On vacation once I took my expensive DSLR and a few lenses thinking I’d get these great shots, and a tiny 4mp point and shoot that I maybe paid $50 for. I had more fun using that little point and shoot over my DSLR and as a result, the images from it are still my favorite from that vacation.
I just got my lx-100 yesterday. Barely used for $150 on Facebook! I’m new into photography and couldn’t believe the deal! Thank you for making this video and helping me learn my new hobby!
The "cheap enough to take everywhere" aspect is pretty important too isn't it. Something you can sling in your pocket and have and not worry about is something you're going to take to interesting places. Also, for hobby use, the feel of the thing too. The LX100 controls look like it'd just be nice to use
I sold all my full frame Nikon DSLRs and lenses and bought a $300 Panasonic GX85 with a kit lens. Best decision I ever made. I am now taking better pictures. An expensive camera does not make a mediocre photographer a good one, but a good photographer can shine using just about anything.
I prefer all the images shown here from the LX100. But it isn't a fair comparison since you used a different filter. But even composition-wise, you took better photos with the Panasonic.
Yes sadly I only realised I was missing the filter for the Sony when I was out shooting and had already shot the LX100 images - both are edited with the same preset
I do street photography. I only use crop factor bodies. I use Panasonic GX85 and G9. They both provide good IBIS. They also do good video. The primary difference is the size and weight. Also a Fuji user. No IBIS. Larger sensor. Love, love, love the film simulations. Panasonic and Fuji are go selections for doing street photography. Mask On Nurse Marty
Thanks! Still something I think gets overlooked, even though I have more expensive cameras, I shoot on my phone time to time, older compacts and analogue often!
i got an lx100 last year on an open box sale at my local edmonton camera store.. I put on a leather bottom case that i bought off amazon, with a good leather strap, and that makes it very easy to hold, carry and use..
I’ve been wanting the LX100 for a few years now. I was able to rent one for vacation and since then I have tried to get one of my own. It’s ridiculous how much this point and shoot is going for on EBay, online camera stores and FB marketplace.
I was considering picking up an LX100 but the prices recently have shot through the roof so I opted for a Sony RX100 IV for about £120 cheaper than any second hand LX100 I could find. It's great when I shoot street I can pretty much use the sony and no one even thinks its a proper camera and I get great results from it. I'm probably at some point going to get the lx100II or maybe even the TZ200 but until then, my RX100IV will be my street camera. Great video btw.
That sounds like a good decision, I have never got along with Sony compacts but they are definitely packed with features. I'm currently using a 16 year old Canon compact and having a great time with it!
Thanks for this. Makes me now want to buy one. I am sure many would not care which camera these images were produced on as they all look acceptable in quality.
Over the years I've used the LX3, LX5 & LX100 and they have all been really great cameras with all the controls and photographer needs and really excellent. v fast leica lenses (lx100 f1.2 at shortest focal length), & they have all has phenomenal macro modes. Panasonic colour science is maybe the most underrated. I particularly like the multi-aspect ratio feature on the lx100 which switches between 3:2, 16:9, 1:1, 4:3, this leads to the camera being advertised as a 12MP camera which is true regarding the output but it is being read from a 16mp sensor (same as GH4 i think), meaning the quality is much higher than you would expect from a 12mp. When buying used they are sometimes listed as 12mp which tend to attract less attention if you're looking for a deal. Anyway, there is an ver ii which is 17mp & much more expensive. This is my daily carry and has been for years.
1.7 at the shortest** then 2.8 at the longest, although it goes down to 2.1 when you go to 35mm but that's still pretty decent for the bokeh you need for street or casual shooting
I'd say the two reasons for me, that I'd want a $200 camera over a $3,000 camera is replacement cost. If you damage or otherwise "lose" (either to theft or you actually leave it somewhere) a $200 camera that's one thing, but a $3,000 camera would make you feel terrible. Second, the LX100 is small e nough you could probably put it into a coat pocket and always have it with you. Not quite so with the higher end bodies, and especially FF cameras. Plus having a camear that's instantly ready all the time is important for street photography (this can be done wit ha regular interchangable lens camera, but if you're switching lenses or attaching the lens, you can miss shots). With a camera with an integrated lens you don't have to think about lenses. Plus as you sort of eluded to, it may be harder to get into things with a full-sized FF camera versus a small P&S type camera.
It's good to hear your opinion of the LX100, especially considering you shoot something so much newer and advanced. I've had mine now for about 3 years and I love it. The lens is so damn sharp and the colour science is lovely too. I love the JPEGs straight out of camera but the quality and level of information from the RAW files is pretty amazing. I've alway felt this camera punches way about its weight and until this year's, it regularly sold for over £300 used. I'm unsure why it's dropped in price by so much. Mine still gets used quite often but recently I've been taking out my little Panasonic GM1 with the 17mm pancake lens instead, as it slips into my jeans pocket. The LX100 is an astounding piece of kit and very highly recommended.
A GX80 may be a better cheapish used choice because the sensor is accessible, it has ibis and an effective dust shedding system plus a full touchscreen. The kit lens is great but it does open the opportunity to add more lenses, of which there must be near 100 available models commonly available new and used. The critical factor is the dust issue of course. Due to this very real risk, i would choose the GX80 over the LX100 every single time even if it cost a bit more. There is no easy or cheap way to clean the LX100 sensor. £230 plus £100 for a lens with warranties from a big used camera dealer in the uk for the GX80. Yes, more expensive but still very low budget. £450 new.
I have an old Canon S100 point and shoot that has manual controls that I used to take with me all the time. The battery is going bad, and it's only 12mp (IIRC) but it's also a tiny sensor and 12 yrs old. It's fun but I need a replacement that can give better results at 8x10 print size because the S100 falls apart once you go bigger than 4x6. The LX100 looks like a good choice. But so does an Olympus OMD EM5 MK2 with a 12 or 17mm prime. Maybe the Lumix GX85.
If it's your first upgrade in a while I'd consider something with interchangeable lenses unless the compact factor is really important to you. The GX85 could be a great shout!
@@GeorgeHolden I have a full frame RP, but I want a small and light and not expensive, but with good enough IQ walk around camera. I think the GX 85 fits the description,
I only shoot manual focus lenses these days for the street. Much more fun, more character, and my shooting style is much better. A cheap camera does everything O need, although, I do always go for interchangeable lens cameras. I have Sony's for weddings etc.
