HOW DID I MISS THIS?! IT'S MY FAVORITE CENTURY FOR FASHION, I LOVE THE WORKING CLASS CLOTHES THE MOST, AND IT'S SHOWING THEM IN SUMMER?! CrowsEyeProductions, you spoil me!
technically it's more an amendment to the first video- check the channels videos for 'getting dressed in the 18th century- working women' and you'll see they're wearing the first couple of layers from that :)
There's a letter from the 18th century that I've read from a man living in the US who was writing to his brother back home in England. Apparently the man in England was thinking about joining his brother in America and, to paraphrase, the brother was like, "Don't come. Change your plans. It's too hot." Hahaha
I love this but I wish the music towards the end was a little lower, like in the beginning. I have problems processing words sometimes and it was hard to hear/understand what was being said when the music got louder
Aye, but pre industrial revolution we hadn't buggered up the countryside and set off global warming just yet- the last 18 years of this millenium have all been within the hottest 19 summers on record- I could do with an 18th century summer right now, that's for sure!
The clothes of the working class peasants were more sensible than those of the upper class! I like their woven straw hats! Great for keeping the sun off of the face! ~Janet in Canada
I loved this, I do... I love how it was filmed, the cinematography, the voice over... but when those girls went to cut hay they did it with the kind of tenacity you would have for braiding hair. I laughed out loud and thought, "They will never get the hay cut at this rate!" Then I laughed some more when it cut from a few seconds of tender grass cutting to a picnic. I only wish it was that romantic and easy looking. These girls should have looked a sweaty mess with hair sticking to the sides of their faces. Just saying... ;) I grew up around farmers and no one looks that pretty in the field.
I mean the bulk of it would've probably be done by Daddy and Hubby with the family scythe, I reckon the women would probably be involved in carrying the hay, probably on their heads like you still see in some parts of the world
There are paintings of women cutting hay. History weirdly erases rural women and just leaves the impression that women were always these dainty pampered creatures. Strenuous physical labor was a regular part of life for peasant women. On the whole, people today are much weaker than people in the past.
I didn't say they didn't do strenuous labour, and yeah modern people need to get it into their heads that we do less work then even the most pampered people from the past.
Men would have used the scythes and women would have predominantly raked the hay and helped pile the stooks. Unfortunately, the field was due to be harvested by machine the following day and so we were not able to show real harvesting by hand.
Can anyone offer insight into how cultural reactions to visible stays and petticoats differ from now? Obviously our modern views of visible undergarments are complex, as they might have been then, and I suspect this concept probably provoked a more class-oriented reaction than a taboo one as it might (or might not) nowadays. But I'd really like to know more.
realistically they probably didnt care, if you worked the field, your priorities are not to be fashionable, but to be practical. and most of the etiquette and the societal norms we associate with the past were mainly reserved for the upper class elite and not the poor working class.
Thanks a million. I always wanted to know about their dresses and particularly wanted to know why they kept their aprons tucked . I have found my answer. 🙏✌️👏💃💃💃💃💃💃💃
This was really informing and interesting, the only thing does anyone find the sounds of the crickets annoying? Unless it was just my laptop messing up.:) Keep it up!
They might be dressed according to history, but the work is not depicted in an historically accurate way. They look like rich ladies playing commoners at harvest. Which I suppose they in reality are.
What is this style of hat called? I found similar-looking "Bergere" hats, but those seem to be smaller, tied differently, and worn at the back of the head.
I believe they just called them linen caps, by searching for 18th century linen caps I found different styles, which included very similar ones to the video
in the 18th century, stays were negligibly underwear-an upper class woman wouldn’tve gone outside with her stays exposed, but it was rather common for the lower classes in warmer weather.
