This is actually a really old design. Have one from the 30's. German made, with a cast iron base/pot stand and spherical brass fueltank. Still works fine, bought it for 10 euro's at a flea market.
One thing to note is to make sure that there is no under burn on the burner after a good prime. I have a vintage German Turm alcohol stove and it is prone to do this after I prime it. There is no safer fuel source out there to use, that's why the marine industry uses alcohol stoves.
That is a pretty fast boil. I've been watching stove reviews this last week and most are in,the 3 min and up range even,the real expensive ones. Pretty cool.
I've always seen this on Amazon, but wondered how big and bulky it would be. Your making of this video has removed all doubts. Thanks for the time, money and efforts you put in to make these videos. Always appreciate it. Atb, The Solo Hiker....
I like it. I love the fact that you can just refill the tank with alcohol, and with a homemade pot stand, you actually could heat some of the older ovens! really cool, thanks for the video, and stay safe out there!
The reason they call it an oven is you can put a foldable oven on the burner and bake things like bread and cakes inside of it. I like it because it doesn't need a battery in order for it to work. I'm going to try using isopropyl alcohol 90% and see how well mine works. Like you, I too was worried about the fuel tank being so close to the flames. The first time I used mine, I did it outside on the concrete driveway. Better safe than sorry huh?😂Have a nice day everyone!
I do believe that little knob on the back is to provide fuel air mix so you can get a little more Oxygen into the burner mix and the yellow flame will die down. Don't quote me but may want to try it out.
that is a cool stove. I usually have a few gallons of methanol kicking around for all kinds of whatevers.... and cheap as dirt..... thanks for showing.
It's just a picnic stove. Try denatured alcohol to see if the flame color changes. How well does it do in the wind? Most alcohol stoves use about 1 ounce of fuel every 30-50 minutes depending on the stove. 10 ounces is plenty of time to cook 3 nice meals. I don't see how you can bake with that. I guess it is possible. Trangia and similar were meant for backpacking but can be used almost anywhere. I have one. It works very well, especially if you put it inside a Firebox Nano. RedCamp stoves are almost the same as a Trangia.
I was leery of the lixada fuel storage concept too. Then again, I thought, eagerly accept the idea of alcohol storage *in* the burner for camp stoves and immediately *under* the burner for alcohol heaters.
I saw a video on kerosene powered lamps by a UA-camr called Technology Connections. The stove operates the same way as the kerosene lantern did in his video. You have to basically let almost all of the alcohol burn before you turn the burner on. Otherwise you’re just gonna be wasting fuel and it’s not gonna be very effective or it could possibly just spit a lot of fuel out and you might have a bigger problem. So don’t turn on the burner. Just wait until the alcohol is almost out the ignite the burner. Yes, it will take a lot of time and it will not work in the wind. You need to be somewhere calm. Super awesome stove by the way. I think I’m going to buy it just because I find the “involved-ness” a slight romantic feature about the stove. It’s unique and takes a skilled hand. Sounds like a special tool.
I've been looking at this stove for quite a while but here in Canada they're really expensive. $80 plus tax comes to almost $100. I see another video coming up with somebody restoring an antique one of these so I guess this design has been around for a long time. I just got three little Lixada stoves in the last two weeks. Price of everything is going up quite a bit so I'm stocking up.
You mentioned having to prime it like with the Coleman white gas stove.To me it's more like one of the MSR Wisperlight white gas stoves. Something else , folks always puts white gas in the MSR Wisperlight priming pan , using denatured alcohol makes more sense to me , no soot that way. My stove of choice is alcohol or wood ( twigs ) when camping. By the way the saying that he who has the most camping gear is the winner , a lot of us are in that race. lol.
Very informative video, thanks for posting The longer the carbon molecule in the fuel, the yellower the flame. Methanol has a blue flame, but the vapour is toxic (although the fumes are no more so than ethanol)
Interesting set up. Not sure it is actually faster than a regular trangia. A good test would be to time both styles from the moment you take them out of their containers to actual boil. Useful for home though or car camping etc.
