Drug Testing MattDoesFitness - Thoroughly Dissecting The Results
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The UA-cam anti doping agency finally comes to fruition
YADA for life!
Haha
kinobody natty verified movement may actually come true
Great comment man
Matts body language and breathing give off such a guilty vibe of taking PEDs in the first 3 minutes of the video lol
This is truly the culmination of vintage MPMD haha. YADA on point. Still need the sleeveless lab coat for Deltrick
We need a separate YADA channel now.
Deltrick has me dead
Kent Washington
Come on guys, these tests still don’t give you the full picture, we need raw footage and the measurements of Matt’s balls over a long time period to show if his endogenous production of test has ever shut down, get the pictures of your balls Matt
Hahaha got us there with Deltrick
I appreciate that MattDoesDrugtests and I really love that he is indirectly putting pressure on these fake natty morons. It´s really nothing about if someone takes something, they don´t even have to say it, but pretending to be natural when you are enhanced is like suckerpunching a girl and being proud that you made her cry. Now Mike O´Hearn can proof his natural status next if he wants to
You mean Mike O’Tren right?
In all honesty if I was making millions off my enhanced physique and sponsors were forcing me to claim natty, I’m not losing millions in favor of honesty. I like money lol
@@modernbassheads5051 most people would. People just like to sit from their armchairs and criticize because it’s the easy thing to do.
But he IS a fake natty...
@@modernbassheads5051 Yeah, thats true. But if you're found out, you can kiss your money good bye.
It is exciting to see people being more skeptical of their favorite fitness influencers. Whether or not you agree that this testing proves he is natty or not, the work that Derek is doing is definitely helping to restore some honesty and transparency to the fitness industry.
true, espc. since he stopped making those dumbass natty or not videos, where he was wrongly assuming many on drugs when clearly they were and are not.Its a bit like Putin if he wanna do better, then he should just do not.
Totally agree
Yeah it’s great that guys who are actually natty can get the credit. I was pretty sure Matt was a fake natty but fair play to him looks like he’s natural
100%
@@con999t I still don't believe he's a lifetime natural, but if he can manage to hit some prs or maintain his strength and physique while keeping his blood work clean then fair play to him tbh, he would have proved everyone wrong.
I love how this guy went through with multiple tests that everyone wanted to see and 80% of the comments is people making up reasons on why hes still a fake natty. This just proves that getting tests done doesnt do anything, people will believe whatever they want to feel better about themselves
Well said.
I mean, you can say whatever you want but it's awfully convenient that after he said he wanted to enter a natty bodybuilding show and was offered by Derek to do testing it took a full year for him to get tested. And it only came about 5 weeks after he snapped his achilles which is a perfect built in excuse to lose size.
I don't even think his strength or size is unachievable natty. He's only got 10lbs on me at the same height, and same age. Our lifts are all pretty similar, and he's only a tiny bit leaner than me. I just get suspicious of any influencer who so frequently talks about their natty status.
This also doesn't disprove past use. 374 is pretty low test for a 34 year old. I get regular full blood panels due to congenital cholesterol issues which also happens to be associated with unusually high test, so I know I am an outlier, but my test is usually in the high 600's to mid 700's.
@@liamengram6326 get a life
Derek is bringing back honesty and transparency into fitness, legend 👏
How can someone stronger than me NOT be on steroids??? I'm shook.
Nice try...
How most people who have trained for 1-3 years think.
@@killjoy3373 after 3 years you can have pretty good results. 315 bench for reps etc.
@@LordDark102315 for reps is REALLY generous, most people take a year or two to really dial in diet and training so they haven’t even completely consumed newbie gains.
Well done to Matt for being willing to go so in depth in the testing. Hopefully it'll make others come clean and be honest to their followers.
@@seif9923 haters are going to keep hating. Probably just jealous trolls.
This proves he isn’t enhanced atm, only time will tell if he is roided or not
There are many forms of PEDs. Each has its own set of effects and side effects. If someone properly goes through a cycle and then undergoes post cycle therapy (PCT), their body will return to normal levels quickly , if it even deviated while ON cycle. There are SARMS that aren’t suppressive, and if they are, you can counter with some form of test base. The blood work doesn’t prove much if he knew what he was doing and if he’s cycled before. Just remember that steroids are not the only form of PEDs for muscle growth.
@@atomvamp9978 37 years old, lower than optimal test levels for muscle building, yet walks around jacked all year round at 12% body fat. There is no way he is natural.
@@atomvamp9978 and you bum boys will stil keep bumming matt and believing every thing he says..
damn I like to see more tren bedtime stories I miss them bigtime can't sleep no more!
greets from Netherlands
Euwa tijger
It's been a minute, bro! Good to see you back!