Do you enjoy manual focus with compact camera or mirrorless lens? I find I'd rather use an adapted pure manual lens if I'm going to manual focus so I can keep linear focus
@@GeorgeHolden funny thing is I actually have an A1, but that’s the only camera that I use and I’m going on a trip across the US so gotta ask someone for this one. I am still quite curious how my camera compares to these other 2 though considering the price gap.
Hi I am in my 70's and have had in the past (just at start of pandemic) bought an Olympus Pen 10 with 3 different lens. With the view to start taking better photographs. THEN we went full into the pandemic so could not go out to use it. Fortunately we lived next to a farm so had something to take photos of. I have a slight tremor in my hands and RA and had a big problem trying to change lens all the time. So I sold all of it. Am now looking for something maybe the size of the Pen 10 but no bigger but not changing lens. I looked at the LX100 mark 2 cos I thought I could have a play with the settings etc and learn them. I would like to photograph by beaches, in woods (birds and plants etc), so need one with a good zoom for bit of distance, and touchscreen focus (rather than turning small dial), good stabilisation, macro, different scenes etc etc. I know that the Lumix LX100's do have a dust problem, so I might have to not consider this one. Do you have any ideas please as to what camera would be good for me with needing all these things please, and not too expensive Please?? I live in UK and there are hardly any camera shops anymore that I can go to and hold the camera to see if awkward for me. Plus hardly any cameras about unless you want the changing lens ones, which no good for me. I have been looking all this year but still stuck.
Hi Andria, thanks so much for commenting and always great to meet another UK photographer! Happy to help as much as I can, I think something like the Pen series is a good option, luckily with the same lens mount Panasonic has the Lumix GX7, 8 and 9 series. The GX9 being the most recent but there are deals to be had on the GX7 with Wilkinson camera or on MPB for less than £200 - then it would be down to your choice of lens. Because it is a micro four thirds lens system like the Pen, you have a choice of quite small and light lenses that achieve a longer zoom. The GX7 also has touchscreen as you mentioned and in body stabilization which will keep photos and video stabilized. I hope this helps!
@@GeorgeHolden Hi George, sorry I did say I had the Pen 10 BUT could not change the lens. So I am looking for a camera (not too bulky or heavy) that I don't have to change lens on but with all the things I need ie touchscreen, zoom, steady shot etc etc
@@AndriaMrs Ah yes you did, sorry about that - have you looked into the Sony RX10's before? They're a tiny bit bigger but they have a very big zoom range of 24-200mm - they have several generations and I believe the original goes 2nd generation the RX10 II goes for £459 used on MPB
@@GeorgeHolden Oooooo no will look at those now thank you. I was looking at the Lumix TZ95 but you just cannot go look at one anywhere. Tried Chester this morning but one shop NOTHING in they said, no compact cameras, and the other one had nothing only the change lens ones 😔
I think most people selling second hand are not really concions when they price their used gear, digital gear fade quick and lot people can't handle that fact. My feeling is when they are priced correctly they sell quickly so not stay on the website for long, when people try to overprice they stay on list much longer if not until expiration. So that statistically you will see much more of the overpriced than the fair priced. In result that gives a false impression of the true second hand value that should be based on the price of item actually sold not the listed ones. That i think create a bad feedback loop as people who want to sell see lot of similar item at a actually overpriced mark and use that as reinforcement clue to think they are right with their (over)pricing. Back in the day when you where selling in brick and mortar shops there was a third party to tell you that the price you hope to sell often is just not in line with reality, on listing website there is no more that gatekeeper. I see that in many fields, not just photo gear, that kinda kill second hand market unfortunately.
Love my Leica type 109 (Who is the Leica twin of the lx100 but with différents features for : 1) the 13 mp pictures looks like " 35 mm film" feeling (I start phorography in 1963 so...) IAM an old school manual caméra lover ( even if you have full auto mode ) i hâte digital zoom, but you can use optical zoom Up to 150mm in JPEG mode: bokeh is incredebile with 1,7 tob2,8 apertures, most small mirorless caméras dont have thèse full lens openings on the market.
More expensive cameras only have a couple more features that are sometimes needed in specific situations and they'll typically have a lot more menu items and functions. BUT as far as using a camera as a camera basically anything will be fine.
Luuuuurved my LX100, but........ the dust on the sensor was a real issue and a serious disappointment, spoiling what had become my go-to camera for everyday photography. After much cogitation and consideration, I purchased an Olympus Pen EPL7 and a couple of telephoto lenses for less than what I sold the LX100 for; the Olympus has more than met my expectations and it's capabilities are superb, yet I do miss the LX100, shame about that dust..............
@@GeorgeHolden Indeed, I purchased a pancake Lumix 12 - 36mm lens, plus a 40 - 150 M.Zuiko, tiny lenses - big performance, both exceptionally sharp............ oh, and very inexpensive.............
The only thing I didn't like about my LX100, and this ultimately led me to flipping it despite being a petty reason, is I'm not a fan of the telescopic lens. I am a fan of the lens, its Leica glass made for the Leica iteration that you get to enjoy on the Panasonic version for a massive amount less in price. It covers most of the primes I would have with a small camera with step zoom to give the "bag of primes" feeling snapping to each popular focal length. I just hate the look of telescopic lenses, the way it sticks out with a narrow shape bothers me and at least the LX100 II did have possible dust issues due to the moving lens. After flipping mine, I grabbed an Olympus E-P5 before they've seen some recent popularity when they were deemed just old enough to be worthless and lame for 300 USD matching 17mm included. I also have a 15mm PanaLeica, but that generally stays on my GX85 due to the Aperture ring only working on Panasonic bodies unless new Olympus ones were updated. The E-PL7 or E-M10.II/III with a 14 or 20mm Lumix lens (28/40mm equivalent) tossed on is a great bit of kit, but you would be committing to MFT at that point, even if it's a relatively small amount. Not a big loss, MFT is great for a travel/pocket camera with the pancakes; even haters will admit that is true. Still, that 300-400 could be used towards a Fuji, Canon, whatever you wanted to go, maybe even a Leica lens cap if you're lucky.
Hi, I love your pictures on the lx100. How did you get the beautiful vintage/slightly blown out soft light effect on the lx100 pictures? Was it added in post production? I have a G7x mark ii and would love to use the same effect.
