I played some old warwick sporadically, and fell in love with him after the rework, he is my main to this day. I would love to see you play more of him
@@ultimatelifeform9741 I feel a little meh about voli as someone who loved old voli. New voli is fun. It's really just his casterlike e that had me eh about the rework
Been playing since beta, prerework Warwick and Galio were probably my two most played champions in the early seasons. Warwick's upgrade was absolutely amazing, but man do I miss old Galio.
i miss old galio Q so much, it was so satisfying hitting it, and it wasnt easy either, and the E giving movementspeed to your allies and yourself, and the W that you could use on teammate to redirect dmg and heal from it? I cant quite remember ! ANYWAYS ! He was a fine champ, dont know why they didnt keep his signature ult.
Warwick was my first real main, he remains one of my favorite champions. The did a perfect rework with Warwick. They didn't really change him, they just made him more interesting and raised his skill ceiling through the roof
how i wish that was the case foe other reworks, a lot of them, while making the champion more relevant or "fun", just have a completely different role and gameplay
4:36 hmmmmm, this is actually a newer addition to WW added in I think pre-season 11 or pre-season 12. before his passive was pure flat damage that only scaled with level. I remember seeing this change and having a long discussion about it with my friend
Dang, the old and new WW and Mord are complete opposites. They reworked WW from a low-skill expression champ who has most of their power in their ult that enemies would buy a qss for. For Mordekaiser, they reworked him INTO an arguably lower skill expressive champ compared to the old, who would have a reliance on ult that enemies would buy a qss for...
I'd argue new mord is more skill expressive, especially when his q and e are both skill shots that require a deeper thought process to land on mobile champs. His ult I can agree with, but if an adc buy's a QSS your priority target just switches, which IMO is a different form of skill expression in it's own right. But perhaps we have different definitions of what "skill expression" is. (Also this is not me critiquing your opinion, I just find it interesting how different our views are.)
I agree its kinda frustrating when they use QSS or some other item to cancel your ult and you are left inside. I wish they added a recast to end the ult sooner if the enemy escapes.
@@JOR569 Sure against immobile champs they are, but as soon as you run into a champ that can kite those abilities become heavily reliant on your skill level and how you manage to land them. If you need to slow down their AD's kiting you need to buy rylai's in order to slow them down, and IMO itemization is a form of skill expression that is reliant on your skill level with a specific champion. AKA higher skill-expression. Morde and his new q has much more "skill expression" than his old one. During the lane phase you want to maneuver yourself in a specific way that allows you to get isolated Q damage in order to win trades against your laner, vs old morde which essentially just had you walk up and bonk your lane opponent three times. His E has multiple applications as well, you can use it to pull enemies towards you in numerous different ways, and also keep them away from you. And while the ability is pretty easy to land early game, once your going against a late game AD, your essentially fucked if you miss it.
This rework is the best one they have done by far. The playstyle remained almost unchanged unlike Aatrox or sion, while adding so much more depth and interaction to the whole kit without overtuning him like some other reworks did Irelia and Akali.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 You realize overtuned Champs get nerfed all the time right? Irelia was busted asf when she came out, gutted tons of stuff she used to be able to do.
@@decidueyezealot8611 hmm let me see some of the champions that got nerfed lately. Jayce, lee sin, ryze, jinx, soraka, xayah. Truely overtuned champions holy sh*t. Strong =/= overtuned. Did you look at aphelios winrate?
These are great videos, I remember when I started playing league feeling sad that I could never find out what the old versions of champs did out of curiosity so I’m really glad you’re making these
@@Megaman-2407 they are pretty hard to find. At least in my experiance(i may just not know ehere to look) but when u shearch for the stuff it just comes up eith the rework anoucments and abilities and people talking about the rework. Nothin/not much about the old
it's really hard to find accurate information on older champions, considering all the slander and misinformation going around. this is one of the few channels that will give you the information straight, although sometimes they don't quite hit the mark (old galio's video)
i remember there was like a clip where old warwick just pressed right click on someone and then afked for a bit and got like a double kill or something
I remember seeing warwick when I played on my brothers pc sometimes back in like, 2015/2014. I'd love to play a lot of the older champions that has been re-worked and feel how they were before the re-work.
There was fan made legacy version of the game being made called the chronoshift project that would allow people to play an older version of league but Riot shut it down because they're shitty
This was the first champ I mastered (post-rework ww), climbed out of iron/bronze, got my M7, and I still didn't even scratched the surface of the nuance he had (with hold Q, if you use E at the end or start of fight, E-ult to cc whole team, barrier as a viable broken spell because of his passive as a toplaner...). There is a lot of complexity and details for a champion so simple to play, and I liked how you highlighted them so well (I didn't even remembered if they revealed enemies out of sight. That Teemo clip was really good!)
yeah aatrox is my main...subbing to the channel just to see that ep, i miss old aatrox but the new one has his charm aswell, aatrox could however, only have a healthy state nowadays as a auto attacker if riot wasnt fucking retarded, look at M yi and Trynda right now, absolutely disgusting game design, i would hate to see aatrox as an auto attacker in a similar spot, lethal tempo spamming with no proper balance....i do fear for what they could have fucked up if this rework hadnt happened.