I honestly hate living in this world. I love that we have the privilege of these things but I hate it more. The global warming it causes is unbelievable. I hate how not many people think about it so we can’t change it. I think about it all the time. I hate how even if I try my hardest and do everything I can to stop it, it won’t make a difference. More and more people have to join in if we’re gonna change this world. Our water is running down by the minute, we’re running out of oxygen, we’re losing land, all for the things we want. We don’t NEED internet. We don’t NEED paper. We don’t NEED factories. Why can’t we go back to the way of doing things in the Olden days? It’s so innocent and calm. Making handmade items. Sewing our own clothes. Farming to grow our own food. Instead of eating junk food, grow a farm and grow fruits and vegetables! You can make tons of meals with just a single tomato. It makes my skin itch just thinking about what we’re doing to our earth. Our nature. Our world! What god created for us! Yes I won’t say it’s not nice to have these things, but it’s not worth what it’s doing to us. A single pack of paper, is a whole tree. They say, “For every tree we cut down, we plant 2.” Yeah it sounds good, but think. How long does it take to grow a full sized tree? About 20 years. We’re losing more than we’re gaining. We need to stop this! Everyone who’s reading this needs to try at least a month of using nature provided items. Just try. I hope by you reading this it has opened up your mind and made you realize the difference between today and then. Thank you
@@aroltrix447 we are running out of oxygen?! Erhmmm.. I think not, it is not that bad yet lol. You do realise paper is not a modern invention right? It has been with us for a while. Nothing wrong with recycling paper. No reason to eliminate it entirely, it is needed. Maybe less emotion and some harder facts? Or better yet, join a church and channel all that fundamentalism.
Previous video: You put your stockings and shoes on first, because guess what, bending over in stays is not fun. This video: Let's go cut some hay! With the stays on, of course - we're not animals. Some commenters: On bigger estates, men did most of the hay cutting while women raked and piled and carried. Me: Well thank fuck for small mercies, I guess.
A sickle and a scythe is basically the same thing. Both have curved blades but one is longer than the other. I feel like scythes would be easier to use because you're not bending over for the whole day :/
You best believe they wore stockings! Aside from just the fact that they did, you have to remember the logic that's still factual today: You WILL get terrible blisters if you do not. Especially in leather shoes. Like, this is straight fact. They just wouldn't have worn nice ones. 😅
Scruffy Wolfdog oh ok that would be around 86 degrees F and up. That’s the same temp for me too. (EDIT) ITS BEEN OVER 100 DEGREES F OVER HERE THATS WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO MELT
There's so much here that's just plain wrong. Here is how 18th century English haymakers actually dressed: www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/stubbs-haymakers-t02256
Does anyone else watch the ad, get filled up with the desire to comment and discuss, only to realize that nobody else saw the ad? Such disappointment. 1st world problems are a true burden to the soul.
It's about the same as we have, if you work it out- the shift protects the skin like underwear, but provides no support, so the stays go over the top to support the bust. The layers are thin and breathable, while also protecting against the sun before the days of sun screen lotion. When working in the outdoors and gardening you're also liable to come across stinging nettles and sharp bramble thorns so having longer sleeves or something to cover the legs helps mitigate getting shred to ribbons while berry picking or cutting along the hedge row. In even the intense heatwave we've got now I do all my gardening with jeans and a long sleeve shirt on while I'm tackling our bramble bush, so the layers are about equivolent.
No they didn't this was the 18th century women did not wear corsets they wore stays, and as the other video clearly says " in the 18 century stays were to support the bust not to restrict the waist". The restrictive tight whalebone corsets that made breathing difficult came later in the 19th century and only high class women wore then because no one was mad enough to work whilst wearing an item of clothing you can't breath in and they certainly did not wear them during pregnancy.
Patrick Ashby Hi! I did some research on corsets and the use of the word. It's origin comes from Old French, meaning "a kind of laced bodice." The word as we know it came into general use in the English language in 1828. It was used in women's fashion at the time to differentiate the lighter bodice from the heavier stays of the period. Today, corset seems to be used interchangeably with the word "stays", coming from the sources I found refering to body shaping garments as a corset. You're correct that women in the 18th century did not wear the same style of corset/stays as the women in the 19th century, which you referred to as whale-boned. In the 1700s, corsets/stays had a primary purpose of raising and shaping the breasts, tightening the midriff, supporting the back, and improving posture. Personally I wouldn't want to wear any kind of stiff clothing, but you know, societal norms. I was responding to the original comment in a matching tone to quickly give some examples why women still had as rough of a (or rougher!) time in the 18th century as men. I don't remember stating that pregnant women in that time period wore corsets/stays; I refered to child birth, which I think most can agree was a painful and sometimes deadly experience (comparable to war maybe?). However I just read about Victorian maternity corsets and am thoroughly horrified.