The difference is that you can regulate the flame for simmering etc much easier and precise than a Trangia. This reminds me of the white gas Coleman stoves but without the pumping and obviously lighter weight, although the Coleman is built like a tank for long lasting and taking a beating. Guess is just a matter of preference.
I got a ld Turm 144 stove, thats pretty the same out f the 50th.. if cut a small ring out of can to optimize the oxygen that flows near the flame, the flame will be blue and some hotter.
I received this today, and had to disassemble it in order to get it flowing; I was able to get it to flow, but I had to tighten up the brass fitting near the valve... be careful when you remove the fuel tank, for there's still alcohol in the fuel line. Just open the valve, and the fuel line will drain. If you have a funnel, have the alcohol flow back into your storage bottle... Oh, if you don't want to carry a funnel, get a Trangia fuel bottle; they come in 3 sizes (350ml, 500ml, 1L), and they're easy to fill that tank using that bottle!
Ethanol and petrol are the same safety wise, both vaporise at normal temperatures and both are as flammable as each other. Pure ethanol can run a petrol engine if the carb is set up for it.
@@Bucky1836 on my channel, this coming monday will be posting a video on a simple alchohol stove of my design. May want to come by tommarow and check it out.
Nice video. I have a Barthel Norma E21 which I run on meths and it burns with a hard blue flame and a comforting hiss although I'm not sure it would be as fast as yours. I'll have to do a speed test.
Thanks for another good vid. Do you have the jet number by chance"? im looking to buy some dets to modify the hole size on my BRS 12A to run alcohol. Thanks
A cool little stove. Not practical for me personally due to size and cost, but the concept based on the Coleman gas generator stoves is one that I like. Where is it made? Or did I miss that part in the presentation. Keep the videos coming Buddy.
Nice! Came here to see how they work. Though of buying one myself. With all the things going on in Ukraine and energy krisis and the threat that they'll not promise there'll not be episodes of black outs. One of these and you can always make yourself some pasta bolognese, a bacon cheese burger and so on. I'm not a fan of propane so much stuff and only one use. I could use a kerosene stove too but I've not seem any new wick types and most vintage requires a lot of work. I'm not a fan of the Primus type either. Too tedious to start and again mostly vintage stuff that requires a lot of efford to get running - if I only had a proper work shop. So I might just order myself an alcohol one in the near future. Always have alcohol as it's used for many things, degreasing and so on.
Brilliant! You could run it on the cheapest, shittiest moonshine you could find. I guess you could make your own alcohol but that seems kinda pointless if you have the means to run a still already. All in all I think it's really very cool. Thanx for sharing.😊
I see there's a different model coming out of China that has a wind shield. But, it costs 3x the price. Does anyone have any ideas on how to make one? I am looking forward to any mods that come in the future.
You might/could repurpose a large juice, soup, or coffee can but then you would, of course, have to use tin-snips to cut a virticle slit into the can and knock down the sharp edges with some sand paper. If that wont work, I'm thinking the stove/chimney pipe section of a home-center store should have something that would also do the job.
Oh no not another one it was your video that convinced me to go and buy the camp chef ms200 that I absolutely enjoy gonna have to save more pennies it looks like I'm going to buy another stove lol really enjoy your videos thanks for sharing keep em coming
Have you tried it with different types of alcohol to see how works could you make a video that please Keep on making interesting videos like this thank you very much
I'd be curious to see how long it will run on a single tank. That's the main problem (besides wind) with Trangia-type stoves is that they burn up a lot of alcohol for the amount of time they burn. Hopefully, with the valve, this thing will be more fuel efficient.