I was an old Warwick main, and just being able to perma heal due to the lack of grievous wounds was the most ridiculous thing I experienced, I'd lock in Warwick in any role (yes even support) and just rush bloodthirsters. Being able to point and click suppress like Malz, on top of all the ridiculous lifesteal, was power we were not meant to wield
Built in heaing? the list is too long.. system healing even makes it worse.. as if goredrinker wasnt busted on release.. and what does point and click supress have to do with the fact that warwick is outclassed at what he does by just about every meta skirmisher: irelia, yone, yasuo yi.. to name a few.. yone and yasuo may not have "point and click supress" but they have enough lockdown in their kit to keep u in your place.. U just described warwick and suggested I find another champion with warwicks kit as if that changes anything..
@@SuperMortalix are you silly, none of them have a supress, and only irelia has built in healing (not that much until later levels, not nearly as much as vlad or ww).
@@SuperMortalix the real problem is item and rune healing, which is being addressed, not the champions themselves. And of the champions you named, none of those are particularly in meta, they are just high pick rate champions regardless.
Old Warwick was my favorite jungler, He was one of the most sleeper op champion in the game...people just didn't know how to build him. Or his optimum skill order for that matter. Old warwick could completely run the game in ways new warwick just can't.
You also missed something of his Q. It gives him unstopable for a little. Meaning. He is invulnerable to any kind of CC on the time cast. Bwing able to use it like a parry.
Yeah it ignores displacements so its not exactly unstoppable. But I get what you're saying that the damage still goes through. But you cant Q through a root or stun or anything. But its awesome to just Q through a Rammus about to hit you. Also you can Q Morde Ult on reaction which imo is crazy
getting recommended this video made me so nostalgic for the days when i first started playing league. i used to one trick pre-rework evelynn and now i don't even jungle anymore... wish i could go back. if only league had a legacy patch server
Dude the fact that I've been there a while before Warwick was reworked makes me very nostalgic. I've been a part of this game, it's universe and it's community for around 5 years if my mind serves me correctly. That's insane. I love League of Legends. Here's to many more years to come!
This champion is a reason why I got into the game. When I saw him he looked so good and he made me learn the game very quickly. And i think i went to jungle immediately with him and started to learn about the role by myself with him for some time. With Garen and WW those were my 1st champs i picked all the time
Old Warwick was my first main when I got into League of legends. He was simple to use and when fed you felt unkillable and it was pretty much impossible to mess up which was great for a new player like me at the time. I eventually moved away from him almost all together because it wasn't super amazing to play as. Every game felt like the same thing and you could play him with one hand so he was quite boring. The rework came out and it was the best VGU they have ever done. I didn't end up playing him a ton though as I was more of a support main, playing Bard and Rakan. But I think it was pre-season to season 9 I started playing him a ton more because my playstyle changed from being a support that sets people up to just enjoying the combat itself which new WW was perfect for and there was something satisfying about managing to kill like 4 people while constantly fighting and barely staying alive the whole time.
5:22 you can even accidentally cast it to enemies that is recalling and follow them to their base (right before the recall finished), that happened to me in wildrift
I only started playing WW after the rework, and I loved it immediately. On another note, as a WW player, my dream is to perfectly time an enemy's teleport (or Shen's ultimate) with my Q to appear with them on the other side of the map. I practiced it with a friend in a custom match and it works.
it happened to me in one of my first ever league games I didn't hold it though there is actually a small fucking frame where ww initiates his q before hitting the enemy if they finish tp at that exact frame it would act as if you're holding Q there is also 1 fucking frame where you can damage someone who is recalling pretty famous bug that has appeared in pro play quite a lot anyway....... I ended up using Q on a target who was recalling and getting that magic frame and because it was one of my first league games and I didn't know how ww Q works I was so fucking confused.
I liked old WW way more then the new one! He played way less clunky! He was my very first main. I always played him with Madreds Bloodrazor (lovely item) on original twisted treeline (my favorite map ever)
i mained old warwick as a midlaner, i used to build him full ap and just use my q all the time, it healed so much it felt stupid i eventually abandoned the champion for some time after the rework cuz ap didnt work that much anymore but in season nine i started playing him again building full ad in toplane and jungle, and actually fell in love with him once more. he became my main and most loved champion quickly and i even saved blue essence for an entire year and bought the urfwick skin i feel amazingly honoured to have started playing with that clunky ass champion and still fall in love with both of his versions despite how differently i played them tbh i still play him almost the same, just walk up and q my laning opponent until they die cuz i out sustain them lol
My favorite memory of old ww was watching some streamer build the basic ww jg build with Wriggle’s Lantern and Bork, click on some random champ, and afk for 15 seconds as the enemy died.
This old summoners rift gives me flashbacks of playing ashe and sivir in 2011, when u could use V button as second sivirs ult, and it seems that 3v3 was more popular than 5v5
One additional thing. Warwick's long Q is unstoppable, and can be used to get out of all sorts of bad situations. It also makes him great into champions like sett or fiora who rely on directional bursts.