I'm an enthusiast and I bought a LX100 II to practice and learn. I really love that camera, well it's the only I've ever had but I know it will have a good place in my heart haha. I love compact cameras.
Great video! I just picked up a Lumix LX10 as a portable photography camera and was wondering how I could achieve the same colors and "film look" that you achieved with the lx100. Are you you shooting jpeg with a color recipe or editing raw files in post? Also, I definitely preferred the softer colors on on the lx100 compared to the A7C did you edit the photos differently in any way? Thanks!
ITs almost tsame with 20mp flip LCD touch screen. For the rest ITs identical. With 20mp you loose the film " 35mm" effect of the lx100
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Me encanta el vídeo y tu posición frente al tema. Gran trabajo. Yo también creo que no es necesario tener la mejor cámara del momento para conseguir lo que quieres.
My 2 cents: the LX100 is indeed a nice camera. I have owned it for some 6 years and have taken really good photos. I love the speedy electronic shutter and the mechanical buttons on the body and the classic looks. But... let's compare apples to apples. The camera has an average AF, its zoom lens sucks in dust like a vacuum cleaner and you can't dismount the lens to clean the sensor. Taking street photos with this camera is a bit of a pain if you compare it to Ricoh GR or Fuji X100 series - because the lens zooms out when the camera is turned on and its zoom mechanism tends to be slow. The camera is too small to fit comfortably in the hand and too big (esp. with the lens zoomed out) to fit in your pocket - compare Ricoh GR III that is smaller than most smartphones and Fuji x100 that fits in the hand much better than the LX100. Finally, the pictures are not that fantastic from the LX100, Ricoh and Fuji beat the LX100 hands down on image quality. So, while it's still a pretty capable camera, the LX100 has its own flaws that should be kept in mind while comparing it to other classics.
Thanks for commenting! Agreed the image quality isn't top top top, but I think the versatility it offers for a camera of this size and interface is a special package. Yet to have problems with dust intake but it's something I've heard a lot about.
@@Gjuby You can't get a Ricoh GR or X100 series for 200 bucks though. I owned a ricoh gr3x and it makes fantastic images but its $1000 for a compact with no EVF and rough AF. I think the point of the video was to show that you don't need to spend 1k plus for a hobby camera and I agree.
Get sony RX100 from Mk1 to Mk7 or even MK8? quite cheap now. I bought 2nd hand MkIV with 4K for US$300. which has 20Mps sensor compared to LX100 12Mps. sensor. RX100 is an Awesome camera.
I've had the ZV1 which I guess is the RX100's funky cousin, and I did like it but didn't hit the spot for me - at the moment the LX100 is solid for me personally but I'm definitely considering other options
Lx100 is the best value for money, but also cult good getting you as close to real Leica functionality and quality as you can without spending Leica money.
@@GeorgeHolden of course, but in general also. The lx100 and the gx9 just have some of that digital Leica feel about them. Every time you pick them up you get that aesthetic sence of joy. Tools, with character.
On me the point is: is it still room for such a camera (P LX100) comparing top cameraphone? We should consider we already have 1 inch sensor on phones (plus computational photography)...
I mean, an LX100 for $200 is a steal. I can't tell you how frustrated I am that they have never done those film/fuji style controls on an interchangeable lens MFT camera.
Great video! Both of the cameras can produce beautiful imatges. I know you are into street photography now and it's amazing, I will also love to see your video preferences with the A7C and your editing workflow if possible. There are lots of different configurations to edit and export a video. Cheers!
Excelent. Thanks. Pienso igual que usted, en muchas ocasiones una camara de calidad pero muy barata, puede hacer igual trabajo que una muy cara o costosa. Me encanto su opinión, lo felicito. Agradezco su sinceridad, realismo y objetividad. Muchas, pero muchas gracias. Continue haciendonestos interesantes videos.
¡Muchas gracias por mirar, estoy feliz de que hayas disfrutado el video! Espero seguir haciendo videos que te parezcan interesantes, ¡que tengas un excelente día!
Hi! I have a question, I have only ever shot on film (Leica Mini) and I was thinking of purchasing a digital camera for the first time. I am interested in the Lumix GX80 (which everyone seems to love!) or the Fuji X-E2. Which one do you guys suggest? I know the Lumix is more modern and has more features (IS, faster focus, wifi etc) but the Fuji has a really good sensor for film lovers (and colours, and fuji film simulations)! any help?
Really like the a7c form factor. But it needs a few improvements ie. Evf. Maybe mk2 will solve this 🙂 as a canon shooter iam hoping they bring something out similar. Maybe wishful thinking 🙂
I used a Lumix GX-1 for street photography the past two years. It was awesome. I now use the GX-9 for that purpose. No need to spend tons of money on a Street camera. Nobody wants to be noticed shooting on the streets. Image quality is NOT the primary reason to pick a camera here.
Doing street photography could be dangerous sometimes, you walk into the empty/lonely street, small alley, slump area where the camera could get robbed/stolen. I'm not confident enough to bring expensive camera & lenses pair. I'll get small used cheap camera, probably old Olympus PEN camera.
You can always get insurance for your gear, I always shoot with my best camera and lens to get the best quality. I am thinking about getting a Nikon zfc just for the look and feel
i don't have a camera yet i'm 17 and i haven't the money for that yet, i just think if i would have something expensive i would protect it too, if i'm alone washing my dirt bike i have always near me a 55mm wrench you never know if you would need to crush some heads which trying to steal your stuff💀
I hoped to learn that 200 dollar camera was as good :) but after seeing the photo's, I think Sony camera is much better. Sharper. Lumix pics are very noisy.
A big misconception is that the results should justify the price. No. Some times it just feels more fun achieving the same results by spending more money.