Not sure I understand? He's been uploading for awhile?
You should hand out certifications of analysis so people can put them in their IG bios
Moreplatesmoredates certified supraphysiologically natural checkmark
This should actually be a thing. Like the Michelin Star.
It should be a dinner plate that looks like a 45 pound plate.
"Proven to not have been taking steroids over a 6 month period but not at any other time in which I was blasting my lips off because these tests are not proof of lifetime natty or even super long term natty. 🙃 "
I work in a clinical lab and just wanted to add that the five bottom things in the full blood count are different types of immune cells. Lymphocytes are mature cells in the lymphoid lineage of WBCs and are usually elevated in response to viral infection or also might be decreased as they essentially all become activated and die during infection. I wouldn't even make a blood film to look at if someone's lymphocytes are only slightly low especially after surgery - could literally be that he had the flu or a cold or something.
@@nickfalzone7955 I thought I only was thinking this, everyone seems to be like everything he says is right And is that simple,I hope people don't do something to themselves with his videos, it's not his prob though cause he always says to talk with your doctors and puts the disclaimer
@@vanajaajith6222 wtf are you talking about "do something to themselves" lmao. If anything he's STOPPING people from doing something to themselves that they really don't need or shouldn't do. By way of explaining this stuff and also exposing and proving how much progress you can expect to make safely. How is he causing harm here and what are people "going to do to themselves" exactly in your mind?
I like your analysis Derek. I feel like I learn something new about health metrics each day. But seriously, I am an electrical engineer and want to learn about stuff like this on a side as a hobby. How did you get started on learning on this? Your knowledge is impressive
he początkowo uczył się na własnym przykładzie :) Sam był na bombie w młodym wieku, zjebał cykl, zepsuł sobie zdrowie i próbował 'sam się' ogarnąć. A gdzie zdobywał wiedzę ? Praktyczna Po forach (angielskich/hamerykanskich) - ichniejsze kfd/sfd itp.
Teoretyczną - przegląda badania (naukowe) w masowych ilościach. A teraz to już prowadzi swoją klinikę od spraw hormonalnych więc... next level. Pomaga (ew. Eksperymentuje ;) pacjentom.
Tak czy siak chłop prze as jest. Rooobi wrażenie. Jedna z niewielu osób na jutubach której twórczość autentycznie szanuje i docieniam
Pzdr z PWr ;)
Wasn’t expecting this Derek, thank you bro and great to have you back!
He clearly cloned himself, didn't let the clone take gear, and used the clone to take the tests. It's the obvious answer! 🤣
I'm surprised, so good on him. Let's see if he maintains/improves over the next 6 months...
He apparently is hurt now so he won't be able to train as hard lol
@@Obi_01 not apparently he literally blew out his Achilles like a month ago had surgery and everything
@@MrOasis316 my theory is that he got injured and so stopped taking peds and started pcts and now this .
@@akashsingh4005 I love flagrant 2 lol
The test that he ended up taking would still show trace amounts of any peds used. It takes a while anyway to gain hpta connection to 100%. It took me about 2 years to recover naturally from a sarm/oral stack I did. Numerous labs done showing my total being in the 300s-400s. Got blood work a couple months ago and my labs finally showed a total of 611 and free of 91. Trace amounts of any metabolite is enough to cause suppression. Pct doesn’t really work since it’s just a bridge for you to actually recover fully and null the side effects. I think he’s natural. Some of us at least know one guy who had a crazy physique in school. He just happens to be that freak
I love how both your and his videos popped up in my notifications simultaneously.
Been waiting for something to watch while eating bro
More Sarms More Arms
brooooo I already missed Derek the last 3 weeks, never felt that lonely.
How awkward would it be if Derek goes thru the bloodwork and sees some fuckery? lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Tom I’d mention it live on the call. The beauty of this. I don’t care if the results come back clean or not I’m just here to interpret the results and make videos about it.
No fake natty isn’t gonna sunlit their bloodwork if they cant bullet proof it , its 2022, Derek had over a mil subs cmon guys
@@MorePlatesMoreDates very refreshing to see this🙏 sometimes it feels like you dont pushback enough during interviews and have a habit of taking their word for it. Other than that I would love to see breakdowns of those interviews going into depth on the terminology you guys use and what it means.
@@MorePlatesMoreDates Please test me
im happy he did it, hes earned a follower in me
I kind of want to see him get on TRT now. I was in the same range and felt like crap. I didnt truly know until TRT, how bad i felt.
@@stevend481 you need to be under 300 for insurance to cover it but your doctor can prescribe it at an out of pocket cost if you have an actual need for it and show symptoms. I'm at 424 after my recent test but I have some symptoms and I'm going in for a consultation next month.
