I'd run a fishing line into the copper tube. Tie it to the wick so I could pull it through. Fishing line will quickly go through the tube. I really enjoyed your video. You are an excellent teacher!
A good idea if you wanted the wick to go all the way through the loop, but here there is no wick in the copper tubing loop, only up each copper tubing leg that feeds into the loop. See, you're not actually burning the wick; the two wicks absorb liquid and fill the loop with butane gas, not butane liquid. When he says "prime it" he means just that, filling that loop with gas. Because its an airtight system when the gas ignites it creates a negative pressure which forces more liquid up the wicks where the copper pipe is hot, converting the liquid to gas and into the loop. So, the fishing line idea wouldn't work here.
I love how everything isn't exact. So many people get so caught up in making everything fit perfectly with exact measurements that don't really matter to the end product. This is great!
I saw another video like this but the jar was much larger, wick much longer and was built and used to heat greenhouses. Wondering how warm an area it can heat and how long. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!!
I have a 5ft x 5ft x 6 ft deer stand that is insulated and one of of these made out of a pint jar heats it just fine. On a mid 40s day it easily gets it to mid 70s inside the stand.
Just a suggestion: glue two lids together facing in opposite directions so when you are done cooking you can screw a jar on to cover the copper coil to prevent evaporation. That way you can store it for future use with the Alcohol in the wick jar.
Whisperin Pints he is says attach another lid to the existing one and then you can screw on a second jar to cover the coil assuming the coil is short enough
Henry Avery I think just dumping out any left over alcohol would be just as good. A quart can of denatured alcohol is still fairly cheap at the hardware store and 91% rubbing alcohol is even cheaper at the pharmacy.
Table salt works wonders too.. or any stuff that desolves in water. Not an issue here, but try using sand with a 10-15 wrap coil n getting it out... :D
This is really cool because you can use this as a standard alcohol burner for chemistry type experiments or even micro-biological work. Moreover, if you pre-cut the wick to the length of the copper tubing, and then run it through the tube before making your bends; it will eliminate some of your final steps in the production process. One of the other things that I like about this burner is that not only does it give off a good amount of heat but the flame is not as bright as an ordinary flame from a candle and therefore it gives you a tactical advantage when light discipline is important. Overall, it is a very useful tool. :-)
Filling the evaporation coil with solid fuel gives you a yellow flame because you are burning cotton, with an accelerant. Only worse light discipline than that is acetylene. Just knock it off. If you cosplay as gi joe when shtf all that happens is the real Boogeyman knows which house the guns are in. Lol, light discipline. I can see the end of your cigarette glowing in the woods and illuminating trees for a quarter mile. Longer if the leaves are down.
@@Altrag_ Cool your jets buckaroo. I can spot a cigarette too. Sometimes, my comments aren't only to get the author to think but rather, the directed audience. As for being a soldier, I was probably a soldier long before you were born (before video game armchair warriors). Next time, try to be a little more gracious with the comments and more understanding with whom you are speaking.
@@rogerstillwell7176 Roger your idea is still very bunk ...your not saving steps your ruining the burner and then also burning the snot outta your wick
Thanks for sharing. I’m going to try with a wider jar and three aligned copper coils just enough to carry a pot. I want to use it as a mini stove. Wish you the Best! A lot of Blessings.
You should soak the wicks in alcohol before twisting them up the tube. Seems like that would make it much easier. Also, you could use the end of a toothpick to seal the hole when not in use.
Great design! 👍🏻😄 If you leave the metal pipe in the middle of your copper twist when you pinch it in the vice it'll come out more evenly. Para cord probably wouldn't work very well because it's made out of synthetic materials, you need something cotton, but you can buy round kerosene wicks at different thicknesses, I'm sure one would probably fit in there I have a really small kerosene lantern that has a round wick which looks to be about that exact same size as your copper tubing. The thing you said about the JB Weld being able to take extreme heat is accurate, I'm not sure exactly what the heat rating is but I used one to fix a part in my engine which was cracked and it's never come open.
Oh yeah I forgot to say if you put a piece of hardwood behind the lid when you're drilling it it won't pucker out as much and it will be easier to clean up. Thanks for the video.
JB just on the bottom works just fine. Also, if you don't have sand, sugar works fine. That's 1/4in copper if anyone is curious. ANY jar works fine. Any fuel works fine. Just sealed.
@GF_Burke what about the hole in the copper ?? Should it be a VERY small hole ?? I tried to make one (10mm copper tube) but it won’t work.. It will only burn with a small flame, I wonder what I’m doing wrong 🤔
I employed your idea but instead of using the "Kerr or Ball" tin plate lid, I used a piece of copper sheet and sweat soldered the copper coil burner to the copper plate lid. once cooled down, I made a thin gasket using high temp silicone (2,000 degree rated) used to seal cast iron stoves and BBQ'S. Turned out great. thanks for sharing your project. Kind regards! Eric Dee.
Well, I told people in the comment section here when they talked about soldering the copper to the steel lid, it was impossible. And it is. But replacing the lid with copper sheeting is perfect! Great idea! That’s how I’m making mine. Thanks.
I like to prime mine by flipping over two times real quick. Heat from auto parts store or denatured alcohol works allot better, you don't end up with the 10, 20, 30% water in the bottom. I took a big open channel aluminum computer heat sink and put over one of my smaller ones and it made a great little heater. Of course always do this in a big aluminum turkey pan. You can put a big ceramic pot over the top and it radiates allot of heat.
Aahh ha-haa-haah! Right you are fine sir. Thank you kindly for the advice and for the laughter it produced. I hope you have a good day and may God bless you & your loved ones! PEACE from NC.