@@GeorgeHolden Both approaches are perfectly legit ways to enjoy the craft. As an amateur, I kind of feel like the resulting image comes secondary to just having fun with gear, whether it's a 50 year old piece of trash like a Smena 8, or an overpriced high-tech marvel with more features that one will ever need :D
You could get a used lx100 ii for under £500 on ebay which its a great deal and image wise would rival the a7c, unfortunately its onboard audio lets it down for videography unless you use a separate recorder. I recently got a GX9+12-32 for £370, 25mm t1.4 for £180 (50mm equivalent), 12-35 t2.8 ii for £330 (24-70 equivalent), 35-100 t2.8 ii for £380 (70-200 equivalent). I think its a great tiny all around kit collection I separately bought a g90+14-140 ii for £600 (24-280 equivalent). The lense is an amazing travel lens but isn't useful for me so I dont plan on keeping it which is why i bought the lenses above. I can trade in both for over £600 so i'm happy that i'll get more than what I paid for it. Also got a g9 for £500. All have better stabilisation that any full frame camera and also benefit from dual IS making the benefit even more noticable. Only weakness is that I dont like going over iso 3200 M4/3 has some real camera body and lens bargains right now and its a relatively cheap and easy way to satisfy G.A.S My next target is the Leica 12-60 T2.8-4 for around £350 and to sell off either the g90 or g9.
That sounds great! Yes I've had full MFT kits in the past with a GH5 but for my professional work I couldn't deal without full frame and improved low light in tight situations. I think if I were to do a big trip with only one set up I could consider a G series lumix for a photo and video setup for sure
@@GeorgeHolden another would be that Sony apsc is too expensive. You can easily get m43 with stabilization under 200 pounds but Sony a6500 is way much more expensive than that.
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On vacation once I took my expensive DSLR and a few lenses thinking I’d get these great shots, and a tiny 4mp point and shoot that I maybe paid $50 for. I had more fun using that little point and shoot over my DSLR and as a result, the images from it are still my favorite from that vacation.
I totally hear you! That's exactly how I ended up trying cheaper cameras - sometimes the expensive camera stays in your bag too much 😂
This is my experience with the G7XII I bought for my wife. The usability in the point and shoot is incredible.
I just got my lx-100 yesterday. Barely used for $150 on Facebook! I’m new into photography and couldn’t believe the deal! Thank you for making this video and helping me learn my new hobby!
Amazing! I'm glad you found a good deal too 😄
The "cheap enough to take everywhere" aspect is pretty important too isn't it. Something you can sling in your pocket and have and not worry about is something you're going to take to interesting places. Also, for hobby use, the feel of the thing too. The LX100 controls look like it'd just be nice to use
Very important to me, I've started carrying the extra smaller digital camera when I'm out shooting 35mm too
I sold all my full frame Nikon DSLRs and lenses and bought a $300 Panasonic GX85 with a kit lens. Best decision I ever made. I am now taking better pictures. An expensive camera does not make a mediocre photographer a good one, but a good photographer can shine using just about anything.
Great to hear!
Absolutely true!
I prefer all the images shown here from the LX100. But it isn't a fair comparison since you used a different filter. But even composition-wise, you took better photos with the Panasonic.
Yes sadly I only realised I was missing the filter for the Sony when I was out shooting and had already shot the LX100 images - both are edited with the same preset
I have use LX-100 for month now and it surprisingly do all what i want and it really is a workhorse in a petite camera
Great to hear!
@@GeorgeHolden thank a lot
The LX100 was my first camera and it is a great camera for beginners and experienced photographers. LX100m2 comes with a vertical flipscreen
Oh does it? As in a tilt screen and not fully articulating?
@@GeorgeHolden yes a tilt screen that was the word I was looking for :)
@@PaulTakesPhotos You must be thinking the Gx9. The lx100ii screen doesn't move, I own it.
I’ve had both. Neither has a flip or tilt screen. The GX85/GX80 or GX9 do. I wish Panasonic would standardize camera names.
I do street photography. I only use crop factor bodies. I use Panasonic GX85 and G9. They both provide good IBIS. They also do good video. The primary difference is the size and weight.
Also a Fuji user. No IBIS. Larger sensor. Love, love, love the film simulations. Panasonic and Fuji are go selections for doing street photography.
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Ah yes the gx85 is tempting! The IBIS especially is a great benefit I feel - cheers!
I AGREE - i got a tz80 camera it does all i want it to do including raw and it also takes some amazing photos!
Oh yeah I've looked at the tz80! Glad you like it and thanks for watching 😄
I love how you mentioned the fact that other UA-camrs only suggest these thousand dollar cameras like we all have thousands to spend on a camera
Thanks! Still something I think gets overlooked, even though I have more expensive cameras, I shoot on my phone time to time, older compacts and analogue often!
i got an lx100 last year on an open box sale at my local edmonton camera store.. I put on a leather bottom case that i bought off amazon, with a good leather strap, and that makes it very easy to hold, carry and use..
That's great!
I’ve been wanting the LX100 for a few years now. I was able to rent one for vacation and since then I have tried to get one of my own. It’s ridiculous how much this point and shoot is going for on EBay, online camera stores and FB marketplace.
I was considering picking up an LX100 but the prices recently have shot through the roof so I opted for a Sony RX100 IV for about £120 cheaper than any second hand LX100 I could find. It's great when I shoot street I can pretty much use the sony and no one even thinks its a proper camera and I get great results from it.
I'm probably at some point going to get the lx100II or maybe even the TZ200 but until then, my RX100IV will be my street camera.
Great video btw.
That sounds like a good decision, I have never got along with Sony compacts but they are definitely packed with features. I'm currently using a 16 year old Canon compact and having a great time with it!
Thanks for this. Makes me now want to buy one. I am sure many would not care which camera these images were produced on as they all look acceptable in quality.
Over the years I've used the LX3, LX5 & LX100 and they have all been really great cameras with all the controls and photographer needs and really excellent. v fast leica lenses (lx100 f1.2 at shortest focal length), & they have all has phenomenal macro modes. Panasonic colour science is maybe the most underrated. I particularly like the multi-aspect ratio feature on the lx100 which switches between 3:2, 16:9, 1:1, 4:3, this leads to the camera being advertised as a 12MP camera which is true regarding the output but it is being read from a 16mp sensor (same as GH4 i think), meaning the quality is much higher than you would expect from a 12mp. When buying used they are sometimes listed as 12mp which tend to attract less attention if you're looking for a deal. Anyway, there is an ver ii which is 17mp & much more expensive. This is my daily carry and has been for years.