@@stevend481 Depends on the doc. Some will prescribe for this especially if you are young. 374 for his age is pretty low
I got prescribed TRT at 20. Worst thing I've ever done. No going back now 8 years in
He's already on TRT lol. He just came off a bit which is why his test came back low. It's easy as fuck to pass a drug test.
@@redpillthinking6043 Nah, his test and FSH and LH would be much lower. You would also see it in some of the other bio markers.
Huge respect to Matt for doing this
For using someone else's urine to fake his status? Yeah huge respect 👍
@@sid6554 there's always that one guy
@@sid6554 you clearly didn't watch his video 🙄 the dude literally went into the cubicle with Matt while he went - you are a lunatic if you still believe he isn't natty at this point
@@Cenacles where was that said
@@sid6554 Don't be jealous little man
Respect for this even happening. Will be very interesting to see subsequent bloodwork, but more importantly, what happens to his lifts!! That's what I'll be looking at.
I think there's a lot of call out on these UA-cam's natty status and I've definitely been one of them but you have to give credit too matt for even going through this, he really didn't have to
I wonder if, hypothetically, one could leverage myonuclei "farming" with a load of weights and compounds early on in adulthood and end up more reactive to growth stimuli from lifting on the approach to your 40s.
Hard to test, I suppose.
I think so
Imagine someone cycling steroids for 1 week with sr9009 or cardarine for months to boost myonuclei and atp production for years, still lookint mostly natty and being highly enhanced
As I've said before - if you have a genetic mutation that inhibits myonuclei formation, you're not going to get very far, even with high test levels
@@Cin9999 I was postulating that if you used gear to reap a huge myonuclei harvest early in adulthood if you could then have an "unnatural" level of mass having been clean for 15+ years. Thereby go through this kind of testing, perhaps show moderately low test, come out as full blown natty, but actually benefitting from years of gear.
The answer is essentially yes. We know it's a thing. How much could you benefit from it, and would your body be too messed up from doing it so early on in life if you did it enough to see a sizeable difference, these are the real questions.
@@Cin9999 The video's about PEDs, so I was using a less obvious term. My mistake.
I'm not saying anything about reaching natural potential, but long term increases in unnatural potential as a result of historic use. I'm not saying 14/15 but 20-25 yrs of age, when Matt was an athlete if I understand his history correctly. And I'm not saying he'd potentially be healthy as a result, but just that he'd potentially pass stringent doping tests now despite it.
I was posing this as a question so as to avoid any accusatory tone. I'm not suggesting he DID do this, just that it's a possible avenue of flaw in the assertion he and similar social media sensations are lifelong natty.
I can tell you with reasonable confidence, as an ex medical science student specialising in this kind of thing, IF you stretch the facts, it's feasible. If it's possible without taking a few leaps of judgement and making a few assumptions, I'm not sure of.
After all, he's not Mr Olympia level of muscular. He's just accused of being somewhat enhanced. Maybe he did one cycle at 23 during his athletics career and will forever be ever so slightly bigger than he would otherwise be... he wouldn't have to be a tren fiend for a decade or anything to be technically speaking not a lifelong natty.
Always good to hear from you like getting updated on everything what's good and worth b******* Trying to make a comeback never bought so much junk in my life
Ah crap. Well that's my excuse for why I'm not as strong as Matt gone. Suppose I better just lift more and heavier 💪
Time,genetics,food,life circunstances. There is a lot of factores
@@supt4305 time genetics and money are the big ones
@@V8Fuzion Money is only a factor if youre a gear user. Am i wrong?
@@randomspace6491 It helps to have a lot of money for higher quality foods too.
@@V8Fuzion yeahi agree, but i wasnt saying them in order
Man you really get your money's worth when you sponsor Derek's videos.
Not this dude again
Fr 💀
Hahah
My initial reaction bruh… 💀lmaoo
Lmao
Love how you guys hate to guy for trying to prove that he is natural y’all probably small
I was just thinking about this the other day, can't wait to watch
What's more likely?
A) Mike O'Hearn is actually natty.
B) Matt does fitness did an actual fitness video.
C) Earth is flat which means Santa does not live on the North Pole.
C is absolutely the most likely without fail lmao
C brah
Earth is flat though. At what mile does the ocean start to curve? Do pilots tip their plane nose down to accommodate the earth curve? No
@@ashleytaylor994 correct 8 inches per mile squared does not work on the globe model
@@ashleytaylor994 do you follow dirth? Or crrow777? Eric Dubay or rob skiba ? Flat earth Dave is the best though he has so many hours of content
Anyone who's ever been on knows the look you get when you're coming off cycle or stop taking gear suddenly after a few weeks. The dude still looks "good" don't get me wrong, but he's lost a ton of fullness and volume in his muscles. That "3D" look just doesn't happen naturally - funnily enough this guy looks absolutely natty here, if we compare his photos/videos from before all this drug testing fiasco, he's lost a ton of muscle fullness, volume, vascularity and he absolutely doesn't have that 3D look here.