This reminds me of a project I did as a kid where I made a similar coil of copper and used a tea candle to power a little boat in water. The coil and candle kept a flow of water that propelled the boat. You mention that the drill bit is acting like a punch and leaving the metal burrs behind. With the issues you had drilling the lid... You actually should use a punch. The jobber will work fine as well but both require a hard enough backing material so that the pressure you apply to the cutting tool does not deform your lid. Also, start with a smaller drill bit.
Take a second lid. Remove the inner seal. Glue/seal it onto the top of the lid of the copper coil. When you're done with your burn, use another mason jar to screw onto the top. You wont burn yourself and you wont waste alcohol through evaporation.
The point is that the flame will go out; it will also prevent the alcohol from evaporating. Instead of escaping trough the little hole, it has nowhere to go.
You might be able to do so, however the added benefit of the second jar is that it protects the coil, and more importantly, the connections with the lid. This would make the thing as sturdy as the glass jars, which would be great for transport. Also, there would be no need to wait for it to cool.
Its a perfect idea for camping purposes for a cup of coffee /tea. Reusable refrigerant copper tubing is also good material. Its only a matter of innovation for people who explore the future.
Nice cool project. What if you put lighter fluid??? Can you do that next? And how about lamp oil, kerosene. ? Let's see that as well. If not, I'll do it any way. But, it is really cool. So have you soldered the tube in yet. Let's see that also. Boy, your going to be a professional when I'm done with you, h a. H a,
Sand tip is great, I would say drill it out while still in the vice it would make it easier, if you use copper fridge pipe you would get a thicker wall and it measures at 3/8 Imperial or 9mm Metric Great video
My first camping stove was a cheap POS based on this principle. It was made of some kind of brass-like metal, had detachable L-shaped pot supports like upside-down legs, and was designed for white gas. Gave it a brief test and it seemed OK. First trip out, it developed a case of thermal runaway, shooting 8-inch green (copper) flames out either side of the coil, right past my little camp pan. I thought it was going to kill us or burn the park down. Scary experience shutting it down too. Never used it again.
Iridium242 yeah it's pretty bad, I saw the sticker on your work bench so I just figured I'd help you out if were still using.. my brother turned me onto weapon shield and I gotta say it's the best shit I've ever used, I even use it on my folding knives
That's from the same guy/company that makes "SteelShield" correct? I believe I had a small sample of that stuff years ago, it came in a little plastic pen-type container with a metal needle-type applicator tip. Great stuff, I should get some more of it when my Hoppes No.9 finally runs out...
When I saw the project you made, I realized that it could be put inside a metal coffee can or a #10 tomato juice can with several holes drilled in the bottom of the larger can, and a piece of metal screening on the top of it, to make it into a stove capable of warming up coffee or a can ofsoup... even cooking breakfast
Yeah a few weeks or days after I did this vid, I did another in my "hobo stove" which is a coffee can, it worked great! ua-cam.com/video/_W3x97M7qSI/v-deo.html
T-lights in a box works good 4 a hand & body warmer......lol I lived in a Tent b4 right up to Dec, 15th in Canada.! Damn B.S Times That waS.., but up to 30 T-Lights in a Roast Pan Under my Log Bed would keep me Warm for 3 1/2 hours at a Time.! haaa Bought lots of 100 packs...........
if you want to make larger ones, take a string tie it to the end of the wick. use a small keyboard vacuum and vacuum out one side. The string will feed through and you can pull the wick to the right position! it would be cool to see a double or triple loop... Great concept!!! thank you plan on making a few myself
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I wonder if there is a way to put a pool of fuel on the lid where, when lit, it would heat the coil and , likely, light the stove, too. I used to have a SVEA 123, which used a cup around the base of the ‘generator’ which was used for this purpose.
THANK YOU SO MUCH for a neat little video!!! It was presented well and made it look easy, especially for beginner DYI enthusiasts. Only basic tools required. Something I've found to help, (I keep on on my hobby-bench), take an old ball-point pen apart and save the bottom section. Straighten out a Large paperclip and, with needle-nose pliers, bend a small loop in one end, tiny enough to easily go down inside the ink-pen barrell, and lightly, flatten the tip, on the other end. Mix up some five minute JB weld and, with a popsicle stick, fill the ink-pen barrell up. Then insert the straightened out. Paper-clip. Use the old ink-pen refill, to push it out the other end till at least 1 1/2" is out there, and clean JB weld off the wire. Put the glue back in the barrell, that got shoved out when the refill came back out and screw the clip end back on with a little JB weld on it too...and forget it over night. (since it's inside, sometimes it takes longer to harden well.) This will be about the right size to do little tight pushing and probing hobby operations. It will also aid in installing your wick. ((A quick version would be to just open a large paperclip, almost up, and use the bent part for a handle, and lightly flatten the tip. Not as comfortable, but will still work). THANKS AGAIN. One quick question...is that RUBBING ALCOHOL you're using or ETHYL ALCOHOL. (You went by the camera too fast with the bottle label, for me to see the type of fuel.) I GOT TO BUILD ME ONE OF THESE.
Neat trick! I have a multi-fuel stove that does a similar thing vaporizing fuel, just with a metered flow instead of a wick. It's cleanest with white gas, but will work with kero/deisel/jet, lamp oil, even most petroleum solvents (stay clear of fumes!), and alcohols. For yours, therefore, I imagine you're not limited to alcohol, and predict kerosene will work very well in there, albeit with a bit of soot. Please do be very careful if you try anything more volatile / lower flash point/ higher vapour pressure than alcohol - and gasoline is _right out!_ Mine is an old old MSR Whisperlight, if you're wondering. Very light, very reliable, fully user serviceable. I also love that the fuel is manually pressurized in its companion bottle at run time, stored unpressurized, and needs no consumable fuel bottles. For some fuels there's a wick needed for the pilot burn (your "prime") and for some emergency fuels like alcohol or some solvents, the fuel pump valve and component would need to be serviced afterwards, but burn it sure will.