1.7 at the shortest** then 2.8 at the longest, although it goes down to 2.1 when you go to 35mm but that's still pretty decent for the bokeh you need for street or casual shooting
I'd say the two reasons for me, that I'd want a $200 camera over a $3,000 camera is replacement cost. If you damage or otherwise "lose" (either to theft or you actually leave it somewhere) a $200 camera that's one thing, but a $3,000 camera would make you feel terrible. Second, the LX100 is small e nough you could probably put it into a coat pocket and always have it with you. Not quite so with the higher end bodies, and especially FF cameras. Plus having a camear that's instantly ready all the time is important for street photography (this can be done wit ha regular interchangable lens camera, but if you're switching lenses or attaching the lens, you can miss shots). With a camera with an integrated lens you don't have to think about lenses. Plus as you sort of eluded to, it may be harder to get into things with a full-sized FF camera versus a small P&S type camera.
I agree! I think it's easy to carry a smaller camera with you without worrying about it as much vs a more expensive camera
I do really think the motives and compositions of the photos you took on the lx100 are better chosen. That's what makes the pictures better.
The photo sessions are too different really I agree the lx100 images are stronger
@@GeorgeHolden Anyway, I did really enjoy the Video! Maybe it's just because you are more confident in working with the little Panasonic.
@@Latzi thanks! I think it was these separate photo sessions, both part of the same day and the Lx100 probably got the better first half! 😅
I like people like him, he is fair and not about look what I can afford, leaves it to you to decide. tells it as it is.
I like people like you Michael, thanks for your feedback 👍
It's good to hear your opinion of the LX100, especially considering you shoot something so much newer and advanced. I've had mine now for about 3 years and I love it. The lens is so damn sharp and the colour science is lovely too. I love the JPEGs straight out of camera but the quality and level of information from the RAW files is pretty amazing. I've alway felt this camera punches way about its weight and until this year's, it regularly sold for over £300 used. I'm unsure why it's dropped in price by so much. Mine still gets used quite often but recently I've been taking out my little Panasonic GM1 with the 17mm pancake lens instead, as it slips into my jeans pocket. The LX100 is an astounding piece of kit and very highly recommended.
I've read that getting dust on the sensor is a major issue for the LX100
Great comparison video. I'll keep my eyes open for the LX100 specially because of that viewfinder.
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Great video. The auto-CC having some difficulty with phrases like "interchangeable lens Marylise camera" just added to the effect.
Hahahaha I'm glad it's being useful 😅
@@GeorgeHolden Right? Next up: "Dee Esselar" as the star of the video.
A GX80 may be a better cheapish used choice because the sensor is accessible, it has ibis and an effective dust shedding system plus a full touchscreen. The kit lens is great but it does open the opportunity to add more lenses, of which there must be near 100 available models commonly available new and used. The critical factor is the dust issue of course. Due to this very real risk, i would choose the GX80 over the LX100 every single time even if it cost a bit more. There is no easy or cheap way to clean the LX100 sensor. £230 plus £100 for a lens with warranties from a big used camera dealer in the uk for the GX80. Yes, more expensive but still very low budget. £450 new.
I like that idea! I mention the GX line in a recent video and if it was my money the GX80 is where I'd go 👍
I have an old Canon S100 point and shoot that has manual controls that I used to take with me all the time. The battery is going bad, and it's only 12mp (IIRC) but it's also a tiny sensor and 12 yrs old. It's fun but I need a replacement that can give better results at 8x10 print size because the S100 falls apart once you go bigger than 4x6. The LX100 looks like a good choice. But so does an Olympus OMD EM5 MK2 with a 12 or 17mm prime.
Maybe the Lumix GX85.
If it's your first upgrade in a while I'd consider something with interchangeable lenses unless the compact factor is really important to you. The GX85 could be a great shout!
@@GeorgeHolden I have a full frame RP, but I want a small and light and not expensive, but with good enough IQ walk around camera. I think the GX 85 fits the description,
That camera has been so hyped over the last few years, its hard to get a good deal anymore.
Why does the LX100 have almost a bloom effect to it? Love that so freaking much. Did you do that in post or was it straight out of the camera?
I actually used a diffusion filter and forgot the equivalent for my tamron on the Sony for this shoot 😅
I only shoot manual focus lenses these days for the street. Much more fun, more character, and my shooting style is much better. A cheap camera does everything O need, although, I do always go for interchangeable lens cameras. I have Sony's for weddings etc.
Do you enjoy manual focus with compact camera or mirrorless lens? I find I'd rather use an adapted pure manual lens if I'm going to manual focus so I can keep linear focus
@@GeorgeHolden I use dedicated manual lenses on my mirrorless camera. The Voigtlander 40mm 1.2 and the Voigtlander 50mm 1.2 being my 2 favourites.
You should do another step up, like Sony A1+24-70mm gm ii for example
I should! Do you have an A1 I can borrow?!
@@GeorgeHolden funny thing is I actually have an A1, but that’s the only camera that I use and I’m going on a trip across the US so gotta ask someone for this one. I am still quite curious how my camera compares to these other 2 though considering the price gap.
Emanual is so.... manual iso. The seven seas is good enough. I have an Alex 100 mk 2 and love it! Love the sub titles! Tks
Oh my god is that how bad they are?!
Hi I am in my 70's and have had in the past (just at start of pandemic) bought an Olympus Pen 10 with 3 different lens. With the view to start taking better photographs. THEN we went full into the pandemic so could not go out to use it. Fortunately we lived next to a farm so had something to take photos of. I have a slight tremor in my hands and RA and had a big problem trying to change lens all the time. So I sold all of it. Am now looking for something maybe the size of the Pen 10 but no bigger but not changing lens. I looked at the LX100 mark 2 cos I thought I could have a play with the settings etc and learn them. I would like to photograph by beaches, in woods (birds and plants etc), so need one with a good zoom for bit of distance, and touchscreen focus (rather than turning small dial), good stabilisation, macro, different scenes etc etc. I know that the Lumix LX100's do have a dust problem, so I might have to not consider this one. Do you have any ideas please as to what camera would be good for me with needing all these things please, and not too expensive Please?? I live in UK and there are hardly any camera shops anymore that I can go to and hold the camera to see if awkward for me. Plus hardly any cameras about unless you want the changing lens ones, which no good for me. I have been looking all this year but still stuck.
Hi Andria, thanks so much for commenting and always great to meet another UK photographer! Happy to help as much as I can, I think something like the Pen series is a good option, luckily with the same lens mount Panasonic has the Lumix GX7, 8 and 9 series. The GX9 being the most recent but there are deals to be had on the GX7 with Wilkinson camera or on MPB for less than £200 - then it would be down to your choice of lens. Because it is a micro four thirds lens system like the Pen, you have a choice of quite small and light lenses that achieve a longer zoom. The GX7 also has touchscreen as you mentioned and in body stabilization which will keep photos and video stabilized. I hope this helps!
