By some its said that this is the ultimate homage. They took a great watch and made it better...Or so I've heard! Seems like I didn't hear wrong judging from your video Bro! This does seem like a superbly made timepiece! I do like their hands more than the sub's. Thanks for sharing man!
Sorry to Rolex fans but i feel that this Ginault is far better looking than this old sub. Perhaps a better comparison would be the newer sub with Ceramic bezel.
For 1799USD, I do like this watch, however it would have been even better if it came with a SW300. And not because the SW200 isn't good, but the overall watch case and bracelet and dial is all so good, that it would deserve an SW300.
It does look good, but I think the only one that makes sense for my taste would be the fauxtina versions with that Mil Sub look. Damn good looking homage option though, and great comparison vid as usual bro! 😎👍🍻
My question too, exactly! I really like the Steinhart ocean one premium ceramics. But I am thinking about this Ginault too. I understand that this IS better than the Steinharts, but the question is: is it 3 times better? $1800 instead of $600. I seriously doubt it. At $900 I would very likely buy it...but double that at $1800 feels too steep.
@private464 I think it’s worth the premium. However when it comes to watch collecting, nothing is rational, it’s emotional. More how a watch makes you feel, not all about the specs 👍🏼
I own the Ginault OR2 and the Monta OK3, both are great watches. The Ginault is basically a smaller 116610 in terms of quality and how solid and premium it feels. It's really the ultimate RLX Sub homage the market has to offer.
Had a Monta and currently have an SS. To me, the Monta is a good watch, but it's a little boring to me. The SS case design and finishing are superior, in my opinion. I do love the Monta bracelet and how each link articulates. But it's close. The bracelets and clasps are both great. The movements SW300 vs. SW200-1 elaborate grade is also close. With the 6 weeks of regulation, you get COSC specs without COSC price passed to the consumer.
@@piotrszmidel Honestly I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. John has been extremely cordial and well spoken through the number of years I’ve communicated with him. What I do know is that the watches are extremely well-built, regardless of where they’re manufactured or assembled.
To be labeled as Made in America per the FTC all parts, items, machining build etc has to be 100% sourced and built in the US. FTC would be all over this guy if it was labeled American made. I think it says built in the USA, huge huge difference.
Yes, I once sent my Silent Service back for a repair, the same day the watch arrived back at Ginault, John recorded a video showing and explaining to me the damage and how I messed up the watch at his workbench. So yes very much he is building these watches in America. He hand build these watches by order and he can only build a handful each week. That's why the wait time was around 8 weeks after order placement.
@@rolexsubcasewearsbettertha9571 Yep, I've had two OR's and the quality is amazing for the price. I didn't like the goofy text on the dial and the unsigned clasp. I prefer the Monta but not its price!
I do believe that Ginault is a legit watch brand and a good watch brand brand. Had a Monta and currently have an SS. To me, the Monta is a good watch, but it's a little boring to me. The SS case design and finishing are superior, in my opinion. I do love the Monta bracelet and how each link articulates. But it's close. The bracelets and clasps are both great. The movements SW300 vs. SW200-1 elaborate grade is also close. With the 6 weeks of regulation, you get COSC specs without COSC price passed to the consumer.
I think the invicta is nowhere near the quality of the Ginault. I hv seen a couple of Invicta watches & i jus feel that the aesthetics & build quality is highly lacking. But then again, at its price pt, can’t expect too much.
So you're comparing the features of a post-ceramic clone to a pre-ceramic original, and you're giving credit the clone for copying the improvements Rolex made to the newer watches. Yeah, that seems legit.
Totally, lol. Like saying I have narrowed down my car purchase, its either the Honda Accord of the Porsche 911. The honda is just so close the Porsche. GTFO.
With the amount of effort put into this watch its a shame they didn't design something more unique. The Ocean Rover will be classed just as a Rolex clone and will grouped with the sub $250 chinese rip offs. Why not get a Invicta and have the mercedes hands too? (- because they are essentially fake watches) Ginault can clearly build a good quality watch, now they need to design their own. The Silent Service is a nod in the right direction.
If you dońt want to scream Rolex, maybe not buy a watch this is basically a copy of a Rolex. No originality…nothing that i would ever buy. Would rather go get a Longine, Sinn, Oris or Seiko.
So you're basically admitting Tudor = Rolex then? 😂 Before you think of buying anything learn to pass English 101 first.😂😂😂 I didn't know school taught watch hating 101 as a subject.
I look at my bank account and I can think of 100 better ways to spend the kind of money Rolex is charging. Nothing wrong with having a homage or two if you just like the looks. Look at vintage watches from the 50s or 60s, they all copied each other and nobody cared.
I own a RLX Sub and Tudor, after I got the OR2 I was thinking damn.....this is a damn good watch even compare to the big swiss boys for 1/6th the price. And I wonder how much more I paid for RLX marketing, true story.
These types of comparisons are just f**king stupid. Like dude saying, hmmm I have narrowed down to a Honda Accord or Porsche 911. These type review are just ridiculous and not based in any reality. Compare the watch to a price equivalent brand, not on the is 10x with forever long horological history, superior materials, build quality etc.