My two cents - he's tapered off completely for the last 3 months or so. Look at this shoulders, they've lost that "pop"
(compensating by leaning forward and wearing a smaller size t-shirt lol) Looks like his triceps have lost a lot of size too. Also My arms look the exact same off cycle, albeit not as big. That "look" is identical. Test E brahs comment below if you agree. The vascularity and fullness diminish very quickly.
I think that what you are saying is more a placebo effect...
Sounds about right
Ur comparing his peak physique to a video of him in a t-shirt slouching. Atleast try to have some level of an unbiased opinion
This comment is mostly false. He looks different here cause he doesn't have a pump and isn't in perfect lighting. This is how he's always looked in similar situations. I also feel like a lot of people being skeptical didn't actually watch the video, because as Derek says, the testing he passed already is "bulletproof" and if he continues to test natural over the next 6 months while achieving his peak physique and setting PR's, that's bulletproof evidence that he is in fact natural. Derek himself says that.
People still making noises about how it's all some big scam are out of their minds and are just completely, utterly biased because they don't believe some people have such good genetics (when it's obvious they do; some guys are 7'7" tall and others are 5'3" tall - this is just an extension of that. Yes, there are guys who are 7'7" in terms of genetics for muscle building and aesthetics, and others who couldn't build a good physique if their lives depended on it. Matt just has good genetics. Guys like Mike O Hearn are obviously not natural, but nothing about Matt's physique is unattainable naturally for someone with great genetics. It's likely he's natural).
Based on this comment section I see there’s absolutely no value in doing anything to prove you’re natty. People will just believe whatever they want to even if you give them exactly what they ask for. Sheesh.
You are on point. If you have sick genetics and decided to make a UA-cam channel, you are doomed.
It proves nothing and is pointless I agree. But not for the reason you state. More because these tests prove only that he was natty for the period in which he was tested. Lifetime natty is never going to be covered, it's impossible. And anybody that thinks matt has NEVER touched roids, is tapped in the head.
Good to see you back, Derek!
Have you seen the pyrilutamide leak?. A bit off topic, but Id love to see a video on your thoughts. Also in comparison to breezula which dropped off a cliff in efficacy at the 12 month mark. Also thanks for everything you do, this is one of the best most life changing channels ever.
Wow... I'm actually amazed that Matt is natty, considering how fantastic is his physique. Genetic specimen and a half for sure. This may be an ultimate eye opener as for what is possible naturally... Huge respect to Matt for doing that.
He would be natty now but at some point in his career he’s done shit bro. Tests don’t prove your natty
@@Langwene69 if he sets pbs while passing these tests....
People are genetic freaks man go and look and Lee Priest as a teenager it's definitely possible.
Tbf, he was a top athlete before he entered the yt fitness scene. He only properly got into fitness after a career ending injury in athletics. I'm not particularly surprised he's natty based on how good I'd assume his genetics to be (his brothers pretty nuts looking too, for someone who isn't working out properly)
MattUsedToDoTrenButDoesn'tAnymore
It is so sick how Derek has started doing these. It really motivates me to push myself further after seeing what other people can achieve natty.
Even if he's natural, his genetics are elite only 0.01% can achieve his results naturally
@@seif9923 is he not? we don't know where the results came from lmfao
besides, using roids once means he PERMANENTLY has an advantage over others
@@seif9923 - This is either Matt on an another account or if not, you're absolutely obsessed with Matt in a wierd, strange way.
Obviously not lifetime natty lmao
@@Damian-ew1vl
You don’t know where the results came from? You know the org giving the test has someone go in the bathroom with you and literally watches you piss right?
I don't know about anyone else but this is quite motivating. I can't use the "I'm never going to look like that unless I'm on the juice" excuse anymore. We need my boy Mike Thurstan doing it now 🤣
Matt's Genetics are elite. You are unlikely to end up looking like him. His brother is the same.
What we need is for Marek Health to partner with the IFBB. People are talking about mandatory health screenings for competing bodybuilders, why not Marek?
Funny how he went down in size "by a lot" and has passed the test 😂 Lets see how big he gets later down the line
Nah, bro. It's cuz he hasn't been training for 100 days on doctor's orders. Totally just circumstances and he's 100% lifetime natty. 😉
Emphasize on: 😉😉😉
some of you are so salty what else do you want him to do to prove himself
@@LazyToWorkout lol so salty
He ruptured his Achilles.
