guys work hard to put out consistently great content and it shows.
I am european and when article 13 was being discussed I was like oh shit pls no. Honestly today I wouldn't care that much because the internet has more negative things than positive things.
I 100% agree
Thanks for making this type of videos and for taking the time to do the research
Wisecrack wasn't a mistake
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What happened to thug notes anyway?
I think they ran out of books that the general public knows of that they could break down, which is pretty depressing.
stave I really don't think you could ever ran out of books...
Dario Caporuscio i don't think so too but... Mainstream books ran out? It can "happen"
leisiyox I really don't think so. There are so many books, even in "mainstream"... I think that the reason must be another ons
My guess is that the host is no longer with WiseCrack.
thanks so much, loving the work!
The internet exposed what everybody really is.
Hobbes is surprisingly on the money when it comes to the human condition, especially on the macro-level.
The Internet also distorts what everybody really is
Cosmo ViZión no
I will defeat Bruhify so you’ve never met a person online that acts super rude, antagonistic and mean? They never would act like that in real life, but the internet allows them to be someone they truly are.
Wolfpack clone Ark trooper yes
I’m seriously loving pilot season! This seems like a great concept for a show. :D I would love to hear more about current issues from you guys. You have a unique way of looking at things and talking about them.
To be fair, every new innovation is hailed as a "mistake." When books/scrolls were first used Greek philosophers hailed them as a mistake. Same with the television, newspapers, etc. in the end however, all of these innovations advanced society.
you pointed out like the most fixable issues if people cared enough to do something while ignoring all the massive progress made, or would we be better off without fire, farming, books, science-based medicine, electricity or economies of scale?
Yes but everything can be corrupted from books to internet.
Too bad humanity have a bad habit of abusing innovations, and twist everything that is meant to do good
Mordercai Near the road to hell is paved with good intentions my friend
I love this channel so much. Thank you!
Very insightful and superbly organized and presented. More please!
Doggo on piano was worth it.
I wanna know the song tho
I really enjoyed the graphics on this! You obviously did a lot of research for this video too. Thanks for making this video!
being a user on reddit happens to be the worst mistake in my life. i think the internet was a mistake because of that
Yes, that thing (reddit) turns humans into monsters.
thanks for your work
Screenslaver really has a point.
Stiltzkin Vanserine I know right!? I watched the movie and I was like uhhh is this person supposed to be the baddie? because they’re talking a lot of sense
Agreed. I think in some ways Incredibles 2 was a great film because wasn't so binary with the concepts of good and evil, something that hero movies do so easily. Although, I worry that people will lazily just assume all the baddie says is bad, rather than see that Screenslaver, while badly intentioned, is making some perceptive points about modern life.
This is the best wisecrack video ever
Completely agree
This is the best XKCD ever!
if you say so? who is this guy? where is everyone else?
I love this! Please make more!
I loved the format! Very interesting video!
On the subject of the video I ask : what now? Some hard working people must have come up with plans or ideas to balance things out... ?
Amazing work, guys. So on point! Do more vids like this
Why did you guys stop making Thug Notes and Earthling Cinema?
You = bad
Or 8-bit philosophy.
i personnally like the new material more. Expet thug notes. They were awesome
I miss Earthling Cinema and Thug Notes too. But I like this as well.
Thug Notes are the reason I'm on this channel. I guess they quietly dropped it. I never liked Earthling Cinema though. Anyway, I only watch videos that seem interesting. I'm not really a "true fan" of all of their content.
loved it, pliz do more! when I think about it there was a time i had no internet for a month.. and for that time i had normal sleeping habits and I was productive and felt truly myself, then it came back and puff, gone, its terrifying how dependent we are to PC's and the internet in general
You want my feedback. You got it. I loved it! Keep 'em coming.
The internet is a series of tubes
Tubes with cats.
42 people know the reference.
Incredible animation. Felt like I was back in the 90's. Solid well researched content as well. More videos like these please!
First of all, this was great!
Secondly, this video just makes me realize how much Wisecrack ought to make a "Philosophy of Metal Gear Solid 2." It's SO much up your alley!
Thank you, you sure hit that nail on the head!
I love what you’re doing with this channel. I started following to see philosophy in movies and stories and I’m staying because of diversifying content and a true connection to the reason why I subscribed in the first place
This really is my favorite channel on all of the internet.