At some point I wanted to play something else in the jungle and I chose him because I thought the compilations were insane. My favorite thing was timing the enemy's mobility and flash and it felt so incredibly satisfying.
God I remember playing old WW, my favorite game with him was only backing once the entire game for mobie boots and tiamat to clear and just farmed till my ult came up then went to a lane to ult someone then ran back to farm. Ended the game with almost 10k in my pocket, fun times he was. XD
I started League back in preseason 1 when irelia was released and one of my first Champs I played and mained was WW, the rework blew my mind when I came back to league after almost a year of a break and to this day I wouldn't wish for something else. His Visuals and Game play are perfectly matched, that was a job well done by the design Team
I did play both new and old ww, new one is by far one of my favourite champions to play as in general, only bad thing i can say about ww is just how buggy his abilities tend to be half the times which can get rly annoying at times but that is less of a ww fault and more of a league of legends spaghetti code fault
Different games but reminds me of a champ who was a supp and dealt magic DMG, except his magic DMG ratio was through the roof and his kit gave him so much cool down that he could hit you for over 3k dmg in a matter of secs and then do it all over again in about 10-15 secs. Remains the most broken character release to this day in that game.
I remember playing the old Warwick during red smite top meta where level 6 you would point and click oneshot everyone by doing red smite R with the item. That being said, I never really enjoyed old warwick, but new warwick is one of my favourites in the game
Old WW was my one trick pony to get to Diamond in 2014. Plan: Farm to lvl 6, solo dragon at lvl 3 if safe, then emerge out the jungle as an absolute unit and win the game. Good times.
I played old warwick in season 5 when jungle item update made him broken. Devourer was my favorite item EVER in league and still is even though it was completely broken.
I played old WW from time to time as his fantasy of being a healing werewolf that claws you to death sounded cool to me, but always grew bored quick because it really came down to pressing ult which is funny but not for 10+ games. New Warwick did basically everything I wanted the champ to do, while maintaining the soul of his old abilities, probably the most successful rework along with Panth as these only seemed to add to the original champs, instead of replace.
When I started to play League, I started with Warwick and main the shit out of him. I played him top, I played him mid, even supp and even tho I miss his old W to shred towers, I love everything else. This rework was amazing, he looks like he belongs in Zaun, his gameplay is more wild than the old one and the best part was the release date, January 25th, my Birthday. 10/10 rework
I don’t know if anyone feels the same but I really miss Poppy’s old kit. Her new visuals are superior in every aspect but the kit not so much. Yeah you technically could build her as a tank and terrorize one person in particular because the enemy Janna couldn’t damage you but if you built her with damage either Ad for stat checking auto attacker or a burst ap assassin she felt so satisfying.
I remember a time when me as Warwick and a Ramus stood and punched eachother for like 2 min straight until someone came and interupted us. I got down to like half health and ramus down to a third.
Imo Warwick's rework is one of the most healthy and thematically fitting additions in modern League of Legends. His W is perfect for a champion that's supposed to be a hunter. Besides of Warwick, some of the only "recent" champions I can think of that are designed that well are Kled and Jhin. Kled in lore is all about fighting and "taking property" no matter what the odds are, so his whole kit encourages him to fight whenever possible and take on risky fights. Jhin in lore is based on the number 4 and assassinating enemies with his rifle and his kit reflects that perfectly. These 3 champs are basically never hated, because there's no forced bullshit in their kit like stealth or true damage. Also they've got clear weaknesses and counterplay. I hope riot will make more reworks/champion releases like these, a lot of recent ones were rather disappointing.
I loved the old Warwick since I got my first Penta as him and would challenge enemies to 1v1s in drag pit trying to out sustain them with on hit builds. I do enjoy the rework tho, just got good memories with the old one.
I hate that wws W is global, i rly dislike when i m playing top for example and I m beeing punished cuz anyone on the map has low hp ad that makes ww able to run away in any direcion with lightspeed. Its especially annoying when casting spells like Aatrox Qs, W or shit like this
I played old warwick once when i was new and tried jungle out. I did horribly and team flamed me so hard for it, i didnt pick up warwick again till his rework. And while i dont play any more hes def one ofnmy favorite tankd to play as.
warwick was the first champ that I bought along with pantheon (who also had an amazing rework). If I remember correctly, he was 3,300 IP back then. Gahd! I miss marauder's gauntlet as much as I miss adaptive helm. I always built marauder's gauntlet on warwick, panth, and j4. Good times.
For those who never got to see the old warwick, I figured I’d give some context on how insane he was when red smite was introduced. Warwick could just farm to level 6 without getting a single kill and then oneshot almost any adc in the game with smite+Ult and whatever items he got from just farming. Lvl 6 was a guaranteed kill as long as you didn’t get cc’ed out of Ult.