This is a very good idea of getting the fuel to the heated coil through a wick rather with the compressed air as we used to do with the old Primus! Rather than drilling the two holes with an exact drill, it would provide more support to the coil if one uses a smaller drill then with a tapered wooden screw, push the taper slowly in the hole till the extra material is burred/ bent over till the diameter is correct. The extra material left bent over in the hole will give better vertical support to the coil. If the coil is soldered or glued in there would be a better joint.
This is amazing! Do you think in hindsight you could make one larger so it could hold more alcohol so it will burn longer ( say a jam jar) wondering if anyone has done a bigger one than this? Regards
Phones are learning your patterns they’re becoming you and reading your mind. I saw this video 6 years ago when it was first posted. I don’t watch this kind of stuff it’s not a typical suggestion for me. Earlier today I thought about the this video and the little copper coil. And just now, after 6 years, the same day It randomly popped into my head, it shows up on UA-cam again. I don’t believe it
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Is there any end to the kinds of stoves out there. I am in the stove DIY mode right now. I have two Silverfire rocket stoves but I can't stop making my own. This is fascinating. Great video. Thank you off to Lowes I go. :)
Similar alcohol burners had been produced commercially in Japan for school laboratory use and for mountaineering. I prefered to use my alcohol burner with three loops for mountaineering over gas/gasoline/paraffin oil burners because of reliability. Later imported Trangia burner expelled them from the market.
It really depends on the size of the container, but I've burned a shot glass of ~45% rum for at least a half hour with a napkin wick. That was years ago so memory may be failing me. Either way, i betcha it'll burn long enough to cook breakfast for several people using this stove.
This has probably been mentioned already, but you can substitute frozen water for the sand. Tightly crimp one end of the copper then fill with water and crimp the remaining end. Freeze it and bend it to whatever shape you need. I have built many radio transmitters over the past 6 decades using this method to make power amplifier tank coils. Nice video! Thanks for sharing. --Mick
the rubber caps are tight enough to hold water to freeze method [this is 1/4 inch ice maker line. rolls come with caps as intended for potable connection]
Thanks for your Video.And just to add when as a young person my friend and I used a similar coil with a small candle under the coil that lade above the small full size candle cut short to fit horizontal ,and two small holes to fit the copper tube out of the transom and seal the water from entering the craft ,,to propel a small (Toy).boat having the heat ring draw water in one side and out the other to move the the boat along in Mums fish pond / Just a point of interest to some ?...(Just for fun ) ..(Project for future Knowledge) ....John B
I live on a ranch with a few hundred fruit trees. We always have a huge amount of fruit loss to birds and insects like wasps, so I have decided to make burning ethanol from the discarded fruit. I could use a burner like this instead of spending money on propane. In fact, I would like to try to use a few to heat a small room with the inverted clay pot heater idea.
I subscribe and upvote you but I don't have the time to do that... I will just DIY collect dried branches/woods in the woods to boil water for my coffee.
Does this type of alcohol stove have any benefits over other homemade designs? I'm not knocking you if you're a stove geek and just want to have fun with other designs, but needed to ask the question for my own curiosity.
oh my god I used to use rubbing alcohol to heat my bedroom when I was super poor. I built all kinds of crazy ways to control and boost the radiant heat. best one i ever made I called the "fire flower," it was basically a perforated flower bulb shape with petals, made entirely from folded aluminum foil. The pedals would help hold and control the flames and the perforations in the bulb allowed the fumes to come out in a measured manner. It was SUPER effective, but of course had to be rebuilt every 2 weeks or so. This is amazing to me
Iridium 242 Dear are many good videos on how to make this stove. What makes your tutorial special is your fine personality, and giving the viewer confidence that he or she can make this stove, and they don"t have to be perfect with the details. If you are not a professional teacher, then i believe you would be an excellent mentor!! Thank you for a job well done. Bruce the swimmer New Rochelle N.Y.
tim taylor ...i was thinking that exact same thing also ..100% cotton would donthe trick something else that is really wierd that might work...tightly wound up tolit paper. ive made small survival candle with old cooking grease ...rolled up a square of Tp Soaked it in the grease and set it down into the grease and lit it and it will burn until the cooking grease has burnt gone...couple of days proo
tim taylor the thing about those stoves is that they are not just burning alcohol, they are heating up the alcohol and burning the vapor and so are more efficient. That is why that type of alcohol stove needs to be primed,
Copper spiderweb 🕸 i found some copper wire in plastic conduits off cuts 3ft 1/8 thick wires inside - also had a few old transformers about 🚶♂️ then my mind clicked 1 week latter then made an aluminium spider and hung it in the toilet My mate said thats different never seen it done b4
Ths is really neat. I have some 1/4" copper tubing and JB Weld in the garage so I am going to put them to good use. Like the comments about improving the design - adding a reverse cap so we can seal the jar when not in use and heating with a bottle cap. To that end, I plan to weld a small container of some sort under the coil so it can be filled with fuel and lit to heat up the coils when starting the unit since I doubt I will be carrying a torch with me. That is how we primed the burners of the old kerosene stoves we had back home.
You do a super job explaining everything. About the wick, one thing that might work is to first measure a piece of thin wire to the same size as the coil. Take the piece that goes to the right coil, connect it to the wire you just measured, connect the other end to the other wick that will go on the other side of the coil, thread it thru the copper tube BEFORE making the coil. Have both wicks out of each end as you described THEN fill the tube with the sand, cap each end over the wick, and make the coil. The wire will stay in the pipe with the wicks attached from each end as you so eloquently described how to do. Might work.