This is Wisecrack's best video. You guys articulated a concern about the internet for the last ten years, and broke it down brilliantly.
This was one of your most interesting videos yet, please keep up this show!
Missed the best theory. “Internet Changes nothing”. Mechanics might change slightly, but it is all the same. In the ancient democracies information was available, people just didn’t care. The people has always been an educated mass political devise. From Marc Antony rallying the masses to brexit it is all the same. People being herded for reasons not to complicated, but beyond the interest of the masses.
Internet makes being anonymous simply different. There was a time when you could simply change your name. Print flyers and simply don’t sign them. The ability of organizations to track down individuals has increased proportionally to individuals ease to anonymity.
There is not a single internet problem or advantage that did not exist before. It all simply grows proportionally. During the enlightment it was perfectly normal for the world wide intelligentsia to exchange letters and telegrams. It was perfectly normal for common people to only talk to their church group and not give a fuck about the rest of the world. Today is exactly the same. The people in academia are a single world community far better communicated. Regular people never see beyond their small community perspective. That community got bigger compared to 200 years ago, but proportionally the same.
Jackson DeCourcy accessibility, and exclusivity are not the same thing. The myth of only the elite knew how to read and write is stigmatized on us due to the dark ages. The ancient world (Egypt, Persia, Greeks, China, etc) was magnitudes bigger than the medieval world. Because it was so big, most people (by that meaning citizens, not slaves) knew at least basic reading and math.
If you are a Christian you have no need for those skills. If you are a small pastor in a small town who trades with Persepolis; then you absolutely need to read and write. You need to know basic math, how to sign their version of money orders. Romans had something similar to what we call futures contracts.
Baths, circus, markets, agora, they all required people to read signs. Any middle class citizen making a deal on the forum was expected to write and sign a contract. Lawyer was a common profession in the Greco-Roman world. It is painful to realize that for 1,500 years people looked backward for progress, but true.
Information was widely available. For the time period. Rome had an urbanization of 27%. A number that no one achieved until the 20th century. At the turn of the century the USA only had 17% urbanization rate.
To be realistic. Let’s say about a third of the people in ancient cities had relatively easy access to any kind of information. It seems really low compared to the ilusión of accessibility today. But we have to remember how things have been for most of our history. Small note about China. In China they had the largest literate population for the longest consecutive time. Because managing big bureaucracies requieres a lot of paperwork; a big chunk of the population had access to free state education.
Edgar A. 亚瑟 Ollervides dude i would love to know where u get these informations bc I personally thought your "theory" was eye opening
Before reading your commentary I thought the same way as Jared expressed in the video
But now I can see why what u wrote makes a lot more sense, specially if u see how the story kinda repeats itself
Perez Silva I am really glad someone is thinking about it. (I Spent 4 years in post-grad trying to build a consistent economic development model. I made a lot of progress studying world economic history and compiling other papers. Eventually I got to a point where I needed a lot of funding and a big team, but no one would pay for it. So instead I published a book with the previous ideas and future theories)
The important point to take out of this, is that civilization does not need masses of free thinking people. All human progress has been achieved by a very small group of people. The trick is that small group of people needs two things.
1.- they need a society that allows them to innovate. The more complex a society is, with more competent institutions the easier it is for a few to dedicate their lives to projects that most people would censor. (Think about Muslim countries. Even if you put all the most brilliant people there with unlimited money, they won’t achieve anything. They will be censored by society and institutions).
2.- Mobility and accessibility for the greatest number of people. Human progress has been so slow because most people with the potential to do good never had the opportunity. For most of human history only people who happen to haven natural critical thinking, and happen to be born in the right family had a chance to do something. The internet is there to be mostly useless for most, and to facilitate access to the few. (Again think about a super Muslim country. Half their population is completely useless towards progress. Then more than half of the men are so poor that they have other things to worry about even if they have potential to be good. Finally the last group gets censored).
FYI: book is called. “6World Lessons We Were Never Taught”
Edgar A. 亚瑟 Ollervides I'll be checking out your book. You have a very interesting theory that I've heard expressed in many other ways but never to the full extent you just laid out.