The test results we've all been waiting for 😂😂😂
@@seif9923 people give matt a hard time because of the countless fast food episodes.
I already forgot about it
@@seif9923 you're kidding...right? He does calorie challenges.
Bro if you’ve been waiting for these test results maybe you need to take up better hobbies lol
@@seif9923 calories are calories hey?, damn it’s like I’ve never heard that cliche before lol, go and eat 5000 calories of shit dude and see how your body feels the morning after
Nice one Matt! Nice one Derek! What a turn up for the books. Like tobsee what Matt's grnotype for putting muscle on is! I am actually excited to see the full results now!
Small question on the bloodwork...
Isnt 01:30pm a little late for a blood test? Is it possible that test levels were much higher in the morning?
They would likely be higher first thing in the morning. I don’t know about much higher. I mean it’s not like they would go from 1000 to 375. Possible could have been 500
Now it's Mr. Thurston's turn 😂😂😂
Derek’s is the gold standard and better then WADA
Hey Derek. I was watching the video you made on DHT and it made me wonder that if a young man has low testosterone, wouldn’t that mean his body would uptake DHT more, like an old man, thus causing baldness?
matt says, "i have low T? Wait till you see this bench" great matt, we all look forward to it. show us all genetics matter lol. kinda had me rolling
I can sense the coach Greg response coming…
As much as I don't like Greg, he will cut the bullshit and ask if this is really Matt's samples and not using a 3rd party to pass these tests.
@@DDB-91 I swear none of you watched the fucking video. He filmed himself getting tested and had 3rd parties verify it was his samples. The obsession with everyone being on drugs is weird.
Props to Matt, however, good luck on getting his boy Thurston to do this. Not a chance.
Great content as always Derek! Are we back to daily uploads? :D
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
That beard is looking supraphysiological
Matt is a monster. If he comes through clean, I recognise I would have called this completely wrong. I trust Derek. At some level the weight of evidence forces you to change your views. Best of luck Matt and big ups.
Respect to both these guys
34:01 if I eat a high carb breakfast I’m falling asleep in class. If I’m fasting I’m very energetic. Is there a video of Derek’s to listen to about this?
But he looked natty now... Looks like he wasn't taking anything for some time.
He should test at he's prime.
dude watch the vid! he says he's going to get back to his best strength levels whilst testing
Been watching Matt for years, glad to see him come out on top. Never doubted it for a second. Equally brilliant to see MPMD content continue to mature. Big fan of both channels.
Far from over lmao. Also this is not proof that he hasn't blasted in the past just that he isn't now.
I'm just going through a crazy natural transformation myself and the disbelieve of people becomes pretty damn annoying. When I look at Matt's face I see a Chad with good white Chad genetics.
I stay in Scotland and can get my Oestrodial checked literally as soon as Monday through the health service
Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I've seen from all of Derek's "test breakdown videos" Derek would categorically know if Matt has in fact jumped off the gear a few months ago to "prepare for this test" - in other words, there would be at least some indicators in the tests that would show some fuckery that Derek would catch right? So unless Matt has paid off the labs and used someone else's urine, these tests actually show that he is natty? So is he just the most insane natty alive or....? Feels unsettling but I guess it's the truth
you are correct. Further back than just a few months ago too
@@Logan-ni6qn yeah, didn't they initially have a massive live call about all of this like 6 months ago? Everyone in the comments, including myself was noting the fact that it seemed as if Matt was almost vetting Derek for answers to his perfectly curated questions surrounding gear and how long it would "hypothetically" take to jump off for an individual but not show anything suspicious in tests etc etc. But again, it would have had to be literally PERFECT with no signs of trickery because he knows Derek would have caught him. I dunno, he says it took all that time for the testing but it really has been like 6 months, that could be normal as I don't actually know
@@hugh6948 yes they did and in the video you could tell Derek was very doubtful that his blood work would come back clean, which was an a lot different reaction than he had in this video. Especially with COVID and how it impacted healthcare times and the UK being a pain in the ass in terms of blood work I really am not surprised it took that long. I mean in the US I get my blood work results in 24 hours but I am also not getting tested for things that have to have my blood be shipped across the border and we have a different healthcare system. If there was any doubt Derek would have pointed it out and he did not in the video. Tbh I have always thought he was natural. His pictures are heavily edited (not saying he does not look like a 98 percentile bodybuilder) and I know people at my university who are younger, weigh less, and are leaps stronger
I love this collab. I don’t believe him over a longer period, but I love the content
Same. Look at how nervous he is at the beginning of the video, he looks like he’s gonna be sick and his body language is that of someone who’s very uncomfortable and lying lol
Good on him for actually doing the testing though and passing.