It is being compared because it is comparable, you clearly have no horological notions or manners for that matter... Personally after owning several subs , I am happier with the Ginault OR2 as the crown image simply sucks. Good watches, not great but the Rolex vibes are very deceiving... Great video BTW :)
It's an homage, for those that like the Rolex look but don't have the Rolex money or wait list time. If one wants more unique, Ginault has the Silent Service. Same quality but different case design.
Ginault punches way above its price tag. Great review and great watch!
@@BrokeWatchFanatic Thank you 🙏
Very articulate and informative comparison of this Ocean Rover to a 5 digit Submariner 👍. Thanks for the great content
@@EverydayWatchGuy Thank you 🙏 for the support brother!
By some its said that this is the ultimate homage. They took a great watch and made it better...Or so I've heard! Seems like I didn't hear wrong judging from your video Bro! This does seem like a superbly made timepiece! I do like their hands more than the sub's. Thanks for sharing man!
Honestly the quality is insane! Thank you 🙏 for watching!
Sorry to Rolex fans but i feel that this Ginault is far better looking than this old sub. Perhaps a better comparison would be the newer sub with Ceramic bezel.
Man the quality on these macros is amazing, beautiful watch
@@FightFramess Thank you 🙏
For 1799USD, I do like this watch, however it would have been even better if it came with a SW300. And not because the SW200 isn't good, but the overall watch case and bracelet and dial is all so good, that it would deserve an SW300.
@@Csibu89 Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts!
I have a Ginault ORII blue bezel no date. Very nice watch for the money.
@@Supercruze congrats beautiful watch!
Great reveiw! Hoping to add OR2 to go with my Silent Service soon
@@Wrist-rolls Thank you and I hope you do 👍🏼
It does look good, but I think the only one that makes sense for my taste would be the fauxtina versions with that Mil Sub look. Damn good looking homage option though, and great comparison vid as usual bro! 😎👍🍻
Thank you my brother ❤️
They have their own design in the Silent Service. Same excellent build quality.
Thank you for watching and commenting!
They already did.
It's called the silent service
@@ShortLifeHax 👍🏼
Looks epic for one tenth the price too
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Terrific stuff as always. I could watch your content all day, mate. In fact I sometimes do, just don't tell the boss!
I appreciate you man! Thank you 🙏
Not a watch for me personally, but can't deny the buid quality. Great job on the video my friend 👍.
@@timelesssneakersandwatches Thank you 🙏 for watching my friend!
Is it worth nearly 3X the price of a Steinhart Ocean One? I'll have my opinion next week when my Steinhart arrives.
My question too, exactly! I really like the Steinhart ocean one premium ceramics. But I am thinking about this Ginault too. I understand that this IS better than the Steinharts, but the question is: is it 3 times better? $1800 instead of $600. I seriously doubt it. At $900 I would very likely buy it...but double that at $1800 feels too steep.
Yes it’s worth the extra $. I really hope one day you get a chance to experience a Ginault in person 👍🏼
@private464 I think it’s worth the premium. However when it comes to watch collecting, nothing is rational, it’s emotional. More how a watch makes you feel, not all about the specs 👍🏼
Having owned both can categorically say the Ginault is much better watch. Overall build quality and refinement is night and day difference.
Cool review!
I appreciate your support brother!
For me, I'm saving a little more for a Monta or buying one on the used market for the same price.
@@ryanbane I love Monta, regret selling mine. Thank you for watching!
@@ryanbane I have the Monta OK v3 and the quality is top notch. Very close to my Tudor Monochrome. I'm a big Monta fan. Legit brand.
I own the Ginault OR2 and the Monta OK3, both are great watches. The Ginault is basically a smaller 116610 in terms of quality and how solid and premium it feels. It's really the ultimate RLX Sub homage the market has to offer.
Monta is good, but the Ginault OR2 is toe to toe with my Sub, speaking from experience of owing both and the Tudor.
Had a Monta and currently have an SS. To me, the Monta is a good watch, but it's a little boring to me.
The SS case design and finishing are superior, in my opinion. I do love the Monta bracelet and how each link articulates. But it's close. The bracelets and clasps are both great.
The movements SW300 vs. SW200-1 elaborate grade is also close. With the 6 weeks of regulation, you get COSC specs without COSC price passed to the consumer.
You really believe that John hand built Your watch in America?He need to be some kind of slave working 24/7 to hand build hundreds of watches,lol
@@piotrszmidel Honestly I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. John has been extremely cordial and well spoken through the number of years I’ve communicated with him. What I do know is that the watches are extremely well-built, regardless of where they’re manufactured or assembled.
To be labeled as Made in America per the FTC all parts, items, machining build etc has to be 100% sourced and built in the US. FTC would be all over this guy if it was labeled American made. I think it says built in the USA, huge huge difference.
Yes, I once sent my Silent Service back for a repair, the same day the watch arrived back at Ginault, John recorded a video showing and explaining to me the damage and how I messed up the watch at his workbench. So yes very much he is building these watches in America. He hand build these watches by order and he can only build a handful each week. That's why the wait time was around 8 weeks after order placement.