@@GeorgeHolden Hi George, sorry I did say I had the Pen 10 BUT could not change the lens. So I am looking for a camera (not too bulky or heavy) that I don't have to change lens on but with all the things I need ie touchscreen, zoom, steady shot etc etc
@@AndriaMrs Ah yes you did, sorry about that - have you looked into the Sony RX10's before? They're a tiny bit bigger but they have a very big zoom range of 24-200mm - they have several generations and I believe the original goes 2nd generation the RX10 II goes for £459 used on MPB
@@GeorgeHolden Oooooo no will look at those now thank you. I was looking at the Lumix TZ95 but you just cannot go look at one anywhere. Tried Chester this morning but one shop NOTHING in they said, no compact cameras, and the other one had nothing only the change lens ones 😔
Unfortunately The LX 100 is still $400-$500 here in the US. For under $200 I would pick one up for travel like you said.
Same in the UK for most listings but we have the ultra low-priced models popping up like this one
Richtig.. Selbst Second Hand kostet in Deutschland 400-500€!!
I think most people selling second hand are not really concions when they price their used gear, digital gear fade quick and lot people can't handle that fact. My feeling is when they are priced correctly they sell quickly so not stay on the website for long, when people try to overprice they stay on list much longer if not until expiration. So that statistically you will see much more of the overpriced than the fair priced. In result that gives a false impression of the true second hand value that should be based on the price of item actually sold not the listed ones. That i think create a bad feedback loop as people who want to sell see lot of similar item at a actually overpriced mark and use that as reinforcement clue to think they are right with their (over)pricing. Back in the day when you where selling in brick and mortar shops there was a third party to tell you that the price you hope to sell often is just not in line with reality, on listing website there is no more that gatekeeper. I see that in many fields, not just photo gear, that kinda kill second hand market unfortunately.
Love my Leica type 109 (Who is the Leica twin of the lx100 but with différents features for : 1) the 13 mp pictures looks like " 35 mm film" feeling (I start phorography in 1963 so...) IAM an old school manual caméra lover ( even if you have full auto mode ) i hâte digital zoom, but you can use optical zoom Up to 150mm in JPEG mode: bokeh is incredebile with 1,7 tob2,8 apertures, most small mirorless caméras dont have thèse full lens openings on the market.
That's interesting! Have you tried the Leica and Lumix side by side? Always been curious whether they're the same
More expensive cameras only have a couple more features that are sometimes needed in specific situations and they'll typically have a lot more menu items and functions. BUT as far as using a camera as a camera basically anything will be fine.
Very well said!
Great info. Very sensible.
Luuuuurved my LX100, but........ the dust on the sensor was a real issue and a serious disappointment, spoiling what had become my go-to camera for everyday photography. After much cogitation and consideration, I purchased an Olympus Pen EPL7 and a couple of telephoto lenses for less than what I sold the LX100 for; the Olympus has more than met my expectations and it's capabilities are superb, yet I do miss the LX100, shame about that dust..............
That's good to hear - are there compact lenses available for the Pen?
@@GeorgeHolden Indeed, I purchased a pancake Lumix 12 - 36mm lens, plus a 40 - 150 M.Zuiko, tiny lenses - big performance, both exceptionally sharp............ oh, and very inexpensive.............
The only thing I didn't like about my LX100, and this ultimately led me to flipping it despite being a petty reason, is I'm not a fan of the telescopic lens. I am a fan of the lens, its Leica glass made for the Leica iteration that you get to enjoy on the Panasonic version for a massive amount less in price. It covers most of the primes I would have with a small camera with step zoom to give the "bag of primes" feeling snapping to each popular focal length. I just hate the look of telescopic lenses, the way it sticks out with a narrow shape bothers me and at least the LX100 II did have possible dust issues due to the moving lens.
After flipping mine, I grabbed an Olympus E-P5 before they've seen some recent popularity when they were deemed just old enough to be worthless and lame for 300 USD matching 17mm included. I also have a 15mm PanaLeica, but that generally stays on my GX85 due to the Aperture ring only working on Panasonic bodies unless new Olympus ones were updated. The E-PL7 or E-M10.II/III with a 14 or 20mm Lumix lens (28/40mm equivalent) tossed on is a great bit of kit, but you would be committing to MFT at that point, even if it's a relatively small amount. Not a big loss, MFT is great for a travel/pocket camera with the pancakes; even haters will admit that is true. Still, that 300-400 could be used towards a Fuji, Canon, whatever you wanted to go, maybe even a Leica lens cap if you're lucky.
I think the Lumix pictures are a little more blurry and fewer contrast. But maybe you just had a dirty lense or i have hallucinations :D
That's the diffusion filter making its mess 😅
i saw Gracie Barra patch on a gi, you practice bjj ? Nice channel dude
love your videos! keep up the great work
Thank you!
Hi, I love your pictures on the lx100. How did you get the beautiful vintage/slightly blown out soft light effect on the lx100 pictures? Was it added in post production? I have a G7x mark ii and would love to use the same effect.
Hi! So I literally use a diffusion filter on the lens, on my 49mm thread lenses I just used a k&f concept black diffusion filter
hi george! what camera/lens did you use to film the talking portion of this video please? :)
That was on the A7SIII with a Tamron 17-28mm
I'm an enthusiast and I bought a LX100 II to practice and learn. I really love that camera, well it's the only I've ever had but I know it will have a good place in my heart haha.
I love compact cameras.
Same here compacts make for fun cameras!
Great video! I just picked up a Lumix LX10 as a portable photography camera and was wondering how I could achieve the same colors and "film look" that you achieved with the lx100. Are you you shooting jpeg with a color recipe or editing raw files in post? Also, I definitely preferred the softer colors on on the lx100 compared to the A7C did you edit the photos differently in any way? Thanks!
Thanks! I shoot raw then edit with my film emulation presets in Lightroom!
You should compare it to LX MkII.... That camera is amazing
I could!
ITs almost tsame with 20mp flip LCD touch screen. For the rest ITs identical. With 20mp you loose the film " 35mm" effect of the lx100
Me encanta el vídeo y tu posición frente al tema. Gran trabajo. Yo también creo que no es necesario tener la mejor cámara del momento para conseguir lo que quieres.