Yeah I plan on doing a test to see how long it runs, I was thinking of cooking an entire meal on it and seeing if it can last long enough for a whole meal. It seems to not burn a ton, in this video alone, it hardly used any when I drained the tank and put it back in the bottle but it was just from eyeballing it, I didn't measure it out
Another continuous fed alcohol stove that might be interesting for you is the HPV Salsa burner from Germany. thailand-travelbase.com/2020/07/23/hpv-salsa-regulating-alcohol-stove/ The orange flames is something most people complain about with this Lixada stove. Apparently there is something wrong with the design. Maybe the air inlet is too small ?
I have been buying the denatured alcohol at Home Depot, for some reason people have not grabbed it all up. Its in the paint section, in one gallon cans. Think it was around 12 or 15 bucks a can
I just bought one. Couldn't resist. I had trouble getting Alcohol to drip down into the pan. I had to unloosen the valve near the tank and tilt the stove in order to get it to drip. Do you know if this Is this normal? Also, is it normal for the copper fitting connected to the tank to get hot? Do you know if you can you use 99% alcohol in the stove? I purchased some off of amazon (link below) and wasn't sure if it was safe. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08C11SCNN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is actually a really old design. Have one from the 30's. German made, with a cast iron base/pot stand and spherical brass fueltank. Still works fine, bought it for 10 euro's at a flea market.
One thing to note is to make sure that there is no under burn on the burner after a good prime. I have a vintage German Turm alcohol stove and it is prone to do this after I prime it. There is no safer fuel source out there to use, that's why the marine industry uses alcohol stoves.
That is a pretty fast boil. I've been watching stove reviews this last week and most are in,the 3 min and up range even,the real expensive ones. Pretty cool.
I've always seen this on Amazon, but wondered how big and bulky it would be. Your making of this video has removed all doubts.
Thanks for the time, money and efforts you put in to make these videos. Always appreciate it.
Atb,
The Solo Hiker....
Did you end up getting one? How did it work put for you?
@@daddyosink4413 It's not listed there now. Waiting for it. Will update you when it arrives.
Im sold. Enjoyed your presentation 👍. Price isn't the problem its the #Quality for my bang. Thanks Again
I like it. I love the fact that you can just refill the tank with alcohol, and with a homemade pot stand, you actually could heat some of the older ovens! really cool, thanks for the video, and stay safe out there!
Really nice! I think I'll monitor Amzn. a while to see i the price comes down.
Thank you for the presentation!
The reason they call it an oven is you can put a foldable oven on the burner and bake things like bread and cakes inside of it. I like it because it doesn't need a battery in order for it to work. I'm going to try using isopropyl alcohol 90% and see how well mine works. Like you, I too was worried about the fuel tank being so close to the flames. The first time I used mine, I did it outside on the concrete driveway. Better safe than sorry huh?😂Have a nice day everyone!
What type of foldable oven would you recommend to use on this
I do believe that little knob on the back is to provide fuel air mix so you can get a little more Oxygen into the burner mix and the yellow flame will die down.
Don't quote me but may want to try it out.
Thanks for reviewing! I think I will to buy one.
that is a cool stove. I usually have a few gallons of methanol kicking around for all kinds of whatevers.... and cheap as dirt..... thanks for showing.
That is a really clever design!
It's just a picnic stove.
Try denatured alcohol to see if the flame color changes.
How well does it do in the wind?
Most alcohol stoves use about 1 ounce of fuel every 30-50 minutes depending on the stove.
10 ounces is plenty of time to cook 3 nice meals.
I don't see how you can bake with that. I guess it is possible.
Trangia and similar were meant for backpacking but can be used almost anywhere.
I have one. It works very well, especially if you put it inside a Firebox Nano.
RedCamp stoves are almost the same as a Trangia.
I was leery of the lixada fuel storage concept too. Then again, I thought, eagerly accept the idea of alcohol storage *in* the burner for camp stoves and immediately *under* the burner for alcohol heaters.
Cool stove and yeah I'll be anxious to see it some more.