@@mattk9308 Thank you for sharing!
It's not hard to believe. He only creates a handful of watches every week. It takes an average of 2 months to get your watch once ordered.
The Monta Oceanking v3 is a better option from a legit watch brand.
@@maitrehg Monta is such a good watch! Thank you for watching!
I own both the Ginault OR2 and the Monta OK3. They are both great watches. The OR2 is basically Rolex Sub quality at 1/6th the price.
@@rolexsubcasewearsbettertha9571 💯
@@rolexsubcasewearsbettertha9571 Yep, I've had two OR's and the quality is amazing for the price. I didn't like the goofy text on the dial and the unsigned clasp. I prefer the Monta but not its price!
I do believe that Ginault is a legit watch brand and a good watch brand brand. Had a Monta and currently have an SS. To me, the Monta is a good watch, but it's a little boring to me.
The SS case design and finishing are superior, in my opinion. I do love the Monta bracelet and how each link articulates. But it's close. The bracelets and clasps are both great.
The movements SW300 vs. SW200-1 elaborate grade is also close. With the 6 weeks of regulation, you get COSC specs without COSC price passed to the consumer.
I am missing a third watch in this comparison. An Invicta ProDiver worth around $60-$100. 😁
@@pzwolski 😂 👍🏼
I think the invicta is nowhere near the quality of the Ginault. I hv seen a couple of Invicta watches & i jus feel that the aesthetics & build quality is highly lacking. But then again, at its price pt, can’t expect too much.
So you're comparing the features of a post-ceramic clone to a pre-ceramic original, and you're giving credit the clone for copying the improvements Rolex made to the newer watches.
Yeah, that seems legit.
Totally, lol. Like saying I have narrowed down my car purchase, its either the Honda Accord of the Porsche 911. The honda is just so close the Porsche. GTFO.
👍🏼 I know right?
Such degradation of the Submariner. Yet so many here covets a copy
@@peterlandbo2726 Thank you for your opinion 👍🏼
With the amount of effort put into this watch its a shame they didn't design something more unique. The Ocean Rover will be classed just as a Rolex clone and will grouped with the sub $250 chinese rip offs. Why not get a Invicta and have the mercedes hands too? (- because they are essentially fake watches) Ginault can clearly build a good quality watch, now they need to design their own. The Silent Service is a nod in the right direction.
I really hope they come out with their own designs, they would be killer watches!
$250? Try to get it @$250🤣
$250? Try to get it @$250🤣
$250? Try to get it @$250🤣
$250? Try to get it @$250🤣
If you dońt want to scream Rolex, maybe not buy a watch this is basically a copy of a Rolex. No originality…nothing that i would ever buy. Would rather go get a Longine, Sinn, Oris or Seiko.
@@tvo6453 👍🏼 thank you for watching!
So you're basically admitting Tudor = Rolex then? 😂
Before you think of buying anything learn to pass English 101 first.😂😂😂
I didn't know school taught watch hating 101 as a subject.
When you look at your wrist do you want to see a imposters or the real thing.
I look at my bank account and I can think of 100 better ways to spend the kind of money Rolex is charging. Nothing wrong with having a homage or two if you just like the looks.
Look at vintage watches from the 50s or 60s, they all copied each other and nobody cared.
Thank you 🙏 watching!
@@user-ig6nu4oo5p So saying I want to look like I own Rolex and a player but I cant and should be in Seiko. WTF lol
I own a RLX Sub and Tudor, after I got the OR2 I was thinking damn.....this is a damn good watch even compare to the big swiss boys for 1/6th the price. And I wonder how much more I paid for RLX marketing, true story.
I like them, but the vast amount of nonsense text on their dials puts me right off
@@shanephillips8735 👍🏼 thank you for watching!
@@SoCalWatchReviews The silent service was on my radar, but I eventually went for the NTH vintage gilt amphian milsub v2
@@shanephillips8735 Man the Silent Service is a great watch, but congrats on the pick up 👍🏼
@@SoCalWatchReviewsif they ever decide to keep it to two lines of text at the bottom of the dial, it will be ordered in a shot 😎🤙
These types of comparisons are just f**king stupid. Like dude saying, hmmm I have narrowed down to a Honda Accord or Porsche 911. These type review are just ridiculous and not based in any reality. Compare the watch to a price equivalent brand, not on the is 10x with forever long horological history, superior materials, build quality etc.
@@daleyfamily2179 Thank you for the positive encouragement 👍🏼
It is being compared because it is comparable, you clearly have no horological notions or manners for that matter...
Personally after owning several subs , I am happier with the Ginault OR2 as the crown image simply sucks. Good watches, not great but the Rolex vibes are very deceiving...
Great video BTW :)
@@alexxela3933 Thank you 🙏
Damn this is just a counterfeit Rolex that did not put Rolex as the name. At least have something different.
@@solidstream13 Thank you for watching 👍🏼
It's an homage, for those that like the Rolex look but don't have the Rolex money or wait list time. If one wants more unique, Ginault has the Silent Service. Same quality but different case design.