¡Gracias por ver!
My 2 cents: the LX100 is indeed a nice camera. I have owned it for some 6 years and have taken really good photos. I love the speedy electronic shutter and the mechanical buttons on the body and the classic looks. But... let's compare apples to apples. The camera has an average AF, its zoom lens sucks in dust like a vacuum cleaner and you can't dismount the lens to clean the sensor. Taking street photos with this camera is a bit of a pain if you compare it to Ricoh GR or Fuji X100 series - because the lens zooms out when the camera is turned on and its zoom mechanism tends to be slow. The camera is too small to fit comfortably in the hand and too big (esp. with the lens zoomed out) to fit in your pocket - compare Ricoh GR III that is smaller than most smartphones and Fuji x100 that fits in the hand much better than the LX100. Finally, the pictures are not that fantastic from the LX100, Ricoh and Fuji beat the LX100 hands down on image quality. So, while it's still a pretty capable camera, the LX100 has its own flaws that should be kept in mind while comparing it to other classics.
Thanks for commenting! Agreed the image quality isn't top top top, but I think the versatility it offers for a camera of this size and interface is a special package. Yet to have problems with dust intake but it's something I've heard a lot about.
@@GeorgeHolden whatever floats your boat ;-)...
@@Gjuby You can't get a Ricoh GR or X100 series for 200 bucks though. I owned a ricoh gr3x and it makes fantastic images but its $1000 for a compact with no EVF and rough AF. I think the point of the video was to show that you don't need to spend 1k plus for a hobby camera and I agree.
Oddly enough the prices are way higher in the mpb site with over US$400 for the LUMIX in good condition
Prices have changed and this was in 'well used' condition
Get sony RX100 from Mk1 to Mk7 or even MK8? quite cheap now. I bought 2nd hand MkIV with 4K for US$300. which has 20Mps sensor compared to LX100 12Mps. sensor. RX100 is an Awesome camera.
I've had the ZV1 which I guess is the RX100's funky cousin, and I did like it but didn't hit the spot for me - at the moment the LX100 is solid for me personally but I'm definitely considering other options
@@GeorgeHolden I suppose the image presentation from Lumix is quite different maybe that is why you like this camera.
Lx100 is the best value for money, but also cult good getting you as close to real Leica functionality and quality as you can without spending Leica money.
Do you mean specifically the Leica D Lux?
@@GeorgeHolden of course, but in general also. The lx100 and the gx9 just have some of that digital Leica feel about them. Every time you pick them up you get that aesthetic sence of joy. Tools, with character.
I use Nikon 1 j4 with kit lens for street photography :D. Bougth one for 100eur
On me the point is: is it still room for such a camera (P LX100) comparing top cameraphone? We should consider we already have 1 inch sensor on phones (plus computational photography)...
It's a very good point, and one that I want to dive into in a video. Compact cameras sit in a very weird spot for consumers
Lumix tz100 nice compact camera with zoom
It sure is!
I mean, an LX100 for $200 is a steal. I can't tell you how frustrated I am that they have never done those film/fuji style controls on an interchangeable lens MFT camera.
Same here!
Great video! Both of the cameras can produce beautiful imatges. I know you are into street photography now and it's amazing, I will also love to see your video preferences with the A7C and your editing workflow if possible. There are lots of different configurations to edit and export a video. Cheers!
Thanks Mar! Yes funnily enough next week is a video focused video - not with the A7C but that is definitely something I can put together for you!
Thank you!! I will be there for it. I love how you explain things! 😊
2024 checking in. The cheapest LX100 is currently €414 at MPB. Camera prices just keeps on getting ridiculous...
Excelent. Thanks.
Pienso igual que usted, en muchas ocasiones una camara de calidad pero muy barata, puede hacer igual trabajo que una muy cara o costosa. Me encanto su opinión, lo felicito. Agradezco su sinceridad, realismo y objetividad. Muchas, pero muchas gracias. Continue haciendonestos interesantes videos.
¡Muchas gracias por mirar, estoy feliz de que hayas disfrutado el video! Espero seguir haciendo videos que te parezcan interesantes, ¡que tengas un excelente día!
Hi! I have a question, I have only ever shot on film (Leica Mini) and I was thinking of purchasing a digital camera for the first time. I am interested in the Lumix GX80 (which everyone seems to love!) or the Fuji X-E2. Which one do you guys suggest? I know the Lumix is more modern and has more features (IS, faster focus, wifi etc) but the Fuji has a really good sensor for film lovers (and colours, and fuji film simulations)! any help?
You'll get a larger sensor and more physical controls with the X-E2 but the GX80 will also be suitable for some video too
lx10 or lx 100 ho is better for vedio recorder.
Really like the a7c form factor. But it needs a few improvements ie. Evf. Maybe mk2 will solve this 🙂 as a canon shooter iam hoping they bring something out similar. Maybe wishful thinking 🙂
I hope they make a mkii! Yeah canon could do with a Nikon zfc style camera playing on their old street SLR bodies
@@GeorgeHolden as long it has a built in evf like the a7c 🙂😀
Compare those cameras to the Galaxy S22, S21, Apple 13, Experia or LG V60. Very close pics and videos
I will! Sadly LG are now out of the game, R.I.P. But yes I have videos lined up for when I get the new iPhone
I used a Lumix GX-1 for street photography the past two years. It was awesome. I now use the GX-9 for that purpose. No need to spend tons of money on a Street camera. Nobody wants to be noticed shooting on the streets. Image quality is NOT the primary reason to pick a camera here.
Need to get a good macro option for under 300 tbh...
Tbf the macro on lx100 is supporting capable
@@GeorgeHolden Nice awesome to hear, would there be one step up you'd say that is around 300?
Doing street photography could be dangerous sometimes, you walk into the empty/lonely street, small alley, slump area where the camera could get robbed/stolen. I'm not confident enough to bring expensive camera & lenses pair. I'll get small used cheap camera, probably old Olympus PEN camera.
That's a wise decision! You never know, I think it depends on the person too
You can always get insurance for your gear, I always shoot with my best camera and lens to get the best quality. I am thinking about getting a Nikon zfc just for the look and feel
i don't have a camera yet i'm 17 and i haven't the money for that yet, i just think if i would have something expensive i would protect it too, if i'm alone washing my dirt bike i have always near me a 55mm wrench you never know if you would need to crush some heads which trying to steal your stuff💀
$200 for a Lumix LX100?? I wish
Takes looking in the right places at the right time!