Hi Kelli I assumed by reading your comment that you meant the more restrictive clothing of later times that's why I replied to your comment. I have not worn the attire myself (not being that way inclined) but my wife has and she had only good things to say about how it supported her both bust and back, I have worn soldiers attire from both the Victorian and 18th century and I know which I prefer the 18th century is much more comfortable. And you are right both men and women had to endure pretty grim things in the past its not a competition.
I’m in love with the education beauty and serenity of this channel. I’m hooked! I love fashion history.
5 years late to this comment and still wanting to WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE. ❤ Hope you're doing well.
I honestly like the clothes of peasants better looking than that of the higher class
pay1370 Oh good, I'm not alone 😂
Same here
Same
pay1370 right??
IKR? They look like lots of fun to wear and look quite comfy!
Is anyone going to talk about how on point playing “Summer” from Vivaldi’s Four Seasons was?
HOW DID I MISS THIS?! IT'S MY FAVORITE CENTURY FOR FASHION, I LOVE THE WORKING CLASS CLOTHES THE MOST, AND IT'S SHOWING THEM IN SUMMER?! CrowsEyeProductions, you spoil me!
Oh your videos are always so nice, love the costumes, and the voiceover!
beautiful as always! and is that vivaldi's 'summer' in the background? how apropos haha
This is absolutely therapeutic to watch. This whole series is mesmerizing, whether they're getting dressed or not.
I love these videos, especially the narrator. I have a voice crush :3
This was cool and all, but we didn't see the process of getting dressed.
technically it's more an amendment to the first video- check the channels videos for 'getting dressed in the 18th century- working women' and you'll see they're wearing the first couple of layers from that :)
"American summers on the other hand... hoo boy!"
There's a letter from the 18th century that I've read from a man living in the US who was writing to his brother back home in England. Apparently the man in England was thinking about joining his brother in America and, to paraphrase, the brother was like, "Don't come. Change your plans. It's too hot." Hahaha
bh5496 up north is one thing, but in the south 😂
Question: Did they wear anything within their shoes if they forewent stockings?
homeiswonderland I believe stockings were pretty much always worn . If they weren’t worn, you were barefoot.
Shoerags (literally a soft rag wrapped around feet) and hay stuffing especially with cheaper wooden shoes was a thing at least in continental Europe
I love their hats and bonnets. Makes me wanna get my own, even though I barely go outside anymore.
What an awesome video! Seeing this channel on my feed is always lovely 😊
This makes me feel so nostalgic
Tetta Volante did you live in the 1700s because nostalgia means longing for a time in your own past
Lol ah yes I miss the good old days
ah the good old days. i miss being a slave.
Tetta Volante ah yes, i miss having no rights
I too miss the hot summers spent working on gathering hay so the family hopefully don’t all starve to death in the oncoming winter
Can you do something about when a lot of young girls started working in the linen industry's about the middle of 1800s?
thank you so much for making videos like this, it makes writing a comic so much easier
Love the channel, and really liked the video ... but ... where was the part which shows them putting the clothes on and explaining each element?
Great, I love these insights into the common folks of yester days. :) Very relatable.
Beautiful video, thank you for bringing history to life. 🙂
I love this but I wish the music towards the end was a little lower, like in the beginning. I have problems processing words sometimes and it was hard to hear/understand what was being said when the music got louder
Love it as always! And the music too
diva marie
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I’m in love with those amazing HATS
The music is a cute subtle musical node Summer, 1st movement - Allegro non molto from the Four season by Vivaldi.
loved it! thank you!