That wouldn't work as well for bending the tubing. A wick compresses a lot more than sand does and would more easily produce kinks during bending. Since the wick is only needed in the legs, insert them after you make the coil. A short length of wire, like from a leftover piece of hose wiring, or a kitchen skewer would easily help shove the wick up the leg, especially if you double the wick over the end.
Iridium242 Good job. 5 x 5 as far as I can tell. Good job on showing the build, on your explanations, and great attitude on the entire thing. You should be proud of your work & self! (Don't get a swelled head, tho. Lol) All the best to you.
Thank you. Cap fuel jar with intact lid to save fuel. Put stove cap on another jar for storage. Soda bottle cap priming tool with cotton ball wick is cleaver suggestion. Burn test results? Boiling time? (2 cups @ 212°F) Burn time? Stove holder? Wind break? Why does burner have the loop??? Brilliant concept with simple design. We really like it. For sale???
Excellent design and 2 which I have made both work great . Added a small amount of fiberglass house insulation inside the jar which helps to keep the fuel from "sloshing" around . Thank you once again Iridium 242 and have an excellent New Year !
Had one of these when I was a boy, (I admit it was shop bought) it was made of brass and ran on ordinary petrol, great little camping stove provided you took some sensible precautions like not using it inside the tent lol. The basic layout was identical to this with the exception that it had a primer dimple underneath the burner coil which you filled with a spot of petrol and lit to preheat and prime the jet. Thanks for the vid.
I use fine grain salt when I bend small thin copper pipes because to be sure that I get everything out I just put it in water and let the salt disolve.
I personally would love to just go into Home Depot or Lowe's and have a copper wire already cut and designed for me. This way if I do not want the extra material, it keeps it quick and simple for several different types of projects. Cool idea.
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A guitar string works great for getting the wick into the copper tube, very flexible and very sturdy.
Leave the metal from the drill hole intact
It gives the JB WELD more surface area to hold onto
JB WELD will cover up the sharp metal
JB might dry up & crack with time
I'd run a fishing line into the copper tube. Tie it to the wick so I could pull it through. Fishing line will quickly go through the tube.
I really enjoyed your video. You are an excellent teacher!
A good idea if you wanted the wick to go all the way through the loop, but here there is no wick in the copper tubing loop, only up each copper tubing leg that feeds into the loop. See, you're not actually burning the wick; the two wicks absorb liquid and fill the loop with butane gas, not butane liquid. When he says "prime it" he means just that, filling that loop with gas. Because its an airtight system when the gas ignites it creates a negative pressure which forces more liquid up the wicks where the copper pipe is hot, converting the liquid to gas and into the loop. So, the fishing line idea wouldn't work here.
I had the same thought, fish tape the wick in, unless that cent of the coil needs to be empty
Mr C it’s an alcohol stove not butane. Butane is pressurized and would need only to open the valve to allow it to flow
@@mr.curviac8277 How does rubbing alcohol convert into butane gas??
@@crazysquirrel9425 Pass. 😆
I love how everything isn't exact. So many people get so caught up in making everything fit perfectly with exact measurements that don't really matter to the end product. This is great!
Thanks, yeah when I did this it was really just a casual thing, was never thinking this many people were going to watch it lol..
Some of us can’t help ourselves. I Don’t look down on those who don’t have the same affliction, though.
I have one question, why not just sweat the pipes into the lid instead of the JBWeld?
I saw another video like this but the jar was much larger, wick much longer and was built and used to heat greenhouses.
Wondering how warm an area it can heat and how long.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge!!
I have a 5ft x 5ft x 6 ft deer stand that is insulated and one of of these made out of a pint jar heats it just fine. On a mid 40s day it easily gets it to mid 70s inside the stand.
@@user-neo71665 Neo, how much fuel does it consume over say, 4 hours. Thank you in advance.
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Just a suggestion: glue two lids together facing in opposite directions so when you are done cooking you can screw a jar on to cover the copper coil to prevent evaporation. That way you can store it for future use with the Alcohol in the wick jar.
What about the tubing that projects out BOTH SIDES of the lid? Don't put away your thinking cap yet, Henry.
Whisperin Pints he is says attach another lid to the existing one and then you can screw on a second jar to cover the coil assuming the coil is short enough
Henry Avery I think just dumping out any left over alcohol would be just as good. A quart can of denatured alcohol is still fairly cheap at the hardware store and 91% rubbing alcohol is even cheaper at the pharmacy.
I think two RINGS glued upside down to each other is what would work best...
I LOVE this idea. I would do that for home emergency use... larger jar on the bottom. same size coil. smaller jar on top. EASY STORAGE. GREAT tip.
The sand tip is worth every minute of this video.
Ya,the sand tip was the hack!!
I've also heard of people putting water in the pipe and then freezing it to accomplish the same.
Yep, that sand tip will come in handy
Table salt works wonders too.. or any stuff that desolves in water. Not an issue here, but try using sand with a 10-15 wrap coil n getting it out... :D
You can also seal one end of tube fill it with water seal the open end and freeze works great also.
That's 1/4" copper refrigeration tubing and the other one is a 1/2" x 3" nipple. Cool project!!
This is really cool because you can use this as a standard alcohol burner for chemistry type experiments or even micro-biological work. Moreover, if you pre-cut the wick to the length of the copper tubing, and then run it through the tube before making your bends; it will eliminate some of your final steps in the production process. One of the other things that I like about this burner is that not only does it give off a good amount of heat but the flame is not as bright as an ordinary flame from a candle and therefore it gives you a tactical advantage when light discipline is important. Overall, it is a very useful tool. :-)
Problem if you put the wick in first, it makes it harder to put the sand in and clear out...
Guy your gonna burn your wick then . That heated area is where the vaporized fuel is pressurized
Filling the evaporation coil with solid fuel gives you a yellow flame because you are burning cotton, with an accelerant. Only worse light discipline than that is acetylene.