This is the first time I have seen this product and thank you for sharing this information with us! 😀 Nicely done ✔
Actually a pretty cool stove,never saw this before
If it is not 100% alcohol, whatever is it may be making the orange flame. Nice stove. Thank you for the review. George. Stay safe
Boiling water in less then three minutes makes this like a regular home stove. Great item
I saw a video on kerosene powered lamps by a UA-camr called Technology Connections.
The stove operates the same way as the kerosene lantern did in his video. You have to basically let almost all of the alcohol burn before you turn the burner on. Otherwise you’re just gonna be wasting fuel and it’s not gonna be very effective or it could possibly just spit a lot of fuel out and you might have a bigger problem.
So don’t turn on the burner. Just wait until the alcohol is almost out the ignite the burner. Yes, it will take a lot of time and it will not work in the wind. You need to be somewhere calm.
Super awesome stove by the way. I think I’m going to buy it just because I find the “involved-ness” a slight romantic feature about the stove. It’s unique and takes a skilled hand. Sounds like a special tool.
I picked one up a couple years ago and think its great. The only downside I have found is the adjustment handle gets very hot.
Great review,
I think I'm going to buy one of those.
This is unusual stove!!🌞🌎👍
I think this would be great for back packing and better then propane
I've been looking at this stove for quite a while but here in Canada they're really expensive. $80 plus tax comes to almost $100. I see another video coming up with somebody restoring an antique one of these so I guess this design has been around for a long time. I just got three little Lixada stoves in the last two weeks. Price of everything is going up quite a bit so I'm stocking up.
Liked for having an old Swedish army "Sprit 35" (Alcohol 35) bottle as your fuel container.
Thanks, it came with a Swedish cook kit I reviewed ages ago but it really comes in handy and never leaks
Ótimo vídeo Parabéns muito bom isso 👍
You mentioned having to prime it like with the Coleman white gas stove.To me it's more like one of the MSR Wisperlight white gas stoves. Something else , folks always puts white gas in the MSR Wisperlight priming pan , using denatured alcohol makes more sense to me , no soot that way. My stove of choice is alcohol or wood ( twigs ) when camping. By the way the saying that he who has the most camping gear is the winner , a lot of us are in that race. lol.
Very informative video, thanks for posting
The longer the carbon molecule in the fuel, the yellower the flame. Methanol has a blue flame, but the vapour is toxic (although the fumes are no more so than ethanol)
Interesting set up. Not sure it is actually faster than a regular trangia. A good test would be to time both styles from the moment you take them out of their containers to actual boil. Useful for home though or car camping etc.
The difference is that you can regulate the flame for simmering etc much easier and precise than a Trangia. This reminds me of the white gas Coleman stoves but without the pumping and obviously lighter weight, although the Coleman is built like a tank for long lasting and taking a beating. Guess is just a matter of preference.
I got a ld Turm 144 stove, thats pretty the same out f the 50th.. if cut a small ring out of can to optimize the oxygen that flows near the flame, the flame will be blue and some hotter.
Thanks for the video on the stove.
got me hands on a old colman oven, it fits nicely on top of this stove, got a use for it now, does bread, cakes, and other things :)
Interesting... do you by chance recall the model of the vntage coleman oven(?)
@@__WJK__ get it soon, in me camper van,
It's like a fancier penny stove..Pretty good buy!
I've used German alcohol stoves, and this isn't as heavily built like those are... and, it isn't as heavy as my Turm Sport... nice thing to have!
I received this today, and had to disassemble it in order to get it flowing; I was able to get it to flow, but I had to tighten up the brass fitting near the valve... be careful when you remove the fuel tank, for there's still alcohol in the fuel line. Just open the valve, and the fuel line will drain. If you have a funnel, have the alcohol flow back into your storage bottle... Oh, if you don't want to carry a funnel, get a Trangia fuel bottle; they come in 3 sizes (350ml, 500ml, 1L), and they're easy to fill that tank using that bottle!