Humanity will never go back to this time. It’s impossible. I wish humanity was still natural like this
Ha! This English summer isn’t gentle or verdant! We’re being scorched and all the grass is brown. Lovely video.
Sheila S I was going to comment the same thing!
It’s gone back now to being a typical English summer lol
Aye, but pre industrial revolution we hadn't buggered up the countryside and set off global warming just yet- the last 18 years of this millenium have all been within the hottest 19 summers on record- I could do with an 18th century summer right now, that's for sure!
love the video looking forward to more on the outfit and mannerisms
The clothes of the working class peasants were more sensible than those of the upper class! I like their woven straw hats! Great for keeping the sun off of the face! ~Janet in Canada
I loved this, I do... I love how it was filmed, the cinematography, the voice over... but when those girls went to cut hay they did it with the kind of tenacity you would have for braiding hair. I laughed out loud and thought, "They will never get the hay cut at this rate!" Then I laughed some more when it cut from a few seconds of tender grass cutting to a picnic. I only wish it was that romantic and easy looking. These girls should have looked a sweaty mess with hair sticking to the sides of their faces. Just saying... ;) I grew up around farmers and no one looks that pretty in the field.
I mean the bulk of it would've probably be done by Daddy and Hubby with the family scythe, I reckon the women would probably be involved in carrying the hay, probably on their heads like you still see in some parts of the world
There are paintings of women cutting hay. History weirdly erases rural women and just leaves the impression that women were always these dainty pampered creatures. Strenuous physical labor was a regular part of life for peasant women. On the whole, people today are much weaker than people in the past.
I didn't say they didn't do strenuous labour, and yeah modern people need to get it into their heads that we do less work then even the most pampered people from the past.
Men would have used the scythes and women would have predominantly raked the hay and helped pile the stooks. Unfortunately, the field was due to be harvested by machine the following day and so we were not able to show real harvesting by hand.
The22726, exactly, I don't know why using a scythe would be any different than using a washing dolly or beating a rug.
Can anyone offer insight into how cultural reactions to visible stays and petticoats differ from now? Obviously our modern views of visible undergarments are complex, as they might have been then, and I suspect this concept probably provoked a more class-oriented reaction than a taboo one as it might (or might not) nowadays. But I'd really like to know more.
realistically they probably didnt care, if you worked the field, your priorities are not to be fashionable, but to be practical. and most of the etiquette and the societal norms we associate with the past were mainly reserved for the upper class elite and not the poor working class.
I don’t think seeing the linen or cotton underclothes was a problem, men often had them visible
Thanks a million. I always wanted to know about their dresses and particularly wanted to know why they kept their aprons tucked . I have found my answer. 🙏✌️👏💃💃💃💃💃💃💃
I now look for the "painting" that co-ordinates with these videos, because there often is one: "Haymaking" by
Jules Bastien-Lepage
I'm not gonna lie as a man this is beutiful to watch. I think some things should come back, but modernized.
More videos ! I love this series and I love fashion history !
Why the video is not longer? 😕
Oh, so that explains what was going on in the 1995 Sense and Sensibility movie. I had always wondered what on earth they were doing out in the field.
This was really informing and interesting, the only thing does anyone find the sounds of the crickets annoying? Unless it was just my laptop messing up.:) Keep it up!
Lovely scenery.
Is it Vivaldi's summer in the background? 😍
What is that background music?
It's really cool to know what women may have worn in my line of work way back when.
I love that they're playing Summer from Vivaldi's Four Seasons
Don't know how I got here, but I like it
Very beautiful and classy.
They might be dressed according to history, but the work is not depicted in an historically accurate way. They look like rich ladies playing commoners at harvest. Which I suppose they in reality are.
What is this style of hat called? I found similar-looking "Bergere" hats, but those seem to be smaller, tied differently, and worn at the back of the head.
I believe they just called them linen caps, by searching for 18th century linen caps I found different styles, which included very similar ones to the video
Could you guys make some videos about clothing in the 19th century (1800s) as well? That'd be pretty cool
Why do I want to live like this?