The only really vivid memory I have of old Warwick was stuffing his ults with Thresh flays lol. If I ever needed to jungle in the 4.20 weedwick era I usually played onhit Shyvana instead. New Warwick is super fun though, even if his ult skillshot is really thin. I know why they don't want it to scale with his size but I kinda wish it did, I've threaded the needle way too many times with it.
Old WW was the first ever champ I played along with old Dr. Mundo and Pantheon... and I definitely love their reworks. But old Aatrrox? Man I miss that champ and old Akali
If you rework a champion and you didn't have to touch a single thing about their kit for months and months on end, like Warwick, you can declare it a perfect rework.
I really hate that ww can be removed when he already hit the enemy with his R, I mean thats a supression, they can even remove the cc from the ultimate
I love the new WW, because he actually has a lot depth and isn't just auto attack and Ult the adc. He just feels really good. You actually feel like a terror running around the rift. When you are chasing a champ low on health and his movement speed kicks in and you see the range on your Ult go through the roof as you're hunting them down you just feel like a savage wolf about to catch some prey. He is an absolute terror in low elo and is banned frequently. He kinda falls off around Gold 1/Plat. There's just better Champs, but low elo people have a hard time dealing with him.
I remember when I played that warwick was pretty fun to play. I didn't know he was reworked until a week after first timing him. I just thought he was fun. Nothing more and nothing less
As a person who played both versions of Warwick quite a bit let me tell You. There were good parts of both. Simplicity is good. Point and click suppress is fun. You were an absolute nightmare for back liners. However, unlike many of Ritos reworks, Warwick's was good. For all the reasons listed above and more. I do miss the old Warwick. But I am not angry at the changes they made.
Have been looking forward to this ever since you mentioned it on my comment on the Poppy video, and from all the champs that have been reworked since I started playing Warwick is by far the one I love the most since he can be played in so many ways, some obviously more serious than other...and full movement speed is one of the funniest things to do in ARAM since you can almost clear half the lane with a full build at the speed of light. Also a moment of silence for old Aatrox, the only champion that has actually been removed from League entirely...why couldnt it have been Fizz Riot?...Why couldnt it have been Fizz?
I played some old warwick sporadically, and fell in love with him after the rework, he is my main to this day. I would love to see you play more of him
Sad that not all champ VGUs followed a similair direction has WW, he is by far the best one. Fiddle and Panth were also amazing
Here here! Too many freaking anime girls in this game.
voli, nunu and willump as well tbh most jg reworks are bangers
@@ultimatelifeform9741 I feel a little meh about voli as someone who loved old voli. New voli is fun. It's really just his casterlike e that had me eh about the rework
@@shadows_star yeah new voli is really fun but that e is very odd
I think ww is one of the better ones but I think sions was the best. This coming from a old ww main.
Been playing since beta, prerework Warwick and Galio were probably my two most played champions in the early seasons. Warwick's upgrade was absolutely amazing, but man do I miss old Galio.
i miss old galio Q so much, it was so satisfying hitting it, and it wasnt easy either, and the E giving movementspeed to your allies and yourself, and the W that you could use on teammate to redirect dmg and heal from it? I cant quite remember ! ANYWAYS ! He was a fine champ, dont know why they didnt keep his signature ult.
@@alucardnolifeking789 old galio was terrible what are you on about.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 Nice troll, stfu now.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 he was very fun imo
Funny how Riot gave one the best rework ever, then removed the other from the game. What the hell did Galio even do wrong???
His splash art before the rework was so beautiful, I love it more than his new one. Seriously that thing needs to be put in a museum
All old splash arts are scary and serious today skins are joke .. that's why I miss old twisted tree line scary and spooky music
Warwick was my first real main, he remains one of my favorite champions. The did a perfect rework with Warwick. They didn't really change him, they just made him more interesting and raised his skill ceiling through the roof
how i wish that was the case foe other reworks, a lot of them, while making the champion more relevant or "fun", just have a completely different role and gameplay
i'm so loving this series mate please continue with all the heroes you like
4:36 hmmmmm, this is actually a newer addition to WW added in I think pre-season 11 or pre-season 12. before his passive was pure flat damage that only scaled with level. I remember seeing this change and having a long discussion about it with my friend
Dang, the old and new WW and Mord are complete opposites.
They reworked WW from a low-skill expression champ who has most of their power in their ult that enemies would buy a qss for. For Mordekaiser, they reworked him INTO an arguably lower skill expressive champ compared to the old, who would have a reliance on ult that enemies would buy a qss for...
I'd argue new mord is more skill expressive, especially when his q and e are both skill shots that require a deeper thought process to land on mobile champs. His ult I can agree with, but if an adc buy's a QSS your priority target just switches, which IMO is a different form of skill expression in it's own right. But perhaps we have different definitions of what "skill expression" is.
(Also this is not me critiquing your opinion, I just find it interesting how different our views are.)
I agree its kinda frustrating when they use QSS or some other item to cancel your ult and you are left inside. I wish they added a recast to end the ult sooner if the enemy escapes.