Ethanol and petrol are the same safety wise, both vaporise at normal temperatures and both are as flammable as each other. Pure ethanol can run a petrol engine if the carb is set up for it.
big difference is you can put out an ethanol fire with water. don't put water on a petrol fire!
I have a manning bowman alcohol stove. There’s no videos of one on UA-cam they must be pretty rare.
That is a pretty slick and different stove. I just did a video on a trangia type alcohol stove. Love different options.
Nice, exactly like an old Punker or Turm stove. I think Primus made them also.
It's very interesting, but I don't think it will be replacing my old coleman 425 liquid fuel stove. It's 50 years old and still very dependable.
Ive gotboth restoring a 425 b but i got this stove for car
I see you have the sickness. Your addicted to camping gear! Lol. Its ok I have the same sickness. Cool stove.
Yall got any more them portable stoves 🥴🥴🥴🥴
@@Bucky1836 on my channel, this coming monday will be posting a video on a simple alchohol stove of my design. May want to come by tommarow and check it out.
@@charlesartificer2158 im really eyeing it my self 🥴
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@@Bucky1836 ya I have to resist myself I own way to many stoves lol. Thanks for the sub!
Nice video. I have a Barthel Norma E21 which I run on meths and it burns with a hard blue flame and a comforting hiss although I'm not sure it would be as fast as yours. I'll have to do a speed test.
"Clone" of Spirituskocher Turm 144
My guess is that it's intended as a base camp stove or wilderness cabin stove
Thanks for another good vid. Do you have the jet number by chance"? im looking to buy some dets to modify the hole size on my BRS 12A to run alcohol. Thanks
I like it
No need to cart around a funnel, just keep the metho in an old sauce bottle and then you can just squeeze it in 💁🏼♀️
Cool stove.
A cool little stove. Not practical for me personally due to size and cost, but the concept based on the Coleman gas generator stoves is one that I like. Where is it made? Or did I miss that part in the presentation. Keep the videos coming Buddy.
Nice! Came here to see how they work. Though of buying one myself. With all the things going on in Ukraine and energy krisis and the threat that they'll not promise there'll not be episodes of black outs. One of these and you can always make yourself some pasta bolognese, a bacon cheese burger and so on. I'm not a fan of propane so much stuff and only one use. I could use a kerosene stove too but I've not seem any new wick types and most vintage requires a lot of work. I'm not a fan of the Primus type either. Too tedious to start and again mostly vintage stuff that requires a lot of efford to get running - if I only had a proper work shop. So I might just order myself an alcohol one in the near future. Always have alcohol as it's used for many things, degreasing and so on.
Hey it’s only $36.99 now......yeah I ordered one....
nice small stove
2 minutes?? Dang!! I think that's faster than jetboil!!
Also, you're probably using isopropyl alcohol at 91%. I often find myself that isopropyl alcohol will have a orange color. Is my guess correct?
Brilliant! You could run it on the cheapest, shittiest moonshine you could find. I guess you could make your own alcohol but that seems kinda pointless if you have the means to run a still already. All in all I think it's really very cool. Thanx for sharing.😊
Growing up we used unleaded gas on stoves like that
I see there's a different model coming out of China that has a wind shield. But, it costs 3x the price. Does anyone have any ideas on how to make one? I am looking forward to any mods that come in the future.
You might/could repurpose a large juice, soup, or coffee can but then you would, of course, have to use tin-snips to cut a virticle slit into the can and knock down the sharp edges with some sand paper. If that wont work, I'm thinking the stove/chimney pipe section of a home-center store should have something that would also do the job.
Thank you for your suggestions. I solved it, using a Fray Bentos Steak & Kidney Pie tin (425g) and some tin snips. Greetings from Scotland!