That straw hat is gorgeous I want one
From where we can buy this dress
I learned that the stays are underwear so you needed to cover them up and the shift should not be exposed. So, you’d need an outer layer. Help?
in the 18th century, stays were negligibly underwear-an upper class woman wouldn’tve gone outside with her stays exposed, but it was rather common for the lower classes in warmer weather.
In 2018, how the summer weather has changed due to the global warming! It is now unbearably hot in Britain!
You used to be able to grow wine grapes in the 12-1300's in northern England.
I honestly hate living in this world. I love that we have the privilege of these things but I hate it more. The global warming it causes is unbelievable. I hate how not many people think about it so we can’t change it. I think about it all the time. I hate how even if I try my hardest and do everything I can to stop it, it won’t make a difference. More and more people have to join in if we’re gonna change this world. Our water is running down by the minute, we’re running out of oxygen, we’re losing land, all for the things we want. We don’t NEED internet. We don’t NEED paper. We don’t NEED factories. Why can’t we go back to the way of doing things in the Olden days? It’s so innocent and calm. Making handmade items. Sewing our own clothes. Farming to grow our own food. Instead of eating junk food, grow a farm and grow fruits and vegetables! You can make tons of meals with just a single tomato. It makes my skin itch just thinking about what we’re doing to our earth. Our nature. Our world! What god created for us! Yes I won’t say it’s not nice to have these things, but it’s not worth what it’s doing to us. A single pack of paper, is a whole tree. They say, “For every tree we cut down, we plant 2.” Yeah it sounds good, but think. How long does it take to grow a full sized tree? About 20 years. We’re losing more than we’re gaining. We need to stop this! Everyone who’s reading this needs to try at least a month of using nature provided items. Just try. I hope by you reading this it has opened up your mind and made you realize the difference between today and then. Thank you
@@aroltrix447 we are running out of oxygen?! Erhmmm.. I think not, it is not that bad yet lol.
You do realise paper is not a modern invention right? It has been with us for a while. Nothing wrong with recycling paper. No reason to eliminate it entirely, it is needed.
Maybe less emotion and some harder facts? Or better yet, join a church and channel all that fundamentalism.
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It must be so hard to do those things back then
I love history
Belle!
catch me wearing this for decades day for my next spirit week
Seems like a good weekend to me....
I wouldn't have lasted in past eras. Out in the sun for more than 5 minutes? Instant sunburn.
Previous video: You put your stockings and shoes on first, because guess what, bending over in stays is not fun.
This video: Let's go cut some hay! With the stays on, of course - we're not animals.
Some commenters: On bigger estates, men did most of the hay cutting while women raked and piled and carried.
Me: Well thank fuck for small mercies, I guess.
Yeah you’d cut hay with scythes, not that women wouldn’t have collected the hay and tied it up in bundles
Was this in Britain or Australia? I want to know who was wearing these clothes
Its in the United Kingdom the Instagram link of the two models is in the description.
Jeez,isn't it obvious? Besides the narrator must have said 'English' about 26 times!!!
Sunburn in England?
Wow, the illusion was perfect until they started cutting hay. That was very obviously someone who'd never used a sickle in their lives before.
They didn't use scythes back then?
SoCalExile exactly what I was wondering.
They just said the women used scythes back then for haymaking at around 0:48
A sickle and a scythe is basically the same thing. Both have curved blades but one is longer than the other. I feel like scythes would be easier to use because you're not bending over for the whole day :/
They are ridiculously heavy. Faster, yes, but they wear you out so fast.
Scythes are pretty light. I have one :) If you're getting worn out, something's not right.
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I can't imagine doing farm/fieldwork in a corset. It's cumbersome enough just wearing one for a few hours of light activity.
Stays are not the same as corsets.
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You best believe they wore stockings! Aside from just the fact that they did, you have to remember the logic that's still factual today: You WILL get terrible blisters if you do not. Especially in leather shoes.
Like, this is straight fact.