@@JOR569 Sure against immobile champs they are, but as soon as you run into a champ that can kite those abilities become heavily reliant on your skill level and how you manage to land them. If you need to slow down their AD's kiting you need to buy rylai's in order to slow them down, and IMO itemization is a form of skill expression that is reliant on your skill level with a specific champion. AKA higher skill-expression.
Morde and his new q has much more "skill expression" than his old one. During the lane phase you want to maneuver yourself in a specific way that allows you to get isolated Q damage in order to win trades against your laner, vs old morde which essentially just had you walk up and bonk your lane opponent three times.
His E has multiple applications as well, you can use it to pull enemies towards you in numerous different ways, and also keep them away from you. And while the ability is pretty easy to land early game, once your going against a late game AD, your essentially fucked if you miss it.
@@EboyNxtDoor you had to play old morde to understand the weird laning strategies with his W, not everyone could pull that off
@@Dragunov_07 ????? what , are you talking about
This rework is the best one they have done by far. The playstyle remained almost unchanged unlike Aatrox or sion, while adding so much more depth and interaction to the whole kit without overtuning him like some other reworks did Irelia and Akali.
Irelia isnt overtuned at all.
@Its Gonna Be Okay all the nerfs she's been getting since her rework say otherwise.
@@decidueyezealot8611 that has nothing to do with the being overtuned or not.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 You realize overtuned Champs get nerfed all the time right? Irelia was busted asf when she came out, gutted tons of stuff she used to be able to do.
@@decidueyezealot8611 hmm let me see some of the champions that got nerfed lately.
Jayce, lee sin, ryze, jinx, soraka, xayah. Truely overtuned champions holy sh*t. Strong =/= overtuned. Did you look at aphelios winrate?
I do miss how incredibly simple old ww was (he was always my pick when I had to jungle) but the new kit is beautifully elegant.
I remember back then when Jungle is a threat to jungler, WW is my best and safe pick.
These are great videos, I remember when I started playing league feeling sad that I could never find out what the old versions of champs did out of curiosity so I’m really glad you’re making these
i mean you can still see riot old spotlight
@@Megaman-2407 they are pretty hard to find. At least in my experiance(i may just not know ehere to look) but when u shearch for the stuff it just comes up eith the rework anoucments and abilities and people talking about the rework. Nothin/not much about the old
@@Maxtech50 you just scroll down abit bruh is that too hard?
it's really hard to find accurate information on older champions, considering all the slander and misinformation going around. this is one of the few channels that will give you the information straight, although sometimes they don't quite hit the mark (old galio's video)
i remember there was like a clip where old warwick just pressed right click on someone and then afked for a bit and got like a double kill or something
Already looking forward to a 1 hour rant Video about the Aatrox rework
I remember seeing warwick when I played on my brothers pc sometimes back in like, 2015/2014. I'd love to play a lot of the older champions that has been re-worked and feel how they were before the re-work.
There was fan made legacy version of the game being made called the chronoshift project that would allow people to play an older version of league but Riot shut it down because they're shitty
@@sammythesammyfan8809 chronoshit was a ploy. it was never going to be released for the public to play. even if it was, it wouldn't have been good.
I liked old WW, but I definitely prefer the rework much more. He's more entertaining to play
I absolutely LOVE this style of video. So happy you're making this type of content along with your normal content. Keep it up man
This was the first champ I mastered (post-rework ww), climbed out of iron/bronze, got my M7, and I still didn't even scratched the surface of the nuance he had (with hold Q, if you use E at the end or start of fight, E-ult to cc whole team, barrier as a viable broken spell because of his passive as a toplaner...). There is a lot of complexity and details for a champion so simple to play, and I liked how you highlighted them so well (I didn't even remembered if they revealed enemies out of sight. That Teemo clip was really good!)
Laning as old ww was really interesting with the old q. His new range and move speed makes him feel clunky
Love this series cant wait to see the aatrox ep, i'm sure you'll have nothing but kind words for the masterminds at riot.
yeah aatrox is my main...subbing to the channel just to see that ep, i miss old aatrox but the new one has his charm aswell, aatrox could however, only have a healthy state nowadays as a auto attacker if riot wasnt fucking retarded, look at M yi and Trynda right now, absolutely disgusting game design, i would hate to see aatrox as an auto attacker in a similar spot, lethal tempo spamming with no proper balance....i do fear for what they could have fucked up if this rework hadnt happened.
I was an old Warwick main, and just being able to perma heal due to the lack of grievous wounds was the most ridiculous thing I experienced, I'd lock in Warwick in any role (yes even support) and just rush bloodthirsters. Being able to point and click suppress like Malz, on top of all the ridiculous lifesteal, was power we were not meant to wield
U mean like just about every skirmisher can do now?
@@SuperMortalix name a single skirmisher with a point and click supress and built in healing?
Built in heaing? the list is too long.. system healing even makes it worse.. as if goredrinker wasnt busted on release.. and what does point and click supress have to do with the fact that warwick is outclassed at what he does by just about every meta skirmisher: irelia, yone, yasuo yi.. to name a few.. yone and yasuo may not have "point and click supress" but they have enough lockdown in their kit to keep u in your place..