Ya caught me I'm a stove junkie
How much for one of these
How can I get one to buy
Oh no not another one it was your video that convinced me to go and buy the camp chef ms200 that I absolutely enjoy gonna have to save more pennies it looks like I'm going to buy another stove lol really enjoy your videos thanks for sharing keep em coming
Have you tried it with different types of alcohol to see how works could you make a video that please Keep on making interesting videos like this thank you very much
Nope not yet, next time I will try it with some HEET and see how it likes that.
Who sells these
I'd be curious to see how long it will run on a single tank. That's the main problem (besides wind) with Trangia-type stoves is that they burn up a lot of alcohol for the amount of time they burn. Hopefully, with the valve, this thing will be more fuel efficient.
Yeah I plan on doing a test to see how long it runs, I was thinking of cooking an entire meal on it and seeing if it can last long enough for a whole meal. It seems to not burn a ton, in this video alone, it hardly used any when I drained the tank and put it back in the bottle but it was just from eyeballing it, I didn't measure it out
I would love to use an alcohol stove but here in California, denatured alcohol is currently banned... Does anyone know of a substitute fuel?
Heet Gas line AntiFreeze works well clean burning too
@@Iridium242 That is a proper choice, but it's sold in very small bottles. It would not be cost effective... But thanks for your response.
Robert its expensive but any liquior over 190 proof like ever clear runs great or 91 percent alcohol , i run ever clear in mine but idk if its in Cali
Another continuous fed alcohol stove that might be interesting for you is the HPV Salsa burner from Germany.
thailand-travelbase.com/2020/07/23/hpv-salsa-regulating-alcohol-stove/
The orange flames is something most people complain about with this Lixada stove. Apparently there is something wrong with the design. Maybe the air inlet is too small ?
Thanks for the tip. I'll probably order the HPV instead as this one seems to be discontinued.
I have 6 camp stoves! Am I ill???
these are very similar tot the German Turm stoves,
Lol stove junkies your are one to lol thanks for the video
Kinda pricey for an alcohol stove, mite be worth it tho, thx for the vid
Would u test it with coleman fuel?
how long can it run
Ethanol burns blue. Methanol is blue but almost invisible. Isopropyl burns Yellow.
So maybe you're burning Isopropyl there?
Good luck on finding alcohol I paid $60 for a gallon on eBay
I have been buying the denatured alcohol at Home Depot, for some reason people have not grabbed it all up. Its in the paint section, in one gallon cans. Think it was around 12 or 15 bucks a can
Found heet on walmart s website few weeks back on clearance from winter to spring change over as they do every year around 2.50 a four pack
Are you in California?
Yeah that’s a remake of some other stove from days of yore. I don’t remember the name.
Yeah I was never able to find the name of them either. Seen some with green paint on the base and a brass alcohol tank too. They were older units.
Iridium242 look at this Gustav barthel ua-cam.com/video/zL3kk0szf2s/v-deo.html
Iridium242 desca from Germany? classiccampstoves.com/threads/desca-nr-3.38471/
Look up Norma No.51 Spirit stove. It is an old vintage design.
turm sport from germany. they made models like this as well as models that fold up like an optimus or coleman stove.
the thread on mine is poo as well
From a "newbee"; would appreciate other resource for purchase,not a fan of "Big A",I understand your connection to them,it's a free world.😊
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I just bought one. Couldn't resist. I had trouble getting Alcohol to drip down into the pan. I had to unloosen the valve near the tank and tilt the stove in order to get it to drip. Do you know if this Is this normal? Also, is it normal for the copper fitting connected to the tank to get hot? Do you know if you can you use 99% alcohol in the stove? I purchased some off of amazon (link below) and wasn't sure if it was safe. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08C11SCNN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Mine does and the knob gets hot im toying with it to see what i can do
I had to take o ring off the stem of mine to get tank to flow right so far no leaks except by knob but im going to try graphite packing
kinda big
This is a knockoff of a Turm 144 German Alcohol stove...
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