They just wouldn't have worn nice ones. 😅
"english summers were only occasionally hot" **me in england literally burning** yeah
What’s the average temperature?
a lot lower than the regular 30 degrees we were getting this last june and july- that's 30 degrees celsius, I don't know exactly what that is in F.
Scruffy Wolfdog oh ok that would be around 86 degrees F and up. That’s the same temp for me too. (EDIT) ITS BEEN OVER 100 DEGREES F OVER HERE THATS WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO MELT
That's a cool winter's day here in Australia...
I wish we still had this slow serenity....but without all the sexism and racism.
You should do a "getting drested in the mottern age"
Those British girls are baddies 🇬🇧
Not so easy summers in Georgia, Florida, and some in between. Living in India must have been awful. With trying to keep the same clothing style.
Yeah, North America is either too hot, too cold or both
There's so much here that's just plain wrong. Here is how 18th century English haymakers actually dressed: www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/stubbs-haymakers-t02256
It seems they would feel very hot wearing that. It would not be hot in England though.
I don’t know why these videos were in my recommended but ok
God 20th -21st century fashion is garbage in comparison
"Equal rights! Equal rights! Equal rights!"
"Victoria, it's time to gather the hay harvest."
"Oh...poop!"
Work for men wasn't much fun either.
18th century fine but... which decade? Clothing changes in just on century.
don't girls just chill lol
Does anyone else watch the ad, get filled up with the desire to comment and discuss, only to realize that nobody else saw the ad? Such disappointment. 1st world problems are a true burden to the soul.
Still so many layers. Why?
It's about the same as we have, if you work it out- the shift protects the skin like underwear, but provides no support, so the stays go over the top to support the bust. The layers are thin and breathable, while also protecting against the sun before the days of sun screen lotion. When working in the outdoors and gardening you're also liable to come across stinging nettles and sharp bramble thorns so having longer sleeves or something to cover the legs helps mitigate getting shred to ribbons while berry picking or cutting along the hedge row. In even the intense heatwave we've got now I do all my gardening with jeans and a long sleeve shirt on while I'm tackling our bramble bush, so the layers are about equivolent.
If you think that's rough men wore just as much...and they had to go to war
dub2459 If you think that's rough women wore corsets under all that...and they had to give birth
No they didn't this was the 18th century women did not wear corsets they wore stays, and as the other video clearly says " in the 18 century stays were to support the bust not to restrict the waist".
The restrictive tight whalebone corsets that made breathing difficult came later in the 19th century and only high class women wore then because no one was mad enough to work whilst wearing an item of clothing you can't breath in and they certainly did not wear them during pregnancy.
Patrick Ashby Hi! I did some research on corsets and the use of the word. It's origin comes from Old French, meaning "a kind of laced bodice." The word as we know it came into general use in the English language in 1828. It was used in women's fashion at the time to differentiate the lighter bodice from the heavier stays of the period. Today, corset seems to be used interchangeably with the word "stays", coming from the sources I found refering to body shaping garments as a corset. You're correct that women in the 18th century did not wear the same style of corset/stays as the women in the 19th century, which you referred to as whale-boned. In the 1700s, corsets/stays had a primary purpose of raising and shaping the breasts, tightening the midriff, supporting the back, and improving posture. Personally I wouldn't want to wear any kind of stiff clothing, but you know, societal norms. I was responding to the original comment in a matching tone to quickly give some examples why women still had as rough of a (or rougher!) time in the 18th century as men. I don't remember stating that pregnant women in that time period wore corsets/stays; I refered to child birth, which I think most can agree was a painful and sometimes deadly experience (comparable to war maybe?). However I just read about Victorian maternity corsets and am thoroughly horrified.
Hi Kelli I assumed by reading your comment that you meant the more restrictive clothing of later times that's why I replied to your comment. I have not worn the attire myself (not being that way inclined) but my wife has and she had only good things to say about how it supported her both bust and back, I have worn soldiers attire from both the Victorian and 18th century and I know which I prefer the 18th century is much more comfortable. And you are right both men and women had to endure pretty grim things in the past its not a competition.