U just described warwick and suggested I find another champion with warwicks kit as if that changes anything..
@@SuperMortalix are you silly, none of them have a supress, and only irelia has built in healing (not that much until later levels, not nearly as much as vlad or ww).
@@SuperMortalix the real problem is item and rune healing, which is being addressed, not the champions themselves. And of the champions you named, none of those are particularly in meta, they are just high pick rate champions regardless.
I got M7 pre-rework and I miss him :(
but definitely prefer the new one- i just want the point and click ult and the unlimited w range lol
One of the best league series I've seen IMO. Keep up the good work Cryo.
I hope he talks about failed reworks like Leblanc and Rengar.
Old Warwick was my favorite jungler,
He was one of the most sleeper op champion in the game...people just didn't know how to build him.
Or his optimum skill order for that matter.
Old warwick could completely run the game in ways new warwick just can't.
I miss old warwick
You also missed something of his Q.
It gives him unstopable for a little. Meaning. He is invulnerable to any kind of CC on the time cast. Bwing able to use it like a parry.
It avoids displacements, not all CC
@@valonzeneli4614 the cc applied to displacements too
@@snootgamenotofficial Yes but I mean it doesn't stop stuns, silences etc
@@valonzeneli4614 still, the Q doesnt stop, meaning, ittechnically reduces the time stunning, or silenced
Yeah it ignores displacements so its not exactly unstoppable. But I get what you're saying that the damage still goes through. But you cant Q through a root or stun or anything. But its awesome to just Q through a Rammus about to hit you. Also you can Q Morde Ult on reaction which imo is crazy
getting recommended this video made me so nostalgic for the days when i first started playing league. i used to one trick pre-rework evelynn and now i don't even jungle anymore... wish i could go back. if only league had a legacy patch server
Love to see you using Stonewall008 gameplay. God I miss that dude
Warwick is one of those champions who I play from time to time but always consider getting good with.
Great choice for a video :D
It's very very funny to me that you release this video a few days after I start spam picking WW in my ranked games LOL
Dude the fact that I've been there a while before Warwick was reworked makes me very nostalgic. I've been a part of this game, it's universe and it's community for around 5 years if my mind serves me correctly. That's insane. I love League of Legends. Here's to many more years to come!
This champion is a reason why I got into the game. When I saw him he looked so good and he made me learn the game very quickly. And i think i went to jungle immediately with him and started to learn about the role by myself with him for some time. With Garen and WW those were my 1st champs i picked all the time
Old Warwick was my first main when I got into League of legends. He was simple to use and when fed you felt unkillable and it was pretty much impossible to mess up which was great for a new player like me at the time. I eventually moved away from him almost all together because it wasn't super amazing to play as. Every game felt like the same thing and you could play him with one hand so he was quite boring. The rework came out and it was the best VGU they have ever done. I didn't end up playing him a ton though as I was more of a support main, playing Bard and Rakan. But I think it was pre-season to season 9 I started playing him a ton more because my playstyle changed from being a support that sets people up to just enjoying the combat itself which new WW was perfect for and there was something satisfying about managing to kill like 4 people while constantly fighting and barely staying alive the whole time.
5:22 you can even accidentally cast it to enemies that is recalling and follow them to their base (right before the recall finished), that happened to me in wildrift
I only started playing WW after the rework, and I loved it immediately.
On another note, as a WW player, my dream is to perfectly time an enemy's teleport (or Shen's ultimate) with my Q to appear with them on the other side of the map. I practiced it with a friend in a custom match and it works.
it happened to me in one of my first ever league games I didn't hold it though there is actually a small fucking frame where ww initiates his q before hitting the enemy if they finish tp at that exact frame it would act as if you're holding Q there is also 1 fucking frame where you can damage someone who is recalling pretty famous bug that has appeared in pro play quite a lot anyway....... I ended up using Q on a target who was recalling and getting that magic frame and because it was one of my first league games and I didn't know how ww Q works I was so fucking confused.
I liked old WW way more then the new one! He played way less clunky! He was my very first main. I always played him with Madreds Bloodrazor (lovely item) on original twisted treeline (my favorite map ever)
i mained old warwick as a midlaner, i used to build him full ap and just use my q all the time, it healed so much it felt stupid
i eventually abandoned the champion for some time after the rework cuz ap didnt work that much anymore but in season nine i started playing him again building full ad in toplane and jungle, and actually fell in love with him once more. he became my main and most loved champion quickly and i even saved blue essence for an entire year and bought the urfwick skin
i feel amazingly honoured to have started playing with that clunky ass champion and still fall in love with both of his versions despite how differently i played them
tbh i still play him almost the same, just walk up and q my laning opponent until they die cuz i out sustain them lol
My favorite memory of old ww was watching some streamer build the basic ww jg build with Wriggle’s Lantern and Bork, click on some random champ, and afk for 15 seconds as the enemy died.
Old WW is like a fever dream compared to the rework. Also the teaser for the re-release is still one the best champ teasers in the game.