Just knock it off. If you cosplay as gi joe when shtf all that happens is the real Boogeyman knows which house the guns are in.
Lol, light discipline. I can see the end of your cigarette glowing in the woods and illuminating trees for a quarter mile. Longer if the leaves are down.
@@Altrag_ Cool your jets buckaroo. I can spot a cigarette too. Sometimes, my comments aren't only to get the author to think but rather, the directed audience. As for being a soldier, I was probably a soldier long before you were born (before video game armchair warriors). Next time, try to be a little more gracious with the comments and more understanding with whom you are speaking.
@@rogerstillwell7176 Roger your idea is still very bunk ...your not saving steps your ruining the burner and then also burning the snot outta your wick
Thanks for sharing. I’m going to try with a wider jar and three aligned copper coils just enough to carry a pot. I want to use it as a mini stove. Wish you the Best! A lot of Blessings.
You should soak the wicks in alcohol before twisting them up the tube. Seems like that would make it much easier. Also, you could use the end of a toothpick to seal the hole when not in use.
Considering your a robot, your probably correct.
@CJ Wilemon What if I do him?
Great design! 👍🏻😄 If you leave the metal pipe in the middle of your copper twist when you pinch it in the vice it'll come out more evenly. Para cord probably wouldn't work very well because it's made out of synthetic materials, you need something cotton, but you can buy round kerosene wicks at different thicknesses, I'm sure one would probably fit in there I have a really small kerosene lantern that has a round wick which looks to be about that exact same size as your copper tubing. The thing you said about the JB Weld being able to take extreme heat is accurate, I'm not sure exactly what the heat rating is but I used one to fix a part in my engine which was cracked and it's never come open.
Oh yeah I forgot to say if you put a piece of hardwood behind the lid when you're drilling it it won't pucker out as much and it will be easier to clean up. Thanks for the video.
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those look like 1/2 pint jars how long will they burn full?
JB just on the bottom works just fine. Also, if you don't have sand, sugar works fine. That's 1/4in copper if anyone is curious. ANY jar works fine. Any fuel works fine. Just sealed.
Thank you for giving out the measurement
@@aazv23 Thinners for paints? Please.
@GF_Burke what about the hole in the copper ?? Should it be a VERY small hole ??
I tried to make one (10mm copper tube) but it won’t work..
It will only burn with a small flame, I wonder what I’m doing wrong 🤔
@@cabomful The small flame is just when it's getting started, keep heating it up. should take off.
One of the best instructional, to the point videos I have seen.
Nice presentation. FYI: I used gauze strips and spun them tightly using my drill then pulled them through with a fine wire...Works great.
I employed your idea but instead of using the "Kerr or Ball" tin plate lid, I used a piece of copper sheet and sweat soldered the copper coil burner to the copper plate lid. once cooled down, I made a thin gasket using high temp silicone (2,000 degree rated) used to seal cast iron stoves and BBQ'S. Turned out great. thanks for sharing your project.
Kind regards!
Eric Dee.
That's Exactly what I was thinking when watching this ! :)
USE copper and solder it.
Post it.
It is the best solution when alcohol is involved, as alcohol attacks epoxy glues and degrades them.
Well, I told people in the comment section here when they talked about soldering the copper to the steel lid, it was impossible. And it is. But replacing the lid with copper sheeting is perfect! Great idea! That’s how I’m making mine. Thanks.
You can also use compression fittings on the copper pipe instead of messing around with JB Weld.
Lol Welp currently Walmart doesnt have mason jars anymore. And that copper tubing is tripled in price
Hi thank you for this video it’s great :) do you happen to have any information on the burn time?
I like to prime mine by flipping over two times real quick. Heat from auto parts store or denatured alcohol works allot better, you don't end up with the 10, 20, 30% water in the bottom. I took a big open channel aluminum computer heat sink and put over one of my smaller ones and it made a great little heater. Of course always do this in a big aluminum turkey pan. You can put a big ceramic pot over the top and it radiates allot of heat.
great idea I have three in a triangle and rest my pan on top! ps I soldered mine.
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bawhahahaha!!! You very funny!!!
Said the walrus to his son.
Also Netflix father's to their sons.
Aahh ha-haa-haah! Right you are fine sir. Thank you kindly for the advice and for the laughter it produced. I hope you have a good day and may God bless you & your loved ones! PEACE from NC.
Great idea..... might have to make one of these on the weekend.
How long does a half bottle, the maison jar, that size burn...?
Thanks
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This reminds me of a project I did as a kid where I made a similar coil of copper and used a tea candle to power a little boat in water. The coil and candle kept a flow of water that propelled the boat. You mention that the drill bit is acting like a punch and leaving the metal burrs behind. With the issues you had drilling the lid... You actually should use a punch. The jobber will work fine as well but both require a hard enough backing material so that the pressure you apply to the cutting tool does not deform your lid. Also, start with a smaller drill bit.
Take a second lid. Remove the inner seal. Glue/seal it onto the top of the lid of the copper coil. When you're done with your burn, use another mason jar to screw onto the top. You wont burn yourself and you wont waste alcohol through evaporation.
would that work? would the flame not go out?
The point is that the flame will go out; it will also prevent the alcohol from evaporating. Instead of escaping trough the little hole, it has nowhere to go.
You might be able to do so, however the added benefit of the second jar is that it protects the coil, and more importantly, the connections with the lid. This would make the thing as sturdy as the glass jars, which would be great for transport. Also, there would be no need to wait for it to cool.
You could also solder a thimble to the extra lid and make a little pre-heater cup.
Well said
You can also use a strand from a cotton mop, they will stand up to the heat. Just don't use a synthetic mop strand as they melt and plug the tube.