So how can he prove himself. Y’all provide a problem with no solution
@@rampageGentil
Because proving life-time natty status literally is a problem with no solution, my guy.
I think he is natty. His brother Ben is also jacked. So I will give him the benefit of doubt.
@@rampageGentil Well the reality is because hes European. And other Europeans are the harshest when it comes to telling people they are on gear. Because they think all other Euros cant have muscle building genetics because they themselves dont. Thats why you still have some psychos who believe Simeon Panda is natty, but no one believes Matt. So whats the obvious difference between the two?
FINALLY HES ALIVE
The king arises lol glad to see you back Derek👏
Would Matt's hypothetical hyper-efficient use of his low natural test mean that he might be a potential hyper-responder to exogenous steroids, if he ever decided to hop on it? 🤔
Yes. Indicative of higher androgen receptor density.
@@yewtewb3628 or high free test to test ratio. Receptor density won't matter much if you don't have sufficient free test.
Wouldn’t it be funny if at the end of this six month test window Mat smashes his prs and then he admits he’s on Turkesterone.
Lmfao
Saw this cereal before but felt it was a bit expensive, now that I can use your code to get it cheaper, AND support the deltstar king? Bought it.
Derek idk if you’d wanna do it but I hope you get some kind of work in the UFC or something to help clean it up in the future.
Some of the blatant juicing going on needs to stop.
I worked out for 2 years with the same friend. we were equal size and stregnth. he took drugs for 2.5 months and put on 20-22lbs. As far as i know he never took them again. That was 20 years ago. He is still bigger than me now by almost the same amount. So I don't know what's being proven here. Is this vid to try to fool his wife?
Amen
Tests don't mean that someone didn't take sh** in the past. It's not like it stays in your system forever, lol. That being said it can show they are currently natural.
Yeah, there's no way to prove you're natty.
Little do you know, he's being doing them the entire time, has a huge addiction, spends way too much money on it and still only slightly bigger than you. It's about genetics not drugs
This. I think Matt did something on the more moderate side of gear, reached a maintainable size and has probably been natty ish for awhile. His size isn't unnatural but just the way he handles the question makes me suspect him
Definitely funny how he’s done this not in peak condition. You only have to look at previous videos and pictures to see how jacked he was during peak condition compared to now. He’s definitely lost A LOT of mass!!!!!
You are right.Jesus I just looked him up.He was huuge before.Now he looks like a shadow.
@@adamnaperty He ruptured his achilles. Bound to lose some gains
You ever taken two months off? Hugely impactful and you'd have to be completely psychotic to actually rupture your Achilles and be in that kind of pain. Also, pump, lighting, loads of things make people look a lot bigger than just sitting at a webcam in a tshirt
@@Sabin41 Sorry.I didnt know guys.I just didnt realize how big he was before, unitl I looked at his pics .Also true about looking best in certain scenarios.Under proper lighting I feel like I look like a bodybuilder just to be dissapointed next day in normal light😄
Agreed!!
Great video Derek always sharing your vast knowledge of hormones! I was curious about LH, particularly something that you said about injecting it. If you were to use LH to stimulate the testes to produce more testosterone, would this yield similar side-effects as injectable testosterone? Ie: impaired natural testes function/gyno etc…
Good question, so first off you wouldn’t take straight LH you wound take HCG as it’s mimics LH and and it’s effects, in terms of testicular and overall testosterone suppression from using a LH minicar, the suppression is almost on par with the suppression you would get with using real anabolic androgens, anytime you replace one of your body’s hormones from some external source your body will down regulate that hormones production including LH which is a hormone itself, in terms of muscle gaining Potental from taking a higher dose of some LH minicar it benefits only go so far as compared to just taking a steroid or some testosterone like androgen as with LH you are still dependent on your testicals to produce your testosterone and that is a limiting factor as your testicals can only pump out so much testosterone, while with roids you can just straight up take testosterone at 10 times the amounts your body would normally produce, that’s why for performance enhancement people opt for roids over a LH minicar, in terms of side effects of taking LH, the side effects are just going to be that of having higher levels of testosterone due to the LH so the side effects are basically the same, just keep in mind the side effects of testosterone are directly correlated with the levels of testosterone you have, hope that helped
@@captain-willpower okay got it thank you! Do you know if someone is AR insensitive (moderately common genetic mutation) that their ability to respond to exogenous androgens would be inhibited? Sorry this is my last question, my university failed to clarify when school was still going.
For algorithm - great stuff as always derek
I found myself with low test you can still be big and lift heavy. I was only just over 9 nmol (matt was 14 and low) and I still at that time looked big, and my strength and numbers were still the same. I just felt more tired after workouts/ aching and in general low sex drive etc. In terms of how i looked you wouldn't really tell
Same here. Low T at 20 years old. Never had any symptoms. One of the biggest dudes in my gym. Despite being below the normal reference range for total, free and bioavailable testosterone, my doctor still refused to prescribe me any sort of hormonal assistance because of my muscle mass & lack of symptoms.