This old summoners rift gives me flashbacks of playing ashe and sivir in 2011, when u could use V button as second sivirs ult, and it seems that 3v3 was more popular than 5v5
One additional thing. Warwick's long Q is unstoppable, and can be used to get out of all sorts of bad situations. It also makes him great into champions like sett or fiora who rely on directional bursts.
Ah, devourer. Many people remember that item with resentment, but as a long time jungle main, it brings nothing but good memories
At some point I wanted to play something else in the jungle and I chose him because I thought the compilations were insane. My favorite thing was timing the enemy's mobility and flash and it felt so incredibly satisfying.
God I remember playing old WW, my favorite game with him was only backing once the entire game for mobie boots and tiamat to clear and just farmed till my ult came up then went to a lane to ult someone then ran back to farm. Ended the game with almost 10k in my pocket, fun times he was. XD
I played the old warwick and he was my main counter to soraka mains. But when he got the rework he was my main jungle champ ever since
Warwick was a beast back then because he could share his attack speed and he actually has vision on dying enemies instead of just smoke trails.
i solo drag lvl 3 lmao those were the days
@@minh_d3475 I used to solo drag on 2. God bless those attack speed runes.
I started League back in preseason 1 when irelia was released and one of my first Champs I played and mained was WW, the rework blew my mind when I came back to league after almost a year of a break and to this day I wouldn't wish for something else. His Visuals and Game play are perfectly matched, that was a job well done by the design Team
I only miss the old WW because there was a custom skin that turned him into Crash Bandicoot and it looked funny when you Q'd someone
I never played the old Warwick, but he was my sister's ex's main so I saw him a lot when playing
I enjoyed this video a lot… I want to see the evolution of champions more often 👍🏼
I did play both new and old ww, new one is by far one of my favourite champions to play as in general, only bad thing i can say about ww is just how buggy his abilities tend to be half the times which can get rly annoying at times but that is less of a ww fault and more of a league of legends spaghetti code fault
Old Warwick brings me back to good old days in season 3 bronze. Saw a player stacking only lifesteal just because the ult said it porcs that.
Love your Videos
I hope you are doing more guides but these kind of videos are also amazing
Fun fact, you are also unstopable while doing the q dash, meaning you can doge stuns and even bard's R if u time it correctly.
Different games but reminds me of a champ who was a supp and dealt magic DMG, except his magic DMG ratio was through the roof and his kit gave him so much cool down that he could hit you for over 3k dmg in a matter of secs and then do it all over again in about 10-15 secs. Remains the most broken character release to this day in that game.
I remember playing the old Warwick during red smite top meta where level 6 you would point and click oneshot everyone by doing red smite R with the item. That being said, I never really enjoyed old warwick, but new warwick is one of my favourites in the game
I only played old ww from my very first game to lvl 30 in s4 then played him everyday until his rework. I miss him dearly
Old WW was my one trick pony to get to Diamond in 2014.
Plan: Farm to lvl 6, solo dragon at lvl 3 if safe, then emerge out the jungle as an absolute unit and win the game.
Good times.
I played old warwick in season 5 when jungle item update made him broken. Devourer was my favorite item EVER in league and still is even though it was completely broken.
i liked this character before.
he was one of those simplistic characters you would show to someone learning to play.
man o' man that last clip got me really emotional
one of if not the best rework riot has ever done
loving these new different videos!
Love these! Looking forward to the Valor rework/removal video.
I remember playing the old Ww full ap was so strong, man I miss him but I also love the reworked one
I played old WW from time to time as his fantasy of being a healing werewolf that claws you to death sounded cool to me, but always grew bored quick because it really came down to pressing ult which is funny but not for 10+ games. New Warwick did basically everything I wanted the champ to do, while maintaining the soul of his old abilities, probably the most successful rework along with Panth as these only seemed to add to the original champs, instead of replace.
Didn't play old WarWick but he is one of my favorite Junglers
Love the nod to the lore by having him showcase abilities on Singed
When I started to play League, I started with Warwick and main the shit out of him. I played him top, I played him mid, even supp and even tho I miss his old W to shred towers, I love everything else. This rework was amazing, he looks like he belongs in Zaun, his gameplay is more wild than the old one and the best part was the release date, January 25th, my Birthday. 10/10 rework
Old Warwick was basically just a hybrid mixture between Ursa and Bloodseeker from Dota.
doggy go brrrrrr - in all honesty it's probably one of the best reworks we've seen yet imo
I don’t know if anyone feels the same but I really miss Poppy’s old kit. Her new visuals are superior in every aspect but the kit not so much. Yeah you technically could build her as a tank and terrorize one person in particular because the enemy Janna couldn’t damage you but if you built her with damage either Ad for stat checking auto attacker or a burst ap assassin she felt so satisfying.
I remember a time when me as Warwick and a Ramus stood and punched eachother for like 2 min straight until someone came and interupted us. I got down to like half health and ramus down to a third.
Imo Warwick's rework is one of the most healthy and thematically fitting additions in modern League of Legends. His W is perfect for a champion that's supposed to be a hunter.