I'm 20, turning 21. For many years I just thought if I'm innovative, creative, and see another side to the internet that most people don't get to see, why can't I just enforce it on others until they start seeing how it's changing the world too. But it seems no matter what, the likelihood of the person I'm trying to teach being interested enough to care is low. Always very low.
And I'm not trying to teach people that already know what they want to do with their life, far from it. I've always struggled in understanding why, if we're living in such a drastic time for development of technology, and if technology covers such a broad spectrum nowadays, why are the creative intuitive and awesome people not showing themselves from what I can see, and 95% of the time, the only time I ever get that hope restored, is from something I see on the internet. Because it's so densely populated with the intuitive people.
In conclusion, your words give me hope too. Because if nothing else you're right in saying that the creative people don't need millions of other creative people, we just need good community, good communication, and the ability to keep doing what we love doing most. proportional growth.
This is a subject that needs more attention than most. More troubling than the cyber-balkanization issue is the apathy that arises from the constant consumption of mindless media that is presented to users between the important stuff. I hope you guys get to turn this one into an ongoing series.
Well Researched. I also like that you present in an entertaining way.
fantastic stuff guys (y) keep it up, the more of this kind of content the better! :)
The plot of this video reminded me of the extended monologue in incredibles 2
So glad that you guys actually cited your work!
Yeah. I’ve watched everyone slowly lose their minds since the internet began. Now we live in a dystopian hellscape.
Put your sources in the description
This is the first time I disliked a video for a looong time and it's because a paywall for sources. Interesting.
Edit: Dislike retracted, added a like. Thanks, guys!
Sorry, we meant to add them to the description! The research on our Patreon is all the background research we did, including stuff we don't explicitly mention in the video.
Also, that last song
You can try to crop out that office dog, but we all saw it
What’s it name?
Does it like to play fetch?
Does it want a belly rub?
The people demand to know!
Was it the dog in the keyboard music video in the end?? That dogg had mad skills🐶
@@Bradley_Lute Your insightful, witty comments elsewhere re: this video led me to check out your music playlists. I was intrigued by the breadth and diversity! Now, I have a crush, haha. So, how about a leisurely stroll while sipping on iced tea in the park after lockdown? Any possible puns/euphemisms are unintended. 😁😉
This is amazing. Need more of this series
I really enjoy what you have accomplished here. Keep the good work!
Hey there Jared, great video man, I really appreciate the amount of information and ideas present in this video, really thought provoking - I'm currently in the process of researching a lot of these concepts and ideas, but there is a lot of content and time (past few centuries in particular) to work through to get to a conclusion, which your video is helping with.
For me, the main thing that will help is if you and your channel, in its knowledge and wisdom, could put forth your own conclusions and ideas for solutions - I really appreciate you putting so much information out there for us to view, and it is helping me find a better direction with my research, but I would also really appreciate you guys stating your opinions (perhaps on other platforms depending on appropriateness for this channel) about what the solutions could be to these problems - I understand that this is risky to take stances on these things, but I do really respect your understanding and would love anything that puts us that one step closer to figuring out what to do about these problems of disconnection.
Again, I really appreciate your work, and I really appreciate your time in working towards talking about such complex and important issues. I am worried about where this is all going, but I am certain that videos such as this one are part of the process towards figuring out how to proceed through the next few decades. Cheers, Lachy
Thank you for exploring the mysteries of the Internet
Also your dog is adorable :)
I'm so sorry I thought so little of you and your team. Good job, god bless, and keep it up!
Great work guys 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
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I think there is a balance between no Internet at all and being connected online. It is true that with the internet we've grown more tolerable with disturbing news and horrific issues that we see day after day, but it helps us to be more aware of these issues for our growth. To me the decade that had the balance of online and off-line activity was the 2000s-2010. There wasn't so much internet for people to still engage in society, and there wasn't so little internet that people can still connect with one another. I don't know what to say on this conflict, all I can do is hope for the best for humanity and our integrity for the future.
Agreed so much with this. 2000 to 2010: Facebook and Myspace were there, so you could reconnect with your childhood friends and connect with other people. A ton of forums where you could meet new people with similar interests. But offline interaction was still a thing.
I think something turned when these sites became "social media" sites. When Facebook wanted me to come and stay not just for connecting with friends but also for news, entertainment, political activism, etc. I go to only three sites now: Facebook, Reddit, and UA-cam. Maybe that's why I'm in an echo chamber?