@@repliesoffcuzimright1679 I had the same problem (here in UK) as soon as I asked for the blood test as suspected my T levels were low just as felt really run down and tired too often the dr took one look at me and said word for word whilst smirking "Everyone thinks they have low testosterone, you don't I can tell for a fact based on the size of your arms you don't have low Testosterone" which just went to show how little some GP's know about such things. I was still refused treatment as I was 9.14 or something but apparently needed to be 9 or below.
Thankfully I made changes in training and sleep to get tesotrone levels naturally higher and tested again via blood test a couple of months later and they were up to 14 (still low but i had no symptoms and feeling fine)
@@Cin9999 Yeah I got 4 blood tests and all of them came back around 200 ng/dL. The normal reference range was 250-1100.
Would you have any explanation as to why I feel and function normal (honestly above normal!) with low T?
@@Cin9999 My SHBG was normal. Total, free and bioavailable low. But yeah I think you could be right. A combination of higher androgen receptors & getting used to functioning with low T. As far as I know my T was always low. I may have simply never experienced high T in my life so I have nothing to compare to.
Look at his previous physique and arm size then vs now. Not in prep and recovering from an injury. Came off the gear waited so long after accusations to get this type of test. Idk seems skeptical to me.
True, but he says he’ll be up to close to be pb standards in his main lifts in a few months and do another test then.
If he doesn’t perform terribly and appears natty again on the test, that would definitely be pretty convincing.
Let's get Thurston on the YADA programme next!
Do these tests tell only if he has juice in his system at the moment, or whether he has EVER had juice in his system?
This guy is a fake natty
We are kinda gonna see hopefully
Nice. Happy to see this first part of testing results, just wishing I had elite level genetics like this!
This is the mesage that should be loudest on the Internet. That not using is much healthier and you can still get in great shape!
Sacraficing training and injury recovery just to stay natty when everyone else is using peptides and hgh makes no sense, I wouldnt give a crap about being natty if I couldnt train.
Matt got my respect. He also got a subscriber out of me. I was definitely one of the guys that thought he was a fake natty.
Matt honestly suffers from the David laid problem. He edits his stuff to look absolutely amazing. But if you see average pictures or videos that aren’t edited and cherry picked for the best moments he looks a lot smaller. Just like the video of laid that was released. They look almost normal in the right situation.
Also Matt to me just seems extremely shady and weird about the natty thing
David Laid is definitely not natty anymore lol go check out Philion’s video of him and all those around him. They’re all on roids.
bruh david laid has just an insane physique. but hes only 190 lbs (as per most recent physique update), so him looking smaller against some big guys might not seem crazy. idk tbh i think hes natty. or like on trt after doing sarm cycles in highschool given hoe strong he was then
@@JamesBond-wv9xz David Laid was definitely enhanced before, he kinda admitted to it indirectly. However, I don't think he takes anything nowadays (last time I watched him was in Larry Wheel's video).
@@MRmOnThER322 Yeah maybe not anymore cuz he got injured a bunch but once you lose the natty card, you don’t gain it back
@@JamesBond-wv9xz Yeah remember "road to 400lbs bench" they where all on the Pro Hormones + god knows what lol.
Ive been bord asf Bout time u upload
I am 21 year old I got my testosterone tested at afternoon I got 284 ng/dl, that's too low considering my age.
I am working as freelancer so my sleep routine is messed up but still I managed to get 7-8hrs of sleep (2-9:00am) and in gym I am strong enough. Morning I feel lazy and mood swing , by evening I start to feel more active and energetic. Not sure why my test is such low.. is it because of my sleep routine?
You can be negative in this test and have done steroids a couple years ago !!! This means absolutely nothing to all the people in the comment section
He keeps getting hammered on his sub-optimal testosterone levels, but he also keeps taking his blood tests in the afternoon. (In this case, 1:30pm.) I thought testosterone followed a diurnal cycle? Isn't 375 ng/dl normal for 1:30pm? This could easily be 6+ hours after his peak.
Best is when there is morning wood. Thats the T level peak. Then slowly declines during the day can go from highest reference range at that moment to borderline low in the evening.
Exactly my thoughts..Seems like everyone forgot.
Why the fck he's doing it in the afternoon lol..
Back with a bang
I love seeing someone so willing to prove himself, it's good! 👍
I don't think Matt is a lifetime natty just based on how he handles the question. I think he dabbled, reached a maintainable peak and has been natty ish for awhile now. PS he definitely got a pump for this interview to make him look as big as possible (his face is red and he's got a bit of brow sweat)
Yeah I can see Matt doing a quick 45 min upper body session before a 35 min test overview just for us to see his biceps veins pop a bit more. It makes total sense.