Besides of Warwick, some of the only "recent" champions I can think of that are designed that well are Kled and Jhin. Kled in lore is all about fighting and "taking property" no matter what the odds are, so his whole kit encourages him to fight whenever possible and take on risky fights. Jhin in lore is based on the number 4 and assassinating enemies with his rifle and his kit reflects that perfectly. These 3 champs are basically never hated, because there's no forced bullshit in their kit like stealth or true damage. Also they've got clear weaknesses and counterplay. I hope riot will make more reworks/champion releases like these, a lot of recent ones were rather disappointing.
I loved the old Warwick since I got my first Penta as him and would challenge enemies to 1v1s in drag pit trying to out sustain them with on hit builds. I do enjoy the rework tho, just got good memories with the old one.
First time here. Underrated channel, super good history lesson I suppose
I hate that wws W is global, i rly dislike when i m playing top for example and I m beeing punished cuz anyone on the map has low hp ad that makes ww able to run away in any direcion with lightspeed. Its especially annoying when casting spells like Aatrox Qs, W or shit like this
I played old warwick once when i was new and tried jungle out. I did horribly and team flamed me so hard for it, i didnt pick up warwick again till his rework. And while i dont play any more hes def one ofnmy favorite tankd to play as.
Pre-Rework Warwick jungle with Murumana was what got me to Gold the first season I tried ranked, good times
Modre (with dragon), Galio and Warwick are the only reworks who were actually good and maintained their previous playstyles.
Talk about Sion. He was my favorite champion with some well deceiving abilities like his stun, base AD and lifesteal with crits.
warwick was the first champ that I bought along with pantheon (who also had an amazing rework). If I remember correctly, he was 3,300 IP back then. Gahd! I miss marauder's gauntlet as much as I miss adaptive helm. I always built marauder's gauntlet on warwick, panth, and j4. Good times.
I loved old Warwick, the rework he received just made him better.
For those who never got to see the old warwick, I figured I’d give some context on how insane he was when red smite was introduced. Warwick could just farm to level 6 without getting a single kill and then oneshot almost any adc in the game with smite+Ult and whatever items he got from just farming. Lvl 6 was a guaranteed kill as long as you didn’t get cc’ed out of Ult.
good ol' 4.20 weedwick
The only really vivid memory I have of old Warwick was stuffing his ults with Thresh flays lol. If I ever needed to jungle in the 4.20 weedwick era I usually played onhit Shyvana instead. New Warwick is super fun though, even if his ult skillshot is really thin. I know why they don't want it to scale with his size but I kinda wish it did, I've threaded the needle way too many times with it.
Old WW was the first ever champ I played along with old Dr. Mundo and Pantheon... and I definitely love their reworks. But old Aatrrox? Man I miss that champ and old Akali
If you rework a champion and you didn't have to touch a single thing about their kit for months and months on end, like Warwick, you can declare it a perfect rework.
ol ww was soo good we don't played with him too much for fear of rito nerfing it instead...
I really miss the old maps, the old art style and the old champs :( league in 2011... miss it dearly
The biggest problem in the current game is how favored champions are, if they are bruisers with lifesteal. Warwick is a good example on that
I really hate that ww can be removed when he already hit the enemy with his R, I mean thats a supression, they can even remove the cc from the ultimate
I love the new WW, because he actually has a lot depth and isn't just auto attack and Ult the adc. He just feels really good. You actually feel like a terror running around the rift. When you are chasing a champ low on health and his movement speed kicks in and you see the range on your Ult go through the roof as you're hunting them down you just feel like a savage wolf about to catch some prey. He is an absolute terror in low elo and is banned frequently. He kinda falls off around Gold 1/Plat. There's just better Champs, but low elo people have a hard time dealing with him.
I remember when I played that warwick was pretty fun to play. I didn't know he was reworked until a week after first timing him. I just thought he was fun. Nothing more and nothing less
As a person who played both versions of Warwick quite a bit let me tell You. There were good parts of both. Simplicity is good. Point and click suppress is fun. You were an absolute nightmare for back liners. However, unlike many of Ritos reworks, Warwick's was good. For all the reasons listed above and more. I do miss the old Warwick. But I am not angry at the changes they made.
Have been looking forward to this ever since you mentioned it on my comment on the Poppy video, and from all the champs that have been reworked since I started playing Warwick is by far the one I love the most since he can be played in so many ways, some obviously more serious than other...and full movement speed is one of the funniest things to do in ARAM since you can almost clear half the lane with a full build at the speed of light.
Also a moment of silence for old Aatrox, the only champion that has actually been removed from League entirely...why couldnt it have been Fizz Riot?...Why couldnt it have been Fizz?
before the rework ulti is impossible to miss
bro used to look like he ate flintstone gummies on an hourly basis
Low skill floor, high skill ceiling. Love it
can't wait for: "Pain, the Episode"
He is better in every way, but I like the old WW more since that was my intro to the jungle back in season 2.
I think Kayle would be interesting next - from being a lane bully pre-rework to being bullied post-rework.
And being the bully late game