Well done . They even tell their sources - like an old school bibliography ; from days when where you got your info was important . Subscribed - and I haven't subscribed to anything in years !
Amazing content guys keep making different and special things like this.
Omg Ghost in the Shell Standalone Complex was right!
Also I love the song at the end with keyboard pup.
I don't disagree with all of the video, but you can't blame the internet for people using it unwisely. Individual people should be held accountable for their own complacency and lack of research skills.
This is based on pure idealism. How is your suggestion possible in our current reality, where people are highly connected with each other and can flounder in their own "complacency and lack of research skills" together? How do you hold people accountable when there are so many individuals on an anonymous platform?
Internet is a tool. But a technology that we were not ready for. Result chaos. Out of chaos extremist took hold. Voices we would laugh at pre Internet era are main stream and we are baffled when Trump like creatures hold our lives in their hands.
I think there should be government regulation and studies before technologies can be introduced into societies.
Technologies are so power now that they threaten the very existance of Humanity.
In the case of Human cloning it was banned and still is.
So should be AI
Societies need to be educated , controls need to be in place and only then should the technologies be introduced.
You vastly misunderstood my comment. I did not claim that "every user is competent, stable, and sane," and in fact I implied the opposite. My point was that there are too many connections and too much anonymity to hold people accountable on the platform. So yes, exactly like you said, "Historically, there were less assholes because you can get your ass kicked for spewing bullshit." And now that is not the case at all. I don't get what you're trying to say in your comment.
You say individual people should be held accountable for their own complacency
but why should they care?
Also, it's not all bad. It's led to people reuniting more easily, especially on Facebook. It has given people a chance at a social life that some people wouldn't otherwise have. I can go on, but if anyone just thinks about it for a while, they'll realize the same thing.
Absolutely loved this video everything was so well done Info, presentation, art , music etc... Been watching wise crack for a few years this video is I one of my top 3 definitely
This is a great show. I hope you continue with it, the analysis was really good and it helped me with some great ideas for a reseach about journalism. Keep it up.
*This is what I've been telling people for years!! Tv, the Internet, it's kept us complacent*
Internet was created by cats elitist to encover the mystery of the red dot .
But we'll never tell...
*wink wink*
We've already conquered Tashirojima. Europe is next. Humans will bend the knee to their feline superiors. Resistance is futile.
Lord Bastet is amused.
Great episode
Love the content. Never disappointed
SPOILER: The internet was not a mistake. The internet doesn't even produce problems.
The internet only makes problems visible that have been all along in society by fastening up the mechanisms behind them.
t1288 b
damn, that is an interesting point
the internet has been producing problems because people continue to hurt others with knowledge they won’t get into trouble
@@Collin857 Please add a few words to that sentence for better understanding.
9:02 cue matpat
Art Of Life that's just a theory.
A WISECRACK THEORY! Thanks for watching.
Covfefe IV YES 😂
Spot on sir well done
Please, continue! I live in Brazil and this kind of content is exactly what we need right now
I'm dropping the internet from my life after the election. I have been planning this for over a year. I gave up my cell phone over a decade ago and my life is better because I did so I kinda figure my life will be better without the net too.
I respect that.
I wish everyone was like that.
@@magicsocks4031 I wish I could have followed through but I do spend much less time here.
Well, let me tell you... As I was a child in the middle of Blakan countries becoming hostile... My father was very politically active, and since there was no internet or mobile phone, he used a portable radio station to stay in touch with other activists, and my mom. We still have that radio station, and after the zombie apocalipse, it will be more usefull than internet :D
Awesome vid! I remember thinking wow, wisecrack makes some great content it would be cool if they did some videos on society. Glad you are doing just that!
Thanks for articulating what I've been thinking for awhile
Well that was depressingly true
We could look through a Guttenberg point of view. There were debates about books, even back in ancient Greece, talking about if more information is good or bad. Overall, more information was more good than bad. Let's say that the benefit of the internet has a 2 to 5 ratio for being bad. 40% of the internet makes the world worst off than before, and 60% makes the world better off than before. Sometimes it is easy to get hung up on the 2/5th and ignore the net advantage that the internet gives us.