Thanks for your great video I will try it I have already a copper tube
Its a perfect idea for camping purposes for a cup of coffee /tea. Reusable refrigerant copper tubing is also good material. Its only a matter of innovation for people who explore the future.
Very clever... good to have in a time of no electricity, or camping or cooking indoors... Thank you for the great insights...
You can also use frozen water in the tube also instead of sand.
Nice cool project. What if you put lighter fluid??? Can you do that next? And how about lamp oil, kerosene. ? Let's see that as well. If not, I'll do it any way. But, it is really cool. So have you soldered the tube in yet. Let's see that also.
Boy, your going to be a professional when I'm done with you, h a. H a,
But..but...where has all the Rum gone?
That's so cool! I'm impressed and I don't mean that sarcastically either.
Isn’t it sad that on UA-cam you have to actually specify that :)
I don't get it. Theres not a single reason this could have been sarcastic.
Sand tip is great, I would say drill it out while still in the vice it would make it easier, if you use copper fridge pipe you would get a thicker wall and it measures at 3/8 Imperial or 9mm Metric
Great video
Try denatured alcohol. I does not leave behind soot. :) Awesome burners btw!
Muy bueno.... me gustaría que lo hagas en español porfavor.... gracias
My first camping stove was a cheap POS based on this principle. It was made of some kind of brass-like metal, had detachable L-shaped pot supports like upside-down legs, and was designed for white gas. Gave it a brief test and it seemed OK. First trip out, it developed a case of thermal runaway, shooting 8-inch green (copper) flames out either side of the coil, right past my little camp pan. I thought it was going to kill us or burn the park down. Scary experience shutting it down too. Never used it again.
If you still use "frog lube" on your guns try "weapon shield" and you will realize that frog lube is trash and how much gunk frog lube leaves behind
Yeah I tossed Frog Lube ages ago.. no longer using it.
Iridium242 yeah it's pretty bad, I saw the sticker on your work bench so I just figured I'd help you out if were still using.. my brother turned me onto weapon shield and I gotta say it's the best shit I've ever used, I even use it on my folding knives
That's from the same guy/company that makes "SteelShield" correct?
I believe I had a small sample of that stuff years ago, it came in a little plastic pen-type container with a metal needle-type applicator tip. Great stuff, I should get some more of it when my Hoppes No.9 finally runs out...
Brent Addie
Avus95 I think so but I'm not entirely sure.. I do know however that weapon shield is hands down the best weapon cleaning and lubricant I've ever used
I prime mine by spilling about half a teaspoon of alcohol on the lid and light it.
does doing that prevent having to light it with a torch? can it be lit then with a match or lighter?
Yes but the bottle cap with dryer lint allows for a hotter temperature and it lights faster
When I saw the project you made, I realized that it could be put inside a metal coffee can or a #10 tomato juice can with several holes drilled in the bottom of the larger can, and a piece of metal screening on the top of it, to make it into a stove capable of warming up coffee or a can ofsoup... even cooking breakfast
Yeah a few weeks or days after I did this vid, I did another in my "hobo stove" which is a coffee can, it worked great!
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T-lights in a box works good 4 a hand & body warmer......lol I lived in a Tent b4 right up to Dec, 15th in Canada.! Damn B.S Times That waS.., but up to 30 T-Lights in a Roast Pan Under my Log Bed would keep me Warm for 3 1/2 hours at a Time.! haaa Bought lots of 100 packs...........
So simple, but it's brilliant. Efficient, small and useful. Great share.!
if you want to make larger ones, take a string tie it to the end of the wick. use a small keyboard vacuum and vacuum out one side. The string will feed through and you can pull the wick to the right position! it would be cool to see a double or triple loop... Great concept!!! thank you plan on making a few myself
Yes, old electrician trick... Use a vacuum.
If you don't have sand you could put water in the tube and freeze it. This is used for bending brass instrument tubing.
WOW thank you for this video, I WILL be making quite a few of these for my family and friends who share prepping ideas with me., again thank you!
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I wonder if there is a way to put a pool of fuel on the lid where, when lit, it would heat the coil and , likely, light the stove, too. I used to have a SVEA 123, which used a cup around the base of the ‘generator’ which was used for this purpose.
I keep meaning to do an update to this vid, I actually used a cut down .45 ACP case that I fill with alcohol and light , it works perfectly.
Svea optimus?, sele burner no pressar ?👍❤️🇸🇪
THANK YOU SO MUCH for a neat little video!!! It was presented well and made it look easy, especially for beginner DYI enthusiasts. Only basic tools required.
Something I've found to help, (I keep on on my hobby-bench), take an old ball-point pen apart and save the bottom section. Straighten out a Large paperclip and, with needle-nose pliers, bend a small loop in one end, tiny enough to easily go down inside the ink-pen barrell, and lightly, flatten the tip, on the other end. Mix up some five minute JB weld and, with a popsicle stick, fill the ink-pen barrell up. Then insert the straightened out. Paper-clip. Use the old ink-pen refill, to push it out the other end till at least
1 1/2" is out there, and clean JB weld off the wire. Put the glue back in the barrell, that got shoved out when the refill came back out and screw the clip end back on with a little JB weld on it too...and forget it over night. (since it's inside, sometimes it takes longer to harden well.) This will be about the right size to do little tight pushing and probing hobby operations. It will also aid in installing your wick. ((A quick version would be to just open a large paperclip, almost up, and use the bent part for a handle, and lightly flatten the tip. Not as comfortable, but will still work). THANKS AGAIN. One quick question...is that RUBBING ALCOHOL you're using or ETHYL ALCOHOL. (You went by the camera too fast with the bottle label, for me to see the type of fuel.) I GOT TO BUILD ME ONE OF THESE.