I think the A7C photos are sharper and I like the color. However, you just don't want to take that expensive of kit everywhere.
That's interesting you say that! Both set of photos are using the same preset
The LUMIX images look like there was a smudge on the lens or something.
I hoped to learn that 200 dollar camera was as good :) but after seeing the photo's, I think Sony camera is much better. Sharper. Lumix pics are very noisy.
👍
The cheapest LX100 on Kijiji in Canada is $500
Canadian $?
@@GeorgeHolden Yep, eh
I'm actually planning on buying the LX100 ii. Love the review.
Thanks for watching!
I got a feeling lx100 kills other product line of small/compact camera, thus it has been discontinued
the lumix gives a different vibe tbh
I agree!
Where can you buy this for under $500?
eBay and MPB.com - both worth checking back, since my first LX100 video they all seem to be going quite quick which I didn't anticipate 😅
A big misconception is that the results should justify the price. No. Some times it just feels more fun achieving the same results by spending more money.
I find the opposite, I love getting nice images with older bodies
@@GeorgeHolden Both approaches are perfectly legit ways to enjoy the craft. As an amateur, I kind of feel like the resulting image comes secondary to just having fun with gear, whether it's a 50 year old piece of trash like a Smena 8, or an overpriced high-tech marvel with more features that one will ever need :D
@@paweld I find I waste sooo much time on overpriced new gear 😅
Is LX 100 low light is good?
Not great! If you expose for your subject or midtones I find those are the best results - not very good ISO performance or flexibility in editing
Can it do macro shot?
@@amirulhakim3783 yes it has a macro mode!
@@GeorgeHolden how close can it get?
Where are these LX100 being found for so cheap? eBay has them all for about 450$ :o
A lot of people caught on plus mine was a damaged copy!
Depends were you take the pics, in south LA an $ 200 camera could save your life.
How come?
@@GeorgeHolden have you ever been robbed there? No one robbs you for an $ 200 camera😉 Except times have changed.
@@steffenrosmus9177 I've only been in LA with an old iPhone 😂
Now they are selling this one by $400 :/
Anyway, the images taken with the Lumix look softer and with a glow / ghost effect...
But does it have the Leica colors? Common, just 5.000 for a Q2...
I haven't shot side by side with a Leica to know!
i have Panasonic GX7 with the fixed Leica lenses. yes they produce the Leica colors
Hey! Fellow BJJ practitioner!
OSS!! I'm in between gyms since moving house but excited to get back on the mat 🥋
Looking at humongous lens, I'm not sure it is suitable for street photography. Photography of the streets, sure :)
Yes the lens is too big! But the same set up as the Lumix
Get a Ricoh GR anything. End of discussion
I like the idea! But, I also like flexibility in either a zoom lens or interchangeable lenses - I do want to try the Ricoh though
You could get a used lx100 ii for under £500 on ebay which its a great deal and image wise would rival the a7c, unfortunately its onboard audio lets it down for videography unless you use a separate recorder.
I recently got a GX9+12-32 for £370,
25mm t1.4 for £180 (50mm equivalent),
12-35 t2.8 ii for £330 (24-70 equivalent),
35-100 t2.8 ii for £380 (70-200 equivalent).
I think its a great tiny all around kit collection
I separately bought a g90+14-140 ii for £600 (24-280 equivalent). The lense is an amazing travel lens but isn't useful for me so I dont plan on keeping it which is why i bought the lenses above. I can trade in both for over £600 so i'm happy that i'll get more than what I paid for it.
Also got a g9 for £500.
All have better stabilisation that any full frame camera and also benefit from dual IS making the benefit even more noticable. Only weakness is that I dont like going over iso 3200
M4/3 has some real camera body and lens bargains right now and its a relatively cheap and easy way to satisfy G.A.S
My next target is the Leica 12-60 T2.8-4 for around £350 and to sell off either the g90 or g9.
That sounds great! Yes I've had full MFT kits in the past with a GH5 but for my professional work I couldn't deal without full frame and improved low light in tight situations. I think if I were to do a big trip with only one set up I could consider a G series lumix for a photo and video setup for sure
$200?!? $550 second hand is the best price I could find.
Check eBay and MPB! Since this video UK MPB has been out of stock but odd ones come back
for comparison purposes you shouldnt have said which photo was taken by each camera. Just knowing could cause bias......
Fair point!
It should not be about OR, it should be AND. By both.
That's also an option!
How's the iq for lx ... I have sx740 and it sucs...
The iQ mode you mean? I avoid it!
@@GeorgeHolden no image quality
Ebay prices of lx100 almost at $1000 now.
... they're selling for £200-£250 in the UK
I was like both cameras produce look like crap results… then I noticed I was watching video one 480p lol.
Hahaha then my A7SIII video must have looked like trash too 😅
If you can buy a Lumix for $200, I want ten
Bruh that’s like a $600 camera now 🤣
I have a feeling since my previous video it sold out on MPB UK 😂
Manchester?
No. Leeds. It was the canals that foxed me.
Manchester!
*did used to live in Leeds
No sky.. with lx100
Why do you compare m43 with a full frame cameras instead of Sony apsc models? People all say Sony apsc models are much better than m43. 😂
Those were the cameras I had!
@@GeorgeHolden another would be that Sony apsc is too expensive. You can easily get m43 with stabilization under 200 pounds but Sony a6500 is way much more expensive than that.
I would say the Sony photographs look richer. The Lumix looks a little flat by comparison.
Fair point!
I'm looking 8 months later and the Lumix is no where near $100
The price was more than $100
I was really disappointed that you reneged on your "promise" to compare image quality. Your rationale didn't work for me.
Apologies Alan, I'll take that into account in future 🙏
that lumix costs $900 here, 400 used. lmao
To be fair that's not too bad used, we still get some equivalent to $200 here but they go quick
do not know how u got it for $200 when it retails for 3x that now
Took some hunting! Plus was in bad condition cosmetically
@@GeorgeHolden rip
Cu it's 200 duh....
I hate how you can recommend one camera after another, at prices you just can't find them . THIS IS NOT A 200 pound camera.
Bought for £154*