Yeah exactly. How he says about his Achilles and says if he was on he would recover heaps quicker he stated it as if he has experienced it before.
@@leonardpersin4255 no, it’s just literally common knowledge that PED’s speed up recovery. Based on literature, studies and experience drawn from other people, MPMD included. Not from personal experience from Matt!
@@YTgymshortss I know it speeds up recovery you banana. Thanks for that dr.
I was saying the way it rolled off his tongue it came across as if he knew from personal experience
@@leonardpersin4255 strange thing to extrapolate from the way he said it.
Why doesn’t Derek give him his own lie detector test and see what happens? That would be very interesting.
Lie Detectors often has nothing to do with lying.
He did a polygraph in round 1 and passed. Didn’t think it was worth mentioning in the video tbh, but yes he passed it.
@@MorePlatesMoreDates you need to pin this guy Mike Adam's comment. This in addition to these results point to him being natty
@@MorePlatesMoreDates deffo mention this. It adds another layer of scrutiny and provides additional evidence in favour of being natty (although we know the efficacy of polygraph tests is dubious)
Why are grown ass adults STILL not aware that "lie detector(lmao)" are absolute GARBAGE. If they meant anything at all don't you think they'd be admissible in court? Don't you think we'd never have an issue knowing who truly committed the crime ever again? Jesus christ do some research lmao. 🙄 fully grown adults that still believe a machine can accurately read somebody's honesty. 😂😂
Welcome back
Bro I grew up in the deep south and we had absolutes units of physical strength and size at the high school level who were so poor they only ate dry ramen and hotdogs yet they were so strong and muscular most of the internet geniuses would accuse them of steroid abuse yet I know for a fact they didn't so its always been bizarre for me to get online and see these guys swear peds are being used by everyone it just isn't true. It's a self defeating prophecy.
@FR everyone's definition is going to be different so I'm not sure what your point is. People smaller then Ray Lewis get accused of steroids all the time including mattdoesfitness but the point stands that many people who get accused of steroids I've seen people with more impressive physiques and strength accomplishments who I knew didn't.
It seems to me, that the “willingness” for these influencers to be tested and analysed by Derek, is because the respect is autodidact knowledge and recognise Derek is truly looking out for them because he IS them, but who was able to save himself from going down a path that leads to death through the wisdom he has gathered from his research and taking a good hard look in the mirror…
This would probably be the 0.1% where Coach Greg was wrong 😔
Isn't it mad that I knew that matt was from England before he spoke.
Literally we do have a "look" over here don't we haha
He looks smaller. Fake natty test possitive 👍👍😂😂
Right? Besides the cephalic vein going on, he looks like an average curl bro.
This is definitely a step in the right direction. I've been saying for years the only way I would believe any of these so-called fitness influencers is if they actually did all kind of tests like at least once every two weeks. Because theres still the possibility of somebody taking something for 6 months to a year and then just taking one test when they get it out of their system and then go right back on it. I look at this guy's thumbnail picture on his UA-cam channel and then the way he looks right now and that's a totally different body composition. You're not going to change that drastically for a natural if you're working out all year round. You might get more fat by going off your diet but he looks natural in this video and doesn't look natural at all in the picture on his UA-cam channel
That cereal is like $10 a box and the box is like 2 bowls… I looked it up after Buff Dudes advertised it. It’s affordable for anyone who already does all their shopping at Whole Foods. 😂
Anyone else Googling a bunch if not all of the names/definitions of the various proteins/hormones measured (albumin, fsh for example) in order to educate themselves for fun? I can’t be the only one pausing mid-video to do this haha
Usually I just keep them in the back of my mind and the more I watch Derek's videos and the more I hear these words I learn what they mean from the context used or sometimes he himself explains them. As for FSH and LH I once had to write about the menstrual cycle in a biology exam so I was already aware of them, though not in this bodybuilding context
people, u can't know if someone has used roids in the past once it's recovered, Matt could've perfectly blasted the shit and even more and then go natty with pct and once recovered get all the tests done, athletes do it all the time to compete, some bbders cheat on natty federations doing that
Bullshit. He's on roids currently and posted someone else's urine.
He could have. But his physique would change over time if he blasted enough to make a difference and then just stop. You don’t keep the same amount of muscle.
even if your cruise small dose of testosterone how the fuck would tye test know?
@@ash_classicphysique because when you cruise your LH and FSH are still grounded, u are still supressed while on trt and that shows on a test
@@dontreadmyname4396 ah that’s interesting didn’t know that thanks