Neat trick! I have a multi-fuel stove that does a similar thing vaporizing fuel, just with a metered flow instead of a wick. It's cleanest with white gas, but will work with kero/deisel/jet, lamp oil, even most petroleum solvents (stay clear of fumes!), and alcohols.
For yours, therefore, I imagine you're not limited to alcohol, and predict kerosene will work very well in there, albeit with a bit of soot. Please do be very careful if you try anything more volatile / lower flash point/ higher vapour pressure than alcohol - and gasoline is _right out!_
Mine is an old old MSR Whisperlight, if you're wondering. Very light, very reliable, fully user serviceable. I also love that the fuel is manually pressurized in its companion bottle at run time, stored unpressurized, and needs no consumable fuel bottles. For some fuels there's a wick needed for the pilot burn (your "prime") and for some emergency fuels like alcohol or some solvents, the fuel pump valve and component would need to be serviced afterwards, but burn it sure will.
How long does it burn for filled up?
How large of a room can it heat to 70° when it's below 0°!
How many would you need to get to 70°?
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This is a very good idea of getting the fuel to the heated coil through a wick rather with the compressed air as we used to do with the old Primus! Rather than drilling the two holes with an exact drill, it would provide more support to the coil if one uses a smaller drill then with a tapered wooden screw, push the taper slowly in the hole till the extra material is burred/ bent over till the diameter is correct. The extra material left bent over in the hole will give better vertical support to the coil. If the coil is soldered or glued in there would be a better joint.
Jb weld is awesome......we fixed broken drive shaft on m113 personel carrier with vicegrips and jb weld
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That sounds impressive. Good one for mythbusters.? 💡
This is amazing! Do you think in hindsight you could make one larger so it could hold more alcohol so it will burn longer ( say a jam jar) wondering if anyone has done a bigger one than this? Regards
There's other videos to make this burner that use larger jars.
I fill the tubing with water and freeze it then wrap it around something .
Phones are learning your patterns they’re becoming you and reading your mind. I saw this video 6 years ago when it was first posted. I don’t watch this kind of stuff it’s not a typical suggestion for me. Earlier today I thought about the this video and the little copper coil. And just now, after 6 years, the same day It randomly popped into my head, it shows up on UA-cam again. I don’t believe it
I have noticed that happens every so often it is bewildering
yeah they unironically read our minds
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Put a block of wood under the lid while drilling the holes will help the drill bit to drill rather than punch the holes.
Great job on the small portable stove! Will be nice to take along ice fishing during the winter!
for a longer life wick try Kevlar I use Kevlar wicks for fire spinning they hold the fuel better
In the case of these stoves, it doesn’t matter, because since the wicks are never exposed to the flame, they’ll last forever...
I've found that mixing jb Weld on plastic works better than on cardboard. As the resins in the mix doesn't soak in to the absorbent cardboard
Is there any end to the kinds of stoves out there. I am in the stove DIY mode right now. I have two Silverfire rocket stoves but I can't stop making my own. This is fascinating. Great video. Thank you off to Lowes I go. :)
Similar alcohol burners had been produced commercially in Japan for school laboratory use and for mountaineering. I prefered to use my alcohol burner with three loops for mountaineering over gas/gasoline/paraffin oil burners because of reliability. Later imported Trangia burner expelled them from the market.
love the project, one question how long does it burn for?
That’s what I’m wondering
It really depends on the size of the container, but I've burned a shot glass of ~45% rum for at least a half hour with a napkin wick. That was years ago so memory may be failing me. Either way, i betcha it'll burn long enough to cook breakfast for several people using this stove.
This has probably been mentioned already, but you can substitute frozen water for the sand. Tightly crimp one end of the copper then fill with water and crimp the remaining end. Freeze it and bend it to whatever shape you need.
I have built many radio transmitters over the past 6 decades using this method to make power amplifier tank coils.
Nice video! Thanks for sharing.
--Mick
That doesn't cause problems from the water expanding when it freezes? Do you need to cut your tube longer to account for that or anything?
Table salt works too Mick.
the rubber caps are tight enough to hold water to freeze method [this is 1/4 inch ice maker line. rolls come with caps as intended for potable connection]
Thanks for your Video.And just to add when as a young person my friend and I used a similar coil with a small candle under the coil that lade above the small full size candle cut short to fit horizontal ,and two small holes to fit the copper tube out of the transom and seal the water from entering the craft ,,to propel a small (Toy).boat having the heat ring draw water in one side and out the other to move the the boat along in Mums fish pond / Just a point of interest to some ?...(Just for fun ) ..(Project for future Knowledge) ....John B
Do the wicks need to be tight in the tube?
jb weld a metal bottle cap under the coil so you can burn some alcohol in it to warm up the coil.
Someone also suggested this so another jar can be screwed on top and stop evaporation when not in use.
Neat stove bud but the tip about the sand AWSOMELY GENIUS!! Rock on! 👍👍👊
I live on a ranch with a few hundred fruit trees. We always have a huge amount of fruit loss to birds and insects like wasps, so I have decided to make burning ethanol from the discarded fruit. I could use a burner like this instead of spending money on propane. In fact, I would like to try to use a few to heat a small room with the inverted clay pot heater idea.
I subscribe and upvote you but I don't have the time to do that... I will just DIY collect dried branches/woods in the woods to boil water for my coffee.
Does this type of alcohol stove have any benefits over other homemade designs? I'm not knocking you if you're a stove geek and just want to have fun with other designs, but needed to ask the question for my own curiosity.
oh my god I used to use rubbing alcohol to heat my bedroom when I was super poor. I built all kinds of crazy ways to control and boost the radiant heat. best one i ever made I called the "fire flower," it was basically a perforated flower bulb shape with petals, made entirely from folded aluminum foil. The pedals would help hold and control the flames and the perforations in the bulb allowed the fumes to come out in a measured manner. It was SUPER effective, but of course had to be rebuilt every 2 weeks or so.