The internet isn't 100% good nor is it 100% bad. It has pros and cons, just like books; just like the Guttenberg press, and frankly, just like any other technology.
brice Johnson the internet doesn't spread information though, it's a perpetual dopamine machine at best and a way to bunker down in your own echo chamber FOREVER at best. I see why you make the Guttenberg comparison but that's a false equivalency in my opinion. Your argument centers around comparing a tool meant for spreading information (the printing press) and the internet. The internet isn't used for information it's used for connecting to things that already agree with your point of view and to get hollow validation for putring on various social masks. You have to absorb info from a book, you have to fight to just to pay attention to anything on the internet.
Joseph Mavero The internet's main and intended use if for information, what you're talking about is a major problem but I feel that fits into the 2/5. Obviously it's going to be misused virtually every tool has been misused, I know I've seen people try to open beer with a mallet. It's impossible to survey something like this because it would all be based on the opinions of the people interviewed what I can tell you is that college classes are being taught online and the internet is being used as a resource in schools at almost every grade level.
The Intended use doesn't really come into play when the objective fact is that it only impedes the spreading of accurate information as opposed to people choosing their favorite flavor of reality. I myself have benefitted from uses the internet as an academic tool. I can see a positive there. I personally see the cons outweighing the pros for our democracy. I could very easily be wrong though, I am just a college student lol
College drop out here, I think the comparison is actually pretty fair. While books are meant to spread information, they could and have been twisted to spread out information (albeit with more expenses) to the same effect that the internet has. I think a good example of this are Trumps political books which are tailored to people who share his views(not that I speak for/against the books). Politically biased books aren't really new either, just search up any president/king/leader's writings and you'll find the same. To be fair to you though, the internet's spread of information is at such an unprecedented level that the cons have magnified exponentially. In my opinion, I think the internet's cons outweigh the benefits simply because it's such a versatile and expansive tool that it's benefits and cons are determined by how any given individual uses it. I believe most people don't use the internet properly and like the video states, lets them get complacent as spectators to a world built around their opinion, me included.
I think your point is fair but I find myself disagreeing with you.
The internet is apples; books are oranges, and what brings them together is information or, should I say fruit. Books have a dark history of writers forced to write for a White, Christian, Geocentric, European, audience that only want to hear things that agree with their point of view. In other words, books are what we could consider an echo chamber.
Books also had a history of fake news. Just look up yellow journalism and you will see that fake news has been a problem for hundreds of years with the help of books.
I will not ever say that books are a slower form of the internet. Like you were implying, the internet has many niches that books can never duplicate. But sometimes we get stuck in the nuances that lead us to become more pessimistic about this new technology when in fact, throughout history, the problem we have been talking about isn't really that new. We are only talking about it because it is relevant.
In my opinion, we will never really know if the internet is socially good or bad until about 100 years from now. In about the year 2118, I will get back to you and tell you who is right. The pessimist, or the optimists. Maybe this perpetual dopamine machine will suprize us somehow.
Great video essay!! Saludos from Mexico
well put, thank you...
When are you guys are going to make the philosophy of Marquis de Sade? I've been waiting forever
The internet must be destroyed.
Precisely. Nice Work!
Good work! Nice presentation and for the most part I agree with your perspectives. (I mean, there's a lot here I've never considered. Very informative!) I'm left eager to hear your predictions of the near future. Is there any hope for us?
In my opinion the internet will one day be the worst thing to ever happen to humanity. I don't know how, but one day we will look back on the internet as we know it today, and just facepalm.
I demand to know where I can find:
1. The full video of that cute dog playing the piano and
2. The song that the cute dog was playing
So good. Incredibly thought provoking and powerful. Not to mention, the music was on point. Gold star effort....platinum encrusted gold star effort actually.
i really cant thank you enough for this. i loved it so much. more about arm chair intellectualism please.
The Internet was a mistake. Know where I learned that? On the Internet.
Liking this feels wrong, now
shit I just liked your comment, FUCK IM PART OF THE PROBLEM
Fascinating presentation, youre one of the best channels I sub to. The Inet, Exactly the opposite of what one would think.
I LOVE YOU WISECRACK!!!!! YOUR POINT OF VIEW IS NEEDED IN THIS WORLD!!!