🏁 Lets Race! ⛵💨 Doublehanded Midwinters '24
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- Опубліковано 6 бер 2024
- In this one we're racing in the last race of the YRA Doublehanded Midwinters series. We got 4th place in this race. I may or may not make videos of other races in this series, as all the other races were light-wind races that weren't as eventful, but let me know if you want to see them anyway!
nice job! that's a lot of boat for 2
Thank you! Yeah, offshore it’s not too challenging, but around the cans it can be a handful.
That is insanely good quality video! Can only imagine the effort went to create it. And special thanks for featuring Sun Dragon in it (this SunFast boat at 24:35)
Thanks! I’ve made a bunch of cruising videos, but wanted to start making videos of our races, so this is what came out. We’re enjoying making them! Very cool boat you have! We’ll look forward to seeing you out there for other races.
Love how you share your strategy and the strategies of others. Great video for helping others to learn. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks! Glad that was valuable. It's actually really helpful for us too because we get to look back on it and see what we could have done better.
to avoid the skirting issue - try and keep old and new sheet of the jib in each hand - for example on starboard tack start with right hand close to the new winch and as you go through the tack ease with left hand the active sheet whilst pulling on the new sheet - walking across - you use your body weight to put extra weight / power- this will reduce the amount of sheet needed to be brought in once the sail is under tension and hence the chance of skirting
This jib is slightly overlapping, so that may work, but it’ll still leave a little (maybe 2-3 ft) of clue to bring in aft of the mast, and that may be enough to make us need to skirt. We’ll give your input a shot though! I’m open to trying anything. I think in the end, it also has something to do with our timing/coordination with one another, and just making sure we’re in sync and that I’m not steering through tacks too quickly.
that was fun thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
The jib would tack easier if she wouldn't tail with the line through the self tailer. It creates much more drag on the sheet. With a small jib like the one you were carrying, pulling the jib tight as possible then putting the sheet in the selftailer would help with keeping the jib off the stancheons and speed up the tacks helping to maintain more boatspeed. Just an observation. Nice race and good patience with maneuvers and tactics.
Thanks for the input! We’ve tried both ways of doing it, and at least for double-handing we found that the time it takes to wrap the line into the jaws and then do the final trim is a pretty big loss of time out of good trim. With the line in the jaws already you don’t lose any time between pulling and the final little grind in. I’m sure we’ll keep trying both methods to test what’s faster, but that’s the thinking behind starting the tack with the new working sheet in the jaws already.
Nice work. great narrative, great crew work. eventually you might benefit from some newer rags but the boat seems to go. keep it up!
Thank you! We’re hopefully putting out something unique on here. I got kinda tired of what I was seeing from other channels, so we decided to put out what we’d enjoy watching. A new asym and a new main are on our list for the coming year. She still moves along fairly well but I’d love to get a bit better shape out of the sails without as much fuss.
This is great, peter gustafsson put up an entire race a couple of years ago, entirely raw, not even comments just him and the crew shouting in swedish, been looking for that kind of content ever since :)
@@osten_petersson That's hilarious! Do you speak Swedish?
We had our first beercan of the season just a couple weeks ago with 25-28 true (32-35 on the sails/across the deck), and it was a mess! I'm putting it together at my leisure, but that'll be up eventually.
seems your main halyard could do with some more tension - big crease /fold just above the boom at the mast to is it because of downhaul tension ?
Not sure of the exact moment in the video you’re pointing to, but the main is fairly old, so its starting to take a lot of downhaul to move the draft forward. That’s what the big fold is. We also tend to release the downhaul in the downwind legs, and we get some minor scalloping in the luff. The other issues could be that we’re not hoisting quite all the way up or the main is cut a little to tall for the boat… thanks for the comment because it’s reminding me to take out the binos next time we sail to see where we are versus the white line at the masthead marking the “fully hoisted” position for the head.
Nice video, interesting to follow. Good matrix - 8kts boat speed 28-30 AWA - what boat is it, looks like a J105 or 109 ? Would be interesting to see other videos. We race a MAT 1070 in the Med so always interesting to see how others do it. Like the take down line set up. Our largest asymmetric is 130m2 a bit of a handful in a blow. Keep the videos coming. Just seen in your description that it is a J/133
Glad you enjoyed the video! We have one other race video up that's of a really strange race called the Three Bridge Fiasco (go around three marks in any order and in any direction). It's less wind, more challenging, but still kinda interesting. Otherwise we have a bunch of video of our cruising up and down the California coast, and that has some spicy sailing along the central coast.
We LOVE our takedown line. it makes life a lot easier when it comes time to take down the kite.
The MAT 1070 looks like a super fun boat! That's awesome! What's your top speed down wind so far?! It looks like a hull design that could really get moving, especially with that big a kite!
@@OurLadyDefiant Top speed so far was last year on a long regatta, 65 Nm all with spi, 15.4 kts but interestingly with a smaller spi of 112m2. Long story short we took delivery of the boat and 5 months later found that all the sails were smaller than we had expected/ordered, managed to get agreement to supply 3 new sails, main, jib and spi of the correct size but I only picked these up in January this year, so have not sailed downwind yet in anger with the 130m2 spi, hope to smash 15.4 kts easily. The J boats are notoriously fast with asymmetric spis as well.
@@barrymccrae7242 That’s strange that all the sails were “conservatively” cut. I hope you have a blast putting up the full suite of sail area!! We’ve gotten ours up to 17.5 down swell, and I think we’re aiming to push it into the 20s this summer… but we’ll see. It takes the right conditions when you’re double handing, otherwise its a little too hectic/dangerous.
Very nice racing.
Just a thought, shouldn't the helmswomen be the one giving the orders, just like the helmsman did earlier in the race?
Cheers,
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Thank you! Hope you enjoyed the ride-along.
Irina is still learning how to race, and she’s picking it up quickly, but I still have a good amount of knowledge more than she does, so I’m tactician for most situations. That said, we like to talk through a lot of things because she’s got a really good eye and intuition about things, so it helps prevent me from being too risk oriented or risk averse. We’ll probably end up in a spot where we’re both making recommendations and talking through them in real time with one another (for starts we’ll likely just defer to one or the other of us since there’s not a lot of time to talk/debate).
@@OurLadyDefiant Great! We are in a similar situation (but in our 60s) G has cruised the med for years and I have raced the Greatlakes for decades. Now in the PNW, lots to learn and accommodates!
Love it!
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interesting choices.
Were there any in particular you thought we’re odd ones? We think taking down the kite was entirely the wrong call.