This is amazing to me
Iridium 242
Dear are many good videos on how to make this stove. What makes your tutorial special is your fine personality, and giving the viewer confidence that he or she can make this stove, and they don"t have to be perfect with the details. If you are not a professional teacher, then i believe you would be an excellent mentor!! Thank you for a job well done.
Bruce the swimmer New Rochelle N.Y.
Thanks, no I have never been a teacher, but I do enjoy teaching things! Thanks for watching
I bet cheap shoelaces would be great wicks
That's what I was thinking.
tim taylor ...i was thinking that exact same thing also ..100% cotton would donthe trick
something else that is really wierd that might work...tightly wound up tolit paper. ive made small survival candle with old cooking grease ...rolled up a square of Tp Soaked it in the grease and set it down into the grease and lit it and it will burn until the cooking grease has burnt gone...couple of days
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tim taylor the thing about those stoves is that they are not just burning alcohol, they are heating up the alcohol and burning the vapor and so are more efficient. That is why that type of alcohol stove needs to be primed,
Jav Nok maybe even charcoal ligher fluid would be great to use because it last a long time when not in use.
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Copper spiderweb 🕸 i found some copper wire in plastic conduits off cuts 3ft 1/8 thick wires inside - also had a few old transformers about 🚶♂️
then my mind clicked 1 week latter then made an aluminium spider and hung it in the toilet My mate said thats different never seen it done b4
I like this, I'm going to have to build myself one
I think I'll build few and pass them around during Christmas...
Just learned something new today. Thanks for sharing.
Ths is really neat. I have some 1/4" copper tubing and JB Weld in the garage so I am going to put them to good use. Like the comments about improving the design - adding a reverse cap so we can seal the jar when not in use and heating with a bottle cap. To that end, I plan to weld a small container of some sort under the coil so it can be filled with fuel and lit to heat up the coils when starting the unit since I doubt I will be carrying a torch with me. That is how we primed the burners of the old kerosene stoves we had back home.
I am wondering how this would work with some alternative fuels of course alcohol is very clean burning
Is it safe to use glass jars? I thought the glass would break if it met heat, I was afraid it would explode
You do a super job explaining everything. About the wick, one thing that might work is to first measure a piece of thin wire to the same size as the coil. Take the piece that goes to the right coil, connect it to the wire you just measured, connect the other end to the other wick that will go on the other side of the coil, thread it thru the copper tube BEFORE making the coil. Have both wicks out of each end as you described THEN fill the tube with the sand, cap each end over the wick, and make the coil. The wire will stay in the pipe with the wicks attached from each end as you so eloquently described how to do. Might work.
so how to get sand off wick?
That wouldn't work as well for bending the tubing. A wick compresses a lot more than sand does and would more easily produce kinks during bending. Since the wick is only needed in the legs, insert them after you make the coil. A short length of wire, like from a leftover piece of hose wiring, or a kitchen skewer would easily help shove the wick up the leg, especially if you double the wick over the end.
That is a cool little stove, I haven't seen that before.
Thanks, and its super simple to make. Burns like crazy too.
Iridium242 Good job. 5 x 5 as far as I can tell. Good job on showing the build, on your explanations, and great attitude on the entire thing. You should be proud of your work & self! (Don't get a swelled head, tho. Lol) All the best to you.
Iridium242 can it use lower grade alcohol, like75%?
how low have you tried?
Imnainggolan PM lower grades work but, they soot up more because it's not as pure.
akbychoice thx for replying.
no problem for me, because alcohol 75% is far more available.
i haven't saw any 96% on the counter
Thank you.
Cap fuel jar with intact lid to save fuel.
Put stove cap on another jar for storage.
Soda bottle cap priming tool with cotton ball wick is cleaver suggestion.
Burn test results?
Boiling time?
(2 cups @ 212°F)
Burn time?
Stove holder?
Wind break?
Why does burner have the loop???
Brilliant concept with simple design.
We really like it.
For sale???
that looks like 1/4inch tubing. Which is the most common size used in various applications
Your copper tube looks 1/4" and the pipe you're bending it round looks to be 1/2"
Excellent design and 2 which I have made both work great . Added a small amount of fiberglass house insulation inside the jar which helps to keep the fuel from "sloshing" around . Thank you once again Iridium 242 and have an excellent New Year !
love the idea, love the concept, love how you build it, and most of the top... love the way you deliver it! it's sounds waaaaaay easy and fun! superb!
I'm very into survival hacks I really like this idea !!!!!!
Can this be used for food warmers (the ones with water pans underneath the food pan) instead of solid fuel/sterno? Thanks.
Had one of these when I was a boy, (I admit it was shop bought) it was made of brass and ran on ordinary petrol, great little camping stove provided you took some sensible precautions like not using it inside the tent lol. The basic layout was identical to this with the exception that it had a primer dimple underneath the burner coil which you filled with a spot of petrol and lit to preheat and prime the jet. Thanks for the vid.
you must of had the StescO, got 3, around £30 on ebay, :)
I love this kind of stuff I'm glad I found your channel I subscribe
Now that's a good idea. It looks pretty simple and effective. The cost is also probably rather low. I think I could make one easily.
I am really excited to make some of these, using your techniques, as well as some suggested by viewers.
Thanks for the video and the info. I am a subscriber now. This is a great project.
I use fine grain salt when I bend small thin copper pipes because to be sure that I get everything out I just put it in water and let the salt disolve.
I personally would love to just go into Home Depot or Lowe's and have a copper wire already cut and designed for me. This way if I do not want the extra material, it keeps it quick and simple for several different types of projects. Cool idea.